Listen Linda! Hosted by Jacquiline Cox
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Identity Crisis? Jane Doe Has Entered the Chat
What happens when your name symbolizes neglect instead of love? When the people who should protect you dismiss your very existence? In this deeply moving conversation, author Dr. Audrey Ann unpacks the powerful journey of Jane—a character whose story continues to resonate with readers discovering their own worth.
Dr. Ann reveals the intimate inspirations behind "Jane's Journey," explaining how Jane's character emerged from her passion for people identified only by their names. While celebrities might welcome name recognition, Jane's name represents hurt, distrust, and alienation. This storyline mirrors the reality many face when caregivers provide basic necessities but withhold emotional connection—what psychologists identify as the most damaging parenting style: neglect and avoidance.
The author's candor about her personal struggles with invisibility gives profound depth to this discussion. "I went through that in a crowded room and nobody even knew I was there," she shares, detailing how these experiences shaped Jane's authentic journey toward self-acceptance. Listeners will find themselves nodding in recognition as Dr. Ann describes learning that "my voice is valid, whether anybody sees me or not"—the core transformation Jane undergoes.
Faith weaves throughout Jane's development, not as an instant solution but as a gradual unfolding that begins with learning to trust others before trusting an "unseen God." The conversation explores how Jane's spiritual growth parallels her emotional healing, offering a realistic portrayal that avoids simplistic religious tropes.
Most compelling are the author's reflections on writing the emotionally challenging scenes where Jane confronts her mother's unexpected reappearance and discovers her sister's ultimate betrayal. These raw moments in the narrative force both character and reader to wrestle with profound questions about forgiveness, boundaries, and reclaiming one's story.
Ready to continue this journey with Jane? Dr. Ann reveals details about the upcoming third installment, "Silver Moon," releasing this summer. Connect with her work at transitionlifecoach4you.com and discover why readers keep returning to Jane's world—a place where every voice matters, where healing happens in messy but beautiful ways, and where your name can finally mean what you choose it to mean.
Hey there, I'm Jacqueline Cox, but you might know me as ListenLinda. Um, where do I even begin? I guess you could say I wear many hats Podcast host, entrepreneur, Mrs Illinois, usa, and so much more but it all started with a simple passion to tell stories and empower others. Building a platform wasn't easy. There were days when I wondered if anyone was even listening. But then something amazing happened. I realized the power of my voice. Suddenly, my words were reaching people, touching lives, making a difference. Now I see my mission clearly to create spaces where every voice can be heard, because when we listen to each other's stories, we grow, we connect, we become stronger. Every voice matters, every story has power. So what's your story? I'm here to listen and together we can make our voices echo far and wide. To be a guest on Listen Linda. Contact Jacqueline Cox on Facebook Messenger.
Speaker 2:Listen, linda, listen, linda, hey, hey, hey. My book club family, welcome back to our final week together as we close out this powerful journey through the pages of Jane's Journey Jane's Journey by our featured author, the phenomenal Dr Audrey Ann. This month has been real full of reflection, healing and some whoo that hit me moments, and today we are honored to have Dr Audrey Ann herself here. Live to pour into us, answer your questions and give us just a glimpse of behind the next story. If you've been holding back your thoughts or questions, this, right here, is your moment. So don't be shy. The comments are open and we're here for all of it. Okay, but before we start, y'all know what I do. I do what I do. I wouldn't do it if it was not for the Lord, so we got to give him all the praises, okay, hey, god, thank you. Thank you for allowing us to gather one more time and close out this journey together.
Speaker 2:Lord, you have been speaking through these pages all month and we just want to pause and give you the glory for how you've moved. Lord, I want to say thank you so, so much for blessing us with the presence of Dr Audrey Ann. Thank you for every woman and man who picked up this book and allowed you to work through the words on those pages. Thank you for Audrey and Moses, her obedience to write, her transparency and her strength. Now we ask that tonight be filled with clarity, love, wisdom and revelation. Let this healing happen as we discuss Jane's journey. Let hearts be mended, minds be renewed and purpose be reawakened. We give you all the glory in advance for what you will do in this final gathering. In Jesus' mighty, mighty name. Amen, amen, amen, amen, amen.
Speaker 3:So how are you doing today, Audrey?
Speaker 2:Amen, amen. So how are you doing today, audrey? Am I good, I'm doing?
Speaker 3:good, I'm doing good. I don't know if you can see my mood shirt. I have on my mood shirt today because I'm not really sure what mood I'm in oh, so you and I are. So I have on my mood shirt today, but doing good, doing good.
