Episode 152: New Baby Joy, Tick Safety, And A Fresh Chaga Summer Brew

A tiny newborn can turn the strongest routine into a brand-new adventure, and that’s exactly where we start. I sit down with my son Garrett to celebrate the arrival of baby Gritten, unpack the story behind his one-of-a-kind name, and talk honestly about those early weeks that are equal parts joy, exhaustion, and awe. We also get into the parts new parents don’t always expect, like postpartum emotions, why babies seem to have “favourite people,” and how growth percentiles actually work when the doctor says your kid is in the 90th percentile.

From the nursery, we jump straight into the real-world grind of building and maintaining modern life outdoors and in the city. Garrett shares what it’s like working on Toronto LRT construction, why track and tunnel work takes months, and how traffic flow changes the way governments plan roadwork. I also share a couple of practical nuggets, like why road sweepers matter more than most people realise and why summer is such a common season for big construction closures.

Then we head back under the canopy for a topic that’s getting harder to ignore: tick prevention in Ontario. We talk through a DIY tick-control experiment using treated nesting material in toilet paper rolls, what to watch for after a tick bite, and why relying on a bullseye rash can be a mistake. We also touch on emerging tick concerns as climates shift.

We wrap by catching up on Chaga mushroom wellness and what’s new at Chaga Health and Wellness, including Ruby G and other cold brew Chaga tea blends made for summer, plus a clear explanation of why people chase turmeric, how black pepper affects absorption, and why cortisol and sleep keep showing up in adaptogen conversations. If you like practical outdoors talk with real family stories, subscribe, share this with a friend, and leave us a review so more people can find the show.

Transcript

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I'm Jerry Olette, and I was honored to serve as Ontario's Minister of Natural Resources. However, my journey into the woods didn't come from politics. Rather, it came from my time in the bush and a mushroom. In 2015, I was introduced to the birch-hungry fungus known as Chaga, a tree conk with centuries of medicinal applications used by indigenous peoples all over the globe. After nearly a decade of harvest, use testimonials, and research, my skepticism has faded to obsession. And I now spend my life dedicated to improving the lives of others through natural means. But that's not what the show is about. My pursuit is a strange mushroom, and my passion for the outdoors has brought me to the places and around the people that are shaped by our natural world. On Outdoor Journal Radio's Under the Canopy podcast, I'm going to take you along with me to see the places, meet the people, that will help you find your outdoor passion and help you live a life close to nature and under the canopy. So join me today for another great episode, and hopefully, we can inspire a few more people to live their lives under the canopy.

Listener Thanks And Family Update

SPEAKER_12 2:51

Okay, as always, we want to thank all our listeners all across Canada. Uh, through, well, we're getting regular questions from Manitoba, Alberta, all across Ontario, the states, et cetera, et cetera. We appreciate you listeners. You got any questions? Ask them, let us know. We'll see what we can do. Figure them out. Any suggestions for shows? Reach out to us. We'll see what we can do about figuring that out. But we um bringing a regular on to give us a bit of an update on what's going on. First of all, I want to congratulate Garrett, my son Garrett. Congratulations, Garrett, on well, on Gritten, our my new grandson. Congratulations, Garrett.

SPEAKER_03 3:31

Yes, thank you. Uh me and Brittany are really excited, and things have been going very well with that. And uh, thanks for inviting me back on, of course. And yeah, yeah, things are good with Britain. Welcome to the world here in April, and it's been uh for the most part smooth. Obviously, newborns come up with their ups and downs, but I would say we've been on the uh easy side, I guess, so far.

SPEAKER_12 3:58

Yes. Well, you know, it's it's all in the perspective for some people, it may be hard for others, it may be easy. So I'm we're glad we're things going things are going well. So, how did you come up with the name Gritton? And how do you spell Gritten?

SPEAKER_03 4:10

Um, so we spell it G-R-I-T-T-E-N. Right. And we came up with it because Britney's name and my name together the closest name we you know we could think of was Britton.

SPEAKER_12 4:26

Oh yeah. And um never heard of it before, neither have a lot of people, so yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:32

Um it's different. Yeah, when we registered Britton, we actually had the representative call us because they do a follow-up call and things like that, and they said, I've never heard the name Britton, and almost everyone we meet says, Oh, that's a different name, but I like it.

SPEAKER_12 4:47

Yeah, it sounds like an NFL footplayer football player, and he's got the grip. This guy's got the grip.

SPEAKER_03 4:53

I mean, I hope so. Like, it would be nice.

SPEAKER_12 4:56

Yeah, uh, yeah, with some of the names you see in the NFL. It's just like here's here's one of those perfect ones. But you know, I and I often wondered because uh well, Paul Paul Bardy used to work with me when I was a minister and worked in my office as MPP, and and uh I remember his son, I think it was um his firstborn, um Nathan. Uh he said that they uh they were making he'd come home and they were making fun because they had this kid in their class with this really weird name, and his name was Bob. He was just like Bob, and he and I remember Paul saying that he started laughing because he'd never heard a name like that before. But I guess I guess everything's relative. It certainly stands out and it's unique, and uh I imagine everybody will call him Grit later on in life.

SPEAKER_03 5:46

Yeah, grit. Um a lot of my friends call him G-Man.

SPEAKER_12 5:50

G-Man.

SPEAKER_03 5:51

Yeah. Which uh I'm not too sure that's because the the movies he-man's out. They're like, ah, G-Man.

SPEAKER_12 5:59

Oh, and vitamin G. Vitamin G is uh um one of the guys when I was minister used to call himself um vitamin G. Uh beacon, vitamin G. So yeah, so that's uh congratulations and everything's going well. And and Brittly's handling the uh postpartum uh issues uh that that females go through with uh childbirth and things like that, okay?

SPEAKER_03 6:24

Yeah, like for the most part, like obviously there's there's emotions there and there's feelings that come up, and you know, one of the big realizations that I'm sure I mean guys will never really grasp at because it's just something we can't do. But one of the things is, you know, after Gritton's born, you know, Brittany sits there and thinks herself like, I'll never feel and kick me again on the inside. So and it's just one of those things where it's like, yeah, it'll never happen.

SPEAKER_12 6:51

You know, oh, it'll happen. Wait, she'll be lying down and he'll be kicking her in a different way. Oh no, right.

SPEAKER_03 6:56

They've been uh co-sleeping and napping together, and yeah, Gritton, well, you he'll reach over, he'll throw a fist, or you'll throw a kick, and he'll go, Where are you? And whack. Yeah, there you are.

SPEAKER_12 7:06

Okay, I just yeah, I was walking around with him outside, and he's he's now getting the head bop and move and whack me a couple of times with his head right in my lip. So uh starting to move around. So uh it's getting good. Awesome.

SPEAKER_03 7:19

He's growing like a weed, too. You took him for his uh his checkup there, and the doctor's like, yeah, he's uh for what he's at, he's measuring up in the uh 90 percentile for height wise.

