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Brad Farquhar - The Internet Revolution is Purple and Moo’s
Brad Farquhar didn't follow the path that most would when he moved into his Halifax apartment and found his internet costs were too high… He started his own internet company!
Named after Seth Godin's influential marketing book about standing out from the crowd, Purple Cow Internet was born with a simple mission: offer reliable internet at half the price of the big companies. Six years later, Brad's company has grown to 57 employees serving customers across Nova Scotia, PEI, and Newfoundland.
This episode also shares an exciting new development that Purple Cow is working on to make internet speeds even faster.
If you’re interested in joining the internet revol’MOO’tion, Visit purplecowinternet.com and learn how YOU can join the herd. (See what we did there :D)
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Speaker 2:Welcome to the Afternoon Pint. I'm Mike Tobin. I'm Matt Conant.
Speaker 1:I'm Brad Farquhar, brad Farquhar.
Speaker 2:Brad, you own a company or you operate a company.
Speaker 1:What do you do? Yeah, so the business I started about six years ago now is called Purple Cow Internet. Ah, I heard of you.
Speaker 2:I've seen your billboards Billboards.
Speaker 1:Maybe you've seen the most recent one. It's a little bit funny which one's that now? Well, it says prices more stable than some world leaders.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:Or prices more stable than tariffs. Okay.
Speaker 3:I do like that Way to jump on that national unity right.
Speaker 1:Gosh Purple Cow, we just have fun. That's what it is. Yeah, the marketing team.
Speaker 2:I've seen your ads on Facebook with a young woman and she's like, just I forget what she's doing there. She's talking up your brand, though. She's fantastic.
Speaker 1:I actually married her, oh, okay.
Speaker 3:Married her and recently had a kid. Recently had a kid as well because we were going to book you in a month earlier and you were having a child that week.
Speaker 1:It's been a great time having a little guy. His name's Luck and gosh. My heart just melts just thinking about him.
Speaker 2:That's cool. Well, welcome to the world Luck. Hopefully it's a good one by the time you grow up there.
Speaker 3:Yeah awesome, so we can dive right into some of this stuff, because we get a lot to cover. Yeah, yeah sure yeah.
Speaker 2:So I'll just say where we're at real quick. We're at Station 6 this week, I'm actually enjoying a non-alcohol beer. It's a propeller lager, right, so the craft beer market is making non-alcohol beers, which I think is awesome Some days you just don't want one. Want to have an alcohol, beer, right. So yeah, I'm enjoying that. You Don't want one, want to have an alcohol beer right, so I'm enjoying that.
Speaker 3:You're trying that too, brad eh, yeah, yeah, so far, so good. I really like it. Yeah, awesome, I got the Izaka.
Speaker 2:Awesome.
Speaker 3:Another awesome beer right. It's a really good one, Good propeller beer.
Speaker 2:So it's all propeller today at Station 6? Yeah, it is. Yeah, so Purple Cow there is a purple cow marketing book that's extremely popular. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Now, did the two? Did one influence the other, or was this completely?
Speaker 1:uh, independent. Yeah, unfortunately, seth godin beat me to writing that book. Um, well, actually. So I have a marketing degree from saint marys university and seth godin, that book called purple cow, was super influential on me at a few different stages of life and it's my by by far favorite marketing book. Okay, and I remember I was starting Purple Cow At the time I was trying to figure out the different names for it. I was like, you know, like Atlantic Internet, or True Atlantic Internet, or you know, like the Raptors were just running True North.
Speaker 1:You know like I was trying to figure out something, and I was reading this book again called Purple Cow. And I was reading this book again called Purple Cow, and I was like, oh my gosh I think that's what I'm going to name the business and the whole idea around Purple Cow is that in every industry there's a potential for one of them to be there. Right, yeah, and it is a business that tries to go above and beyond, one that tries to do something different, one that puts the customer first, one that tries to do something different, one that puts the customer first. And I thought of a landscape of telecommunication company, of two all-book-office companies here in the Maritimes. There's a lot of room for a Purple Cow. So hence Purple Cow Internet. We launched it in 2019, and we've been growing it since. Cool.
Speaker 2:And we've got some really cool stuff. Have you ever talked to Seth Godin's and does he know that the internet was inspired by his book?
Speaker 1:You know what you know? I had lunch with him the other day.
Speaker 2:It was like, pretty good, he did an.
Speaker 3:MA beer as well.
Speaker 2:You know I haven't talked to him, but I think it would be really cool to let him know.
Speaker 1:It would be kind of neat to just kind of say hey, by the way, way, this happened, right, yeah, yeah yeah, because I mean his book's about being remarkable.
Speaker 2:Basically, uh is is like the, the secret sauce and like being uh awesome company. Is that kind of on the on the wavelength? Yeah, yes I.
Speaker 3:I also like the fact that, like, uh, I think you know a lot of companies try to do the what your your original thought process was of, like, trying to like, relate to the area in which you're launching, uh, you know, like with, with, could I call it Nova Cable or something or whatever? Right, and I think a lot of companies do that. Just the fact that it's Purple Cow.
Speaker 2:It's silly but fun it's silly but fun.
Speaker 3:But I think it also makes people kind of curious. Like you think sometimes you want people to think of your brand when you say that, but all of a sudden it's like Purple Cow. If I'm driving down, you know, and this is what happened, when I'm driving down and I saw an ad and to see purple cow and I'm like what the hell is purple cow? Like what, what is that? So what does it do? It triggers you to Google what purple cow is, kind of thing. Right, like what does that mean? Are we serving purple milk now? Like what's going on here, you know.
Speaker 2:So I think it's great, I think it's really good. So Purple Cow, like where did it start? Like how did Purple Cow start?
Speaker 1:Well, I graduated from St Mary's University and when I graduated, I ended up moving down to the United States for about nine years.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:And so I was pretty used to living down in the United States. What things cost, and I eventually decided okay, I'm gonna move home, don't want to live in the united states anymore. Came back to nova scotia and uh, got my first apartment. Went to get internet and I was just blown away. How much internet cost it, what year was this 120 bucks. This is back in 2018 this was okay.
Speaker 3:So this was like literally just before you launched that okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So 2018, well, probably 2017, moved home, ish, and got the apartment and couldn't believe how expensive it was. I looked around there was one other company selling it for like $60. I was like, wow, how is a company selling it for $60? But they had horrible reviews, terrible reviews. So I ended up going with them and seeing exactly why they had terrible reviews. But it got me thinking, like, man, if you could start a business, you're selling the Internet at half the cost the big guys, but had amazing reviews.
Speaker 3:You could really have a business.
