Through The Rain

What if the rain wasn’t punishment but preparation? We gathered a powerhouse circle of women to tell the unpretty truths behind their breakthroughs—stories of church hurt that cut deep, manipulation dressed up as ministry, leaks that became collapses, grief that emptied the room, and domestic violence where home turned hostile. Each voice stands its ground and shows how God didn’t always calm the storm, but He never left us in it.

Dr. Audrey Moses opens up about separation, church wounds, and the slow work of restoration after decades apart. Prophetess Leah Kelly unmasks spiritual manipulation, reminding us that discernment isn’t cynicism—it’s stewardship of your soul. Myla Marie brings movement into the conversation, framing dance as embodied prayer when words fail and shame tries to sink you. Natasha Hagins paints a vivid picture of “leak to liberation,” moving from silent pride to practical help and a rebuilt sanctuary that mirrors her renewed heart.

We also go tender and brave with grief and survival. Dr. Leanne Hendrick shares what it means to be drenched in grace after losing a child—how strength and softness can live together without apology. Tia Strickland breaks decades of silence on sexual assault by her biological father and steps forward as an advocate for survivors, proof that beauty after the rain doesn’t erase the storm but reclaims the future. And Yolanda Adams tells the hardest truth: when a mother’s hand becomes a weapon, God becomes a shelter. Accountability replaces secrecy, and a new legacy begins.

This conversation is raw, faith-forward, and fiercely practical—full of scripture anchors, healing habits, and sisterhood that won’t let you drown. We also celebrate a milestone: our devotional anthology through Listen Linda Publishing is a #1 bestseller and just lit up Times Square. That billboard isn’t vanity—it’s visibility for stories that needed the biggest possible sky.

If you’re carrying church hurt, navigating toxic authority, rebuilding after loss, or facing a quiet leak in your life, press play and find your people. Subscribe for more truth-telling, share this with someone who needs courage tonight, and leave a review to help these testimonies reach the next woman standing in the rain.

Chapters

• 0:00 Opening Metaphor And Book Reveal
• 2:35 Prayer And Setting The Purpose
• 3:22 Bestseller News And Times Square Billboard
• 4:36 Show Flow And Author Intros
• 5:18 Dr. Audrey Moses On Separation And Church Hurt
• 22:46 Prophetess Leah Kelly On Spiritual Manipulation
• 38:45 Myla Marie On Dancing Through Pain
• 48:50 Natasha Hagins On Leaks And Liberation
• 56:42 Dr. Leanne Hendrick On Grief And Grace
• 1:08:36 Tia Strickland On Beauty After Trauma
• 1:21:40 Yolanda Adams On Domestic Abuse And Shelter In God
• 1:44:20 Lightning Round: Scriptures, Rain, And Healing

Transcript

SPEAKER_08: 0:09

There's something about the rain. It's messy. It's unpredictable. But baby, it's necessary because sometimes God doesn't calm the storm. He teaches you how to dance in it. He shows you that every drop that hit your life was watering a seat you didn't even know you planted. Through the rain isn't just another devotion. It's a journey of transformation. 30 points, 30 testimonies, each one bread is great, forgiveness, healing, and the kind of faith that only comes after the under control that appears to fall. This anthology is for every woman who's ever cried herself to sleep and still showed up in the morning with worship on her lips. It's for the believer who feels unseen, unheard, and undone, but keeps believing anyway. So I ask you, when the thunder rolls and the rain won't stop, will you curse it or will you find God in it? Coming soon, can you stand the rain?

SPEAKER_04: 2:06

And I have some special, special, special guests that are joining us today. But before I introduce you to these wonderful, beautiful ladies that are here, I want to make sure that we all know the reason why we're here and why we came. And with that being said, I have to do what I do when I do what I do. And that is to start off with prayer. So let's start off with prayer. Father God, we thank you tonight for favor, for increase, and for the kind of rain that brings healing, Lord God. Thank you for taking a simple anthology and turning it into a bestseller, Lord God. Thank you for every woman represented tonight, their tears, their testimonies, and their triumph, Lord God. As we celebrate, let this platform give you glory, Lord God. Bless every ear listening, bless every hand that wrote, and bless every heart that heals because of this book. In Jesus' mighty, mighty name. Amen. Amen. Amen. All right, all right, all right. Well, hey y'all, hey y'all. It is your girl, Dr. Jacqueline Cox, aka Miss Illinois USA Ambassador, founder and CEO of Listen, Linda Publishing. And tonight, listen, Linda, we are celebrating a best seller. Through the rain, a devotional anthology is officially a number one bestseller on Amazon. And tonight, I have the honor of interviewing the powerhouse women who helped make this book possible. And baby, we just celebrating the book. We are debuting live, our official New York Times Square Billboard. Yes, ma'am. Yes, sir. Our faces, our book, our healing in the heart of Manhattan. Yes, yes, yes. But before we jump in, y'all already know I'm traumatic. So stay tuned because in just a few moments, I'm going to play the live video of our Times Square Bealboard debut. I'm trying to act normal, but God did this, okay? He did this. So I'm gonna let you know how tonight's flow is gonna go. I will introduce each author that's here tonight. Of course, all the ladies could not be here tonight, so we send our best wishes to the ladies who could not join us tonight. But I will introduce each author that is here tonight, play their chapter trailer, interview them with three chapter-specific questions, ask two questions about their anthology experience, and then we will end with our lightning round, and we will close with the Linda. Listen, Linda moment. So let's get started. Okay, okay, okay. First up, we have Dr. Audrey M. Moses with the storm within. With us when a storm becomes two. Okay, Audrey. Yes, ma'am. Dr. Moses, yes, ma'am. So transparently about the pain of separation and the long road back to restoration. What part of that season still echoes the loudest for you today?

SPEAKER_14: 5:50

I think um, hey ladies, um I I think I my brain sometimes, you know, Satan does Satan makes us be miserable every time we allow him to make us be miserable, you know, and so in some of those times that I allow him to make me miserable, I think about the night that everything fell apart. You know, I think about what was said, who said what, and you know, and what the reactions were. And and it always plays back in my mind that, you know, if you had not said blah, blah, blah, then none of this would have happened. You know, and I know that it's just Satan trying to make me relive all of that to the point where I'm, you know, back into depression and I'm back into low self-esteem and low self-worth. So I've learned over years how to ignore that. But every now and then it comes back. But now I know that I have the Holy Spirit to come back that. So I just allow, you know, I I let him and Jesus duke it out. And I just move on because I know where I was and I know where I am, and so I know that where I was is no longer significant. But it took me a while to get to that point.

SPEAKER_04: 7:30

Absolutely, absolutely. And you describe the church too. I want to mention that about your chapter. You describe the church as a place that wounded you instead of healing you. How did you rebuild your relationship with God after being hurt by quote unquote, the you know how I say the seasoned saints, his his people, God's people, quote unquote. You know, they like to claim them as his, as theirs and theirs alone, you know.

SPEAKER_14: 7:57

Well, it it was major church hurt, and um it took me a very long time, and when I say a long time, I mean from um nineteen eighty eight or nine, well, let me think, nineteen eighty six until nineteen ninety-five to recuperate from that. You know, it was major church hurt, and I just, you know, I um every time I try to allow myself to give the church a second chance, something else would happen, you know. And so I just decided that I love God, God loves me, but I don't need his church. I don't need those church people. And um, so I just stayed away from them for, like I said, um 11 or 12 years. Wow. And so once I was ready, once uh again, it was a matter of rebuilding my self-esteem, rebuilding my um self-worth and understanding that all of that was it was a terrible time, but I did not have to live that all the rest of my life. You know, and so I um I I joined a church that believed in loving on people um as opposed to continually um reminding them of their faults. And I think that's what helped me to move forward as far as church buildings go, because it it took me a minute to decide that I even wanted to walk back into a church building. Absolutely. You know, so yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 10:05

We all know look, you see everybody shaking their head, like, yeah, we get that. We know that a lot of us, you know, we did uh Adrienne, was you I think you was on when we did that episode on Listen Little when I first came out about church hurt. I think you I did a few episodes about that, so you know I'm previous to the church hurt.

SPEAKER_14: 10:23

Church hurt is devastating.

SPEAKER_04: 10:24

I can uh can agree with you on that. Now your testimony ends or your chapter ends in re uh reconciliation after 23 years. Yes, what would you tell a woman who is still stuck in between that in-between season right now?

SPEAKER_14: 10:42

Well, I'ma tell you from the day the divorce papers were signed until the day the marriage license was signed, I was always like never ever ever ever nah I'm good. I'm good, you know, but um but I I knew I wasn't good. And and one of the reasons I knew I wasn't good is because the one or two men that I did meet that I thought might be husband material weren't him. They weren't him and they weren't um his I know it sounds weird, you divorced this person, you know, but they they weren't they weren't him. Yeah, um we didn't divorce at all.

