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From Nursing to Empowerment: A Journey of Resilience with Carolyn Gentry Coleman

September 12, 2023 Jacquiline Season 2 Episode 4
From Nursing to Empowerment: A Journey of Resilience with Carolyn Gentry Coleman
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From Nursing to Empowerment: A Journey of Resilience with Carolyn Gentry Coleman
Sep 12, 2023 Season 2 Episode 4
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Ever wish you could have a heart-to-heart with someone who's truly lived a diverse life? Well, your wish is granted. We got to chat with the inspiring Carolyn Gentry Coleman, a registered nurse turned politician, turned writer. Carolyn, also known as the Let it Go coach, divulged her enriching journey from nursing to politics and how these experiences shaped her into the person she is today. She shed light on the significance of standing up for your convictions, both in voting and personal decisions, and highlighted the unquestionable support that family and friends play in our lives. 

Life is full of ups and downs, and the best way to navigate through them is with faith and resilience, two qualities Carolyn generously shares with us. As an author, she turned to writing as a stress-buster during her campaign days, a journey which led her to write her first book, Happiness, Hurting, Healing. But there's more, she also shares a soothing balm in the form of her uplifting song, "Won't He Do It." This episode is a testament to the strength and trust in divine intervention and the ability to turn life's challenges into blessings.

Carolyn's books have drawn from her experiences and resonate deeply with her readers. Her keen observation of people has shaped the strong characters in her books adding depth and authenticity. Further exploring her journey as an author, she talks about how her books have been integrated into her coaching business to foster self-discovery and healing. And above all, she stresses on the importance of self-care and empowerment. This conversation with Carolyn Gentry Coleman is sure to leave you brimming with wisdom, inspiration, and strength. Let's tune in and embark on this enriching journey together.

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Ever wish you could have a heart-to-heart with someone who's truly lived a diverse life? Well, your wish is granted. We got to chat with the inspiring Carolyn Gentry Coleman, a registered nurse turned politician, turned writer. Carolyn, also known as the Let it Go coach, divulged her enriching journey from nursing to politics and how these experiences shaped her into the person she is today. She shed light on the significance of standing up for your convictions, both in voting and personal decisions, and highlighted the unquestionable support that family and friends play in our lives. 

Life is full of ups and downs, and the best way to navigate through them is with faith and resilience, two qualities Carolyn generously shares with us. As an author, she turned to writing as a stress-buster during her campaign days, a journey which led her to write her first book, Happiness, Hurting, Healing. But there's more, she also shares a soothing balm in the form of her uplifting song, "Won't He Do It." This episode is a testament to the strength and trust in divine intervention and the ability to turn life's challenges into blessings.

Carolyn's books have drawn from her experiences and resonate deeply with her readers. Her keen observation of people has shaped the strong characters in her books adding depth and authenticity. Further exploring her journey as an author, she talks about how her books have been integrated into her coaching business to foster self-discovery and healing. And above all, she stresses on the importance of self-care and empowerment. This conversation with Carolyn Gentry Coleman is sure to leave you brimming with wisdom, inspiration, and strength. Let's tune in and embark on this enriching journey together.

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Speaker 1:

Tonight we are joined by the Carolyn Gentry Coleman, the Let it Go coach herself, so let's give her a nice, warm welcome as we bring her up how you doing today, I mean tonight, gentry. Hey, jackie.

Speaker 3:

Some of it cut out. I'm doing well, I hope you are. I've been there to be doing some nursing today, so I'm good. I'm good. Can you give somebody? Can you give the listeners?

Speaker 1:

not somebody because they might listen, linda, the listeners some insight about your background, what it is you do and what we are here to talk about, and what we are here to talk about today while I'm kicking it with you.

Speaker 3:

Well, my background, my background. I'm a wife, a mom, my daughter, my sister. I'm probably the best cousin and friend anyone could ever have. Okay, professionally, I am a registered nurse and have been for over 36 years, so I have enjoyed the journey. I laugh because now it doesn't seem like it was a journey, but there were some tough moments, especially in college, getting started doing your thing, but it becomes kind of like clockwork. Once you know what to do, you do it.

Speaker 3:

I'm a huge advocate for my patients. My prayer every day going to work was to be alert to my patients' needs, to basically not overlook any sign or symptoms that they may have that needed attention. So that was my prayer every morning. Every day I went to work, no matter what time I went, because I didn't want to be the one who overlooked something that could cause someone some harm or cause them to have a setback. So my patients were truly a priority, no matter what I had going on in my life Personally. I left that in the car. I left it in the car because they deserved the best of me, so I just gave them back. You know I've turned off her and that has been rewarding. It has been cathartic, been cathartic. It has been very refreshing to me as well.

Speaker 3:

I have a ramp up local political office twice lost both times. But not to fear, you learn a lot. You learn a lot about people. You learn a lot about local politics. And you can't. You just run a clean campaign. That's just my suggestion for anyone. Just run a clean campaign.

Speaker 3:

But you have to have a heart for people to do this. And a lot of people say, oh, you have to be dirty. No, you don't. If that's not who you are, why would you change? For that it's not worth it. You know, win or lose, it's not worth it. You know, because I can still hold my head up high, I can still fist bump my opponent when he wants me to do it from time to time. And it wasn't personal, it was just some things that I saw that I thought needed to be addressed. So I did that. I had a lot of family support. I mean, family from all over the United States was thin and I'm like, yeah, I must really believe in your girl, you know, and I enjoyed that part of it because that encouraged me to do the more. Does that make sense?

Speaker 1:

Makes perfect sense when you have a great support system behind you and, even though you know it's good, you know you believe in yourself and God believes in you. But when God works through people to believe in you and to believe in you know whatever it is that your vision is that you want to do, you value that. What are you supposed to value that more? And it makes you want to do more, and we should appreciate people like that. So I definitely understand.

Speaker 3:

You know. So it was good, ron, I had so much support. I mean, people were calling me up to volunteer and I'm like for real though, you know, I was like I'm impressed. I'm impressed. I don't know if I called anybody up and said I'll walk with you, I'll knock on some doors, but now that I know what it takes to get it done, of course I, you know, I volunteer for somebody that I believe in and I'll make some phone calls. You know I'll help do the phone bank or whatever they need, because I see how important it is.

Speaker 3:

There's one thing to be an informed voter. You know nationally, you know when we're doing the president, when we're doing our other elected officials across the country. Sure, you need to be an informed. That's always been moderately informed about what I was going to do, which way I was going to go with that, and I just encourage people to continue to do that.

Speaker 3:

Don't vote like other people. Vote you, vote your conviction or who you think will help you, who you think is the best person for the job. It doesn't have to be personal, it may be a stranger, but don't vote for you. Vote your conviction. I'll just leave it at that. Vote your conviction, because some people they'll come up to you, you know, don't like him, what they think they got nothing to do with me. I mean, does that have anything to do with me? I don't want to hear that negativity and I just smile and walk off as soon as I can because I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear it. That's not helping me make a better decision, it's just not. I don't care what your personal relationship y'all might have fell out over a social club thing. You know what I'm saying. Don't do that, don't, don't, don't.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I totally understand. I totally understand. Don't make your problem my problem. So did you take, did you take what you learned with that and and use that for your writing journey?

Speaker 3:

Well, to a degree, I did Went to work one day and this one of the nurses I'm now published author, so I am high fiving her and saying who does to you, I'm so happy for you. And Cassie was like I was like how did you get started? Oh, I just I loved to write, you know, but I just really took out the time to get it done. I said I am so proud of you because that's something I've always wanted to do. And just a little sidebar, some days I'd be at work and I said I'm gonna write about this one day.