Speaker 2:Today I'm actually wearing a shirt that I won in the last um um, the last marathon that we had for walk for lupus walk to end lupus now foundation here in Chicago, and I participated because, of course, I have lupus. Both of my grandmothers on both sides, my mom and my dad, both suffered from lupus, so I am an ambassador for the Washington Down Lupus Foundation. So I decided to rep my squad because you have to, I think you have to make at least $500 to get the shirt.
Speaker 2:So we raised $500 and I was able to get my shirt, so I'm very, very proud of it, and we will continue to fight to find the cure for lupus. But, yes, let's go ahead and get started on Jane's journey, cause you know me.
Speaker 2:I will roll off the topic. So let's stay on task. Let's stay on task, because you know me, I will go off the topic. So let's stay on task, let's stay on task. So, dr Audrey Ann, so many readers said Jane reminded them of themselves at one point. What inspires Jane's character and how much of her story was personal for you.
Speaker 3:Well, I think the inspiration came. Like I said last week, the inspiration came started because I have I have a passion for people who are identified only because of their name good, bad or indifferent. You know and and, yes, you know when you're famous, when you know you're a famous actor, author, doctor or whatever. You know, you want your name to be recognizable. You know, jackie and I and all of our um, author, um, um colleagues, we all want to be recognized by our names and our books. Now, there are some people who they you know they prefer to ghostwrite or they prefer to have other name pen name, pen name. You know every word that I write. I want people to know I was the one that wrote it, you know. You know so because I just want, I mean, you know they're my words, yeah, they're my words yeah, so hey, why would I want my words?
Speaker 3:and on the book it says you know, madeline Jones, you know, or something you know.
Speaker 2:So but we just say what now? I say no shame to the ones that do, but we just saying how we feel.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for me personally. But anyway, in Jane's case, her name represented neglect and her name represented hurt, her name represented distrust, her name represented being alienated, and so, and there are people in the world who go through that as well, and even if it, even if your name is Sally, you know, still there are people in this world who go through that for one reason or another. You know they go through it because someone that should be there for them is not on purpose. You know someone for them is not. You know someone's not there for them to from you know, as a child, to raise them and to help them and to be there for them, whether it be a mother or a father or a grandmother or aunt or whatever. But they are not there by choice.
Speaker 3:I just listened to. I like to listen to the stories that they have on Facebook, you know, and you know some of them are like 30 minutes and some of them are an hour long. It's like a real book book, and so I listened to this one where, um, the, the girl, um, the mother and the child and a baby were homeless and it just kind of talked about all the things they went through and the person that rescued them and how, before that person, nobody saw them, you know, and you don't have to be homeless for nobody to for people to not see you. You know, I went through that. I went through that in a crowded room and nobody even knew I was there, you know. And in a situation where I thought that at least somebody would say, oh hey, ourenne is here, you know, and no, you know so. Or if my name was called for some reason, it was like you know, you know, adrienne Coates, blah, blah, blah. Adrienne Moses, blah, blah, blah. Ok, and then rush to whatever else is going on, whoever the big name people are, and so, and so I've gone through that feeling of not being seen, so, so that made it easier to write about Jane as well, because I had to fight my way out of that darkness, you know, and so, and so I had to. I had to learn that my voice is valid, whether anybody sees me or not. You know, and I told you all my friend helped.
Speaker 3:It comes to mental health, when it comes to personal growth and taking care of yourself. It always stems down to understanding that you are worthy, you know, and that's because I had to learn that I was worthy, I was in the Navy, I did very well in the Navy, but there were times when I had to, somebody had to push me aside and say look, don't whimper. Say what you got to say. You know, say what you got to say, do what you got to do, because this is you. You know you are worthy, you have worked for this, you have worked hard for it and now you are here. Own it, you know and so, and so I learned how to do that in the Navy.
Speaker 3:I learned how to own what is mine without being rude and disrespectful, without you know civilians only thing they see is military yelling and screaming and cussing at each other. But that's not the whole scene, you know. But I learned how to do it without yelling and screaming and cussing, and I learned how to do it and treat people with respect. So that's what Jane is learning, you know. She's learning that her voice is valid and that, and that her position in this world is there for a purpose, you know, a worthwhile purpose not to just be a battering man, battering ram, you know, for some silly little boy, you know. So, yeah, so that's how Jane is created.
