Shavonne’s Journey to Sustainable Interior Innovation

When my niece Shavonne Winston decided to leap from the structured world of criminal justice into the swirling colors of interior design, little did she realize how her passion for eco-conscious living would reshape not just spaces, but lives. This episode is a tapestry woven from Shavonne tales, recounting her transformative journey and the birth of ReStyle Living, where she marries sustainability with style. Her insights into repurposing with purpose offer listeners a treasure trove of practical tips for breathing eco-friendly life into their homes, using everything from Feng Shui to savvy organization.

Picture this: a pandemic hits, and the world is forced indoors, sparking a universal quest for sanctuary in our own spaces. Shavonne shares how this global pause led her from Wisconsin's familiarity to Atlanta's vibrant design scene, embracing freelance opportunities and the art of upcycling. She recounts the unexpected role social media played in expanding her business and influencing sustainable living. Our conversation dances through her innovative solutions for single men's spaces to the charm of thrifted finds, proving design has no one-size-fits-all.

We wrap up with Shavonne Winston from Restyle Living, whose expertise in furniture facelifts brings both laughter and learning to our chat. The garage may be full, and the car might be parked outside, but the ideas for rejuvenating living spaces are limitless. Her tales of revamping armoires and the promise of upcoming collaborations with Shavonne tease at the exciting horizons of restyling. Join us for an episode that celebrates creativity, sustainability, and the joy of turning the place you live into a place you love.

Transcript

Charlie Shaw : 0:01

Hey, good evening. This is Charlie Shaw, aka. Who am I? Little Mel. This is Little Mel podcast show, and my next guest is my niece. I'm going to allow her to introduce herself to you folks.

Shavonne: 0:15

Hey everyone, my name is Siobhan Winston. I am an interior designer and organizer and the founder of ReStyle Living. We are here to help you get your home organized, designed and just for you to live a more eco-friendly lifestyle.

Charlie Shaw : 0:34

Right, right, yes. When you visited my house, that was one of the main things I asked you. I was like am I living eco-friendly? You said no, not really, but you tried you had some stuff.

Shavonne: 0:44

I was like, hey, you had that. What was it? That solar stream, that's good.

Charlie Shaw : 0:48

I was trying. You got a lot of good stuff. Yes, I like my carbonated water.

Shavonne: 0:54

Yes, I love it too. I had to grab myself one after I went to the house. I'm like oh yeah, I need to get one of these so that I don't have to get used to the sodas and everything on it. So it definitely helps out.

Charlie Shaw : 1:08

So Siobhan is. She's married to my nephew, adrian you guys heard him before and they are entrepreneurs and I'm very impressed with both of them. They've built a success for themselves and they're doing very well. Siobhan, tell us about what it is that you actually do and how are you helping folks. From what I understand, you want us to live eco-friendly.

Shavonne: 1:37

Yes, it's time to get back, go back to old school ways and just pay attention to the environment, live in more eco-friendly and just doing our part to help, because we only have one earth and it's time to do our part for that.

Charlie Shaw : 2:02

So if you went into someone's home, if somebody hired you as consultant for interior design, what are one of the things that you can suggest to them?

Shavonne: 2:14

So really just depending. Again, I do interior design work, organizing, and I do like to incorporate the sustainability aspect, so I go in. I try to help people live a more or less chaotic lifestyle. So if they're, I like to help with the Feng Shui and the area. So that's really just how your home is laid out, to give you that peace of mind the fluidity, the flow.

Shavonne: 2:45

So I'll go in. I'm doing assessment of the house, see what areas in the house need that extra help, if it needs some organization or if it needs some design. And I do like to incorporate in my design elements just functional items, stuff that are multi-purpose, something like if you have a coffee table but you need more storage, something that like lifts up where you can store stuff in there. So just try to give people that multi-purpose aspect.

Charlie Shaw : 3:15

When you were at my house you found different stuff, because I'm a bachelor, I don't have all that in the house. You actually incorporated different things that we use as a pan. You basically draped something over and did it as a serving dish. I'm like I wouldn't even thought about it.