Speaker 3:

Guys, who wants a chapter in my book? Because people will never believe what we go through and I've said it in various settings when various times of my nursing career, because truth is stranger than fiction. And they would laugh. They would be like I'm gonna help you after oh, I know you will, because you probably have as many stories as I do. I said we'll just change the names to protect the innocent and we would laugh it off. But I was telling Cassie I was like I've always wanted to write, I just haven't figured out the time front. And she was like write, ms Carol, and write. And so she told me how she got started and I decided during that campaigning it was time to write, because I needed a way to de-stress at the end of a day, at the end of a day of campaigning, and it needed to be healthy.

Speaker 3:

And so I started writing and I was like, and the first book I wrote was happiness, hurting, healing. But I kept losing it because I kept forgetting my title, because the title I wanted was soaking in the tub and just relaxing. And then I went oh, let's put a little rom-com in here. So I started writing and it's like I could not stop. But at the end of that period of writing, for that evening I just felt so relieved.

Speaker 3:

And I was like okay, this is my time, Let me just do it, mm-hmm, god came in and finished it, oh absolutely Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Yes, god came in and finished it. Won't he do it, won't?

Speaker 3:

he do it. He said he would.

Speaker 2:

Okay classic, okay classic, oh oh. Ain't nobody stopping my shine. They try to break me, try to take me out, but I got Jesus on my side. So bad I thought it would die, but ain't no power stronger than the one that came and laid on his life. And I got multiple time. But the enemy can't stop me, cause there's a calling on my line.

Speaker 2:

So when I'm crying, don't last too long, cause he gon' step in and make it all right. Won't he do it? He said he would Write your battles for you. They gon' wonder how you sleep at night. Won't he do it? I asked you, will Anybody tell you something different? You know that's a lie. You gon' look back and be so amazed how it turned out. He's only his grace. Won't he do it? He said he would. So I trust him at all times.

Speaker 2:

I'm about to lose it again. I'm about to let him know where I'm from. Don't take me there again. Just call on Jesus, my friend. Give me back your line one more time, cause he's always listening.

Speaker 2:

Ain't nobody perfect. Everybody's hurting Need to whisper Lord, save me from my weaknesses, cause you're always on time. Gonna get your breakthrough, cause I'm gon' get mad. Won't he do it. He said he would Write your battles for you. They gon' wonder how you sleep at night. Won't he do it? I asked you will Anybody tell you something different? You know that's a lie. You gon' look back and be so amazed how it turned out. It's only his grace, won't he do it? He said he would, so I trust him at all times. You see what the enemy planned for my downfall Turned out to be the greatest victory of my life, cause when it comes at your fast and hard, there's only one that could come and make it right. So ain't no need for stressing and crying, cause he gon' show up just like he did the last time, in the last time, in the last time.

Speaker 2:

I know, I know, I know. Won't he do it? He said he would. He said he would Write your battles for you. They gon' wonder how you sleep at night. Won't he do it? I asked you will? He said he would. Anybody tell you something different? You know that's a lie. You gon' look back and be so amazed how it turned out. It's only his grace, won't he do it? He said he would, so I trust I'm at all times, won't he do it? He said he would, so I trust I'm at all times. Won't he do it. I asked you will, so I trust I'm at all times. Won't he do it? I know he will, so I trust I'm at all times. Won't he do it. He said he would Just a little time.

Speaker 1:

Yes, want me do it. Want me do it, carolyn, she will.

Speaker 3:

And I was losing that. I love that. And you know the enemy plans for your downfall. You know you'd be like today. I was like man because the reason I got on the political thing. I came home one day after being at the at the Y and the Lord said ruin. I said ruin Because we were talking about politics at the Y. I was like, oh, okay. Then I thought that ain't me. I said, lord, you know, I'm a nurse, I don't know about politics. And um, I got up and I just saw walking around my bedroom and I was like obedience is better than sacrifice. Obedience is better than that's my Lord, you want me to do this. I got to do it because you told me.

Speaker 3:

So I started calling different people and, um, my mom was the first person I called. She didn't answer. So I'm like okay. So I called a friend of mine, my best friend, and she was like oh, yeah, girl, go for it. I'm like what? Well? Then I called my brother. She was like, oh, that'd be perfect. And I'm like what is wrong with these people? And I called the cousin and he was like, oh, I'm so happy for you Cause, yeah, I got to get promoted.

Speaker 3:

A promotion, yes, dude. I was like, well, somebody said no, does anyone have the sense enough to say no to me? And no, and when I finally got my mom, she was like, oh yeah, I think you can do that, go ahead. And I'm like, what is wrong? I said, okay, lord, I'm going, I'm going wrong. I said, but you truly got to show, I don't know what I'm doing. And so, um, like I said, people came in and held and so I gave it a better run the second time. And, uh, and they took notice the first time, but they definitely took notice the second time. And I'm talking when I said they, I'm talking about the community, and um, and you run into opposition.

Speaker 3:

But, like I said, I walked off, you know, talked to the hand on her behalf of this, and one of my nieces was like whatever day, you ready, I'm ready. And I'm like I'm ready now, cause I have to work when my volunteers are ready to work, you know, so it it worked out, but I lost. And so, after I licked my wounds in, you know, and got some rest, I slept for two days after the after the election, I slept for two days and I'm not a bed person and um, so I was in the bed for two days because I was exhausted and um, so about a week later I said, okay, lord, I got my sense about me now. All right, now I ran both time I was obedient, I lost. Now I'm a deal. She told me to do now. Okay. So he said, I have a bigger platform for you and I went really all right, all right, I had no idea, no idea.

Speaker 3:

So the book number one turned into number two in ginger was not meant to be a series and um. So I was selling um book one and book two and um, the second book is the reentry of gentry. And people would stop me why didn't you write about me? And I would just start laughing. I don't like, what do you mean? I can resonate so well with both these books and I was like, oh, that's good, that's what I need. You know, men, not so much Okay.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

The women were like you left us hanging, we need some more from her. And that's why I left her hanging, because I didn't know if I would pick her back up again and if she needed to do any more work. And they were like gentry has more work to do, and so I came up with the third one, gentry's journey, and um. So we were at a book fair and um, when, um, two of my friends were there and they were debating on what my fourth book should be about, and I'm like, well, they're very passionate about this, so let me step aside and let them tell me what to do. Okay, and um, that's what I want to look, I got to stop you.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry, because you know I got to stop you, gentry, so okay, so that's what I want to get in, so as a let it go coach, right? You empower women and you promote self-care. So how did you incorporate your books into your coaching to enhance the healing process and promote self-discovery?

Speaker 3:

Um, in the book, you know, and it is fiction, but I am a people watcher. Okay, if I go to a game or something that's local, if you're not keeping my attention 100%, I'm going to start perusing around and I'll be basically interpreting someone else's conversation and I interpret it my way. And, um, there's a section and I can't remember which book where this couple is arguing publicly and that bothers me to the core. And, um, because, um, a man and wife, a husband and wife or boyfriend, girlfriend, they should not be in the street arguing publicly. Somebody needs to chill it out, you know, somebody needs to have sense enough to be quiet. And um, so I made up a whole thing about that, how it started. And he was mad, and now nobody will speak to me and I was like you started, you know you, you had in the street this fucking like you know you talking to the lab hole or something.

Speaker 2:

Not the lab hole.

Speaker 3:

No, she was, like you know, just trying to ignore him, because that's an embarrassing moment to me and I just don't think you should put your, your spouse, your man, your woman out on blasts like that in a public arena. I just don't believe in it. And so, um, I was like what you need to do? So this is the empowerment piece get in the car, get behind the steering wheel and leave it. You know, you don't just take that, you just don't take it. I'm going to be worried.

