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Afternoon Pint
Derrick Bona & Rick Horsman - A weight loss journey in losing over 250lbs and the fitness trainer who had his back.
Its not everyday a personal weight loss journey captures the attention of Arnold Schwarzenegger! This week we chat with Derrick Bona, a man who went viral after posting about his weight loss journey from weighing over 600lbs and his remarkable weight loss.
His personal trainer turned friend, Rick Horsman joins us also and gives us a no BS approach on how he helped Derrick in reaching his goals. Tune in for a funny and honest conversation about health, fitness, cutting out junk foodand pushing yourself to your full potential.
This episode was recorded at Hardisty Brewing in Cole Harbour Nova Scotia!
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Speaker 1:Just a fat guy who's friends with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Well, that's pretty cool that you're friends with Arnold Schwarzenegger, so maybe start with that. How the heck does Arnold Schwarzenegger know who you are? A guy in Gold Harbor.
Speaker 4:I'm still waiting on my Christmas card. I must have got lost with the strike and everything, I guess.
Speaker 3:I don't know.
Speaker 4:Just you know, I was on Twitter one day and I posted a photo of me I'm on a weight loss journey here and, you know, trying to get skinny. But I posted just an updated photo just to a couple of people that knew about it and usually six people see my tweets and all of a sudden it went viral and next thing, you know, arnold Schwarzenegger, you know, seen it and retweeted with a personalized message and the rest of it has been history.
Speaker 1:That's life changing. Right, that's pretty awesome. Yeah, and uh, that's so. I was late to the party, as always, and uh, so I thought it was six months ago. My 600 pound life was your. Was your tiktok handle, right? 600 pound journey, 600 pound journey story and uh, you lost how many pounds.
Speaker 4:I mean from where you started, where you at now so I started, uh, we're gonna estimate it was 600, 600 plus, but you couldn't really uh didn't really know because there was no scale around big enough to weigh me. But uh, as of right now, a month, actually three weeks shy of uh, two years yeah, two years I'm 240 pounds down somewhere amazing man, man, cheers to that, bro, yeah, cheers, cheers to that.
Speaker 1:Holy smokes Awesome.
Speaker 4:It's been a hell of a ride ever since the old.
Speaker 3:And you're drinking beer. So it proves that beer is still a good health drink.
Speaker 1:Still on the Barely barely this episode comes out in February, but I'm going through a dry January right now and I'm also going through a no junk food January. I have a little addiction. It's called Hawkins Cheesies.
Speaker 3:Worse than anything, they're my favorite I have some in the cupboard right now.
Speaker 1:They talk to me at night and I don't touch them.
Speaker 3:When he means covered, he means work cupboard also, I had them at work, I had them everywhere.
Speaker 1:In the trunk of the car.
Speaker 3:Under the toilet. Just lift the lid off the back of the toilet. Cheesy stuffed in there. Shout out to Hawkins, I'll be back in.
Speaker 1:February.
Speaker 3:You know I hate them.
Speaker 1:So are you a Hawkins Cheesy? I do.
Speaker 2:I don't think I know Hawkins Really.
Speaker 1:They're like the most iconic Canadian cheese. They're the ones that come in the red and white bag. Yeah, yeah, see them all the time.
Speaker 3:Okay, I'll see them now. For sure they're so and they're the crunchy.
Speaker 1:They're really, really crunchy 're just like what's going on with this company, right? Why do I have such a crazy Cheesy in this bank? Anyways, fascinating company. We go all over the place on this show.
Speaker 3:There's really no agenda right, so shout out to Hawkins Please send us a box of Cheesys to sponsor us. Yeah, amazing.
Speaker 1:So back to Arnold, so back to Arnoldnold, yeah, so back to arnold. And you right, like I mean you know, obviously, you, you, I just want you to tell me, man, like when you, when you got to this point and you wanted to make a change like you're, like I mean you wanted to say I don't want to live this way anymore, how did that decision come up front, or what happened?
Speaker 4:this has been building up for, you know, a few years. Um, you know, I've been. I've been a guy, a bigger guy, my whole life. But I had some health issues about 10 years ago that really escalated this some blood clots and whatnot but it just got to the point where mental health took over and it just put me into kind of a dark space. I battled a lot with chronic leg ulcers and lymphedema. I'm a chef, so 25 years and counting so far, those 25 years being on your feet, working 12 to 16-hour days, it's been pretty brutal, especially when you've got literally holes in your legs and you're still continuing to work because you've got a mortgage, so you've got to keep going.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, and there were significant holes in his legs.
Speaker 4:and you're still continuing to work because you know you got a mortgage, so you got to keep going yeah, exactly, and they were significant holes, yeah, like don't let him downplay that if you go through my social media, I suppose I'm very open to my whole journey, so I post everything because you never know who's I'm reaching right.
Speaker 4:I was inspired by somebody posted their journey, so now I feel like this is my way of paying it back. So who are you inspired by? Just like any could be, anybody like, just you know scrolling through tiktok and you see these guys that are, you know who are my size or you know are more, and then now they're lifting weights and they're social media.
Speaker 1:Like seeing all these folks that kind of helped you like oh realize you hey, I'm gonna do this, I can do this. I see these dudes doing it and I can do it yeah, absolutely like it.
Speaker 4:You know there's it. You don't realize how strong you are until you actually get into it right. When you start believing in yourself, when you start thinking negatively, your mind's going to think negatively and tell your body like you don't need this. You need what makes you feel good For me. I'm addicted to food. Food is my addiction. People have alcohol, people have marijuana, whatever it is. I use food in a negative way to help make me feel good. I'm using quotations.
Speaker 4:You probably can't see me, but no no but yeah, but uh, you know, and being a chef, what's what's regularly available to me is food right, and if you're a chef, you can make it real good too. Yeah, you know you're making a 40 50 dollar plates and then you're going home eating craft dinner you know, because you worked 16 hour days or right and you're eating fries all day out of a bowl because that's you know, that's what you have time for yeah, you have time for it if you're not a smoker, you don't.
Speaker 4:You get extra breaks, you know like so it just, it just snowballed over the years and I just got to the point I'm like all right, well, I'm just, uh, I'm here until I'd love to get back to you on diet, but you know.
Speaker 1:So how did uh this relationship, relationship between you and Rick start? Like, did you guys what happened there? Did you just go at it yourself first, Like before Rick? Did you try doing it yourself, or what was?
Speaker 4:I tried many, many, many times, but you know what it came down to. I just wasn't ready and I think I needed to hit rock bottom and realize, like I had a doctor tell me he was like you need to go off work to heal your legs. I'm like I can't do it. I got a mortgage. She's like. Well, you can work another two months or you're losing your legs, so you make that choice, right, so you have to go off work.
Speaker 4:So I had no choice, you know, like, all right, well, I guess I gotta go off work. Yeah, went into like a, like a pretty. I had a pretty bad fall. I went in off in december of 2022. I had a pretty bad fall on January 1st 2023. Couldn't pick myself up. I rolled around my yard like a beach whale. You know neighbor stopped. It must have been like six cars that stopped trying to help me pick up. And I always, you know, being a bigger guy, use humor as a way of you know, yeah a crutch, yeah a crutch got huge in the situation.
Speaker 2:I do that myself.
Speaker 4:Yeah, right, so I think we're all guilty of yeah, so you know, played it off like, oh, you know, slip fell, but that it killed me, like it. That was the, and I just took my wife one day I think it was like a couple weeks later and I was like I need to do something. She was uh-huh. And she said uh-huh, because I said this a million times yeah and I said no, I'm serious this time.
Speaker 4:I need to do something because I can't live like this. Either I don't want to be here anymore, or I need to do something to fix this so I could be here more yeah, so when you reached out for help, where'd you go?