Speaker 2:Well, you know what I want to comment on it, because I don't know if you remember, but I was even saying that in Mountains how all of my brothers and sisters, you know if you remember, but I was even saying that in mountains how, um, all of my brothers and sisters, you know, growing up they all have like these huge personalities and I was literally believe it or not Now, I was the shy one, I was the, I was the quiet one, I didn't want to say anything, I just wanted to be kind of like in the background because they all like fought all the time, like you know, and I didn't know I did. I always felt different. So, because I wasn't really a fighter, I was kind of like laid back. I was the one that would listen to gospel songs and listen to blues and you know, little stuff like that with my dad and stuff. So I was real kind of chill and um, but I remember my mom.
Speaker 2:She was off a binge one day. She wasn't, she was like trying to, you know, recover. She was in recovery at one point and she was back at home with us and we were walking to the store and I would never forget that. Well, I did forget, but just coming in my mind as you were talking, and I remember the day that I had to start speaking up for myself because I was walking with her to the store and when we were on our way to the store, somebody said hey, jesse's sister. Now, Jesse is my little sister, so you can imagine. So my mom was looking like who's she talking to? And I was like, oh, she's talking to me. She's like, no, she's not talking to you, because you have a name. Your name is Jackie. Don't, don't, let nobody call you Jessie, jessie's sister, darcelle's sistercelle's sister, trust and sister juniors. No, your name is jackie and, if you want to be politically correct, is jacqueline smith. And when she said it she was so like passionate about I thought she was upset at me, child.
Speaker 2:I didn't know what was going on, but she was just like no, you can't let people do that, because if you keep allowing people to not call you by your name and just call you based on whoever you know, somebody else, you will never have a place in this world. I remember she telling me that just because I'm sitting here with me and you thank the Lord for clarity, because I could never understand what made me start coming out my shell. And right after that I started coming out my shell, just a little bit and a little bit, but it got, until I got into high school and my stepsisters went to the same high school as I did. So here we go again with the Pam sister or Deitra sister.
Speaker 2:So I, but I did it the wrong way. So I started acting out because y'all gonna know, know who I am. So I was fighting all this crazy, but they knew who I was. But it wasn't always in the best light, unless it was my grades Right, because I had the highest ACT score at the school, always getting good grades. So it wasn't necessarily always bad Right, but and that's why, my counselor at the school.
Speaker 2:She told me. She said you don't have to act out for people to know who you are. You can do part.
Speaker 2:If you do the good part, people will still remember who you are, and that stuck with me too. So thank you, ms Norris. Thank you, you know, linda Valentine. They all my friends on Facebook, even the ones that I was acting out with, they've been adding me on Facebook. It's all love. So, hey, all my teachers, I love all y'all. But yeah, I started acting out because I was trying to get people to know who I am, because I saw only thing I saw was how my sisters and brothers got the attention.
Speaker 2:So I tried to do the same. So I'm glad I'm out there, but now I'm out that, but now I'm out my shell and everybody know who.
Speaker 3:I am. So, that's good.
Speaker 2:Yes, ma'am. So one thing I noticed was how Jane clung to faith right, even when everything around her felt like it was falling apart. Oh my goodness, it was just like I was, just like my Jane can't catch a break. Every time you look up up, it's something with Jane. How do you encourage someone to keep their faith when life keeps life in form, when they keep throwing them storms like how do you?
Speaker 2:encourage them to just keep going. Well, I know how you do it, because you do it for me, but can you tell everybody else?
Speaker 3:well likeane is learning what faith even is, because she never knew what that was, and so so it was a long, it was a task for her to allow herself to um, trust other people, and especially an unseen god.
Speaker 3:You know, know and um, but she trusted, uh, mrs Johns. You know, she trusted Mrs Johns and she trusted Dr Matthews, and so, in dead girl walking, and so, as she's going through her journey, she learned how to trust her sister. Going through her journey, she learned how to trust her sister, and as she started learning how to trust people, then she also started learning more about what it meant to have faith in God and have faith in herself and faith in other people. But it's a learning process. It wasn't something that she just and there it was. She had to struggle through it and she's still struggling through it, but more and more every day, she is learning that that is a very important and intricate part of her wellbeing, and so, as she is growing in her mental health and her mental wellness and her ability to speak for herself, she's also growing in her ability to speak for herself. She's also growing in her ability to learn who to trust and who not to trust, and when, and that includes God yeah, well, I know it was.
Speaker 2:it was um, when I saw how much, like once, she really started reading, reading Bible and going to therapy and being Mrs John's papers her Jesus papers.
Speaker 2:Papers, jesus papers, and she started like going to church and stuff. And I just started seeing like the transformation with her and dead girl walking. I was so proud of her and Jane's journey and how far she just came along and maturing and things just a little bit differently than what she would normally do. So that was a bright light for me for the book. It really allowed me to be like yep, that's kind of like I'm right here with you, jane. I understand what you got going on, because I'm still doing the same thing. I'm still trying to read my Jesus papers and get it together.