Shavonne: 3:32

Multi-functional? Yes, yes. So just try to see what we can use with what you already have existing, so you don't have to go out and purchase all new things.

Charlie Shaw : 3:42

So you're from.

Shavonne: 3:45

I'm originally from San Antonio, texas. Okay, yes.

Charlie Shaw : 3:49

And you went to school, where At Tennessee State University in Nashville. What's your discipline?

Shavonne: 3:55

I graduated with a graphic design degree, went back to school in 2016 for interior design and that's where I got my certification from the New York Institute of Art and Design.

Charlie Shaw : 4:06

Very impressive, thank you. What did you get into interior design?

Shavonne: 4:11

Really, I always had the love for art growing up, so when I first went to school I was thinking I would have wanted to go for criminal justice.

Charlie Shaw : 4:20

Oh, you would fall in my field, yeah, or in your uncle field also, yes, exactly.

Shavonne: 4:24

Yes, yes. So I wanted to do that and then, once I got into it, I was like I took my first course. Is that intro to criminal justice?

Charlie Shaw : 4:33

and.

Shavonne: 4:33

I was like Do I really like?

Charlie Shaw : 4:35

this I'm like this is very boring to me it wasn't boring.

Shavonne: 4:39

It was it was actually really interesting, but it was something that I was like. I don't know if this is it. And then I started learning more and I looked into it. I wanted to be a sketch artist. So that's why I was like, OK, let me switch to art and still keep the criminal justice so I can be a sketch artist and do that. So it's still bringing the love of art that I had.

Charlie Shaw : 4:59

And to a feel that was boring. Yeah, but anyway, that feel really was boring. It was, and it was. I ate on it for 31 years.

Shavonne: 5:07

So I know, I know, it's just, I guess the classes. When I was sitting in there I'm like, ah, this isn't really me. So I definitely had to take a step back and look. And then I went to the art department, found the head of the art department and they introduced me into graphic design, and so that's when I fell in love with graphics, the digital aspect, logo design, branding, all that stuff.

Shavonne: 5:32

So, that's what I went to school for and I absolutely loved it. Yeah, I absolutely loved working doing graphics and all that stuff. But once I graduated it was so much harder to try to get a job in the field. So then I just ended up working at AT&T. Like once you get, you know, after you graduate, you go into just the workforce. That I did in the customer service and in stores at AT&T and I was there for about five years.

Charlie Shaw : 6:09

Was it a hotel also that you worked at?

Shavonne: 6:12

I did so after.

Charlie Shaw : 6:13

Because you were doing interior design for new build-outs.

Shavonne: 6:17

Yes, yes. So after I left AT&T, I was stuck in that rut and I was like I still need this art. So at that point, that's when I ended up going back to school and getting that certification for interior design and I landed a job. They still I was still in school, but it was a small hospitality firm and they gave me the chance to start working for them and that's where I got my start in interior design.

Charlie Shaw : 6:50

That was a blessing for you it was, definitely was. So we all know about the COVID air.

Shavonne: 6:55

Yes, ok.

Charlie Shaw : 6:57

How did you benefit from that? How did you turn lemons into lemonade?

Shavonne: 7:02

Yes, there we go, that's good. Because it was a struggle. So once the pandemic first hit, it was a lot going on At my job. They were still because we were considered essential workers.

Charlie Shaw : 7:16

Oh, you were.

Shavonne: 7:17

Yes, buildings were still. Everybody was still building different things, so they were still going. Hotels still needed to get finished. So at that point we were still in the office and I was getting a little scared because my sister-in-law she caught COVID and it was very rough. So I was getting nervous, just not. It was the unknown. We didn't know what was going on.

Shavonne: 7:44

He just hearing everything. So that really put me into the mindset like this company isn't really here for me. They just want me to do the work, they're not looking out for my well-being. So I was like it's time. So at that point I talked to my husband and we were like, ok, we need to make a transition. And towards the end of the pandemic that's when our lease was up we're like OK, we're going to make this move.