Speaker 1:

Go ahead, sweetie, when you do that right, when you, when you joke your spouse on blasts, that's, that's almost like talk show stuff, right, like no right, you know, and we don't do talk shows, we don't do talk shows.

Speaker 2:

I overheard a conversation between your ex-girlfriend and you.

Speaker 2:

Then I saw it so clearly. Suddenly it all made sense. Before you go won't explain it to yourself Let me explain my everyday. That's none of my shade of lipstick, the more my scratch marks on your back. Is it her that you want to be with? You've done me invocations and talk shows. I'll shade the day before this long day. Come home later when there's new sheets on it. You're gonna lose the money over. And all of this is talk shows, talk shows.

Speaker 2:

I felt like you was hiding something when you started showering alone and someone used my Chanel perfume. Since this morning, when I left home, you tiptoeing in the bedroom while you're thinking I'm a sweet. If I catch your s and one more lie I'll be telling you to leave. So that's none of my shade of lipstick, the more my scratch marks on your back. Is it her that you want to be with? Is it her that you want to be with? You've done me invocations and talk shows. I made the way before this long day. Come home later when there's new sheets on it. You're gonna lose the money over. You've done me invocations and talk shows, he said. She said you got a business or luck in the streets, he said. She said everyone knows it's like we're Rome TV.

Speaker 2:

I made the way before this long day. Come home later when there's new sheets on it. You're gonna lose the money over. You've done me invocations and talk shows. No, that's not my shade of lipstick. The more my scratch marks on your back. Is it her that you want to be with? Is it her that you want to be with? You've done me invocations and talk shows. I made the way before this long day. Come home later when there's new sheets on it.

Speaker 1:

You're gonna lose the money over, he said. She said, yeah, I took you back with that one. Then I did.

Speaker 3:

He said she said girl, I guess, if I'm making it up and he says she think okay.

Speaker 1:

That's not my shade of lipstick, that was my song. I got to see how well she knows these gems. We get back to it. We get back to it. You've written books exploring life choices and have contributed to bestselling anthologies with an S. How has your nursing your political career and your books? How have they played a role in your writing process and do you have any specific, you know, songs or books or genres that has inspired you as an author?

Speaker 3:

Well, politically, I have not written not one word about politics. I don't really plan, especially local politics. I haven't written anything about politics, local or national, because I look to entertain and educate. Okay, the politics to me. You need to know a little bit more about the game. I know superficially what the game entails. I don't know deeply what the game entails, but I don't want to. To be quite honest, I don't want to hurt anybody. That's not who I am and that's not what I'm writing about. I'm not writing a get back at you for what. Nobody's done anything to me. I mean just because you don't care for me. It's not something because you don't know me, and that's fine. But what I have learned is when these individuals take a seat or position, they think it's theirs. It is really owned by the public. You know, when you take constitution and governance, a lot of these positions, especially council people's positions, they're part time jobs. They're part time jobs and they're took a real job because you have to be voted in and voted out. So you can't take this on as your brick, as your moneymaker, because it's a part time job. So I have not written anything. I don't plan on writing anything about that.

Speaker 3:

But when it comes to Gentry, her friends, the circle of friends that's the book that my two friends came up with. That I needed to write about was how the friends met and they met going into college. And you know, some people drop out of college, Some people say it's not for them, Some wanted to start their own businesses and Gentry is the one who said, well, I'm going to see it to the end because I've always wanted my college degree. But we supported each other in whichever decision they made and you know, with my, your best decisions. You don't think about the heels and the valleys that you're going to go through.

Speaker 3:

You need that support, you need that encouragement, Even if you make a mistake. You know your friends. Really, if they're your friends and if they're good, support people. They're going to say, well, we all make mistakes, but you know how your friends, they don't pull you out the hole. Then when they pull you up, you better be ready for that lashing. You know they're going to be saying, they're going to tell you about yourself. Now, what made you do?

Speaker 1:

that, yes, they're going to tell you about it, but real, true friends, you know. You know you can always count on them right.

Speaker 3:

They're going to put you back on your toes. Then they're going to tell you about it. Yes, so they want you to feel good about yourself.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

Count me through thick and thin. Our friendship I will never end. When you are weak, I will be strong, I will be strong, I will be strong, I will be strong, I will be strong. I can see it's hurting you. I can feel your pain. It's hard to see the sun shine through the rain. I know sometimes it seems as if it's never going, but you get through it. Just don't give in, cause you can't count me through thick and thin. Our friendship I will never end. When you are weak, I will be strong, helping you to carry on. Call me, I will be there when I say count on. You can count on me, cause you can't say that. I know sometimes it seems as if we're standing on the wall, but we'll get through it. Call me, I will let us fall. I'll count on me, I'll be there.

Speaker 2:

A friendship that will never end. When you are weak, I will be strong, helping you to carry on. Call me, I will be there, don't be afraid, leave me. When I say count on, as I'm placed inside of all of us. Where our faith and love begins, you should reach to find the truth and love. The answer there will be. I know that life can make you feel it's much harder than it really is, but we'll get through it. Just don't give in. Count on me. It'll never end. When you are weak, I will be strong. Call me, I will be there. Don't be afraid, leave me when I say count on. Oh yes, you can. No, I can't sure you can. So glad I can count on me, you won't ever.

Speaker 1:

Okay now you know that was my girl. Y'all know how I feel about Whitney. Y'all know she's the apple of my eye. Okay, I cannot do a show unless I play two people, that's Whitney Houston and Patricia Cox, and I really truly love Whitney and what she stood for as far as her music is concerned and everything else, because you know, we filed down I'm not going to play this y'all, but we filed down but we get back up and that lady was the epitome to me of resilience and she was fighting them demons so she just couldn't fight them no more and I just truly respect that about her. But moving right along, gentry, are you there, my love? Yes, yes, I am Okay. So, with your extensive experience and critical care nursing, you have advocated for patients and focused on outcome management. What do you believe that your books, your music that you play on your radio station, that we're going to talk about in a minute, can play a role in healing process for patients, especially the ones that are dealing with anxiety, stress or medical illnesses?

Speaker 3:

Well, I tell them your mindset is half the battle.

Speaker 3:

You've got to want to get healed, and it's not just every aspect of healing. I am by no means a professional in behavioral health but you know they have to come through at some point in time because we have to get them medically stable before we can transition them to a more specialized unit for behavioral health. So you can't avoid it. It's a part of the assessment process. But for people who really want to get help or who want to be helped, you've got to play a part in your healthcare. Because I am a board member for an advocacy group and it's Charms Mitted Health Foundation. It's a one-seek three-organization and it's patient advocacy and just teaching people about various disease processes and what the marginalized community needs to know.

Speaker 3:

You know the black and brown community. We are disproportionately affected by so many disease processes and we advocate for ourselves. At least we're not really hands-on. I don't know if we are afraid to speak up for ourselves. Listen for early and always encourage people. Take someone with you when you go to the doctor so they can help you hear what is being said, advocate for yourself. If you don't ask questions you'll never know. Kind of, stay off Google. You know Dr Google is not the expert on this and it will confuse you the more Okay. So we have to advocate for ourselves.

Speaker 3:

And in nursing you're always teaching. You're in a teaching role because you're teaching them about their disease process. But patients are people. As soon as they hear that they're going to be all right, everything that I have taught goes out the window once they get in that wheelchair and head out that door. You can see it on their face they're not going to take their medications correctly anymore. They're not going to eat properly anymore. They're going to do what they want to do. And that is people. That's people. I work on that later nurse. You know I appreciate everything and you know they're not going to do it.

Speaker 4:

They're not going to do it.