SPEAKER_12 7:30

So you'll be uh he'll be tall. What does that mean? What does that mean at 90 percent? I mean, when when when you guys were born, uh Garrett and your brother Josh, it was like we never went through all this kind of stuff, so we're hearing these different things now. And 90 percentile in height. What what what does that mean?

SPEAKER_03 7:47

So I don't know if they still did it back in college and you know, years back, but um it's a bell curve what they do. So what they'll do is they'll have 50% being at the top of the bell, and then 90 and then zero being at the bottom of the bell.

SPEAKER_12 8:04

Right.

SPEAKER_03 8:05

So they expect the average in college, for example, when most of the time they do their marking and they just bell curve it and go, yeah, this is where everyone is, that's what it is. You're 50 percentile, which is in the world of babies, 50 percentile is ideal, which means you are right where you should be, you're the average height or weight or growth, wherever they're tracking there, and you're consistent with everyone else in the world. And then if you're at 90 percentile, it means you're either overweight or you're taller, or you're you know, you're growing at a rapid rate higher than a lot of other babies.

SPEAKER_12 8:41

Right.

SPEAKER_03 8:42

And then if you say if you're at like 10 or 15 percent, it means oh, you're not developing enough, or you're you know, too thin, you're not growing quick enough, kind of thing. So let's say, oh, you're measuring at 15%, we want to get your numbers up, and that's all they'll track it. So being at 90 isn't necessarily a bad thing, it just means you are above the average.

SPEAKER_12 9:04

Okay, so chubby cheeks is not a bad thing. No, um they call him the little hobbit. The little hobbit. The little hobbit.

SPEAKER_03 9:15

He likes uh kicking his toes out.

SPEAKER_12 9:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:18

Every time you sit there and like we take him a bath and he'll say, Toes, and he just puts both feet out like toes. Um but yeah, um, he's he's been doing good.

SPEAKER_12 9:30

So I've been talking with Brittany. Now my nephew Addison, their kids, when they were I don't know, it must have been six months old, I guess, when I'm seeing them, they taught the kids how to baby sign language for babies. Yeah. And I I was just I I was shocked. So the mother would say, Are you hungry? And they she would do these sign languages, and the the baby's too young to talk, so six months old, and responded with, Yes, I'm hungry. Do you want milk? Uh yes or no, you had enough? And the baby would answer and sign. And I'm like, This is amazing. Like, how did they do this? So Angie uh, who's uh the market kind of the um I don't know, she's close to a market manager in Lindsay. Um, she does signing at the school, and that's what she does. And I was talking to her about it. She says, Yeah, yeah, there's all kind of uh baby sign is uh pretty common now. And I'm like, what? I'd never heard of that before. So they teach babies to sign language at a very young age, and apparently they start at like three months old. And so there's a few that I started with them already, like just you kind of clinch your fingers together and then touch your mouth, which is um, I'm not sure if that's hungry or food, but uh so there's like there's a couple things there that you come across on.

SPEAKER_03 10:50

So it's like, you know, if you're gonna grab a bunch of grapes and you were gonna hold it over, kind of thing, and feed yourself like from the vine and just going down, that grip that you would create there, if you put both hands in that position, you go together, that's more. Yes. That's one of the ones I learned.

SPEAKER_12 11:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:08

And take that same hand with just one and put it to your mouth, that means hungry or feed me kind of thing.

SPEAKER_04 11:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:14

Um, and the other ones I haven't really picked up on yet, because I just haven't seen it because you know, in today's, I guess, generations of raising kids, the amount of stuff we've had is apparently astronomical and just never even thought of.

SPEAKER_04 11:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:29

Because well, we were telling um one of the birthing nurses there that there's a thing called uh a baby breza. I'm like, what's a baby breza? And like, you know, the quick way of explaining it, it's a cappuccino maker for babies.

SPEAKER_12 11:45

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:46

So it's you know, you you put your bottle underneath and it'll say, I want five ounces, and it'll bring you to the the temperature needed, it'll portion out the uh formula needed, and push a button, and it's like 30 seconds later and it's done. So, and before you'd have to like get your get the thing out, warm the water up, the temperature, then measure it out, then you have to shake it, and you also have to like sterilize all your bottles, things that and like so we have a sterilizer here, and then it's just everything's not working out really good.

SPEAKER_12 12:16

Yeah, so yeah, so and the stuff I see and everything else is like, oh my lord, you guys got the stuff they got the the the like that thing there was that it shakes a little bit to have them fall asleep, or or white noise stuff and all this kind of stuff. Where uh I I remember one girl that uh had a baby girl and uh a mom. She used to work for mom in the shoe store. And anyways, uh um the baby was crying, and mom went to pick up the baby after she went to visit her, and she says, Don't pick up that baby, and I'm like, What? And she mom was like, What? She says, Yeah, if you pick the baby up, then it'll get used to you picking up every time you cry. And I like never heard of that before. But everybody handles things different, and it's all taught and what they're bought down, what people pass on from different areas.

SPEAKER_03 13:05

Like, I say there's some merit to that, but at the same time, it's you know, they're crying for reasons. And I understand the concept because especially going through it now, it's like, well, with Britton, you go through the checklist. It's like, okay, he's crying, okay. Is he hungry? Try and feed him. No. Okay, is he got is he gassy? Do I got a burp? Boom. You know, might maybe get a burp or not? No. Is he just uncomfortable? Straper change, cyper change, you know, anything like that. No. With Britton, though, he is a nature boy.

SPEAKER_12 13:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:36

And he just wants to see the trees.

SPEAKER_12 13:38

Yeah. So, oh, no, no, no. What what happens as soon as he goes to one person, he starts crying all the time.

SPEAKER_03 13:45

Well, yeah, that's number two right now. Mom's number one. So every time I will, I'll go through the checklist and I'll go, I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. And I will give them to mom, and mom will hold them in the exact same position that I had him in, and he'll just start laughing at. He'll like do like a crying kind of laugh, and like, ha ha, I got that. I got I got one on you.

SPEAKER_12 14:06

I got you. Who's training who here? Yeah. And then no, no, no, no, no. Every time he goes to grandpa, oh, give him to me, and all of a sudden he stops crying.

unknown 14:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 14:16

I have good luck like that, but but uh uh, anyways, it's uh uh it it's certainly a blessing, and uh you're truly blessed to have a little one around. It's a gift from God, and you uh certainly need to treat it uh with him with with all the specials uh aspects that are deserving of a newborn.

SPEAKER_03 14:37

Yeah, absolutely. And you know, it's something that I'm very excited about, very humbled to have, as you know, me and Brittany were told that you know I was presented with information that we could never have kids, and so here we are. Surprise, surprise. Surprise, surprise. So it was one of those things where it's like, yeah, you wouldn't, you know, which is a little bit upsetting knowing that you couldn't have kids. It's something you'd always want one day.

