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Afternoon Pint
Jalen Philpot - His football evolution and CFL Journey with the Calgary Stampeders
Having a twin brother that plays in the Canadian Football League (CFL) with you on an opposing team is not an everyday occurrence. Jalen Philpot’s rise as the Calgary Stampeders' Swiss Army knife, from the shadow of a CFL legend father to creating his own path as a versatile offensive weapon.
In this episode we get into some beverages at Station Six and learn some insights into the game, Jalen's upbringing and how this resurgence of Canadian togetherness may result in the biggest year for Canadian football ever.
Everything we uncover about in this episode proves Jalen is a true player of the game, dedicated like no other. We even get into some tough questions like if he thinks himself or his brother Tyson is the best CFL star.
The CFL pre-season starts in May, with Week 1 kicking off in June 5th. Games will be available on TSN and CTV. Follow Jalen's journey as he aims to make this season his breakout year.
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Cheers and welcome to the Afternoon Plane. I'm Mike Tobin.
Speaker 2:I am Matt Conrad who do we have here.
Speaker 3:It's Jalen Philpott, wide receiver for the Calgary Stampeders.
Speaker 2:How's it going, Jalen? Yeah, what's going on? You look a lot like a guest that we've had before.
Speaker 3:Yeah, just seven minutes older. That's it. You guys are twins. We are identical twins.
Speaker 1:Okay wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:Anyone who remembers we had Tyson on last year almost around this time? Yeah, I think so it was pretty close, yeah, it was. And yeah, we tried to connect with you and you were coming and going stuff like that a little bit, but we finally got you on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm excited, in case we missed the Tyson episode like. So who are you?
Speaker 3:What do you do for a living? I am Jalen Felfaugh, obviously Tyson's twin. I play wide receiver for the calgary stampeters.
Speaker 2:Uh also play in the canadian football league, so amazing. Yeah, yeah, it's uh, and recently just signed I did.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I resigned with calgary for another two years so I wasn't sure I couldn't remember, yeah, I signed through 2026 now so excited about that that's pretty exciting. Yeah, it is yeah I've been in calgary for, I want to say, seven years now. I even catch myself telling people I'm from calgary. Oh, yeah, so uh I'm adopting it. You know vancouver guy, so some people think it's funny that I adopt calgary over vancouver just because everyone loves bc.
Speaker 1:But I love alberta calgary awesome, I love calgary too. What do you love the most about calgary?
Speaker 3:uh, I mean the people there, they're super cool. You know, I feel like vancouver has that kind of hipster. Uh, I want to be cooler than you kind of vibe sometimes and uh, you know, having lived there, nobody's extra cooler than anyone else?
Speaker 1:cowboy, yeah, it is super more cowboy and uh, no traffic.
Speaker 3:I think that's the biggest thing no traffic, yeah, okay, yeah, I don't know if I had that same experience there's parts with traffic there.
Speaker 1:But like for the, I guess by and large the right to the c train there oh yeah, it's is.
Speaker 3:It's a very well.
Speaker 1:thought of city. They engineered it well yeah. And then the suburbs are weird too. They're all like the same suburb.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they all look the same. Exactly.
Speaker 1:You could drop Matt in like one Calgary suburb and not know which suburb you're in Like you would think is this Okotoks or is this some other place, some other place, and a lot of them look very similar.
Speaker 2:I mean, those are things you can do with cities that are like kind of on open land, that you can do quadrants and then you can just build like circles because that's what they did in calgary. They built older circles and then, when the city gets bigger, they build another high when it goes around.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the ring road, we call it. Yeah, right, yeah, it's almost like a dartboard. Yeah, it legit does it's so efficient. Though I'm not gonna lie, no, that's true. Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2:You know when you don't, when you don't have.
Speaker 3:Like you know all, your brother plays in montreal that's an island so there's lots of traffic there exactly like they have like three bridges and that's it and one of them might collapse at any moment. Exactly, it drives me crazy whenever, especially when I go back to vancouver too, and I'm just it takes me an hour to get somewhere that should only take me 10 minutes and it's just like I know I left this city for sure.
Speaker 1:So shout out if you're listening to Vancouver.
Speaker 2:Sorry about that, but you know, I get it, though, because you've been playing now in Calgary for a while. Yeah, because that's where you went to university. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, exactly Went to university in 2018 there and obviously got drafted by Calgary four years ago now, so 2021 or 2022, actually. So, yeah, it's just a city's definitely adopted me too, so it's super nice. They love the dinos there, calgary dinos, that's where I went, so and obviously, like you guys talked about, with my brother, we won a national championship, so that's right, thank you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I haven't done that. You know they try to do it for 30 years and I think we'd been in the vanier six or seven times, uh, in that 30 year span and just couldn't get it done. You know, laval had our number for a couple years they had everybody's number for 20 years.
Speaker 2:Very true, still do they, still do they're still the dominant that they are.
Speaker 3:But uh yeah, and we finally got it done and we're able to beat montreal. So that was big for the city and just big for the program as well yeah, that was.
Speaker 2:That was cool. It must be also extra special, obviously, to win with your brother too yeah, 100.
Speaker 3:You know, we've definitely kind of gone back and forth with each other for mvps and awards and stuff like that, so it was cool to finally do a national championship level uh trophy.
Speaker 2:But you also had a really good game too, like for the van gang, because he scored a touchdown and he had over 100 yards.
Speaker 3:Like yeah, yeah, it was a huge game for me. I mean, that year kind of was a proving year for me. It's funny With Tyson and I, like I said, it's one or the other. So in high school we were always back and forth. He'd win MVP and I'd get like best running back, and then following year I'd win MVP and he'd get best receiver.
Speaker 1:What's it really like, though? Is there animosity? There, I'd be aggressively competitive. If my twin brother was in the same league as me, I'd be wanting to crack a skull.
Speaker 3:It's definitely very competitive. There's lots of chirping going on when we're in the car after the games and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:So yeah, just bringing us back to that Vanier year, tyson unfortunately got injured at training camp I think he broke a metatarsal on his foot but the previous year before that he'd won rookie of the year and had a very dominant season and I had a decent year as a rookie. But obviously I wasn't able to win rookie of the year like he won. So I kind of had a chip on my shoulder for that year and obviously, knowing that he was going to be out for a little bit, I was like all right, let me take it on myself to prove myself and show my worth. And yeah, I was a first team all canadian that year as well and I think I led the league or top three.
Speaker 2:I think I led the top three in the league for like average yards per game and stuff so really good year for me, for sure so going back when you were talking about, like in high school, so then you were talking about you were at a running back, yeah, yeah, so I didn't know that you're running back in high school. Yeah, so, but what I did notice yeah, this is starting to make a lot of sense, because 20 of your yards are running, are rushing yards.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, they are, yeah, yeah. So it still happens in the cfl you know they still take advantage of that uh I mean, I uh, it's crazy, it's funny story how I switched from running back to receiver. So my dad uh was running back.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was running back he played in the cfl, was very uh fortunate to have some good years there and uh. So I definitely took after him uh growing up. You know I wanted to be like him all my game after him. Uh, his nickname was quick six so he liked to score touchdowns fast. Essentially that's why he got that nickname. So, yeah, just trying to be like him, and uh played running back uh up until, obviously, university. I also played running back uh for team canada and stuff like that. So I mean they uh kind of got offered to play running back and I also got off to play db a little bit but, I knew I wanted to play offense.