Speaker 4:yeah, so I you know what being being a chef like I said I know the foods I'm supposed to be eating right, right like so following through tiktok, you see these people talking about calorie counting and you know calorie deficits, and so I started watching a lot of videos on that and it's like, okay, maybe I'll give this a shot myself. But I didn't really watching a lot of videos on that and I was like, okay, maybe I'll give this a shot myself, but I didn't really know a lot of it. I said I'm just going to eat three meals a day. I want to focus on healthy, lean proteins, you know, like good carbs, rice, pasta, vegetables and I'll just see what happens. I'll drink four liters of water a day and let's see what's going to go on.
Speaker 4:And after a few weeks I started noticing some changes in my body. I felt better and I was like well, but I still didn't have that number. So I bought a scale off amazon that companies would use to deliver packages and weigh packages and I jumped in the scale and I was 574 I think that was four weeks into it and my doctor said, well, judging by the, you know what you're eating. She said you're probably averaging 14 pounds a day. She said you were probably six or north of six.
Speaker 2:Right, when we started paying attention to how much she was weighing, he was losing like eight and nine pounds a week. Yeah, wow, yeah.
Speaker 4:So after my first 50 pounds, you know I was feeling good and that's what. Took the photo and put it on Twitter. And that's what took the photo and put it on Twitter and Arnold seeing it, then I felt really good, yeah, and then we'll be actually a little before that yeah, cause before Arnold seen it was about a week on Twitter where it went kind of semi viral a George Strabo seeing it kind of you know, and then I reached out to Rick one an email.
Speaker 4:He could probably tell the story a lot better, but I reached out through email, just basically told them where I was.
Speaker 3:So what drew you to Rick?
Speaker 4:I needed help and I've tried many times before. He says it's his face. We both have crooked eyes sometimes right, all the time. So I reached out many times before to their gyms and I got ignored. So I did one on Coal Harbor Connection Facebook group. Oh, yeah, yeah, ofion Facebook group I looked up personal trainer and I seen this guy and I'm like, ooh, this guy's too expensive and then you seen Rick, and then I seen Rick, I'm cheap as hell, I'm cheap as hell.
Speaker 1:Rick reminded me of no Frills ad.
Speaker 4:I seen Rick and I went to his Facebook page and I'm like, oh shit, I'm already following this guy. So, anyway, anyway, I just sent him an email. I just told my backstory and I didn't expect to hear but back from, because I'm used to, you know, messaging back. But I think it was like 6 am.
Speaker 2:I had a text message or yeah, he messaged me. Uh, good Friday yeah 2023 and, uh, I didn't quite know how I was going to help him. He explained his stories like hey, I'm, you know, upwards of 600 pounds. I need help and I'm like, am I gonna have to go to his house, like what's this gonna look like?
Speaker 2:by the time I was training out of my basement yeah small groups and, uh, I saw that we had a couple mutual friends. So I messaged one of the mutual friends and I was like, hey, like how do you know, derek? Like am I going to be able to help this guy? And she's like, oh my God, he's the best guy. Like you want to message him, like right now? So I messaged him. We got him in the next day. Like he came in Saturday and it was rough, like it was a slow session. We modified most things, but literally within three months he was doing everything.
Speaker 2:Amazing bro Everything that I would ask anyone to do. He was doing within three months. And back to you he's the most capable person in the studio now.
Speaker 1:Your fitness journey. Rick, you came into this. How did you become a personal trainer? What's your background?
Speaker 2:So I was a dorky, unpopular, stinky kid and in grade 7, I joined the track and field team and started lifting weights and sort of turned my life around socially with fitness. And in grade 11, there's a PALCOM program.
Speaker 3:We're about the same age.
Speaker 2:Right there's the Career and Lifestyles Management In grade 11, you you shadow someone that you want to do their work and I wanted to own a gym. And in my head, I wanted to own a gym like a gym that you'd come to and work out independently and whatever. That's what I wanted to do yeah and now fast forward. I'm I'm running like a personal training studio.
Speaker 2:It's not at all what I was thinking, but it's yeah, it's better hands, it's better than it's totally hands-on every single person in the studio is doing what I'm telling them to do at all times and yeah, I've been in business, I've been doing personal training for 17 years and I've had my own studio for nine years. Do you feel?
Speaker 3:that style. I mean for me. I'm not in the industry, but I feel that that style is really, really taking off and people are feeling a little bit more drawn to that uh like yeah because you have like the all the other ones, like the orange theories, the, uh, whatever the other ones, crossfit and yeah, all these other stuff where someone's really hands-on, as opposed to just go to fit for less workout and go home, kind of thing yeah, it depends on what you're drawn to right like.
Speaker 2:Those fit for less gyms are budget friendly. Oh, they're great. I'm not shooting them down.
Speaker 3:I feel based on my social media, when I see people they're going to these classes, they're going to the community Because they like the community.
Speaker 2:They like the support.
Speaker 3:It seems that that seems funny enough in a world where we trying to like automate a lot of things. Right, that's not going that way, absolutely, it's not.
Speaker 2:So. A few years ago there was a product, it was a mirror and I had like a hologramic personal trainer. It's like peloton okay but I have like a hologramic personal trainer in it sounds very demolition man, but a few of us were kind of shitting our pants right Like uh-oh.
Speaker 3:We're going to get placed by the skim mirrors, dude. No, they did not. No, they didn't take off at all no.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But it was something we all kind of had our eye on. How about?
Speaker 1:like do you know? Again, I'm kind of with Matt on this. I don't know about the industry or she still has the app. It's like the Beachbody, whatever thing. Yeah, absolutely. So she's watching videos on the screen and doing it. Is that losing popularity? You think in live? Do you think people are coming back to real gyms, so Beachbody.
Speaker 2:they just rebranded recently to Body and they just changed their whole business model, so they were a multi-level marketing company. Yes, that's, right so you'd have ladies selling DVDs out of the trunk of their car.
Speaker 1:Kind of.
Speaker 2:They've totally done away with that now. So they're not multi-level marketing anymore, they're direct sales. So you go on the website and you can buy the DVDs. But they've totally changed their business model literally in the last two months. Interesting, but there's a market for that. There's people that are motivated enough to work out in their living room, like there's not this guy.
Speaker 1:I hate that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, no, no, and not not any of my people either Right, but most people have a treadmill in their basement and their clothes hang on it, so a service like mine appeals to people that want to come and like, have a little community. There's a? There's a phenomenon we're sitting in a bar right now. There's a phenomenon called the third, the third place right that you have. You have two places where you have purpose. By default, you have home and work yeah you go home, you have purpose.
Speaker 2:You go to work, you have purpose. You need a third place and traditionally that's been church okay, yeah and then in the last 50 years that slowly become places like this, like a bar. Yeah right, the show cheers. It's all about those people's third place, right? And there's this idea that if you can have a studio like mine and you can make that the third place for people, then you have raving lunatic fans that will never leave you right so that's something that I've really tried to cultivate is like I've
Speaker 3:got people that come five six times a week.
Speaker 2:Derek's there almost every day when he's on. Right now he's gone through a transition with work. He hasn't been around as much, but the people that come to the studio are raving lunatic fans. They'll ride or die. For me, yeah, incredible, which is what I'm after.
Speaker 1:So back to you, Derek, so to work. I saw the post because I've been following you for the last six months now. Congratulations you, Because I've been following you for the last six months now.
Speaker 4:Congratulations you got back to work and that was a journey getting back to work, right? Yeah, it still is. Yeah, yeah, no right on. So how's that going?
Speaker 1:and what's that been like through this whole process?