SPEAKER_12 15:02

It's like Uncle Ernie and Aunt Marion were always told they could never have kids seven kids later. Yeah, you know, there was no, you'll never be able to have kids, and then surprise, surprise. Uh so yeah, well, it's he's truly a blessing, and and we love him dearly. Yeah. So you're through the first part. I kind of let you uh off a little bit, but uh congratulations again.

Building Toronto Transit And Traffic

SPEAKER_12 15:25

And you just started back to work uh a couple of days ago, really.

SPEAKER_03 15:28

Yep. So I'm uh working close to you know stomping ground areas, which is back uh home in Ontario here.

SPEAKER_12 15:36

Um you're saying you're back to your stomping grounds while you were in, let me see, you were in BC, Saskatchewan, Alberta. Now you're back home in Ontario. Where are you working in Ontario?

SPEAKER_03 15:48

So I was uh working on the LRT line. So what? LRT, so light rail trail uh line. Transit. Or transit, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 15:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:58

And um where in Ottawa? No, in in Toronto. Okay, Toronto. Okay. And uh I did the Eglinton line, the first portion of it, and it was just quite the job. Yeah. There's people don't realize there's a lot to it. So they've got tunnels there as well, and for them to do the tunnels, it's like you have to put in so much steel, you have to like do so much testing and so much time-consuming stuff, but it's a very long process to do.

SPEAKER_12 16:25

There's a lot of ways, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:26

Yeah, for example, I was on the track line itself, and it was 18 kilometers of track. So every day, you know, we were trying to get, I think we were getting them, yeah. Well, 18 kilometers times four, because there's four lines and some 72.

SPEAKER_12 16:44

72 kilometers?

SPEAKER_03 16:45

Yeah, so 72 kilometers of track.

SPEAKER_12 16:47

Now, is that 18 kilometers and there's what there's four four lines on the under that 18 kilometers, or is it what? So 14 is it four separate lines?

SPEAKER_03 16:56

There's two main lines, but then they have all the switch lines and connection lines, right? So it may not have been 72 because it will most of the time it's one and one.

SPEAKER_12 17:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:08

But then they have all the connection links, which is times four, and all those collection links we were doing, we were focusing on the main part of those. Right. And each connection link is you know half a kilometer long. Yeah. And there's like four or five.

SPEAKER_12 17:22

Connection link, okay.

SPEAKER_03 17:23

So there we were doing it took us, I think, I think it took us like five months to just track every day.

SPEAKER_12 17:30

So I I recall when I was in the Ministry of Transportation, the junior minister, the company who built the um the tunnel, what do they call it? The channel under it goes from France to England.

SPEAKER_03 17:42

Oh, the tube, I think they call it?

SPEAKER_12 17:44

No, the tube is actually what they call the subway in in England. Okay. So this was, I think it's called the Chunnel. Like because it goes under the English Channel.

SPEAKER_03 17:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 17:54

Um they came across and did a sales pitch us to uh get rid of in Toronto, they have this elevated um kind of highway above uh one of the lake shore, it's called. And it they wanted to go underground underneath it to do the same thing and put it underground in order to because the gardener, the supports for the gardener, you go under there and look and is your pieces falling off that sucker now because it's been around so long.

SPEAKER_03 18:21

Oh well, I mean, because I've been the train you see, like that's exposed rebar there. Like you shouldn't be really seeing that. Mind you, like they build things here like a hundred times the necessary capacity.

SPEAKER_12 18:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:33

So it's not the worst, but it just doesn't look the greatest.

SPEAKER_12 18:37

No, no, but still, and you wonder how how long it's gonna last, and especially after you know, things like just happened in Venezuela. Well but but they take all that earthquake stuff into consideration and they build all this stuff here to the very high standard to make sure that we don't have the the problems and the collapses that they had. Mind you, uh because we've had a few really minor earthquakes around.

SPEAKER_03 19:00

Yeah, well, one of the biggest areas is actually in Vancouver. Vancouver on the island, they have to build things like crazy standards because they're on I believe they're on a fault line, they call it there, or they're on two plates.

SPEAKER_12 19:14

Right.

SPEAKER_03 19:15

So there's like the upper plate and lower plate, and then the fault line.

SPEAKER_12 19:18

Yeah, fault line.

SPEAKER_03 19:19

And so they have to build things like ridiculously there for earthquake or seismic activity, right? And um I get it, like don't be wrong, I get it. But yeah, in Toronto though, like the only thing that they didn't quite fully master say in when they built this project here, right, is what to do with all the rain and all the snow that comes off the fridge because there's nowhere for it to go. Right. If it goes and it goes straight down, yeah, all the supports. Yeah, there's no and it's especially because there's no trawls in all their city, yeah. Like they didn't build it at the time being futuristic designs.

SPEAKER_12 19:58

Yep. I remember back, I think it was in the 80s, um Verne, Vern, uh friend of mine, Vern and Pat were working the Toronto Sportsman show, and they had a big heavy-duty snow. And a plow went by on the um on the gardener, and the plow just plowed all of it right over the edge and took out all the windshields and all the cars down at the Toronto, uh Toronto Sportsman Show at the Canadian National Exhibition Center. And they're looking there, and all of a sudden they had to phone the city of Toronto because I guess I had a new driver there. And like you said, that they had no place to put the snow. And this guy was just plowing it over the edge, and it was wiping out the windshields and all the cars and his truck, and on and on and on. And it was quite something. I guess they're standing there watching the snow going over. Oh no.

SPEAKER_03 20:46

Yeah, it's kind of like uh pick your poison. It's either you know, I leave on the highway and the cars are slipping over. Well, yeah, you push it over so these people can drive.

SPEAKER_12 20:56

Well, I think I think what they do now is they they move it to one side. So there's uh most of the sections are three lanes. So you go down to two lanes and then you do a fast extraction.

SPEAKER_03 21:06

Yeah, they they've they've figured it out now, especially like I would say in Ontario we do a very good job of summer mills. Well, southern Ontario for that matter. Because when I'm out in Calgary, it's like you guys don't plow snow out there. Well, you except that you question yourself. Like, I go to work and it's like, yes, the concept is it's you know, minus 10 in the morning, and there's maybe half a foot of snow or four or five inches enough to make it slick.

SPEAKER_04 21:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:32

But by the time you go home, it's plus 20 and it's all gone. Yeah. So it's like, wow, why would we plow? Just wait it out.

SPEAKER_12 21:38

Well, it it's just like uh when when I picked you up when we did that marathon run to bring it back onto Ontario. We, you know, no snow in Alberta, no snow in Saskatchewan, a little bit in Manitoba. And then um when you came into Ontario, you know, with Fort Francis, North, uh, it was a little bit there, but nothing even to even mention. I like a uh the scatter. And they hit east of Thunder Bay, and then we hit Wawa, and the snow is filled with the hydro wires.

SPEAKER_03 22:05

Oh, you sit there and you're saying to yourself, it's like, huh, spring. Yeah. You know, golf out here out west. And then you come back in Ontario and you're like, okay, well, it's the Canadian Shield. There's more trees and more thickness to it. So like I expect more snow to stick around.

