Closed Caption Writer Bryn Pottie Wrote A Comedy About The Bluenose Being Stolen in the 1920's

Author Bryn Pottie joins us At Jungle Jims Eatery for a few pints of Blue Moon as we dive into his new book titled, 'The Great Lunenburglary' - A hilariously silly and hearfelt novel for casual readers about two teenage kids in the 1920s who steal the famed Bluenose.

We learn a ton about Bryn, from how he toured for nearly eight years with parody comedy/slam poetry duo called the Definition of Knowledge, writing for the Beaverton, and how a job as a Captioner for television shows can actually help in making you a better writer. 

"The Great Lunenburglary. will be hitting local bookstores soon but you can buy June 12th online . We read a few bits in this episode, and we have to join the many accomplished writers, actors and humorists who agree that Bryn's new book is an entertaining read. 

https://www.brynpottie.com/

https://www.amazon.ca/Great-Lunenburglary-Bryn-Pottie/dp/1998149730

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Transcript

Cheers and Introductions

Speaker 1 0:14

of all right cheers cheers welcome to the afternoon point up by toby. I am matt conrad brin potty all right brin how you doing man.

Speaker 2 0:24

Welcome to the show. I'm great. Thank you for having me, guys oh, pleasure is ours.

Speaker 3 0:28

Thank you very much. We are um here at jungle gyms yes, and listeners second time.

Speaker 1 0:32

I know we haven't really gone away off the air, but matt and I've taken a six-week break now from recording. Yeah, so that was the longest break we ever took, dude, that's right, longest break we ever.

Speaker 3 0:42

So yeah, uh, you're, you're kind of uh, you know, repopping our cherry here, cool, do you guys have like a?

Speaker 2 0:48

new perspective on everything, since you left and you came back, I mean, he went to ireland so I mean, maybe that was cool. Yeah, ireland's amazing yeah what my dad and my brother.

Speaker 1 0:57

We did a boys trip through Ireland for like a week.

Speaker 2 1:03

What happened Give me the top three. I would believe that.

Speaker 1 1:08

We walked like 16,000 steps plus a day Damn yeah, mild hangovers. Saw a lot of beautiful sights. Saw the Garrison Brewing Place, of course. Saw the Jameson disting Place, of course. Saw the Jameson distillery, oh wow. Saw Castle it looked like Shrek's Castle. Oh cool, a lot of beautiful sites, beautiful people in Ireland. Like the kindest people in Ireland I've ever met. Dare I say they're the nicest white people on the planet, nicer than.

Speaker 2 1:41

France, france.

Speaker 3 1:44

I don't want to rank white people in different countries right now.

Speaker 1 1:47

So maybe I shouldn't have said that, I'll just move on. They're pretty nice though. They're very friendly and like friendly, but not like nosy neighbor friendly, you know, just like nice. Okay, you know what I mean I like people that are just nice and they're not trying to interview you when they meet you, like we're trying to do with you.

Speaker 3 2:07

Well, there's this guy I've been obsessed with lately on YouTube and Instagram, the guy who says like follow me, I'm delicious. Yeah, that Irish guy.

Speaker 2 2:21

Have you seen that guy? He is awesome. See the uh plastic surgery guy.

Speaker 3 2:23

No, okay, he's just, he's a, he's a guy, he's a little bit bigger guy, he's like long hair and like kind of a scruffy beard and he, he, he does an incredible american accent.

Speaker 3 2:31

Okay, he does this great american accent, but like, he basically just talks a lot about like how the irish are cliches kind of thing, and then he also compares to other countries, mostly americans, a lot about like how the irish are, cliches kind of thing, and then he also compares to other countries, mostly americans a lot, and then at the end he just says, follow me, I'm delicious, right, but it's uh, he does on these rants and they're, I just love them, like they're the like, yeah, and but he, he embodies a lot of that because he, the one bit where he was talking about how like the irish people, because you were saying how friendly they are and everything, but he's like you know there's a. Uh, an irish guy yelling at his kids will use lots of curse words and he does this whole thing where he's like. You know there's a particular curse word that he likes to use that I won't say on air, but it is what it is, but uh, it starts with a c oh yeah, they really get away with that in the uk.