SPEAKER_04: 11:38

They were not it wasn't your helpmate. That wasn't that wasn't it?

SPEAKER_14: 11:42

It wasn't it wasn't who I was supposed to be with.

SPEAKER_04: 11:45

Exactly.

SPEAKER_14: 11:46

Um I um we didn't divorce because of infidelity, we didn't divorce because of abuse. It was none of that. It was just um, you know, one one day we just didn't get along anymore, you know. Yeah and so um and and in the 80s it was easy to get a divorce. You just say, oh, I don't like that shirt. Um get out and don't come back, you know. You know, so I I don't like I didn't like the way you cook those greens, then you don't have to cook for me anymore. Bye. You know, basically that's how it was in the 80s. And so um I'm glad it's a lot harder to get a divorce now. I really am. Because it makes you know, it's a lot harder and it's more expensive back then. I did all the paperwork. I I went to the um Office Max and or whatever it was called then, um, picked up a packet, filled it in in ink, filled in all the blanks, took it to the courthouse, paid$75. That was it. You know, so um, but as time went on, we both knew it wasn't right, but we both were stubborn, and you know, we both had other things going on by then, and so you know, and God was patient. And and so I just I always tell him he walked around in circles until he got back to me, you know, and so um I I I tell people, don't ever say you won't. Yeah, you know, because I said I won't, and he said he won't, but we did. So after 23 years, our children were grown, and we actually had grandchildren by the time we got back together.

SPEAKER_04: 13:45

Y'all figured it out. I'm so and I love that for y'all. I really do. I really love that for y'all because y'all are one of one of my favorite couples. And he's funny, y'all. He is hilarious. He be getting me all every time he sees her and follow me, he gotta get me. But I love it. I love y'all so much, and I'm so happy that y'all at the 20, that you know, that's the Jordan year.

SPEAKER_14: 14:09

Yeah. Well, it's been we've been together 14 years. Yeah, but so so we count all the years. So we've been actually together for um 40, my son is 43, so 45 years.

SPEAKER_04: 14:26

Yeah, because you still have to co-parent, you still have to be with that person.

SPEAKER_14: 14:29

Yeah, we co-parented, and yeah. That's so so um, so we count all the years, but from after the 23 years, we've been physically back together for 14 years.

SPEAKER_04: 14:43

Well, congratulations.

SPEAKER_14: 14:45

Thank you.

SPEAKER_04: 14:46

I love that. I love that so much. Now we're gonna get into the project. Of course, you know, I know that I'm your, you know, I'm your daughter, you know, and but you can tell the truth now, you know. You've been working with me for a long time. How did writing this chapter help you heal another layer of your journey?

SPEAKER_14: 15:07

Oh, I thought you were gonna ask me about wanting to get on a plane and come to um Illinois to wring your neck. I thought that's the part you wanted to know about.

SPEAKER_04: 15:18

Well, we're gonna hold off on ringing my neck for a while. You know, we're gonna keep it light. You know, we're gonna keep it cute because I did an unboxing of your box that you gave me today. I don't know if you saw it.

SPEAKER_14: 15:31

Oh, you got the box. Oh good. Um, but um actually what um I I've been writing for a long time, and um, and I've and I've written um personal stuff for a while, but Jackie made me go places with this story that I didn't want to go to. And um she made me, you know, I wrote the story. I wanted to, I wanted the story to be only about me and only about my feelings. And um, I did not want it this story really had nothing to do with my husband or my children, and and it still doesn't. And um, so but she wanted me to, you know, pull more out um of you know, more out of the the feelings and the stress and the depression and you know the selflessness, the selfless, um self, wh what's the word, worthless feelings that I had and all of those things. And and I wasn't wanting to do that, you know, because when she asked me to join the anthology, I was like, okay, fine, what I'm gonna think, and I thought of something, and I wrote the whole thing in about, you know, a day, five hours. You know, I just wrote the whole thing, you know, um went through and made sure all the words were spelled right and all that kind of stuff and sent it to her. And then, you know, she sent it back.

SPEAKER_04: 17:13

So, but I think everybody here has experienced me sending it back, and they was all mad at me, and they kept being mad at me the whole time because I'm sending stuff back like this ain't it, this ain't it. And they're like, oh my god, girl.

SPEAKER_14: 17:30

Yeah, and so so it that's basically what I went through was having to really dig deeper to um to make, you know, to really say what I actually went through, you know, me personally going through that journey. So, you know, but I I still love her.

SPEAKER_04: 17:54

I love you too, Mama Audrey. And the last question for uh Mama Audrey before we move on to the next person. What did being part of this sisterhood, or does being part of this sisterhood do for you spiritually and emotionally as far as like being part of the Listen Linda sisterhood? Because you know you are like a board member at this point. I told you and Leah are y'all the enforcers. Um, because y'all come in, you've been here since day. When I say y'all, this lady has been here for me since day one, since I wasn't even listening yet. I was still just Jackie, you know, in a random anthology, you know, I didn't know nothing about nothing. She was here before Mountains, she was an art reader for mountains. That's how long she's been here. Right. Yeah. What do you think a sisterhood like this means for just people, but really for you spiritually and emotionally?

SPEAKER_14: 18:51

Well, with um, like she said, you know, we met like right right after COVID or during COVID. I can't, you know, somewhere around, somewhere around there. It was during COVID. And and it was, you know, I I was not really involved in a lot of um women Arthur groups at that time. So um a friend of mine, uh Dr. Velma Bagby, was the one that really pulled me into the group. And and I think it has been great for for me personally. It's been great for me. Um it's it's pulled me out of a shell or two that I was in. And um and it's helped me to learn how how other authors feel. And and I've learned that other authors go through the same things that I go through, especially though, you know, if we're self-published, you know, that's it's it gets kind of rough sometimes. And um, and and these women have really become my family. You know, it's the listen linda um group has really become my family. And I've written a couple anthologies with the group, and um, and they've they've helped me, is it five?

SPEAKER_04: 20:20

Five, all of the women of the voting room, and this one, and then we did one together with somebody else with her.

SPEAKER_14: 20:27

So that's a total of five that you worked on with. Right. So um, and then like um, you know, like I said, the the biggest part for me is is being able to know that I have sisters I can call for any reason at any time, whether it has anything to do with a book or not. Sometimes we run ideas off of each other about our books, and and it's seven of us that we really are like sisters, you know. We can call each other at two o'clock in the morning, you know, and and and it'll be okay because, you know, that we we just know what each other needs. And and I think that's what happens if you get in a group and you're close in that group, and um, and you get to really know each other. And and um, and we all are spiritual women, so that helps us. If I'm if my if my bowl is a little empty, somebody in the group is gonna fill it up, you know, and and we all need that. So I mean, I don't want to take up all the time, but because I could talk about our group, you know, for an hour, um, with all the things that we have been through together, um, sadness and happiness, and so, and we've always stuck together. And I and I know we will continue to stick together even after Jesus comes.

SPEAKER_09: 21:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14: 21:55

So um, so I know that we will continue to be together. But a group, when you form a group like this, you know, it's a good thing. It's a good thing for your writing and for your your personal spiritual uplift.

SPEAKER_04: 22:09

Absolutely. I can't agree more. And you know, I love you like Christ Love Church. And uh I I appreciate you so much for just sticking with me because I be having my days, but Dr. Audrey Ann is actually a Christian life coach. Well, I well, I am a psychologist. Yeah, she's a psychologist and a Christian life coach, and she's my Christian life coach. Y'all can borrow her sometimes, but she's mine. So if you guys, you know, um, I will go back around at the end and let people know where they can reach everybody at. Um, but I'm gonna move forward now. Thank you, Dr. Audrey. I love you, I appreciate you. Thank you, ladies.

SPEAKER_15: 22:47

Thank you. I love you too.

SPEAKER_04: 22:49

Next up, we got prophetess Dr. Leah M. Kelly with raindrops of revelation. Okay, and I'm just gonna get into this trailer right now.

SPEAKER_01: 23:04

Others to reveal. This is the story of a woman who stood in the stone and found revelation in the rain. She dreamed of this moment her whole life. To walk across that stage to hear her name called, to receive her doctorate in divinity. A dream, decades in the making, finally realized. But as the applause echoed, another stone was forming behind the church. He was powerful, charismatic, a man of God, or so she thought. Their connection began as ministry, but it soon turned into manipulation. What she thought was divine alignment became a battlefield for her soul. The words came like thunder, stooped, dumb, crazy, each one a dagger. But instead of drowning in despair, she lifted her umbrella of faith and declared, no weapon formed against me shall prosper. Tears became raindrops of revelation. The pain revealed her power, the rejection revealed her word. And when she finally prayed, God, if he's not the one, removed him. He did. Not in anger, but in mercy. Through wise women of God, she found healing. They prayed, they pored, and they reminded her. True love does not destroy. God's will does not belittle. She learned to set boundaries, protect her peace, and walk in freedom. Sis, you don't have to drown in someone else's rain. Let every drop of pain water your purpose. So let the rain reveal, not destroy. Rise, daughter. The thunder was never meant to silence you. It was heaven's applause reminding you. You made it through the rain.