Speaker 4:It's been going okay. There's been some hiccups, but you know, to get back to some normalcy in my life life, you know, because I mean everyone. I know a picture people out there that would say, no, you know, he's off two weeks, two years, and he's sitting home and get paid. No, this is my full-time job. Like I needed to do this, it was, you know.
Speaker 4:So I've been working my ass off literally, you know to to get to these things and it's been rewarding, because now I'm doing things that I'd never thought I'd be able to do before. And when you go through something like this, you don't realize the things that you lose, the everyday things like putting on your own socks in the morning. I couldn't do that, I couldn't cut my own toenails, I couldn't pick myself up off the floor. Now I'm starting to run a bit. I'm trying to run, jogging I guess, but still doing I can put my socks on. Now I'm I'm independent. It's like I'm breaking, breaking down the restrictions that were holding me down in life and moving forward. So you know, back to work is was the main, was another main goal uh, you know so it's going well.
Speaker 4:It's a slow transition, um, you know, build myself up, but I'm up to almost eight hours a day now and body feels good, um, amazing, yeah, so you know, but it's, it's opening a lot more opportunities for me in the future and that's what's through your social media?
Speaker 1:have you had, uh people reaching out, people coming to you now saying, hey look, I'm trying to do this, man.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, all the time, yeah yeah, you know any, uh, any insights? You know what could I do? How should I start?
Speaker 3:yeah, yeah you know that, just uh you know what could I do?
Speaker 4:How should I start? Yeah, you know, just you know where should I go. Hey, they're like can you give me Rick's information? Like can he help me? You know, like so.
Speaker 3:Are you paying him some royalties there, rick?
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no no, that year 2023, was in May, I believe. Yeah.
Speaker 4:No, it was just after my birthday, april. Yeah.
Speaker 2:So Derek started with me, let's say, late April.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I was going through a divorce. I was training out of my house. Oh yeah, I was leaving the house.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So I opened a commercial studio.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Just across the street from where we are right now. On June 27th so about a month and a half, two months after I met Derek, I opened my own studio, and the rent of my studio is as much money as I was making out of my house. This guy's literally put my business on his back. He talks about Arnold Schwarzenegger. Butterbean also tweeted at him. He didn't eat oh there you go.
Speaker 3:I loveegger Butterbean. Also tweeted at him. He didn't eat. Oh hey, there you go, I love Butterbean. Butterbean might be cooler than Arnold actually, so I don't know about that. I like Butterbean, but like Arnold is, like you know. I like Bill Burr's little bit where he talks about like Arnold has fit like four lifetimes of achievement. It's all in one.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, everything has fit like four lifetimes of achievements all in one. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Everything he says he's gonna do with this. But like derek put a post on facebook locally and like I'll get five new customers, like half of my customers right now, if you ask them like hey, how'd you start with rick? Like yeah, they said always saw derek's post when I signed up with rick.
Speaker 4:I was like, hey, man, like if you want to post about me, do whatever you got to do, like make money off me, like oh he goes. No, I'm never going to do that. He said if you want to post about me, you can go right ahead. But he said I'll never use you for for gains, right.
Speaker 3:So I respect that, I respect that a lot right.
Speaker 4:I respect that he posted a ton and I know I was like yeah this is my way of you know helping him, helping others, so I just you know here's a phenomenon that does happen, though.
Speaker 2:People message me all the time they go I saw Derek's, I saw Derek's journey, I need to lose weight, yeah, they'll say. They'll say, yeah, I saw Derek's journey, I want to lose weight. I want to come twice a week. Right, like Derek's story is not. I come to Rick's classes twice a week, derek comes to Rick's classes five twice a week. That's right, derek comes to Rick's classes five times a week.
Speaker 3:That's right.
Speaker 2:He walks every day for an hour Yep, and he eats an entirely different diet than he used to eat.
Speaker 1:That's right.
Speaker 2:So people message me all the time. They're like, hey, I want to train twice a week. I'm like all right, that's cool and I'm glad Derek sent you my way and it's totally fine. But you do not expect Derek results If that like I mean, maybe that's a start for some people right If they were doing nothing.
Speaker 3:And all of a sudden, two times a week, is there a starting point Great, right, right, cause I mean that you know, cause they might get to five, cause they, you know, it's that community Absolutely they may end up wanting to go there every day. Right, end up wanting to go there every day, right, yep, and that's a good thing, um, but I think yeah, I think I, I know what you mean like some to get direct results though like that's 200 pounds, 200 pounds in a year and a little bit like no, that's, that's you, you lost me yeah, yeah, he's incredible.
Speaker 2:He is incredible force of nature yeah so that's the thing right, so it's.
Speaker 3:It's one of those things where it's um yeah it's impressive, but the thing is too is like you were going back about. Some people might say like, oh, you were sitting home for two years or whatever, but and we were literally losing stuff. But the fact is, is that anyone who's choosing to be healthy and I mean I don't I I think it's a great thing, because I'm not one to go out and body shame people or anything like that right absolutely.
Speaker 3:But there's a difference between, like, body shamingaming and just someone choosing to get healthy, and I think it's really important that, whether it is just eating better or it's just moving more and all those things, that those are things that should be celebrated. It's not that necessarily. It's like oh great, I don't want to be fat anymore, I want to be healthy, I want to live longer, I want to be there for your wife, for your kids, whatever it may be right. So it's, it's those types of things and so. But the kind of caveat to that is what I was leading to is that you were maybe off, but you were trying to lessen the burden of, like, the health care that you may have to see coming.
Speaker 4:Yeah, kind of thing, right, yeah, like I was already at the point where I had VON coming daily to dress my legs Right, so I'd go to work, then have to rush home and get home at 6 or 7 o'clock at night and I'd be up until almost midnight to get a nurse to come change the wounds, wrap my legs.
Speaker 2:The mutual friend that I messaged was one of his VON nurses actually.
Speaker 4:Oh, okay, the weight loss has been unbelievable, you know, but the biggest flex I think I can honestly say is that I'm mentally stronger now.
Speaker 3:That's true too.
Speaker 4:Like that's the biggest part of it. I was in a bad spot, like I was ready to just end it all and get out of here.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And you know like now that I'm seeing a future, I want to travel, I want to go and do things with my wife. Before I was just like. I'm just going to sit here and eat myself to death and I'll be out of my misery soon.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I don't think people realize the addiction that happens. It's been proven that the chemicals that are in especially, like you know, shitty foods do have a grasp on your mind, similar to drugs gambling and all these things that people can become addicted to. And that food. Like you know, you go out and eat that McDonald's Every time.
Speaker 4:like I try to limit that, but every time I go out and have a.
Speaker 3:McDonald's burger. The funny thing is is like I crave a McDonald's burger again the next day and it just takes the will to say no, don't do that, you have to just check it.
Speaker 1:It's easy to fall into a habit of getting McDonald's every day every second day, especially in this world where we're always so busy.
Speaker 3:Like.
Speaker 1:I said three different places, as you were saying.
Speaker 4:We all have that, and now you've got McDonald's and all these other apps, so they're going to reward you for coming here.
Speaker 2:You, you have an app, so they're going to reward you for coming here.
Speaker 4:You come here a couple times a week. We're going to give you a free burger. That's right.
Speaker 2:There's this idea too, that willpower is a finite resource, so everybody wakes up with 100 willpowers right, okay. And if you're out of shape or if you're depressed or if you're whatever, it takes some of those willpowers just to get out of bed. Right, yeah, yeah yeah, and it takes some of those will powers to go to work and live through your day and every single person that lives when they drive home. There's the big yellow arches right and those yellow arches are saying don't cook supper.
Speaker 4:Don't cook supper.
Speaker 2:Just pull through the drive-thru. It's easier to feed your family. Stop through right and, if you have, none of your will powers left, you go, yeah sure.