Charlie Shaw : 8:12

So we decided to Atlanta.

Shavonne: 8:14

So we decided to pack up our two-bedroom apartment and we were still in the transition. So we put our stuff in storage for about six months and we're going back and forth. He was here in Wisconsin. I was trying to find us a place in Atlanta. I have family there, so I stayed with them for a little while.

Shavonne: 8:31

So we were just moving back and forth for about six months to a year just trying to figure it out and in that time I was trying to just freelance, do my own thing. I'm like, ok, I feel confident in my design work and what I do and my knowledge. Let me try to see what I can do. So at that point I was designing for family and friends. So whoever wanted help or needed anything during the pandemic I was going. So I went to Texas for about three weeks I did my mom's house my sister's house, you actually did work in my place.

Charlie Shaw : 9:06

You turned my mirror into it was my mom's mirror.

Shavonne: 9:11

And it was gold.

Charlie Shaw : 9:12

And you turned that into a flat black.

Shavonne: 9:16

Yes, yes, just to match all the finishes and stuff that you have in the house.

Charlie Shaw : 9:21

Yes, that's beautiful.

Shavonne: 9:22

Thank you. I'm glad that we were able to transform that Just a heirloom piece?

Charlie Shaw : 9:28

Yeah, it's a heirloom. You know what's crazy is? I could have did it, but I don't have the eye.

Shavonne: 9:34

A lot of people say that.

Charlie Shaw : 9:36

I think, yeah, when you started it, I was like man, I didn't think about that, I don't have the eye, so I stay in my lane. I hear that.

Shavonne: 9:44

Yes, a lot of people that's a lot of people reach out to me. They're like I really don't know what to do. I kind of know, but I'd rather you help me with it and, like you said, I just love doing stuff like that and just upcycling. Again, that goes back to sustainability.

Charlie Shaw : 10:03

Explain to me what upcycling is.

Shavonne: 10:05

Upcycling. So you're just taking an item that's existing or thrifted and you just fix it up.

Charlie Shaw : 10:10

You're modernizing it OK, bringing it up to date.

Shavonne: 10:14

Yeah, bringing it back to date. So I love to go thrifting, find thrifting pieces fix it up.

Charlie Shaw : 10:20

I've seen you and everybody thrift store from Nashville all the way to Atlanta.

Shavonne: 10:24

I've always been at a thrift store. I've always been at a thrift store.

Charlie Shaw : 10:26

That's a new one. She's a, she also has time for lunch. And when I say I've seen her, she has a huge following on all social media. I'm going to give you a chance to brag about your accolades, your success.

Shavonne: 10:41

Yes, so really just after the pandemic hit, I kind of just wanted to share everything in this process of growing the business. So I decided to get on Instagram and try something new. So in 2020, that's when I was like okay, let me get on here and really take this seriously.

Charlie Shaw : 11:05

Right.

Shavonne: 11:05

Then TikTok just randomly popped up.

Charlie Shaw : 11:08

Right, it came out nowhere.

Shavonne: 11:10

Nowhere, and so everybody was talking about TikTok, and there are still people that were like, no, I'm not going to go to that. There's like it was still in the air. People were like no, yes, no. So I think I hit it in the beginning when it was still kind of fresh. Yes, so when I, when I signed up for it again, it was in the beginning of the pandemic and just bored my first post, I think, was me and Adrian doing a challenge where he was like trying to flip me over.

Charlie Shaw : 11:37

Oh yeah, we were supposed to do some random challenge.

Shavonne: 11:39

So we were like, let's try it. So that was my first ever post. And then I just started getting into like, okay, let me show how I'm decorated and organized in my house. And then from there it's just people started just just really paying attention and following along. And then I was like, okay, there's something here. So just through that whole travels, when I was designing spaces, I was editing it up and just sharing the final looks of before and afters. And then what? When it really popped off, is when I really found my niche, and that's in the sustainability sector. So I just I honed in. So I like to talk about, of course, home organizing, but in the home I like to share sustainable practices and how you can live more eco-friendly and what we can do to help the environment. And from there it's just taken off.