Speaker 3:So it was kind of like, hey, do you want to play running back or do you want to play receiver? And uh, I just remember watching practice and watching tyson score so many times in practice versus as a running back. Linebackers and D-line they like to tag off on you and tell you like hey, you're tackled. And that just really got to me. Tyson was dominantly scoring. You know, as a receiver, if you catch a 70-yard touchdown on someone, they can't say anything about that. So something about that intrigued me a little bit.
Speaker 3:So I was like, let me go play wide receiver and test that out a little bit. So when did you switch?
Speaker 2:So first year at university. It was first year. Oh, it was first year. So you came right out and just went for it, yeah, right away.
Speaker 3:Just went straight to wide receiver and definitely had some learning curves for sure. You know, tracking the ball downfield was different for me. Obviously, I got the ball handed off to me right away.
Speaker 2:So just having that ball right away was such a nice feeling. So, uh, I had to work on catching a little bit and work with tyson a little bit, but uh, he was pretty good at that. So it's easy, teacher. Yeah, that's, it's really good. Yeah, because it's you, you, you often see running backs be like the check down guys. Yeah, you don't see it often that the receiver is a running back you see it sometimes, yeah, not too much.
Speaker 2:So I but I just noticed that, especially your cfo career, it's been yeah yeah, they definitely have sprinkled in uh, some running plays here and there.
Speaker 3:I think I've averaged 100 yards per year. I think my uh carry average is around seven or eight yards. So pretty, pretty efficient for sure. And again, when I get in that backfield and I take handoffs I just feel like a natural running back again. You know, I played it for a while, so super comfortable and I'm excited. This year they've kind of mentioned that we're really going to get into it and, uh, have me some design plays and stuff like that kind of like a debo samuel uh effect kind of with the 49ers. So I'm super, super excited just to be involved that way and just any way I can touch the ball and make some plays so yeah, depot samuel's probably a better way to now I was.
Speaker 2:I'm a patriots fan he doesn't be patriots for a long time but, he stayed there and I really appreciated him, was corduroy paterson, and that's kind of what I was seeing you as, because you were doing some you'd also do, like returns and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, cordo paterson, man, he's army knife, yeah, he is and I mean that's funny that you say that, because that's what they call me in Calgary.
Speaker 2:No, there you go.
Speaker 3:Any of the interviews they'll be like yeah, that's our Swiss Army knife. So I mean I did special teams and stuff like that too. My first year led the league and kickoff return average yards too. So just been kind of one of those guys where I just want to make plays whenever the ball gets in my hand.
Speaker 2:Just a natural football player. Exactly Whatever, bill belichick would love you, I'd love to have bill belichick. It's all about just playing football, right? Yeah, you must be, like you know, a pretty freak athlete because if you're sitting there playing receiver, running back and db we talked about this with your brother about how dbs are generally the most athletic 100 they are, yeah, they definitely are.
Speaker 3:I just feel like I gotta give a lot of uh obviously to my dad and just I mean my football IQ. I just love the game of football. You know, I can sit down and talk about it, decipher defenses, coverages, stuff like that. That's why I always feel like there's a coaching is going to come in later on in my career, just because it's just a game of football. It's just super If you dive into it. There's a lot of intricacies and it's almost like a chess match back and forth with coordinators. So I just find it so cool, so I mean uh, to be still playing and to be able to look into kind of that depth. I think it's helps out my game for sure oh, 100, I hope you get into coaching.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'd love to start coaching. I mean I never played at your level, but you know, I I played up until about two, three years ago. 100 and, uh, you know, played and I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 3:But I'd like to eventually get into coach my son when he's three, but yeah, I'd like to get into coaching when he can start playing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, it's, it's so cool and it's also like a full circle moment for me, obviously, with the stamps, getting to do all these kind of uh kids camps and all that kind of stuff, because obviously I'm a canadian, I was born in canada, so I grew up on the cfl and doing all those little camps and stuff, with the cfl players coming and, uh, just watching us run around and do that kind of stuff. I was always that kid that was like I'm gonna be playing in this league beside you. You might not know it yet, but I'm gonna do it. So it's so cool for me to be able to go to those camps and look for those kind of kids, you know the ones that are challenging me and, hey, I'm better than you, you see that a lot.
Speaker 3:I do see it a lot and it's kind of interesting because I'm like okay, I'm going to follow you on Instagram because I feel like you do have some talent and I'm interested to see your career, especially as a Canadian. I think it's super cool.
Speaker 2:Heck. Yes, I love that. I think it. In the times we're in, we want to pump up Canada 100% oh yeah, exactly, it's good here to pump up Canada man. That being said, man, can we just go to four downs? Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3:I agree with you. I think anyone who's played football agrees to this.
Speaker 2:Why can't we just do it?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think four downs. You know, you keep the rules the same, you keep the field the same, you just add just adds an extra excitement to the game.
Speaker 1:I know, uh, defensive coordinators don't want that. You know there's already so much passing and so many offenses. I'm going to jump in just for a few seconds. Yeah, now, this is uh, this is for people that you know, say, okay, I watched the nfl for years. Right, this year I'm going to watch cfl. Okay, okay, yeah, when does it start?
Speaker 3:it starts in june starts in june season starts in june. About mid-june they're a summer league summer league.
Speaker 1:Okay, and what?
Speaker 3:does it end? It ends, uh, november. I think the great cups around november 20th this year.
Speaker 1:So where do you watch the games?
Speaker 3:well, indoor stadiums, bc or sorry. On television we got it on tsn, uh right, I think they've recently reached out to Sportsnet. There was another, or maybe it was CTV. I think I want to say it was CTV. They were covering some of the games, more of the East Coast games. So for the people of Nova Scotia, ottawa had a lot of the games. I know Montreal did as well. But yeah, tsn and CTV, I think those are the two main places right now to find all the games.
Speaker 2:And how do we make it four downs?
Speaker 3:well, there actually is no commissioner right now. So I think if there was a chance, yeah, yeah, he just resigned, yeah, and I know the season uh schedule got delayed just because they've been trying to find a commissioner and somebody to kind of prove all the stuff, so all right, I'll do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly go get to that and my last newbie question why should people watch the CFL instead of the NFL?
Speaker 3:I mean, I think just about our point too, just growing the Canadian game. You know, it's funny that a lot of people don't know that the CFL was around before the NFL.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's an older game. Yeah, it was, it was founded before we actually taught the Americans football.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what? Seriously, it's sport. I want to see that heritage moment. So what happened was in case you don't know the history, but it was rugby was brought to north america and then basically what happened was the mostly canada, because we were in canada first.
Speaker 2:I mean, people were playing rugby and the rules started to modify a little bit in canada versus and stayed this kind of the same because they have gaelic football over in in ireland and the uk and stuff right, and the rules started to kind of the same because they have gaelic football over in in ireland and the uk and stuff right, and the rules started to kind of change. And then it was taught, like you know, spread down to the new england states and all that stuff, and they started to make their own rules. The thing that people don't realize is that the rules it's not like canada ripped off the united states or united states ripped off canada the rules actually were, because this is 100 years ago. You know what, there's no internet they were created separately. They were actually at the exact same parallel times, kind of modifying and evolving the sport at the exact same time. What year-ish was that Like?
Speaker 1:1900s, 1800s what?
Speaker 2:The Grey Cup's been going around for. Oh, maybe hold on.
