Afternoon Pint
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Afternoon Pint
Julie Shore & Arla Johnson - Crafting Rum, Embracing Faith, and Uniting Communities (Co-founders of JD Shore Rum)
This episode dives into the transformative journey of JD Shore Rum's founders, Julie and Arla. A couple who truly believed in each other, transitioned from careers as a dental hygienist and a psychologist to a master distiller and an ordained minister. Their North Carolina roots are instilled in their work, but they truly love and embrace the Canadian Maritime Provinces like no other! Join us for a very fun conversation about rum, faith, community, acceptance and more rum!
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Cheers.
Speaker 1:Cheers.
Speaker 3:Welcome to the Afternoon Pint. I'm Mike Tolbin, I am Matt Conrad, and who do we have?
Speaker 2:here I'm Arla Johnson, the wife of JD.
Speaker 4:I'm JD Shore. We make the JD Shore rum.
Speaker 3:Awesome and we are here in a very, very cool room. You know you have it set up so that it looks like we're kind of in like a barreling room, which is pretty cool. And yeah, we were saying before that we uh, you know we looked familiar and all this other stuff and everything. But I was telling Mike on the way down here, the very first time that I met you two, you were unloading a U-Haul right outside of here and I was walking down the street, just walking down, and all of a sudden I saw the, the u-haul go up and I saw barrels and everything and immediately, being a you know, a alcohol aficionado, I was like, uh, wait a minute, what's what's going on here?
Speaker 2:and you guys just happened.
Speaker 3:I just you guys were unloading and I was like what's going on?
Speaker 1:so what year was that?
Speaker 3:I don't remember. Honestly, they would know better when they opened.
Speaker 1:I don't remember when you guys opened, would know better when they opened.
Speaker 2:I don't remember when did it open here it would have been almost 10 years ago.
Speaker 1:Okay, there you go.
Speaker 2:Almost 10 years ago. And you know, lesbians do have a reputation for the U-Hauls.
Speaker 4:I don't know the jokes, don't you know? I don't know, we don't know that joke. So, what do?
Speaker 2:lesbians take on a second date? A U-Haul. What do the gay men take on a second date? What second date? Second date, oh, shots fired?
Speaker 4:No, it's not shots fired, it's a joke.
Speaker 3:No, I know, it's pretty true.
Speaker 2:It made me think of it when you talked about the U-Haul.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, that's a thing, though it's a running gag. I find Lesbian and gay men they like to kind of rib each other a little bit. I think it's fun. Yeah, I think that's great. I think when you can laugh with each other and make fun of each other and whatever it's like, it's all good fun right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think I'm drinking one of the best coffees I had so far this year yeah, yeah, yeah after eight yeah, that's a nice cream that's one, one of my favorites.
Speaker 2:I did the chocolate and the after 8. Chocolate, oh, you mixed it, oh yeah, and the after 8.
Speaker 4:Oh, okay, and you guys got some new ones. I got the.
Speaker 3:OG. Oh, you got the OG.
Speaker 4:Okay. I am apparently the you know the boozer, I guess of us all, because I'm just drinking had to have a coffee first sure enough.
Speaker 1:So yeah, your dark rum is really nice, just as a tasting rum, and I only know this. I'm a bit of a whiskey guy and I was out of whiskey but I had jd shore dark rum and you know, I think that was bought. I mean, we don't we're not big rum drinkers in the house, but we get it christmas for eggnog and stuff like that so I just had something to taste it and then that became my tasting rum until it was gone. Uh, so, yeah, so it's really good stuff you know what?
Speaker 3:yeah, like let's, I mean, I can tell you what I kind of thought of your product, because I've had it since. When you guys first opened I was like want to get down there and try it, but, um, I was always when it comes to rum. Traditionally I loved dark rum. You guys do make a very, very good dark rum. That being said, your gold is actually my favorite. It's lights out good and on top of that white rum, which I traditionally don't like, you can drink that straight.
Speaker 3:You can drink it straight. Yeah, it is the best white rum I've ever tasted.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you don't have to chase it with a Coke or Pepsi.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, no. And yeah, I don't, because I don't drink pop, so like I drink it straight. And wow, that white rum honestly was the. I remember when I had the you guys had, like you guys do samplers and I, so I had the four of them all lined up and uh I I was like, all right, I'll start with the white Cause, it's not my favorite Might as well, get it done and over with. And wow I was. It was the thing that shocked me the most about how good it was. So kudos on the quality. And you guys have a roster now.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So Julie, I was reading, you were a master distiller, yeah, so how do? You get that honor.
Speaker 4:How do you get that honor? I think when you come up with the recipes and you play with the. Still, that's your title.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, cool yeah. So is there like a formalized school? You got to go to.
Speaker 4:I did go to alcohol school and get a certificate. Okay, I was going to be proud, yee school alcohol school.
Speaker 2:Okay, and then really we traveled extensively around the globe and Julie did a lot of research, you know, like in Scotland into Japan because they were making soju with potatoes oh
Speaker 4:okay cool and so interesting to see how different countries do things. Yeah, Same concept, just different twists.
Speaker 1:And going back way before that, you guys had totally different lives, right Like I was reading your bio this morning and it was like you were a dental hygienist.
Speaker 4:Dental hygienist Right, pick and flick. And you were a psychologist. Yeah, yes, you did your homework. Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, it's good to have a therapist around. I say 100%.
Speaker 3:You have a therapist and a spiritual person, a spiritual guide and you have alcohol You're covered.
Speaker 4:We are very well covered. We're full of the spirit. We say yeah.
Speaker 1:And then you became fully ordained.
Speaker 2:I did yes.
Speaker 3:So I mean the first ordained lesbian minister in the Baptist church in Canada.
Speaker 2:Isn't that amazing. It's huge that we're even talking about it, I can't believe it's like we're still.
Speaker 1:When did that happen? Like what year was that? Like that you were ordained, was it?
Speaker 4:22? A couple years ago, I think it was 22. Yeah, I think it was about two years ago. I saw that in the article and everything.
Speaker 3:But it's unusual because, like I mean, by no means am I an expert in this but the Baptist, like faith traditionally, is one of the more conservative, is it not?
Speaker 4:It would be typically a church that an LGBT would run from.
Speaker 3:Well, like I remember a joke, like I grew up Catholic, but I remember the joke back in the day was like why don't Baptists believe in premarital sex? Because they believe it'll lead to dancing.
Speaker 4:Oh, that's funny. Oh, I got to tell Rusty that one?
Speaker 2:Is that the one? Why don't they?
Speaker 3:dance. So yeah, I always thought it was one of the more conservative.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So the fact that I mean it makes sense. I guess that you would be the first in that sense.
Speaker 4:But First Baptist really is a church that's. I think at one time they even thought about changing their name from Baptist, but it's a very progressive church. That's awesome. So St Paul's just up here in the parade First Church and Anglican yeah, parade. Yeah, first church and uh, anglican, yeah. So when they established, uh, the priest died and the congregation had found another priest, well, somebody had gone back to england and the king said no, no, we're gonna send somebody, and uh. So 13 parishioners were not very happy about that, so they split off and formed First Baptist Church.
Speaker 3:Oh, no way.
Speaker 4:And I can't remember how many of those 13 were mostly women.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's crazy because Baptist and Anglican are not really all that aligned.
Speaker 4:No, yeah, Baptist came about because there was somebody up from Massachusetts and they were talking about the Baptist that had just started in Rhode Island in Massachusetts and the 13 people said, well, that just sounds like us.
Speaker 2:That's cool. That's how they became Baptists. It's funny. There was a joke in the Anglican churches around here if you want a high Anglican service, just go to First Baptist Church.
Speaker 4:Which is, it is kind of funny.
Speaker 2:But every Sunday is like a paid musical performance like the music there is just unreal. Yeah, senior minister rusty. Yeah, southern boy from the south boy you can give her.
Speaker 4:Yeah cool that's very cool, but it's it's always been a progressive church and when the national convention was blasting the gay people, there was a church in New Brunswick and they were saying something against the homosexuals. Like recently, no I think it was early 90s and the paper here the Chronicle Herald, called First Baptist Church to get a comment, thinking that they would align with and they're like no, that is not our belief.