SPEAKER_12 22:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:19

And then it's but it's like, you know, on in Kenora, you're looking at the waterways and the ice melting out. And you know, streets are nice. And kids are playing on grass. Like you can see grass.

SPEAKER_12 22:29

Deer everywhere. Yeah, deer in Francis, and then you know, and all along there.

SPEAKER_02 22:33

And it gets a wall, and you're like, what the heck happened here?

SPEAKER_12 22:37

Yeah, the snow was still to the hydrawires, and the snow was so bad that the highway going through there. If you broke down, you couldn't pull off because the snowbank was right to the edge of the white line.

SPEAKER_03 22:53

No, and if you even if you could pull off the kind of clear lanes, it's like it's so thick with snow that you're like, you couldn't do anything. You couldn't do it. You wouldn't do it. You wouldn't want to do it. You wouldn't even be like, you'd you would drive on, say, if you're had a flat tire and it completely blew off something and down to the rim, you'd be like, you'd be better off driving on your rim until you saw the little dugout spot they did for turnaround points or whatever.

SPEAKER_12 23:15

Yeah, for the plows.

SPEAKER_03 23:16

Yeah. Like that. And you'd be better off driving on a metal rim rather than pulling over.

SPEAKER_12 23:21

Because, yeah, because we were basically white out conditions.

SPEAKER_03 23:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 23:24

And hitting Wawa, and here there's no snow in Alberta, no snow in Saskatchewan, a little bit, but not much in Manitoba, and then not there. Like, what happened to Wawa? Wow.

SPEAKER_03 23:33

Yeah, hopefully, Mama and Brittany don't hear this podcast though.

SPEAKER_12 23:36

Oh, that's okay. Yeah. Well, and I know a lot of guys, when they head up to um um they they go Thunder Bay Way, a lot of them don't take that um Sault Ste. Marie Wawa. They go up through uh Timmins and Hearst along the top for that very reason because there's no hills there, like comparatively speaking, it's all way flatter, and you don't get that Lake of Flex snow.

SPEAKER_03 24:00

Yeah. I mean, mind you, if you're really in the summertime, I would say I'd probably recommend the lakeside one. Yeah. Because it's like scenic. If you like scenic, you like the mountains, you like a nice, like the classic Canadian commercial driving through the countryside, like you're like, oh, this is great. Yeah. But I'll just you know, have a nice day.

SPEAKER_12 24:17

Yeah. But the the the guys that I knew, uh didn't matter if it was Peter or uh quite a few others, they all would take it. I think they said it was it was like $200, 200 kilometers farther to do it, but a lot safer just for driving sakes, if I remember correctly.

SPEAKER_03 24:36

Yeah, and when you put 200 kilometers in perspective of driving, it's you know, I'm glorified two hours and a half.

SPEAKER_12 24:42

Yeah. So yeah, so but for safety sakes, yeah. They so they go up along through uh Hearst, Kappa Scasing, uh Iroquois Falls, down through Timmins, and then along, and they miss all that snow. But yeah. So you're out working in Toronto, you're working on the uh light uh rapid transit system there, the LRT system. Yeah, and it's like what down the D down Valley Parkway, down that way?

SPEAKER_03 25:06

Yeah, so right across on Eglinton there, they're doing expansion line. So they're going through over like the DVP in the valley there, and there's a couple tunnels going in as well. I don't know how long the expansion is, but it's about I think it's gonna take them they aim for five years.

SPEAKER_12 25:24

Right.

SPEAKER_03 25:25

Five sorry, five years left of work. Um I know just for my field of work, they're gonna have at least five years because it's it's bridges, and you know, most higher workers, especially older guys, they say, I hate bridges, and thank god I don't do anymore.

SPEAKER_12 25:42

Yeah. Well, I I recall Steve Gilchrist was the uh MPP for uh I can't remember uh one of the Scarborough ridings. And uh when I was a junior minister for transportation, there was a bridge going over the 401, and they had a lot of the lanes who was slowed it down considerably. You know, and during the construction of it, it slows it down. But once it opens and gets going, it increases the traffic flow and reduces a lot of time. So you you suffer for the periods of time when when the construction's going on for reduced lanes and and slowing it down, but at the once it goes through, uh it it decreases the amount of time and increases uh the portability or the the movement of goods through transportation systems.

SPEAKER_03 26:32

Oh, absolutely. Well, I can even speak from experience because when I did the first expansion or the first, I guess, real start of the Edmonton line, um, yeah, they were taken down to one lane multiple time, and traffic was always bumper-a-bumper there. And yeah, and we finished it, and then I went out west and came back three years later after it's all been processed and smooth and all the construction equipment broke on, and they're like hardly any traffic anymore.

SPEAKER_04 26:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:55

And it's like, yeah, it takes a bit to suffer through it because it's just a lot going on. But you know, three years you kind of blink and you're like, you miss it.

SPEAKER_12 27:07

So here's here's a a a statistic that was quite surprising to me. That there were sections of the 401 in the Toronto area where over a hundred thousand vehicles an hour go over that. The 401 in those areas is operating at a hundred times its design capacity. They had no idea that it was going to be able to handle those kind of manage that kind of traffic flow.

SPEAKER_03 27:34

Oh. And people are astonished, especially when, you know, being from Ontario and driving Toronto, I say, hey, there's like, yeah, some of the stretches of highway have like, you know, 12 lanes of traffic. Yeah. Or even I think it might be even 14 lanes of traffic. Yeah. They're like, 14 lanes of traffic and still bump from up there? Absolutely not. That's insane. And and mind you, people like out west, sometimes they'll complain about you know being in traffic for half an hour. Yeah. But you know, in half an hour though, you still moved about, you know, at least 40 kilometers or 50 kilometers of road. Yeah. In Toronto, you might have moved three blocks.

SPEAKER_12 28:08

Well, I I recall Pierre, and I've had Pierre on, uh, he's from Up Timmins Way. When he worked with me with the ministry uh when I was minister, and Pierre is uh from just outside of Timmins. And one of the fixed things that is uh when he first started, he said, Jerry, we we need to spend more on roads in northern Ontario. I said, Oh, okay, come on down. After a month with him working with me at uh Queen's Park in Toronto, I I recalled that and I said, Well, Pierre, now you've had a taste of it, where do we spend the money on roads in Northern Ontario or Southern Ontario? And he says, I can't believe this. You didn't spend them in Southern Ontario. It's unbelievable down here. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So he gained a different perspective. And I recall now your grandfather, my father was uh chief of police in Thunder Bay for quite a few years. And I was up at an event in Thunder Bay, and there were all these uh doctors and lawyers and professors from university at this event there, and they were all talking about what we just talked about, the gardener expressway. They said, and you can't believe this. They don't even have on this gardener, they don't have if your car breaks down, you can't pull over on the side. You know, and I'm looking and go, these guys don't understand at all. They have no idea. So, how often do you see a car broken down where you can utilize that to move masses of amounts of traffic? And if a car is going to break down, guess what? You end up tying it up until a tow truck gets there, which is pretty quick now. You see all these tow trucks lined up on the road.

