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Listen Linda! Hosted by Jacquiline Cox
Dead Girl Walking, Living Woman Writing
What happens when a Navy veteran with a PhD in psychology turns novelist? Stories that heal, characters who transform, and readers who find themselves within the pages.
Dr. Audrey Ann Moses doesn't just write fiction—she creates psychological roadmaps disguised as compelling stories. In this heartfelt conversation with Dr. Jacqueline Cox, Moses reveals how her eight published novels, including the "Saved by Grace" series and "Earl Grey Chronicles," each tackle specific mental health challenges through vibrant, authentic characters.
"I let my characters write themselves," Moses explains, describing her immersive approach to developing personalities like Jane Doe from "Dead Girl Walking"—a woman whose parents named her as a cruel joke, marking her entire existence as a mistake. Through Jane's journey, readers witness the painful struggle to escape "living in the muck" and the transformative power of realizing "there is light outside the tunnel."
The conversation takes us behind the writer's curtain, exploring Moses' journey from reluctant journaler (who once burned five years of diaries from her darkest times) to published author. Her turning point came through a friend's challenge: "How do you know nobody wants to read your words if you don't give them the chance?"
Moses' unique blend of psychological expertise and deep faith infuses her approach to storytelling and her work as a Christian life coach. "Without God, nothing happens correctly," she reflects, while explaining her coaching philosophy of "unsticking" people rather than creating dependency.
Whether you're struggling with your own writing journey, searching for authentic representation of mental health in fiction, or simply craving stories with genuine spiritual depth, Dr. Moses offers wisdom that extends far beyond the page. Her mission? Creating books where readers see themselves, find practical solutions, and witness characters evolving across generations—breaking chains of negativity at their core.
Ready to turn your story into a bestselling book? Don't miss the 21-Day Author Bootcamp starting August 1st. Visit listenlinda1.com to secure your spot and transform your manuscript into a published legacy.
Her hands were soft but they were strong. Her voice, gentle but full of power. She didn't wear a cape, she wore a sweater that smelled like Sunday morning pancakes and prayer. She taught us more than just how to tie our shoes. She taught us how to stand tall when life tries to knock us down. And now it's our turn to tell the world, featuring real stories from real women from every background and every corner of the world, because love like this has no borders. Because when Grandma speaks, the world listens. Join the Grandma's Hands Anthology and give your grandma an ode she can be proud of and one your legacy will be known for for generations to come. Contact Dr Jacqueline Cox for more information.
Speaker 2:A portion of the proceeds will go towards the Walk for Lupus Now Foundation. Hello, hello, hello, all right, y'all, we are back with this next episode of the 25 Awesome Authors, and today we have coming back to the stage one of my favorite people in the world, dr Audrey Ann Moses.
Speaker 2:Now y'all know, before we jump into today's episode, you already know how we do over here. Okay, know how we do over here. Okay, don't be alarmed, it's all me, my real hair, okay. Okay, I was not in the mood today, okay. So I just kind of fluffed it out and said what they see is what they gonna get, okay, so if you don't like it, change, okay, all right. So y'all know how we do over here. We keep God first and everything. So let's open this up with a little prayer for this space. Thank you for this platform and for this awesomely, awesomely, awesomely divine connection. I ask that you bless this conversation today and let it be led by your holy spirit, lord god, use dr audrey Ann's words to heal, uplift and break chains off somebody listening. Let this be more than an interview. Let it be a ministry, and for every heart that's tuning in, lord God, I pray they receive exactly what they didn't even know that they was going to get. Okay, in Jesus' mighty name, amen.
Speaker 4:Amen amen.
Speaker 2:All right. So welcome back, fam, to another anointed episode of Listen Linda Book Club. I am your host, Dr Jacqueline Cox, your literary midwife, purpose pusher and the woman who believes your story ain't over just because it's missing. Okay, Today's guest is somebody you guys really need to lean in and pay attention to. Dr Audrey Ann Moulton is not just an author, she is a force. Her book, James Journey, A Journal of Transformation, is not just pages, y'all, it's power, it's healing and it's testimony. And for every woman who's ever asked can something good still come from this? Let's welcome the one and only my mama, Audrey. Dr Audrey Ann Mullin.
Speaker 4:Hello everybody, how you doing, how you doing. It's a wonderful day here and I am just so pleased to be in the midst of Miss Dr Jackie Cox. You know I call her Jackie Linda, and so because she's my baby girl and I love her, and so and I love her, jackie Cox, and I love her her vision of listen, linda, you know, when you first see it you think it's going to be a bunch of gossip and everything. But no, no, we don't gossip, not really. We don't gossip, not really. So we, we talk about real things and we talk about real incidences and and how God has pulled us out of the muck more than once and I really enjoy being with her in a personal setting and on air. So, good morning, darling, I love you. How's things going with you?
Speaker 2:good morning, darling. I love you. How's things going with you? So for the people who don't know you and it may not be a lot of them, because anybody who followed me know you, honey, because you've been here since day one but for the people who don't, explain a little bit about who you are and what it is that you do, I am a Christian life coach and I am an author.
Speaker 4:I've written eight novels and several anthology chapters. I have posted in magazines, including Listener to magazine, and I do workshops for anything dealing with personal growth and transition. I am a psychologist by education, if you're interested in knowing about that. I am a psychologist by education. I taught psychology at Hampton University in Hampton, virginia, and at Piedmont Technical College in Greenwood, south Carolina. I'm retired United States Navy, always a sailor. I completed 22 and a half years of honorable service. I completed 22 and a half years of honorable service and I'm just happy. You know I have a husband. I have four adult children, 10 grands and two great grands and you know life is good. It's good. I you know I love it. You know God has been good to me through all of these years. You know.
Speaker 2:And I know he has more in store for me and so I just love living life. Praise God Well in the Navy before stepping into full time. You know ministry and writing.
Speaker 4:How did that discipline and service shape your voice as an author and as a counselor? Well, to be honest, um, you know how you do those personality tests so they can see, um, you know if you are. Um, you know what do. They used to call it a, a type a or type z or whatever. Well, I, I had enough of discipline to not get kicked out of the Navy. You know, I had enough discipline. And see, people don't understand. Yeah, people don't understand that.
Speaker 4:You know, I grew up in a disciplined environment. My mom was an authoritarian she wrote the book on authoritarian. My mom was an authoritarian, she wrote the book on authoritarian, and so. So, my mom was an authoritarian and she and so when I joined the Navy, I told my boot camp commander. I said there is nothing you can do or say to me that is going to make me be any, be more afraid than my mama. So just bring it on, you know, just bring it on. You know so, um, so, but you know, I love the Navy and I learned how to be a grown-up because I joined the Navy when I was 19.