Speaker 1:So that's where the idea came from.
Speaker 2:Is that so simple, Almost kind of no offense, kind of dumb in a way. It's so simple but brilliant.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's one of those things where you find a problem in life and you're like wow, I can solve that. Yeah, so how does it?
Speaker 2:work though. I mean you know we get internet, you know internet. I mean we go, we ask the big company, internet company and say, hey, make my internet bill lower. They're like no can do in lots of cases, like how do you get it cheaper? How does that?
Speaker 1:work? Yeah for sure. So I was posed with the exact same question when I decided I was going to start this business. I had no idea how all the pieces went together like IP addresses, servers, routers, data centers, putting it all together, crtc, getting approvals, licenses no idea for any of these things. So I just started putting it there piece by piece and started talking to my friends that knew a lot about internet, started googling it called the crtc, asked some questions about it, started talking to consultants. Consultants were giving me advice and some help. Some of those consultants I'm still working to are working with till today.
Speaker 1:Right, but it took me about a year to put all these pieces together, buy the equipment and actually launch the business. And before I launched and I encourage this to every single entrepreneur before you launch a business is making sure that all your buddies and your friends are going to sign up for it. If you call up and like, yeah, I'm brewing a new beer and it's going to be a cow flavored manure and it sounds really cool, like maybe your buddies don't like it, right, and that's a really good indication. Because if your buddies say I don't know brown like I really wouldn't buy that you know it's probably not a thing, but I asked about 25 friends and they're like, oh yeah, like if you start an internet service provider and it's like half the price, I'll for sure switch over.
Speaker 2:And those are my first few clients that joined yeah, and then like so, like I mean, imagine at first, I mean it's, it's probably really tough to get a client or get a get a few people on the street to kind of have faith in you. Once that ball starts to get rolling, when, when do you like what happens with the big internet companies as they start to see their uh, start to see their you know clients?
Speaker 1:diminish. It's one of those weird things, because for me to offer internet through Purple Cow, I have to work with one of these big clients. So we have a relationship with one of the big guys for us to hook our servers and equipments up to their network so we can use their lines, kind of like a highway to get out to consumers' homes. And this is great because we're all across Nova Scotia, we're in PEI, we're in Newfoundland, just from connecting to the World Wide Network.
Speaker 2:But they don't want you on there, of course not. The only reason they do is and I can appreciate that from their perspective yes, me too.
Speaker 1:They spent all this time building up this network. Obviously, a lot of this was government-funded and granted for them to build a lot of their network. But the problem is there's no competition in the industry. So you're getting prices of still $120 for internet. People are paying $300 for the full package. Even across Canada it's still half that. Down in the United States it was like $40, $50 for the services Wow. So we're in a special market where there's an obligatory situation and something needs to be done. There's a governing body over the telecommunications industry called the CRTC. There's a governing body over the telecommunications industry called the CRTC, and they put things into place like anti-competitive rules or that certain companies can't buy out all the other companies to be the only company in Canada offering services. Because you get the situation that we're currently in, where we're spending, as Nova Scotians, the most for internet and telecommunications services in all across Canada, let alone North America.
Speaker 2:So comes Purple Cow Right. We started growing pretty quick and as word started getting out, it was my friends that were joined then my friends of friends, and all of a sudden complete strangers were joined Right.
Speaker 1:That's when you know it's a success, right, it's a movement as soon as it goes past your grandmother and onto somebody that you don't know that's now supporting your service. Yeah, yeah, and I was trying to go to almost all of the installs to plug the modem in. Make sure they had a great time. Tell a couple cow jokes, make sure they had a great experience Right right.
Speaker 1:Because, in the Purple Cow book. If you read it, they talk about creating sneezers and I needed as many sneezers at the very beginning. That's going to sneeze Purple Cow on to all their friends and buddies, so they throw it sneezers.
Speaker 2:I love that concept yeah, it explains it perfectly. Yeah, so okay. So now I I mean I this just happened in the news so recently I got to ask you about it because, uh, citywide was another one of these reseller internet companies. Yes, uh, they recently sold to telus, which I thought was pretty wild, right. So now telus obviously is a big, the big three or one of the big threes, right, how is that fair in the market? Like, how does that work?
Speaker 1:now, yeah, there's some companies that are fighting it within the CRTC to block TELUS from buying so many businesses, because you think, in the Nova Scotia market right now they have TELUS, they have Kudu, they have GBS that has an internet that's provided by them. They have what is it? Public Mobile? And now they have.
Speaker 3:Ultima, so they have five different brands.
Speaker 1:I haven't heard of Ultima yet. I haven't heard of them.
Speaker 3:no, they just launched today, today, oh, wow, yeah all city-wide customers.
Speaker 2:Okay so as of April 1st, which is this recording today wow, ultima, okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just got an email that they're changing their branding to Ultima, which is another company that was bought out by Telus.
Speaker 3:And obviously.
Speaker 1:Telus can do what they want and our whole shit is. Competition is a good thing. It's going to drive down the cost, so we're not fighting it. We accept that they're coming and if anything, it just drives every other company, including Bell, and if anything, it just drives every other company, including bell and eastlink, to step up their game because telus is going to come in hot. Like they got five brands here compared to like eastlinks. One eastlink doesn't have a flanker brand I'll do a little draw for easelink.
Speaker 2:I mean I did, I worked for there for 10 years. I I love the people I work with at eastlink and you know, as you do when you work for one of these companies, and I mean I'm a defensive of Eastlink from a stance of, like you know, this is an example of a provincial internet solution, right. So I mean, in a sense we have just so little choice here. But I mean, in a world of big threes where all of Canada is dominated by three telcos, I really kind of always loved working for Eastlink because it was a bit of the underdog right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:It was a smaller company that was going up against these monsters and even when I was selling suits. I was a kid selling suits one time in Mic Mac Mall and I'd be on the top floor of the little Jack Frazier's menswear store out selling tip-top on the bottom floor and that was the best feeling, right, you know it was fun to fight the big dogs. Right was the best feeling, right, you know it was fun to, you know, fight the big dogs right. So I mean to get that. So you, you guys are to east link what east link is kind of almost to the entire nation, right do you feel like east link is still an underdog?
Speaker 2:uh, in some ways, yeah, yeah, I mean I could be wrong in that, but uh, yeah we would definitely be an underdog to east link.
Speaker 1:For sure, for sure, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:Maritime market, yeah yeah 100% right, but yeah, it's just kind of like smaller and smaller pieces as it goes up right.