Speaker 4:I'll stop in right. Listen, if I was at work, I'd be just miserable with pain, feet, ankles, knees, everything I would eat probably who wants to go home and make a steak?
Speaker 2:yeah, but I would.
Speaker 4:I would probably devour a bottle of tunnels in a week just to get through shifts, you know um, probably took more than I should have. Um, and then like just the whole, like where I said use food as addiction, like some days I wouldn't even realize it and and I'd kind of snap to it and the next thing I know I'm in the drive-thru. Right and I'm like how the hell did I get here? My brain's telling me oh, you need that burger, you need you know, Just the addiction. Part of things took over.
Speaker 3:And.
Speaker 4:I used to the little things that when you start counting calories that add up like at home, three plates of pasta it all adds up. And when I truly started looking into it and realizing at 600 pounds just for me to maintain 600 pounds it was to eat 5,200 calories a day. Wow, just to maintain that.
Speaker 3:The gain that you need to eat Because it's actually it is hard to like keep the weight on right. Like you're saying, you lost like nine pounds a week. Yeah, you could have lost nine pounds a week, literally just not eating what you're eating without even moving. Right so it is an actual like feat in a way to keep the weight on.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's a lot of calories. Just sitting at 600 pounds, sitting doing nothing, I was burning almost 6,000, a little over 6,000 calories a day just by doing nothing and then so like to gain a pound of fat, you need to eat 3,200 calories over your maintenance calories.
Speaker 1:So you know Well. And then when you switch to healthier eating I mean, like you know, I'm on the very beginning stages of this. So, again, my partner, she's ahead of me, so she has this MyFitnessPal app. So, I downloaded a free version of that. I'm tracking my food right now. Yeah and man, the healthy food is like when you stick to lean proteins. Dude like way lower calories You're like holy smokes You're like. So I'm actually having a hard time getting to what I'm supposed to have for calories.
Speaker 2:So the breakdown on that is a gram of protein is four calories for calories. So the breakdown on that is a gram of protein is four calories. Yeah, a gram of carbohydrate is also four calories and a gram of fat is nine calories so as soon as you introduce fat to a meal, the calorie goes through the roof what about sugar?
Speaker 2:I mean, it's carbohydrate I mean, the problem is refined sugar, then stores yeah, I was gonna say it's dangerous in other ways but as far as calorie count, four, four calories for a gram of protein and carbohydrate, yeah, but, fat is nine. So when you add fat, if what you're caring about is calories, when you add fat, you do it exponentially increase maybe I'm completely like out of touch on here, but whenever like I, we always, we always, we don't I don't.
Speaker 3:If you came to my place right now, I don't think you could find a bag of white sugar or even brown sugar. Good, but the because we often what we'll do is we substitute um for, like, more natural sugars, and I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but we use honey or maple syrup yeah, that's great. Yeah, I mean it's, yeah, absolutely we, so we'll replace anything with those types of things. I don't know if that makes any difference or not, but yeah.
Speaker 2:So I'm not a nutritionist.
Speaker 3:No, no exactly.
Speaker 2:Derek goes to see a dietician. Yeah, I don't speak about food, a whole lot.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's outside of the scope of practice for personal trainers. Fair enough, right? Well, that's fair.
Speaker 4:I mean, I already know type of dietitian and reading up a lot of it, but it's, it's, you know, the refined sugars, like it's, it's manufactured, like it's broke down, at least with the you know, honey and and maple syrup, it's, you know, as long as it's pure uh, you know and unpasteurized. It's, it's natural, like it's you know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's still well, that's the only way. I'm real picky when it comes to maple syrup. I actually been joking around that we I want to do a blind maple syrup testing because I'm like really particular, it needs to be maple syrup. Oh yeah, and I have a brand that I like and I swear you could blind taste me with 10 different ones and I could pick out my brand just by tasting it. Yeah.
Speaker 1:He likes maple syrup I like maple syrup. He's really good.
Speaker 4:My wife's Quebecois, so he got the plaid shirt on. That'll do it.
Speaker 1:All right, so back to you, man. So what's your diet like now?
Speaker 4:So now I work with a great dietitian here in Dartmouth. Her name is Amanda Grant.
Speaker 4:She's out of LifeMark, oh yeah yeah, lifemark, and I see her at the PT Health in Baker Drive, but she's unbelievable. So before, like I said, I didn't know what I was doing, I just knew. I didn't even start tracking when I first started. I just ate those three meals a day, drank my four liters of water, and then I was like, oh, okay, I'm losing weight. So then I was like I'm just curious. I started reading more about it and so I just started tracking and I was like, okay, okay, so I'm right around, you know 2500 calories. And then, uh, she had said you know that you should eat more protein. More protein is going to heal. It's going to heal my wound, it's going to. You know, we look into vitamins, like, uh, you know, certain vitamins are going to help heal with the wounds and everything.
Speaker 2:and she really highlighted fiber as well.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I wasn't eating enough fiber, because I was like geez, I'm plateauing here and I feel like I shouldn't be. It just turns out I wasn't eating enough calories. You've got to find that balance and as you lose weight. It always changes, but right now I stick around 2,000 calories and I'd probably put 160 grams of protein. I tried.
Speaker 3:Metamucil for the first time for the first time in my life, Two days ago, I was like holy smokes that two days ago I was like holy smokes, that thing cleans the pipes, right?
Speaker 1:I wouldn't believe I had so many, I mean.
Speaker 3:I missed half a day of work yesterday.
Speaker 1:I was just like I had to leave three times. I couldn't believe it. I was like, wow, I was scared, right, maybe I took just a teaspoon. Did I overdose on my blue chain. But yeah, I mean because I've always, always everyone that I know that's, yeah, you know, older folks have always told me you know, get fiber in your diet as you get older. It's one of the best things you can do for your nutrition yeah, like your health and you know what it's.
Speaker 4:Honestly, it's as simple as just having like a fruit and a vegetable with every meal. Like, honestly, it comes down to that people you know say oh, I have a hard time eating fiber, you don't like fruit, you don't like any kind of fruit. I don't like fruit a whole lot, no, but is there a?
Speaker 1:fruit you do like, I like strawberries and blueberries.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's what I do. Yeah, it's like you know what I mean. There's always I like peaches.
Speaker 1:And so I got the frozen peaches.
Speaker 2:I put them. If you Google foods that are high in fiber, you'll find a hundred foods like beans, but there is a lot of peakier people out there.
Speaker 4:They don't like a lot of things. I'm fortunate I'm a chef. I love everything. Obviously Wouldn't have blown the 600 pounds, I'd like everything, but it's to find what works for you. There's a lot of things out there that work. A lot of people do the carnivore diet and stuff like that. A lot of people do the carnivore diet and stuff like that Not for me.
Speaker 3:I love eating protein. I tried that Not because of necessarily for diet. I tried it mostly to try to figure out what the hell is messing my guts up so much?
Speaker 4:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3:It turns out I don't know that's a whole other discussion.
Speaker 4:But you enjoyed the steak.
Speaker 3:I actually did the lion's diet, which is even a step further. You're only a step further, so the lions, you're only a gazelle.
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1:And I had to run around and actually prey on it too. The circle of life plays out once in a while. He's running in the circle, I just hold my son up over the rocks?
Speaker 3:No, but the lion's diet is only red meat, so you don't even eat.
Speaker 1:It's what a lion could eat basically, what do you mean? Like a lion could eat if he was domesticated, like had little work paws and he was like going to the office, no, what's a lion going to eat?
Speaker 3:in, like you know the Sahara. Okay, there's no like wild chickens running around Like they go after red meat Bison, yeah, of chickens running around like they.