Speaker 4:Um, and I learned how to be a grownup and I learned how to say what I had to say, without being mean and ugly and without cursing, and, you know, without, without being showing my fear.
Speaker 4:Now, sometimes I did show fear, you know, depending on what the situation was, but I learned how to communicate in a way that everybody understood what I meant and what you will do. It's like my children. I always said please, and thank you, and yes, sir, to them, and yes, ma'am, and. And people would say why do you do that? You know they're not adults. I said no, but I'm teaching them how to be adults and I'm teaching them to understand that I'm not asking their permission. Even now, my children are grown and I will and I will ask them to do something own and I will ask them to do something. But in their mind, they know that I'm asking them, but this is something I need for them to do, and so they know, they recognize that authority in me and I appreciate it please, ma'am, please, ma'am, yes, please, ma'am, or please, sir, but it's still in the way, like I'm not asking.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm telling you, but I'm going to do it in a respectful way, where you still know, and that's how we are here. You know, we're the same way with our kids and our kids, no matter where they go somebody say something to them and you know this for fact, jayden say, um, yes, ma'am. If you ask them a question, yes, ma'am, no ma'am, yeah, they're yes, sir, no, sir, yes, ma'am, no, no, um, no, ma'am, um, anytime they address an adult, it's always ma'am or sir. And if they don't?
Speaker 4:my grown kids, my grown kids, my grown I have grown grandchildren and they all, they all know.
Speaker 4:And so in my books, starting with Saved by Grace, I wrote the books so that people will understand this is real life, so that people will understand this is real life. You know, yes, it's fiction, yes, the names are made up, yes, the situation is made up, but the facts are facts. You know, the different things that happen in the books are things that happen in real life, with the consequences of real life consequences of it. And I wrote it that way because I wanted people to be able to understand how life is from a psycho, psychological standpoint, you know. So if, if, if somebody has anger issues, these are the things that will occur.
Speaker 4:Um, and each one of my books I have eight books and each one of my books has one or two psychological issues in them and showing how it occurs, showing what it looks like and showing what the results are in real life. You know, and so you know, I'm having fun writing them, because I'm writing from my own voice, but I'm making sure that each character has its own voice, you know, and its own, its own person, and so so I've been having fun writing my books.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. I know you have because I've had fun reading them. So I know you had fun right. And while we are, I'm glad you mentioned saved by grace, so you're saved by grace series and the earl gray chronicle started back in 1997. For those of y'all who don't know, I was eight years old yeah okay, and it started back as a creative writing writing class manuscript that I'm project. And when did you first realize that writing was more than an assignment to you but a calling?
Speaker 4:well, I always was a writer, always from a child. I always kept a journal, you, you know. I have now in a box somewhere a portfolio I made of pictures of different events that happened throughout my life, you know, and I did it as things occurred, you know, and I have little writings in there. I have a paper that I saved from. I got an A on in my writing, you know, english class or something, and so I've always kept a journal all my life and I've always loved to read all my life.
Speaker 4:So I knew that I wanted to write. I just didn't allow myself to accept that that is something I really could do, you know. So I did it in private, you know, and I used to read like memoirs of different people and I would hear about, you know, somebody died and or didn't die, and their kids found their journals and had them published and it was like, oh my God, no, no, no. So I think five of my journals I had, I burned them because they were dark times in my life and and so it was about five or six years that I burned because I did not want anybody to publish them later, you know, and because it was a really dark time in my life and um, and every time I went back, you know, you say you write a journal so that you can go back and see how much you've grown. And I understood that and I would go back and read it and I would. I could see how much I've grown, but I could also see that that maybe I'm still there, you know. And so I said I'm not going to. So I burned them so I wouldn't keep reliving that life, and and so that nobody else would bring it out, you know. So I figured I would burn my dirt, send it back to dirt and leave it there, you know, and so, but when I really learned that it is possible to actually be an author, I I did a portion of my dissertation and a really good friend of mine, dr Kenneth Mafuka, was a professor, he was a history professor at Lander College here in Greenwood, south Carolina.
Speaker 4:My dissertation, which was a thesis about mentorship and comparing the mentorship practices of the Maasai tribe in Africa with African-American Black men and how these two groups of men mentored their boys, and it was, it was phenomenal. You know, dr Mafuka helped me with the research, the African research, and you know we did the American research and it was phenomenal to see the difference and how they're mentored and the progression of the Maasai tribe as opposed to the progression of the African-American male side, and why there was such a big difference. So anyway, I published it in a book and it became his textbook for his history class at the university. So that's the first book that I actually published and that was 2010. And so then, you know, I didn't do anything else after that and I show a really good friend of mine, who was my coach, a copy of the manuscript I had written, which eventually became Saved by Grace, and if you have read the book, that manuscript is the first chapter called the Restaurant, you know. And so I showed her that and she was like, why aren't you writing this in a book and publishing it? Because my professor told me that it was ready. You know, all I had to do was just add more to it and publishing it. Because my professor told me that all that it was ready. You know, all I had to do was just add more to it and publish it.
Speaker 4:But in 1997 I didn't. I was like, oh, thank you so much, you know, and just put it in a drawer and left it there, you know, and back then, um, self self-publishing was, was becoming a, but it wasn't a thing yet, you know, it was becoming a thing and back then you had to rely on brick and mortars and you had to rely on people that decided if your book was good enough. And I didn't want to go through that. I did not want to go through somebody that don't know me, that don't know what I've been through, don't know why I wrote the book the way I did, to say, oh well, nobody's going to read this book and send it back with a denied stamp on it, you know. So I just left it in the drawer and my friend said, I told her, I said don't nobody want to read my words? And she said how do you know that? And I'm like what do you mean? She said how do you know nobody wants to read your words if you don't give it to them to read? Right, you know? How do you know? You're assuming that nobody wants to read your words because of your own fears. You're not giving people an opportunity to tell you whether they want to read your words or not.
Speaker 4:So after that I had been duly admonished, you know, beaten, beaten with a switch, you know. And so I, you know, I wrote the book and I published the book. Then my publisher was Kelly Publishers. Her name is Kelly Cruz, she lives in Pennsylvania and she helped me publish my book. And back then it was not KDP on Amazon, it was Create Space, create Space. And so, yeah, it was Create Space, yeah, it was Create Space. And so she did it for me and I sold a lot of books and I was like, wow, and people were coming back, people read the book and they were like, wait a minute, what happened to so-and-so?
Speaker 4:Wade was one of the main characters in the book, and so it was like, well, what happened to Wade? I said, what do you mean? Because I think I'm done. You know, I'm not getting ready to write. I wrote a book, praise God, I wrote a book, I'm published, library of Congress has my book, I'm good, yeah.