Speaker 3:It's interesting, like this whole kind of resale market too, because I mean, this is kind of the thing I agree with you about the whole. More competition is far better because it does help keep prices fair and everything for everyone else more affordable. But I do find it's interesting, because how do you convince someone to let them use like for you to use their market to be a competitor?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a CRTC ruling saying, hey, across Canada, there's not enough competition for telecommunications. Crtc stepped in and said, hey, big guys, these are the rates, wholesale rates, that you have to charge these guys for access to your network, so we are able to go in using that same with other telcos across Canada.
Speaker 1:A lot of them, sadly, like Citywide, has been recently bought out by the big telcos, which does limit the choice. Now, this program is amazing. This allows little companies like mine to be able to stand on the shoulders of giants, so we've been super fortunate for that. But it doesn't come with a red carpet rolling out. It's not easy, by no means, and over the past several years, a lot of things that we're trying to do to create a magical experience we just can't do underneath this relationship that's carved out by the CRTC. So I want to announce something on your guys' podcast. I want to tell you guys something.
Speaker 3:Okay, all right Special announcement.
Speaker 1:That's pretty awesome Guys. So three years ago I applied to the CRTC to be able to run and build my own network here in Nova Scotia.
Speaker 3:Three years ago. Three years ago.
Speaker 1:Okay, it took a long time. I had to do all the engineering, everything like that, to get these fiber lines up on the telephone poles so we can avoid using the big telcos lines and be in the bucket of the CRTC ruling, so we can launch something that is super special for the Maritimes. Yeah and um, we just brought on our first customer recently. Wow, it was a really cool experience.
Speaker 1:I had literally dried like dropped a tear yeah because I've been working so hard and the whole team has been working so hard to put this fiber network together, because we want to continue driving down the costs for nova scotia and some maritimers and we know the only way we can do that is if we invest a ton of money building our own network. So we can have control over the whole entire experience, from the time you sign up to the time you get installed and any issues you have along the way well, congratulations, cheers, yeah, cheers to that.
Speaker 2:That's awesome yeah thanks, mike.
Speaker 3:You know I I I'm truly. What inspires me about that is that it it seems like you're carving a path for other things, that for affordability I'm thinking like this model could be something that maybe we could take shots at, like amera, no, social power, like things like that, where someone could go at them and be like no, you know what. We're going to use a similar model, someone who already has the lines in there, but are you saying we should start tobe con energy because that would be the dopest?
Speaker 3:name for energy tobin conrad energy.
Speaker 2:That's our last name, sorry. Yeah, that'd be.
Speaker 3:That'd be the best thing okay, tobe con energy here we go yeah purple cow, we're gonna you know powered by purple cow internet.
Speaker 2:There you go. Yeah, we'll all work together.
Speaker 3:There you go, I like it, yeah yeah, but that's the thing I think it's really cool. I mean, we need more local entrepreneurs here and I think there's ways to kind of see that. So this is a huge step. It's huge. Do you sit back and think that my company is six years old? And let's not pretend that telecom companies aren't huge.
Speaker 2:No, dude, big Some of aren't huge Right, they're big Right, and some of the richest people in the world own telecom companies, right, like Bell's not a new company, right you know it's. I mean, these companies have been around for decades.
Speaker 3:Centuries.
Speaker 2:So to almost get in the door as an independent. It seems almost no one does it anymore. It's almost like you know it's not cool, no one tries that anymore. Yeah, I totally agree so why are you trying it?
Speaker 1:the barriers are really huge, yeah but I think I think it's needed. Yeah, like without a question, without a doubt, it's needed. And when I told some of my telecom buddies that live across canada that this is what I was thinking about doing, they honestly said I was crazy and not to do it. Yeah, but when I think about it, we're using the big guys infrastructure yep and we're gaining market share, Like last month. Two months ago was our busiest month ever. Last month was our second busiest month ever.
Speaker 3:So the snowball is getting bigger.
Speaker 1:It's moving and I know that if we can continuously reduce the price of internet and increase the speed of internet, you're going to increase your market share. Yeah, just naturally, and that isn't something that is always done in telco, it's. It's increased the speed and increased the price.
Speaker 2:So you're going to have like a, a fiber map and like where's this going to start in Halifax, this fiber?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, so we're launching in Fairview. Oh cool, okay, yeah, and how?
Speaker 2:many like clients. Do you intend to serve with your kind of initial plant? Do you know yet?
Speaker 1:yeah, so we'll pass about 3 000 homes okay, in fairview you know, we're expecting to get about 30 percent of it. Perfect for a thousand thousand serve members yeah, and we already have several hundred of her members there.
Speaker 1:So we'll switch all those over and then we'll encourage other people to switch and I think we'll find a lot of success because, for example, so our pricing is literally half the price of the big guys. So, you know, east Lincoln Bell would charge $120 or something that we're charging $60 for. But the fact that we have our own network now allows us to bring things to Nova Scotia that isn't even across Canada yet, like Speeds, speeds.
Speaker 2:Okay, so you want to go faster?
Speaker 1:Yeah, like right now, the big thing is the gig. You want the gig internet. We can go all the way up to eight gigs.
Speaker 1:Wow, yeah so eight times faster there, ping rate faster than anything else, you see, and everything's symmetrical. So upload is the same as download in every single plan. And this is where I think these are talking about all the features that are really cool, but how that translate to the end user and the benefits that they'll see. They're going to save money to be able to get a vacation. You know if you're saving a hundred dollars a month, that's twelve hundred dollars a year.
Speaker 1:That's a flight down to mexico, wherever you want to fly once yeah, yeah, exactly, um it's it's, it's for some people.
Speaker 3:I was gonna say it's literally food for some people, right?
Speaker 1:yes, and and these benefits I don't want to go without saying because they're so impactful that it will change people's lives, and this is what we're trying to do with. Purple cow is trying to drive down that overall cost for internet, and we know the only way we can continue doing this is we build our own network, and that's what we're doing so when are you getting into cell phones?
Speaker 3:because that's the next thing. We need. Competition on dude, we're trying. We're trying.
Speaker 1:Cell phones is a whole other beast it's. It's not an easy play, but we've been trying for the past year. Yeah, the ball's rolling. Okay, we'll see. We'll see. Yeah, that'll be the next reason I come on you guys do television, as you guys do television as well.
Speaker 3:TV home phone. Yeah, yeah, it's all there, yeah cool.
Speaker 2:And how's the TV?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was going to ask about TV because, honestly, I don't hear much about it.
Speaker 2:It's just such a yeah TV. I mean a lot of our generation and younger, I mean now a lot of people just don't even have TV.