Speaker 1:They go after. They have to go after red bison. Yeah, they go red meat, they go after pre-packaged meat.
Speaker 4:So like, basically what I could do is I could.
Speaker 3:I could have, like cow I could have I get it now. I'm seasoned practice tumbleweed, so I did I did that for honestly for a month and it still didn't figure out what the hell is causing my gut problems.
Speaker 4:But either way um yeah, so there's a bunch of different stuff there is like you've just got to find something that works with your lifestyle and you know that you can maintain. You know, like I always say, you don't get to be perfect, you just need to be consistent. You know, just keep showing up, like I had my days where, you know, like this Christmas, last Christmas, I was dead set Keep my calories. I didn't, you know, didn't go off, track, off track.
Speaker 1:And this christmas I'm like, I'm enjoying myself, so this episode's gonna go in january. But I'm sorry in february, but at the end of january, now when I go back to it, do you recommend, like I have, like maybe one cheesy night a month where I just go?
Speaker 4:nuts or maybe like a bag of cheeses every two weeks, like yeah like here's, here's best thing when eating a calorie deficit, you save calories for the end of the week. It it all comes down to calories in, calories out so if you eat in calorie deficit, you get the surplus of calories. You can afford to have that bag of chips a week.
Speaker 3:That's the cheap day, right yeah.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 2:Not every day, though.
Speaker 4:You know, but now I'm like instead of having a big bag of chips. I turn to the back Okay, 50 grams. Yeah, 240 calories.
Speaker 3:Right. But you know what that's the thing about, just being like so and we're trying to raise him in a sense that, like, all food is food, yep and cause. You know, when you say certain foods are bad or you restrict them or anything like that, then they want it more and all this other stuff, right. So I was super like happy. Like I said, it's three years old, he had a sore throat, bought him a little container of ice cream, chocolate ice cream. So we went through and scooped a little bit in there and, no joke, I was like three little like spoonfuls in and he goes that's enough, that's enough and I was like jeez man.
Speaker 4:You're damn right.
Speaker 3:it is what three-year-old is sitting there saying like that's enough. And he just took his three little scoops and he went and he ate it up and everything. And I was like holy crap. And my wife says that's what happens when you don't treat like food, like it's a bad guy or anything like that you don't restrict it.
Speaker 3:It's the same thing with alcohol, like we try to like. Tell people you can't drink, you can't drink, you can't drink, and next thing you know they're 19 years old, they get their first legal drink and they go and they get freaking plaster.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but I'm sure you guys are probably raised the same way I was. You know your grandma would always make sure you left full. You didn't finish your food and you needed to finish that, clean that plate. You had to.
Speaker 2:If there's a pregnant lady in the room she's eating for two.
Speaker 4:It was everything we do as Maritimers and people, it's all based around food. The Maritimers die.
Speaker 1:But it's very fat-based too. A lot of fried foods, gravy eat, eat, eat.
Speaker 4:fat base too, right a lot of fried foods gravy like yeah, eat and you know it, it, so it it. That gets passed down. It's generational. You know like it is bread in, you're like you know.
Speaker 2:So all bread, bread, bread bread india that should be I got.
Speaker 3:I do like bread, but you know I'll tell you one thing, though, that there has to be a clear difference in having fresh homemade bread versus store-bought bread?
Speaker 4:Oh, absolutely, it's preservative, exactly.
Speaker 3:And the taste is better and everything. But my wife has a friend who makes her own sourdoughs and stuff and she likes to experiment. She gives them to us here and there and man, oh man, that's next level bread kind of thing, yeah I do so. I do like my bread and it goes moldy yeah so you gotta eat it.
Speaker 4:You gotta eat it quick store-bought bread sits on your fridge for three weeks yeah, yeah, something's funny there and sourdough is so good like, especially if people are diabetic, and stuff too, because it helps maintain your metabolism so you don't get the big spikes with the so you're saying I should get like I.
Speaker 1:Sourdough is like the best bread maybe to have oh yeah, 100, yeah, yeah I have a dear friend who's like gluten issues and sourdough is fine really wow.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, that's really cool, and over in europe flour doesn't bother her huh yeah, that's because we're here well you know, in Europe flour doesn't bother her, huh yeah, it bothers her here, it bothers her here, but it doesn't bother her in Europe we have all that enriched flour which has like potato enzymes in it and stuff like that enriched sounds like a good thing, right, it's not.
Speaker 1:I'm like that's super flour, but it's not it's totally not enriched flour sounds like flour that went to a good school, it's.
Speaker 3:Harvard flour. This flour is educated, I know but it's actually enriched, actually as like not a good flour.
Speaker 2:It's crazy, it's shelf stable. That's right, it's shelf stable, that's right.
Speaker 4:And it's also like you know I mean food prices are crazy these days, right, so a lot of it is.
Speaker 1:It's Today Junior yeah, I'm trying to think of the word.
Speaker 4:It's an epidemic. It's cheaper to eat unhealthier food than it is to eat.
Speaker 3:You know what I used to think.
Speaker 1:That's a problem Healthier food is cheaper. Okay, so here's the debate.
Speaker 2:I want to push back against you two, but I'll let these guys go first.
Speaker 1:This is like. So you just kind of got into a funny thing. Healthy food is cheaper, right?
Speaker 3:No, sorry Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 4:No, he's saying unhealthy food Is cheaper for the consumer to buy Than it is healthier food. Like a box of Kraft dinner for 99 cents and you can't even get a bag of peas and corn now for less than $2.
Speaker 3:So here's the thing. I used to think that way too, and I've changed my thought process on it. You're right to a degree Healthier food is more expensive when you have a little bit less privilege, or you have less privilege If you have. Certain times it's more effort to eat healthier and eat better.
Speaker 4:I'll give you an example 100% more effort.
Speaker 3:Here on Dartmouth we've got Gateway. On Halifax side we've got the Kingswood Market. I go there and I'm not joking I drop $150 on just meat alone. That's what I do. I buy meat once every six weeks. I buy $150, and I have meat for every day for six weeks because I go home.
Speaker 1:It's like Gazelli found in the Sahara, exactly. He's drinking all of his tea, but I divide it up.
Speaker 3:They have chicken big packs of chicken for a really good price. I come out and I take them all up and I divide and I put three to four chicken breasts in a Ziploc bag and we freeze them and all this stuff and I divide everything up right. And so the last time I bought meat from Kingswood Market was the last week of November. $150 is what I spent $153. Where I live out in Prospect we have Mabel's. Shout out to Mabel's because they're a farm market. Let's go, mabel's. I can buy a cauliflower there for $2.99. The flyer special at no Frills for cauliflower was $4.88. Just this past weekend that I went shopping $2.99 regular price out there. So I've gone and I've spent.
Speaker 3:I buy a lot of my veggies there and I bought enough veggies to make salads every day for the week. Well, five days of the week for suppers, and my wife eats salads every day for lunch and I spent $24, and I had my veggies for the week. Yeah, and I've eaten veggies, salads or something every single day. I am lucky enough that I can go to kingswood drop 153 on that and then each week spend probably less than 100 bucks getting the other things, the yogurts, the whatever right. I honestly no joke. If you average my grocery bill for my family of three my three-year-old and me and my wife, my son doesn't have to feed lunch because he's at daycare, right, but other than that, two meals, I spend on average $100 a week. $100 a week. It's going to grow, it's going to change.
Speaker 1:It's going to change. It's going to change. I know it's going to change. Three scoops of ice cream turns out. Where's the bucket of ice cream? No, no, no, I get that.
Speaker 3:It's going to change what I'm saying is it's going to change, but a lot of people are in the same situation as I am. They're saying I'm spending like $200, $300 a week Same, you can do it. The thing is is it takes more effort and not.