Speaker 2 3:14

Yeah, it's a big word, it's a big word.

Speaker 3 3:17

So he and he did this whole thing about how like this is what it sounds like with an irish parent um yelling at uh at his kids, and then he was like and this is an american parent. He's like now jimmy, you didn't disappoint me, it was really great.

Speaker 1 3:31

I'm not as good, as did you ever know that if you go into google there are do's and don'ts like you can say what are the do's and don'ts in this country, like when I go?

Speaker 3 3:38

and travel to like.

Speaker 1 3:39

Ireland and like so, ireland, it's like, don't bring up leprechauns. It like says that politely, you know it's kind of irritating. Yeah, I had a long conversation with someone. You obviously didn't consult Google, did he? Yeah, I was in like this ira asking.

Speaker 3 3:57

I was in this ira where they were this is a bar that I was told when I first walked in. You had to speak irish to get in it and I was told not to say a word until I was introduced. And that I was told that I was from canada and I ended up talking this guy and this guy gave me like a lesson, like a history lesson on ireland and he talked about leprechauns and like where the lore came from, everything the the IRA guy talked about leprechauns.

Speaker 2 4:18

Sure did At the end of it he was just like and then just ran away.

Speaker 1 4:23

Wow yeah.

Speaker 3 4:29

Anyway, but no, it was an awesome conversation. He did talk about leprechauns. There you go.

Speaker 2 4:35

Well, hey, you can't.

Speaker 3 4:36

You probably just can't go up to him and say like where are your lucky charms?

Speaker 2 4:38

Yeah, but maybe it's like an AI thing Like Google just like ran through an AI to be like what?

Speaker 3 4:43

are your do's and don'ts?

Speaker 2 4:45

Yeah, the computer assumed you're not supposed to talk about leprechauns.

Speaker 1 4:55

Yeah, but you know, maybe it's ingrained there a little bit easier than it is here. It says so don't be turned off by the cursing and swearing.

Speaker 2 5:01

I hear in like England, you're supposed to be okay with people like peeing on the street a lot more as well.

Speaker 1 5:08

Oh really, we're supposed to just kind of let that slide to an extent that we wouldn't do here.

Speaker 2 5:13

But again. I'm an ignorant, an ugly Canadian as they say.

Speaker 1 5:17

I don't say you're ignorant, so we should go with you now, but you guys just went on a trip to Ireland.

Speaker 2 5:23

That's big it was awesome.

Speaker 1 5:25

It was a trip of a lifetime. Yeah, I'd be happy to be back too. But yeah, so the great Lunenburglary. I have a hard time with that word.

Speaker 2 5:34

That's fair Lunenburglary, but it's a great play on words, though I originally wanted to call it Schooner Schemers, which is even harder to pronounce For folks who aren't familiar with the town of Lunenburg in Nova Scotia. Well, schooner Schemers is a bit more universal but at the same time having a book that has Lunenburg right on the title looks great in a Nova Scotia bookstore.

Speaker 1 5:56

Yeah, it does. That's true, Right, and this is a comedy book on it for the casual reader.

Speaker 2 5:59

Yeah, it is. Yeah, yeah, it's just a silly kind of like I feel like I really, as I was writing it, I was like I want somebody who has read like five books since high school to be able to pick this up. Read through it and have a nice time and not feel intimidated by the idea to be able to pick this up. We'll read through it and have a nice time and not feel intimidated by the idea that sounds like my jam right there Great. No, and this is it?

Speaker 1 6:27

You were complimented by some pretty renowned at least Nova Scotia or Canadian renowned, including Leslie Choice, that's right, I do have a quote from Leslie Choice.

Speaker 2 6:36

What did he say? He said a nice thing he said a knee-slapping Nova Scotia tale that has the mark of a legendary Blue Nose storyteller, while adding a contemporary twist that will keep you wide-eyed and entertained through the most harrowing Nor'easter and what did the guy for 22 minutes say about how the funniest book since? He says, the funniest maritime book since Anne of Green Gables.