SPEAKER_03 29:33

Yeah, it's not as bad as when I first started driving a drone myself.

SPEAKER_12 29:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:38

Quite often you'll see them parked on the spots ready to go. And it happens, I get it.

SPEAKER_12 29:43

Yeah.

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Chaga Cream Eczema Story

SPEAKER_12 31:07

Okay, we're here in Lindsay with Sue. Sue, you've got a little bit of a story to tell us about the Chaga cream. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 31:13

I do. I absolutely love the Chaga cream. I ran out of it over the winter when I was away. And I've had a biggest break of eczema, and all the creams that the doctors have given me have done nothing. I started using this last Saturday, I got it from you at the market, and it's gone. Gone in in what a week? In a week. And my daughter has had has two little pups to whose ears have very long ears and they crack. Right. Every month she's at the vet's getting creams. Yep. And last year I told her about this. She used it on the dogs for a week. They have no problems anymore. And she told her vet he's using it too. Oh, well, that's great too. Oh, it is an awesome product. I highly recommend it.

SPEAKER_12 31:53

Thank you very much, too. We really appreciate that. Have a great day. Thank you.

Chaga Discount Code Offer

SPEAKER_12 32:03

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Why Roads Get Cleaned

SPEAKER_12 32:59

Yeah, so we get traffic flows in a lot of different areas, and traffic is is hard to understand. So some other useless information. You know, the Cliff Claven of information here. Uh, for you wouldn't even know who Cliff Claven is, do you?

SPEAKER_03 33:12

Not a clue.

SPEAKER_12 33:14

Okay. Well, hopefully the audience knows who Cliff Clavin is. Um so did you do you know why they take those road cleaners and they have all these brushes and stuff, and they drive down the road and clean all the roads. Do you know why?

SPEAKER_03 33:29

I mean, I know why.

SPEAKER_12 33:30

Okay. I told you why.

SPEAKER_03 33:32

Well, you told me why, but I also kind of figure it out myself sometimes. It's just Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 33:36

So what happens is when you get the sand and grit on the road, it works like sandpaper on the road and starts to wear it down. So the cleaners come down to give longevity to the roads, and they wash all that sand and grit off because when cars drive over it, they kind of put a little bit of wear with the gravel that's on there or the sand that's on there. And it just wears it down very minimally, but it still wears it down. And you get 100,000 vehicles an hour going over of a section of road, you can wear off pretty quick.

SPEAKER_03 34:08

Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_12 34:09

So yeah, that's why they wash it all and wash all this stuff with fire, is to get it off so the roads don't last.

SPEAKER_03 34:14

Yep.

SPEAKER_12 34:14

Yeah. So yeah, so that that's one of the key things. Now, another useless piece of information. Do you know why construction, a lot of construction takes place in the summertime?

SPEAKER_03 34:26

I mean, I understand the concept of it, but what does that mean?

SPEAKER_12 34:30

I'd question that a little bit. That's because traffic flows are usually 10% less in the summertime than they are the rest of the year because of summer holidays.

SPEAKER_03 34:38

Well, I understand that. But the only thing is I question it though. There's been quite a big increase now that kind of COVID's over of snowbirds happening now. Well, I mean, I got like I got work still going on most of the time summer, people are taking their vacations because the kids are off school and it's easier for them.

SPEAKER_12 34:55

Exactly. So uh there's statistically speaking, 10% less traffic flows in the summertime than in the uh spring, fall, and winter.

SPEAKER_03 35:03

Yeah, and I've had personal experience with that, especially when you go and try to get through on during uh either drop-off time or pickup time for when the kids get out of school.

SPEAKER_12 35:12

Yeah, yeah. So, but yeah, so uh there there is some stuff that uh we uh we certainly enjoy, and and uh Gritten's uh uh a great benefit and pleasure to be around.

Tick Control With Toilet Rolls

SPEAKER_03 35:27

So yeah, you know one thing I I gotta I gotta bring up because I know we're here and we're doing stuff, but one thing I've noticed what is with all the toilet paper rolls being saved? Like I I mean it's summertime, so I'm like in my head, I'm like, well, we're not saving them for kindling your fire stars anymore.

SPEAKER_12 35:46

Yeah, well, that because in the wintertime, and and that's what we're doing is cutting and splitting a hole in wood, and I did a a truckload again today. I didn't split it, I split some until I got tired because it was it was I don't know, it was about uh what 32, 34 out there Celsius. But uh, anyways, um so the toilet paper rolls are a little bit different. So what happens is uh ticks, the number one and the number the number one and two carriers of ticks are deer and mice. Okay, and they move ticks around. So what happens is mice actually um will use uh dryer lint and dog hair to make their nests with. Okay. So what I do is I'm trying an experiment. I saw this uh and I thought it would be interesting to try. So I save the toilet paper rolls, and then I've got some permetharin, which is uh kills ticks. And what you do is you spray the dryer lint and the dog hair and from vacuuming it up, and and Gunner, everybody knows Gunner, and and boy, does he love his massages lately. Oh, yeah, he does. Oh, yeah. As soon as that massage thing goes, he comes running to get his and just looks at you, and then as soon as you start putting on his back, his eyes kind of roll back. He's just like, oh, is that ever good? Anyways, so I take all the dog hair from the vacuum cleaner. The I have a Dyson cleaner that I use and get the dog hair, and then I spray it with the permithrin, and then you stuff it inside the toilet paper roll. And then you put these through the woods, and mice will go into the toilet paper roll, will take out the hair and the lint and make their nests from it, because it's a preferred material that they use to make nests with.

SPEAKER_04 37:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 37:30

But any ticks that are on the mice will actually be killed by the permitherin on the uh lint and the dog hair. So the toilet paper rolls concentrate it, so the mice go in, take it out, and the rain doesn't wash it quite away, and it lasts about uh six weeks. So there are areas that the city are listing as uh high concentrations of ticks, and I'm seeing if I can reduce the number of ticks in those areas by spraying uh the lint and the dog hair with permitterin and uh what's it called? Dr. Doom. And there's three grades there's uh 0.25%, 0.35%, and 0.5%. I use the 0.5% as the test, and I'm using those toilet paper rolls for that reason. And I need enough of them at one time to be able to do a large, because if I only do one at a time, you're not gonna see much. But if I do a whole section, I should be able to uh and I probably have 20 or 30 now that I should be able to use.

SPEAKER_03 38:30

Yeah, you know, yeah. If I understand the concept, it's like, yeah, I you know, especially when you go to the cars, you're always chewing out the toilet paper and stuff like that. And um you're just telling me I need to use the wash for home more and let that work.