Speaker 2:Yeah, now one thing, another thing that I wanted to ask you was there like a specific chapter that kind of broke you emotionally as you was writing it? Like because she went through a lot of ups and downs in both books? And I know, like, like with with my book, zora story, right, the, the, the um, the sequel to shatown diamond. So when I was talking about the story and I was talking because you know, in Shottown Diamond Zorba was kidnapped when she was a little baby. Now she's in pain again and she getting kidnapped again. So I was very emotional writing it I had to step away because I was crying, because I was like, why am I taking this poor child through this again? She already felt it, she probably forgot it. Now here she got to go through it again. So was there any part of that book that had you like that emotionally and how did you push through that moment?
Speaker 3:well, there was two parts um. One part was um when Jane, when Jane's mother came unexpectedly and let me see if I can find it. Oh yeah, I remember that part. Yeah, that was, I think it's chapter that's chapter.
Speaker 2:I think it's 12. Yeah, chapter 12 the birthday surprise right, chapter 12.
Speaker 3:So in chapter 12, you know, if you remember, in dead girl walking, jane did not have a relationship with her family. You know, because they chose not to have a relationship with her. They were in contact with each other but they were of no help to her. You know, it was our. Handle it yourself, you know. And which is how she was raised. Handle it yourself. And so her family was a distinct description of.
Speaker 3:If you look at parenting styles, the worst parenting style is neglect and avoidance. That parenting style is where the children may be living in the house with you, you make sure they have food, shelter, and living in the house with you, you, you know you make sure they have food, shelter and clothing, and that's it. You know there is no emotional connection at all between the parent and the child. And that's what Jane went through, you know. You know she went through that time growing up where she knew she got to the point where she knew not to ask for anything. She knew that they didn't care about her feelings or if she was being bullied at school, and a lot of times her siblings were bullying her. You know so. So she just didn't have that.
Speaker 3:So she, once she grew, once she became an adult and she started learning that she really was going to have to live on her own, especially when her husband was beating her and she would call her sister or brother or mom and nobody would come to help her.
Speaker 3:She knew she was really all alone and so she just started living her life without family. She just started living her life without family and when she, in Jane's journey in Beaufort, her family showed up her mother and her other sister showed up, you know, and it took her a long time to regroup from that. You know, during that time that they were there visiting she, she stood away from them, she stood back, she, um, she, she did not want to like. It was one of those things where you lost my trust and and I just can't, I can't pretend I'm happy to see you, right, you know, that was basically how she was going and, fortunately for me, I did not go through that personally, but I did go through times when my mother would say things and I knew they weren't true, you know, and I would have to put on a smiley face and say, oh, you know, yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, you know when we're, when we're in company.
Speaker 2:your mama lie in front of nobody, Because you know, somewhere. So you have to be just just let them say what they don't say, and you can't say that, because it's respectful, but she lies. Say that because then it's disrespectful, but she lied.
Speaker 3:So she lied. You can't do that. No, yeah, you can't do that. And so and I didn't, you know, I just left it alone. And even though my mother is gone now, you know, in true life I don't even, it's not a big deal I learned while she was alive to have a good relationship with her, despite different things, and we had a really good relationship before she died, and I'm really happy about that, because it could have been totally different, you know.
Speaker 3:And so that's what Jane is going through. She has to decide if, you know, at this point is she going to try to have a decent relationship with her mother or not. You know, her mother has put out that olive leaf, so now it's up to her to decide if she's going to accept it. And so she chose to try and let it work and help it work, especially for her daughters. You know she said that cause she always feared when she left New Orleans. Her biggest sadness was that her daughters would not get to know their grandmother and their aunts and uncles, you know, except for Tamara. So so this gives her and her daughters an opportunity to find some sort of medium of a relationship with her mother, so that one was kind of, you know it. You know I had to really struggle to write the words so that everything was still respectful. You know that, yes, we had these issues, but neither side was going to be rude and disrespectful to the other. You know, yeah, and Tamara, you know Tamara had to go through the same thing because, you know so, they, they both were there kind of leaning on each other and trying to decide OK, what are we going to do with this mother that just showed up all of a sudden? You know so. So that that was that part. And then, um, and her mother said something let me see if I can find it. Um, her mother said, okay, here it is. She was some.