Speaker 3:How old are they? Early 1900s, it's like 1904. Okay, so it was early. It's like 1904. Yeah, okay, so it was early. It's real early. Wow, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, we're over 100 Grey Cups now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like 117 Grey Cups yeah.
Speaker 3:And I don't know if the Super Bowl is at 100 yet. And I'm almost done no, Super Bowl is not Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:their first year was 67.
Speaker 3:yeah, okay but, before that they had the nfl right right before, and they had the afl afl champion, nfl afl joined, become the nf like the nfl, I do remember.
Speaker 1:Yeah so, yeah so. And the football? Why is it still bigger?
Speaker 3:yeah, I, so I think I don't quote me on this. I think there was like 2018. They made a little bit of a change to the cfl ball, so I think it's similar. I think it's a little fatter still, but uh, they like the lengthwise and stuff is the exact same and the. Also a difference on it is the NFL ball doesn't have like a white spiral on the tip of it right versus CFL does. It does make a big difference going down the states trying to catch some of those NFL footballs. It's a lot harder to track without that white spiral on it.
Speaker 1:I was really sorry, man. You can tell I don't watch a lot of sports. I'm trying, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So that's my sports sessions for dummies, ladies, and gentlemen.
Speaker 2:No, that's exactly what we need, because there's probably people who are going to listen to this and be like I don't know anything about football. Yeah, well, like.
Speaker 1:I want to invest in Canadian sports.
Speaker 2:And I think, like you know, I watch the Super Bowl every year. Right, Everyone does. Yeah, Super Bowl parties. The Grey Cup had, in my opinion, a better act. Oh.
Speaker 3:I know you're, he's a Kendrick guy. He's a Kendrick guy, no, no.
Speaker 2:They had Green Day.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, so Green Day is pretty awesome. Green Day is pretty awesome. Tyson's year yeah, they had Green Day awesome.
Speaker 1:They're both awesome artists in their own right. I don't even want to say nothing bad about either one of them. Kendrick Lamar, though, I think is.
Speaker 2:No, I think it was a great show. That was a cultural moment. I thought it was the coolest thing I've ever seen. Well, you and I both agree that I'm not even a big Kendrick fan.
Speaker 1:I was blown away. I felt like I went to a great job and you know what?
Speaker 2:I actually liked how he went kind of a little bit back to basics. It wasn't extravagant. Katy Perry rode a dinosaur. The weekend ran through.
Speaker 1:You don't need to do anything when you have Samuel L Jackson with you. It's very good, that's true. He just made it so much better, but some of the best shows to me were Tom Petty and Prince.
Speaker 2:I think is honestly the standard for me, right yeah.
Speaker 1:Prince. Prince was one of the best. It was 100% and he didn't do anything crazy. I'm too young to remember Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2:I never saw Michael Jackson? I saw it, but he was the original. Like later. Michael Jackson. Mj was the original of the stars, because before that they used to just have like the oklahoma band yeah, yeah, you might get the odd person to come out and sing or whatever, but it was like michael jackson was a mega star and he decided to do the halftime show and like from that point on it was like everybody wants to do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly like you got so ridiculous at one time.
Speaker 3:There was like years where there's like nine stars like the year like, well, you know, like the janet Jackson, everybody knows about that year, but like she was there, jt was there, kid Rock was there, diddy was there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a minor.
Speaker 1:But like man, like they like. It's a crazy history, right.
Speaker 2:And they don't get paid for it. Yeah, they don't get paid for it, but their sales go nuts. No, I know the next day that's just trade-off, I think, kendrick.
Speaker 1:Lamar's sales were at 421% the next day?
Speaker 2:No, they get paid, it's just not from the NFL. Yeah, it's true, very true, that guy's having a crazy year right.
Speaker 3:Poor. Drake, I mean I want to support him Speaking of Canadian being a Canadian, but it's just like ah, he had a bad week.
Speaker 2:The Grammys happened and then the Super.
Speaker 1:Bowl happened.
Speaker 3:True enough.
Speaker 1:That was a rough week. I'm a Drake fan.
Speaker 3:It's a tough year for us, but he'll bounce back. I hope so.
Speaker 1:I just heard that new album, though Maybe he'll come back with another album I'm hoping to.
Speaker 3:It wasn't the one we were looking for, that's for sure. No, it wasn't oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:Sorry to go way off track.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is what it is. That's kind of. That's kind of part of the show, the tangent a little bit so yeah, I mean, I agree People need to watch CFL more supported.
Speaker 3:I mean we lost touchdown Atlantic last year, two years in a row, and I think they're a huge success. I actually covered it two years years.
Speaker 2:I wrote articles for it, two years in a row, that's cool and uh, I was excited to do for a third and why did we lose it? Because it was, it seemed to be selling okay, you know what it makes no sense. So, uh, what's his?
Speaker 3:name. I heard something about toronto oh yeah, so what I? Heard is that toronto always played in it out here and so their ticket sales for home games last year went up. So they always had to give, basically like take away a home game to come play in it. So their ticket sales went up. So they were like hey, like we don't want to come to Nova Scotia, we want to stay and play a home game. Makes sense, so that's one of the reasons why I mean we're in Calgary.
Speaker 2:We're why I mean we're in calgary, we're like we'll go like, but they don't want to pay for our travel from calgary to nova scotia.
Speaker 1:I guess it can't be that bad, but I mean, yeah, we always want it like a whole bunch of rabid new fans.
Speaker 2:I think next year you bring it back and it's calgary versus montreal. That would be so awesome, and the maritimes they do have a real deep connection do they talk well from labor, right, you know, because I mean you know so many Newfoundlanders.
Speaker 1:Nova Scotians go over there to work. A lot of great relationships.
Speaker 2:Oh, there's yeah, there's tons of Maritimers in Calgary Decades.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean I've always said that I'd volunteer. Once Nova Scotia got a CFL team, I would sign up easily no-transcript doesn't really understand super different the rouge is different.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so there's one point you can kick. You can either miss the field goal or punt the ball through the back of the end zone and you get one point. So there's been a lot of controversy over that because, uh, team, I think it was toronto versus saskatchewan this year, I can't remember exactly but basically toronto didn't even need to make the field goal, they just had to kick it very far, so that just went through the end zone.
Speaker 2:So right they're gonna say like it's, so it's no skill exactly no skill, just miss the field goal and just win by one point basically as long as you kick it and it goes through the end zone, because if you kick it far enough and someone can return it. That's why when you see any field goal in the CFL, someone's standing in the end zone, waiting for the ball to drop so they can at least run it out and then there's no point. But if you can kick it past, through.
Speaker 3:It's a point and you can't return it. Yeah, there's nothing you can do. So I think I told your brother in the podcast I actually lost a football game that was rainy and and we lost one nothing. Oh, no way. Uh, yeah. So there's guys like you who would love to see that rule gone. I'm sure like, yes, yeah, I know it's, it's, it's a funny way to win, but I mean, it's part of the rule, so you got to use it as your advantage. So I can't say I've ever lost by that.
Speaker 3:I know tyson had a very controversial game. I want to say it was his rookie year and same kind of thing. They were tied going into it and I think it was against winnipeg and they went to kick the game-winning field goal and they missed. So he was in the back of the end zone and he caught in the back and basically had to juke out four or five guys just to get out of the end zone and everyone was talking about like how that's the play of the game, like doesn't matter about what happened in the rest of the game, like if he doesn't do that, they don't win. So it is pretty crazy how it can come down to that. So yeah.