Charlie Shaw : 12:36

So do you have any solid demographics or are you helping out across the board? I mean like, for example, I'm a bachelor. You've seen my place. Yes, it's a little bigger than what it should be, but it's beautiful. How would you you could help me with downsizing and upsizing?

Shavonne: 12:56

Yeah, so that's basically. I don't want to like bring it in too small where it cuts out a lot of people. I wanted to try to have my content speak to everyone, anyone who's interested in sustainability, anyone who wants their home organized or wants just a cleaner look, just a well-designed home, because your home especially during the pandemic, everybody learned okay, we're in our home for a long time.

Shavonne: 13:26

And we wanted to look the best, we want to feel the best when we're at home. We want our home to be our sanctuary. So it's from then. That's when I've noticed like a lot of people just really just watching and seeing how they can make their homes look like that. So I don't really have a specific audience. Of course, as a black female, that's my main target is who comes to me, because it's just just I speak it Natural gravitation, but you're reaching out to everyone. Everyone, everyone, yes.

Charlie Shaw : 14:01

So don't be afraid to reach out to her. She can help you, regardless who you are Exactly. There's no discrimination, no definitely not.

Shavonne: 14:09

If you have a home and need organizing help or looking into trying to get learn more about sustainability, you can definitely learn. Come to my channel, restyle Living, and you'll learn so much. I give so many different tips on how to be eco-friendly, how to organize your house, different tips on how to design it and how to do it affordably.

Charlie Shaw : 14:32

Right.

Shavonne: 14:32

A lot of people that would design. They like the high end designs. That's just way too expensive. You really don't have to do that. You don't, you can. You can go thrifting and find good pieces.

Charlie Shaw : 14:43

Clean it up.

Shavonne: 14:44

Yeah, make it look good and have the same beautiful aesthetics as someone who spent millions.

Charlie Shaw : 14:49

I also saw that you start building out like on the walls, like different, like shelvings and all that yes. That will increase the value, well, increase the artistic look of your restless girl it does.

Shavonne: 15:02

Yes, it definitely does. So I'm living in a small one bedroom apartment currently, so just utilizing the space Right, all the space you have.

Charlie Shaw : 15:13

That includes the walls.

Shavonne: 15:13

Yes, Walls, ceilings, floors, so anywhere that you can add additional space. That's when I'm here for to get you to where you can have all day, like our closet. Me and Adrienne share a one small little closet, and I had to. I saw we have nine foot ceilings Right, so I ended up buying these storage cubes to put our shoes up top above our clothes, because we had no other room Right, so that was that was a way to be able to do that.

Charlie Shaw : 15:43

You also? What is that? Where you like to grow plants?

Shavonne: 15:48

Oh, I do, and what is that?

Charlie Shaw : 15:50

What did you do that really aggravates age?

Shavonne: 15:53

I think it's because. So I'm a country girl through and through, from Texas, texas Southern girl, and I love just getting my hands dirty, so I created this. It's a compost that I decided to put out in the garage.

Charlie Shaw : 16:16

She found a space.

Shavonne: 16:18

I did find a space. I tried to get it far, far enough away so he wouldn't be able to say anything, but it's still kind of he knows when it goes in there he's like it's in here.

Charlie Shaw : 16:27

I know it's here, but it helps.

Shavonne: 16:30

So that's what was I was we get a yard. I'm excited to do that. I wanted to try to see because just learning different things about how to grow up with a cop.

Charlie Shaw : 16:40

Yeah, I know your father, so I know you. I know you cut your first time All you was doing was talking about this, that I was like All right, man, you know where to win, right.

Shavonne: 16:51

He can't cut it off. He's from Paris, Tennessee, so you know that country comes out.

Charlie Shaw : 16:58

So tell me about this you were actually on a show, right?