Speaker 1:I Well you guys are our target market. Yeah, like I have TV at home because, well, I like to watch Survivor, I think it's like the most popular show. Yeah, cool Dude, it's cool, and so our TV is really neat because you don't have this big clunky box that you need to ship someone or return or anything like that.
Speaker 3:It's just an app.
Speaker 1:Download it on your phone, download it on your iPad, download it on your TV.
Speaker 3:wherever it is I use a Fire Stick at home for it. I use a Fire Stick, but I suppose the CEO of Purple Cow can't have IPTV.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:If people want to use IPTV power to them. What's important to us is that you find a solution that you're happy with and that's less expensive. We actually get customers that, with the ruling and the walls that we work in right now with the CRTC, with the big providers, we can only reduce the price so far and that's basically the $60. And sometimes when customers will call up and cancel their big provider, they'll try to save them by reducing their price. Right, and we'll get a phone call saying, hey, I can't actually go to Purple Cow anymore because the big telco, they're going to reduce the price to match it or maybe even down by five bucks.
Speaker 1:Right, the whole team celebrates it. Oh really, I know that sounds weird, right, Like why would you celebrate that customer isn't going with you? But we celebrate it because we're having the impact we set out to do. And it often has this like reverse psychology thing where this person calls up to cancel and we're celebrating it because they're staying with their isp, because they got a better deal yeah and I think and reflect back of maybe a bad experience they had and they're like no, never mind change my mind, I'm gonna stick with you guys.
Speaker 3:Right, let's go yeah, you know that's. That's an interesting thing there too, because it's like I guess this is another reason why I get a little bit frustrated with with companies. You know why many people do is just like you know, I think everyone thinks about the amount of greed that big companies have, like the. You know they have to keep making more and they have to keep growing and they need they not only just pushing the people who have to buy their product down further by cost, but their employees, like it's. It's that burnout of like gotta grow more, gotta grow more every year, gotta grow more. And I mean you have to grow more because you're a small company, you're going to get bigger and everything right. But, um, it's, it's, uh, it just goes. It speaks to these other guys where it's like what's, what's stopping them from just saying like we want to decimate purple cow and we're just going to make all internet standard price ten dollars less?
Speaker 2:than they can't do that. There's laws and stuff behind it that they can't I don't know seller yeah well, they can't change our rates, that that's governed.
Speaker 1:But the telcos could for sure reduce their rates down to whatever they want and yeah, like what's stopping them from just saying like we get fifty dollars a month.
Speaker 2:The way it was explained to me, though, before, and this is from decades ago. You tell me this is wrong, but because of the rules that the CRTC allows you guys to play at as a smaller like, they can't drop down your rates, because then you could apply for lower rates and it would be a zero-sum game.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they definitely would sell.
Speaker 2:So basically it's like okay, if he's $60, we're $60. Okay, well, now he gets to be $30, right.
Speaker 3:No, and I get that, but I get that To me. I'm just kind of like I mean, why isn't everyone just switching to Purple Cow then? Right, right.
Speaker 1:Like seriously why?
Speaker 3:isn't everyone just going to you then and leaving all the big guys? It's clearly more expensive. I can get sure, live in meat cove. You might need, you know, purple cow, I don't know, you guys might not be there yet. We're in meat cove, come on okay, well, there you go it's just one of those things like you know where it's, like you have to get on. You drive on a dirt road to get to meat cove so maybe they don't have internet there.
Speaker 3:I know I don't get self-service, but it's it just. It's mind-boggling that everyone's just not just like see you, bye, right, yeah, and we're not without our faults too.
Speaker 1:So like we make mistakes and stuff like that, and I think, at the end of the day, the faults we make, we try to be perfect, we try to do everything we can to make it the most amazing experience that's out there. But we have to play in the rules that the crtc put in place, and this is what's driving us to build our own network so we can create our own rules we can create a magical experience now.
Speaker 2:Now here's a question for you. I mean now the cost associated with building a fiber network. Oh, there we go. We got an ambulance driving by station six, let's go yeah so, uh, so, like the cost of building, this must be crazy like you know. You know, I mean I know it's a tremendous investment. Now, are you concerned that I mean what ends up happening is your customers end up kind of sometimes having to help to kind of build this network bigger and better, which would put your prices up, wouldn't they not?
Speaker 1:No, we're going to keep our prices the same. So we launched with the prices at $60. Six years later, it's still $60. Amazing, like our, the price is at $60. Six years later, it's still $60. Our costs have gone up, from our equipment to our cost to purchase internet, to purchase the hardware. Everything has gone up. I don't think anything has gone down.
Speaker 2:No, exactly IP addresses have doubled in cost ever since.
Speaker 1:We're holding strong the $60. One nice thing about it is, as more customers come on, it helps us pay for different things. That makes sense yeah, we're able to keep the cost the same, but when we build our own network, we're able to reduce the cost, and that's the whole goal.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:Because now we don't have to pay what the CRTC says we have to pay to the big guys. That goes against a loan that I'm taking to build a lot of this network. It helps out substantially so it's still a very risky move by far, but we feel that it's an important move to make.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it seems like it's. Yeah, it kind of has to naturally be the next step if you want to continue to grow.
Speaker 1:Guys, I'm so excited about it. I really, really am Like for three years I've been working my tail off the team has been working like Curtis, jad, joe, mark, christina, like everyone on the whole leadership team is crushing it how many people are on your team at Purple Cow now. We have about 57 people on the team Amazing, awesome.
Speaker 1:I just listed off the leadership team. We just had our quarterly meeting. We went to dinner to celebrate our first Fiber customer coming on. We told her she was the first customer on. It was a little underwhelming, to be honest, because I was like, yeah, you have the fastest internet in Canada. It's the most reliable, has the shortest ping test. And she was like, oh, this is awesome. And I was like what are you going to do with Canada's fastest internet? Now she's like well, you know, I'm going to watch Netflix and go on Facebook.
Speaker 1:And I was like, yeah, really fast, and you're going to load that picture, no problem.
Speaker 3:That's amazing. It'd be way more funny if she was just like well, pornhub will load a lot faster.
Speaker 1:And yes, yes, it will.
Speaker 3:Exactly.
Speaker 1:I haven't tested her, so I mean yeah, I mean this is pretty crazy.
Speaker 2:I think you know you're coming here. You're seeing a problem, seeing that the you know Internet should be cheaper for Nova Scotians. Creating a solution to that problem, that's pretty darn cool. I want to go back a little bit further, just something. I think you're an endurance athlete.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah. Is that like. What's that about?
Speaker 1:Oh guys, we only have a short period of time. No, but walk us through it. I don't know if you know what an endurance athlete is.