SPEAKER_04: 27:12

Yes, yes, yes. Amen, amen, amen, prophetess, Leah Kelly. I can't hear you.

SPEAKER_02: 27:28

I'm just like, wow. Can you hear me?

SPEAKER_04: 27:30

Yes.

SPEAKER_02: 27:32

I'm just like, I'm just like, wow, because when you look at it and you that's something that you have walked through, that you have survived and overcome. The magnitude of what God has done is overwhelming. It's overwhelming to the fact that, you know, whom the son has set free is really free indeed. You know, with a greater sense of awareness. Back over to you, Jacqueline. I'm just God is good. I want to run, but I can't run of my house right now. I want to run. You want to get a pro girl.

SPEAKER_04: 28:13

Girl, girl, girl. Your chapter exposures, spiritual manipulation, charm masking character, and the dangers of ignoring discernment. What finally snapped you out of the fog and brought you clarity?

SPEAKER_02: 28:34

When I looked at it, it was a constant, the constant arguments, the constant uh trying to turn it back over on me to try to make me think I was crazy, and I know I'm not crazy, and I know um what I saw, but the the program, I I recognized he was trying to program me. He wanted me to pro he wanted to program my my peripheral, like my whole vision to see it the way he saw it, the way that he said it had to be law, which a lot of times contradicted, he tried to contradict the word, if you understand what I'm saying. He tried to make his word above God's word, like he was the only one in tune with God. And it was just a breaking point when he was like, Well, you know, why are you praying? Why are people asking you to pray? You know, why do they want to talk to you? You know, I'm the apostle, I have it all. That's what he was telling me. And so I was like, you know what, Leah, there's something wrong with this picture. And a light bulb went on, Holy Spirit light bulb went on in my head, and God was saying, daughter, I'm showing you this. Do not ignore it, do not allow it. Allow the love that you have for this man and the feelings, only called in your emotions because they'll put you on a roller coaster. Don't get so caught up that you allow it to blind you because this individual is not for you. And even in one moment, really the kicker was when I was talking to God about it, and God said, He is your nemesis. How do you expect your nemesis to agree with you in anything regards to me?

SPEAKER_04: 30:33

Absolutely. Now, I I really want to um dig a little deeper um into your chapter because in your chapter you talked about how transparency in the wrong hands is like handing somebody a loaded weapon. What boundaries have you built since then?

SPEAKER_02: 30:55

Well, the I mean that is is really true because you're giving your enemy the gun to take you out. And I and not so much physically, but mentally, psychologically, and emotionally, you are equipping them with the ammunition to destroy you. And so I move, I I thought that I have moved uh wiser, you know, with wisdom back then, but now I move in total, complete wisdom, uh, allowing the Holy Spirit discernment to lead me and guide me and to know what I am to expose and what I'm not. Because see, oftentimes you say, Well, I love this person, I want to tell this person uh everything about me, but at times it may be too soon to tell them. They might not be able to carry the weight of your truth while they're living in the lies of their denial.

SPEAKER_04: 31:53

So, you know. Um, what part of your storm was God using to strengthen but not break you at that time? What do you think?

SPEAKER_02: 32:06

I think that God was building character in me. I have to say that he was building character and building me to be the woman that God called and ordained me to be. And what he was showing me was that I had to have my ear attuned to the kingdom more so than to the words of man.

SPEAKER_04: 32:31

Absolutely, absolutely, I hundred percent agree with you on that because a lot of times we we are so wrapped up in the love of our life, and you know, I used to be, I am like y'all, everybody know me. Y'all know I love me some Mr. Cox, but I love my husband, I love my husband, but even my husband know and can appreciate that God comes before him because if I don't love God first and myself second, I can't, I can't give what I don't have. So I have to fill up in God, and I have to fill up in myself in order for me to be able to um love people correctly. So I'm so so glad I like I said, I love my husband. My husband loves me, but he knows that God comes first in his life, God comes first in my life, and that way we can come together, um, like like Dr. Velma so eloquently states with that three-strand cord and make it bind and stick. Because if it's just me and him and it's no God there, that's like a twist. You know, it's gonna unravel. But if you got a three-strand cord like a braid, it's gonna lock in and it ain't gonna move. And so I can I can definitely appreciate that. Um, now we're gonna go into your project experience. How did writing this chapter shift your ministry as a prophetess? This this chapter.

SPEAKER_02: 33:58

That's that's that's a good one. Uh, as a prophetess, it shifted it in this way to look at leadership as a whole, and how leaders should not manipulate the word of God and try to twist the word of God to fit their agendas and their um their way of doing things that would mislead an individual. It's like, Lord, help me not to be like that, because I never want to mislead God's people. And that is a dangerous place to be in, especially if we say something to God's people that He did not say. So, you know, we had that is a very thin line. You have to be very careful and not do that. So, you know, one can get in trouble with the Lord. So it taught me to continually walk in integrity within my office that I occupy and to lead the people to God the way that the Holy Spirit instructs me to do so.

SPEAKER_04: 35:06

Absolutely. That is a great answer. That was the answer I was looking for when you said that it just it leaves because a lot of people get so caught up in what they're hearing, they're not hearing everything that God is saying or seeing everything that God is trying to show. Not saying that you lack that, but I noticed just even in your writing, when you were do when you were sending your chapter in, and I will ask you for more, and I will ask you for more, you started going deeper and deeper into your ministry. And it started like, if y'all read her chapter, you'll see what I'm saying. She knows so much about ministry already, but it just seemed like as she started to get further and further into her writing, it looked to me as the reader, but also as the editor and the publisher of the project that you started to see things a lot clearer. It started to make more sense to you. Your writing became less and less of a task for me to do because you had it, right? And that's why I was like, okay, I see where she's not just like from the time we started, I just saw you grow in your ministry and in your writing. And it your writing reflects your growth. That's why I wrote this question down even before we even I had your question laid out. Like, I wonder what she's gonna say if I ask. Like, and that's what I saw in your writing. Um now, what does it mean to see? Uh, what does it mean to you seeing your story help other women recognize the the quote unquote, like my friend um and mother-in-love says, Dr. Bell, see the recognize the red flags?

SPEAKER_02: 36:50

Well, you know, when you when you go, okay, so when you love somebody, when you love someone and you you are writing about it and you have suppressed emotions, it begins to pull layers off, right? So when you when you're dealing with those layers, it's like, you know, you have to not be in denial, right? You have to not be in denial. When you see the red flags, don't say, oh, I can love it away from him or I can change him and all this other kind of stuff. No, he is who he is. You have to pray and see where this individual fits in your life or not. And don't be afraid to let go. Don't be afraid to let go. Don't be afraid to say, you know what, this is not it. If it's abusive, it's not it. Not caring, um, that will mislead you, mistreat you, hurt you. Don't ignore it because you are you feel within yourself, if you let that go, you will be love deprived.

SPEAKER_04: 37:59

Absolutely. I 100% agree with that. Absolutely. I love that. Um, before we get back to um go to our next person, I just want to thank you so much, Prophetess Leah. You have been a breath of fresh air for this um anthology for the listen, Linda, and you know, just I welcome you to the Listen Linda family. You have truly been another person that has really supported this movement and just been doing everything you can, whatever it is. She is on it. What you need me to do, what can I do? And I just I truly appreciate that about you. Um, the next person we got coming up um is Myla. Myla Marie. And her chapter is called Dancing in the Storm. Dancing in the storm. And Mila, girl, you came in twirling with your anointing. Girl, girl, let's talk about it, Myla. Let's talk about it. Now, let's your chapter, your chapter, Mila. Are you there? She was here and then she dropped out. Okay, so you done left the stairs. Okay, are you okay? Girl, I'm about to I'm introducing you, girl. You messing up our life, girl. I'm sorry. Your chapter focuses focuses on choosing joy, even when life tries to knock the wind out of you. What taught you how to dance instead of drown?

SPEAKER_12: 39:37

Well, because I it was it was either dance or sink. I've literally one of my friends said this a while back. Um, um, he told me he was like, Mala, you are one of those people that have just been fighting since you left the room. Like, that was all I knew how to do. I had I'm the type of person that's going to continue to push and push and push until I get it right. And I don't know how God does with other people, but he knocks me clean across my head, you know, messed up. So, and I thank God for that. I thank God for that. But yes, I it it's it's a natural thing. I've just been fighting for so long that I just, you know, started dancing. Dance is my escape. I used to be, I was a praise dancer for a long time, very long time. But yes, dance is my escape.

SPEAKER_04: 40:42

Okay, now I know you she's so cute, and she also got this cute little voice. I just really love my little voice. She looks so innocent and sweet and nice. Um, you speak about movement as healing. What does dancing spiritually look like for you? That is the real question. Like, spiritually, what does that look like for you?