SPEAKER_12 38:43

No, you can use their water, let'd be flushing uh there because the price that the city charges us for waters or the region charges us for water is ridiculous. Yeah, I can understand that. But um, yeah, so I save them and that's why. And I use toilet paper rolls, but you can use paper towel rolls or anything like that. And quite frankly, the the weather will eventually break them down and it'll just go naturally in the environment, so you're not really polluting anything.

SPEAKER_03 39:08

Yeah. Oh, that's good to know. And I and again, just because I've actually been bitten by a tick several times now.

SPEAKER_12 39:15

Well, the last time we were out, we were doing wood. You didn't want to be sprayed.

SPEAKER_02 39:19

I was like, yeah, it's fine.

SPEAKER_03 39:21

We're just cutting wood. I'm not really walking through the fields or anything. And sure enough, you know, go jump in the shower. Oh, look, there's a tick on my shin.

SPEAKER_12 39:29

Yeah, exactly. And I was out doing it again today. But and I've tried something with Gunner now. Uh, of course, look, uh, I did a podcast and I mentioned this. I'll mention this again. I give uh this chewable material that uh I don't like doing it. And we did the podcast with the naturopathic vet. Gunner gets his medicinal mushrooms to boost his immune system, but I still like I don't want anything to happen to him. And so I don't want to take the I don't want to take uh take any precaution, I take every precaution that I can. Okay. So I give him these uh chewable monthly things like the vets charge us like $46 a month. And I get them from Australia now and for six months was sixty dollars instead of forty-six dollars for one month.

SPEAKER_04 40:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 40:17

So but I also sprayed uh Gunner today with a uh I have a one of the people that shows up at the Halliburton one has a natural uh spray that keeps the ticks off. Just because you give them the material, okay, the way it works is the tick has to bite the dog and then it dies. Normally I would spray Gunner with the same thing with uh uh same thing I sprayed myself with today is uh a d and then I wash it off at the end. But today I tried something a little bit different. I sprayed them with this natural material, it's uh natural repellent, and I've had a lot of individuals very say that it's worked very effectively, but short term. So if you're going for a couple of hours, it works great. Uh, but uh the uh in in repelling the ticks, so it keeps them off from the completely for that period of time.

SPEAKER_03 41:06

Yeah, that's good to know. And and the other thing I would say too, just add a little bit of information there for people that are concerned about it. You know, I've been bit several times and you go to the doctors, and I mean I'm not a doctor myself, so I can't give medical advice. But the doctors told me is that if you notice a tick has bitten you, and you notice it before like a 24-hour mark, that could be a window of how long it's been on your cell for. If it's taken off before 24 hours, you don't have to worry about Lyme disease because it hasn't released whatever into your system yet to cause it.

SPEAKER_04 41:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:40

So if you notice it, say you go out that night, you drop in the shower and you see something there or whatever, you wake up. If you wake up, I mean I would go and check it because it's still something very new. But yeah, if you know you're under 24 hours, it's not a huge concern.

SPEAKER_12 41:56

So, and there were some things now. Um, there was Megan from the uh the uh Halliburton uh Department of Health that was telling me that if you get a tick bite, it doesn't necessarily have to have a bullseye to be one of the bad ones. Because there's a large percentage of tick bites that do not have that bullseye indicator that everybody's looking for as being, okay, that one's a bad one.

SPEAKER_04 42:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 42:21

Um, and I'm trying to get an infectious disease expert on. I've spoken to the staff people there, I'm waiting to hear back from them to talk about this. But yeah, there's there's a new tick out there is now it's a what is it, a lone star tick, I think that it texts that that uh it's making its way up, but it can't take the cold. And this one, if people get by bit by this tick, they become allergic to red meat and very violently and could die from eating red meat if they got bit by this tick. Yeah. But it can't take the cold, so it's not lasting up here. But guess what? With uh uh climate change and everything that's going on, uh, they may be adapting to Ontario's weather, and it could be something to be concerned with. So I am trying to get some people on there, but yes, you need to watch out, and then so I had Gunner out with uh uh a new spray for uh ticks with him.

SPEAKER_03 43:13

Yeah, I guess I just good enough sharing some information. Anyways, though, something I've always wanted to talk about again, because we always seem to talk about everything but what kind of started us in this thing is Chaga.

New Chaga Teas For Summer

SPEAKER_12 43:25

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:25

Because I've I've been away. Yeah, and I've I come back and I do what I can and help out and with harvest and picture stuff like that. But one thing I've noticed now is that you've got a different process going on for Chaga.

SPEAKER_12 43:36

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:37

And I've noticed you've brought out a couple of lines of Chaga. Yep. Especially one that I've noticed in particular because it was uh named after someone very special to me.

SPEAKER_12 43:46

So Ruby G? Ruby G. Yeah, it's a brand new one. We we just released it. We released it at Belleville at the uh downtown at dusk event. We got a retailer down, uh Happy Buddha down in Belleville. That's He's the only retailer that's got it right now. And I people know, or the regular listeners know we worked with John Snell, the international tea expert, and we're using a German teabag, so it's a much better quality teabag. It permeates better. And guess what? We don't uh it composts a lot far better than the other ones. We had really problems with the Chinese teabags that we're using before. We wouldn't get what I'd ordered, and then I'd fight with them to get that. And I've got tens of thousands of uh teabags sitting there that I can't use. Too large, wrong colors, and on and on and on. So we've gone with John and we're using a far better German teabag. The only difference is that these teasy bags aren't the same size as the old one, so we can't load them up as much. But what we did was uh a lot of the teas had 10 tea bags in the package. Now they have 15 to compensate for the smaller size. But the other thing is uh with John, we've been able to work out and we've got this new one. Well, a couple of brand new ones that were released at uh in Belleville. Uh the Ruby G, which is hibiscus, chaga, of course, red beet, uh, chicory root, and lemon extract.

SPEAKER_03 45:12

Yeah, actually, that one, you know, I was talking to the guys at work about it, and uh had a couple guys there. They're like, I'm looking for a summer drink because they're starting to get healthy, and everyone's talking about you know gardening and being more you know natural stuff because everyone's getting really concerned with all the things that are going on in the world and chemicals and sprays and whatnot. And so when I brought like, hey, you know, this is Ruby G wine we made, yeah, and um I was like, I don't know how else to explain it, but if you've ever had a Starbucks pink drink, yeah, which is kind of more or less like it's a flavored sugary drink, and you can taste the sugar and you're like, this is very sweet. But the wine we made and you had the sample there, you and you drink it cold, which is great, you're like, it almost tastes like you added sugar.

SPEAKER_12 45:56

No sugar, no sweeteners, no nothing, all natural. Yeah, no sugar uh theirs at all, which is great. And uh it's it's uh John wanted to call it uh passion berry because uh that's what it uh kind of emulates. I guess some other ones have some Passion Berry. We call it Ruby G because it comes out like a ruby in color and is really impressive, and it's outselling everything about uh uh four or five to one now.