Speaker 4:And so then they were like, no, no, you got to write another book because we got to know what happened to Wade. I'm like, why? So that's, that's, how come I wrote the story of Wade, you know. So so I wrote Jackie, give me a second, I'm going to show these. This is. This was my first book Saved by Grace, and it's still on Amazon and I still have copies, obviously, that you can get autographed. But this is Saved by Grace, my first book.
Speaker 4:And then I had to write about Wade, so I had to write Wade's story. So so I wrote Wade's story and and yes, that's the link you can get him autographed. And so I wrote about Wade. And then, you know, as I wrote my other books, then the same thing happened. It's like, wait a minute, what happened to so-and-so? You know so my other series was, you Like, unenlightited Memories and the State of Affairs, and so they were like what happened with Scotty, because he got on my last nerve, so I need to know what did they do with him, you know. So I had to write another book, you know. So you know.
Speaker 4:I'm really grateful. Every time I see Denise, yeah, I hug her neck because if it wasn't for her, none of these books would be written now. Thank you, kelly.
Speaker 2:Hey girl, thank you, Kelly girl, we appreciate it. Yes, yes, yes, now you write both fiction and therapeutic narratives like Jane's Journey right, which is one of my favorites Dead Girl Walking.
Speaker 4:Dead Girl Walking.
Speaker 2:How do you balance storytelling with counseling, so each character becomes more than just a plot point?
Speaker 4:Because in I'm looking now I had it sitting right here. But anyway, um, with dead girl walking I started writing dead girl. I wrote dead girl walking because my friend, dr Rhonda Lawson, wanted to do a back to the Renaissance fiction storytelling and so she did an anthology. That is an awesome anthology. I think I have it here, maybe not, maybe not, but anyway she wrote this. She started this anthology called A Renaissance of. It was like a narrative of Black fiction authors and we each had a chapter and she said we could write about anything we wanted. She didn't really care what the what. She didn't care. She didn't want our topics to all be about the same thing.
Speaker 2:So, so just I was writing Type of thing right, Just digest chicken soup for the soul, type of thing.
Speaker 4:Exactly, exactly, exactly, just like that Chicken Soup for the Soul. So I was writing the story of Wade at the time and I had gotten kind of stuck because my daughter-in-law passed away and my daughter-in-law and I were kind of talking about what we were going to do with Wade, you know, and then my daughter-in-law passed away and it kind of like shook me really, really bad, you know, and so you know the fact that she died she was only 26 and how she died 26 and how she died, you know, it just really shook me and so I couldn't write Wade it. You know, it was like almost a year before I got back to writing Wade. Wade took me a long time to write because of that, you know, I just my brain just wouldn't work with Wade anymore. So when Dr Rhonda came with her anthology, I was like, okay, well, maybe I can write something different, you know. And so I just started writing about.
Speaker 4:I came up with the title. I was like title. I was like Dead Girl Walking and what's in a name? About a girl whose parents named her Jane Doe, you know, and spelled it Jane Doe, with J-A-N-E-D-O-A-H to make it seem as though it was something different. And you know I was thinking about how I was teaching at Hampton University at the time, I think, 2018. No, I was living here teaching at Piedmont Tech, and I was.
Speaker 4:You know. You look at your roster and you have all of these crazy names. You know that parents, especially with the girls, but even with the boys some of these crazy names that the parents have named their children, and if you, and if you pronounce them phonetically, it came out to be Jane Doe, you know, or something worse, you know. And so so I started writing about that and I and I wrote about this young lady whose parents first of all, her parents identified her as a mistake because she was a lot younger than their last child and they they just wasn't planning on having any more children and um, but they kept doing what you do to have children and so, and so here she came and they consider her a mistake. They treated her like she was a mistake and they named her like she was a mistake.
Speaker 4:And and that's how the story started with Jane Doe about what happens when your parents, you know, name you an awful name and treat you like that awful name, you know, and her siblings treated her like that awful name and they allowed other people in the world to treat her like you know. And so that's what dead girl walking is all about. That's how it starts, that's what it goes through. She lived in New Orleans, so it was an appropriate name for the area that she lives in. So it was an appropriate name for the area that she lives in, and, um, there's even a, there's even a part in there where she got asked to be a member of a crew on the float for Mardi Gras, and but she found out that the only reason they asked her is but because her name is Jane Doe, they wanted to dress her up like a dead girl walking. And so, you know, and she went through her life with that stigma and that criticism on her.
Speaker 2:You know, throughout the book of Jane's of dead girl walking james, um of um dead girl walking now me and you both. But I want to say you've probably been um, um, an arthur coach longer than I have, and what I mean by arthur coach not like a certified arthur coach or anything like that we always got people yeah, I am book or kind of inquiring about, uh, writing a book and and all those. So, as an author coach, what's the number one tip that you give writers who feel like their story is just not worth telling or that they K-A-I-N-T, they can't yeah.
Speaker 4:Can't, they can't.
Speaker 2:How do you?
Speaker 4:use that. Well, yeah, my, you know, my coaching businesses never say can't you know C-A-I-N-T? And? And I tell them my story. That's basically.
Speaker 4:You know, testimonies are awesome because you don't get a testimony without a test and and your testimony, your testimony, comes about because you are either walking through it now and you are seeing the results, or you have walked through it and you can tell what the end story is, you know, of that test, so, so I always use my testimony about, you know, what Denise told me, because if she had not said that to me, I would not be an author, I would not have met you, I would not have met Dr Laquita or Dr Velma or us got together.
Speaker 4:I have, I have, um, I have met so many authors, so many authors um, men and women, and they have all become my family. You know, and um, and that would never have happened if I had not listened to the counsel of Denise, you know, and so, um, so I tell people my story and I let them know that, um, that God is good and God puts everything in place when it's supposed to be in place, you know, and if God has put her volumes, volumes of journals that she has, of poems that she has written and a book that she has written about her life, that she that has been sitting in on the shelf in a drawer in a box somewhere all her life, just like I did. You know, my first four books I wrote with stuff that I had sitting around already, you know, and so so, yes, yeah, so yeah, I'm a.
Speaker 2:I'm a original poet and spoken word artist. I get into actually writing actual books until mountains can rise without earthquakes, and even with every single thing that I write, I always incorporate poetry, because that's that's my foundation, that's where I come from, so I had a lot of poetry over the years that I kind of repurposed and just wrote it a little different here and there. But that's how it Can't Always Be. Night was birthed.