Speaker 3:Well, first of all, the mother said they eventually figured out that there was some issues going on that nobody knew about, and so Tamara's husband was saying that you know they sort of thing. And so the mother called her Jane Doe, and Jane immediately snapped at her mother and said don't ever call her that Her name is Jane, don't ever call her Jane Doe again. And so the mother said that. I know you are shocked to see us. To be honest, I'm shocked to be here. Frank is right. I had a mess, I made a mess of my family. I'm getting older and older and I don they drive from New Orleans to Beaufort. She said no, they no longer live in New Orleans, they live in Savannah, georgia, and that our mother lives with her temporarily.
Speaker 3:Tamara and I both looked at each other again. Tamara asked her when did she move to Savannah? Tamara asked her when did she move to Savannah? Samantha hesitated, as if she was contemplating if she should respond or not. Finally she said they've been living there for two years, but anyway, it goes on down and it says she's the mother is talking and the mother is saying they say my mind is going bad. The social worker says it's a problem because I forget to take my medication, especially insulin. My brother is in. Your brother is in jail forever. Your nephew is in jail forever. I didn't want to bother anyone, but the social worker called Samantha. Now I'm in Georgia with her.
Speaker 3:When she said the social worker called Samantha, I became furious. I tried to hold it in but I couldn't. I blurted out and this is Jane talking. I blurted out if Samantha was not in Savannah with her, how did the social worker know to call her with her. How did the social worker know to call her? I said I don't understand why she did not have the social worker call me, since I was right there. So what she's saying is Samantha is all the way they live in New Orleans, samantha is all the way in Savannah, georgia and the social worker calls Samantha. So instead of calling Jane, when Jane was right there in the same area.
Speaker 3:So it's things like that that Jane had to kind of deal with. It's like you know when is this going to ever be over? You know when is anybody going to ever recognize the fact that I'm here? When you know? And so anyway, the mother kind of apologized for that and she thought that, you know, Jane didn't really want to be bothered with her anyway. The other part in here is when Samantha called Jane and I'm not going to read all of that because again you need to read the book yeah, when Samantha calls Jane and tells her that that she has slept with her husband, you know so. So Jane had to also deal with that.
Speaker 3:Samantha, you know Tamara and Samantha are twins. Samantha, you know, tamara and Samantha are twins, but Samantha was the one that was right there in New Orleans with Jane, when her husband was beating on her and locking her out of the house and doing all of these things and Samantha would never come and help her. And all along Samantha was sleeping with her husband, and so you know. So you have to read the whole thing to find out, you know. But um, so that was kind of hard for me too, because I was like my sister would never. First of all, my sister would never be Samantha or that whole family, you know, and so but the the thought of me or my sister betraying each other, like that was just there was no way that I could fathom. I had no experience for writing, so I had to, like, really depend on my. How would I feel if?
Speaker 2:oh man, I can't even imagine that because, yeah, I got a real close relationship with one of my sisters, my other sister. Uh, we got my other two sisters. We're kind of strained but I love them. The same right. But to be honest with you, I don't see me or my sisters, no matter how near, how far. You know I love them, I love them, they love me. We just life, be life. And you know, I'm not even going to say a strain, it's just everybody going through what they're going through at the moment. But I don't care. You could lock, lock that man up with me and throw away the key. Nothing would. I would never hunt and I don't think they would. I know that they would not. So it's like Jesus Christ. When I read that part I was so mad at her sister. Oh, I was so mad. I was like Audrey got me in my feels at a thousand baby because ain't no way.
Speaker 3:But Well, she comes up again in the new book.
Speaker 2:No, she better not. She better stay where she at. Yeah, she better stay where she at. You like my cup. I love it, it's so cute. I'm trying to stay on point, but yes, it's very cute. But yeah, she better stay where she at. She better not come over here to Silver Moon with that mess. She could forget it over here. But no, I'm stay where she is. She better not come over here to Silver Moon with that mess. She can forget it over here. But no, I'm so, so glad that we were able to get you on again, because we have a lot of people who were interested in Dead Girls Walking that actually purchased the book. When you came out with Jane Journey, I put it in a book club and it said number one. Everybody in the book club was super excited to read it.
Speaker 3:And I appreciate it.
Speaker 2:Everybody likes it right now for a lot of the members in the book club, but we always have our MVP. I got to give Myra a trophy or award. Yeah, I love Miss Myra. She don't care what is going on in the world. She will be at the bus stop and she will still be on here going live with us to talk about these books. So we're going to give the mic to Myra as soon as I see that she's ready to come on so we can get her take of what she thought about Jane's journey and if she has any questions or anything she wants to ask you. So give me a thumbs up, myra. When you ready, I'm going to actually play a video from our sponsor. I'm going to play a video from our sponsor and then we're going to get to some questions from the group.