Speaker 2:So yeah, you were saying about other rules. I mean, the field's different. Yeah, it is wider, bigger, longer. Uh, the end zone. This is another thing. I would actually change goal post. Gotta be back back the end zone.
Speaker 3:I know, yeah, it's in, it's in the way, exactly. Yeah, I'm sure if you're trying to run up the middle and that's in the middle, or?
Speaker 2:if you're trying to receive anything, it's like it's in the way of so we had like that.
Speaker 1:So what are we doing? Better, uh, what we're doing.
Speaker 2:Those are some of the things we do like uh what we're doing better is, I think, actually with the receivers being able to start running. Yeah, wagg, yeah, it's way better versus like you have to be stopped. I mean, if you're the wideouts in the NFL, you have to have two wideouts on the line.
Speaker 2:They can't move, they have to be rested. So they're dead, stop and they have to go. Now anyone it's hard to get into, I guess technical formation or whatever, but basically there's also receivers. You can have one or two receivers that are not on the line that can move around all they want, but it's only those ones who can move around all they want. Versus the CFL, the line is just there.
Speaker 3:It's just the alignment, and then they can just go.
Speaker 3:So it's a lot more, I'd say, confusing for defensive players. Obviously, you've got guys moving from side to side and trying to watch that. But when you say, what are we doing better? Uh, technically, like stat wise, uh, canadian football is a more fun, explosive game, like our offensive numbers are. We have higher passing yards, higher, I want to. I don't know about rushing yards, but I know passing yards for sure. I know, like our touchdowns and stuff like that, like points per game, is way higher in the cfl and they.
Speaker 3:One of the reasons why they don't want to remove uh three downs to four is because, uh, special teams are supposed to be like like something that you can win the game on, basically, and cfl, like nfl, they've changed the kickoff return and stuff. So there's not really anything exciting going on with special teams. But with cfl they want, like they want you to return. So like returners, uh have a five yard halo when they're receiving the ball, so that they have to run the ball. You can't just fair catch it and not run. So they're really trying to enforce. That's why that rouge rule is there too. You can run it out. They just really want to try to make it a part of the game for sure the nfl has essentially like ruined special teams they have yeah they have ruined a lot of the things.
Speaker 2:They've taken a lot of the things away. I think of a guy going back Patriots fan, a guy like Matt Slater, who was like a decade long like pro bowler, one of the best special teams guys you'd ever see. We won't see guys like him. No, you won't.
Speaker 3:You won't at all you won't unless you're playing and watching cfl football. That's the only time. Yeah, that's the only time those are your performers.
Speaker 1:Like those are the funnest people to watch, sometimes like well special teams yes and no.
Speaker 2:I mean special teams, the. The highlights that people see in special teams is, like you know, a guy just returned 105 yards touchdown right and everyone, and he just missed. He missed the whole thing yeah, exactly, yeah, that's super exciting, yeah cool. We're never. This is a good time to announce of the the new afternoon pint special teams t-shirts that we're going to be putting out there you go okay, yeah, I think that would be awesome, that would be yeah, guys, it's red.
Speaker 1:It's only 30 and you can find it on our website.
Speaker 2:Yeah there you go. It's red like the cow.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly, red like cow, I'll take. One I'll take one.
Speaker 2:So the with football, obviously we got from your dad kind of going, I guess, back to you know, back when you were kids and everything.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You got it from your dad, but were both you and your brother like instantly, like yeah, we want to play football.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, I definitely have memory of football from day one. You know I remember playing football in my house, tackling my brother, like we were just constantly going at it. But obviously my dad, he was just always involved with it. You know he played for a while but ever since I can remember he was either my coach or coaching other people. So I spent a lot of afternoons on the football field. You know he coached junior football in BC, so that's like 17, 18, 19 year olds, I think it even goes up to 23 year olds. So I was basically watching semi-pro and was surrounded by guys who were semi-pro and wanting to go to the higher level. So I just kind of always found that was super cool and always, always trying to show the guys like, hey, I can do this, I can do that. So I think from a young age there was just that kind of determination. I mean, and if you ask tyson too, we always used to hear like do you know who your dad is, do you know?
Speaker 2:what he did, those kind of things.
Speaker 3:So we would always respond like do you know who we are? Do you know what?
Speaker 2:we're gonna do kind of thing, so that's awesome yeah.
Speaker 3:So we we always had that chip on our shoulder and we felt like, okay, if he was this great, we're gonna be better. So I think that really helped with our motivation to play.
Speaker 2:So who influenced you when you were younger Outside of your dad, obviously, Outside of my dad. You know you're watching. You're watching guys, you're growing up, you're seeing like who influenced your style of play, or anything like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was a big Pittsburgh Steelers fan. That's my team still to this day. It's funny, the colors that I wore as a six and seven year old were Pittsburgh Steelers colors, so I want to say that influenced me. But I was a big Rashad Mendinghall fan. You got to be like a diehard Steelers fan to kind of remember that name or a football fan for a while. But he was really explosive. He was fast Like he kind of had all the traits and I think he was one of those early running backs to catch the ball out of the backfield as well. Yeah, I actually didn't know. My dad had good hands, but I've seen some tape from him and he had some pretty good hands, so I guess that's where it came from. But yeah, just that receiving kind of and fast running back, I'd say he from early age for sure. Uh, it's definitely transitioned to receivers now. Yep, uh, model my game after justin jefferson.
Speaker 3:Okay, obviously we talk about debo samuel guys like that kind of just do everything, uh, super influential to their team. You know, just kind of plug me in coach and I'll do whatever I got to do. So it's those are guys that I really look up to for sure yeah, yeah, jeff jefferson's.
Speaker 3:Yeah, another freak athlete yeah, he's a stud and there's that receiver show on netflix, so it's really cool. Yeah, they kind of got to pick his brain and see what he does on a day-to-day basis when he's not around football, and I think we're just super similar off the field too, so just he's an overall super cool guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So yeah, steelers, what do you think of that stuff? Right?
Speaker 3:now yeah.
Speaker 2:Do you think it's time to move on from Tomlin?
Speaker 3:I feel like that is a conversation that needs to be had for sure. I mean, was it 18 or 19, or 18 in a row, I think, where he's plus 500. So they've been even you know he's winning?
Speaker 2:yeah, he's winning, but obviously we're not winning those matters, those exactly that's.
Speaker 3:That's the unfortunate thing. We've been the kings of regular season, dominant uh, going into the playoffs with two wins and then not making it past first round. So I want to give him one more year. You know, there's some uh rumors stuff going on right now with our quarterback situation. Obviously I don't think we're bringing russ back, doesn't seem that way I think fields. You know, if we get rid of russ, it'd be smart to bring him back. But I mean, there's been rumors that we're leaning towards aaron rogers right now so I've heard yeah, so we'll see.
Speaker 3:You know, I I'm a fan of aaron rogers. He's, he was a stud at one point, so I think it'll be interesting. You know, I think that is a guy, though, that we could bring in and potentially, you know, make a run for a championship. You know, I feel like we're not in the time to develop a guy. I think we're ready to just bring a guy in, and we have the team. Obviously we went 12 and three, so our defense is solid yeah, no, defense is fantastic, yeah, so let's go for a championship.