Speaker 2:It was birthed through poetry that I had over the course, since I was five years old, all the way up until now. So I definitely understand that and I know you're talking about. Hey, Amanda girl, she's going to be featured in an edition of Listen to Linda magazine and I'm so excited to have her.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, she's phenomenal, her stuff. Her stuff is passionate, you know, when you read her it is passionate, you know, and I know that her words, it's like when I read Melanie's words. Oh, my goodness, I'm just like I'm laughing and I'm crying and.
Speaker 2:I'm hurting and I want to fight somebody you know, yes, she's the voice for real, she is.
Speaker 4:Yeah, she is a voice for real you got it, baby.
Speaker 2:You mad too. She in love with something.
Speaker 4:Tell Melanie we got our lipstick on.
Speaker 2:Melanie Johnson, because you know, she told me the other day on her live y'all she said her mama always told her it don't matter what you do in the world, you don't got to put on no makeup, you don't got to do nothing, but you never let nobody without someone. So, baby, because you know y'all, sometimes I don't care, I get on here and I say what I got to say and I say peace. But not today, melanie.
Speaker 2:I make sure, from now on, if I don't do nothing else, I'll put something on these okay in my office.
Speaker 4:So I don't forget it yeah, me too in my drawer, but, but we got hours on. But, um, but um, I I really I I love being an author coach, my, my, my good sister, my good sister, um, um leticia warner, um perry leticia warner, per Warner Perry and Jackie has met her as well um Leticia Leticia, um has really helped me with a lot of things because, um, you know, she helps me with my, my admin stuff and things like that. But and she is Dr Letitia Perry and Dr Letitia no, she's Letitia Warren on Facebook.
Speaker 4:So right on Facebook, look her up. Look her up on Facebook, dr Letitia Warren, and so. But you know, she is always encouraging me and I remember when she was writing her first book she asked me about being an author Cause. She said aren't you an author coach? I didn't even know what that really was. I was like, no, I don't think. So she says where you help other people to um, write their books, and I'm like I'm barely writing my own book, so so you know, she was the one that introduced me to being a coach and she said I would. She said I would be a great coach, and so again, I took somebody else's word for it and I really do like it.
Speaker 4:And I have had some people that I'm like Dr Rhonda Larson would say. I've had some people that take, take my advice and use it, you know, and then go in a different direction. You know I have had that happen, you know. So I had a young man that came to me and I kind of told him what he needed to do, and I showed him what he needed to do, but when he saw how much it was going to cost, he went a different direction and and and it didn't turn out well for him and I'm not talking bad, I'm trying not to talk bad but he published his book but all the same, errors were in it. All the formatting was wrong, it was. It was horrible, you know. And so he paid somebody $3 because he didn't want to pay me $7, you know. And he paid somebody $3 and they gave him $3 worth of work, you know, and so that's what happens, yeah, but that's what happens. But I was glad to say that I at least gave him some information. But, you know, I have had the privilege of working with people and helping them to format their stuff and it came out well, so I was happy about that.
Speaker 4:I also help with dissertations and thesis, because I did thesis With my master's degree and all my hair fell out and I did a doctorate. You know, when I did my doctorate, you know it was a full doctorate, it was. It was tedious, you know. It took me two years to get all my classwork and everything done, and then it took me, you know, almost another year to get my research done and to get my paper written for my, for my dissertation, and, and you know, oh, you know, and when you have to do your defense. It was crazy. It was crazy and I had to do all my stuff online, including the defense. So I needed help and I asked for help and I had other people to help me to make sure my paperwork was right, to make sure, you know, my APA was right, and and so um.
Speaker 4:So I'm happy to help people that are working on their thesis and working on their doctorates and um, getting ready for their dissertations, you know, and because, because I know how nerve wracking it can be and so so, so I I enjoy doing that and and I try to stay within the world that I understand, you know. So you know, if you're going to, if you need to do some writing about neurosurgery, I'm. I can make sure the words are spelled right, but that's about it. You know, I can't tell you if your facts are right or not, but I can make sure the words are spelled right. You know so. But you know I enjoy doing that.
Speaker 4:So I enjoy helping authors. I enjoy helping high school. I haven't really worked with high school um students, but I do work with college students with their writing their papers and writing their um in intern, um, uh, information, whatever it is. They have to do with college and um, you know, upper level work, and then I'm just doing my writing. I wrote, I've done five, six anthologies and, like I said, I love writing magazine articles. So I do that for two different magazines. We're not going to talk about her, okay. We're not going to talk about her, okay. We're not going to talk about Listen, linda magazine, because it's an awesome magazine. It's an awesome magazine, but that editor, we love her. We love her Very lightly, ma'am.
Speaker 2:Very lightly, ma'am yeah.
Speaker 4:It's an awesome magazine magazine and the editor is awesome because you know she, she definitely is patient with me and I know she's patient with the other art, with um. You know other contributors, the other authors and um. Dr colada davis is also spreading the gospel magazine. She does a magazine called Divine Women. It's a digital magazine and she does a magazine called Arthur's Voice and so I write for those, for her, and I just really enjoy it because I get to put my words out more and more and I'm getting more and more comfortable. So the more you do it, the more comfortable you become with it and I pray and ask God to tell me what people might want to know about so that I pick my topics with divine intervention, because even though I'm a fiction writer, it doesn't mean that I don't need God, because I do, you know, and I allow God, because when people read my books, when people read Jane's journey, I want them to see what she is going through emotionally, physically, spiritually and, you know, in her relationships with her newfound sister, in her relationship with her new babies, in her relationship with other people that she have met. I want people to see how she has learned, how to turn to God for inspiration, for help on decision-making, because that's something she didn't used to do in dead girl walking, because she didn't know. She didn't know that she had a God on her side that loved her. She didn't know she had a God on her side that has been watching over her all of this time and helping her to walk in the direction, putting the people in place that needed to be in place, that if she chose them, then she would be walking in the direction that he is sending her in. She had to learn all of that, you know from strangers, not from her family, not from her husband. She learned that from strangers. So don't be wary of strangers coming and telling you about Jesus, because God is sending them to you so that you can fulfill the purpose, so that you can learn that there is a God that loves you and honors you and just is so devoted that his let his own son die on a cross just for you, just for you. So so make sure I'm see I'm getting a tear Make sure that that you know you don't turn these people away.
Speaker 4:Listen to them, be kind, listen to them and then observe, absorb whatever it is they got to say, because that's what Jane had to learn, you know, and Jane's. I don't know why I can't find my Jane's Journey book, but you just had it. I mean my, my dead girl walking. I had it right here, but anyway. So yeah, just just read the books and then do what Jane did, you know, do what Jane did. So let God, let God use you, let God move you, you know so, in the direction that he wants you to go.