Speaker 2:yeah and so, um, they split from the national convention we said we're baptist, but not that kind of baptist right and it was because of the, the gay, the gay reason and um the when they split.
Speaker 4:The preacher married two couple, two, two had two different weddings and in both weddings there was, uh, a minister's daughter in each one. So baptist minister's daughter in each one. But um the national convention ripped away his ordination.
Speaker 3:What yeah?
Speaker 4:So which takes a lot away from a minister.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:But we have a lot of forward-thinking people in the congregation and they had already formed another association to go along with the National Convention, called CABF Canadian.
Speaker 2:Progressive thinkers if they could go somewhere and discuss things and not be ridiculed or put on the spot just open discussion. One of the things about being Baptist is is the Baptist freedoms and your um, your freedom to interpret scripture.
Speaker 3:You know right, you don't have like a figurehead that you have to basically accept everything from down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and being free to do what you want to do Right and believe what you want to believe. Yeah, you know so it's.
Speaker 3:I think you do need that, especially in today's world, because I, you know, I think and I hope that you know, more people agree with just autonomy, like, whether it be your body autonomy or your, just your personal life, like the autonomy of your personal life and all that stuff. I hope and I think that most people want that. Yeah, and I think that's a big thing. That's holding christianity back in the sense of why they're seeing numbers go down. Oh yeah, it's because it's like well, I want to. You know, I, I want.
Speaker 3:I think people naturally want something spiritual in their lives, a calling to make something bigger to them, whatever that may be. But, um, it's, uh, it's tough when it's like oh yeah, I want something bigger, but I also really like my neighbors and they have to be a same-sex couple and, you know, the belief is that I can't like them if I'd like this or different religion, all together or different religion all together, exactly one of the things that I so love is we celebrate at Queer Spirit Church, which we founded a couple years ago, and then First Baptist Church.
Speaker 2:We celebrate an open communion. Cool, you need not be a member of this church or any church, to come to this table, and in fact I even say you don't need to be a member of any religious affiliation. You could be from a whole nother faith and still get that bread.
Speaker 2:Pardon me, you still get that bread, okay everybody's welcome to the table, right, you know, and it's not I who invite you, but it's christ, christ, welcomed all. If you look historically, you know, yeah, so anyway, don't get me going on this. I know this, this is great, I love it because it's actually a big part of like.
Speaker 3:I walked away from the Catholic Church probably about 10 years ago, shortly after my wedding, and I was pretty involved in the Catholic Church, like quite involved to the point where I had a priest my wife is not baptized, not raised, not religious and all that stuff but I was very involved and I wanted to get married in my church that I grew up with and all that stuff. But I was very involved and I wanted to get married in my, my church that I grew up with and all that stuff, and a priest who was not from here didn't really have a relationship with him, um, because he was fairly new and was really pushing back and uh basically said to my wife like well, you know, you're gonna have to sit through.
Speaker 2:Whatever it was like leading two months in well, but it was more than that.
Speaker 3:It was like you got to do something like 16 hours of work, like with me, in order to get married in two months. And I was like, well, it's not feasible to do that kind of thing. And it's like, why? For her it's like whatever. And he's like, well, or you could just make this all go away. You can just really get baptized. And I looked at him and I said is that what you want? You want to just go up and just lie and just say like, yeah, I accept all of this, just so we can. Is that what you believe? And he was really insistent on it.
Speaker 3:So I was involved enough that I actually called the archbishop of halifax. You stitched on him, totally went above his head, and the Archbishop of Halifax knew who I was and he was told to stand down. So I got my church and he was told to basically step aside. I actually flew a priest in from Ottawa who was there, who had a really good relationship with. We flew him in. Couldn't have been like was definitely the right guy to have at our wedding. There were people who were there who were not religious and they're like, if I get married, I want this guy to marry me.
Speaker 2:Because they're dancing on the dance floor and all this other stuff. Right?
Speaker 3:Just great guy, it was real, it was real, it was real. But my wife was completely turned away from that right.
Speaker 4:A lot of people, a lot of people Right, like your wife, yeah.
Speaker 3:And my wife is someone who's like, yeah, she's like I'm agnostic, she's like I'd love for there to be a heaven.
Speaker 3:I just don't know that there is. But she wants to accept people. The biggest thing about her with most churches are how they treat people and how they you know anyone in the LGBTQ plus community how they see that she's like. That's a hard no for her in terms of like. Yeah, so it's. At one point I was sitting there in mass and I looked around and I just had this moment of like. I'm not in communion with these people. Yeah, I don't think a lot of the same way that they do, and I stopped going to communion and then I stopped going to church when was that?
Speaker 1:what year? Like about 10 years, 10 years ago.
Speaker 3:Probably about 10 years ago now, actually, because I got married 10 years ago in.
Speaker 1:July you were about 30 years old, round about 29. 29? Yeah, 29 years old.
Speaker 2:But you know, you talk about heaven. Heaven is here.
Speaker 3:Oh, I agree with you, there Heaven is here and hell is here.
Speaker 2:We can create our own heaven and we can create our. And heaven is when we talk about really what Jesus spoke about. And two we're in Advent, which is all about justice.
Speaker 4:Oh no, we're in.
Speaker 2:January.
Speaker 1:We're in January. We're in January.
Speaker 4:Arla oh.
Speaker 1:We are in the future.
Speaker 4:We are in the future. Sorry, I didn't tell her that, that's okay.
Speaker 1:This is in.
Speaker 4:January she gets excited about Advent.
Speaker 3:But, as we're recording, we are in Advent, and that's fine, yeah, but yes, so we do.
Speaker 2:We create hell here and we can create harmony, which is heaven. And really, when you talk about sin, sin for me is just really separation from God. When we're separate from the divine, when we're separated from the sacred, when we're separated from the holy, that's when things get hellish.
Speaker 3:Well, it's funny If we want to use that of it's turning into a little bit of a you know, a spiritual discussion, but that's okay.
Speaker 4:But we do have a lot of Catholics that come to First Baptist.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and Queer Spirit Church too.
Speaker 1:So let's go back to Queer Spirit Church for a minute. So do you have a lot of folks that are just trying to discover themselves and might go to Queer Spirit Church just to kind of you know they're learning about faith and their own sexuality or whatever Like how does that work? That's a great question.
Speaker 2:I think a lot of people are coming because they want to go to church, that know they're going to be accepted, that they're going to be deemed worthy and of dignity however they present, whomever they love, and too, we were getting people that maybe were catholic that they come in, and it brings tears to my eyes when they're coming and saying listen, I haven't been in church in 20 years right it's first I've sat in a pew. It's first time I've had communion with my children.
Speaker 2:A trans woman, you know it's like oh, my god, you're opening up a space that they can come and experience the god, the god of love yeah you know the God of nonjudgmental.
Speaker 1:I'm really curious about you Like going back a bit you were a psychologist previously to this right and to go from that to be a minister. Yeah, I got a question about that, that's not that different?
Speaker 3:No, no, no, it's not a big leap, but it is right.
Speaker 1:I mean the spiritual and I think from a psychology standpoint it's sometimes more, a lot more practical. Right, you know, you identify what's wrong or what's to be resolved and within a person. Right. I don't even know what my question is here, but I mean how you know, how do you feel like your new profession has helped with this helping people? Do you feel you can help people more now with with through faith than as you could as a psychologist?
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, and you know, in fact, people more now through faith than as you could as a psychologist. Well, yeah, and you know, in fact, when I was in psychology I had a strong faith and I found, if I was with folks and they had a strong faith, may we pray before the session. Oh, okay, because I think again, if you bring God into the situation, you bring the Holy Spirit into it, it helps, it's counseling, it really does, and it too, it helps that again create that safe space. You know, I know one of the reasons julia and I were together now almost 30 years and after 20 years we got married and I thought you know what relationships are hard enough, but we really need to get married in the church, get god involved even more so you guys got married like almost around the same time that you opened this up.