Speaker 6:Her hands were soft but they were strong. Her voice, gentle but full of power. She didn't wear a cape, she wore a sweater that smelled like Sunday morning pancakes and prayer. She taught us more than just how to tie our shoes. She taught us how to stand tall when life tries to knock us down. And now it's our turn to tell the world, featuring real stories from real women from every background and every corner of the world. Featuring real stories from real women from every background and every corner of the world, because love like this has no borders. Because when Grandma speaks, the world listens. Join the Grandma's Hands Anthology and give your grandma an ode she can be proud of and one your legacy will be known for for generations to come. Contact Dr Jacqueline Cox for more information.
Speaker 2:A portion of the proceeds will go towards the Walk for Lupus Now Foundation and we are back and yes, that is the upcoming children's book anthology called Grandma's Hands what my Granny Taught Me or Things my Granny Taught Me the anthology and with that I am looking for authors. It comes with a full book of illustrations, a real children's book that you can actually take your chapter of and make your own children's book out of it. So, like I said, we're going to bring to the stage Myra and she's going to talk a little bit about what she read from Dead Girls Walking and then kind of give us some questions that she wants to ask about Jane's journey. Okay, so coming to the stage is Myra Cook. Myra is what I like to call her, mama Myra. So, myra, tell us just about what you thought about Dead Girls Walking, and not necessarily Jane's journey right now, but Dead Girls Walking.
Speaker 5:It was good. It reminds me sometimes of me. You know my journey, how, you, how, with her not having leg problems and all like that. That kind of reminded me of me because all my life I would have problems and I'd ask my mama. I'd say, well, why, what's wrong with me? She said, well, we didn't know. I would have problems. And I'd ask my mama, I said, well, why, what's wrong with me? And she said, well, we didn't know. They wouldn't ever take you to the doctor to see. And it's just, it reminded me so much of me because when I went out to school I had every kind of ointment, alcohol, everything you know to relieve the pain, and never knew what was wrong. I still don't know, it just flares up every now and then. But I enjoyed the book. I'm trying to get my granddaughter to read it.
Speaker 5:You, know, she is hesitant about reading. I said you said you wanted to start back to reading, so here's a. You said you wanted to start back to reading, so here's a good book for you to start with.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they are some really good books Now. I know you were talking about Jane's journey and I know you haven't really you've got the book but you haven't really had a chance because of know life, be life. But just from the conversation today about her with her mom and trying to repair that relationship and sister finding out the sister slept with the hook, just tell us what you think about that do that make you want to crack that book open as soon as we finish?
Speaker 5:I know, you know, you know, okay, I had three brothers, but I had three brothers. Well, I have three brothers and we are not close at all, even growing up, and I'm trying to get back into their life. One is in Korea, one's in Atlanta somewhere, and then I got my little brother here and you know it. Just, I don't want nothing from them, I just won't let them know I'm here because, uh, nobody in my family say I love you, I love you, nothing. I don't ever remember hearing that through my, you know, through my life. But uh, and then I'm trying to with my daughter. She here, she ain't said a word, all she do is sit in that, read or crochet, no conversation yeah, that's hard it's hard.
Speaker 2:It's so hard when you, when you're dealing with that, you know, um, but we have to learn how to break those cycles and eventually that will warm the heart. Sometimes we can't wait to reach out. We have to do it, as much as sometimes we're afraid or we don't know how we're going to be received. By that, I think it's. I think I would have told you I love you, mama Myra, a million times since we met. I love you, mama Myra, because I think it just you know, even if you don't feel that from somebody in your immediate family, just to hear someone says it will kind of break the ice and open that up for you to be able to do the same because, just like you, waiting on them, amen, yeah, and I really appreciate all y'all because I've grown to love all y'all.
Speaker 5:I was like god have mercy. I just wish I could just get to you sometime, just give you a hug.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, so we want to know is there anything else that you thought about Jane, about the story, about anything else that you may wanted to ask Audrey and that you never got a chance to ask her about the book you?
Speaker 5:know what. I'm sorry, but my memory is really bad. It seems like getting older, I need to start taking notes while I'm reading my books and I don't think about that and I just but it was a good book, I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 3:I'm glad you read it, because I know you read it. We've talked about it before glad you read it because I know you read it.