Speaker 3:So I'm interested to see uh what happens here in the next year or two, but I think that uh mike tommy might be on the chopping block coming up soon, though not gonna surprise me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, yeah, king of, I mean he did win like he does?
Speaker 3:he won early in his year. He did?
Speaker 2:he did win a championship, but ever since then I I wonder, often wonder if it's because of the player coach mentality. Fair enough of like. He's just too like. Player coach is kind of a term for someone like a coach that just can't be firm, he's like catering to the players and all it's really relaxed.
Speaker 3:Players coach, players coach kind of thing right.
Speaker 2:So it's like, yeah, he might be that I mean the players will play for you. They definitely will. Yeah, they show up, they win, they have winning seasons. He's he's right now I believe he's the longest like most consecutive coach for plus 500 team plus 500 wins, winning seasons?
Speaker 3:yeah, he definitely is. Yeah, but I know it's one of those things we'll see, but I I feel like, uh, he's won the championships already, so that's why I'm not mad at it. You know, if we, but it is unfortunate that we I think steelers he's the third or fourth head coach in franchise so it's huge, it's like. If you look at all the other, like oakland for instance, I think they had eight new coaches in the last two years or something like that. So we're one of those storied franchises, so it is bittersweet.
Speaker 2:That is a huge accomplishment. It is Like when you think about a franchise that has been around for I don't even know what it is like 60 years.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:And they've had three head coaches.
Speaker 3:It's huge, right, that is huge. So I mean good culture For sure, good football culture yeah it is and I know it's kind of crazy too one of the stories. So my first year, obviously, I got injured towards the end of the season in the CFL and the first team that called me up for NFL workout was the Pittsburgh Steelers. So it was unfortunate because I was hurt.
Speaker 3:So, it was. But Tyson got to go and do the camp. He did, yeah, he got to go do the camp for me. So super cool and he brought me a cool little uh memorabilia. So felt, felt that could have showed up with with with just your name I know he could have easily. Yeah, exactly, I know they think that you were amazing oh yeah, because they knew you got hurt.
Speaker 2:And then this guy out there just doing, just back, yeah, yeah that's so true.
Speaker 3:I should have done that honestly. And that's one of the questions I always get to is do you and tyson pretend to be each other, right? In high school, people used to ask us that too, and it's like no, I don't want to pretend to be tyson, like that's fair. You know, we're our own person. I think that's definitely grown now, with us playing on separate teams. That was one of the big things. Uh, even when we were getting drafted, teams would ask us like hey, you guys gonna be okay playing apart from each other, like you've played together for your whole life.
Speaker 3:We're like yes, we, we want to play apart from each other like we're ready to make our own paths and stuff, so that probably happens a lot with twins, yeah, you just get grouped as one person, exactly 100, I don't think. Uh, there was a time where I'd get asked hey, where's Tyson? When I walk into a room alone, it's like I don't know where Tyson is. Go ask him, kind of thing.
Speaker 2:Twin intuition, just saying, but.
Speaker 3:I definitely think there's pros and cons to that, though, too, because I was never bored.
Speaker 2:That's one thing as a kid never bored.
Speaker 3:I always had someone to pick on or get under his skin or do something.
Speaker 2:Or if we're outside playing basketball, we're playing together, so I think there is some pros and cons to it and I'm definitely grateful for it, for sure. So moving, uh, from university to cfl, like what was the biggest like we asked this tyson too what was the hardest transition for you, like the biggest shock of like, oh shit I think it was a commitment level.
Speaker 3:You know they uh, you obviously you're in university, right, so you're taking university uh style courses and uh hard classes and stuff, but then they're expecting you to be this. You know where we had full ride. So we were expected to be these all-star football players but it was like hold on, like trying to learn how to do math and and all these university courses, and then we got 8 am workouts where class starts at 10 am. So you're banging out your workout for an hour and a half and then straight from that year to class and then you're expected to go straight to the stadium after that because your first meeting starts at three o'clock. So hopefully you line your schedule up where you could maybe go home and have a snack or something.
Speaker 3:I know there's some days for me where it was straight to the stadium after uh school and then you're in your first meeting for an hour and then you go to your after that it's special teams and then you go to offensive meeting and then you might have like a short 30 minute team meeting and then we're on the field, which is around six o'clock and six to eight you're practicing and then you got another meeting after that.
Speaker 3:So we're getting out of the stadium at around 9, 9, 30 and then it's like, oh, we're supposed to go home and study, like I'm tired, I'm hungry, right. So that was definitely, I think, the biggest shell shock to me was okay, I got to be committed and no one's gonna hold my hand. You know, like we, we have I know guys who just couldn't handle it. You know just too much on their plate and they decided either hey, I just want to focus on school or I want to focus on something outside of football. So I felt like that was one of the biggest thing. You know the commitment level, but you definitely find that if you want it bad enough, you'll find a love for it. And I definitely felt like I did and I just got a good schedule and got lots of peers that were able to help me, and university of calgary was awesome with that, with tutors and just little, little stuff like that, just to make sure your grades and everything's on point and you're eligible to play.
Speaker 2:So it's probably. Then you get drafted, yeah, and you get to stay in the same city.
Speaker 3:You don't have to move. No, that was super. That's probably awesome. That was super cool.
Speaker 2:So then going to the cfl, like what, like. What was the biggest shock for that like? Yeah you know, moving from university to cfl yeah.
Speaker 3:So I'd say it's the opposite. It's the free time you know in the cfl.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like, uh, we have rules where you can only be at the stadium like they can. Only team can only keep you at the stadium, for I think it's four or four and a half hours. Cva yeah, it's part of our players agreement so you can't be there for longer than four hours. So it's like, okay, I show up, I do my meetings uh 8 am as well, we're on the field at 10 and you're out. You're out of there by two o'clock, like, and obviously I'll stick around and do some stuff on my own and hot tub, cold tub, that kind of stuff, but other than that they can't physically keep you there. So it's like, okay, what do I do for the rest of my time? It's two o'clock and I got nothing to do kind of thing. So I feel like delegating. That has been one of the biggest things you know, just trying to improve my investments outside of football and also just making sure my body is right and everything's healthy. And it's a long season. I'd say that's also another thing too, true yeah, it's.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it is a long season coming from u sports college, you play eight games in a regular season and then, if you're lucky, you'll play another four in playoffs and that's the national championship. That's the thing, yeah, other than that, uh, you're getting lucky with eight or nine games a season and then in the cfl it's 18 games. So, yeah, but it's 18 games, but it's 20 weeks. Yeah, it's 20 weeks. We got three bi-weeks in there. So that was one of the bigger things. My first year. I was like holy, we're at week 10 and we're not even halfway through the season. That's, that's the thing, that kind of. They say in the cfl. The season doesn't start until Labor Day, which is September, so it's like the first two or three months don't count. What does that mean?
Speaker 1:So yeah, I didn't understand that Chance if you have all losses.
Speaker 3:Exactly, exactly, so that was the one thing A lot of the players were like, okay, you got to make sure that you keep yourself ready, because these first eight games do not matter at all. And so I'd say it was pretty big. And so I'd say I was pretty big, just like, OK, I don't know how to play, but not make sure I'm not getting injured was one of those things. But but then you did get injured, yeah, and you missed a whole year. Yeah, I did. Yeah, never, never, never dealt with anything like that before it was offseason injury. I got through my first year pretty unscathed a couple of bangs and bruises here but here and there. But yeah, just offseason training was around this time two years ago. I just was on the field and not doing anything. I've never I don't usually, do you know just made a plant and something didn't feel right.