Speaker 3:Then, yeah, like right around the same time. Yeah, cool, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sure, yeah, wow, after 20 years after 20 years.
Speaker 4:Well, the 20 year came around and we have a heart. We both have ADHD. Yeah, so do we. We have a hard time remembering how long we've been married and there's friends of ours they're both Virgos and they were together. We're together six months longer than them. So often we'll call them and ask how long have we been together? They're like, oh my gosh, you too.
Speaker 2:But that doesn't matter.
Speaker 4:When we got to, the 20, we thought you know it's 20. We should get the piece of paper or have a big party, sure.
Speaker 1:And so we should get the piece of paper, or or have a big party, sure and uh so of course we had more. I got to ask that oh no, we both did, we always wanted to, but you know what Life goes on.
Speaker 2:And then when you're together so long, cause when we first got together we were in the States and it was illegal. So we couldn't get married yeah.
Speaker 3:And then Even 30 years ago here, it wasn't illegal. Yes, exactly, it's only 21 years ago that it became legal here. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy to think like even Obama started.
Speaker 1:You know not being pro-gay marriage, right.
Speaker 2:You know when all these guys started.
Speaker 1:He was one of the most progressive leaders America's ever had. And Biden, yeah, right. And Biden, yes, yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, when you think about it, this is what I always who like to pick sides of like right and left and stuff like that. But political stuff is a spectrum and most times our conservatives most times line up more with Democrats in the U S. The Republicans in the U S are even further right. Yeah, kind of thing, right, so it's. It's a people like like Obama who not a shot against them. I think he was a fine guy, seems like a really nice guy and seems like he was a really good president. But they didn't that, you know. They still allowed guns to. You know, get out of hand.
Speaker 2:They still didn't have like they didn't.
Speaker 3:They don't have universal health care. They uh they didn't legalize same-sex marriages, like there's a lot of things that our you know canadian right-wing people weren't doing, and they were the left-wing party of that country, right. So yeah. So yeah, it's yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:It is what it is. So you guys were in the US for a little while then.
Speaker 4:We're from, we were born there, oh I thought you guys were from PI. Well, we landed on PI first.
Speaker 1:Do the cottage, the inn, the inn?
Speaker 4:12 room inn.
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, us, when us was good, we just came because we fell in love with the maritimes, we fell in love with canadians okay and we were like, hey, this is where we want to live, yeah, this is what we want to do, so we quit so where were you at in the us?
Speaker 3:sorry, florida, florida okay, yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, that's tough one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it was. But it was good. Then all the canadians were coming to florida for the winter. That's true too yeah.
Speaker 1:Do you think it's really bad now, though? Do you think sometimes it's like over, like I don't know? Sometimes I feel like you know you're you're hearing from the most sensational voices on both sides sometimes, and then there's really great people in america there's absolutely has to.
Speaker 4:I I talk so divided. I talked to my friends I went to high school and and they they said there's so much hate. It's just unreal. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I was there last last in colorado. It was pretty sad. Like you know, you're going to a family restaurant and there's, like you know, pro-republican stuff on the chalkboard or pro-democrat stuff hating on republicans, right?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, I will unite. This is always going to be division.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, I, I mean I I fear that for canada, I mean, the antithesis of this show is that's the kind of stuff I don't ever want to see happen.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this is about bringing people together. So we made this show because there was enough people arguing.
Speaker 1:It's like let's try to bring people together, right, you know. However, we can.
Speaker 2:That's what Christ preached over 2,000 years ago.
Speaker 3:There you go. I totally agree with you, you know what On this podcast, Matt?
Speaker 1:I was a carpenter for half a year here. I love it I love it.
Speaker 3:We just gotta get you to make it some money.
Speaker 1:Christ did too. There you go, I'm just gonna get you to learn how to make some booze that's all turn water into wine.
Speaker 3:That's all I wish I could, yeah but I said on this, on this podcast actually it was funny I I said that, uh, jesus was a liberal and I say that often.
Speaker 2:I I say Jesus was a liberal, not capital.
Speaker 3:L liberal.
Speaker 2:Little.
Speaker 3:L liberal right and people are always going what?
Speaker 2:do you mean by that?
Speaker 3:Capital. L means liberal party, that's the title. But a liberal, like just a person who is liberal, is small l right. And when I say Jesus was a liberal, I mean that when you go back and you read about what the things he did. He was fighting against the pharisees, he was he was calling out people for selling religion.
Speaker 4:I used to say jesus is a hippie when I was younger.
Speaker 2:Yeah, jesus was all about justice, love. Yeah, yeah, and that's what we all are about what we.
Speaker 3:I think it's good if we all strive to be that, you know. Um, oh, jul, julie's bossing me. She's telling me to get closer to the microphone. It's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 2:Especially if I get talking to God and Jesus, I'll get really loud.
Speaker 4:And it's so funny because Adam's sitting over there. He helps us with our social media, yes, and he has to edit me out a lot of times, but he's like, don't talk about God so much.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean I get it. I mean there's some people who obviously aren't, you know, they're really hard. The other way, you know and are, you know, militant atheists and things like that. And you know, sometimes you don't want that to affect your business because you want people to come in and no matter what they believe, right, yeah, are people that atheist, that they won't buy good rum, though. Who knows, I don't know. That's a good question, that's a great question, but I don't think so how atheist do you have to be?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I think everybody, and I think that's one of the beauties. I think that we're created, and we're created with these wonderful minds and wanting to just explore and to wonder and let people figure it out themselves, whatever way they may go.
Speaker 1:I love that. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what's up yet. I'm one of those. But I don't love calling myself an atheist. I don't think I ever will, because I just don't.
Speaker 2:I feel like atheists just is devoid of hope, and hope is something that's kind of beautiful, right, and you look at creation, right, oh my gosh, it's just magnificent, and now too, with sciences and religion kind of walking together hand in hand, which is so cool. We look at the cosmos and what's going on there.
Speaker 3:you know, in quantum physics, I think religion and science have always, for the most part, walked hand in hand. You know, just some people don't update their science.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Because realistically Some people don't update their religion either.
Speaker 2:Some people don't update their religion.
Speaker 3:100 good point, because I mean, like the big bang was like theorized by a catholic priest, right, like a lot of the uh, science was done by religious leaders of the past because they were the ones who could read latin. They're the ones who could read in general, right, so they were the smartest people. They were professors, they were whatever. So science was done by a lot of religious leaders, not just Christianity, but, like you know, obviously, if you get into Asia and the beliefs and systems that all exist around the world, a lot of the smartest people were the people who were religious leaders and look at the Magi.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, you know, they were into astronomy. Yeah, exactly they felt this spiritual calling to go and I mean yeah. They said yes.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no exactly.
Speaker 2:I love when people say yes.
Speaker 3:There's that yes challenge. Eh, what's that? Where you just say yes to things? Oh, that was a movie with Jim Carrey, wasn't it? Yeah, exactly. You could have said no, yeah, just for like it was whatever it was for 24 hours, 24 hours. Yeah, you have to say yes to whatever is proposed to you, and it's amazing, saying yes you hear that, Julie.
Speaker 1:I actually on my phone today, saved the best ways to say no, like how to be polite. When saying no it's like thank you so much for the invitation.
Speaker 2:I just can't make it today.
Speaker 1:Or I really appreciate you, but I can't be there.
Speaker 4:I love. No, I always ask but, I always let people know that no is a perfectly fine answer and it doesn't need an explanation.
Speaker 2:Just say no.
Speaker 1:You don't have to tell people. I'm a big provider of that?
Speaker 2:No, is a fine answer no is a great answer especially being in sales.
Speaker 3:No is a very good answer, because you know what that means.
Speaker 1:I get to my answer soon and I can move on to the next person, so no is perfectly good. Sometimes, yes would probably do good for me, though, too, I could get a little more yes in my life. You should, yeah, you need definitely to say yes more.
Speaker 3:So back to, from one spirit to the other. Um, we, uh, we can uh, how, what made you want to uh get into making alcohol of all sorts?