Speaker 3:We've talked about it before and I'm just glad that. And then I really enjoy seeing you pop up on my Facebook feed or something. I really enjoy seeing that. So I really do appreciate. You know, this was what we were talking about earlier. I was telling her how, sometimes, you know, we get to a place where we kind of feel like maybe people are not paying attention. And I know one thing I see you pop up every now and then I'm like there go Miss Myra, I like her, you know she pops up and say how you doing or whatever you know, and I and I know everybody else appreciates it too when you do that to them.
Speaker 2:You know that's do. That's why I said we got to get something. Myra got to get a flower or something. Myra comes in, myra comes through. I'm going to have to name her the honorary chairperson or something. Nobody come through on this line Myra, myra. I remember one day we was doing a show and she was at the bus stop on her way home and she had. She was at the bus stop on her way home and she had the camera at the bus stop talking about the book. That is. That is persistence. Okay, because you know that's just something that's repetitive.
Speaker 2:I try to, you know, be there for everybody, because you know, because it's just, and to support, because that support, that's the main thing, is to support you when you're doing something good well, we appreciate you, myra, because, like I remember, somebody said I think it was Ms Pat Gio George Walker she had told me the other day she she was thanking me for something that I did, and she said it's not always about monetary things, right, it's just show up for people, for people.
Speaker 2:Presence is way better than presence is way better than presence. Okay, yes, and when you are present to people, a lot of times that's the gift, that's the presence. So we appreciate your presence. It is really a present to us for you to be here today and we thank you so much, mama Mara. You always, always, always got a seat right here at the table, honey.
Speaker 5:Well, I thank you because I just you know, usually I don't have nobody to talk to about the books that I read. And I got a good friend we read mostly the same books and then when I give her a book to tell her to read, she said, well, I'll see, and I get back in her car still sitting in the back seat and you know, and I don't have nobody else to talk to about the book I really want to, but that's, you know, most people just not interested that you know in reading what I like to read.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know how that is have this system and we can all meet up every week and just discuss reading and discuss the books, and you already know. Anytime you feel like you want to send me an inbox, you do. Anyway, we love you, mama Myra, and we thank you so very much for coming on. We appreciate you so much.
Speaker 5:I thank y'all and just keep up the good work. Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 2:Well, she just finished the work, so you got to catch up with Jamie Journey so you can get to see her in a moment.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah, I know I've just been busy and not busy. I know I've just been busy and not busy. My sleep disorder sometimes just takes over and when I get home I'm out. But I'm going to start taking notes when I read my books, because I forget O-A is not good. I mean, ma'am, it's not good, it's not.
Speaker 3:When you finish reading Jane's Journey, make sure you take your notes, because Silver Moon is the next book about Jane and it'll be out soon, at the end of the summer.
Speaker 5:Okay, I'll make sure, because I always keep a pad with me, but I don't never think to pull it out.
Speaker 3:Yes, ma'am, yes, ma'am, I do that too. I write notes about the books I read, because otherwise I forget if I have a paper book, I write in it. But if it's, if I'm reading it online, I definitely have to take notes.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 2:All right, mama Myra. Yes, ma'am, we're going to let you go because I know you got this real, real, real important class coming up on August 1st that you got to be prepared for I don't know, if you forgot but if you didn't forget, let me remind you.
Speaker 5:I haven't forgot, I'm ready. Okay, good, prepare for that class girlfriend.
Speaker 2:I'm ready we will talk with you soon, okay, we love you okay, I love y'all too bye, bye. I love you, mama, my too. Bye-bye, I love my, I love Mama Myra. Man, that lady is hilarious. I love her so much, but yeah, so before we go, adrienne, is there anything that you would like the readers to know about anything else that you have coming up?
Speaker 3:Well, book three to the Dead Girl Walking series is going to be out. My plan is the end of the summer. It's called Silver Moon and it is a continuation of Jane's journey, jane's walk, and so I am working on it and looking forward to it as well as you all, because I have no idea what's going to happen, but it's coming through. It's coming through, and also next year I'm going to have two new books coming out One in my Saved by Grace series and one in my Earl Grey series will be coming out. I know at least two books. So, you know, just look for that and just you know, pray for me and send me inbox notes and and do reviews, because reviews do help other people to want to read the book, and so, but just let me know what you think about the book. If you, if you don't do a review, at least you know, email me or get me on Facebook. Get me on Facebook, dr Adrienne Moses, you'll find me on Facebook and any. I have my basic, you know, facebook, note that Facebook page. And then I have my books, adrienne's books page and I have, you know, my transitional life coach for you coaching page. So, and for those of you that are looking for coaching. I am a Christian life coach and so you can reach me on my website, which is here below um transition life coach. For you is the number four letter ucom for my books and for coaching, and you can email me at Audreyannsbooks at yahoocom.