Speaker 1:

I am guilty, honey. I've had the best nurses. If any of you guys don't know a little bit about me, I am surviving thyroid cancer, lupus, fibromyalgia, and I hate pills. So I had to be on this levothyroid syndrome because they took my thyroid out and so I'm on this supplement for the rest of my life and I hated it because I had all these other pills combating with that one. So I've been dealing with this thing for nine years now and I've yet to go into remission. So I'm bouncing out the wild. There's a whole bunch of stuff dealing with me.

Speaker 1:

But I just refused to take their medicine because I didn't like how the other medicine combined with that medicine and how it made me feel. So the nurses always say girl, you need to start taking your medicine. I don't have different nurses. I've even had Carolyn like, girl, you just need to take it. And I'm like, yeah, I love you, Gentry. But I think to myself, girl, I ain't about to take that medicine, I'm not going to take that stuff. And then I ain't going to be able to get up. But luckily for me, I ended up my endocrinologist. When I went to go see him the last time he had a new thing out in his liquid form and it tastes like bubblegum and I take that now and I'm a lot better. But yeah, I'm one of those people. I am, Gentry, One of your. Look, I'm one of your patients. I'm one of those hard-headed people. I'm just throwing it out there.

Speaker 3:

Well, you're not the only one, that is for sure. But it's frustrating for healthcare providers. I've seen doctors frustrated and some of it is beyond the patient's control. Don't get me wrong. If you have bad arteries, you just have bad arteries and you're doing everything you're supposed to be doing to help alleviate any further deterioration. And you have people who are such brutal diabetic they know what to do, what they're supposed to do, and they still end up back in the hospital, either in a diabetic coma or you know they just go through it and you know they have become blind because of their unstable diabetes and they're not beating those people you really empathize with, because they're doing all the right thing is just their body will not allow them to be who they're going to be, you know, be the best person that they're going to be, be the healthiest person they're going to be. But for there are a lot of people who are attention seekers. There's some people coming in who are just attention seekers and you're like I don't want to do this.

Speaker 1:

I've seen people go in honey and don't nothing be wrong with them? Don't nothing. Look, the last time I went into my blood pressure was very, very low and I had to end up going in and staying a while and the doctor had got so frustrated. There's one lady, because all her stuff came back normal and she was like y'all just trying to kick me out. He was like yeah, not only am I trying to kick you out, you getting out. And he said if I said you stay anywhere, you gonna be in asylum downstairs. He was done with this lady. He was, he was over it because he like this.

Speaker 1:

And they were trying to calm the doctor down. At that point he said she been her full hours. We need that bed. Like at this point, we need the bed. Is people out there that need that bed? All her vitals are okay, all her labs are fine. It's nothing else we could do, for we can't even get this lady a aspirin because there's nothing wrong with like at this point. Yeah, if you don't leave, we're going to have to call psych, what they call, what they call here. They call it SAS, s, a, a, s, sas, what they call SAS, because nothing is physically wrong with you, but maybe it's a mental thing, you know. So she got her stuff together after that child. She said well, what my discharge papers at?

Speaker 3:

Sometimes it is a losing battle and you'd be like there's someone in the room next to you who is definitely ill and you and you're playing. Come on, you know you take them away from somebody. Really need me.

Speaker 1:

And those situations like I heard it all before, right, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Baby, let me explain to you.

Speaker 3:

I'm saying what you saying it's not even like that.

Speaker 1:

It wasn't like that, but I saw baby. I don't love her.

Speaker 2:

You don't love me. I don't even want to talk to me.

Speaker 2:

I want to see your face she was telling me I want to see you walking through that. Why would I do like this Baby Working my nerve? God knows that I don't deserve what you put me through, because I've been so true to you for you to come at me with another name Excuse, see, I believe in you. Yes, I did. I have to shut you down. My family is like my lover. You know, I am no longer a concern. See, I heard it all before. Let me explain, baby, and I bet you think that's what you're stuck to me but your life ain't working now. Now the crew's hurting now. Now I have to shut you down. I have to shut you down. I have to shut you down. Play the fool before.

Speaker 2:

You had a good game I must admit, I was it when I was sober. But your life ain't working now. Now, look who's hurting. Now I have to shut you down. I have to shut you down. I used to hang on to your very words, but the more you lied to me, the more I heard. The things you used to say Would sound so sweet. I was not like you. But to believe I heard it all before that word, it wasn't my call. You saw, baby, I swear it wasn't me, but your life ain't working now. Now Look who's hurting now. I have to shut you down. I have to shut you down. Play the fool before you and my boo. I trusted you For way too long, way too long. Your life ain't working now. Look who's hurting now. Now I have to shut you down. I have to shut you down. Play the fool before you know you messed up. You gotta go now. Say what you want.

Speaker 4:

Your life ain't working now. Your life ain't working now. Look who's hurting. Now. I have to shut you down.

Speaker 2:

I have to shut you down. Play the fool I done. Changed the lights on the door. Yes, I did, and you ain't welcome no more. But your life ain't working now. Look who's hurting now. Look who's hurting now. I have to shut you down.

Speaker 1:

See, I heard it all before. Now, miss Coleman, what you know about that gentry, what you know about them lives ain't working. Now, look who's hurting now.

Speaker 3:

You know, we done all call somebody and one or two, oh, for real though. Okay, right, we got you, we got you. Yeah, look who's hurting?

Speaker 1:

now I had to shut you down.

Speaker 3:

You know, that's just a part of life, I think. I think that's just a level. People have to go up, go down, step across, because even in the hospitals, just because people are professionals and have these various titles, that don't mean that they don't have to call home and shit somebody down. Yeah, we've heard it and we'd be like ooh, tipping around Like little mice, not trying to disturb them, because you know they getting somebody good and told over there. So if it happens to us all, no one is immune.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yes, and even with that, we're dealing with elderly patients right. They go through things. I remember us talking before about it Financial abuse of the elderly and how that's a major concerning issue. So, in your opinion, how can you know what you do in the community as far as like your community engagement, help raise awareness and prevent Financial exploitation Among the elderly population, and what could we do as well?

Speaker 3:

Well, jessie, I'm glad you brought that up. A friend of mine wanted me to do a talk At her church and she said it can be on anything you want. So I said sure, I'll do it. And then I prayed about it and I was like I've done a couple of talks On other things and guy gave me Financial abuse because I see A good bit of what I think Right is happening sometimes in the hospital.

Speaker 3:

You don't know the true story, but it feels as though the patient is being financially abused and it is to just teach, just like I went into that setting and talk about what science and symptoms are science to look for when you feel as though a person is being financially abused, especially the elderly? And there was a seminar where an attorney was speaking and he said just if a person's not managing their own money, do it. And whether it's your child or whomever you trust, what makes you think they're gonna manage your money as well? And that just kind of opened my eyes. That's true. And he said just because they're the oldest don't mean they're the wisest or they're the ones that you need to put on your account. Excuse me to do this and some of the things that you see the person is not eating well, their clothes are tattered. People bring the patients in and they forget or, in their haste, the sheets are threadbare. You're like they're gonna check every mom. They're gonna check. The sheet shouldn't be threadbare that you bring in and the pajama shouldn't be threadbare. These people need to be fed. They need to be protected. So if we see any bruising or things of that nature, we're reporting agents. We have to report those type of things.

Speaker 3:

We call it DHR down here, department of Human Health and Human Resources, and when I worked in a certain role I had them basically on speed down, not just for my county but any county, and they would say well, when that patient is discharged home, give us a call and they would take down all the information prior too.