Speaker 4:um well, my family were distillers and, uh, they were distilling in the old country as well, in switzerland and then, when they came to the new world, they landed in north carolina and they were distillers and and were a big. So what were they doing in the old in North Carolina? And they were distillers and were a big. So what were?
Speaker 1:they doing in the old world? Was it vodka?
Speaker 4:Well, they were in Switzerland, but just underneath the Black. Forest.
Speaker 2:So schnapps.
Speaker 4:Kiers Cherry liqueurs.
Speaker 1:Okay, cool, so that's what they were making. They specialized in cherry liqueur Cool.
Speaker 2:And what's that?
Speaker 1:derivative of how do you make that? Just cherries, cherries.
Speaker 4:Yeah, oh wow, simple, you just have to have a sugar source and uh yeah anything with sugar, zero percent, kool-aid, real cherries, yeah, okay, cool yeah not a wine punch okay, kool-aid might like supercharge, something cool so then you did north car, did North Carolina.
Speaker 1:What was being made there as a contrast Whiskies.
Speaker 4:So they did a lot of bourbon style whiskies, rye whiskies and then fruit brandies, so peaches and whatever was around, but they had a big distribution. They actually had a mailing list. Yeah, but they had a big distribution, they actually had a mailing list and they opened up another distillery with another, because we had a lot of cousins that had distilleries too about two hours away. That was handy to a train track, so that they get their distribution out. And then Prohibition.
Speaker 1:Okay, so Prohibition was a part of that. I was going to ask you that, yeah, it kind of stopped, that killed it. I tell you, prohibition was a part of that. I was going to ask you that that's cool.
Speaker 2:It kind of stopped. That killed it. I tell you, politics really interferes with us. Did they ship the stuff in those jugs?
Speaker 4:Yeah, so those are the jugs that they would ship.
Speaker 1:Oh, those are the actual jugs yeah. Oh cool.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, look at that. Sure oh North. That's awesome that you still have those, yeah.
Speaker 4:So Icy Shore is the last before us. And then it was called two generations before it was AE Shore and then it was back in Switzerland. So that's kind of why we went with JD Shore.
Speaker 1:So did you guys go? Okay, so the prohibition hit. Yeah, business was dead.
Speaker 4:Yeah, well, it.
Speaker 1:Rom Runners.
Speaker 4:Like Canada, it kind of passed state to state, so it started in the Bible Belt, of course.
Speaker 2:North.
Speaker 4:Carolina passed. So they were handy to the Virginia border, so they just moved it over to Virginia. But then the next year or two it passed in Virginia, so they moved it to Jacksonville, Florida.
Speaker 1:And then it passed nationally.
Speaker 4:So they came back and, unfortunately, unfortunately, they didn't run it. Had they run it, my history would have been so different.
Speaker 3:Yes, Well, I mean there's also. It's cool because here in Nova Scotia we have a long history of rum runners especially coming from the United States and storing it up in the what's it called there? The Smuggler's Cove? Yeah, If you guys have been down that way and checked it out, so it's pretty cool going there and seeing where the history was and where they're hiding.
Speaker 4:There's so many fabulous books written by locals about that time and it's yeah, I just love that history here.
Speaker 1:So when did you resurrect your business, like, when did you decide to bring back JD Shore?
Speaker 4:So we moved up in 97 and Arla was, she always wanted to have an inn, a B&B. So we opened a 12 room inn and PI the season's really short. So we noticed everybody else had more than one job on the go, right. So she looked at me and she's like, well, you really want to do. And I'm like, oh, harla, I want to open a distillery, wow. And she says, what else do you want? To do yeah so it took me about eight years to talk her into it, did not take eight it was at least eight for you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh my gosh. I personally like uh, you know I I love beers, one of my favorite things to drink. But back when I was not legally making my own booze, I was, you know, I was working for a company that sold stills and things like that and everything. So I experimented a little bit, never sold it Like I was never into that, but I was experimenting, making some things and I made some pretty cool things. Yeah, and it's fun. It's a lot of fun because the, at least from my experience, is like beer, wine and then distilled spirits. The kind of room for error is less with these.
Speaker 3:Yes, because you're distilling and like the chances of something being spoiled or, you know, infected or anything like that far and you can just have some. Like I had some fun. I used to make small batches of things. I try a little bit of it and go, yeah, that was great, and then I'd probably give it away. Right, very cool it was, it's fun, like it is a lot of fun, yeah, making some things.
Speaker 4:And then when someone says like oh, that was really good right, and then if you ever do mess up, you can just distill it back to neutral. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's the thing, right, so you can always use your mistakes. That's, yeah, a hundred percent Right. So it's, it's pretty cool and you guys got a large roster now, cause I remember when you guys were just four rums and you had smaller bottles of like some whiskeys and stuff like that too.
Speaker 1:That whiskey you made last year was good, oh yeah. Or 2023, was it with Garrison? Oh yeah, oh yes.
Speaker 2:The Tall Ship Whiskey yeah, we just released some stuff now that's 14 years old.
Speaker 3:That was cool when we were in PEI we were making whiskey, laying it down.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow so we're just now cracking nose casks. I got to go back to. We talked about how we started.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:You know, because still in a new building and this is a pei and I don't think also explain, because I don't think people realize to legally count as whiskey is a huge investment because of the time that we need to at least three years, that's right.
Speaker 2:At least three years, yeah but so when we were getting you know together to do this and we were figuring out how much was the cost, I was like, oh my gosh, julie, I believe in you, but my god, what happens if we invest all of this? It doesn't't work. What if it doesn't work? And I'll never forget what she says.
Speaker 4:She's listen no big deal we're going to make mouthwash, we'll make mouthwash. Listerine has done very well.
Speaker 2:She's from the industry.
Speaker 4:I said okay, listerine was 12% alcohol. Are you going to make mouthwash?
Speaker 3:JD Shore mouthwash.
Speaker 4:Because that, what an idea. Just for fun, actually, that, yeah, the alcohol rinse in your mouth was never really a good thing, so I don't even think there's a mouth rinse.
Speaker 1:Now, that has alcohol. Okay, yeah, but back in the day.
Speaker 4:They all had alcohol yeah hey, we got to get rid of their alcohol content. I don't think there's. I may be wrong, but I don't think there's a mouth rinse with alcohol.
Speaker 3:Doesn't have any yeah, like subpar listerine is you. They're not sponsors, but they should be. There's a couple of things I'm really hard to paint on brands and. Listerine is like the superior of all brands.
Speaker 1:I don't know what you got against Crest Listerine. Give us some money for a podcast.
Speaker 4:If not, we're going to scope. I don't know.
Speaker 3:Does the dental hygienist agree with me on that? Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4:Just say yes Until JD Shore makes it around, but just giving her a backup plan. She was like, okay, we have a backup plan. So if we fail at distilling alcohol, we can make mouthwash.
Speaker 2:And fire starter and fire starter, you know, with the campgrounds.
Speaker 1:Absolutely Amazing.
Speaker 4:She needed a backup plan. Yeah, I get that, I get that.
Speaker 3:So you guys are still making some whiskeys, but there are a lot of specialty ones, right?
Speaker 4:Yeah, so we haven't focused on whiskeys in a while.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:But we get over to the new place? We will. But yeah, we've mainly been focusing on the rums and the creams here.
Speaker 1:So are you guys leaving the space downtown here?
Speaker 3:Yes, yeah I thought you were just expanding.
Speaker 1:No, oh, okay, so we'll move everything over there. When do you plan to do all that?
Speaker 4:Well, it was supposed to be last July.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 4:There you go. Everything's taking a while. Where's the?
Speaker 1:new space at.
Speaker 4:It's on Higney Avenue so it's behind Ikea and Kent.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, back in there. Yeah, great location.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, I know the spot. Yeah, I know the area.
Speaker 3:Big growing spot too, and right now, because you guys have a like there's like a nightclub in half of this place, like it's not us, we sublet it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh so you rent that space out to them, is that it? Oh, okay.
Speaker 4:So before COVID we did everything, but um, after COVID it was. It was just kind of like what do we really want to be doing Right? So, um, and and this is what I really love doing. So I enjoyed the bar and having fun with folks, but it was just too much.