Speaker 1:It takes more effort and not everyone has the ability to go out and go to Gateway Kingswood Market, go to Mabel's. So I guess, matt, the argument there like that was okay. So you're saying basically if you go to these niche markets you can get cheap food.
Speaker 4:But what sucks, though, ultimately is many people don't have that option.
Speaker 3:A lot of people don't even have the $100. That's also true.
Speaker 1:When you're talking, the competitiveness between Walmart, no Frills, Sobeys and Atlantic.
Speaker 3:Superstore you're talking about a variance of maybe $4 or $5 right between your grocery cart in one place or the other.
Speaker 1:When you balance it all out. I love the guy shout out to that Halifax Retails guy.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:He does a cart shop and he compares them every once in a blue moon Every year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love his chicken one. When I opened my studio, he wouldn't give me a shout out because I was a service-based business, but then two weeks later, he gave a shout out to Planet Fitness. Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:To Halifax guy oh wow, can we leave that on there? I mean, I invited him on this show. Actually we like he might come on there. I love his service. Address your hate, rick.
Speaker 2:No, I love his service, but I was hoping he would give me a showdown, because it would have helped well, you're yeah, but now you have this guy absolutely.
Speaker 3:So he knows arnold.
Speaker 2:But if I could, if I could interject, like, a bag of carrots is three meals.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like four bucks. Yep.
Speaker 2:Bag of potatoes is $10, $12,. Three meals Like, if you keep it pretty basic, yeah, like a bag of potato chips that you by yourself would eat in one night is also $4.
Speaker 3:That's true, that's if you're living a vegan diet. No, no, no.
Speaker 2:No, no dollars, that's true, that's if you're living a vegan diet.
Speaker 4:No, no, no like proteins are expensive. Proteins are expensive like I base everything. Proteins my first thing I look for is what's my protein content. You know whether it's fish, whether it's can of tuna. You know I try to aim for about for bait, for main meals, like 30 grams protein, uh, and then like, if I want like a snack, now it's protein bar. Like you know, I hopefully have 10 grams of protein per 100 calories.
Speaker 1:Like your whole mindset changed how many pickled eggs are you allowed to eat before your?
Speaker 4:wife hates you. Good pickled eggs.
Speaker 1:Because that's the game I'm playing right now this January.
Speaker 4:Yeah, she calls. She doesn't hate you when you eat. It Hates you in the next morning, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's right, but like, yeah, junk food is really expensive too.
Speaker 1:And it's gone on Like crazy.
Speaker 2:A bag of Oreos is $6.
Speaker 3:Is that what it is now? Six bucks, is it that much for Oreos now, geez wow.
Speaker 4:Look, I think Newfoundland did it right with that pop tax, like I think honestly like it.
Speaker 1:They have a pop tax.
Speaker 4:They have a pop tax in Newfoundland, yeah.
Speaker 2:So anything sugary? I think I wore a certain percentage of that pineapple crushed, right, yeah? So I'm the personal trainer here. I'm the personal trainer here. I made a, I made a list of goals for 2025. Yeah, the number one goal Nope, no soda. Yeah, no energy drinks. Okay, I said no socks.
Speaker 4:It looks like.
Speaker 2:I wrote no socks. Okay, it's no soda. Define soda Okay, no sodas.
Speaker 1:Define soda Okay, pause. So okay, obviously regular Coke.
Speaker 2:So I will give myself a pass on ginger beer and tonic.
Speaker 1:What about Diet Coke?
Speaker 2:Oh, I love Diet Coke.
Speaker 1:I would rather die than drink a Diet Coke. Okay, why is that? You just don't like the taste of it. I just don't like the taste of it. Okay, I'm a Pepsi guy.
Speaker 2:What about Bubblies? Because I'm a Pepsi guy. Okay, the goal might as well say no Pepsi, no energy drinks.
Speaker 3:Okay, fair enough yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, I am like as much as Derek's talking about food addiction. Like I am addicted, Like I will drink a liter of Pepsi.
Speaker 3:Really.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 3:Wow, wow.
Speaker 2:Okay, and like you know people that will drink like two or three rock stars in a day, like that, oh geez.
Speaker 3:In a day like that, oh geez, yeah, I think that's insane but I would absolutely drink one a day, like okay, absolutely yeah, um only pop.
Speaker 3:I like ginger beer, I do like a real ginger yeah, I do like that yeah but the only actual like pop that I like is root beer yeah, and I don't, and I don't drink it that much. But, like I was saying, I had a root beer, probably the first. For the first time in two months I had it just on the weekend and it's the propeller root beer oh man, is that ever good?
Speaker 4:it is good, yeah, it's the best and I took that.
Speaker 3:I just took a little sip and I was like this is the best.
Speaker 2:But like, as early as I can remember, as early as I can remember, I remember like my stepdad, like getting the pepsi that you like pop the little gasket out of to see if you win a prize points, right, yeah, like like it's like one of my earliest memories from my childhood and like I'm straight up addicted. Anyway, I'm like that bike got you addicted.
Speaker 3:You wanted that bike.
Speaker 1:So are you, are you? Uh, no Pepsi so far this year, yeah, no.
Speaker 2:I started before the new year. I'm like 14 or 15 days in Congratulations, and now it's easy. But now it's easy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but like, literally, until you see Cindy Craw, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not writing here, but like, literally, never in my life have I gone 15 days yeah, wow, that's wild really, yeah, so like you're talking about struggles.
Speaker 2:Like people meet me, they might not think oh, that guy eats healthy this started January.
Speaker 1:It gives you a lot of clarity when you realize you know, like holy smokes, yeah, I did eat a lot of junk food, a lot more than I thought, especially when you stop eating it and you start looking for it and saying, oh, you're not, you're not doing that right now you gotta walk away, and I've been.
Speaker 3:I've been picking at him for like probably a good solid eight months, saying like stop snacking, stop snacking and the segue there was a bottle of pepsi in any setting is like three bucks now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it? If?
Speaker 3:you're lucky yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, crazy.
Speaker 4:Yeah, hawkins, cheezys are going up, I tell you yeah.
Speaker 3:Right, yeah, he's back to the Cheezys.
Speaker 2:Full circle, hawkins, you want to talk about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, hawkins, all right, so I'll tell you what. So Matt and I typically have questions.
Speaker 3:Neither of us.
Speaker 1:Both of us had crazy, crazy business work days so we didn't have time to do our random questions. So we're going to try something different here. I got one.
Speaker 3:And it's a great one.
Speaker 1:No, looking at your phone.
Speaker 3:It's a great one Modest, modest. Everything he does is modest, okay, go ahead. Modest, okay, go ahead, alright. So question number one, rapid fire, great for the topic is what's a great excuse to just eat a whole pizza?
Speaker 2:Oh, he's the guy. Pizza was the vice.
Speaker 4:I worked all day. I'm too tired. Pizza was my kryptonite. I'd probably throw him in front of a bus to get a pizza back in the day.
Speaker 3:Pizza is great.
Speaker 1:I love pizza. I haven't had any yet this year.
Speaker 2:Do you eat a whole pizza? I?
Speaker 1:eat a whole pizza.
Speaker 3:Oh, buddy, what's up?
Speaker 4:We used to get an extra large pizza. Shout out Pizza Time here in Dartmouth Extra large pizza. I'd let my kids go first and wife I feel like, oh, just extra pizza. Where did it all go? Like it must have been the kids, you know what was that I blame my kids, but I, you know, I since apologized to them about everything.
Speaker 2:No, when I met you, I remember you said you said I would get those sliced pizza. I knew it was in there All night. I'd be thinking about it. That's an addiction.