Speaker 3:

And rarely they would come up and visit with the patient while they were still in the hospital, but when they did that, they already had a relationship with them. So you would be surprised at the number of people that are in bankruptcy court on behalf of someone who's 90 years old and you're like people are 90 years old on getting there. They don't get all these credit cards. So somebody is doing this, making those applications for them to get that credit card and not paying it, and so that person's name is coming up into bankruptcy court. You're like, how does a 90 year old get in this type of financial burden? And then they'll tell you I don't know who did that, because my dad is bedbound, you know. So you look over and you're like, well, maybe it was you who got that Right.

Speaker 1:

Who got all the information. Who knows the most about him to be able to do those things, except for you or somebody in your family or somebody that you close to? And that happens a lot. You see, it's happening with John Amos right now, with his daughter and his son fighting over who gonna have custody over him and his inheritance and everything that he has. And Poe John Amos, he can't help himself. He don't know who for him or who against him, because both of his kids is on something you know, and not saying you know drug, anything like that.

Speaker 1:

What I mean by on something is that they are not neither one of them, in my opinion, and I could say but I want to say this is my show, you know. So yeah, I could feel the type of way, put it in the chat or give it to the Lord, but either way, I feel like, with John Amos's situation, his kids, both of them in my opinion, are exploiting the situation and are exploiting him. And I'm just on the outside looking in. I don't know what type of father he was, but from what I see and from what I've read, he was a great father and instead of them coming together to do what they supposed to do to help their dad.

Speaker 1:

They're exploiting the situation on both ends and it's just unfortunate that that's and that's elderly abuse and it just unfortunate it truly is, it truly is. So it's good to have people like you that are advocates or you know people of elderly who are dealing with financial abuse, right, and you know financial hardships, you know, because they go into ruins and they go homeless and they go without because they're people that they're so close with are doing these things to them. So, as a community as you know, as far as us, do you guys at Jennifer Profit, or how does it work where people can reach out and do something to help, you know, prevent financial exploitation?

Speaker 3:

Well, most people know when it comes to DHRM they are more concerned about children and the elderly, the middle-aged group. Some of those people can make decisions for themselves. They just don't make the correct decision. But they will immediately tackle senior citizens and children. Well, and neighbors have reported that they felt as though that patient or that neighbor was not being treated fairly. They only see people the first of the month at the house. You know that's when they get their funding. They don't see people. You know it looks like. You know she looks a little shabby, she's out here walking and she looks a little lost.

Speaker 3:

Well, you're a reporting agent. When you witness something of this nature, You're not really accusing anybody. You just want someone to come by and check on that person. So that's what you have to do. And we've had patients where their families will just try to hold on to them until the first of the year. I mean the first of the month, I'm sorry, the first of the month because they know if they get that check the first of month they don't have to send it back. But that patient is suffering through the whole thing. But you can't make any decisions at that point in time. You can't call in and request an ethical meeting of the minds with the family and everything, but you can't change them. You just give them their options. Yeah, we can't Go ahead. I apologize, no go ahead.

Speaker 3:

No, you're fine, we had one guy and the doctor was okay, carolyn, have you started a conversation with the family? That means, have you started talking about work, drawing care? And I was like, no, I wait on the big guns to come in here and do that. You and so we would always tease each other. And he was like well, we're going to have that conversation. He'll be a part of us. Absolutely I don't mind being a part of it. That way I can talk to him, that way I can follow up with what you say. Well, the young lady came in, chest up, shoulders squared Like she was, and she we introduced ourselves, told her who we were. The doctor introduced himself, he introduced me. And so she said I want everything done for my dad. I want everything done. And so he was like well, you know he's not doing well and plus he he.

Speaker 3:

He was a quad, he was a quadriplegic and he said you know he was positive for cocaine. She stepped back, boy, those shoulders went down. Tears start flowing, oh man yeah. How are you going?

Speaker 1:

to cocaine and you were quadriplegic.

Speaker 2:

Not the color child.

Speaker 3:

Yes, it was. I had not had an opportunity to read that chart. Okay yeah, so I gave. I gave him the side ass. Hey you didn't, you didn't came at this chick and you didn't got me, oh my. And so when she came out, we gave her her time to spend with her dad and get her thoughts together. She came out, she was crying and she said well, I guess we'll just put him on comfort care. But I don't know, nobody know cocaine and I was like somebody know somebody know.

Speaker 1:

I know somebody know. But I'm going to tell you what she said. Okay, she said crack is black. She said it's not right, but it's okay, come on with me. Come on with me. Y'all know I had to do it now. Y'all know I could not let that slide. Y'all, I'm sorry, I had to do it, I had to do it.

Speaker 2:

I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it, I had to do it, I had to do it.

Speaker 4:

I had to do it.

Speaker 2:

I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it, I had to do it, I had to do it.

Speaker 3:

I had to do it.

Speaker 1:

I had to do it.

Speaker 3:

I had to do it, I had to do it, I had to do it, I had to do it, I had to do it, I had to do it, I had to do it, I had to do it. I had to do it.

Speaker 1:

I had to do it, I had to do it, I had to do it.

Speaker 3:

I had to do it.

Speaker 1:

I had to do it.

Speaker 3:

I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it, I had to do it, I had to do it.

Speaker 1:

I had to do it.

Speaker 4:

I had to do it.

Speaker 3:

I had to do it.

Speaker 1:

I had to do it.

Speaker 2:

I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it.

Speaker 2:

I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it. I had to do it, I had to do it, I had to do it, I had to do it. I had to do it.

Speaker 1:

I had to do it, I had to do it, I had to do it, I had to do it, I had to do it, I had to do it, I had to do it, I had to do it, I had to do it, I had to do it, I had to do it. Is there anything that you're working on now to help empower women? If so, what is it?

Speaker 3:

Well, I'm an adjunct clinical instructor. I have also been a lecturer. I have been an instructor off and on for about 20 years. I just love to see people grow. The majority of people in my classes are going to be female because nursing is a predominantly female profession. We still have men coming along. I like to see them grow.

Speaker 3:

I have worked with underserved young ladies and really encourage them. If you want to break the cycle, you can. If you get this degree, you'll be able to do that. That will be a step up for you to be able to do that. Some of them do really really well. Some people struggle. That's just life. That doesn't mean that they can't complete the course. Just try to encourage them.

Speaker 3:

If they want some extra help, they know they can call on me. They absolutely know they can call on me because I don't. If you need some help, let me know. I guess they were trying me to see if I really meant that. They called on me a couple of times and did the little sidebar because they don't want their friends to know that they're asking for help. I will do all I can do If it takes a little bit of tutoring on the side, if it takes going over a procedure a little bit more on the side. You will get that from me. You will get it without any condom, no condom nation. I won't be condescending, I will encourage you. Even when the new nurses come around, if I am available, if I'm there, I tell them hey, I introduce myself, I say if you ever have any questions and I'm here, I'm here to help, Just ask me. The worst question is the one that does that.

Speaker 3:

It asks it's me to ask I don't mind the people who have taken me up on that and I'm glad to be a resource for them. Honestly, it's not that I know it all, but the little bit I know I don't mind sharing Right.

Speaker 1:

Now anxiety and stress management are crucial for overall mental health. How can your books or the projects that you have coming up be utilized as a tool to alleviate anxiety and stress? Do you have any specific recommendations for songs, genres, any books that are particularly effective in this regard?

Speaker 3:

My best thing to tell everyone and I've told them this over the years sometimes you need to just walk. One of my podcasts is about come walk with me. I'm just walking through my neighborhood, talking at the end of some song and saying, just giving them tips. Walking is a good stress buster. It does not have to be something expensive that you do, just walk. Just walk for about 15, 20 minutes. You know 30, you definitely want to give it 30 minutes. Make sure you have on a good pair of walking shoes, take them water with you and walk somewhere when you feel like you're going to be safe. Make sure you have your phone with you or whatever. I usually walk my neighborhood and I still take my little golf club because I don't like pets. I don't like other people's pets, okay, because you don't know how. They always tell you, oh, he don't buy it. Well, I see his teeth keeping with you. Okay, just keeping with it.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, just keeping away from it.