SPEAKER_12: 41:04

Connecting with God, allowing, recognizing that God is inside of you, and recognizing the connection there. Like, we there's no way possible that we can live, move, breathe, dance without God. His name literally means breath. It's like one-in-one. So when you dance spiritually, it's being in tune to the point where you can feel and see Holy Spirit, to where you walk in and you talking, and you just embody what God has called you to do, which is what dance is. It's the it's the physical interpretation of whatever you're expressing, like David when David danced. Um, that is what I call dancing in the spirit, or yes.

SPEAKER_04: 42:01

Now, um, what would you say to the woman who feels too broken to move again? What would you tell Papa?

SPEAKER_12: 42:10

There is nothing, there is absolutely nothing that God can't do, and that God will not do. The thing about brokenness is when you are there, you cannot see that you are in a very place where God is the one that can bring you together. And it's in brokenness where we find our relationship with God and not being codependent on our leaders or being codependent on our parents or wherever we were instructed. You find that in brokenness. When you feel like everybody has turned their backs on you, and you feel whatever the case may be, in my case, it was shame and embarrassment because I was a teen mom. I was a mom at a at a really young age, and I made a lot of stupid mistakes. And so even when I was going through my brokenness, I wasn't open enough to share that with anyone because I was so harshly criticized, and it was like expecting me to know something that I just wasn't taught, just expected me to know and be and do, you know, and we all do know rights or wrong, don't get me wrong, but in that place is where I found God, in that place is where my faith grew. In that place, in that broken place is where God was able to mend the pieces because God is a potter with a play, and you know, he mends the brokenness, and he makes you the scriptures. This is one of my favorite scriptures. It says he presents you faultless in the presence of like God presents you faultless, and he is able to keep you from falling and hold you together. That is my favorite scripture. Um, we used to do it doing benediction all the time, but yes, so um God is able to put you back together again and you be better, wiser, you know, stronger.

SPEAKER_04: 44:26

Absolutely, absolutely. Um, I want to um ask you, um, how did contributing to this anthology help you reclaim that rhythm?

SPEAKER_12: 44:40

Okay, it caused me to look back and see how far I've made it and see how far I've come. God has brought me such a long way. God has brought me such a long way, and um, this anthology, this assignment, it came up at the right time, number one. It came at the right time because I just closed a lot of chapters. I just did like I I just did like a 30-day fast. And during that fast, God broke up a lot of stuff within me that wasn't him, and he rebuilt me. So it gave me the opportunity to reflect on how far God has brought me and really just sit in that.

SPEAKER_04: 45:33

Absolutely, absolutely. Well, you know, um, I got one more thing to ask you, and then we're gonna move on to the next, the next person. Um, the last thing I want to ask, what moment inside of this project touched you the most? Like what moment while working with us touched you the most?

SPEAKER_12: 45:53

Just the camaraderie and being in connection with a group of women that just much like the last project that we did, um, that have something to contribute to each other, to one another. And, you know, being there, the encouraging words that are shared throughout the groups and just not feeling alone. Because a lot of times as writers, when we do our projects as individual projects, it's like being alone, you know. Um, but in this case, we have sisters that keep you accountable and encourages you and pushes you the way through, you know, and it's it's much needed. It's really, it's really much needed. Because, you know, as a writer, um when you sometimes when you don't have that accountability, I've like I've I have a book I've been working on for three years. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04: 46:48

Like a book inside of the work about the nature.

SPEAKER_12: 46:56

Like you can, when you don't have that accountability, you can easily get sidetracked, distracted, and I don't know what it is about the writing ministry, about the the gift of writing, but every little thing can distract you, everything. Um, and I think that having um this group of women who have all their own strengths, and you know, we've all come together, having that accountability and that encouragement really is a highlight for me.

SPEAKER_04: 47:24

Oh, well, we love you, Milo. We love you. I love y'all too. Yo, sweet little, sweet little mousey voice. I really love the boy. It just, it just, it does. I be like, oh, but okay, I'm mad at Milo, but I ain't mad no more. I just think so. We appreciate you so much. Um, we got um, I want to shout out some people who are watching. Um, Dorcas, my lady, I'm not gonna butcher your name, beautiful. Um, she says, congratulations. Um, Tina, I'm pretty sure she left a gif. So thank you for that. Um, Juanita, thank you so much. She says, congratulations, lady. My girl, Pamela Nance Johnson says, congrats, good evening, ladies. Congratulations on your literary projects. And of course, my grandma, my mama Myra Cook says, hello, ladies, and congratulations. I want to make sure that I acknowledge everyone who is joining. It's so many more people that are joining right now, but these are the people that actually left comments. But to everybody on the sound of our voice, we appreciate you. Now we're gonna go into Natasha from Leak to Liberation, My Journey Home. And we're gonna start first with her chapter, and then we're going to um move on and hear a little bit more from Natasha.

SPEAKER_00: 48:50

So let's start with Natasha's chapter with her chapter trailer was drowning right before my eyes, but it wasn't just the ceiling that collapsed, it was everything I'd been holding together with silence and pride. For two years, I ignored the small leak in my bathtub, a drip I thought would fix itself. I didn't ask for help. I let fear, shame, and pride tell me I could handle it alone. But ignoring pain doesn't erase it, it only spreads. When my friend looked me in the eyes and said, You need to move. I knew it wasn't just my house that needed rebuilding, it was my heart. I left everything behind, the furniture, the memories, the mess. With every wall rebuilt, I found a piece of myself restored. With every coat of paint, I covered the stains of yesterday. God didn't just restore my home, He restored me. On May 23rd, 2025, I moved into my new home. I call it my sanctuary. Every floor, every wall whispers grace. Don't wait to fix what's broken. Don't let fear or pride convince you that silence is strength. Face the leak. Because what feels like disaster today may be the beginning of your liberation. Natasha Avet Hagen's Through the Rain chapter. From Leak to Liberation, My Journey Home. Produced by Listen Linda Publishing, where testimonies turn into triumph.

SPEAKER_04: 50:40

Yes, Natasha girl, you gotta come to the stage. I'm trying to take it off now. I'm sorry. Girl, girl, girl, we gotta talk about this chapter now. When I say chapter, girl, your chapter got deep. So your chapter compares life's hidden wounds to spiritual leaks. What was the biggest leak you didn't know that you was draining in?

SPEAKER_10: 51:17

The biggest leak that I was draining in is pride, not um asking for help. I mean, and not allowing allowing something so small to become so big. Um that was it freed me now to be able to speak up immediately if I have something wrong, don't keep things quiet and inside.

SPEAKER_04: 51:43

Oh, that's that's yeah, I I read that in your chapter because you stepped into liberation so boldly. Um when I read the chapter, I was Lord, I was like, oh my goodness, what was the turning point where you said, Okay, you know what? Not another drop. This is it.

SPEAKER_10: 52:03

What was it when I heard that loud boom?

SPEAKER_04: 52:07

I spiritually say it again, not the house, but spiritually.

SPEAKER_10: 52:15

Oh spiritually, spiritually, it's like I can't hold stuff in anymore. Um I have to have faith in God and speak my mind and speak my truth immediately. Um and through all of what happens physically, through whatever whatever you're going through or whatever's happening, God is still with you and He's gonna help you, and you don't have to feel ashamed of anything that you're going through.

SPEAKER_04: 52:53

Girl, how does staying healed look for you now? Now that you got healed? Like, how does that look for you now? Staying healed.

SPEAKER_10: 53:06

Staying healed, um, looking back is always a lesson in everything in life. It turns your lessons into blessings into a testimony, and you learn from what the things that you're going through, whether it's a leak or whatever, don't keep that inside, but don't keep nothing inside, just um tell your truth, speak your truth, and it's liberated me to speak my truth as I keep saying, but um that's how I feel that that um you have to be able to free yourself from shame and um just know that God is whatever, even through all that mess, God still restored me, and I came out better on the other side. So yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 54:00

Yeah, I know I gave you a little fluff um going into the project about going deeper and deeper and deeper. And um a lot of times people talk about the chapter, but more than most is is I get the most feedback uh from from my co-authors, from my contributor artists when they see the actual trailer. So, how did it feel when I sent you that trailer of your chapter? What was that feeling that you saw your hearing?

SPEAKER_10: 54:33

I was like, wow, this is exactly I was like, wow, this is exactly how I felt inside. Um and to see that, but and to see the wall, everything, everything that you put in the video in the trailer happened, but at the end, I came out with liberation. It took some time, it took some healing. I had to move out and really um put my faith in God, and earth angels came to my rescue as well. So don't be afraid to ask for help.

SPEAKER_04: 55:12

Absolutely. How being how did being part of this devotional strengthen or stretch you?

SPEAKER_10: 55:21

It stretched me to keep on telling my testimonies because you heal a part each time you tell your testimony, you heal a part of you that needs to be healed, and you become bolder in speaking up and telling your truth and your testimonies.