Speaker 3:It's a real addiction 100%.
Speaker 2:My answer would be it's a long day, A long day too lazy to cook.
Speaker 4:And the gym's next door to a pizza place. Maybe the smell.
Speaker 1:Alright, next question what do you do for spare time? What's your favorite leisure activity when you're not working out or eating.
Speaker 4:I'm a huge baseball fan. I'm a big Blue Jay guy. A little frustrating watching this long season.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you're a Jays fan all right, I'm a Jays fan, you know.
Speaker 4:I had the best luck of picking teams. You know Jays and Leafs, Toronto, Toronto One of those kids, I guess, that picked it up when they were good back in the 90s and 80s. But anyway, I'm diehard.
Speaker 2:All right, you man, I love professional wrestling. Okay, unapologetically.
Speaker 3:So what do you think about raw Netflix, raw Netflix.
Speaker 1:Biggest thing, biggest pop culture moment of the last decade.
Speaker 3:I think, oh cool, are they going to do like? Are they going to sell pay-per-views?
Speaker 2:Everything is on Netflix. Everything, so even WrestleMania. You can just watch it for free on.
Speaker 3:Netflix now.
Speaker 4:Wow, it's all on there now. Yeah, amazing your turn.
Speaker 3:Okay, what do you think the worst animal driver would be? If animals could drive, what animal do you think would be the worst driver? That's good Cats. Cats would be bad drivers, is it the gazelle?
Speaker 4:you're chasing after.
Speaker 2:No, it would be a cat for sure, because they're selfish.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but yeah, maybe I'll go with. Hmm, yeah, I'll stick with a cat, I guess. Stick with a little type of cat, I guess my cat's pretty lazy. They're going to nap.
Speaker 2:They'll be sleeping while I drive them? Probably. Yeah, they're too selfish to be good drivers.
Speaker 3:They seem like they wouldn't know how to use a roundabout.
Speaker 4:Are we cats?
Speaker 1:I don't know All right next question what's the meaning of life?
Speaker 4:Just living it, man, being here in the moment, making memories while you can. You only get one life. Take it while you can and you know, hell yeah, bud.
Speaker 3:You only control what you can control, right? I got nothing left, that's all right, whatever.
Speaker 2:I would say making the lives of people around you better.
Speaker 1:The meaning of life is making the lives of people around you better. The manual life is making the lives of people around you better.
Speaker 3:I like that. That's really nice Babe. No, but if you're not making other people's experience better.
Speaker 2:I don't know what you're doing, listen.
Speaker 4:I never thought that a year and a half ago I'd be getting more than just a personal trainer. I've got a brother. Now I've got family with the gym. That's another huge flex of the whole journey too Good things come to good.
Speaker 2:There's a hundred people at that studio that love Derek. Oh, I bet Like love him.
Speaker 3:I mean, you seem like a nice guy. I don't know if you go home and kick puppies or not but, I mean you know.
Speaker 2:I have it on good authority that he doesn't. Okay, all right.
Speaker 1:That's good, all right, your turn, bud my turn.
Speaker 3:All right, favorite style is a beer, oh Porter.
Speaker 2:Oh okay, I love a Porter, that's good.
Speaker 4:I like a good Guinness every now and then like a good thick beer, but I'm mostly a light guy.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Fun fact though Guinness low in calories, yeah it, it's like 160.
Speaker 4:Yeah, can you guys split the G? I'm usually like a Michelob guy because it's 90 calories per can. Guinness wouldn't be too far off from that honestly.
Speaker 3:Okay, everyone thinks, because Guinness is dark it's more.
Speaker 2:but it's actually not. Oh, it's a meal. It's a meal. Yeah, it's just the nitro. I'm going to try to split the G next week, I think, split the center.
Speaker 1:It's a trend, it's a new trend.
Speaker 3:It's a new trend, that Guinness created.
Speaker 2:Brilliant on their part. Okay, interesting, I'm going to try it next week.
Speaker 1:Cool, fun, all right, geez, I had one, then I lost it. Now I've got to find it. Oh man, probably wasn't five, four, okay, sure, uh. What job would you be doing? Uh, if you any dream job tomorrow, you woke up, what would it be? Derrick?
Speaker 2:it came down to radio error or being a chef for me you do have a sexy voice sound good on the radio man, man or the pod deal. People will agree in the comment section.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know I guess radio is a heck of a hard time right now to you know.
Speaker 1:And number two is a singer.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I guess, you know, I guess it could be a singer.
Speaker 1:Like you know, marvin Gaye or some Luther's Antrox, a Yodeling. Eater, a deadly set to spoil your pride, so I, you know what, get into it, derek man. Come on, I'll go with it.
Speaker 2:I'm absolutely doing my dream job now, yeah, but if like Boring.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I know, but if this was taken away from me tomorrow, I'd be a firefighter.
Speaker 2:Firefighter. But if this was taken away from me tomorrow, I'd be a firefighter.
Speaker 1:Firefighter Okay, cool, awesome, yeah. Okay, your turn, dude.
Speaker 3:I think we're almost done.
Speaker 1:Maybe one or two more. Well, that's what we'd be.
Speaker 3:We're on six and seven or something, I'm not counting. Anyway, the superpower. If you could pick one superpower, what would it be? Oh, this is compelling. This is compelling, listening, just dull silence um time travel, time travel.
Speaker 4:I would love to go back and live like the 80s and when we're younger, like if you could go back and do a certain time in your life, just to maybe not even change anything, but just to go back and experience it again, experience again.
Speaker 3:You know you don't want to get into a paradox of change.
Speaker 4:Well, it's crazy, because when you're a kid you think you get all this time in the world, and then you become an adult year and then you're like, holy shit, like this is you know it's so much easier when I was back then you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Keep talking because I don't have any answer.
Speaker 3:It's true Every stage in your life. Sometimes you think it's great, but there's also I think it's a human negative trait where people are like, oh, it's going to be good in six months, it's going to be good in a year, it's going to be good in two years. And one of my favorite quotes of all time from the office is I wish we knew we were in the good old days before we left them. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 4:It's one of my favorite quotes. You see those memes all the time. You see those memes all the time. They'll be shared on social media. This was the last time you and your best friends rode your bikes and you didn't realize it. I get all my feels knife in the chest the last time you picked your kids up and you don't realize I'm a 12 year old, but I still pick up every now and then, just to be sure.
Speaker 3:I know that meme. First time I saw that was years ago and I sent it to all my childhood friends. I was like I miss you guys. It's crazy Over to you.
Speaker 2:Superpower. I think I'd want to be able to read the future Read the future.
Speaker 4:We could do a lot of damage between me and you. I think I just want to be able to tell the future.
Speaker 2:It's my biggest pain point.
Speaker 3:You want the future, you want the past. It's like my biggest pain point. So you want the future, you want the past. All right, there you go.
Speaker 2:My biggest personal pain point is not knowing what the future holds. And yeah, that's an inch a little bit different in a year, but right now I'd say I'd want to know the future.
Speaker 1:My next question I have to ask you first have either one of you had any trauma with fire? But that's a precursor to the question. That's not the question, just a yes or no question, am I?
Speaker 2:going to upset you with the following question.
Speaker 4:No, no, like trauma I never had trauma with house fires, but I used to think of that often, especially when I was like can I be able to move? Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1:Here's my deep thought question. Okay, hit me Both of you guys. House is burning Tonight 12 o'clock. Wonderful question You're just getting home from the Star. Wars movie or whatever's in theaters. You're getting home from Star Wars, You're just getting home from a movie and your house is on fire.
Speaker 4:Your mom, your girlfriend and your cat's inside Girlfriend.
Speaker 1:One, two, three the third. One's not going to's inside Girlfriend. One, two, three the third. One's not going to make it.