Speaker 3:It was too much.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're probably working all the time at that point and running around, you know, getting kegs of beer, getting limes and lemons we really should be focusing on building the brand setting up distribution, opening up new markets.
Speaker 1:And what provinces are you guys in right now? Is it just in Canada?
Speaker 2:We're in, of course here. Pi New Brunswick so excited. Just opened up Newfoundland.
Speaker 1:Oh sweet.
Speaker 2:And Manitoba, right Alberta, and I think we're getting close to Saskatchewan.
Speaker 3:And you're on WestJet. Oh yeah, free mailings, international and domestic yeah, that's so cool, that's so awesome. So Shore Shots was a brilliant idea.
Speaker 1:Is it your goal to get your stuff down in North Carolina, or has that already happened?
Speaker 2:Legally or illegally.
Speaker 1:Legally, we'll say yeah is it your goal to get it down there?
Speaker 4:My goal is different than her goal, but my goal is truly to like saturate this region so the maritimes and to really like kind of take over the maritimes and yeah the maritimes drink jd short that's one of the most common names already in the house from yeah, it. Scotians right, everybody is familiar with Jamie Short, so taking that into New Brunswick and taking that, you know, over into PI and Newfoundland, like that's. That's really my goal. She has a farther reach, but she has to find the money. So she has a farther reach.
Speaker 1:I'm just excited seeing going wherever it's going.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's cool, and whoever wants it, you know, because I seeing going wherever it's going yeah, it's cool, and whoever wants it, you know because I love it, because it's so good and wherever I go, I say it will stand up to anything. Anything on the bar, you pull anything you want from that bar. You go side by side with whatever we're making and I guarantee you we will taste better and we will be the same price point.
Speaker 1:I got an idea for you. Oh, I love it because you've been, you know, historically smuggling alcohol. You start smuggling faith in the bottles, inscriptions on the labels. On the inside it's already in there?
Speaker 4:is it already?
Speaker 2:it's already in there, like a little fortune cookie or something on there it's already you know I don't know if people know this, but our chocolate death, death by Chocolate, two meanings.
Speaker 3:Did you read the side of the label?
Speaker 2:No, so part of the proceeds, because I do a lot of work on the road, especially in rural areas, and I love going to Cape Breton and down in the south area, where there's not a lot going on and I enjoy working. I don't mean to enjoy, but I like being present with people, death and dying.
Speaker 3:It's one of those things that takes a very special person to be able to do that. Yeah, and I feel really drawn to that. And.
Speaker 2:I hear the stories and palliative care in some of these rural areas is just horrendous. You've got, let's say, a single mom who's trying to care for a father or mother that's two hours away in palliative care. She's trying to take care of the kids. Drive there so with the death by chocolate part of the proceeds we're going to give to rural area palliative care workers. That's awesome, yeah, and what's really cool it's it's our money.
Speaker 1:We don't have to get government you know ask is it okay to give here? Is it okay to give?
Speaker 2:there. So once we get a pretty good chunk, then we'll just kind of look in the community and see where the greatest need is and maybe have people start giving us great needs list and say okay, this is what we've got. Where can we, where can we spend it?
Speaker 3:I think, I think more and more. You're seeing more and more people want to do business and spend their money on on companies that are one local, but also to give back.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, right.
Speaker 3:It goes a long way. I mean, I am someone who is, you know, a humanitarian, but also to give back. Oh yeah, right, yeah, it goes a long way. I mean, I am someone who is, you know, a humanitarian, but also a capitalist.
Speaker 2:I think you can do both yeah.
Speaker 3:Right, you can still make a billion dollars as long as you give you know a bunch back, I hope to. Kind of thing, right Like I know. If I was someone who was making a million dollars a year, I probably would give a lot of it back.
Speaker 1:I'll hold you to that.
Speaker 4:Go ahead, go right ahead, go right ahead. Honestly, we're all part of this community so we should help, and I think that's another reason to support local whether it be the JD Shores, but.
Speaker 1:I know, a lot of the breweries, the wineries. We're the ones that are giving to the kids hockey. We're the ones that are given to the kids hockey. Oh my gosh, we preach that a lot in our show. Bailey says bailey's ever write a check to your kids hockey league no, you know these local breweries around have yeah many of them and they I mean we we've talked about um gosh schoolhouse there and yeah, schoolhouse, oh yeah, they ignited windsor, the town of windsor, yeah, just ignited them like they.
Speaker 3:They, you know windsor was an okay place. It's's funny. I don't remember what it was. 10, 12 years ago my wife was like I don't like Windsor and now she's like can we go to Windsor? It's a fresh spot of house there of mine and yeah, they love it there.
Speaker 2:These are our communities, but these places are helping build them.
Speaker 1:It's crazy and it's sad to see them shut down too, and that's why we really need to support them, like Churro Brewing another LGBTQ brewing spot there in Churro just shut down. That was really sad to see. They were making great beers. They were making very good beer which, again, it's so competitive.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it is, it is, yeah, and there's enough room for everyone. It's just people gotta stop drinking. Bud light, right like it's, when it comes down to, is like these mass-produced beers that are flavorless. Got really nothing going on. And again, bud light, cores light.
Speaker 4:Yeah, isn't paying for your kids that's right hockey gear right, yeah, yeah so there's something going on with the breweries in north america. A lot of breweries have closed down.
Speaker 1:Yeah but maybe that's because so many of them came up, because so many people just saw the opportunity to just do something for themselves and took a shot at it, and that's unfortunately, the downfall.
Speaker 3:When so many people decide to do this, there's only so much market share right and government handed out a lot of loans that encouraged people to get into it without considering the space.
Speaker 1:It's. Simultaneously, the government doesn't do a great job in promoting local businesses in this into like did you give any of those government loans she's talking about?
Speaker 3:yeah, that's the thing. It's starting to brewery, like a lot of them were, like some of the guys were saying like yeah, like the serpent, who yeah? Like he talked about how, like he took it up advantage of getting it because he was like and he was the only one in around spryfield, so yeah, it should have worked, for every time I went by he was busy that's the thing.
Speaker 3:And then, yeah, but it's. You know, some places are saturated and some aren't and some it's. It just comes down to support and everything, so, speaking, of government, though, because we're right in the middle of this. Um, do you guys feel you guys should have been included on this? Uh tax?
Speaker 4:holiday, don't get me.
Speaker 1:Oh, you guys weren't because your alcohol content's too high.
Speaker 4:What?
Speaker 1:the hell. That was a weird thing, right, what the hell.
Speaker 4:First of all, people drink beer and cider in the summer. Yeah sure, September comes, they're on the liquor, yeah Time to get warm. So then our business is going, I know right, and then our sales, our market sales, start going up. And then, all of a sudden, the beer guys are going to get a break in my season, come on.
Speaker 1:Right, what in the world? I didn't think about that. But I absolutely buy more heavier liquors and then Heart and Stroke says stop drinking for January.
Speaker 4:I'm like, can we do that in June? We're not doing that in January, can we do that in June? Why are we doing that in January? Let's do that in June but listen, I think the break ends.
Speaker 2:What mid-February?
Speaker 3:Yes, so then maybe they'll pick up for the— the day after Valentine's Day.
Speaker 2:Oh, maybe we'll pick up then the alcohol. There, you go, maybe the creams.
Speaker 1:At least the cream liqueurs're, you know, like the pre-mixed drinks in the stores have you guys gone into that?
Speaker 4:not yet. Yeah, we're just once we get over to the new facility and we get more yeah, saw the wheels turn in there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah I say why mix? Look how good it is straight I don't need it.
Speaker 3:Like I said, I'm a purist. I like to taste like I'm a. Don't get me wrong. I like some of the mixed drinks. There's some really really great ones out there and, uh, you know, my wife really likes them too. But I like some of the more simplest, like this, more simplistic ones. Yeah, um, yeah, there's some out there that's like pink lemonade and it tastes great, but I don't really enjoy that. I drink the can in 30 seconds and then go, wow, that tasted like lemonade and you know you drink a six pack of them in an hour and you're like now I'm drunk and feel like I'm 10 yeah but if you're gonna like, truly appreciate something and of quality, I honestly just feel like just put some ice and sip on it and away you go.