SPEAKER_04: 55:40

Okay, well, I I thank you. We all thank you. Um, if you guys have not picked up this book, please do so through the rain. Okay, each lady will tell you um how you can purchase it from them, a signed copy of it from them, okay. Um, I encourage everybody not to purchase it on Amazon. I really want you all to support the the contributing authors and get an actual signed copy, okay. Amazon can't sign it for you, and I don't do signed copies, okay? Um, I do not do signed copies. Uh get it from these ladies, okay, and from the other ladies who are not here. If you if you see the book, if you got the ebook and you like it, get a signed copy and support these ladies, okay? Next up, I got my good girlfriend on here, um Lee Ann Doctor, okay. Let me be clear because I don't ever want to not represent my people to the fullest, okay? And Dr. Lee Ann Cerise Hendrick, baby. She would let you know what time it is if you don't get it all the way together. So I gotta make sure I represent my girl to the fullest. Dr. Leanne, Cerise Hendrick, and you girl. This lady made me laugh every time I see her face. Dr. Leanne Cerise Hendrick with Drenched and Grace, okay. I'm gonna play her chapter trailer, and then right after that, we finna have some, we finna have a good Kiki with Dr. Leanne, because she did not play with me, y'all. Okay, she'll play with me or about me. So we're finna get into it.

SPEAKER_00: 57:35

That day I didn't run from the rain. I ran into it. Because sometimes the only way to heal is to let heaven soak you. When I lost my daughter, the world went silent. I begged God to let me die too. Depression chained me, guilt buried me, shame tried to erase me. But then, in the middle of my breaking, I heard him whisper, Leanne, I want to drench you in grace. In that moment, I lifted my hand and let every drop wash the pain away, every burden, every secret, every tear. God wasn't punishing me, he was purifying me. He reminded me that I wasn't alone, that the same God who calms the storm was standing in it with me. His grace didn't just touch me, it drenched me. He is raising up daughters who carry his presence into the darkest places. Women who aren't afraid to get messy in the storm if it means someone else feels his reign. You see, the most powerful women aren't the loudest. They're the ones anchored in God, grounded in truth, wrapped in his love, and completely drenched in his grace. Experience the story that will wash your soul clean and remind you that God never wastes the storm. Drenched in Grace by Dr. Leanne Cerise, Hendrick H. C. From the Through the Rain Devotional Anthology. Pre-order today for$30 at www.beyondthecalling.com. Presented by Listen Linda Publishing, where healing meets purpose.

SPEAKER_04: 59:15

Dr. Lee Ann, Dr. Lee Ann, my good girlfriend, Dr. Lee Ann. How are you?

SPEAKER_03: 59:23

I'm doing good. God is good.

SPEAKER_04: 59:27

All the time with your beautiful self. Now you talk about being drenched in God's grace, not like lightly touched. What moment in your life felt like the biggest downpour of God's grace?

SPEAKER_03: 59:44

What moment?

SPEAKER_04: 59:46

Yes.

SPEAKER_03: 59:50

It was when I lost my daughter. Um, and I know that that alone is an event, but even in the midst of that event. It was really um having to make that decision and to truly like understand that when she was actually gone, like that was when I realized, yeah, I was drenched in grace at that moment.

SPEAKER_04: 1:00:18

And I want to ask you, what was the hardest part of surrendering during that storm? Like, what was the hardest part for you?

SPEAKER_03: 1:00:26

The hardest part of surrendering during that storm was trying to accept what had just happened. Um, because I gave birth to her and she was critically ill when she came into this world, and I could not truly understand why or how God would save her just to take her from me. Because that was the realization that I was dealing with. That would that was really that was the realization, that was my reality. Like he brought her into this world, yes, he took her out, but I couldn't understand how he saved her life and then allowed her to leave me. So that was, yeah, that was that was tough.

SPEAKER_04: 1:01:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 1:01:16

You know, I'ma over I'ma overcome over a lot of things, but that was definitely tough.

SPEAKER_04: 1:01:21

And I know it was it was hard for you to write. Um, we went back and forth like everybody did. Y'all know y'all fought me on this, but um, and I appreciate y'all fighting me on it, but I really wanted people to see it and feel it and be there in the moment with you because I think that's um like when I read a book or I read an anthology and I I have so many questions, right? Like after I be like, okay, so what happened? But what what about this? What happened with that? I need more. Like, and so I I read your chapters. Um, and everybody who I work with, um, I'll send your stuff back a hundred times if I don't get it. Because just like if I don't have questions, if I have if I don't have clarity as a reader, I know other people won't have clarity. And you want to bring people in that moment with you. And I know it hurts, but in order to get uh full, fully healed, you have to let it all out. I feel like I I'm a firm believer, right? Uh Leah, and you know I've said this a million times. If you're gonna tell all your business, if you're gonna tell your business, tell it all, or don't tell nothing because you leave gaps and holes, and then one thing you don't want to do is confuse your audience or confuse the reader or have them feeling like they didn't get it, they don't understand it because if you do that, then you lose the audience and you lose the reader. And so I appreciate you all. Um, but especially um you, right? Um, your chapter was a lot different than everybody else's because you talk about, you know, you're you know, losing your child. And you know, I love you and I love me, Cerese. So, you know, I had to make sure that I try to tread lightly uh when when when asking you for feedback, right? Um, but I tried to kind of do it like you say with this drenched in grace, right? I I try to move lightly because you know you can't you gotta move lightly with Leanne because she's gonna cut, she ain't gonna play with you. I call it force and she ain't gonna play with so what does grace look like for you now on the other side of this? Like, what does it look like for you now? And I'm not meaning that you're not still there, right? I I wanna be clear, right? But what do I'm talking about on the other side of finishing this chapter?

SPEAKER_03: 1:03:42

What does grace grace look like? Yes, um, it looks like resilience, um strength, when you don't want to be strong, it looks it looks like uh it's a beautiful thing.

SPEAKER_04: 1:04:01

Yes, it is.

SPEAKER_03: 1:04:02

Uh what it what it did teach me was that I could still be in pain and still have the glory of the Lord on me.

unknown: 1:04:10

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03: 1:04:10

And so when I see people, even like today, when I see people and they say, you're just a breath of fresh air or you're a ray of sunshine, that's grace. When others who are ailing, and some of them are doing some of them are dealing with the same thing that you've already experienced, but they don't even realize that you are them.

SPEAKER_04: 1:04:32

Yep, because you're handling it so well, and that's God's grace. That's you being grace.

SPEAKER_03: 1:04:38

Grace is when you don't even realize that I've gone through anything, and most people don't know. That's what that's what God's grace would do. It'll have you looking shiny and pure as gold. When you don't even feel like you feel like you ain't nothing but a bag of a bag of dirty rags, but it'll have you looking like the cleanest of everything. It'll have you smiling, it'll have you in tears without teardrops coming out your eyes, you know. So when people say, Well, why you smile so much? Ain't nothing but God's grace. Amen. It ain't nothing but it ain't nothing but God's grace. Literally.

SPEAKER_04: 1:05:28

Now I want to ask you, what part of this anthology made you say, God, this is why you had me here?

SPEAKER_03: 1:05:38

I know that I have a story to tell. And God told me that when he saved me, um, because I made an exchange with him, right? I told God if he pulled me out of the rut that I was in, um, if he saved my life, if he helped me to overcome. Um, and I know a lot of people don't like to know that people bargain with God, but that was my plea, right? I said every opportunity that I get, whether it's 10 seconds, an hour, or in this case, a whole chapter, 1,200 words, 5,000 words, I'm gonna say it.

SPEAKER_04: 1:06:15

So God be the glory.

SPEAKER_03: 1:06:17

You know, I'm his mouthpiece. I'm his mouthpiece, and I made a promise to him. He made promises to me. I've made a promise to him, and I refuse to allow anything to stop me from at least upholding my side of the bargain.

SPEAKER_04: 1:06:33

I want to ask you one more one more question before we move on to the next person. Um, how did writing this chapter deepen your appreciation for God's grace?

SPEAKER_03: 1:06:50

How did this it deepen my appreciation because um it made me dig deep? I mean, well, through you, it made me dig deep. It made me drive my it made me drive my tears, it made me pull my big girl boomers up. And and and it actually it actually helped me because you can think, and I know there's several women on this platform right now that probably can understand this. You can think that you have overcome something. Yes, I'm an overcomer. I'm shaming the devil right now. I am an overcomer. However, you can think that you've grown and you have overcome something, but it's not until you really start writing um and you start pulling off, pulling those layers back. It's kind of like when you're sitting with yourself, that that's when you realize that it's two things you're gonna learn from that. You either want to learn how far you've come or how far you need to go. And so writing, writing my chapter helped me to see that I've come a long way because there was a time where I couldn't even put two words on the paper. And now, and now I'm like, okay, I'm at my limit. I got so much more to say. So I know that God graced me with um the strength and the ability to get it out. But writing my chapter, it let me see that I've grown, and it also let me see that I've got a long way to go. But for me to actually be being drenched in his grace is good, but I have to give myself the same grace. Absolutely. That's what I was waiting for. Yeah, writing this chapter allowed me to forgive myself, not to be so hard on myself, to give myself the same grace that God has given me.