Speaker 3:

I mean people tell you that then you end up on the ball by it. Walking is a good stress buster. Exercise is a good stress buster. I know everyone cannot exercise and you need to exercise properly because you don't want to injure yourself from a workout injury or something of that nature. So it can be affordable the cheapest thing you can do is to walk. When you are having a stressful day, you need to walk away from it for a minute. They can't walk away, like I can walk away, but you can come off the floor, off the unit, out of the office and just kind of walk around the parking lot for a minute. You can do that. Yeah, it'll give you a whole new lease on life in about 15 minutes, because a lot of times when you want to vent to someone, if you try to call them, those people are not available and it's not purposeful. It's just timing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's just timing Everybody has life going on, but if we can do this one thing if it ain't walking, we could just step right.

Speaker 3:

Sure, oh, you better step, because I love to line that Well, we don't step. Well, we don't step.

Speaker 1:

I know, you know I'm going with it, so come on, we're doing that you don't step in the name of love. We don't step in the name of love. We don't step in the name of love. Come on, I know you, I know you got it. Come on, you know where you, at Shantown. Baby yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 2:

Yeah it's cool. Yeah it's cool. Yeah it's cool. Yeah it's cool. Yeah it's cool. Yeah it's cool. Yeah it's cool. Yeah it's cool. Yeah it's cool. Yeah it's cool. Yeah it's cool. Yeah it's cool.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's cool. Yeah, it's cool. Yeah it's cool. Yeah, it's cool yeah it's cool.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's cool. Yeah, it's cool. Yeah it's cool. Yeah, it's cool. Yeah it's cool, yeah it's cool.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's cool, yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 3:

Yeah it's cool. Yeah it's cool. Yeah it's cool. Yeah it's cool. Yeah it's cool, yeah it's cool.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's cool, yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's cool, yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's cool, yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's cool. Yeah, I would put all my stuff down. No, y'all know I'm going to do this one, come on.

Speaker 1:

But it is a fine day, it's a really good Okay. So now you mentioned your passion for community service and empowering others. Now are there any upcoming initiatives or collaborations with organizations or any other projects that you're excited about, and how can people get involved or support these projects that you have come Well?

Speaker 3:

like I said, I'm a board member of MediHealth it's Charms, the MediHealth Foundation, and they serve to advocate for patients, engage, educate patients who are marginalized, and they're a black and brown community. You can always go on the website and make a donation. If you are a speaker of sorts or you have a topic that you can speak on, a disease process that you can speak on, we'd be glad to have you, because Wednesdays we have educational Wednesdays and it is really good information that's out there. It is on a patient level where you can truly understand it, because some of these are personal testimonies that are coming and some are from physicians. They have spoke on so many various topics and Charm herself has spoken on a couple.

Speaker 3:

Like I said, we have physicians that speak on childhood steps. There's so many Lampedema, respiratory issues. I'm also a member of the Birmingham Black Nurses Association and so one of the members has spoken a couple of times on social determinants of health when it comes to respiratory issues, and she has spoken on pulmonary issues as well, and hers basically focuses on kids because she just recently retired from Children's Hospital. So you know her background is children, but we have had patients to come on and speak on their disease processes and it is really, really informative. So, if you get an opportunity on Wednesdays on the Charms MediHealth and at CHLMS and it's a period between each word, but MediHealth M-E-D-H-E-L-P-Zorg on Wednesdays and Sandra Washington usually hosts that because she is the CEO and founder of it. So if you feel inclined, you know, make a donation. They're going to have a conference in October and it's going to be, I think, in Chicago. Shout out, Sorry, I want to be there.

Speaker 1:

You better tell them, you better tell them.

Speaker 3:

It's just kind of being shot down and I met Sandra. We were authors in the Metaverse the Stouff of Chicago Book Fair, virtual book fair, metaverse and that was an experience in and of itself. It was a great experience. If I had not met, if I had not been a part of that, I would not have met a side of Kirkland. She loves Chicago as much as you do, jackie. She is a Chicago win and she loves books, she loves reading, she loves educating people on any level, and she pushed us to the next. We're a book fair, so she is dynamic. We met a lot of different authors there and we are still in communication to this day. When I visited Chicago a couple of years ago, I met with some of the authors and we had a great time.

Speaker 1:

I am, of course, it's always the proudest, it's always the proudest, chicago honey. Yeah, it's always the proudest.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it is Now what we getting ready to hear now.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, look, look, I could play some. I could play some. We'll come back because I got a couple more questions to ask you Just going to give you toward the rest of your upcoming projects. But right now we're going to hear from a shy town artist and this is just going to kind of like relax the mood, right, because we were speaking earlier about many, many times, right, and we were talking about the way that you listen to your inspiration music, right, and things that take you into that place, right, and I think you know what place do it take you to your songs 91 Place and what place is that?

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, it takes you to the scripture. And you know your mother-in-law your mother-in-law I'm kind of right, you know she thinks that so well. You know it truly touches you. So if you are inclined to play that, I am truly inclined to live. I know you like that song. That's why I play it. I love it, I love it, I love it.

Speaker 1:

Oh, the secret place, the secret place, the secret place. I'm Ms Patricia Cox. You guys Go ahead, just listen to my mother-in-law Her debut album, the Secret Place, and it's on her own record label, psalms 91 Records.

Speaker 2:

I'm the most high dark shadow guide, under the shadow of his way, and he who dwells in the secret place of the most high dark shadow guide I'm the most high dark shadow guide under the shadow of his way. I'll say of the Lord, he is my refuge. I say of love. Here's my strength. Oh, grace and love even shall be powering me. No, it won't. No, it may She'll come near my dwelling place.

Speaker 2:

I dwell in the secret place, I dwell in the secret place, I dwell, I dwell in the secret place of the Almighty I. I dwell in the secret place, I dwell, I dwell, I dwell, I dwell in the secret place. Oh, Lord, I dwell, I dwell in the secret place of the Almighty. Oh, I say of love. Lord, you are my refuge. I say of love, you are, you are, you are my strength. No evil, no evil will devour me in no way, and no place shall come near my dwelling place, Because I dwell in the secret place. I dwell, I dwell, I dwell in the secret place. Don't you know, don't you know that I dwell, I live there, I'm still waiting for the Almighty, the Almighty, the Almighty God. I dwell in the secret place. Oh, I live there, I stay there. My joy is in the secret place. Hallelujah, hallelujah. Don't you know that I dwell in the secret place of the Almighty Gee? Oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yes, we're going to dwell over here in the secret place. And while we're dwelling in the secret place, we're going to fly above honey.

Speaker 4:

Fly above all the drama, fly above, fly above.

Speaker 4:

I'm so comfortable in the skin I'm in, I'm so curious about who I am. You can go ahead and solve all you wanna. I built up a shell and it's hard as far more. It seems like every step I take up, trauma comes along with the bread I take up. But you ain't doing nothing if you don't have haters For welcome you to do as in your nature. I'm like a jet airplane way too high to hear you throw insults on my name.

Speaker 4:

I know I'm not the only one that people love to hate. You Go and throw your hands up, go ahead and fragile wings cause you got to fly above. I fly above all the drama. I fly above, I fly above, I fly above. It's beneath me, it's beneath me, it's beneath me. So I fly above all the haters. I fly above, I fly above. I fly above. It's beneath me, it's beneath me, it's beneath me.