Speaker 3:Right, you notice it that way. But a simple, you know rum with some ginger and carbonated water.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I love that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, almost like a dark and stormy. Oh, I love those.
Speaker 3:That black rum with a little ginger beer oh, yeah, Like actually, well, this is yeah, we were actually, we had our holiday party and that's that's all I was drinking was uh dark rum and ginger beer yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3:It's a great. It's a great little combo. But yeah and it's great for this time of year. You're right like, this is the time of year where you know people are drinking caesars and they're drinking honestly. I like, I kind of feel like caesars. If you're putting vodka in your caesars, you're oh you're behind, missing a flavor.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you're, you're way behind, way behind, yeah so, yeah, it's, uh, you're right, this is the time of year where people start drinking a little bit more of that and, to be completely fair, this is the most cost-effective way to get some drinks, because Because, if you, you know, truly measure it out, one ounce, that's a 27-pack. Exactly For what? 30 bucks or?
Speaker 4:something like that. I know, and I don't find those RTDs that flavorful. What's so hard about mixing your own drink? It tastes better. Yeah, I'm good with it. I'm good with that. But I'm about convenience too.
Speaker 3:But even when you think of beers, like you know, but the money, the money aspect. It's way cheaper, way cheaper. Yeah, yeah, absolutely it is. Yeah, I mean, thanks for pointing that out. So, yeah, what's a bottle of rum self where I don't know? The price is off by heart.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like 30 bucks 30 bucks.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's what I figured, I think 27-ounce bottle. So realistically you're looking at like $1.10 a drink, right, right, and we've been sitting here screaming about you know a buck of beers since Rob Ford brought it up. But you can have a buck a drink if you're buying JD Shore. You know it's local quality.
Speaker 4:Or your Shore Shots. The Shore Shots, you get 10 in a box.
Speaker 1:Or you can have a whole bottle and lose your relationship one night.
Speaker 4:Don and lose your relationship in one night, don't blame the rum. The Shore Shots, 10 in a box. Yeah, they're two bucks a shot.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:There you go.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's easy to carry around and you know the way you do. Just keep them in the trunk of your car.
Speaker 2:You're always ready to go Drunk love compartment.
Speaker 3:Purse pocket Trying to be a little bit like you know. No drinking while driving.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not.
Speaker 3:We don't. No, no exactly, but I mean realistically. Yeah, those are things that are easy enough that you could leave in there and you know what? And if it gets a little frozen in the wintertime, what's wrong with that? It becomes a freezy, an adult freezy, oh my. So you're making the move. What's next? So you're making the move. What's next? Obviously, you see plans and everything, but the growth is great, westjet, great, where else? What's next on the horizon?
Speaker 4:Every flight, isn't that?
Speaker 3:cool yeah.
Speaker 4:That is huge.
Speaker 3:I was actually at the chamber when WestJet was there and everything.
Speaker 4:The breakfast, yeah, yeah I was at that breakfast, yeah, so they took him the ceo all around town and at four o'clock he came to the distillery for a tour and arlie gave the tour, and after the tour he said this was the best part of my day. He loved the tour. Of course, she loves picking on people and she had fun with them too, but they were a great group. How does that?
Speaker 3:happen like how does a local, halifax I'll call you relatively small compared to you, know some monsters, right yeah?
Speaker 4:It could be more maritime. No, exactly, the name even sounds maritime.
Speaker 3:JD Short sounds like a pirate name.
Speaker 4:It was meant to be yeah, but yeah, it was very organic. There was when we were running the bar next door, you know we'd see flight crews, yeah okay. And you know, of course, everybody that came in was a friend, so they're like this should be on the plane. I'm like yes it should, Shouldn't it? Yes, it should, but then the next time they no. Really, this should be on the plane.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:So I'm like, okay, let's see if we can make that happen.
Speaker 3:It is perfect because I mean, when you think about it like it's, you know they don't have to open a bottle, worry about it being open and waste and all that and the weight, it's half the weight, half the weight. Just boom, boom, boom. Just go and hand them out. I think it should be included in your ticket.
Speaker 4:They just hand them in as you walk on the plane. Yes, I love it.
Speaker 3:Can we see your ID? Make it real common.
Speaker 4:Welcome aboard. The kids get their little pack and Mama gets her pack.
Speaker 3:There you go yeah right.
Speaker 2:It's only a dollar off. Right the original. You paid what, how much for your ticket? Just a dollar, yeah exactly.
Speaker 3:Just add it in there, no one will notice that.
Speaker 4:It's not like engine fuel Exactly.
Speaker 3:So yeah, I don't know if we have a little game, we always play this game on our show, kind of like a game.
Speaker 1:It's just you can answer take a sip these questions. I think you should be able to answer.
Speaker 4:I'm going to get another drink.
Speaker 3:They're really easy.
Speaker 1:Okay and yeah, so we'll go back and forth. We have a couple questions carved out for each one of you.
Speaker 4:Most of them, anybody can answer.
Speaker 2:Uh-oh, yeah, but they're very easy. It sounds like Adam's social media when we first started doing stuff. You already said a game, the Newlywed Game.
Speaker 3:I'll never forget that one. Oh yeah, that can get people in trouble.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, it did.
Speaker 3:Okay, I'm good, you should put that more in the middle so I can see it too.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I can do that. I guess so Do you know the questions.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but we're going to take turns.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:Do you have your reading glasses on? I don't need them, unlike you. He was giving me a hard time earlier. He's like well, you need glasses.
Speaker 2:He couldn't read his laptop. You guys are cute.
Speaker 3:How long have you been working together and we actually. So we spend a lot of time together. We sit on a board together, we do this and we're at day jobs together. So we do three things. So we see each other just as much as we see our spouses, if not more sometimes alright, so question number one for Aria Arla Jesus that's alright, oh, no, no, no, you can pray during the podcast.
Speaker 2:That's okay, I'm editing that out?
Speaker 1:no, no, no, no, no, no okay, anyway, we're gonna, we're gonna redo that. That part's gone it never happened. No it all slips. Leave it on, leave it on.
Speaker 2:You know listen the guys will be coming in. They'll say they're installing a dishwasher in the house. The next thing you hear is JC and I said that's okay as long as you're praying. Right oh okay, you sound like my grandma, that's okay.
Speaker 4:All right, okay, this question's for you.
Speaker 1:I can't see it, Matt. My eyes aren't that good, yeah exactly. All right. Before you were ordained minister, you were a psychologist. How can the integration of spiritual guidance and psychological principles enhance the holistic well-being of individuals, and what ethical considerations arise when blending these two approaches? Oh, my goodness gracious, I need a drink on that one, but you know, we alluded to this earlier. Yes, we did.
Speaker 2:Because when you talk about spirituality, for me it's the holistic, it's that shalom you know just that whole inner peace. And then it blends ideally with psychology, because you're trying to get, you're focusing on being mentally stable, emotionally stable, working through things, and it just goes so nice with the spiritual realm, with just a holistic wanting to be whole, wanting to be complete, you know. Does that answer that question?
Speaker 3:I like that, I like it. Okay, good, we'll give you a pass.
Speaker 4:There you go. Okay, I didn't understand the question this.
Speaker 3:well, this one's for you, so hopefully you'll understand. So, Julie before coming to Master Distillery, you were a dental hygienist, so what is your estimated percentage of people that lie about flossing their teeth? A?
Speaker 4:hundred. Everybody lies, lie, lie, lie.
Speaker 2:They never, they never, no, they do. They do right before they're sitting right before yeah, come into the office I always tell them, I don't floss that's true, I don't like, I just I was like I've been trying to, but I keep forgetting.
Speaker 1:And then I look at the floss and I don't do it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah you know, those, those ones that are on the stick yeah those are great, I have them in the truck and you just while you're distraught. And now, with all this traffic, you just do it while you're driving my partner.
Speaker 1:She does that if she's listening.