Speaker 2:I 100% agree with that, and I think that's kind of like how I move when I because I'm an Arthur coach as well um, and people tell me all the time was some people, how you gonna be an Arthur coach if you ain't even been doing it that long? Well, well, it's not about. Hey, melanie, girl, we got our lip. Hey, yeah, just talking about you, we made sure our lips. Hey, girl, we ain't come up here with no crusty lips, girl, because I saw your lab oh, never again.
Speaker 2:That is right, thank you so much. Yeah, so, um, I I tell people all the time it's not how long you do it, it's about your love for doing it and if you're doing it correctly, like I'm doing it correctly, I want to be able to show people like um that they can do it too and that it's really not into it that they think it is, and I and I, anything that I learned I just wanted to tell people. I want to show people that you don't have to spend thousands and thousands of crazy dollars or, like you say, got to go through a big publisher who's going to tell you if you're worthy or not. You can do these things on your own. And that is what leads me to our break that we're going to have from our sponsor and then we're going to come back. We got about maybe another few questions that I want to ask you before we close out. So, just a one minute from our sponsor and then we'll come right back, okay.
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Speaker 2:Right, write it, publish, live it. Okay, and so we're back with Dr Audrey and Moses. You guys just seen what's coming up now, august 1st, with the Listen Linda Arthur Bootcamp, the 21 Day Bootcamp Challenge. It comes with everything. You get 10 free copies of your book, you get weekly one-on-one coaching, you get a roadmap to publishing your book, you get author prompts, you get editing, formatting, book cover design and your book will be on Amazon, ready to go on sale in your bank account, along with the bestseller on day 21. Okay, so I'm teaching you everything to KDP how to edit your book, how to format your book, but also how to always get bestseller. Okay, because everything I've ever touched a seller, I know the format, I got the oil and I'm ready to kind of spill it over and give it to you guys so that program is a three-week program.
Speaker 2:Um, it is six hundred dollars. You cannot beat that with a baseball bat, especially. Get your book, honey, I don't know where you're going to go, but that price won't be that price the next day. Ok, so if you want to be in the class and you want to get it for $600, payment plans are available through PayPal, through Affirm, through Karna. So if it's something that you want to do and you just haven't figured out how to do it, you can stretch those payments all the way for 24 months.
Speaker 2:Okay, so $600 as long as you need to, and I am here to teach you every single thing that I know, and we're going to have fun doing it. You're going to get lunch and door dash to your door with your food. It's going to be a good time every week, okay, so come on in with everything.
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Speaker 2:For more information, information, or, if you're ready to get started, because the first to be here before you know it and I'm not taking nobody after the first time so if you want to know more about it, inbox me. The messenger is right on the screen, okay, so inbox me, say hey, I want to be involved. Or you can comment below and say hey, how can I be involved? I want to tune in? Yeah, so thank you so much, melanie. Ain't that a good and that's a good deal. Girl, yeah, you can't be that bad.
Speaker 2:You're going to walk away with a bestseller, 10 copies of your book and you're going to know everything I know on how to reach out, which is a lot, yeah, categories, how to do everything you've learned for $600. And it comes with a published book. Okay, so spaces are limited. I think I may, may, have two spaces left for this program. So holla at your girl and you need to do that ASAP. Okay, so right back to my girl. My Arthur coach, not my Arthur coach, but my Christian life coach, because she is my Christian life coach and I'm willing to share. Okay, just pay her before the call starts.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm saying that she's not but, I, am Okay, so we're going to get back to that and and this book. Okay, so your characters in all your books, they evolve across generations, right? So it kind of represents from what I see, right, it represents healing identity purpose. What I see, right, it represents healing identity purpose, what continues to draw you back to Jane's story and Jane's journey, instead of starting something entirely different Like what is it about Jane?
Speaker 4:Well, jane's not done with her walk yet, and so, and it wouldn't be fair to just drop her off in the middle of the road, you know so, and so I am really wanting Jane to realize what her ultimate stopping point will be. And when I say stopping point, I don't mean stop forever, but I mean that this part of her journey is completed and then she's going to start a new journey, you know, because that's what life is all about. You know, we always. You know, when I was in school we studied the hierarchy of, you know, the hierarchy chain, and it's like a triangle, and at the bottom it shows like the progression of humans. At the bottom you have what's important food, shelter, clothes, you know, water, sex. Those are um human, um, um carnal needs, you know. And then it goes up to family and friends. That you know. You know, even if you say you don't need nobody, that's a lie. Everybody needs somebody, you know. And so it shows that, your friend, the level for your friends, then it shows your level for your career path or whatever that is in finances, and you know, and it just goes up till it gets to the peak, and, and the theory is that when it gets to the peak, it's called a hierarchy of needs. When it gets to the peak, to the peak it says you have reached all of your hierarchy of needs. So maybe at the peak you might be, you know, if it finances your thing, then you may say, well, I'm at my peak when I'm a trillionaire, millionaire. You know whatever type person. If you're a spiritual, you might say that you're at the highest spiritual level that you can be at. But in reality, can you ever be done? In reality you are never done. So you may come to a peak in one situation but you're at the bottom in another situation. So you start over. So when you're setting your goals and your objectives for your life, you're always setting those goals, inject and objectives to finish this, move over to that and go on up and move over to this and go on up. You know, and you keep doing that until you die. You know.
Speaker 4:And so in jane's, in jane's um reality, she has already um in in dead girl walking, she has already reached a peak of her low life, of her, the lowest parts of her life. She has reached the peak of that and she is learning that she doesn't have to live there. You know she is learning. How many people do we know that think they have to live in the muck, that they don't have a choice? You know and so they never move out of that hierarchy that the peak of that hierarchy is living in the top level of the muck. You know when that is no, no, you're depressed all the time. You're mean you're. You know, or you are letting people walk all over you, or you are not even meeting your own personal needs, let alone able to meet other people's needs. That is not success, you know. That is not reaching the highest that God intends for you to be. So you move up and then you go up a little bit higher. You move up and you go up a little bit higher. And that's how, you know, we survive this life until God comes, you know.