Speaker 4:

If everybody hating cause you fly, then go and throw your hands in the sky. If people jealous cause you live your life, then go and throw your hands in the sky. I can't even worry about when you're in security. The only thing that matters is my family and GOD, I'm a shooter top, but my feet still on the ground and when you're flying high, they just want to shoot you. I'm like a jet airplane way too high to hear you throw insults on my name. I know I'm not the only one people love to hate. You go and throw your hands up, go ahead and fragile wings cause you got to fly above. I fly above all the drama. I fly above, I fly above. I fly above. It's beneath me, it's beneath me, it's beneath me. So I fly above all the haters. I fly above, I fly above. I fly above. It's beneath me, it's beneath me, it's beneath me. Oh, you haters, you don't win beneath my wings, you just make me fly higher, higher, higher.

Speaker 2:

You just make me fly, make me fly higher, make me fly higher, higher. You just make me fly, make me fly higher. I'm like a jet airplane way too high to hear you throw insults on my name. I know I'm not the only one people love to hate. You go and throw your hands up, go ahead and fragile wings cause you got to fly above. I fly above all the drama. I fly above, I fly above. I fly above. It's beneath me, it's beneath me, it's beneath me. So I fly above all the haters. I fly above. Ah, ah, fly above, ah, fly above. It's beneath me, it's beneath me, it's beneath me, my, my.

Speaker 1:

Yes, what you think about that song, miss Carolyn?

Speaker 3:

Well, they can be, and If you're trying to read this or go, you you're gonna have to let some people go and it's disappointing on some level. Um, you know, you question yourself, you question them, you question emotives, but you know, I thought why don't you guys let it go? Just let it go, you know, because you have somewhere to go. You know you have something to do. You, you know you can't stop me, you can't stop my flow. You can't stop my flow. I, once you've just done taking too many swipes, what I call draw blood. When you draw blood, I'll let you draw first blood. So I'm 34, for sure, you know, but now for a while, I'm like I gotta let you go, you know you know, yeah, yeah, you know.

Speaker 3:

But so you have to ask can this thing? You got a fly ball.

Speaker 1:

You got a honey, you got a fly, and you know I was gonna say in addition to your work as a motivational speaker, can you give us a glimpse into any other exciting projects or ventures that you have planned for the future, any hints or teases from any books that you can share with us tonight?

Speaker 3:

Well, um, there, there's a project that I'm very, very excited about and it's the she said yes to herself on apologetically um empowerment guide and it's just some phenomenal women that's. On that project, our visionary is Shania Wesley Coleman and she is really Putting a lot of work. I have been a part I cannot not mention doctor on Paula Harper. She was the first Visionary one, the first anthology I was a part of now she had done several before then, but she just put me at E About the project and so I have to just take my head off to drP. Everything she said that was going to happen happen. And so she did Intermittent coaching sessions with us as a group. You know it was the zoom and everything, but it worked. And I was just so surprised that it worked and it came together the way that she said and I Don't compare people because we all have different personalities and things of that nature but but Chanel is truly a move in a groover. As well she may be, she is moving like she's always thinking, and you have to.

Speaker 3:

You know, when you want something to come off correctly and you have attached your name to it, you should want that quality product. You should definitely want that quality product. But one thing about an anthology it has you to Kind of. You know, fiction is fiction. I mean, it is something to play with, it's something to you can manipulate it the way you want it to manipulate. But when you're talking nonfiction and you're speaking about yourself, you kind of have to undress and undress, you kind of have to bear your soul and you have to be very, very vulnerable to put yourself out there.

Speaker 3:

And there was some really powerful stories in that anthology and that was called the breaking point. Now it's been a little over a year since that one was relieved. The breaking point my life required to shift and you have to. And that's really what it is, what was, and some people would say, well, I didn't break, but I sure had to do a lot of bending, you know, but you still had to ship. You had to shift from that trauma or that life situation that came up Unexpectedly, that you had to move forward. You still had to make that shift. So the stories were very, very great and very, very powerful and I look for some powerful stories to come out of this. She said, yes, unapologetically, empowerment, god is. Well, I have started them.

Speaker 3:

The, the podcast on amp, I have put another one on hold. Well, it's been on hold for about six months to a year and I Did not just did not have the time to put into it and because someone asked me what's he had done to start it, I'm like you know, I mean, if it's not Started, you know I'm not gonna do that. I have to feel comfortable in it and with the amp I cast is, you know, for lack of a better term, it seems like more relax, a little bit more versatility, that can be more diverse. But the original show, which is still going to be and you know it was going to be a variety of things and a variety of topics as well, not just From a reader standpoint or anything reading related, and you can still have that. I can still have the same thing on amp and I've started lining up people to calm, but I'm just Taking people on my walking journey, my line dance journey. I did a backyard party on Sunday for Labor Day because I was over to a friend's house and I Did that as well. So it's just a work in progress.

Speaker 3:

And my book of short stories it's probably going to turn into two book of short stories, but I found. I find them, as as you start writing, you always put it, I always put a twist here, twist there. You know, retweet this, retweet that, and it seems to be coming together pretty good. One of the titles is churchy. You know, I told you one of the titles is left, but and churchy is about church, church folks, and Because I grew up in the church, you know. So, yeah, you know, and not bashing anybody, it's just the kids perspective, your perspective what went down?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, exactly so yeah, yeah, and from a child. You know, starting from a child perspective and how I grew in the church, and so it's Comical and shake your head at the same time. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

People get a miscan screw when, when we speak on Experiences inside the church right, because that's really religious people they take it as we're bashing the church. No, we're not Ashing the place of work, we're bashing at it all. And I call them the patience because you coming in to get a healing from Christ. You're coming in as a center, so we're not bashing or Making a mockery or speaking bad upon the church. No, that's like talking bad about a hospital. They got all the tools there. No, that's not what's happening.

Speaker 1:

What we're seeing is we're given our perspective and our experiences as children of Christ inside of the church and what we're Experiencing from other patients that are in there to get healing as well. We experience trauma in the church. We experience hurt in the church. The same way we would experience if we go to the hospital and we sit in the waiting room for Patients who are in dire need of services. You're gonna hear a holler and scream. You gonna see some fighting different patients. Oh, you jumped in front of me, it's my turn. You called it pert before you called me. How you gonna take they testimony over mine. I want to sing a song. Hmm, yeah me when.

Speaker 1:

I'm lying, stop me.

Speaker 3:

Real, though. For real though, I mean, that has happened. I hope there's not my son in my car, because sometimes my iPhone jumps to my car. Are you still there, janki?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm still here. I'm trying to From, and you know I'm trying to read a little bit of churchy.

Speaker 3:

Can I read a little church?

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes, you can.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

And While she's doing that, I will say that I will not take any form of disrespect or disregard to me, my family or anybody else. Okay, I am fully dressed in my profile picture. I this is not one of those Things where you can get on here and disrespect me, my marriage, anybody that's here. I do not play those games and you will not only be Reported, you will be removed from my room and blocked. Okay, so only morale. Yes, my husband know about my profile picture and you ain't got to tell him nothing Because he already know his wife and you know what he gets. So I don't need you and your compliment. You could take it and move it to a single woman. Thank you, and you have a blessed night and no longer into the listen, linda Rome. Okay, thank you and have a blessed day.

Speaker 3:

Let it go, baby, let it go. Let it go, go, let it go. Okay, you ready for me.

Speaker 1:

Look, don't, don't get it, miss cuz proof.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, please, please don't. When I was about five or six years old, naturally, I had to sit next to my mom in In church. This lady sat beside me and she had this thing around her shoulders. It looked like two squirrels or foxes, and they were held together as though they had bit each other. I Invision them waking up and chasing each other around in a circle around her, and I was terrified. I could not breathe Normally, my breath was tight. I Did not want them to wake up and start chasing me. What was the purpose of her wearing that thing? I just couldn't understand it.