SPEAKER_04: 1:08:35

Absolutely, that's what I was waiting on, girl. Waiting on okay. Well, I thank you. You know, you my you my girl, you and Dr. Audrey, and they're my forces, y'all. Right there. They do not play. I love it. I really don't. Okay, you do not play about listen, Linda child, Jacqueline Cox, listen, Linda. Y'all do not play. I love, I appreciate y'all so much. Um, next up, we got my girl, my girl, my girl. Tia Strickland with her chapter entitled Beauty After the Rain. I'm gonna play her trailer and then we're gonna get back and we're gonna um get to Tia and ask her some questions about her chapter right here.

SPEAKER_00: 1:09:25

For over 21 years, I carried a story that lived inside me. Silence wasn't healing, it was hiding. Beauty after the rain, a chapter by Tia Strickland. But I am not what was done to me. I am what I chose to become. Beauty after the rain. Through the rain devotional anthology, where women from all walks of life tell their stories of how God brought them through their toughest storms. Pre-order now from Tia Strickland for$30 by contacting her directly. Listen, Linda presents. Through the Rain Devotional Anthology Coming Winter 2025, walk through the rain with us.

SPEAKER_05: 1:10:15

She's a turtle and dying to know this was not what the love's over.

SPEAKER_04: 1:10:21

All right, Tia Strickland, baby. Tia came in soft but strong. Okay, gentle but powerful. Tia, your chapter speaks to finding beauty after devastation. What was the ugliest storm that you survived that later produced beauty?

SPEAKER_13: 1:10:48

Me being raped by my father, my biological father.

SPEAKER_04: 1:10:55

And you spoke about that.

SPEAKER_13: 1:10:57

I took a lot out of it. I did. The first time ever.

SPEAKER_04: 1:11:05

Can you give us like what was the ugliest part of that that you survived? Like how I I want you to go deeper and kind of explain your answer.

SPEAKER_13: 1:11:15

I would say the ugliest part would have to be me testifying against my father in the courtroom. People may ask, well, why why not the rape in you know itself? No, I I dealt with that, but the hardest part was having to testify against him. And you know, you know, my twin sister have to lose our father.

SPEAKER_04: 1:11:46

You write in such a reflective. You you write in such a reflective, healing voice. Um what was the hardest truth for you to face while writing this chapter?

SPEAKER_13: 1:12:06

If you would have seen my keyboard when I was typing this, it was just flooded because I had to release and to relive every moment, but it wasn't for myself, it was for somebody else. So that was the hardest part that I had to do just by putting it all out on paper.

SPEAKER_04: 1:12:27

Yeah, because you know, they like to say um uh a lot of my contributing writers have like to say that they are the victim of my feedback. Because my feedback when I got my okay, go a little deeper. Tell me a little bit more about this, tell me a little bit more about that. And uh Yeah, you did you got me. You got me. This is it. This is it. And I'm like, nope, this ain't it yet. Um Pamela Nance Johnson said that trigger warning was much needed. Absolutely, it was, it was, it was. It was a definitely a shell shock for me. This is another first um as far as uh devotional stat um and anthologies that I've done over the course of these last few years, and I've read something like that, um, to that death and that extreme. Um, and I appreciate you so much for being so transparent and vulnerable in that moment. Um I want to ask you, what does after the rain look like for your life now?

SPEAKER_13: 1:13:32

After the rain. I still get a few raindrops. I have to be honest. But I'm living a different person. I've let that person die. Um I'm over the rainbow. I can now look back at that and be like, this has brought me through. Where, you know, I'm now a mother of three. I'm a wife, um full-time worker, you know, public speaker, you know, for domestic violence and for sexual assault awareness, where I speak to, you know, I go to the jails and then I even speak to the kids. That's overcoming and you know, in support groups.

SPEAKER_04: 1:14:20

What did you discover about yourself while writing your chapter?

SPEAKER_13: 1:14:30

I had to or I discovered that I could do it. For 21 years I held on to it. I kept telling myself I couldn't or I wasn't. Um I discovered that I had that inner strength that I knew I had, but I just had to believe in myself to believe that I can do it and that I can't show it.

SPEAKER_04: 1:14:56

Absolutely. Because you you did and you did a phenomenal job. I'm not girl. When I say yours was the least one that I had to like the least edits, um, she did a phenomenal job. Um how did this sisterhood support you through that healing?

SPEAKER_13: 1:15:16

The whole group was uplifting. As many times I text you, I'm done, I'm over it, I can't do it. And then just motivation just to just to read the motivation in that group chat. Um, even now, up to the day, I still go back through it sometimes when I'm having a little down moment just to get that positive motivation to keep me going. Um, I don't say many words to anybody, but people don't understand that I do read a lot. So I may not comment in the group chat, but I'm reading. I'm taking in those motivation words, I'm taking in those words of encouragement. You know, those would really push to me and keep me going. So I feel like this the sisterhood is like a forever thing.

SPEAKER_04: 1:16:06

Yes, yes, it is. Pamela said, What an amazing night with powerful testimonies. I cannot wait to read them all. Pamela, I really need we got one more. We got one more. I need you to hold on, Pam. Hold on, don't go nowhere, Pam. Pam, hold on. Don't go nowhere. Don't leave yet. Just one more. Loretta Morton says, My girl Tia, strong from the gate, watching you grow into being strong and carry your torch while you carry your umbrella that keeps the sun shining in your life and not allowing you to drown in the rain. You have always had strength, and you are one of my favorites. Look at you are one of God's favorites too. Keep pushing, God got you. You are my Shiro. Dorcas said, Beauty after the rain, over the rainbow, set free. I will be reading. That's what Loretta said, and Dorcas. So thank you, ladies, so much. Um now um I want to go to um thank you so much, Tia. Um, your transparency, your truth, and y'all don't even know. Y'all think her story in this is crazy. Wait till you heat see and read her new memoir that's coming out that she goes fully in depth. Um, she is a part of Listen Linda 21 Day Boot Camp, and she is coming out with what's the name of your book?

SPEAKER_13: 1:17:34

Why do you do that? You know, I can never. I can never.

SPEAKER_04: 1:17:40

Echoes.

SPEAKER_13: 1:17:42

Echoes.

unknown: 1:17:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13: 1:17:43

I don't even remember the whole thing. Blame it to my output.

SPEAKER_04: 1:17:48

I just so echoes, okay. We can't get y'all everything anyway. Okay, so it's called just coming this week, coming soon, coming up soon, okay. The trailer is coming soon, too. So just be waiting on it. Thank you so much, Tia. I love you. You know, you my little sister, they get on my nerve, but I love you so much, okay? And I cannot wait to continue working with you. Now, last but certainly not least, is Miss Yolanda Adams and not open up my heart, okay? This is my mama yo. Uh, a friend of mine, she's that I went to school with, Laquitia Hollister. This is her mom, Yolanda Adams, and I call her Mama Yo. Um, and we went to college together, and I want to first um her chapter is called, her chapter is called When Home Becomes a Storm, God Became My Shelter. Now we will get into her trailer.

SPEAKER_00: 1:18:52

Night and a blow from her own mom with a steel crowbar that shattered more than just her teeth. Love it, love it. She survived the storm. She survived the screen. And now her testimony is setting others free. Go get your copy of the rain devotional anthology. Now available on Amazon. Let your mind's testimony remind you that even in your storm, God is still your shelter.

SPEAKER_06: 1:20:22

What happened to that awful word? Can you tell me the question of the Honor?

SPEAKER_04: 1:20:36

Yolanda, Yolanda, Yolanda. Woo wee. Uh, I just want to say that this book, I have done so many anthologies, and everybody, um, their their conversation is usually the same, right? You usually get stories about uh the man cheating or you know um uh illness or death in a family, right? Is you know, you usually get those types. But with this anthology, with your ladies' chapters, um, Dr. Audrey Ann speaking about, you know, divorcing, coming back after 23 years, I never had nobody talk about that before. I've had nobody talk about manipulation and the spiritual warfare behind it, like Dr. Leah Kelly. I've had nobody talk about being, you know, sexually assaulted and raped by their own father like Tia have. I have I haven't talked about anybody going through storms in their life where they felt like the only way to break out of that was through dance and spiritual warfare coming at them at every angle. Mila did that. Natasha talked about her home caving in, but her life caving in at the same time. You ladies in these chapters are uh Lee Ann and her talking about the death of her daughter and just being so so vulnerable. Like these are different types of stories that a lot of times when I was looking through the devotionals and the anthologies that I've done before, it's kind of always the same story. So a lot of times people feel like there's nobody in there that that understands what I'm going through, though, because I'm going through this. So you guys are bringing those, you ladies are bringing those stories to light, and I applaud and appreciate you. But Yolanda Adams, I have never not just not read anything, but I've not um produced anything like this before, but I have not read anything like this before. I have not experienced anybody talk or go through anything like you have before. And for you to choose, listen, Linda Publishing to tell this story, I thank you so much. Because your chapter, this one is for every survivor. Um, you wrote bravely about storms happening inside of your own home. The place that's meant to protect you is supposed to be your safe space. Um, what does safety look like for you during that season in your life?