Speaker 1:Well, so I'll give you a quick run through. So when I was in university, I went down in the united states after I graduated to um knock doors on alarm systems yeah. After that I started a solar panel business where we sold and sell solar panels door-to-door. My business partner for that business, he asked me one day it was really funny, I still remember being in the apartment sitting on the sofa and he walks in. He was like hey, brad, brad and he's all excited. He's like do you want to run a marathon with me? And I used to run track in junior high or whatever. I played lacrosse in university so I wasn't out of shape or anything, but definitely not a runner. I thought about it. I'm like sure, sure, I'll run a marathon with you. That's a casual ask. Yeah, and his response was completely unexpected because he said great, it's this weekend.
Speaker 2:No, I swear to you how many.
Speaker 1:Like 40 kilometer marathon yeah. 42 kilometers Full marathon yes.
Speaker 2:Okay, jeez, that's a one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I'm living in Scottsdale, arizona at the time, and this is the rock and roll marathon yeah.
Speaker 1:Rock and roll marathons. They had like bands set up and anyways, I remember going out and like getting to the starting line because I didn't really like train for it. I had three days so I just like made sure I had my shoes and stuff and but I'm standing at the finish or the starting line. I have like those fruit of all and once his shorts on, like the sneakers I had, with like bits of paint on it from painting the other day, like it's just a cotton t-shirt. Anyway, bang goes the gun. I start running and, um, I discovered more about myself on that run than I did like all of university, because you were hallucinating yeah, probably after a while dude the, the chafing between the legs.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that would suck. Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But I got to the point that the pain was so strong, with my cast burning and twitching, that I had to make a decision if I was going to quit or keep going, and I decided to continue pushing through the pain. Yeah, and I remember looking down on my feet and just kind of running. Did you also read David Goggins' book, david Goggins? Wasn't David Goggins back? Then but this would be a David Goggins moment.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:Seems that way. Yeah yeah, I pushed across the finish line. Couldn't believe I did it. I wondered what else in this world did society tell you that you need to train for, you need to put all this effort into, you need to accomplish X, y and Z before you even attempt? And uh, this put me on a path to next run 250 miles to the sahara desert wow then I uh, then I uh, that's.
Speaker 2:That's quite a strange path. You don't do things very. Uh, he has like internet's too expensive. Let's start a company. I ran a marathon.
Speaker 1:Let's go to the sahara yeah, wow, when I was in the sah Desert running, I met this other guy running it too. And he said his goal was always to swim the English Channel, and at the time I had no idea what the English Channel was. He told me all about it. He's like Brad. It's the distance between England to France. You swim it. There's a boat that guides you across, Because when you're standing in England looking over France, you can't see France. When you get halfway out and look back, you can't see England anymore.
Speaker 1:You still can't see France yeah, and you know, something sat with me on that. So like, uh, like, got home after the Sahara Desert and I was like you know what?
Speaker 2:I'm gonna swim the dang channel wow, none of those things interest me yeah but like so, but I mean like to back to you though. Like what, what do you think is it in your brain that makes you go like that, that makes you want to take on a monstrous challenge?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I really enjoy pushing myself to the limit and looking for that and just trying to challenge society's narrative, because I feel like so often in life we're told life is supposed to be a certain thing, we're supposed to play in this certain box, and I've found that the idea of playing outside the box is actually the hardest thing. I always tell my buddies you want to run a marathon? The running the marathon isn't the hard part. The hardest part of running a marathon is signing up for it that's true.
Speaker 3:It's kind of like going to the gym. Yeah, going to the gym is actually the hardest part once you're there it's there.
Speaker 1:It's great, you feel great, yeah, yeah, yeah. The hardest thing of swimming is you jump into the pool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1:It's that first little bit, that's the hardest part, that holds all of us back. And you guys are a success in the sense that you were chit-chatting about starting a podcast. You chit-chat about it and don't take that next step of like getting that first guest in it's not hard to call someone to come in for a chit chat, you know like that's super easy. Yeah, but it is the hardest part of this whole thing yeah, yeah, that's the thing, honestly.
Speaker 3:We talked about it for 10 years and then, finally, mike just bought the gear and then we played with it and played with it. But our first guest was literally one of our best friends and we were just like you know what? We wouldn't even. We weren't even sure if we were going to put the episode out. We were just like, let's just go and do it right, let's just go and do it right. And we sat there and we interviewed them and at the end of it, we were like, I think that was pretty good, it was all right yeah, yeah, right, it's like well, it was a half hour long.
Speaker 2:yeah, whatever we yeah, we were so happy with that, we were so happy with it, right.
Speaker 3:And then we lined up a couple other people that we knew and everything. And next thing, you know, we had a month, we had four episodes, one per week, and we were like I guess we're launching this thing.
Speaker 1:It's happening.
Speaker 3:Right, and here it is, and it's going on fairly well, I think at this point for something starting off, that you guys are killing it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, great job if, if 10 people listened, we probably would still be doing it, right it?
Speaker 3:is what it is right, but it uh, so that's I. I appreciate that whole mentality of just kind of like just doing it, because there was something I heard I don't even know who said it, but there was something that I heard that they said simple minds gossip. They talk about people, average minds talk about current events, but intelligent minds talk about ideas. I think I keep trying to push myself to be there when it's like, yeah, we're talking about current events and things like that, but it's like I want to keep talking about ideas. I want to keep trying to figure out different ways to do things and, and you know, explore different business avenues that you know Mike and I can do and all that stuff. So, and we're trying to expand this, right, we're trying to expand this, not just to be more in a podcast, but we have other avenues that we're working on. Love it.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:So I can appreciate the mentality for that. It's what I think for you, like. What I'd almost like to bottle up is like there's a big difference between starting a podcast and a media company to starting a, you know, telecom company, and at the level and where you are currently, which is a big thing, so it's, it's. I almost wish I could rewind six years ago and follow you along and find out, like you know, what your day-to-day look like and how you, how you did that stuff we all.
Speaker 1:We all have to think, though, is like where I'm at and where you're at with your podcast and 100-something episodes. You didn't start here. We all started taking that first step, not knowing if it was going to be good, not knowing if we were going to fall on our faces. What are our friends and family going to think? And we just pushed through, but you go back to you and your endurance thing.
Speaker 2:You say but you go back to you and your endurance thing and you say, okay, well, I went from a marathon I didn't think I could do, to run around the Sahara, yeah. So when you think about this, these feats that you make, stepping in and doing an internet thing, probably becomes a little bit inherently easier for your brain to say, okay, I can puzzle this together, we can figure this out.