Speaker 4:So, in Jane's situation and dead girl walking, at the end of dead girl walking, you can see and I'm not going to tell you what she did because I want you to read the book, but at the end of dead Girl Walking, you know you can see that she is seeing above the mud. You know she is seeing above. She is seeing that there is, like we say, light, light outside of the tunnel. We always say in the tunnel, at the end of the tunnel, there is no such thing as the end, you know. So she can see that there is light, and so now she's trying to figure out how to get to that light. You know, and when you read Jane's journey, she's learning a little bit more about how to get to that light. And then, you know, and as we go on in her next book, she's learning a new. Now she's learning different things. So, um, so she's always evolving, so so I'm. So Jane is not ready to silence her voice yet, and I say it like that because Jackie knows that I let my characters write themselves. Like last night I was writing something about Jane and I was like, ok, I become the character, yeah, I become the character, and then I write what the character is telling me to write. You know so, and that's the way I write. People write differently, but each one of my characters in my book, when I'm writing about that character, I become that character. That's how I was, because you have to. You have to because otherwise you can't really find the right voice, you know, for whatever that scene is, whatever that scene is, so, so Jay has still got a walk to do, you know.
Speaker 4:And my other books too. I'm going back to Saved by Grace, because when I stopped at Wade, wade is book two and I had already started outlining book three but I never wrote it because I just wasn't ready. And and um. But I'm ready now to um, continue on with the Martin family and um, book three of the um, saved by Grace series, you know, and, and I have my books categorized in series. So I have my great Saved by Grace series, that Saved by Grace, and um. So I have my great Saved by Grace series, that Saved by Grace, and Story of Way. Then I have my Earl Grey Chronicles and Earl Grey is the tea you know and so my Earl Grey Chronicles, which is uninvited memories, state of affairs, deception, state of affairs, revelation. State of Affairs, deception, state of Affairs, revelation. And I'm going to start in 2026. You're going to see State out so that I'm not writing like 15 books at one time, you know, because that'll make you crazy, but yeah, so I clocked it.
Speaker 2:That was shade girl, I clocked it. I be writing so much much my head be over here spinning around like this baby girl. I be having to call people the next day cause I be going through with y'all. I be having all them different characters in my mind and stuff I be talking about.
Speaker 4:It's a lot it is a lot, it is a lot yeah, definitely have to pay. It is a lot, it is a lot.
Speaker 2:Especially if you want to get into writing and and with me I write a lot of non-fiction fiction, trauma, you know, but I also write how God brought me through it. But you still have to go back, unpack and relive that stuff and if you in the middle of writing and you and the people are going back and reliving some of those things.
Speaker 2:it's best not to have nobody around you that you love, baby, because you'll lose them for life. Loud shout you see your mind Because you still now you done, went back and you hurt all over again and you opening up those old wounds. So you have to make sure you root it in your word.
Speaker 2:You have to make sure that you are supportive, Right, I'm going to give you your space and they're going to understand. You know what? She in there writing about this stuff. She thinking about it over again. We're going to give us some grace and not judge you.
Speaker 2:So if you are a person like me who I tell my story, I give my testimony to help other people, but a lot of times you sacrifice your own self in that process because you have to go back and be willing to be hurt again and you have to really be willing to open those wounds so other people can see. Like I like to say, right, when I'm talking to my people, I want to see the white me. I want to see what hurts you so bad and because I'm always one of the people, I need to see it to believe it. So if I'm going to believe that God brought me to do it, I need to see how bad it got for you right and to see where you are today, and so I try to be that transparent, you know, with my work and then even with my authors who come in.
Speaker 2:Well, not my authors, they're their own authors, but the beautiful women who come in and try to help them, tell their stories and give their testimonies, and my endowments and devotionals and poetic finishes different things like that.
Speaker 2:I coached them through that process too, um and I had turned in something to me the other day and I gave my feedback on like kind of like the holes that were missing and you know different things that they can come just to get get them tips on. Of course you have a great piece right, because most of the people who come in already are great authors, but I still want I give. Give them feedback based on a reader's perspective, kind of like if I was your, what I would want to know what what not as an editor, not as a publisher, but as a reader.
Speaker 2:What am I? What is my eye seeing? That yeah I'm not reading it from eyes or whatever. I'm reading it from right, there's eyes and I think that that, yeah, but it also you have to be able to be vulnerable, and that's even with fiction right, because, like you say, you have jane's journey and I got shot.
Speaker 2:Town diamond, diamond and yeah, diamond is kind of that same kind of what mine's, a little bit deeper and a little bit more urban but yeah, yeah you know you, you want to be raw, you want to be transparent, and a lot of those stories are real stories and and real behind real things, yeah, real life. And so with with last one, with Zora's story and her being human trafficked, it's a lot of that that's going on in the world, and so when you put yourself into that character, you become that character. It's like being an actress and you come into that character Sometimes it's hard to become that character.
Speaker 2:It's hard, yeah, because you have a Christian life like I got that because she keep me grounded between her and my fab seven. Thank you, I call them the fab seven, honey. They keep me grounded. I'm out rushmore keeps me grounded because if it wasn't for these ladies who paved the way for me and I'm so glad I'm able to honor you all, uh, with, with the exception of theresa dorsey, I see you, reesey.
Speaker 2:Um, she always, she be to be as good yeah, I still love her yeah these ladies I'm able to always yeah, she is yeah, but she doing her thing and I'm so, so proud of her. Yeah, but, but I get to honor them every month. They're contributing writing, but no matter what I'm doing, I have to involve them because I knew about books, I was in love with books, I was in love with writing, but I didn't really know everything coming into this and I didn't have know everything coming into this and I didn't have that support system other than my husband until I met you ladies on the book slam you, dr Velma Laquita Parks especially, she helped me so much, dr Laquita Parks.
Speaker 2:Carolyn Coleman, melanie, even Chanel Coleman, trivia Payne you know, these really shaped me as an author, as a writer, um, they impressed my buds to the core child. But I know when people do things they do it out of love. And then you have to learn grace, because a lot of times these ladies are writing their own trauma stories and they go back and they relive those things. So when you, when you know that it's even if somebody is misunderstood and in a specific time and they learn to give people grace.
Speaker 2:And because of people like you, because of dr velma, because of quita, because, because kail gonna give it to me straight, no, chaser, but yeah, also is. Uh, you right, you know, that's my girl I want to hear. I'm right about everything.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna call carolyn, but if I want, to I want to hear okay, jackie, now you wrong, you wrong for that. Then I'm gonna call Dr Velma. But if I want, if I want to well, you know you couldn't have it that a little different then I'm gonna call Laquita. But then if I want to know how God would want me to act, then I'm going to call Dr Audrey. So all of them have different right. But my cheerleader.
Speaker 2:If I got to give anybody credit, is that cow baby? She don't care, she on Jackie's side, right on baby. It's different baby, you ain't wrong, you ain't wrong. And if you was wrong, right first and you just went wrong the second time went wrong.
Speaker 4:yeah, she going Went wrong, yeah.
Speaker 2:She's going to try to put it in a way where I don't feel like the world is against me, but then she'll come back and tell me it's a different way. You know, of course you know Carol, but she's really really I think you all, the way that you all handle me as a friend as a daughter, sister in Christ, is remarkable and I try to take that same thing.