Shavonne: 17:02

I was. So recently, in April, I did a show called Make it Mine. It was for a senior living facility. I was matched with a woman named. Her name was Dottie and she needed space for her second bedroom. She wanted to make it an art room, but she also her husband was also in there. He has Parkinson's and he's bedridden, so we needed to make a space that she can have her arts in there and still be able to be in that space with him.

Shavonne: 17:43

So he was actually living in that space and she wanted to put her she wanted to work in there with him so she can be able to do her arts and crafts right next to him, so we were able to open up the space. I did a whole built-in on the back wall so that I could store all her stuff.

Charlie Shaw : 18:02

I think that's what I was referring to.

Shavonne: 18:05

Yeah, so I could store all her art supplies and everything, and then I gave her a nice desk so she could do her arts and crafts there, and she absolutely loved it. The show actually is on YouTube. It aired in October on YouTube and it's been really good. I got great reactions from it, so I enjoyed it. It was a blessing to be able to help her.

Charlie Shaw : 18:36

And that show one more time is.

Shavonne: 18:37

It's called Make it Mine. Make it Mine, yes, okay.

Charlie Shaw : 18:40

Okay, make it Mine, and it's an interior design show Interior design show on YouTube yes, On YouTube. What else? Do you have any new projects that you're working on right now? I know that you're in town here on vacation with your husband. We're in Racine, Wisconsin, if we didn't mention that earlier, where we were raised up at. You're actually working on a project while you're on vacation.

Shavonne: 19:04

I am, so I'm multitasking. Yeah, I came in. I have a friend that he lives in at Lantan. His mom lives here and she needed help with her apartment. She has a two-bedroom, one-bath apartment that she's just been trying to get organized. She wants it to feel more spacious. A lot of her items were bigger size from her old place.

Charlie Shaw : 19:32

Right.

Shavonne: 19:33

And now that she's downsized she's just trying to make sure it's enough space and it's well organized. So I came in, I gave him a design concept and the other day I actually went to measure the space to make sure that everything that we decide to purchase will fit Okay and it won't be too large or too small in this space.

Charlie Shaw : 19:51

So, with that being said, what are you doing with her old furniture and all that?

Shavonne: 19:56

She's wanting to keep it. She has a few people that she said that she wanted to donate it to, okay, and then she has pieces that she wants to keep and then a lot of her sentimental items. I definitely want to make sure that stays in the home. So she has a few things. I just want to rearrange it, make sure that it's in where so, when she walks around the space, that she doesn't have any like hazard, like trip hazards or anything when she's trying to come.

Charlie Shaw : 20:22

I think that's the problem with a lot of us. Sometimes our furniture is way too big.

Shavonne: 20:28

Yes.

Charlie Shaw : 20:30

You said that problem and I realized you don't really need all that furniture. You know you should get something that fits the room.

Shavonne: 20:38

And I think that's just the design before. Like you go to, like what are the rooms to go? Where they have the sets where you buy the bed the nightstands, all that all in one, and that's what a lot of people used to do. They just would get the full set, take it home.

Charlie Shaw : 20:58

And be done with it, and be done.

Shavonne: 21:00

And a lot of people they don't realize. Okay, some of the spaces. I need to measure the space to make sure this one's set.

Charlie Shaw : 21:05

I'm one of those things.

Shavonne: 21:06

Yes, a lot of people don't really think of that. They're like oh, I like this, I want it, let's take it home. And then that's when they find out oh, this is way too large, or I didn't even need half of these pieces. So that's a lot that I've been saying recently. Is that one thing that I do love to do? Instead of like doing the matchy, matchy furniture, I like to find one big staple piece and then stuff that coordinates so that you're not so matchy matchy and then you won't feel like you have all these big, bulky pieces in your space.

Charlie Shaw : 21:37

I like to stay safe with earth tones.

Shavonne: 21:39

Yes.

Charlie Shaw : 21:40

But I also need some color, some pops. Yes, and that's what I'm working on. So I'm way out there, got a picture, got a pain of a rooster that I can put in my I mean a big wall paint on the rooster. I'll buy it from you, but remember I was talking about that?