Speaker 1:Well, in every endurance, challenge and every adventure I put together, there's always that how the heck do you do this?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So after the 250 miles, there's Sahara Desert.
Speaker 2:Like sorry, were you an internet guy when you came? Did you have a high technical knowledge on how the internet worked when you came to Nova Scotia? And you had that?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:So you really didn't know, Because I mean, it's such a complicated beast right Dude.
Speaker 1:So for the English Channel. I mean, it's such a complicated beast right Dude. So for the English.
Speaker 3:Channel. I didn't even know how to swim.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, no way. I was living in New Jersey at the time and I went over to Princeton and I asked the Princeton swim coach I'm swimming the English Channel in eight months. Oh, yeah. So I signed up for the English Channel. It was eight months away. I met the coach. I said hey, no way you're going to be able to swim the English.
Speaker 1:Channel but eight months later, sure enough, I swam the English Channel Wow. And from there I went on and competed in the Ditterot, which is this 1,000-mile dog sled race across Alaska where 14 dogs are pulling you across and you're working as a team. From there I competed in Canada's Ultimate Challenge, which is C CBC's hit renew reality TV show, and most recently I was trying to get qualified for the Olympics and I was competing in world cups last winter skiing, but my first baby was on the way and I had to pull back for this season. So that one's going to pass. But you are totally right.
Speaker 1:Like taking on these adventures, taking on these challenges, it's the exact same thing as starting a business, Like you're sitting here and you have to figure out exactly how to do it and put all those pieces together and at first it's unbelievably daunting. But really you just start putting those big pieces together and the big pieces broke down the smaller pieces and smaller pieces. A lot of people get lost in really small pieces. But if you start with the big ones and just get those figured out and just believe in yourself and push on man, it all comes together really does?
Speaker 2:and how did you get out of Nova Scotia? So you're in more than just Nova Scotia too, which is kind of cool. You're in Newfoundland, pei, yeah, new.
Speaker 1:Brunswick as well. That's the benefit of standing on the shoulders of giants. Yeah, Like we are so lucky that CRTC put this together and that we can work with such big companies that they have footprints all over.
Speaker 2:Right, so could there be Purple Cow also in BC here in the future and in Ontario, do you think, or are you going to probably stick to eastern Canada?
Speaker 1:Well, that's the crazy thing. So the wholesale market is interesting in Canada right now. So the CRTC just made a ruling recently that Bell has to open up their fiber lines, so does TELUS, so does Rogers, and so companies like Purple Cow can now jump on and use their network. So here in Nova Scotia we're trying to do it. Bell said that they don't have the infrastructure to support it and so they're going to get back to us if there's an infrastructure cost. I expect that in the next few days on what that will be, if there is a cost or can we do it. So just waiting to hear back on that. But really that's to increase choice to the customers. Where we're not building Purple Fibers Network, right, but yeah, we could totally be right across Canada. That's not entirely our goal right now. We're really maritime Atlantic provinces focused Cool, that's probably where it will be for the next while until we can really do some great things.
Speaker 3:Yeah, amazing, yeah, amazing, yeah, yeah. I find that a little bit funny that Bell doesn't have the infrastructure, but sure.
Speaker 1:Maybe both.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah, I mean yeah, we chatted briefly before this about my distaste for Bell. Sure, they're never going to be a sponsor of the show, so I'll bury them. I don't care, let's go. Let's go. Yeah, I think they're one of the most evil companies in this country, oh man.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, we're getting heavy now. Yeah, we are. I'll say it, I don't care.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so it is what it is. I just I'm not a fan.
Speaker 1:No, that's totally fair, but it is the product of having a hobblogopoly. When you only have two companies doing things, you're going to work with one until you don't like them. Then you switch over to the other one, and then, inevitably, you don't like them as well. Then what do you do? Right, you hate them all. It's kind of like politics.
Speaker 3:Right, you go liberal conservative, liberal conservative, and then, once every 20 years, you throw a little orange in there, and then we're done with that. Let's go back to the same other two, right? Yeah, it seems very much like that, so that's why the extra competition is good.
Speaker 2:This will come out after the federal election has passed, but I mean that was our biggest problem last year and this was a lack of choice, I think federally, I mean it felt like, okay, what's the other option? I don't like my choices right now.
Speaker 1:That's got to be the hardest job in the world. Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. It's uh. People hate you for no reason other than the color of your shirt. I agree with you there, life I agree with you heavily there.
Speaker 3:Um, people deeply feel that they can be, uh, truly, truly cruel and mean to you simply because you wear a different color.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, oh my gosh, it sounds terrible. To be completely honest, props to the politicians that do it and have the, have the ability to take the slander and you know, just work on the positive. But it takes a special type of person no, it's true I mean.
Speaker 3:That being said, though, like I mean honestly, people in your in positions like yourself not maybe not you, because your company is not gigantic yet, but very similar People who get into CEO positions where they're charging whatever rates and people feel that they're getting kind of ripped off or whatever it may be. I don't go at the CEO of Bell because I can't stand their company, but I still don't like them, kind of thing, right.
Speaker 3:No, you're right, it's true that CEOs, can you know, like nobody likes Galen West, and that guy might be one of the most hated Canadians in this country, right?
Speaker 3:So, it can be tough on your side of this thing and right now people probably love you because you're doing something that's really, really supporting it and everything right. And I'm not saying that the tide will change at any point, because if you guys are going to maintain this you know goal of saving people money and truly sticking to it, as opposed to some people who don't well, you'll end up being always that's the equation.
Speaker 2:I always truly wonder, though it's like you, you might grow. Could you grow to a point where you become one of your? You know your own, you know the people that you were trying to go against. As you grow, as you expand, is that ever a concern? Like, okay, what if I end up becoming a direct competitor to Telus or Bell?
Speaker 1:Well, in many ways we are a direct competitor and with us building our own network, it makes us even more of a direct competitor. Now, I think what's going to keep us aligned and what is going to keep us away from turning into having the obligatory mentality is is really like we try to do what's best for the customer and everything like when we were launching tv, we could have for sure increased the price 10, 15 bucks for what we're doing right and even home phone yeah yeah, and like people still do that some people do for sure yeah, okay
Speaker 1:like, like, our full package the triple play the tv, internet and phone is 90 bucks, like it's. We drove that price down, basically as low as you can get, yeah and um. You know that that that question right at the beginning is in how we design it. So like, for another example, it's like, uh, when we're trying to figure out when our technicians are going to be working and going, it's like, okay, nine to five monday through friday. Well, no, like, why do we do nine to five monday through friday? Because that's like what we're conditioned. That's why we work nine to five, you know. But no, like, people are home in the evenings, that's right on the weekend. So we're just, we're designed ours around the customer. We designed that we have the most amount of appointments in the evening and the weekends. And it's like simple things of taking it back to basics like that what does the customer actually want? What does the herd want? What do we need to grow the herd? And I think, if we continue focusing, on that.