Speaker 3 6:58

Move over, lucy, that's bob kerr writer of uh 22 minutes that was a great as everyone knows that you know the, the comedy that anna green gables is. Oh yeah, there's some funny stuff, yeah they drink the raspberry cordial or whatever.

Speaker 1 7:13

Yeah, yeah um, still very popular in pei. If you've been there they can still buy it in some some like as a tourist drink oh for sure, oh yeah, it's fun.

Speaker 2 7:20

My favorite quote that I got on it is, uh, not particularly accurate about 1920s radio, but totally accurate about lockport, nova scotia boo, by professor ken scott, author of on our wavelength a broadcasting history from a canadian perspective. Okay, I got a professor to say that.

Speaker 1 7:40

So this is the first book you've written by yourself, basically.

Speaker 2 7:43

By first book of all time.

Speaker 1 7:45

So cool that's some pretty high praise for a first book, man. Thank you yeah.

Speaker 2 7:50

Well, thank you for that praise on the praise. Yeah it was. I had some people in my Rolodex to ask, and then the publisher asked a couple people as well and yeah, no, I feel good about it.

Speaker 3 8:05

What kind of inspired? Because I mean and we will talk a little bit more about the history of things that you've done in the past but what inspired you? You know, like first of all, you have to be inspired to write a book and then, second of all, you have to be inspired to write this particular story. Like what? What kind of drew you to both of those?

Speaker 2 8:22

um, I mean, I originally was like this idea would be good as something yeah and then it was like oh, no one would fund this as any kind of anything. So if it's a book, then even if nobody ever publishes it, I can publish it. And it's a book, then even if nobody ever publishes it, I can publish it and it's done. It's like I don't need to get people to rehearse this and put it up on the stage.

Speaker 1 8:47

So this was a show in your mind of some sort, was it?

Speaker 2 8:49

In my mind. I kind of thought of it as like a movie or like maybe like going way back my original idea for it. I wanted to do something about history. For a long time. My first idea was a movie about, um, so a world war two platoon that wants to lose their virginity before the war is over. I had that real that well, ran dry pretty fast. Um, and then after that I was like I was in Nova Scotia, back in Nova Scototia, uh, during the pandemic, and my thought was trailer park boys but with rum running like in that era okay.

Speaker 2 9:29

And then it kind of led me to this, which is, um, teens stealing the blue nose, yeah, and there are some like rum runners and like bootleggers and stuff, and it's set in the 1920s. So it's like, yeah, yeah, that kind of era. But it's like you know, when you think about, oh, I would love to do that as a tv show or movie, you're like, okay, everybody's gonna wear period costumes and it's on a boat and there's a big bunch of people, and it was just, it was never gonna happen. So as a book, you can, couldn't have anything happen.

Speaker 3 10:00

So for our listeners, the book fiction, nonfiction, nonfiction with a little bit of fiction One million percent.

Speaker 2 10:07

Fiction, one million percent.

Speaker 1 10:08

They steal the blue nose man. It's like teenagers steal the blue nose.

Speaker 2 10:10

It's about teenagers steal the blue nose, that could have actually happened.

Speaker 3 10:13

It could have, it easily, could have happened right.

Speaker 2 10:15

That's what it makes. Yes, this could have happened, right. That's what it makes.

Speaker 3 10:18

yes, what if we have a blue nose?

Speaker 2 10:19

too.

Speaker 1 10:20

It's true, we don't know where number one is. They're still out there with number one.

Speaker 2 10:26

Yeah, they could be.

Speaker 3 10:27

There you go. That's what we think is like all the ghost ships and stuff. Good call yeah those teenagers are now 90.

Speaker 1 10:43

Well, yeah, I assume that they're dead by now, for sure.

Speaker 2 10:44

Yes, so was it hard writing in the 1920s, getting your head in that mind space dude. Yeah, I'll be honest, it's a very cartoon version right of the 1920s. The reason why it was fun to write in that time is it's like um, I'll go off on a bit of a tangent if that that's, we don't mind in this drinking podcast if I go off on a bit of a tangent.