Speaker 2:Like you say, I'm patient with people. I learned that through y'all. I learned a lot of that. I just try to give it back the best way I can and I truly you guys, you guys have really stuck with me these past three years. I just want to make sure I give y'all y'all flowers, honey, because I'm not here to tell you, but I'll send you a GIF. Ok, I'll send you a GIF. Yeah.
Speaker 4:So yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, you guys. You know how much I appreciate you and you. You guys are phenomenal writers, phenomenal writers and, like I said, I've been doing it for three years now. I'm a 20-time bestseller and that's including my magazines, right? But I can truly say that I would not be there if it wasn't for God first, but for God to put you guys into my life and you guys be able to call to me.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, and I can, yeah, yeah, I can say the same, if it wasn't for that. As a life coach and as an author, you know, my life has always been, even when I was in the Navy my life has always been dependent on what God is, where God is putting me and why he's putting me there. And you know, and sometimes we don't know that. So now, as a coach, I I try to help people to see what is already in them. So, as a as a psychologist, as a psychotherapist, as a counselor, you know, I'm going to look at what happened in the past and and we're going to analyze that and we're going to see what we can do as a counselor, especially as a counselor, my goal is going to be to move you forward, you know, as opposed to more, um, more keeping you in the background, um, moving you forward. And as a life coach. I just wanted to put this out about my life coaching. I'm not the one that you come to. If you want to pay me money to come and talk to me every week for the rest of your life, I'm not that person, you know, because if that's what you want, then you go see a psych. I have my own psychotherapist that I go to every three months, you know, and, and, and we talk about whatever. We just talk about whatever. You know. She gets all the medical stuff down in her computer, you know, and then we just talk about whatever. But so if that's what you want, then I recommend you go to a professional counselor or go to a psychotherapist, and that's OK, because that's what they're there for as well to help you to talk out all of these things that you have. What I do is I do listen and I do help people to talk through whatever they want. But my main goal as a Christian life coach is to help you move from where you are, unstick you and when I say unstick I mean you, helping you to unstick yourself from wherever you are and moving you forward to where you want to be. You are and moving you forward to where you want to be. And when you get there six weeks from now, you know, eight weeks from now, three months from now, six months from now, whatever it takes when you get there, then we're done. You know, because you got everything, you need to go where you want to go. Now, if you decide you want to talk about something different. You have another goal, then we can start over on a new goal, you know. But but I'm I'm not the one to say, oh yeah, come on next week for $200,. You know, a week, come on, I'll take you $200. I'm not that person. Know so because as a Christian, right, I don't want to see people wasting their money. You know, number one as a Christian, because I don't waste my money and so they're not being productive. You know you're not being productive, so. So I want to see you move forward.
Speaker 4:I have a really good friend that was a client of mine, and every now and then now she'll call, she'll say, you know, I think I need another session, and she'll go online and book herself, you know, and we'll chat, and then you know she may not come back online for three or four or five months or whatever, because she is able to do what she needs to do on her own now. And so when she and I talk on the phone, we're talking about the kids, we're talking about her business. She's a phenomenal chef, you know, and she's a phenomenal author, and so we talk about her business, we talk about her garden, you know, just girl talk. But when she books me, then we are going over. You know we are going over whatever it is she wants to discuss at that time. You know, and that's perfectly okay as well.
Speaker 4:But my goal is always to help people, to make sure that they are not stuck where they are and that they are constantly moving forward, because that's what God put us here. God expects us to constantly move forward until he puts us to sleep. And then, when he puts us to sleep, then we are done. You know so, while you're moving forward in your career life, in your relationship life, you need to be moving forward in your spiritual life as well, because once you go to sleep, that's it. You don't have no more time, you're not going to wake up and have time to do it again. No, you're done. So once he puts you to sleep, that's it. That's it. You know so, um.
Speaker 4:So I always in my books, I talk about, in my books, I talk about, um your relationships, I talk about, um your emotional well-being. In my books, and when I'm doing my counseling, when I'm doing my workshops, um, when I'm doing my videos, or whatever I'm doing, I'm always talking about you and your well-being, your emotions, your relationships with your family and your friends, with yourself, your relationship with God, because that's what's important. Without God, nothing happens correctly, nothing. You may think that you are moving up in the ladder, but without God, when that ladder collapses, when you close your eyes and there is no God, that's definitely the end. So, so you want to make sure that there is always God in there and that you are always moving forward, because the end of your hierarchy of needs is when you die. Yeah, that's the end, you know. So you're always moving forward and enjoying your life.
Speaker 4:You know, I tell people all the time that you'll see in my books that there are sad times and there are happy times. You know, because that's what life is. Happy times, you know, because that's what life is. Yeah, life is sad times and happy times. Life is times of recollections, sitting on your patio, drinking, you know, soda or tea, or you know, rum and Coke or whatever it is you drink, you know, and reflecting on what you have done that day and what you could have done better, what could have happened worse, and where God fit in, and all of that you know, absolutely, as Laquita would say. As Laquita would say, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Speaker 2:Better than a turkey peanut butter and jelly huh.
Speaker 4:Definitely definitely.
Speaker 2:You know you kind of already answered this question, but maybe you can answer it in a different way. Okay, but I do want to say that you have the way you've taken your ministry into every season of your career. What legacy do you want your books to leave behind, not just in the reader's minds, but in their hearts as well?
Speaker 4:I want them, when people think about me, I want them to think about a person that was just a normal everyday girl. You know, a normal everyday. Yes, you know, I have a PhD, which is. You know, if I had a dollar to go with it, I still wouldn't be able to buy a pack of chewing gum, you know. So you know it's great for me, I did it for me, I did it for because it was just some an accomplishment I wanted to make and and it does help to get me in some places. But it's not like what people think, that oh, if I have a doctorate then I'm there. No, I want people to think about me as just a regular everyday person who loves God and who loves helping other people to know that if God is in their life, life is good. No matter whether you have a penny in your pocket or a trillion dollars in the bank, it doesn't matter. You know, if you have God in your life, then you are good. If you have, if people, if your family knows that you love them unconditionally, it doesn't mean you're going to let them have their way. It doesn't mean that you're going to condone their ugliness. It doesn't mean that, but it means that when they are hurting, they know they can come and get a hug from you. Mean that, but it means that when they are hurting, they know they can come and get a hug from you. You know. It means that they know that they can come to you for sound advice. That's what I want people to remember me, as that's what I want my family and my grandchildren to remember me, as I want people to remember my books as books that were real life, everyday circumstances, and there were solutions to those circumstances that were real, day, everyday solutions, not some something in a 15 volume psychological manual that they had to thumb through to find the answer, though. You know real day, you know, and story of Wade Wade is schizophrenic and Wade does crazy things, but there are consequences and resolutions for the things that Wade does, you know, not only for him but for the people that are around him as well. You know so, jane.