Shavonne: 21:56

Yes, I do remember that. Yes, I definitely think that, and that would go right in the kitchen mat. Look by your table.

Charlie Shaw : 22:02

Right, that would look really good, that dining table, yep.

Shavonne: 22:04

That's going to look really good there.

Charlie Shaw : 22:06

But I'm trying, yeah, I'm trying to broaden it out a little bit, but it's hard.

Shavonne: 22:12

It is harder, especially because neutral is easy. Like I, even I love designing with neutrals and I add pops of color through your pillows, your accessories. So pillows, blankets.

Charlie Shaw : 22:27

I was just going to ask you how, how can you get somebody like me that's stubborn in that, in that category, to change it up? And you said that you would. What accessories? What accents?

Shavonne: 22:36

I definitely, I definitely recommend accents because that is it will make it where you're not stuck to that one color. So if you are, oh, you want red this season and the next year you're like I don't even like red anymore. You could change out that pillow. They have pillows where you don't even need to buy the full pillow. You could just get a insert. Change the insert out, get a new thing, keep it moving. You don't have to be going by all new Everything, just replace the few.

Charlie Shaw : 23:04

So you're based on Atlanta? Yes, but you will take clients anywhere. Yes, I have. How do you do that?

Shavonne: 23:12

So it really just depends on a lot of the clients that are out of Atlanta. They are, I do digital, so I do where I can do, digital renders where you can see the space. I'll give you your layouts, the items that you need to purchase all all those things, and then I'll explain to you exactly where they go so you can install it yourself.

Charlie Shaw : 23:40

Right.

Shavonne: 23:40

So that's the easiest way for my out of towners. But then there are. I do if I do travel. So if they want me to come and travel I will get on a flight. It is an extra expense but I will get on that flight here and make that move.

Charlie Shaw : 23:58

Yeah, definitely not. It sounds like you really love what you're doing, I do, I absolutely enjoy it, and I'm happy that you're in a field that you love. So many, so many people have worked a lifetime and and, like I was telling the agent, you guys really stepped out and made made, made yourselves happy in the industry that you want to work in. And that that's courageous.

Shavonne: 24:22

It is. It's very scary to it. It's. It's scary. I, when I decided to, because I've I grew up always working, I always knowing, okay, you work this nine to five, get your your check.

Charlie Shaw : 24:35

You're going to be okay.

Shavonne: 24:36

And you'll be okay. So to to um leave that security it was. It was very stressful for me. Without Adrian's um support, I think I would. I don't. I don't think I would ever even have thought like entrepreneurship was never in my head as as a possibility. It was always get a good job, work that job and be the best at what you do. Yes, and and um to see how successful he was in it and to to uh get the support that he gave me to be like I, I, you, you uh helps me through this. Now I'm going to do the same Like you can now um step back and I will.

Shavonne: 25:16

I'll let you uh not lead but I'm going to support you, yeah, support you, um, in this process it's it's been amazing and um, it's it's really been uh helped, um, because of that, uh, I don't. I don't think that, like, like I said, I don't know if I would have had the courage to uh, because I it took me a long time to get the confidence that I could do it on my own.

Charlie Shaw : 25:41

People come in their lives for different reasons.

Shavonne: 25:43

Yes.

Charlie Shaw : 25:43

You know, as they do not only was your, your husband, he was your biggest supporter in here and what you needed to do for you Exactly, that is true. So what would you tell the listeners that are out there that want to not not just an interior design, but want to get into a feel that they all have always wanted to do? What would be your advice to someone that wants to try something? New or being an entrepreneur.

Shavonne: 26:09

It's it. It's easier said than done, but I say try it, just go for it, it's it's. I know it's like I said it's easier said than done. Um, but I feel so much relief after just trying it. I jumped out on that faith and it's really helped. And I won't say go and quit your job and go full in, like I would say yeah, easy into it.