Speaker 1 11:01

This tangent was brought to you by Blue Moon.

Speaker 2 11:06

Right before writing this book, I had been working on a series for Audible that didn't wind up happening.

Speaker 2 11:13

It was two friends of mine and I wrote this series about Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig on a road trip together Okay, when they got stranded on the West Coast and had to make their way back together and there were nine episodes and each one was like an inning. Anyway, it was set in the 1920s, Very shortly before we went to production we've been paid to do the scripts, We've done multiple drafts. They were like, hey, we're actually not paid to do the scripts, we've done multiple drafts. They were like, hey, we're actually not going to do it. And then it turned out that a Saturday Night Live writer had a show with them about Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig at the same time and so obviously you're going to pick the famous guy's Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig show instead of mine.

Speaker 2 12:24

But my mind was kind of like, set in that old timey frame creatively and it's just fun because you can. Kind of it makes it a cartoon world in a way where, like anything can happen.

Speaker 1 12:36

A little more of a sandbox.

Speaker 2 12:37

Yeah, you can, you can. A big part of the book is about like a radio host and them being on the radio and like there's like the bootlegging, like gangster guy, just stuff that like if you put in now it just would be you couldn't do it quite as silly. I think something about making it old timey gives you license to just be like stories in themselves.

Speaker 1 13:00

I mean having probably more of a challenge right Since mobile phones came out Exactly. I think of that all the time when you're watching movies, even the last Scream. You got the house phone. Yeah, it just works. That wouldn't work as well with a cellular phone, it is true.

Speaker 3 13:13

Sometimes you watch old movies and things like that, or even old TV shows where you're on the fringe of maybe, where you're sometimes thinking, just call them on your cell phone.

Speaker 2 13:25

It's like, oh, wait a second, yeah, yeah, just look that up another thing that they always do in old movies that just wouldn't work now is when they're like you have to do this or I'm gonna tell the newspaper, and then the people are like well all right, whatever you want.

Speaker 2 13:38

Nowadays would be like I'm gonna tell the newspaper and they'll be like all right, go ahead, I'm just gonna go to my own newspaper and say that it's fake yeah, no one cares more of a threat to say like I'm gonna make a post about it yeah, all right, just go for it, yeah, I mean now you had some really good writing experience too.

Speaker 1 13:54

I mean, I think, fun writing experience like with beaverton I have written for the beaverton.

Speaker 2 13:58

Yeah, that's a fun. I mean, yeah, I love them. I love they're great reading them yeah, I years, I mean they're super cool.

Speaker 3 14:04

Um, that's something I've always wanted to do too. Is is like write satire. It'd be fun.

Speaker 2 14:08

I'll give you. I'll give you some email addresses off air, if you want to pitch to the Beaverton.

Speaker 1 14:14

Oh yeah, cool.

Speaker 2 14:15

Yeah, no, they're, they're great. I got involved with them, my friend Miguel, who hosted the TV version of the Beaverton. They were doing a live show with all the cast of the TV show and some of the writers, and he brought me in to do some kind of a character. I forget much of the details, but I was on their live show and I met the guys through that and then I started pitching some articles. I'm happy with the ones that I got on there. Um, it's a funny, it's a funny site there's a couple articles mentioned on your website.

Speaker 1 14:51

What were they? They're like a couple of the headlines.

Speaker 2 14:53

My favorite one that I've ever done for them is uh rich dad.

Speaker 1 14:56

Green lights independent film there was a woman nova scotia walking into.

Speaker 2 15:02

Oh yes, uh, nova scotia voted best place in the country to walk into the sea and end it all and I like that dark, beautiful property brothers can't repair relationship with property dad it was a few greats, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 15:18

And then the. And then you also wrote for like a book. I mean, uh, my stepdaughter was obsessed with the Meatball show.

Speaker 2 15:25

Oh, the Clyde of the Chance of Meatball TV show, really yeah, I've never heard of Love for the Show.

Speaker 1 15:30

I know the movies were Probably more the movies Fair enough, but it's just everything kind of spun off, yeah, so if it was of the multiverse of the meatball, hey you know what was super cool?