Speaker 3:And I'm just thankful to everybody that purchases my books and that have made Dead Girl Walking and Jane's Journey number one. I'm happy about that and I praise God every day for you and for him giving me the words to write and to just continue on. And thank you, miss Jackie, I love you. You know I always tell people how much I love her because you know you give people their flowers while they are alive and can hear them. And she is phenomenal. Y'all have heard me say that over and over and over. She is phenomenal. Go on her page and see for yourself.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much, girl, because I've been whipping it out there, yeah she's been working.
Speaker 2:Well, I do want to say this. We were just briefly talking about what we didn't, but we hinted at what I was speaking with Mama Myra, and that is the 21 Day Author Bootcamp Challenge. At the bootcamp comes a lot of perks. You're going to get how to become a bestseller, step-by-step on how to publish your book. You're going to get editing. You're going to get formatting. You're going to get weekly prompts. You're going to get one-on-one training with me once a week and after that first day, your book will be published. It comes with 10 free copies of the book as well as bestseller status. So you're going to get all of that for $600.
Speaker 2:Now I've decided to bless two people doing a raffle. Okay, so with this raffle, you can join in on the raffle to get uh, to get a spot of a scholarship for the upcoming. So you can get all of that for 150 dollars. So if you purchase a raffle ticket between now and the 30th, the winner will be announced. I will go on stream yard, so it will be announced on YouTube, on LinkedIn, on Facebook, on Instagram, on TikTok, on wherever you follow me at. I will be live on all of those platforms and I will be doing the spin wheel so you'll be able to see the spin wheel on who's going to be the winner. So I will pick two. So I will have two winners.
Speaker 2:I have two spots left and I thought, hey, why not get somebody the opportunity who don't have the money to purchase this class, but really have things that they want to write and want to publish? You can get it all done with Tempre. You will get the same exact things the workbook, everything for $150. Now, you can't beat that with a baseball bat. If you try it on who's going to publish your book for $150 and get you tickets and all of that. But you are able to get that. That will be my seat. That will be sold to you. So just imagine if you purchased this raffle ticket and only you purchased then you got the spot. Okay, I ain't giving a lot of time, so come on in, grab your seat.
Speaker 2:The offer is on the 30th, whoever signs up. If only one person signed up, they got the spot. If one person signed up, they got the spot. If another person signed up, they got the spot. So make sure, don't snooze or lose. If you got 150, you just may have a book, okay. So, like I said we're going to close out in prayer. I'm going to go ahead and just thank you all for showing up commenting, supporting, and thank you my mama, always coming in and engaging week after week.
Speaker 2:We don't just read books over here, we unpack purpose honey yes thank you so much for sharing you're welcome for every woman who saw herself in jane, some of us like me, who still see myself in jane, going through this journey. We are still healing, still growing, still learning to trust you again, lord god. But tonight we are showing up and we are ready. God, let tonight be confirmation for somebody, let it be healing, let it be peace. Speak through every word, lord God, every comment, every question. Have your way in this space.
Speaker 2:Okay, god, we just want to say thank you. Thank you again for showing up, like you always do. Thank you for the safe space for the real conversation and for the reminder that our stories actually matter. Thank you for Audrey N's yes and for the journey she took us on through Jane's eyes. And as we close this out, lord God, I ask that you cover everyone under the sound of my voice. Bless their homes, bless their families, bless their healing, bless their finances and the stories that they're still walking through. Remind them, lord God, that you're not done writing their chapters just yet. Let this book club be more than a meeting. Let it be a movement, and we'll keep lifting up your name every step of the way, in Jesus' mighty name, amen.
Speaker 3:Amen, amen, All righty woman.
Speaker 2:Next month's book will be if I were to write a book in the Bible. So if you have not grabbed that book, it is on Amazon right now the Kindle version and the paperback. The Kindle version should still be 99 cents. If it's not, it will be by tonight so you can go grab the Kindle version of if I were to write a book in the Bible. That will be next month's book and hopefully I will see you guys here and we can kind of discuss and go over the book and tell me what you think, because we also have the if I were to write a book in the Bible anthology coming up. So I want you guys to read it, what you think about it and if you decide you wanted to join if I were to write a book in a Bible, the anthology is only $300 and you get all the same perks. Okay, love you guys.
Speaker 2:Love the church.
Speaker 5:I know.
Speaker 2:I'm always pitching something, but it's my job. That's what I'm supposed to do Okay, so I love you all. And I will talk to you soon.
Speaker 3:All right, bye-bye.
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