Speaker 4:You know she had to deal with abuse and neglect and it shows how she took that abuse and she took that neglect and she turned it into something different for her children, you know, because she wanted to break that chain of negativity at the core right then, and there. She did not want her children to live through that, so she broke that chain there, you know, and it shows how she did it, you know. And the state of affairs you know a guy grew privileged, you know, and he thought he could have his way with every single thing, but soon he realized that it wasn't about him, it was about the people that he was put to serve, you know. So that's what I try to do. I try to help everybody to see something about themselves and about other people in my books. That's real, you know, and it's enjoyable to read it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, there's some comedy in there. Yes, there's some switches, because somebody's getting switched all the time. You know, there's some, there's some ugliness in it, but in the end, you know, it's still everyday life. So I want my grandchildren and my great grandchildren to be proud to say that their grandma was an author and she wrote good books. You know that they could read right now as children and as young adults. You know, and and so, and you know that's what I want. I want people to know me as a woman of God and that I'm down to earth with even that. You know. So, and if you ask me a question. I'm going to tell you the answer. So you make sure you want to know the answer before you ask me the question. That's me, you know, and I love you. That's me, woo, that's me.
Speaker 2:Woo Listen, Linda, you done. Snapped my edges baby, Laid them down and brought them back honey. Okay.
Speaker 2:I just want to thank you for showing up real, raw. Today's journey is truly a blueprint for transformation and I'm so, I'm so, so proud of what you birthed. I truly am. And for my listeners who haven't grabbed this book yet, what you do, okay, your copy, sis. Get your copy, bro, so you can get your life okay it's time you're paying into purpose. Now let's go ahead, let's seal this moment in prayer. Okay, so I'm gonna yes, yes now.
Speaker 2:Thank you, thank you for the release that happened today. Thank you for every woman who saw herself in jane. I asked you, lord god, to cover dr audrey and, from the crown of her head to the soles of her feet, keep thank you god as she continues, and, lord God, for every listener who's battling silently.
Speaker 2:Lord God, I pray. I pray to you, lord God, that you remind them that they are not alone and that the journey is holy as the destination. We love you, we trust you and we're walking this thing out with you in Jesus' name. Amen, yes, amen, amen. Keep speaking life, keep writing truth and keep tuning into the Listen.
Speaker 4:Linda live show.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 4:Don't just bless they break chains over here, okay yeah, and, and tell the men, my books are for men and women, because I tell you what all of these books is a lesson for men as well. So don't think you're exempt from young men's and my bros.
Speaker 2:OK, make sure, Exactly.
Speaker 4:Don't have your copy and I just want to say I just want to say thank you, jackie. You're awesome, you're phenomenal and and literally folks out there even if you don't think you are thinking seriously about a book, you still want to call her and talk to her and let her help you talk it through, because she is really phenomenal. She looks like she's 12, but she has a lot of wisdom. Yes, she has a lot of wisdom and she has a lot. She knows a lot about how to do things digitally. She knows a lot about marketing. She knows a lot about all those things that I don't know. I go to her for those things. So so you know, um, use her. You know that's what God put her here for. So you know, look her up on Facebook, too. For, so you know, look her up on Facebook too.
Speaker 4:You know Jacqueline with an I Q-U-I-L-I-N-E and look her up on Facebook and she has her Donate to Listen Linda Live donate, because she does this out of her own pocket. So you know, this is not you know. You know how some people think you got a business, so you got trillions of dollars in a business account on this. This money here that she uses don't go into her refrigerator, so you know. So please help her out, you know, send her a couple of dollars. She'll appreciate it. And look up, look her up if you're wanting some help with digital stuff or you need some what do you call those digital pictures that she make that are beautiful, and so, yeah, give her a call, because God has put her in a phenomenal place to help you and me. She already helps me, so she needs to help you now. All right, I love y'all.
Speaker 2:Girl, you just brought a tit on my act because people don't really do that. So thank you so much. You see, I wasn't even going to do that, so I just run it across the screen, but I do and, yes, I am here for any services that you all need. I do these fabulous backgrounds and you know I do a lot of different things, so just um, inbox me if you need anything.
Speaker 2:Um, I'm always available for whoever, and she is absolutely right. I don't have no business account with trillions of dollars and I do a lot of the stuff that I do is pro bono or it's, you know, just a? A. I try to sew as much as I possibly can, so I do. I appreciate that. That brought a little to the point, so it don't take much, but I do. I appreciate it very, very much. All right, and I think who do? I got next. Let me check and see who's coming up next on the listen live show. So next we have coming up, we have Vanessa Miller Pierce and we will be speaking, yes, and that is going to be on the 30th.
Speaker 4:African Queen, yes, african.
Speaker 2:Queen yes.
Speaker 4:African Queen and the filling station.
Speaker 2:Oh yes, we'll be talking about the filling station and African Queen, and she's one of my, another one of my favorite authors, so I cannot wait to have her come on on July 30th at noon.
Speaker 4:So oh yes, on July 30th at noon.
Speaker 2:So be square. And also, sunday is the last day for Dr Audrey and she will be back, you guys, okay. Because, you have to listen to the book club when she's author of the month and on Sunday we will have some of the book club members to tune in and ask questions and she'll be able to interact with them. So if you already have your copy of Jane's Journey or you have your copy of Dead Girl Walking, come on through, ask questions, because she will be answering everything you want to know, Okay.
Speaker 4:I love all my questions. Yeah, if not, they can get it on Kindle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was just going to say that Anne just released re-released Dead Girl Walking and Jane's Journey, both as a package deal on Kindle for $9.99. Am I correct $9.99, $9.98?
Speaker 4:Yes, but if they get the Kindle I think it's right now it's $1.98 for both of them, because they're $0.99 a piece. Okay, yes, for the $2. I have to go check, but You'll be able to get them on?
Speaker 2:I think yeah. So grab them today on Amazon so you can be prepared for Sunday. If not, you can always get your signed copy of all of her books we discussed today right here at this address below. So that's hcts// wwwtransitionlifecoach4andyoucom. Wwwtransitionlifecoach4andyoucom. Okay, email at audreynsbooks at yahoocom. If you want to book her, have her come out and speak. You guys can do that as well. Book clubs, yes. So I love you all, christ, love the church and we out of here.
Speaker 4:Peace y'all have a good day.
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