Speaker 3:

What is the musician boy from the back of the church, as opposed to coming out the quad room with the clock Because he has on a new suit? Oh, he looks good in it. That is not the pattern. He has to be seen. He is a great musician. He can sing as well as play. Lord, he can make that organ stand up. He reminds me of a cross between Fred Hammons and James Cleveland. I love to hear him sing and when he does a musical solo, I imagine that Lord just loving the praise. I can imagine that he's a great musician. He's a great musician. He's a great musician. He's a great musician. He's a great musician. He's a great musician. He's a great musician. He's a great musician. I can imagine him and some of our lead singers being celebrities. They were so talented. They have blessed us so many occasions in song and they have never disappointed us.

Speaker 1:

Okay, that came from churchy and where can one coming out and where can they come?

Speaker 3:

I'm hoping by the end of the year and it will be published by paper, deep publishing. That's my girl.

Speaker 3:

I look way too far yeah it's going to be published by her and I'm hoping that it'll be ready by the end of the year. I know I'm a hold up on some of this, but as I think about something, then I make a title and I start on it again. I have this little favorite saying ain't nobody's studying you, ain't nobody's studying you. You better do what you have to do because ain't nobody's studying you. Those are for the people pleasers. Those are for the people pleasers. But you can't always please people. You're just hands.

Speaker 3:

My best friend will always say what's your word? Ain't nobody's studying you. So you need to write a chapter on ain't nobody's studying you. And I'm like you are funny. But guess what I did? I did I'm trying to find it now, but it's a little humor just like Churchie and the little girl afraid because that woman comes in with this fake fur around her neck or shoulders and she thinks those animals are going to wake up and start chasing her because she doesn't know what they are. So I guess it's a decorative piece that they used to wear back in the day. I don't know. I'm just glad my mom didn't have one of those things. I just don't know how I would have acted in that, so I don't know why ain't nobody's studying you, because I'm trying to pull it up now.

Speaker 1:

And while you're pulling it up, I want to go ahead because I want to play one more. So while you're pulling up, ain't nobody's studying you, we're going to say hate on me, hate her, because ain't nobody's studying you.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, that's good, that's good.

Speaker 2:

The world on a silver platter? Would it even matter? You're still being mad at me. If I can find it on this, it doesn't want this, which I would give to you. You're still being miserable here.

Speaker 2:

Reality, I'm gonna be who I be and I don't feel no fault for the lies that you bought. You can try as you may break me down, but I say that that ain't up to you. I'm gonna do what you do. Hate on me. Hate her now or later, because you're gonna do me the same. Baby. Go ahead and hate her. Go ahead and hate on me. Hate her. I'm afraid of what I got to pay for. You can hate on me. Oh, if I gave you teachers out of my own garden and I made you a peach car, would you select me, I wonder? If I gave you journals out of my own, would you feel the love in that? Or ask why not the moon? If I gave you sanity for the whole of humanity, had all the solutions for the pain and pollution. No matter where I live, despite the things I give, you'll always be this way. So go ahead and hate on me. Hate her. I'm gonna do what you do. Hate on me, hate her, I'm going to do it, baby. Go ahead and hate her. Go ahead and hate on me. Hate her. I'm not afraid of what I got to pay for. You can hate on me.

Speaker 2:

Hate on me, hate her now or later, because you're gonna do me the same. We can make it go head and hay. Go head and hay on me. Hay, now, I'm not afraid of If I got a paper. You can hang on me. Hang on me. Put my mind as free. Feel my destiny, so shelf in me. We can make it go head and hay. Hang on me. Put my mind as free. Feel my destiny, so shell me be. You can hang on me. Hang on Now. No way there's a gun to me. So make it baby. Go ahead and hang on me. Hang on, I got my freedom. I got my freedom. You can hang on me.

Speaker 1:

Hey, hey, don't me, hey da, and take whoever sent the devil on, take them all with ya, hey da. Did you find the Carolyn Coleman Gentry? Did you find the chapter?

Speaker 3:

I'm sorry, I did find it Okay. Dad got out of bed. All he did was come in, pull out a chair and sit down. He was protecting me. They tried to gang up on me and I told them I don't need any help. I will take the two of you on. My dad had to come and referee.

Speaker 3:

I felt horrible. He was supposed to be resting, not dealing with our foolishness. Well, they were not studying me nor him that day. That was more than obvious. His well-being was not at their top priority. The point was there were three boys. He hadn't found him. How long after Dad turned 17? Whenever did he get rest? Iam, maybe more Next time. He wasn't sleep Immediately after dad got into bed. He didn't deal with it. They were not studying me nor him that day. That was more than obvious. His well-being was not at their top priority.

Speaker 3:

Ruby called back a few days, wanted to check. I had some chains and started jiggling near the phone and played my pre-recorded message saying Ruby, ruby, I'm coming for you. I was spitting your face. Ruby wanted to know what's going on. What do you mean, ruby? What's that noise? What noise? It's just me and you. What's going on? I was in a struggle not to laugh. Ruby's voice started trembling. I got to go. I'll talk to you later. Okay, I hang up. Her heart is not clean. A hit dog will bark.

Speaker 3:

How did that bleach get in my dress? That was really pretty dress, casual enough to run errands and dressy enough for the office. I received plenty of compliments regarding that dress. I had the perfect pair of shoes and necklace for it. I told the guy I was dating about the bleach dress. He suggested well, maybe you did by accident. No, I did not. I used very little bleach and I keep bleach away and it's always under the same, nowhere near my clothes. It was no accident, it was intentionally done. I said to myself Ruby did it, ruby did it. So I'm going to stop it right there. That's one portion of Ain't Nobody.

Speaker 1:

And these are all from your compel list of short stories that's coming up in your next project, correct? Yes, ma'am, okay, and can you tell people where they can find you and where they can locate? Do you have this available for pre-order? Not yet.

Speaker 3:

We're still fine-tuning it. We're still fine-tuning it, so I don't have it available for pre-order, but I will let you know. So you can find my. On my website you can find basically anything I'm doing CPWbrookshellcom, and you can follow me on Facebook under Carolyn Colman.

Speaker 1:

And on.

Speaker 3:

Instagram. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I was going to say in your AMP name and your Entry's Journey, entry's.

Speaker 3:

Journey, not AMP, not AMP Entry's Journey, and on Instagram I'm Carolyn. Underscore offer Okay, and is there anything else you?

Speaker 1:

want to add? Okay, and is there anything else you would like to address the audience with before we end in prayer?

Speaker 3:

I have really appreciated the interview. Thank you, jackie, so much for having me. Thank you for the audience for participating and listening. I do appreciate it. I don't count it lightly when people give me their time. Honestly, I don't, because you could be doing so many other things out there. So thank you, thank you so much for that.

Speaker 1:

And we thank you so much for joining and sharing your insights, was thus as well, Gentry. Look, I call her Gentry. I'll put Carolyn.

Speaker 1:

Thank you for all your continued support and we look forward to having you join us in the near future. Until then, keep y'all ears ready and y'all dancing shoes on standby. Okay, so it's time, you know, for our end in prayer. Gracious God, oh, heavenly Father, as we conclude this episode of listen Linda, shall we carry Carolyn Coleman, the let it go coach. We offer our heartfelt thanks to the profound wisdom and guidance that she has shared with us today. We are grateful for the lessons learned, the inspiration received and the transformation power of letting go. May the seeds of change planet in our hearts today continue to grow and blossom more, father, allowing us to release what no longer serves us and embrace a life of freedom, happiness and fulfillment.

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