Speaker 3:I like that you called it the herd, the herd the cow, the herd, all the way. Yeah, I like it. How do?
Speaker 2:we make sure we don't tip the cow with those high prices. I'll do it. That's a good one.
Speaker 3:He's stealing that. That's totally funny. Don't tip the cow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, no, we're very mission-driven. It's in our core values, it's in our mission statement, and I think this is what's going to keep us pointing in the right direction.
Speaker 2:Man cheers to that again.
Speaker 3:You're going to double think today. Now more than ever, having a cause with a company is what draws. It's a factor that people are actually thinking and considering about. Like you know, there's clothing that I think is way too priced, but because they have a cause, people still buy it.
Speaker 2:You know, the 10-tree hat ball hat.
Speaker 3:That's exactly what I was thinking.
Speaker 1:I bought them twice over.
Speaker 2:One is for my partner and I, just because I like the fact that they plant 10 trees every time.
Speaker 1:I know we buy a sweater. It's cool. Tom's shoes buy one, get one exactly driven.
Speaker 3:Things are like very important but I like that, though, no.
Speaker 1:I like that, I like it.
Speaker 3:I think consumers like it, because I think you can still be a wealthy person and own a business and also still equally give back. I think that's what they should all do, but it's not different from craft breweries, matt.
Speaker 2:I mean you're buying a craft beer because it's like someone that gives a shit about beer.
Speaker 1:So much Right.
Speaker 2:In most cases, most craft breweries come from pure passion.
Speaker 1:Less business, more beer.
Speaker 2:It's a crazy job, just making beer.
Speaker 3:it's an all an, all day, all night kind of gig right, it's not it's not all fun, right no, it's true a lot of work, it's hard, it's hot and a lot of cleanup and a lot of ugly bits that you got to do to make that perfect beer, right.
Speaker 2:But uh, yeah. So anyways, matt, I think we should get on to our fun question round. Are you ready? We can do some fun questions.
Speaker 3:Let's do it.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:They're ready to go here. Wait a minute. I didn't get the list of the fun questions. Oh, we're giving them to you right now. Oh, no, yeah.
Speaker 2:So nobody gets to list these questions. I think this first question is a great one for you, I think.
Speaker 1:Do you work to live or live to work? Oh, I definitely live to work. Sorry, I work to live. I uh, the last like two winters I was training, uh, in ski mountaineering, doing world cups, living over in europe, um. The winter before that I was in british columbia skiing. Granted, I'm working this whole time still renting my place out in Nova Scotia, as I'm renting a place over in BC or Europe, um, but yeah, like I love to live and I worked my tail off to live.
Speaker 3:That's awesome.
Speaker 1:Good answer.
Speaker 3:Very good. Uh, so question number two. So, as a leader and business owner, what do you think is the primary motivator in people?
Speaker 1:think is the primary motivator in people. Well, I honestly, as a business leader, what people want. I think it's different for every segment, but people want more for less, always, um, in my industry, they want more internet and they want to spend less for it. Um, I think that that'd be my answer for the question. Yeah, that's.
Speaker 3:I think that's pretty accurate.
Speaker 2:That's what I want yeah, what do they want?
Speaker 1:they want value in that instance, yeah, and it's like jeff bezos line, for that is that they want um. They're always going to want their products for less expensive and they want it faster could I ask you this question just slightly differently?
Speaker 2:what's your prime? What do you think your primary motive is as a leader? For you was in one of your employees yeah, you know, at any level, like you know. What do you think is like their motivations? Or how do you um? How do you lead? How do you lead a team?
Speaker 1:yeah, like why they follow is the question I think it's because we're we're like a lightning bolt for change, like we want to change the obligopoly that we've been dealing with our entire lives of just two telcos to choose from, and this resonates with a lot of people so they join your team to help fight that cause. Totally cool, yeah, when we're talking to like potential employees. This is this is what purple cow is, and that resonates really well with prospects and that's what keeps the team hungry.
Speaker 1:So you're bringing people on that believe in your mission for sure yeah, you should have seen them like when we clapping and cheering, going out to dinner and stuff or bringing on our first fiber customer, because to an average person no one really thinks about internet too much. You get your telco works, so you're probably with them for years.
Speaker 2:You're mad when it doesn't work.
Speaker 1:That's about it. Yeah, exactly yeah. But for us, we know that this is that little seed that we're planting in the soil right now. That's going to grow, that's going to grow into a big tree one day and it's going to cache it and it's going to like really do something that's special and that can help a lot of people, and we're at the forefront of it.
Speaker 3:I meant to ask you too, when you were talking about your first fiber customer how was that person chosen?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 3:And why wasn't it me yeah?
Speaker 1:totally Well, we selected the area we wanted to go to for, like, customer density, ease of access, didn't have to trim as many trees, those sort of things. Oh yeah, the network started off Smart, but they're an existing customer, so an existing herd member. So we just called her up and said hey, we want to upgrade your internet and this is completely free for you, but you're going to get 10 times the speed and the price stays the same, Was it?
Speaker 3:like a lottery though.
Speaker 1:No, we're going to change, we're going to upgrade all the herd members. No, I meant just for her. How did you pick? Oh, her in particular Operation Manager picked her out. I wasn't even involved.
Speaker 3:That's what I mean, Someone just went like boom.
Speaker 1:Pretty much, I think we messaged probably four people. The poll was here where they started with Fiverr.
Speaker 2:She was the closest I was to it, I believe.
Speaker 1:That's probably how they picked it.
Speaker 3:It was like okay, that's going to cost X amount, that's a good first answer. That's a fine answer too. All right, question number three All right.
Speaker 2:What was your favorite television show growing up as a kid?
Speaker 1:Full House, full House, love that as a kid.
Speaker 2:Full house, full house man.
Speaker 3:There you go, I think we all could say that we will watch a lot full house in our time. Yeah, uncle jesse's the coolest. Yeah, um number four. So, okay, if you could invent a new holiday, what would it be, and why?
Speaker 1:oh gosh, that's a great question. I don't know, guys, a new holiday and why. I'd love to hear you guys' answer to this.
Speaker 3:I mean, I was going to say like Purple Cow Day, but you know, whatever we could do Purple Cow Day.