Speaker 4:It drives me crazy because she leaves those little sticks all over the freaking vehicle I know they're all over mine too on the floor at her teeth all the time.
Speaker 3:Right, oh my gosh, it's the perfect time when I leave my dentist she, like, she always gives me that a pack and says here you floss more, and here this, this is whatever right. So then she says use this here, use it while you're driving, it's a great idea. And I put it in my cup holder. And you know what I do? I use them. I actually use them, yeah, and when the pack's gone I stop flossing.
Speaker 4:Oh no, oh no.
Speaker 1:You've got to buy the big packs.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and what is the most memorable confessions that you remember while taking care of a patient?
Speaker 1:They must have said some wild stuff while being there, Like how are you doing?
Speaker 4:Do you remember anything like that Any weird stuff, they said. I had great patience because, you see them twice a year or four times a year, depending.
Speaker 1:And yeah, I had great patience, confessions, or do you remember anything wild, a wild interaction? It could be anything. Do you remember one that was funnier?
Speaker 4:well, it's always um like funny when you're working on friends and then you like have to get you know, your hygienist like basically puts your head in their crotch and my friends would always like say something like that just makes it weird don't do that, don't do that, don't do that, but uh confessions
Speaker 1:I don't know, do you?
Speaker 4:remember me coming home telling you any confessions no, it's a while back though too.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, it's a while back, yeah, but uh, uh yeah, we're moving on, that's okay, we're getting to the past, you did a great job on the other part. Okay, we're gonna ask you both this one who were your celebrity crushes?
Speaker 4:at any age, oh, younger, oh yeah. So we have a. We have a hall pass, okay yeah okay, cool. I say the best thing about canada is not hockey, it's diana crawl, oh my god, okay, diana crawl.
Speaker 3:I don't know who that is. Oh my gosh, okay, should I know who it is?
Speaker 4:Yes, Jazz musician, okay, and strangely married to Elvis Costello, oh okay, I didn't know she was married to Elvis Costello, yeah. And uh, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, she's just gorgeous Diana Crowe. I just love her music. That's my hall pass Perfect. Who's yours? Ariel Meredith.
Speaker 2:Vera.
Speaker 1:Oh, meredith, vera. Yeah, you know who that is too. Yes, I love her. Okay, she's great.
Speaker 2:She is wonderful. Yeah, she's sweet, she's smart, she's pretty and caring and loving and yeah, she's, she's the one.
Speaker 1:Very cool.
Speaker 3:Okay, all right, awesome answers who's yours, oh?
Speaker 4:Current or like when I was a kid, because when I was a kid, like Diana Krall's been mine for I don't know how long.
Speaker 3:So if I had to pick one, it would be Kelly Kapowski. Saved by the bell.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Kelly Kapowski. If I had to pick one when I was a kid, even still, to this day, definitely, even still Kelly Kapowski. That being said, what's her name there? Wonder Woman. What's her name? Wonder?
Speaker 2:Woman.
Speaker 3:Trying to remember her real name, oh my gosh, now I'm blank.
Speaker 1:Gal Gadot, gal Gadot, gal Gadot, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she's beautiful, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's beautiful.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that would probably be my two I'm going to go with. Angelina Jolie.
Speaker 1:Oh going okay, interesting. She'd tear you up, man, I'm a regular Billy Bob Ford. I'd be scared. I'd be scared, what else?
Speaker 3:Plus, you'd have to raise her eight kids. So, yeah, questions for oh, that's Adams.
Speaker 4:Yeah, okay, from a Ted Lasso, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:I love that show. Yeah, she's awesome. Yeah, and what a voice. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh, she can sing. I saw her in a Christmas special there last year on Apple TV. Yeah, she was wicked, amazing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yep, so this is a question for both of you. So name a favorite movie or a preferred genre of film. So your favorite movie.
Speaker 4:Wow, I love Steel Magnolias but I can't watch the ending anymore. But I love watching the movie but just not the ending.
Speaker 1:I can't remember that Tom Cruise right.
Speaker 4:No, no, still Magnolia. So Dolly Parton, no, oh gosh, what am I thinking of? I have no idea what you're thinking of I can't think of any other songs Olivia Dukakis.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Julia Roberts. It's like I don't know, I can't remember all these people, but amazing lines in there too.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 4:Just the lines that they have are just unbelievable.
Speaker 1:But the daughter dies at the end and I just stop it at one point.
Speaker 3:Okay, don't finish it, all right.
Speaker 2:I've got three.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:Can I name them?
Speaker 3:Sure, or maybe you can guess Passion of the Christ.
Speaker 4:No, her eyes were closed for most of that one yeah.
Speaker 2:Heathcliff, heathcliff.
Speaker 4:Heathcliff, wuthering Heights. Yes, oh, okay.
Speaker 3:Weatherly Heights.
Speaker 4:I didn't know that.
Speaker 2:The hills are alive. Sounds like a music and the other one would be oh, I don't know nothing about birthing no babies. Is that a part?
Speaker 4:This just had an anniversary.
Speaker 2:Is that like?
Speaker 3:a really good Dolly Parton impression I think they're too young.
Speaker 2:Frankly, I don't give a damn.
Speaker 4:Oh, I think they're too young.
Speaker 3:No, it's. Frankly, I Don't Give a Damn. Is the Casablanca, isn't it?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think they're too young.
Speaker 3:Okay, then, I don't know, gone with the Wind.
Speaker 2:Yes, you got it, you got it you know, what.
Speaker 3:I couldn't sit through that movie.
Speaker 1:I couldn't sit through that movie.
Speaker 2:My wife likes that.
Speaker 3:I can't sit through that movie.
Speaker 2:I like older movies.
Speaker 3:I couldn't do that. Mine's Godfather We've talked about this many times. The Godfather 1 and 2.
Speaker 1:Question for both of you. You can be creative here. What?
Speaker 4:do you call a male?
Speaker 1:ladybug, what do you call a?
Speaker 4:male ladybug. What do you call a male ladybug? What would you call it? Does it have a different name?
Speaker 1:than ladybug? I don't know. I didn't. I did, no, no research.
Speaker 4:I just asked the question, so I I just found out like this is called a man door normally yeah in construction they call it a person door. Now, oh, oh, really yeah, because I'm always like telling deliveries leave it by the man door.
Speaker 1:A neuter bug. A neuter bug what?
Speaker 4:would you call it A neuter?
Speaker 1:bug Neutered.
Speaker 4:Neutered bug Neutered.
Speaker 2:It would be a guy bug. Guy bug.
Speaker 4:Male bug.
Speaker 1:Sure there's no wrong answer, I don't for the universe.
Speaker 2:Is there a male? No male, bad joke, all right.
Speaker 3:Because male people are on strike and blah, blah blah.
Speaker 4:I guess they're back today. Oh, thank.
Speaker 3:God, yeah, okay, yeah. So do you think aliens exist?
Speaker 4:Oh yes, we have seen enough. We have seen a UFO Like here hanging out on Earth.
Speaker 2:In Prince Edward Island. Yeah, no, the flying thing, the.
Speaker 3:UFO. You know what's funny about that we?
Speaker 1:saw a. Ufo.
Speaker 3:We've seen a UFO and when he said here hanging on Earth, I felt like going like no. Where do you think they were? Mars?
Speaker 4:Our last trip to Mars, we were introduced to a nice, nice couple from Jenny Shore, now available on Mars.
Speaker 1:On your next flight introduced to a nice, nice couple from jenny shore.
Speaker 4:Now, available on earth I wait for the the ship. Aren't they supposed to let uh spaceships off in cape breton?
Speaker 3:yes, oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, just before cape breton canceled yeah, that's gonna be really cool okay, here's a deep question.
Speaker 1:now we asked ste, asked Steve Murphy, this one as well. Here, our previous guest Name a place you are certain you have visited for the last time, a place you visited and you never want to kind of go there again for whatever reason, or you just might never need to go there again.
Speaker 4:That's funny, I know.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I want to see what she says Wow.
Speaker 1:It doesn't have to be because you don't want to go there, it just might. There might be no need to ever go there again.