SPEAKER_03 46:20

Yeah, and and to me, it's it's just that's like summer flavor drink. And you know, people know me, and I've always drank like four things. I drank milk as a kid and water and gay grade and apple juice or apple juice. Yeah, that was pretty much it. Yeah, never had coffee, never had pop. And now that I'm getting a little bit older, you know, water I'd still mainly focus on, but it's nice to have a little bit of a flavor. And the Ruby G, yeah, it's quite a good taste. It's very sweet enough, but it's not sugary.

SPEAKER_12 46:54

Yeah, and the hibiscus has uh quite a bit of um medicinal applications to it as well. And so does the red beet. Now, red beet helps with uh uh liver issues as well, and uh the the beets are known for a lot of intestinal issues, and the hibiscus has some anti-inflammatory uh materials and flavonoids in it, which help with a lot of different things and doing stuff like regulating uh cortisol and stuff.

SPEAKER_03 47:18

Okay, so so you mentioned cortisol there.

SPEAKER_12 47:21

Cortisol? Yeah, cortisol is the um uh the kind of like the um it's the fight or flight aspect that people get. And we get uh higher levels of uh cortisol in people who are having trouble sleeping. Um the more research I'm doing, the more I'm finding that uh actually uh Chaga uh works with uh extensively with cortisol in in doing a lot of different things that benefit a lot of people. Um and cortisol, uh Chaga actually helps regulate the production of cortisol. Um which so mum, for example, if people have trouble sleeping, they could have elevated cortisol levels in their system, which makes it difficult for sleeping. So Chaga works as a um what's it called, an adaptogen to help the body manage uh the the uh mental stress and helps regulate a lot of the uh that aspect. Um so it helps regulate the production of cortisol. Primarily it's just the stress hormone. So um cortisol is one of the big things that people need to to kind of watch out for. And I think mom has it, but uh, you know, if if we advise anything to mom, it's like in one ear and out the other. Mind you, it was funny the other day, um, I came home from the market and there was a a woman showed up. She says, uh, and it was on last week's the testimonial on last week's podcast. And I played it for mom, and she says, I want that tea right now because mom thinks she's getting arthritis. So uh it uh um so she wanted the uh turmeric ginger black pepper and chaga. But this cold brew, and we we developed uh the Ruby G as a cold brew, um, along with uh another one as well, which uh we just called it a green cold brew, which is green tea, of course, chag, all our stuff has chag in it, matcha, and um lemon extract in it as well. Yeah, so those are the two new ones for uh summer cold drinks, and they're very, very popular.

SPEAKER_03 49:30

Yeah, I I would say so. I was helping out just the other day, and uh yeah, people were trying to have a cold brew tea.

SPEAKER_02 49:39

Yeah, and they were like, Oh, I'd like to try it. Yeah, I try it, they're like, Oh, that one's really good.

SPEAKER_12 49:44

Yeah. It's like uh um now we didn't give you this when we were kids. When I was a kid, I was always uh the the say it's the saying was Kool-Aid, Kool-Aid tastes great. Wish I had some, can't wait. And there was that kind of flavor like that, but it was like one cup of water and one cup of sugar with Kool-Aid. Wow. So we were overloaded with sugar when we were a kid, and everybody drank it, but uh this stuff is like drinking Kool-Aid for a lot of kids, and the kids love it too, but it's beneficial to people.

SPEAKER_03 50:14

Yeah, like it's just sweet enough that it's not sugary. Yeah, there's no sugar because I mean, I don't like the sugary drinks. A lot of people are getting rid of the sugary drinks.

SPEAKER_04 50:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:22

They're like, I like just give me a natural flavor, give me a touch of sweetness, so like it just takes out that bitter or chartness, and that's it.

SPEAKER_12 50:29

Yeah. Well, and and John, you know, the T expert, like he explains that uh 80% of all drinks around the world are cold drinks, whether it's like you talk about your apple juice, your water, um, and your uh what were the other milk, those are all cold drinks. You know, really you didn't have a lot of hot drinks, and 80% of all drinks were cold. And a lot of people go buy this bottle of tea and pay, I don't know, five, six bucks in the store for it.

SPEAKER_04 50:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 50:56

Where one tea bag, you can make 15 of those, the same equivalent with a bag of this stuff, and it's way better for you because there's no additives, there's nothing there, and it's all certified organic. Yep. So that's uh the two new blends. Plus, the uh the the sportsman show in Toronto. Um, we released the uh turmeric ginger black pepper, which a lot of people are very much enjoying as well. And they can all be done uh drank cold as well. But the the Ruby G and the new green cold brew were specifically designed for the summertime for cold drinks. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 51:30

Just to touch on it because like the turmeric one's new to me. Yeah, I had a lot of people mention it because I know you need black pepper to activate the turmeric.

SPEAKER_12 51:38

Correct. So the body can absorb it.

SPEAKER_03 51:39

What is the biggest benefit of turmeric? Like, what's the big crave there for it?

SPEAKER_12 51:43

Well, uh to be honest, there's a lot of promotional stuff on turmeric now.

SPEAKER_03 51:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 51:49

So a lot of people are seeing it on Facebook and everything because it's it's easily accessible, it's in the grocery stores, it's all over the place on a regular basis, and uh it's anti-inflammatory as well. Doesn't come close to Chaga. Yeah, but people don't know that. And as soon as they hear turmeric, they think, oh, I gotta get that. Well, which is fine. But uh the Chag is far more beneficial, but this is is just it gives flavor and it gives uh another drink that people enjoy, very much enjoy.

SPEAKER_03 52:19

Okay, so uh turmeric does the exact same thing as Chaga, just on a lower scale.

SPEAKER_12 52:23

Way, way, way lower.

SPEAKER_03 52:24

Okay, yeah, yeah. Because like when people are coming up, they're like, Oh, I hear this a big trend about it. I'm like, yeah, but Chag already does this, just so you know. Yeah. And you know, Chag is the number one medicinal mushroom in the world.

SPEAKER_12 52:33

And yeah, and but it to turmeric can grow just about anywhere.

SPEAKER_03 52:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 52:36

Uh well, comparatively speaking, to we're we're in the turmeric markets, but Chag is extremely hard to find and it's nowhere near as as popular because nobody knows much about it just yet.

SPEAKER_03 52:50

All right. Well, I good to know. I kind of answer my question there and appreciate the information about that one. Because like I said, I just wasn't too sure what the big crave was.

SPEAKER_12 52:58

Yep. Um with the turmeric? Yeah. Yeah, a lot of people take turmeric because they um uh there's a lot more marketing about it. There's a lot more information and it's readily available.

SPEAKER_03 53:10

Yeah, you it's something you can match more easily.

SPEAKER_12 53:13

Yeah, and it's uh it's a people put in their foods and cook with it all the time.

SPEAKER_03 53:17

Now I noticed a couple of things because usually I don't see it until it's you know different type of the year.

Drones, Sports, And Ticket Prices

SPEAKER_03 53:23

But you got your drone out. Well, the drone though.