Speaker 1:We can go Purple Cow Day? Yeah, I mean, that's an easy one, yeah. Value Day yeah, yeah, because we I don't know, I don't know on this question cow day, we can go purple cow, I mean that's an easy one, yeah, yeah. Value day yeah, yeah, they're, because we I don't, I don't know, I don't know on this question. If I was just gonna spitball, I would try to think of something that's underserved and celebrate those people. So I don't know, do we got sons and daughters day?
Speaker 3:oh okay, there you go. Maybe probably, but maybe. But there you go, it's cool, perfect sons and daughters, sons and Daughters.
Speaker 2:Day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, is it Earth Day? Is that like an actual holiday we celebrate? Because that'd be pretty cool if it was an Earth Day and we all took time off and we all went picking up, litter or doing something to actually help.
Speaker 2:I would love a technology-free day.
Speaker 3:Oh, there you go.
Speaker 2:Just one day a year where you just had to. There's no arguments. I have a teenager right. I want to be like I'm sorry kid. I wish I could fight this, but it's no technology day.
Speaker 3:Purple Cow is going to turn the frigging grid off one day, just one day a year.
Speaker 2:One day a year, just flip off the switch. Everybody just kind of figures things out.
Speaker 3:You do that. If you get complaints, I'll give you his cell phone number. You can send all customers to him.
Speaker 1:That'd be a cool one. I really think the world would be a better place sometimes if we could just do that.
Speaker 2:Oh, just for a little while.
Speaker 3:A break A forced break A break once a day, that's true, I'd love that idea. Number five, you Okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, so there's a wide range of acceptable answers here. Okay, so finish the song. Lyric Shake your blank.
Speaker 1:Shake your booty. There you go. That's on there.
Speaker 2:So that was the first for the first response. So acceptable answers were booty, groove thing, tail, feather, rump, ass, hips or body. So there you go, you got one. It's PG, yeah, yeah, that's fairly PG, yeah fairly PG.
Speaker 3:All right, number six. So if you could choose, what would be your last meal, so what would your last meal be?
Speaker 1:Probably be carrot cake, or even strawberry shortcake. Straight up carrot cake, just cake. I love baked goods. Baked goods are so good.
Speaker 2:I usually, if you love this, like elaborate. You just went right for the cake, right for the dessert. What about, like a meal, chicken?
Speaker 1:salad sandwich would be sweet. I like lobster. Lobster is fantastic, but I don't need like the big steak or anything like that. Yeah, chicken salad sandwich, a little bit of carrot cake. Hold the icing Dairy free Perfect.
Speaker 3:All right Okay.
Speaker 2:Cool, that's a different answer.
Speaker 1:That's the one we've got before Do, I got a little bit of a sweet tooth.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's fair. Okay, number seven for you. Okay, what's what resolution you make to yourself that you have a hard time committing to, so I'm going to do this thing? This is a great question for you because you, you've you've taken many small things in your life and then took on that next big monster. So what's a resolution that you have for yourself? Like I want to do this thing, but you got a hard time committing to it?
Speaker 1:well, you know, one is like this is a very common thing in my life, where I'll give up certain things. So right now I'm not drinking alcohol. So when I got married, that was the last time I drank alcohol and it's not like I needed it or anything, but I drank. I was super hungover. I was like, just like we all do, I'm never going to drink again. And that was 18 months ago, oh, okay, recently, about seven months ago, I said I'm not going to eat any more candy because I'm just a stupid fiend Like I will drive by the candy store free-flash box and I'll buy $25 worth of candy oh really and I'll just eat out of the bag until I'm sick and I can't eat anymore and it just destroys my day headache, all the things. So I said, okay, I'm going to cut candy out and that's been awesome, but really challenging. My nephew was over the other day and he was eating gummy bears and I was like, oh my gosh, give me those gummy bears, Okay.
Speaker 3:Tempting. Okay, tempting, all right. So number eight. Okay, do you believe that aliens are among us?
Speaker 1:like in the universe. No, we're here like you're on earth you can answer.
Speaker 3:You don't want to answer both?
Speaker 1:yeah, go for both I believe aliens for sure visit earth and I guarantee that in the universe there's just, there's no way they can't be just statistically okay, all right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so you think they're here eh.
Speaker 1:I think they visit it. Are they here right now? That's up to question, but they've definitely been here. They definitely know we exist.
Speaker 3:All right, all right, there you go. Cool Purple cow's an alien.
Speaker 2:Yeah it's true. Go Betty, all right, we're here, you're doing great and you're killing them in record time. So that's true. So what's the weirdest gift you've ever received that you can think of?
Speaker 3:std's count. I'm just kidding. Weirdest gift I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1:I'm not a big gift guy. I went to visit one of my friends in India once and they gave me a bunch of Indian artifacts and Buddhas and this cup thing you spin around and it hits with two little strings making a sound and I was like man, like what do I do with all these things? It was very generous, it was thoughtful, but it was like, oh my gosh, like what am I supposed to do with these?
Speaker 1:12 trinkets yeah, oh yeah but I still have the magnets on my fridge. All right, that's good that's good, all right.
Speaker 3:So last question, uh, is the one that we've asked everybody over and over again. So what is one piece of advice that you were given that you would like to share with us and our listeners?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So the one piece of advice that I would give is that you have to set your goals high. Okay that you have to set your goals high. Okay, when you do, when you say you want to carry like, take on this audacious challenge, accomplish this wild a goal, you're gonna have friends, you're gonna have family people are smarter than you, taller than you, more educated than you that are going to tell you you can't do it. But you have one life to live and you gotta chase it like that yeah, great answer.
Speaker 3:So, uh, yeah, that's great answer. I will uh anything last before we go, anything that you want to say or anything like that.
Speaker 1:Guys, I'm super thankful you put me on the podcast to like talk about what we're doing over at purple cow and the fiber launch. We are really excited about it and I hope some of your viewers are really excited about the the impact and the change that can have to our province and I just want to thank you for this platform to get that out.
Speaker 2:No, problem, and I mean with no problem, since you're on the show, I mean plug your service. You can go to purplecowcom, is it yeah?
Speaker 1:purplecowinternetcom. Purplecowinternetcom Internet $60 a month. Super reliable, easy to set up we'll help you do it and customer support is it fast if I call, if I have a problem from cranky? Oh yeah, like, the best thing about us is you can text message us. Cool, so text message our main communication way more fun to call we've got a customer portal if you want to get on there and do things. Okay, yeah, you can avoid all humans, cool cool, yeah, oh that's about.
Speaker 3:That's my jam yeah, all right man, alright man. Thank you so much, cheers.