SPEAKER_11: 1:23:27

Um when I was, it was non-existent. Um I didn't have anyone to talk to. So I found myself praying and uh being like really involved in church and just because I kind of was like in denial, like this is really happening to me. I'm like 14 years old. I'm like, you know, I was in church, saved, no problem. You know, people want kids that are, you know, good achievers. And for me to have to go through all of the trauma and the abuse with my mother when I was doing everything good. And it felt undeserved. It felt undeserved.

SPEAKER_04: 1:24:22

Because when you say you were doing everything good, explain, explain to the audience what you mean by you were doing everything good.

SPEAKER_11: 1:24:30

Everything good, like I uh I mentioned, it would be like um my mother would um do maybe something to my father, or maybe she felt like she didn't want to cook. And if I decided, you know, I'm gonna solve the problem by cooking, or I'm gonna solve the problem by writing a bill, or doing whatever that thing that she decided that she didn't want to do, um, then she looked at me as like, you know, once I say I'm not I'm not gonna do it, then you're not gonna do it. And I thought I was making peace, but it worked against me because then then that's when the abuse initially started.

SPEAKER_04: 1:25:19

How did you how did God use that storm to reveal your strength?

SPEAKER_11: 1:25:26

So um again, what I end up doing, even at such a young age, I would be laying out on the floor praying at two or three o'clock in the morning. Never really realizing that at that time is where God was really giving me a prayer life. So at three or four o'clock now, even still, I pray and I intercede on behalf of other people when everybody else is going on about their business, you know, and I still feel that way at 14 and feel like 60. I'm the person that is trying to fix the world, pray for the world, intercede for my family.

SPEAKER_04: 1:26:29

What would you tell the woman who is still living inside her house size storm today? Like somebody who is trapped inside of those walls, and like you say, just never had that safe space because the mom or the dad is not providing any type of safe space for them. Like, what would you tell that woman who is still living inside of that house?

SPEAKER_11: 1:26:56

You know, it it's you have to make people accountable even though it's uncomfortable. And sometimes, you know, I never talked about it. So even now, many, many years later, even after having extensive dental work, I feel like I'm talking about it now because both of my parents are deceased, and the all of the dental work that I had is beginning to fade. So it's only so much that you're gonna continue to hide. So you have to be able to trust somebody to be, you know, somebody to to also help you because you can't carry those burdens on your own. And now also being a mother and a and and a grandmother, I don't want that for my children. I so you know, you know, I ask myself, why now? You know, it's been many years.

SPEAKER_04: 1:28:07

But because this was something that you didn't even tell your kids about your mom.

SPEAKER_11: 1:28:14

Right. I never told my kids that what happened. My kids still don't know that she she did that. No, I never I never shared with my kids that my mother was the one who hit me in my mouth when with the cob with the crowbar. Never. But they need to know now because they need to be able to make better better choices in with their own relationships and be able to, you know, see see signs, and then you know, we pacify stuff and we we just try to make it think like, oh, you know, it you know you know it you know, just making a whole bunch of excuses instead of holding people accountable and making better choices, who you want to, you know, have children with, who you you want to live with, you know, who you want to get married to.

SPEAKER_04: 1:29:17

Because that mask that mask can only be there for so long, but people meet you the um I I I I was watching somebody say this the other day, I can't remember who it was, but they said you meet the representative first and then you meet the person. But with you, it was different because it was no representative there. You you lived with that person. Um, how did writing this in this anthology help you to reclaim that voice? What do you think happened while writing in this anthology? Well, I gave you some feedback too.

SPEAKER_11: 1:29:56

Yes, you gave me plenty of feedback and And even then with the feedback that you you required I still was very much trying to protect my mother. You know, I I I just was like, oh, you know, well, she hit me with the uh just crow like a metal object, but no, she hit me with a tire iron iron uh crowbar, which is specifically made for a tire repair. So that just shows the the lack of concern that she even had about my well-being. She wanted to hurt me. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't a a broomstick or something, you know.

SPEAKER_04: 1:30:49

Like something normal for Chicago to eat, you know. But we get to broomsticks all the time over here in Chicago.

SPEAKER_11: 1:30:55

Yeah, and and but that still happened over when my I was adult over my 30s. So for somebody to cause themselves still wanting to whoop you and you 30, 32, 33 years old, it's some type of mental illness or something going on. You know, I have a 20, my my my kids, I wouldn't, I don't even try to fight my kids. So for me to have kids and then to think about my mother will still call herself chastising me when I was real grown. I mean, I was a real adult.

SPEAKER_04: 1:31:38

What does it mean to you now, knowing that your truth is is is going to um potentially, not potentially, it is going to set others free from from domestic violence. Like getting your story told now, what does that mean to you?

SPEAKER_11: 1:31:58

Well, I'm I'm super excited. Um you know, at first I was questioning it because I kind of thought, you know, that I was gonna get feedback from my family. Um, maybe, you know, some smart comments or something like that, or maybe they would feel like a sense of betrayal, also. You know, but nobody protected me, and I don't have to protect my mother because she's or my dad or my grandmother. So those are the three key people that I try to protect, and I know no longer have to protect those um individuals anymore. But you know, they all made excuses for my mother's behavior, and they didn't protect you, they didn't protect the kid. They did not.

SPEAKER_04: 1:32:58

Well, I want to thank you because I know um I I was on the phone with you, and I know um I was on the phone with all of you ladies, actually, all 12 of you ladies, and so I know um what it took for you all to go, and I appreciate you all trusting me in this process to to get that story out. Um, and a lot of times we don't understand how much our story affects us until we get it out, until we tell that truth. And like um Milo um so eloquently put it, um, that a lot of times, you know, when we tell our, I think I don't know if that was Milo or if it was Natasha, but one of you all said that when you tell your truth and you keep telling your truth, you unpack those hurtful things and you're able to let them go. I want to say it, I don't think it was both of you, um, but that is so true. When you when you write it out and you let it out, um it it really heals you because we talked about that over the phone, me and you. You said is this gonna be a therap, a therapeutic thing for me. So, what do you think was it therapeutic for you after going through this process with me um and and letting it go and being able to speak on it? Was it therapeutic for your healing?

SPEAKER_11: 1:34:20

Oh, absolutely, absolutely. Um it was, and um, I'm like, it's a sense of um a release. I feel like, you know, now it's something I don't have to hide anymore. You know, and the the the therapeutic part of it is also is when something happens to you like that, you think that you somehow deserved it. You know, yeah, and now I can really say it happened to me, but that's not who I am, and I didn't deserve it, and I don't have to hide it, so I don't have to start lying, you know. Now this scar is becoming more and more visible, and now I'm thinking, oh my this scar is showing, my tooth is starting to crack. What uh I gotta say something creative as to what happened. No, my mother hit me in my mouth. That's what happened. You know, I didn't I didn't bump it. I didn't, you know what I'm saying? That's what happened.

SPEAKER_04: 1:35:35

Well, we appreciate you, we love you, we support you, and we we're gonna keep encouraging you to um continue to tell your truth because no matter what anybody else says, you have to live it, you have to go through these things. And like I told you when we first met, so I'm glad y'all on here today. Who did I tell you to speak with? Dr. Audrey Ann. Contact Dr. Audrey Ann. Um, she she is a gym, but she's also a Christian life coach and a psychologist, and anybody who needs any type of help and therapy um to get through these things, and you are a Christian, you know. I really want you to contact Dr. Audrey Ann because I would not be as calm, cool, and collected as I am as if it was not for the Lord, Dr. Velma, and Dr. Audrey. So Dr. Velma helped me through some other things, but Dr. Audrey Ann, that is my go-to for spiritual counseling and just to get through hard things in life, she's really able to uh work with me on those things. So if you guys have not connected with Dr. Audrey Ann, I would I would encourage all my ladies uh to do so. She takes insurance, okay? But the cash, okay. So contact Dr. Audrey, and you know, you know, I'm gonna plug my my people all the time. That's what I do now. Before we end, ladies, I have this thing in the book club. Um listen in the book club live that I do. So, ladies, I want you all to answer with the first thing that comes to mind, okay? And I'm gonna call you all by name. So I'm gonna start with you, Yolanda. Umbrella or no umbrella?

SPEAKER_11: 1:37:25

Umbrella?