Speaker 3:I kind of just felt like that feeling when your leg falls asleep, just tingly and nummy kind of thing, and I was just like I've never felt like felt that before, so something going on and kind of a week went by and I was getting some treatment. Didn't feel right at all, but it was getting better for sure. Like I started getting movement back in my leg and stuff like that. Versus I didn't really have very much movement the first couple of days and when I saw I was first I saw an x-ray guy and he basically was like OK, we're gonna take some pictures of your and then we'll give you a call back, maybe a schedule, mri or something. And he didn't even end up calling me back.
Speaker 3:It was the MRI office calling me and they're like hey, so I heard your surgery is scheduled for a couple days here. We need to get you in for a picture. And I was like surgery, like I'm not even sure what you guys are talking about, kind of thing, and just thought it was maybe, uh, just a trick to get me in for imaging early, kind of thing. And then go to the mri and they're like, yeah, like we really want to show you the pictures after because it's super cool and obviously your surgery's in two days. And I was like, okay, they said it two or three times now something is starting to kind of click, yeah it's not a good sign.
Speaker 3:So and then I received a call literally later that day from the x-ray guy and he was like yeah, man, like we knew, right away off the x-ray I completely tore my hamstring off my bone, so my hip bone, so it's called a proximal hamstring tear. So yeah, it was four centimeters down my leg, so not even attached at all. And they kind of asked me like how did you do this? And I was like I just planted right. And he was like, well, we see this in like someone deficit squatting 800 pounds, like the clean, clean tear off your hamstring is very uncommon and at that time I'd never heard of anyone who had done that.
Speaker 3:So it was kind of scary a little bit, you know, just not being able to compare yourself to anyone. And they're they telling you like yeah, you're gonna be out for the whole year, kind of thing. And I was like, well, season hasn't even started yet, so and I just started my offseason training and stuff. So very surreal moment for sure. Uh, never dealt with anything like that before. But uh, just being able to overcome that and just work super hard and kind of you know, I felt like I was robbed almost of a great year. Uh, tyson had a great year when I won the great cup obviously.
Speaker 3:So mvp, canadian mvp, know and he just did really well. So it was bittersweet, for sure, watching him, but I was just very proud and glad that Very proud man for sure.
Speaker 1:No, I mean, yeah, it's your brother. Yeah, yeah, you still beat his ass. Yeah, exactly, I'll get old the next day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that's pretty awesome. Well, I was like would it not be a dream for Calgary to beat Montreal in the Grey Cup?
Speaker 3:Yes, I've been dreaming of it, I've been envisioning it.
Speaker 2:Because he's got something over you now right.
Speaker 3:He definitely does. You know, I had the being drafted first. I could hold that over him, but now he's definitely got me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly yeah. So I mean I would love to see that. Honestly, that'd be amazing to see you know Calgary, Montreal, go for the great cup. I'm excited, it'd be really cool.
Speaker 3:It's one of those things that could happen too, obviously with the East and West and how the playoffs work out and stuff like that. We could definitely play each other for we wanted to do it last year. Honestly, that was because it was gonna be awesome. Obviously, he unfortunately, uh, had an injury and we kind of stunk the bed yet last year so not a great year for us.
Speaker 1:Sibling rivalry question for you okay, this, this is, uh, this should be on our 10 questions, but we just I just thought of it now. Uh, what, okay, aside from football? Yeah, okay, what, what's something you're better than your brother at?
Speaker 3:oh, oh yeah so I'd say hockey yeah that was my first love I'm not gonna lie, yeah, yeah, okay yeah, so we both played ball hockey for eight years growing up, we played on all the provincial rep teams in bc and we were supposed to start ice hockey, but it was just one of those things where it was like football and hockey and obviously you got to choose one that you care about more and we at the time couldn't. So we were supposed to, but I was always the guy that was out there playing roller hockey. Like I put on my roller skates, just imitating like I was skating, and they always wanted to play with shoes and I was like, no, we want to play with roller skates, make it as realistic as you can. So I would be out there playing on roller skates while they're all in shoes.
Speaker 1:So I was definitely at a disadvantage but, it definitely helped my skating and that kind of stuff so and now, and I want to ask you the same question, just be, be humble for a minute okay what your brother got you on. That's not football.
Speaker 3:I won't ask about football if I'm gonna admit it, that something that he'd like to hear me say is he's faster than me.
Speaker 2:So he does, he does have me on that in a straight line long, long race.
Speaker 3:He's got me. I got him off the start but like he's, he's always been the 200 meter, like that's been his. But that makes sense if you come from a running back like you're more explosive off the get-go and he can go longer yeah, exactly over the top.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that makes sense yeah, cool, good question, though. I like that. There you go, but, um, so yeah, what's what's? What's? What do you see next for you? Obviously you see a championship, but, like, what are your goals, you know, for this upcoming year? Outside of winning a championship, what do you want to?
Speaker 3:do. I got lots of goals. You know it's last year I was able to finish third on my team in receiving yards. Yeah, you had an up year yeah definitely, definitely had an up year, obviously coming from not playing, so it's got to be up from that. But it's got to be up from that. But even from my first year.
Speaker 3:That's what I meant.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, even from my first year. You know it's just a team. I just feel like you know, I was able to capitalize on some of the plays that they were putting me in and obviously last year they didn't want to overload me. That was one of the big things where it was like, you know, I felt 100, but you never exactly exactly get hit again, all that kind of thing. You know, I've never missed an entire year of football, uh, covet year obviously, but I was training, doing all that kind of stuff. So I was still in it. Being robbed and having to sit on your butt for four or five months and just watch people play, it was definitely different for me. But, um, yeah, just slowly easing myself, uh, back in you. I think it was about week two or three where I started to really feel myself again and feel like, okay, yeah, I can do this.
Speaker 3:So some big goals this year, obviously got the new contract this year, so really looking to go and show the team that they made a great investment in me and that I'm here to stay and I'm here to help the team win. That was one of the big things for me. Is. I just really wanted to show my worth, kind of Obviously I was a first round draft pick and dealt with injuries here and there.
Speaker 3:So I got a big chip on my shoulder and just super excited to show the team like, hey, I'm a guy and obviously everyone knows about Tyson, they've seen what Tyson's been doing. I mean, when we played them he had 10 grabs for 115, 20 yards and he iced the game on a big catch and kind of standing on the sideline, like looking at my team, like hey, like you know I could do that. Just put me in the opportunities to make those plays. So I feel like this year, you know, I've had some great conversations with my coaches and again feeling super healthy. Now they always say, coming off injury, it's your second year, is your year, that's your big year, where you just feel exactly the same. So I think it's gonna be a big year for me. I think it's gonna obviously try to get to a thousand.
Speaker 2:I think that's the that's the I was gonna say. What do you want to get to a thousand?
Speaker 3:years, for sure, that's. That's the mark in cfl, you know it is a big yeah especially as a young guy, to go to the nfl, like that's kind of what they say hey, go get 1,000 yards in the CFL, go dominate the CFL, and we'll be calling, and I have a couple teams that are just kind of waiting for me to do that. So some big goals for me, but I think I can do it you want 1,000 yards and 10 touchdowns. Yeah, let's take it 1,000 yards and 10 touchdowns, for sure That'd be huge.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm excited I.
Speaker 3:I think it's attainable.