SPEAKER_12 53:26

Drone, yeah. Well, one of the markets actually asked, uh, I gotta take it up. Um, I did some footage for one of the markets, and they want to use that. So I uh I got the drone out and I'm gonna do some uh footage and and work with that and see if we can uh do some uh market footage uh from the Halburton market. So they want to post that. So I got the drone out to be able to do that. And it's got a a follow-me um uh mode on it, so uh you just walk through the market and I'll get the uh manager to walk through and and she can walk through the market and get some footage out of it when it's busy. So that's that's why the drone's out. Yeah. We're we're we're uh with all the drone and talks around everywhere. Uh with drones, etc. etc. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:09

I'll tell you what, you want to join the uh you know 20 people that got in trouble with drones for the FIFA World Cup that's going on?

SPEAKER_12 54:14

Oh, geez. Well, there's been a few. I I remember some of the NFL football games and stuff like that where drones came in and they shut them down.

SPEAKER_04 54:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 54:23

But uh yeah, no, I didn't hear about the uh World Cup ones having drones. I and I was shocked as one of the one of the people uh went to school with Sonia, went to get her and her husband Joe uh tickets for the game in Toronto. And the cheapest tickets she could get in the nosebleeds were $2,200 each. It was just like, and she said, I don't know about that. I said, Well, Sonia, it says if you if you follow that kind of stuff and it's something, how often is it gonna happen here and when are you gonna get the chance? So once the light time kind of thing.

SPEAKER_03 54:54

I was the one thing I was gonna say, it's like I understand the price is ridiculous. I wouldn't pay as gel, but there's a point like I understand the concept because you know, hockey here in North America is what soccer is or football. Yeah, around the world. Around the world.

SPEAKER_12 55:11

Yeah. So like yeah, and anybody can play. I mean, you look at the cost of hockey now. The price is ridiculous for people, the equipment and everything else, and the the sticks alone, yeah, plus all the and all the rest, and uh and the fees you pay to play on a on a rep team, particularly, it's a pretty expensive.

SPEAKER_03 55:29

Oh, absolutely, and I guess so, like you know, what hockey is to Canada is what football is to the states, and what you know, or American football, and what soccer is or football is to the rest of the world, yeah. So it's just one of those things where I'm like, you know what? Yeah, here in Canada, we won't really gain those experiences. I know the MLS is getting bigger, but we will never gain that experience of what soccer or football really means. Like, why is it so popular?

SPEAKER_12 55:56

Yeah, to a lot of Canadians, comparatively speaking.

SPEAKER_03 55:58

Yeah, because when you you travel and you're like, oh wait, what's what's there to do in Europe or or Italy or France or whatever, it's like, oh, it's supposed to soccer game.

SPEAKER_12 56:05

Yeah, when I when I was uh a kid growing up, it was uh everybody had to play on a hockey team. Every every boy in any of the blocks around, everybody played on a team. Yeah, and when you came home from school, it was uh get your hockey stick and grab the nets and out and playing road hockey. And the big thing was uh anytime of uh it was famous uh when you talk to kids and or people my age now, and you say the word car, it's it brings well. Yeah, that means uh there's a car coming and you gotta move the nets and stop the game.

SPEAKER_03 56:36

Yeah, grab the nets, pause it. Yeah, you know, if you really are gonna fight over where the balls can be placed, you do an angle in that area.

SPEAKER_12 56:43

Yeah, and we used to use tennis balls all the time, and and it was just every single kid right after school, out in the street, and everybody just knew you just went out, and that's the way it was. But it's the same with soccer around the world. Yeah, and quite frankly, you know, it basically what you need is just a soccer ball, and you're good to go. I know when I was doing some missionary work in Kenya, I took a soccer ball to the kids there and gave them a soccer ball just so they had some some form of activity to play.

SPEAKER_03 57:08

Yeah, for like what cost of a soccer ball is like what's I mean, I know they're gonna look it up there in price compared to when I was a kid. Yeah. It's like, you know, 20 bucks, you can still play a whole game of 20 bucks for hockey. It's like, well, 20 bucks gives you the blade of your skate. Yeah, without the other one, though. Yeah. So I guess there's one more thing that I'd notice now being back here and you know, being back here for more of the summertime,

Backyard Plants And Pickling Plans

SPEAKER_03 57:32

too. You keep bringing a lot of plants home here.

SPEAKER_02 57:35

Are you starting a garden? You know, not gardening because like the I hear all the time is oh, I really want to do a garden. I really want to do a garden. So, what kind of plants are you bringing home now?

SPEAKER_12 57:43

Oh, yeah. So, so Master Gardener Bev Delonardo, uh, she was uh I had her on and we did some recordings uh for uh last week's uh show. And anyways, so um Bev was was she was going on holiday, she said, Jerry, she says, look, you need some peppers. So I got some cayenne pepper, some jalapeno pepper, and some Hungarian mild, hot, mild hot peppers, uh is what she said. They're great for pickling and stuff like that. So I got a bunch of peppers from her and we put those in jars and and uh um not jars, but uh we got a bunch of pots there, the great big pots and try putting them in. And I've got the the heirloom tomatoes growing in the backyard, the lavage, some um, what else have I got? Loads of mint. Um, stinging nettle. I'm just trying to think of all the stuff around. What's that uh lemon balm? Uh Mum cleaned out all my uh sage and and basil. Oh, I got uh from a special basil plant that I talked with Bez about with uh Master Gardener Bev about in last week's show. Um I got that at home now too, and it's you propagate it by putting stems in the ground. He came from Italy, and uh the uh the guy that uh does our uh two-stroke engine stuff, you know, the chainsaws and the uh whippersnippers and the lawnmowers and stuff like that, he uh is a gardener as well. He he's an Italian and and uh he's 88 years old, great guy, and huge amount he gave me bay leaf as well. So I got a bay leaf plant going and a bunch of other stuff. So yeah, so we got a lot of plants and we're we're we're gonna see how we can do with some of these and see if we can pickle a bunch. I missed out and messed up this year a bit uh because didn't get any wild leeks to pickle.

SPEAKER_03 59:32

No, we only had the one batch and that was it, and we just didn't make it back out.

SPEAKER_12 59:35

Nope, did not.

SPEAKER_03 59:37

I mean there's always next year.

SPEAKER_12 59:39

Yeah, yeah.

Final Blessing And Sign Off

SPEAKER_12 59:40

All right, Garrett. Well, I think uh appreciate that. Congratulations on you and Brittany and Gritton and everything going well there, and and uh with God's blessing, we hope uh uh everything goes well in the future with them. And uh appreciate you being on the show.

SPEAKER_03 59:56

Yeah, thanks for having me again. Uh it's always uh a pleasure you know catching up and seeing what's going on. And like I appreciate it, thank you.

SPEAKER_12 1:00:10

Yeah. Just a little bit of update uh because I get a lot of people asking questions of what's happening with Garrett, and our friends in Halliburton ask that on a regular basis. So we've given you an update and given you some other things that are out happening out there under the canopy. Thanks for listening.

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