SPEAKER_04: 1:37:27

Leah, umbrella or no umbrella?

SPEAKER_02: 1:37:30

No umbrella.

SPEAKER_04: 1:37:32

Milo, umbrella or no umbrella? Mila is not here right now. Oh, okay, umbrella. Okay, um, Natasha, umbrella or no umbrella?

SPEAKER_10: 1:37:47

Umbrella, Dr.

SPEAKER_04: 1:37:49

Audrey Ann, umbrella or no umbrella? Umbrella umbrella and Tia, umbrella or no umbrella?

SPEAKER_13: 1:37:58

No umbrella.

SPEAKER_04: 1:38:00

Okay, we're going back with Yolanda favorite scripture you clung to during your storm? Just the scripture, you don't have to say it, just the just the verse or the scripture. Um the scripture. So one of the two. So you can say the verse or you can say the scripture.

SPEAKER_11: 1:38:19

Isaiah um 46 and 10.

SPEAKER_02: 1:38:23

Yeah, okay, Leah, Isaiah 54 and 17.

SPEAKER_04: 1:38:30

Mila.

SPEAKER_12: 1:38:38

Beauty for ashes, picture.

SPEAKER_04: 1:38:41

Okay, that's all you gotta say. Don't don't you even gotta do your research. It's it's it's lightning round. Um, but I know which one you're talking about, beauty for ashes.

SPEAKER_10: 1:38:49

Okay, um, Natasha Lamentations 322 three three twenty-three.

SPEAKER_04: 1:38:58

That's the other one. You know, that's the one that's on your video.

SPEAKER_14: 1:39:01

Um Psalms 23. I I'm not sure if it's four or five, but um, you know, it talks about walking in the valley of death. I will fear no angel, but thou art with me.

SPEAKER_04: 1:39:17

Yes. Tia, which one is yours?

SPEAKER_13: 1:39:20

Proverbs three, five, and six.

SPEAKER_04: 1:39:23

Proverbs three, five, and six. And mine is Psalms 91, the secret place. Um rain. Um when you think about rain, Yolana, soothing or triggering?

SPEAKER_11: 1:39:38

Triggering.

SPEAKER_04: 1:39:41

Leah, smooth soothing or triggering.

SPEAKER_12: 1:39:46

Soothing.

SPEAKER_04: 1:39:48

Mylla, soothing or triggering?

SPEAKER_12: 1:39:52

Soothing.

SPEAKER_04: 1:39:53

Natasha, soothing or triggering?

SPEAKER_12: 1:39:57

Soothing.

SPEAKER_04: 1:39:59

And soothing or triggering.

SPEAKER_15: 1:40:02

Definitely soothing. I'm a water girl.

SPEAKER_04: 1:40:06

Tia soothing or triggering.

SPEAKER_15: 1:40:08

Soothing.

SPEAKER_04: 1:40:10

I will also say soothing. And um uh mama yo, what healed you the fastest? Prayer, journaling, worship, or your community? Worship, Leah. Prayer. Milo. Prayer and journaling. Natasha?

SPEAKER_15: 1:40:36

Prayer and community.

SPEAKER_04: 1:40:39

Dr. R.

SPEAKER_15: 1:40:41

I think I'd have to say prayer and journaling. Tia, worship and prayer.

SPEAKER_04: 1:40:48

And I will say all of the above. Yeah. All of the above. Yolanda, I needed all of it, chat. I think I wrote about 20 books to help me. That's how you don't happen. Um, Yolanda, one word to describe who you are now.

SPEAKER_02: 1:41:08

Free.

SPEAKER_04: 1:41:10

That's so wonderful. Um, Leah. Oh Mila.

SPEAKER_10: 1:41:19

Restore. Natasha. I would have to say restore it, Tia.

SPEAKER_04: 1:41:28

Ann.

SPEAKER_14: 1:41:32

I think I want to say liberated.

SPEAKER_04: 1:41:34

Liberate. That's a great one. Tia.

SPEAKER_14: 1:41:39

Transformed.

SPEAKER_04: 1:41:41

Transformed. And I will say refined. And now, y'all, it is time. It is time. Okay. Get your screens ready. Get your screenshots ready because right here, right now, we are debuting our official New York Times Billboard. Let's do it. Okay, I gotta do it again. Yes, yes, yes. That is our B a board and the time square is only 15 seconds now. So you gotta hurry up and see it, okay? But you can still check it out. Um, live. If you go to my page right now, I have the link there. It comes up every 49 minutes on every hour up until midnight tonight. So if you have not seen it live, you got two minutes. You can go on there right now and see it, okay? Look at God won't do it. Chicago to Townsquare, baby. That's how God move, okay? So I want to thank all you ladies, all you ladies for trusting, listen, Linda Publishing with your stories, with your life, with your with your reign, right? Um, and I appreciate every single one of you ladies. I truly do. I know I was hard on y'all, but they don't call me major pain for nothing, okay? So I appreciate y'all. I love y'all like Christ loved the church. I'm gonna close out in prayer right now. God, thank you for the rain that did not drown us, the storms that did not break us, and the testimonies that now free others cover every woman on this panel, every woman in this anthology, Lord God, everyone listening, and every reader who picks up this book. Let this anthology continue, Lord God, to travel, touch, and transform lives in Jesus' mighty name. Amen. Again, again, I want to say do not order this from Amazon, do not order it from Amazon. Get it from one of these ladies on this panel tonight, please. If you heard a testimony and it moved you and it touched you in any way, I want you to connect with these ladies right now. I'm gonna do a round robin, and I want you ladies to tell us, tell the audience where they can pre-order the book from you. How can they contact you? I'm gonna start with Leah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:44:49

You all can inbox me if you would like to get a copy, autograph copy of the book. You can cash at me as Prophetess Leah Kelly. Once again, you can cash at me at Prophetess Leah Kelly to get your autograph copy of the book. Please inbox me. Thank you.

SPEAKER_04: 1:45:06

Okay, so here is her name on the screen on Facebook, and her cash tag is right here, Prophetess Leah Kelly. All one word, okay. And um, her name on Facebook is Leah Kelly. Dr. Audrey, and how can they contact you?

SPEAKER_14: 1:45:25

Just like there, transition life coach for you, number fourlettery.com, and just go into contacts and send me a note. Or it's on my new releases, so you can just go there. But or like um as Leah said, you can get me on Cash App Audreen CMoses. Um, Cash App.

SPEAKER_04: 1:45:50

So that's Audrey Ann Facebook C Moses. They can Cash App you there as well. Yes. And here's her Cash App tag right here, Audrey Ann C Moses. You can Cash App her there as well. Tia, how can people contact you to get a signed copy from you?

SPEAKER_13: 1:46:11

Um, Facebook, Tia Bia, T-I-A-B-I-A. Or you can look at my website, Tia Stickland. S-T-I-C-K-L-A-N-D with no R.

SPEAKER_04: 1:46:26

Tia Stickland.com.

SPEAKER_09: 1:46:31

Yes.

SPEAKER_04: 1:46:32

So there it is on the screen, tia stickland.com. Next we have Myla. Myla, how can people purchase the book from you?

SPEAKER_12: 1:46:45

Face um, Facebook, Mylla Marie.

SPEAKER_04: 1:46:50

Facebook Mila Marie, and you can give them the information once they contact you?

SPEAKER_09: 1:46:55

Yes, yes. Okay.

SPEAKER_04: 1:46:57

So Facebook, this is her name, Myla Marie. And who else do I have? Natasha, how can people contact you?

SPEAKER_10: 1:47:07

You can contact me through Facebook at Natasha Hagins and message me.

SPEAKER_04: 1:47:14

So this is your name on Facebook, Natasha Hagins. Okay, so you can contact her there, inbox her, and she will let you know how to pre-order a signed copy from her. Uh, Mama, yo, how can people pre-order from you?

SPEAKER_11: 1:47:32

From my Facebook, Yolanda Adams. And then also my Cash App is the dollar sign shoes00.

SPEAKER_04: 1:47:44

Okay, shoes double O, Yolanda Adams. So you can contact her. You can find her on Facebook under Yolanda Adams, not the gospel singer, but she got tunes, but not the gospel singer. And you can Cash App her, your$30 at Dollar Sign Shoes Double Zero. I want to thank all you ladies again for coming in. Um, sometimes the rain wasn't sent to destroy you, it was sent to wash off what you were never meant to carry. Because your storm was not your sentence, it was your setup. And if you're standing and you're still standing, baby, that means the forecast was wrong about you too. I love you all. Congratulations to every queen on this project. And remember, stand in the rain because there is definitely healing from it. I love you all. God bless you all. Have a great rest of your night. Oh, thank you. And while you at it, please stream my newest single on all platforms called I Choose You. Stream it. Your girl is a singer, okay. I got two songs out. I'll be debuting my other one tomorrow, which is called Crown versus Crosses. I love you all like Christ loves the church. Peace. Thank you.