Speaker 2 15:42

Yeah, hey, you know what was super cool. The coolest part of that was we got notes, quote unquote from the directors of the movie, who are Miller and Lord, who also did the Lego movie, but more personal to me, Clone High was them.

Speaker 1 15:59

Okay. That was like an adult cartoon In the early 2000s. I remember that, just the greatest in like the early 2000s, that is like. I remember that, like, oh, like just the greatest. The main character in that, abe lincoln, you're right voiced by will forte. Yes, yes, okay, I know I watched it. Yeah, yeah, I just can't remember I watched that dvd until it melted.

Speaker 2 16:19

but uh, the coolest part was that those guys gave like notes on the episodes, but in the notes were like we don't have time for this, it's fine. We're making a Han Solo movie right now, don't worry about it but it was cool, just to know that my name was in a PDF and an email attached to those guys.

Speaker 3 16:37

That's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 16:40

And then you did a lot of cool stuff. I'm looking at your story there. This comedy duo, I With this comedy duo.

Speaker 2 16:46

I was a comedy duo, yeah, so you and this, it was slam poetry. It was a slam, okay, yes, there is a bit of a long walk to how we got to there. Okay walk me through it, man. Okay, so this is another thing that Gen Zs will not understand. The thing that Gen Zs will not understand. But it used to be that sketch comedy was something that you did at a live venue?

Speaker 2 17:10

Yes, it was not just a thing that you would be like. What if the headline would say a guy doing this, and then you would film a couple examples on your phone and that was it Right Not to go off. I'm deep into my pint. I'm going off.

Speaker 3 17:24

No, no, that's okay. Do you want another one?

Speaker 2 17:26

yeah, yeah, let's, let's, let's keep this going um but um, so I was in like a sketch troupe in toronto called the boom and it was like 10 of us and we had a monthly show at this place called the supermarket, and then we moved to the drake, to the Drake Hotel. We would just go up and do these like wacky scenes once a month and it was 10 of us and the shows were like sold out, being hammered. Every time it was a big party with like sketch comedy, super fun. But you can't be a 10 comedy team and expect that to become anything like this you can't split the money 10 ways.

Speaker 2 18:08

You can't tour with 10 people etc.

Speaker 3 18:10

Etc.

Speaker 2 18:10

Right, uh, so it makes it harder, at least yes, and it was also right at that time where it's just like canada now, we make like one tv show a year yeah, if it's not you, then try again next year, yeah, if you're not, corner, yes, or convenience, yeah, yeah so, anyway, nothing really happened with it.

Speaker 2 18:31

One of the guys in it was really legitimately into slam poetry and me and hannon this woman who was in it uh, made fun of him behind his back for quite a bit really, until the two of us decided, hey, we're going to show you just how stupid this is by doing this, this sketch of the two of us calling ourselves definition of knowledge, because it was the most pretentious name we could think of and we did this like slam poetry kind of stuff, and then we spun off into our own two-person what does she have?

Speaker 1 19:02

she had on her t-shirt, she had a.

Speaker 2 19:04

T-shirt that said Gentrify this and there was an arrow down to her crotch.

Speaker 1 19:08

And then I had a big shirt that was a bunch of dollar signs on it that I found I saw one of the promotional posters where you guys would look like from the Belly soundtrack, Like if you remember this.

Speaker 3 19:19

So DMX and.

Speaker 1 19:20

Nas made a really big hip-hop movie. This is probably the year 2000,. I think it was the year 2000,. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, and you guys did that for your promotional photos. It was just freaking hilarious.

Speaker 2 19:30

We did that exact thing. It was for our album cover, yeah, yeah. No, we had a great like. It's something that, like I think, ran its course.

Speaker 1 19:40

And.

Speaker 2 19:40

I love her.

Speaker 1 19:41

You guys did it for eight years we did it for a long time and we did we had some great opportunities.