Speaker 2:So last thing before we move into our 10 questions. I kind of offered this to your brother, but if you guys ever want to be the Kelsey brothers of the North, we'll make that podcast happen.
Speaker 3:That's awesome. No, yeah, we'll make that happen.
Speaker 1:I think we should, I think it's, but like one of you has got to find, like the Canadian Taylor Swift, right, that's how I see it.
Speaker 2:Who is that? Avril Lavigne, I was going to say, is it Avril Lavigne or like Shania Twain?
Speaker 1:It's Shania Twain. She's still gone. She's great looking. Yeah, she is. I don't know who that would be right now. That's the thing I don't know. Well, I'll have to get back on that one. That's a good deep thought question yeah, exactly Exactly.
Speaker 3:Well, the one that I would say that I can say off the top of my tongue. Obviously she's an Alberta girl, so it kind of helps. I think Tate McRae, that's what her name is. I don't know if you guys have ever heard of her. I know the name but I don't know her music, pictures and stuff they've posted with her and the stampeters, jerseys and stuff like that. But yeah, she's up and coming, so I think what's up, there we go.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I got a couple a couple guys on my team who took a couple shots at her too no response no response is back yet, so there you go all right, so let's go into the 10 questions.
Speaker 1:So, matt man, I really think we should get the camera for this.
Speaker 3:So how does this 10 questions work? It's like it's, it's really dark.
Speaker 2:No, we ask you 10 questions and you can either choose the answer or you can choose to take a drink.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, good thing I got some drink. There's no, there's no questions here that they're all.
Speaker 1:they're all pretty easy questions, I think.
Speaker 2:Perfect. Yeah, fairly tame. Yeah, yeah, fairly tame. For the most part Fairly tame. Yeah, I don't know who did.
Speaker 3:There's been a couple people who have asked us like, hey, why don't you guys get on TikTok, you and Tyson you?
Speaker 1:guys totally should get on there and bust balls. I know it's so fun to watch.
Speaker 3:It's something that we've got. The CFL needs it.
Speaker 1:They should be paying you guys to get on there and start some CFL TikTok influencer type stuff that get people in the door watching Canada football.
Speaker 3:I'd say that's the one big thing that the CFL kind of is their marketing game. You know they've expanded a little bit. I've got a couple of buddies who have started some podcasts and stuff like that and the CFL at first wasn't very lenient about giving rights to any of their filming or any of their trademarks or anything like that.
Speaker 1:Give it up.
Speaker 3:You need to get it out there. They finally last year, uh, they I think they picked like six guys and we're like okay, here's access to all of our stuff.
Speaker 2:Give it to everybody the brand exactly you and no show time is pretty big.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly show time, yeah that's my buddy, malcolm lee, who runs that and, uh, he was one of the first guys to just kind of jump on the scene. But it's super cool and it's something that they need to push. Even there's been some talks about just like getting CFL guys in Canadian commercials just stuff like that.
Speaker 1:It's super easy, Just sort of get them in the culture of Canada right, I agree, you got a great year to do it, I agree.
Speaker 3:I've never seen so much Canadian mojo Push the narrative for sure.
Speaker 2:Thanks Trump, but he got people going. He does, which is really great. Oh, he united Canadians like a gold medal game versus the USA.
Speaker 1:You know what, though, before we get into the 10 questions or whatever. We'll keep this in, on this part at least, but like hot, take on that game that happened over the weekend the NHL game or not the NHL game?
Speaker 2:it is an NHL game. It's the four season.
Speaker 1:it's organized by the NHL, yeah, but like man, I didn't like seeing Canada boo America. Oh me, neither you know what. Yeah, I mean heart to heart.
Speaker 2:I mean you know I'm going to look for a different take.
Speaker 1:Okay, let me finish. Yeah, you go ahead, but like I'm like, I'd be for it a more playful situation than I would right now.
Speaker 3:Fair, enough, because Canadians are really hurting right now and this stuff has potential to get very serious, because you've got a guy running the US right now that's wacky. We don't know what he's going to do. All of this is made up from the beginning. It's like straight out of a movie.
Speaker 1:So we don't know what he's accusing us really of.
Speaker 3:I mean fentanyl.
Speaker 1:none of it really came through you know, a lot of these accusations are just wild and winded right. Canada has a right to be pissed off, for sure, but we also got a right to be, I think like the smarter, better, stronger mentality type and just say look we're not going to play now. Yeah, we're not playing into it. These Americans here not going to play? Yeah, we're not playing into it.
Speaker 2:Yeah well, these americans here playing hockey are good americans and we're not going to worry about them. We worry about the idiots that that dictate a nation. True enough? No, and I I my gut. My gut feeling was pretty much everything. I agree with you.
Speaker 2:My gut feeling was kind of like let's not do that, yeah but kind of hearing some other people out and kind of hearing some like some other takes and stuff like that, and the thought process was like this is a man who is verbally and essentially trying to attack our sovereignty. True, yes, if any other country was doing that, if all of a sudden North Korea was doing that, we'd be easily booing their anthem. True, why are we giving them a pass? We need their people to sit there and go.
Speaker 1:Canada's been nothing but nice to us for like literally all of our existence that's what I want to see it from americans and I agree with you on that, and it's like these guys are booing us and booing our anthem.
Speaker 2:It's like maybe we did something wrong here. Yeah, yeah, maybe we need to like rethink, but they didn't like. I mean, the thing is just like, that's the thing. That's the only way you can hold them accountable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, I would love to see Americans stand up a little and say like really Canada, Like you know, Seriously and like just look at the facts for two seconds. Yeah Right, they're like this guy is obviously space-coding every single problem he's ever had.
Speaker 2:He's a narcissist. He's blaming it on other people, right? Like you know, it's so obvious he's a. And he said like oh, whoever made this trade deal with Canada is the worst person. Like worst deal, worst deal. And then it's like dude, you did it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, he made the deal.
Speaker 3:You literally made the deal like eight years ago or whatever it was. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like you're the idiot. You just called yourself dumb, right? So I mean it's anyway yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean it's just rise together and say, hey look, we've got a lot of great things going on right here, right.
Speaker 3:I agree. Well, it puts me in a pickle because I'm a dual citizen. Oh, are you?
Speaker 1:I am, but it's one of those things where.
Speaker 3:I would hand over that American citizenship real quick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, don't say that you might get drafted right in the NFL. What's up, canada boy?
Speaker 2:I'll say the same thing to your brother, though. We need receivers in New England.
Speaker 3:That's a very good point. We have a history of Josh McDaniels' back. We have a history of using running backs and receivers and stuff, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
Speaker 2:Anyway, let's move on to 10 questions.
Speaker 3:All right.
Speaker 1:How are we starting you?
Speaker 2:want to start here. Like you know, wink, wink, nudge, nudge. Yeah, anyway, let's move on to 10 questions. All right, so welcome to.
Speaker 1:How are we starting? Do you want to start Do?
Speaker 2:you want me to start? Sure, so here we are. We have Matt Conrad, mike.
Speaker 1:Tobin and Jalen.
Speaker 2:Philpott, and here we are with. We just recorded a podcast we're going to. So we got 10 questions. They're mostly fun, but you know whenever, throw a couple things out there and we'll see what happens do I go first?
Speaker 1:so you can go first, all right, who's the better cfl player, you or your brother?
Speaker 3:I gotta give that one tyson right now.