Shavonne: 26:42

So that my first few years like I said, 2020 once that pandemic hit I did leave my full time job, but I had to go back. I had to go. When I moved to Atlanta, I had to get a job at FedEx. I worked for FedEx for a year until I felt comfortable to be like, ok, I could do this and I'm still. Right now I'm freelancing. I have that graphic design background, so I freelance and do graphic design on the side, so they also gives income.

Charlie Shaw : 27:11

Yeah that that helps me with that piece of mind.

Shavonne: 27:14

Yes, because, knowing me, I stress, I stress, if I don't have that money in my account, so that helps, that helps me through the process. So I would say, just just jump out there, try it, make sure that you, that you have that support, because without that support it's it's. It's going to be hard, it's it everybody's trying to to to do this entrepreneur thing, but without the support it's hard.

Charlie Shaw : 27:42

Would it be fair for me to tell listeners that that it's OK to contact you?

Shavonne: 27:48

Oh, of course definitely mentor. Definitely you up for that I am.

Charlie Shaw : 27:52

You might get a thousand people that much. Hey, come on I got you.

Shavonne: 27:56

I'm an open book. I definitely I get some people that DM me a lot on Instagram. I just asking, given tips. I've had a younger lady. She reached out. She wanted to get into interior design field. I helped her through it and she was very grateful. She got in to her courses and she's been enjoying it so far. So I've been definitely trying to help, because you can't we're not gatekeeping around here. We want we want all of us to grow.

Charlie Shaw : 28:28

I've always said it's enough pile.

Shavonne: 28:29

It is, it is you don't need all this.

Charlie Shaw : 28:33

We can share some of it.

Shavonne: 28:34

Yeah, and that's, and that's another thing. Like once I left Nashville and moved to Atlanta, I feel like the doors open, like it felt like it was a different type, like people are there and they want to help.

Charlie Shaw : 28:45

Right, they want to just hoard it.

Shavonne: 28:47

No, and it seemed harder in Nashville. It was harder for us to get our foot in the door. Try to find ways and just by the grace, I was able to get that job that I was working for.

Charlie Shaw : 28:59

And you mentioned by the grace, grace of what?

Shavonne: 29:01

In the grace of God.

Charlie Shaw : 29:02

Yes, it's OK to say that.

Shavonne: 29:04

Yes, all right. Yes, he definitely. He put me in the right place. This guided me this whole way through. There you go, definitely.

Charlie Shaw : 29:12

So where can we find you?

Shavonne: 29:13

You can find me on all social media platforms on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, at Restyle Living.

Charlie Shaw : 29:20

Restyle Living.

Shavonne: 29:21

Yes, and on my website is restylelivingcom.

Charlie Shaw : 29:24

Spell it out for them.

Shavonne: 29:25

It's R E R E S T L Y, no, I'm starting. Yes, let me try it again, it's R E S T Y L E L I V I N G. There you go.

Charlie Shaw : 29:41

Restyle Living.

Shavonne: 29:42

Restyle Living.

Charlie Shaw : 29:44

Shefaan Weston.

Shavonne: 29:45

Yes.

Charlie Shaw : 29:45

Thank you for coming on the show.

Shavonne: 29:46

Thank you so much for having me.

Charlie Shaw : 29:48

I hope to have you again. Yes, and matter of fact, we might have to set up something so you can do one of the rooms in my. I want you to do that Definitely.

Shavonne: 29:57

And I need to do upcycle that piece that was at Armour there.

Charlie Shaw : 30:02

Yeah, the Armour. Yeah, you really want to mess with that. That's a lot of moving parts in there.

Shavonne: 30:07

You know, I like, I like Dilla with all that stuff.

Charlie Shaw : 30:10

All right, I'll throw it in the back and pick up and bring it up.

Shavonne: 30:12

Yeah, definitely would love to. You got room in the garage. I do, but Adrian might say something different.

Charlie Shaw : 30:17

I have some room. You let me know when you ready for it, okay.

Shavonne: 30:21

He's still trying to slide his car in there and I don't think there's there's no hope for that one.

Charlie Shaw : 30:26

Thank you again.

Shavonne: 30:27

Thank you.