Speaker 2 19:46

Like we, we went to la, we like I thought this was a prank, but we got an email and I'll say who cares? Um, we got an email for that. I was like this has to be a prank, but it was from naomi odenkirk he's like bob odenkirk's wife also his manager and like bill hater's manager, etc. Etc. He was like, hey, I've heard about this like wacky comedy show. You guys are Bob Odenkirk's wife, also his manager and, like the haters, manager et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 2 20:05

He was like hey, I've heard about this like wacky comedy show you guys are doing up in Toronto. Would you ever want to come to LA? And like talk? And so, yeah, we went down there and we were doing some shows for her. We were doing cool LA shows. We had a meeting with her where she was like look, love you guys, but I'm not going to do anything in Canada. You have to move down to LA if you want me to do anything with you.

Speaker 2 20:30

And we were just like we spent all our money on this visit. So anyway, that's who knows if we keep that in the show or not, but that was a cool opportunity. We did fringe festivals, we did Austin Sketch Fest, we did a lot of festivals throughout the states and canada had a wonderful time. And she, she went on. She starred in the show on crave called bria mac gets a life oh cool, she's one of the co-stars on that. She's in um the boys. She's in what we do in the shadows. She's in the show the boys yeah, wow, I've watched every episode.

Speaker 2 21:02

Yeah, she's in there she's in the the fire starter remake okay no, she's, she's crushing it I, I have nothing but love for her. But I wound up leaving the city and, um, but yeah, we would like much of our comedy duo stuff was like she's a black woman, I'm a white guy, of course, yeah, she would say something crazy and I would be like, uh, I don't know if that's right, and then the audience would get uncomfortable, not knowing who to side with was most.

Speaker 3 21:30

Uh, I love that kind of like uh, colin and michael from snl before that kind of that's right, yeah, yeah, love those guys.

Speaker 2 21:38

Yes, we did uh, a lot of similar. There was a poem called like my chocolate body where she would do this like body affirmation thing about being a black woman but like get mad at me when I was like I don't know if I should be doing this and she's like no, you have to, and I was like okay, like.

Speaker 1 21:53

So you did like my vanilla body. No, no, we said the same stuff. We said the same stuff at the same time you said yeah, yeah, I had to. She was like you have to do it.

Speaker 2 22:00

And then the audience would be like I don't know if we wanted to or not it was all playing with. That's awesome. It plays good with a live audience, because everyone's just sitting on their hands like, do we like this, do we not like it? And that uncomfortable middle is where we played around a lot, but I people love that everyone loved it.

Speaker 3 22:19

I think everyone loves that stuff.

Speaker 2 22:20

We we did really well. Was any of this taped or filmed? Can I watch it? The tape is bad because it's like it's one of those things where it's like it's filmed from the back of the room. The audio sucks and it's whatever, whatever, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we pitched it around as a TV show. It seems like you could do a little sketch thing Like.

Speaker 1 22:38

I mean, I'm a big still a big sketch comedy fan. I used to love going. We had Picnic Face here in Halifax if you remember, those guys were fantastic.

Speaker 2 22:48

I love all those guys.

Speaker 1 22:49

You'd go to one of those shows live, though, and you'd cry laughing. Yes, that was the difference when you saw it live. You just understood the absurdity in the room at the moment, and they were so quick and they were so. Everyone was feeding off each other's energy, and it was just something else, right?

Speaker 2 23:05

Every single one of them Like I mean.

Speaker 1 23:07

Mark Little is like one of the best.

Speaker 2 23:09

One of our best as far as Canadian comedians is concerned, A hundred percent.

Speaker 3 23:13

Now, I like the two and they ended up going to Mr D, like a couple of them from Picnic Face. Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 23:17

Yeah, we were we would do stuff with them in Toronto all the time, Like it was it was cool.

Speaker 1 23:24

Some people you ever watch that show. Um, I think you should leave with Tim Robbins on Netflix.

Speaker 2 23:27

I think that's fantastic.

Speaker 1 23:30

You don't like it.

Speaker 2 23:32

Uh, it's not that I don't like it.

Speaker 3 23:34

I don't like it nearly as much as he does. That's, I think, the thing I hear you.

Speaker 1 23:39

I don't know why I connect with that show so much, but I could watch almost so many of the sketches over and over again, laugh continuously. My partner, she, loves it too, so we can both throw it on together and just laugh.