Speaker 4:There's so many places we love to travel because we learn so much when we travel, and there are some places that you visit and you know you'll never be back there again. Well, you don't know. But but then there's some places I can't wait to come back here and see the rest of it. You know, like you see one part of a country but I want to come back and see other parts. You know, but uh, where, where, would you say I'd have to think about that.
Speaker 2:What would you say?
Speaker 4:I want to wait to hear what you would say you had one right away we first got together like she, she really swept me off my feet and um took me to um Paris, oh. And when we were in Paris, like we had the whole romantic vacation, like it was really just so special. And on that trip 30 years ago, we said, oh, we'll come back to Paris. Every 10 years we'll come back to Paris. So 10 years pass, we go back to Paris. We were getting ready to leave. I'm like I don't need to come back to Paris anymore.
Speaker 2:I would go back. I would go back to a different part of.
Speaker 4:France, but I don't need to go back to Paris. Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would go back to a different part of France, but I don't think I'd go back to.
Speaker 3:Paris. I remember that I'm with you there. I kind of felt like I experienced Paris. But I would go over to wine countries like that, like down at Nice or something like Marseille that place area.
Speaker 1:Sure, it's okay. If you can't answer, just have a sip of your drink.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right, there you go.
Speaker 3:You can plead the fifth. You have to drink, Okay, Okay. So I'll ask what is the worst sounding musical instrument to you guys?
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, I just came from church luncheon.
Speaker 4:Were they tuning the organ?
Speaker 2:No, the music director was talking about. In Baroque music they had that little thing. I forget what it's called. It makes a funny little and I said, oh my god, julie hates that when I'm listening to baroque music and they play that little. She told me the name of, and I can't remember isn't it like a little piano? Yeah, a little organ, like a baby organ.
Speaker 4:It makes this little I don't know music, but it's like a little like a little old piano or something. Oh it sounds tingy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's her I can answer for you.
Speaker 2:Would you say something else?
Speaker 3:I'd have to agree with that, yeah.
Speaker 2:Fair enough. And me it's remember when the hard metal guitar, heavy metal guitar.
Speaker 4:Oh, you don't like heavy metal. I love that. Were they jammed? No, no, they have that like it's just that. And I just got a guitar for Christmas. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:It's like, yeah, that that doesn't bother me, bagpipes bother me.
Speaker 3:Do they?
Speaker 2:I know they should, but I just can't stand them. Oh, I love bagpipes, you too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know I'm just not a true novice coach. I guess One instrument when it's gone.
Speaker 3:It's so cringy to me I don't know what instrument I would say I don't like. I'd have to really think about it. I mean, I can tell you if it's played poorly. A violin is probably one of the worst but if it's played very well, it's amazing.
Speaker 4:That's pretty rough Learning a violin Because Gracie just went through playing the trumpet.
Speaker 1:Oh, my Lord, the trumpet Her practice and I'd be like I've got to go in the garage for a minute.
Speaker 4:You want your kids to join a band, but then you're like, oh, I didn't know it was going to be so brutal. Oh yeah, I played the trumpet drums.
Speaker 1:What was it? The trombones, oh wow.
Speaker 4:You oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Drums are awesome.
Speaker 4:I play the saxophone. They're awesome Saxophone. Yeah, I want to play the saxophone.
Speaker 3:It's the coolest with the brass. Yeah, exactly, all right. What do we got here? This one here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, which one of you guys are the best at folding a sheet? Hey, you know like those. So you guys, interviewed Jacob and. Steve yeah.
Speaker 4:Listen, they have that show called Apocalyptic Kitchen. Yes, apocalyptic Kitchen.
Speaker 2:Sure yeah. So they teach young'uns tools that they need to know Kind of, do practical stuff, yeah, in case, the end of the world comes.
Speaker 4:Well, one episode was sheet folding.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 4:It has totally made my sheet closet. Look amazing, it changed our lives.
Speaker 2:It changed our lives. We can now shut the closet. We can shut the closet now, like the fitted sheets.
Speaker 1:Andrea is the one in our house that can do it.
Speaker 3:I couldn't you have to watch this episode. I watched the episode. You do those hospital corners, yeah, hospital corners. Well, she was a nurse. So of course I watched the nurse episode. She can do those hospital corners yeah, hospital corners. Well, she was a nurse.
Speaker 1:So of course hospital corners.
Speaker 2:She has to go back right. I mean that bed is tight, isn't it? Yeah, oh yeah, I always have to kick the sheets because I actually don't like the sheets by my feet.
Speaker 3:Yeah me either. I like to be free, I like tucked in night there's the hot flashes, so I have to flick off them. Uh, so this is our our running question for 2025. We had a running question for 2024, so this is our new one for 2025. Um, what is one piece of advice that you were given in your life that you would like to share with?
Speaker 2:us or others could be any little piece of advice so you go ahead, because if you don't use it, I'm using it my father used to say we need three things in life to really really be happy, and he said um, someone or something to love, something to do and something to hope for oh wow, I like that.
Speaker 3:That's great. Why is it?
Speaker 1:Why is it like that? Yeah, yeah, I was going to steal that one.
Speaker 3:Now you're up for something else.
Speaker 4:Yeah, mine would be that, yeah, you really should do what your gut or your heart, your soul, really is pulling you to do. Your soul really is pulling you to do, and sometimes we're not quite enough to listen to hear what that is, but I find that if people aren't fine, really following their purpose in life, that that's when they're just miserable.
Speaker 1:You got to listen to that ADHD, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, adhd, oh my gosh, it seems like both of you are doing that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, a need.
Speaker 2:HD.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh, I know, and it seems like both of you are doing that, yeah 100%, you both really seem like you're kind of living how you want to live life and it seems like you both are not doing it for you, but also doing it for others.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it feels that way. We both lost sisters when we were younger, yeah, and so we always feel that brevity of life. We both lost sisters when we were younger, yeah, and so we always feel that brevity of life. And even when you talk to somebody that's 90, you know life is short. Yes so if it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out.
Speaker 1:It's slower, they go by way faster.
Speaker 2:And I put the spiritual head on this one and I say I really believe that God, god or creator, whatever you want to call the divine really places these things within our hearts yeah that we're born with this in our heart, that that this is what we're supposed to do and that may change throughout our life. But it's kind of listening and back to what julie was saying trusting that calling in your life, whatever that may be, because it comes from somewhere and I think it comes from that inner passion and that inner drive that we were created with.
Speaker 4:And Confucius. What's that famous Confucius line that a journey of a thousand miles begins with one foot, yeah, one step at a time. A journey of a thousand miles begins with that first step.
Speaker 2:Oh yes, and it's always that first step.
Speaker 4:That first step is always the hardest to say okay, I'm going to do this.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's like how to eat an elephant one bite at a time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, yeah.
Speaker 3:That kind of thing. Yeah, exactly, I love that. No, that's great.
Speaker 4:Well, that way I'm sure you guys have heard you you must have, like some words of wisdom for us, no, just keep being yourselves, cause you guys are awesome.
Speaker 3:I guess we're kind of collecting and stuff like that. We're collecting wisdom and and and we're. I see, last year, uh, we asked people like what was one thing that you, uh, would say that you know not advice, but was it one thing you'd say that could make the world a better place? Yeah, and pretty much everyone said be kind.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like it was like a 95%.
Speaker 1:Bigger answers. Right, we're trying to get some bigger answers.
Speaker 3:So everyone was just be kind, be kind, be kind, which I think is true. We got some deeper answers. Some people said be kind, but then it's more than that. You know, you go a little deeper, but yeah, so we're just, we're going to be collecting some good advice this year, but yeah, it is what it is. I don't know, I'm a quote person. I like quotes.
Speaker 4:So I like collecting those my dad's that's always stuck with us. Yeah, yeah, that's someone to love something, to hope for something to do and something to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's been awesome talking to you guys. I love it. Thank you, cheers.
Speaker 3:Sure, check them out. Absolutely, thank you and drink them on the flights.
Speaker 2:Cheers everybody. Yeah, thank you for listening Into a really good 2025.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:Thank you.