Speaker 1:He can have that one right now I'll let him.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna come back to it.
Speaker 1:There's little asterisks?
Speaker 2:yeah, but you're coming for him. Yeah, he is. You can have it for now. Good answer, that's a great answer. Um, okay, what's your favorite route to run? What's your money?
Speaker 3:favorite route is probably gonna go. I'm gonna go 10 yard, 12 yard in route, okay. So it's one of those ones where you know I'm breaking in but I kind of can give them a little something, make them think I'm running out, make them go vertical. Everyone loves the deep routes, yeah, of course, and I mean everyone wants to score touchdowns. But I'm one of those guys where if I can efficiently run this route, then I think there's no way you can cover me, so I'm going to take an in route.
Speaker 2:All right, I like that. You know what I always liked. I'm not as athletic as you are had five to seven in yeah that was my money.
Speaker 3:Yes, I like being in the thick with the linebackers. Yeah, find the holes and just hopefully don't get your head taken off.
Speaker 1:That's the only thing I'm across in the middle there that's true, okay, who is your mount rushmore of football players?
Speaker 3:mount rushmore, let's go. Barry sanders, for sure, he is a legend. I gotta put a pittsburgh stealer in there, so. So I'm going to go. Troy Palamalu that's a defensive guy, you know. He made all the right plays.
Speaker 2:I got to go another.
Speaker 3:Pittsburgh Steelers fan too. I mean another guy. I got to go Lynn Swan as well at wide receiver, great, he was just physical and just awesome. And LaDainian Tomlinson, another guy that I really looked up to as a kid and just thought he was awesome interesting. Yeah, interesting no quarterbacks, no, no quarterbacks.
Speaker 2:That's my, that's my personal yeah, yeah, that's what you want. Yeah, yeah, exactly, that's interesting, all right. So if you didn't play football, what would you do?
Speaker 3:I'm really interested and I think it might still happen is firefighting. I think it's okay. That's I think it's super cool. You know, it's one of those things where adrenaline rushing, you know, obviously you get to save lives, and it's just one of the things where they're super well respected around the community too. So I think it plays hand to hand with sports and football.
Speaker 1:So firefighting? I think it's really cool. Great answer, all right. Should professional athletes be allowed to use steroids?
Speaker 3:No, I'm going to answer that one. Why not? It's cheating, it's one of those things where I think it's just Well, it gets you going, yeah it does Is it cheating.
Speaker 2:If everyone's doing it, though, that's a good point. I guess I always ask that. Yeah, that's the argument.
Speaker 3:I guess that is a fair argument but, there's going to be a lot of people who are opposed to it. So I feel like you're not going to be able to find that balance, but I don't think it helps you in football either, unless you're playing.
Speaker 2:D-line or.
Speaker 3:O-line, where you just want to grab people.
Speaker 2:Honestly, I would say in a contact sport it probably doesn't help you because the injuries increase heavily with steroids.
Speaker 3:That's true. It works easily for baseball and stuff because there's no contact. But football you get hit by a 300 pound man.
Speaker 2:You're on roids, yeah like you, can you, those knees aren't holding. Like you want to talk. Yeah, exactly, you want to talk about like massive muscles on bones that get ripped off pretty true, oh yeah that's it anyway okay, so yeah, so, um, uh, your brother was very much into video games. Yeah, are you? Are you also a gamer and if so, what games?
Speaker 3:Yes, I'm also a gamer as well. I'm big on Call of Duty right now the new Black Ops. It's one of those ones where I played it as a kid, so it's super nostalgic to me, yeah. But I love the sports games too. I'm a big car Like. I love the ones where you can mod cards Need for Speeds and stuff like that. You can just modify the cars and make them super cool. That's one of the games I'm always playing too. I like it.
Speaker 1:If you could draft animals to play on a football team, what animals would you draft as QB?
Speaker 2:Wide receiver running back tight end and O-line. You got five animals.
Speaker 1:We need five animals. Yeah, you need five animals.
Speaker 3:Quarterback. I think I'm going to go with giraffe. You know he can see the field.
Speaker 2:He's got a long neck, so if he's throwing it with his neck or something Not much of an arm, but I can see him. You want the Brock Osweiler of quarterbacks? Yeah, I do, he'll throw it with his mouth or something like that He'll slingshot it Wide receiver.
Speaker 3:I guess Giraffe would have been good for that one too. But Cheetah, he's fast, He'll go over the top of you. That's a gimme. Running back, running back, running back. Give me a Rhino.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was thinking that too.
Speaker 3:He's tough. You don't want to mess with him. Tight end, tight end. Let's go. It's a sticky one. I'm trying to find something that's balanced, you know? Uh, give me a lion.
Speaker 2:He's fierce okay, all right feel it yeah an o-line. O-line hippo yeah, there you go, hippo aggressive wide don't want to mess with them all right, so next question. This okay with them. All right, so next question this.
Speaker 3:Okay. Finish this song lyric. Okay, ain't nobody dope as me, I'm just so fresh and so clean. Ding, ding, ding, there you go.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, there you go all right, uh, what's the meaning to existence like human life? What's the meaning, man, I'm a drink.
Speaker 3:I'm a drink for that one Existence. I would drink for that one. Too big of a question.
Speaker 2:Sure, that's fine. So last one this is the common question that we're asking everybody this year. Okay, so what is one bit of advice that you were given that you would like to share with us and our listeners?
Speaker 3:Okay, you were given that you would like to share with us and our listeners. Okay, I think I mean, obviously I've been given lots of advice from lots of speakers and stuff, but something that just kind of stuck with me was just something about just being just humility. I think it's just being a human, you know, knowing that everyone is human. You know, it's something that I've learned, uh, given the platform that I have right now and being a professional player, I do air quotations because to me, everyone is human, everyone's normal. So I think that's something super cool that I keep with me is that even though people get put up on this pedestal or people think they're celebrities and kind of stuff, everyone's human.
Speaker 3:So I kind of like to treat everyone the same and kind of stuff. Everyone's human. So I kind of like to treat everyone the same. You know, if I meet a superstar out in wherever you know, I'm just going to talk to them like a normal person, just because I just think that everyone's looking for that, especially a guy coming from who you know. People are always watching you and keeping a close eye on you and stuff like that. People like me are people who just want to meet other people, who are just super normal, just down to earth and you know, uh, just just human, exactly like that. So I think something is just be very nice, obviously, but just treat everyone like they're human and just respectful, and I think everyone wants that treat people like they're human.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, good answer. I like it. It's probably refreshing for people who you know get a lot of attention. Yeah, yeah, and I think that's the biggest thing. When people meet me, they're like you're not who I thought you were, and I like it.
Speaker 3:It's probably refreshing for people who get a lot of attention and things like that. Yeah, and I think that's the biggest thing, when people meet me, they're like you're not who I thought you were and I was like it's because I'm human, I'm normal. Whenever I meet these little kids, they're like oh, I get to meet this superstar and I'm like, hey guys, I say it's full circle for me, especially being able to play in the Canadian Football League as a fan. As a little kid I just looked up to it. I always wanted to do it. So now I just get to see those little kids and look up and see them.
Speaker 1:Jalen. Perfect answer, man. Yeah, perfect answer. Thank you, it was awesome, it was really great.
Speaker 2:Thank you for coming on the show.
Speaker 3:Thank you, that's it. Perfect, you nailed it Easy. I love that, thank you. I like to talk sometimes.