Speaker 2 23:52

It's a good one.

Speaker 3 23:54

He sent it to me and was like dude, I think you just built it up to me. He was like this is the funniest thing you'll ever watch. It's the funniest funniest thing I've watched. And I was like it's not the funniest thing ever. It's funny. I love the Ghost Host Tour. I think that's probably the one I sent him. He loves that. That's my favorite one. There's tons of great ones.

Speaker 1 24:08

But the Ghost Host Tour is just so stupid it gets that specific thing and for people listening, the Tim Robinson Ghost Tour is basically he goes to a nighttime tour where you can say whatever you want, and he decides to say some overly explicit things while he's on this evening ghost tour with a bunch of kind of more respectable adults that don't really want to hear what he's saying.

Speaker 2 24:35

He gets very upset that they changed the rules. Have you seen Detroiters? Yeah, man, yeah, love Detroiters as well.

Speaker 1 24:42

Some of the best shows like that, shows like that, that.

Speaker 2 24:45

So I watched detroiters because of that netflix show and hopefully they bring that back, because that sam guy is really funny too he's great he's, uh, he's brilliant, brilliant guy, yeah no, I mean sketch comedy is one of those things that it's kind of a lost art form in a way. I think tim robinson is keeping it alive, but it's like it's an art that lost is wrong. It's an art form that has changed a lot, to the point where I don't quite get it.

Speaker 1 25:11

I don't what it is now, and that's not, and that's not on anybody that's on me, like I know, but you watch harry night live now and it's a. It's a lot more hit or miss than it was.

Speaker 2 25:20

Uh, I feel like everybody, depending on their age, says that right, no, there's the people, our parents would be like when joe piscopo left it started to suck yeah for us it's like we will farrell left.

Speaker 3 25:31

It suck yeah I think that everybody's personally I I'm saturday night live to me was like 1990 to 96, right six. Those were like the 96.

Speaker 1 25:41

We were so young then. Like because will farrell started coming on the scene?

Speaker 3 25:43

then he was doing some good stuff, then that kind of thing, right. But it was like they lost a lot of the real heavy hitters by 96. I love Sandler and Spade and Rockwell.

Speaker 1 25:51

They were on that, yeah, but that was 93, 94,.

Speaker 2 25:54

right, okay, yeah, that's his golden era, for sure. I think the thing with sketch comedy now is that I think I mean I'll go off on this, I'm Professor Sketch Comedy.

Speaker 1 26:05

I'm a pint team, let's go in.

Speaker 2 26:07

I think Chappelle Show changed the game.

Speaker 1 26:10

Yeah, okay, for better or for worse.

Speaker 2 26:12

For better, but it changed the game in the way that, like what he would do, thank you. He would tell you what the premise of the sketch was off the top.

Speaker 1 26:25

Right.

Speaker 2 26:25

He would do a monologue where he was like I was thinking you know what if real life was like a video game? Whereas on Saturday Night Live the show, the sketch begins and it's like we gradually find out that real life is like a video game. He tells you this is the premise and then the sketch is examples of that premise.

Speaker 3 26:41

Right.

Speaker 1 26:43

And that moved the ball forward. And I think he just had to do that to kind of give himself a bit of a safety net, because this shit he was doing was so extreme it was crazy right it was it was new for the time.

Speaker 2 26:52

He was ahead of his time right yeah, I mean, I think that's that's, that's a dvd set that I would say that anybody our age like all of our roommates have added if we didn't have it we all had it, that's.

Speaker 1 27:03

I remember sitting there watching it around with my friends when we got, like the, the third season came out, which was like two episodes, a couple and and darnell and uh, what's uh eddie murphy's charlie murphy, and I thought charlie murphy was brilliant, amazing and darnell, uh, darnell, like I saw him just for laughs a couple years ago, don Donnell.

Speaker 2 27:22

Donnell Donnell Williams. I want to say I forget his last name, Rollins Donnell.

Speaker 1 27:27

Rollins yeah, maybe I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 27:29

If I'm wrong, then put a disclaimer in.