Speaker 2:Girlfriend is number one and it's not even a question. And then mom, I guess. And then yeah, fuck the cat. I guess it's pretty easy for me.
Speaker 4:It's a pretty easy decision for me. It'd be girlfriend or wife your first choice. Then I'd grab the cat, but my mom's already dead.
Speaker 3:So I wouldn't Okay. Okay, I love her, but you know Was she?
Speaker 4:cremated. Was she cremated? I don't know she actually. I do have her ashes, so I guess I'd have to make sure I don't grab that.
Speaker 1:It's like a there you go. Wow, yeah, okay then, all right, I think we can go with our last question, last and last. You last the last one. Okay, I'll ask the last question.
Speaker 4:And I'll ask the final one.
Speaker 3:I'm going to ask one that we've asked a few different people, and that's do you believe in ghosts?
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I do yeah.
Speaker 2:Not a chance. Derek's wrong.
Speaker 4:Yeah, not a chance. Derek's wrong. Yeah, it's okay to be wrong.
Speaker 2:He's an idiot, don't listen to him, it's okay to be wrong, but yeah.
Speaker 3:I didn't say you're a ghost real. I said you believe in ghosts.
Speaker 2:Technically you're both right, so I have a bit about this, and that is that new ghost stories stopped happening when the internet became really popular. Just the internet. Yeah, Like ghost stories are a thing that your uncles did around the dining room table playing cards to entertain each other.
Speaker 1:Only your uncles, specifically uncles.
Speaker 2:And now that we're constantly entertained nobody sees ghosts anymore. I think ghosts are nonsense.
Speaker 1:Okay, ghosts are nonsense. What do you think, man you?
Speaker 4:said yes, I'm in on ghosts, you're in on ghosts, yeah, cool, you believe.
Speaker 2:That's awesome.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no wrong answer there. I mean, there is Our last question we ask every guest is this? This is kind of the theme of this year. What's one piece of advice that you were given that you want to take with you and share with others? Just whatever. It could come from any walk of life, from a family or a friend, or just something you read on the Internet.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Piece of advice.
Speaker 4:So after everything with arnold went crazy on twitter and blew up and I was on like every radio show and podcast from here to vancouver. Yeah, I got a tweet one time from a person. He said no matter what you do, don't stop posting, because you don't know who you're going to help. Yeah, wow, and you know. And then it hit me because I'm like, yeah, I was that guy you know that's really good advice, I like that yeah, so that's why I continue to suppose about it today. Oh, yeah. That's awesome.
Speaker 2:So mine is don't take criticism from someone you wouldn't take advice from. Ah, I like that.
Speaker 3:You heard that from me.
Speaker 2:And the B part of that is don't take advice from anyone who doesn't have what you don't want, so don't take financial advice from poor people Don't take marriage advice from divorced people. Yeah, okay, poor people don't take marriage advice from divorced people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that'd be mine. There you go, but you could learn something from a divorced person Fair enough.
Speaker 3:If they don't do, what?
Speaker 1:I did, I just spoke about this two hours ago.
Speaker 4:Don't become a chef.
Speaker 2:I have 150 customers over there. If there's a post about me on Facebook, I can get 120 comments being like oh my God, rick's amazing, rick is fantastic. If one person goes, oh, like that was your experience, say like I went there, I thought he was a bit of a jerk.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That one comment from a person that I wouldn't really want to train with me anymore. I didn't really enjoy having them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah was that the guy that runs Halifax Retailers?
Speaker 2:yeah, but that one negative comment and a sea of positive comments people loving you ruined your whole day oh my god, yeah, that's true, right, it's so funny.
Speaker 3:That's true, it's so funny we look for the negatives.
Speaker 1:Sometimes we see on it he hasn't.
Speaker 4:He hasn't you know what, honestly, I had one, I think when I first when a lazy old man is like always got beautiful eyes one blue east, one blue west, one blue east.
Speaker 3:Because my whole lazy eye thing me too besides that, like you know, it's been all totally gets like that too, when he has enough beers.
Speaker 1:So yeah, so I got a mild lazy eye right, okay so basically, if I take the glasses off, oh yeah yeah, I think we found out very late, man, it takes about four to five beers and then one of the eyes will stop moving. It'll just give up, it just resigns.
Speaker 4:You know what People can make fun of it, though, but you always got somebody watching your back, that's right. You heard that Biggie joke.
Speaker 1:I think I told it on this show before why didn't Noise BIG have the lazy eye?
Speaker 3:To keep wandering around ditty at all times Still holds up. It's different now, yeah, so you said you never really had much negative stuff. Honestly, no, I haven't. That's awesome.
Speaker 4:There's been so much support and I mean I almost expected it.
Speaker 3:Because the internet's horrible sometimes.
Speaker 4:The internet's horrible, I mean. I think the worst I got. People were like oh, you're never going to sustain because it's not a vegan diet.
Speaker 2:Or you're never going to sustain because it's not a vegan diet or you're never going to stay because it's not, you know, okay. Well, vegans are no fun, so right, yeah. But besides that, no, it's been the only time a negative comment really like takes hold is if it's the first comment if there's 10 positive comments. It's real hard to have the balls to yeah jump in with a negative.
Speaker 3:That's true, that's true. But you still the.
Speaker 4:You know they hide behind their no pictures and all that stuff and they're probably, you know, like the size of me, like when I was, you know, but they feel that need to, you know, to get in that little dig and it makes them feel good, I guess, but you, know, I don't know, saying you're not going to maintain yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:I already like, I already felt the rock bottom, like there's nothing you can do to make me good, you know 100 people who like listen to this statement inspired by either one of you. Uh, how do they follow you? How do they find you?
Speaker 4:yeah, yeah, you can find me like. Uh, I'm on like on x, I guess, twitter um chefy bone, chef bones ns is my handle there. Uh, I do a lot more posting on facebook. I open my account as a digital creator so people can follow me along there. So just derrick bona on facebook, I'm on tiktok.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're two are d-r-i-c-k-b-o-n-a.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know, but uh, you can follow me on there and maybe you'll inspire.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I'm on Facebook. I'm on a bunch as well. I'm on Instagram, but I haven't posted on Instagram in months. But, like Facebook, I'm on Facebook almost every day. I'm RickMyTrainer and RickMyTrainercom. Rickmytrainercom that's easy Cool.
Speaker 1:Alright, well, gentlemen, it was awesome meeting you, Thank you so much for coming in and hanging out. Yeah, cheers, cheers, guys.
Speaker 4:Appreciate it and thank you so much to Hardesty Brewing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely, this has been really nice.
Speaker 3:What were we all drinking? We should just look at it before the end. You go through yours here because you had the non-alcohol. Yeah, so I have a non.
Speaker 1:It's very, very chill. It's fantastic. Zero calories, my trainer, zero calories.
Speaker 2:Mine is not zero calories. I guess you should have had that one. I have the Heritage IPA and it's fantastic. I like their entire range of products, sir, and their bar is right across from my studio, so we often, after class, a bunch of us will pop over here quite often I'm having the old Sidney Crosby and Nathan McKinnon beer 8729. 8729.
Speaker 1:It's a bummer, nobody knows this number.
Speaker 4:Two of the goats, I guess. Yeah, two of the goats, for sure, yeah so I had their maple pecan brown ale. Damn, that sounds fancy. It was really good. It's a drink and a dessert. All right guys, Hit the spot Well.
Speaker 1:Really good. Yeah, it's a drink and a dessert. All right, guys Hit the spot. Well, that's it. We're all done, we can go home.
Speaker 2:Thank you very much, fellas. Thank you very much.
Speaker 4:It was awesome to meet you yeah.