Speaker 1 27:31

No, you're saying the name wrong, but I don't know it either, so that's okay, because I'm terrible with names.

Speaker 2 27:35

That other guy.

Speaker 3 27:37

I saw him do live stand-. I'm actually surprised he hasn't called you Brian yet you would not be the first.

Speaker 1 27:42

You won't be the last Rollins, though I think his last name was Rollins or Rollins. Okay, so he was the reason I found the Kill Tony podcast, because he was kicked off of it and I was listening to Charlamagne. Tha God Yep.

Speaker 3 27:56

You know that guy from Hotline 7.

Speaker 2 27:57

No, I know that and I was listening to them. They were.

Speaker 1 27:58

And I was listening to them and they were talking about the fallout that he had on that show. He left because they were kind of making fun of him and he got mad and he left in the middle of the episode. So I went to go listen to that episode and I said wait a second. There's a podcast dedicated to comedians getting up for one minute and then getting eviscerated by other comics. This is ridiculous. That's tough stuff. You watch it.

Speaker 2 28:20

No, or listen't, do that. No, comedians being in front of each other. I'm in a number of group chats about that.

Speaker 1 28:28

And I couldn't.

Speaker 2 28:29

I would never want to see that displayed publicly because it's mean.

Speaker 3 28:34

It's brutal, it's ruthless.

Speaker 2 28:36

Some of the absolute meanest group chats and we have certain people that we pick on and it is really so sad stuff is filmed in texas, yeah, and so they've all moved, like it's the mothership right, it's all attached to, like joe rogan's and all that stuff yeah, so they're very.

Speaker 3 29:12

They go pretty hard in the paint. I believe it. Um, and it is, it's, it's basically. It is like I would say that, don't get me wrong, I love it. I have a dark sense of humor, but it is definitely the group chat you don't want to get out aired.

Speaker 2 29:29

Couldn't handle it. I personally couldn't handle it. When I'm saying those kinds of things, I need to know that it's a secret.

Speaker 3 29:37

Yeah, I'm the same.

Speaker 1 29:38

I have a dark sense of humor, but I like to keep it real close to my chest and you still do stand up yourself. You were doing stand up. You know what?

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Speaker 2 29:45

no, I did stand up for a little bit as like a teen basically, and it's just. I never. I'm not great at it. It's something that I'm not naturally very good at. I don't the structure of it I've got a lot of deep, like some of my best friends are stand ups. I've got a lot of deep, like some of my best friends are standups. I've got a lot of deep respect for it. It was the kind of thing where I think I've done it like 50 times in my life. I wasn't getting that great at it, I did, wasn't getting a lot of enjoyment out of doing it and you know those rooms that that stage time it was like I'm taking this away from somebody who really wants to be up on the stage.

Speaker 2 30:25

So I'm gonna step aside and let somebody who cares get better instead of me just like wanting to hang out with my friends. And you know, I was in a situation where to hang out with your friends, you have to go to the friggin fox and fiddle across from the hooters and we're all doing the open mic and like I'm either hanging around there watching other people do stand-up, so I may as well do it too, but it's just kind of like I don't want to do this, yeah, but again, not because I don't like it or I think that there's anything wrong with it.

Speaker 2 30:51

I just it, just if it's not I love this thing for you.

Speaker 3 30:54

it is not for you. When you see I love stand-up comedy, I can't, I can't like I can't do it, I don't think I could do it.

Speaker 1 31:01

I've tried it, if you love it and want to do it.

Speaker 2 31:03

I think it's the repetition. That's the thing I think people don't get about. It is that they're like oh, I couldn't do it. The reason you couldn't do it is because you have to be doing it twice a night for four, bleeping three years before you're okay and even then you might not be great.

Speaker 1 31:22

So before bleeping like three years before you're okay, 100%, yeah. And even then you might not be great Like it's almost 10 years until most of these guys can really kind of start cutting through and getting, and that's only if you're actually truly kind of creative.

Speaker 2 31:34

If it's truly for you, there's certain people who I see do at Friends of Mine, like keith pedro is a friend of mine, or dylan gott. Like people who, like you, see them up on the stage, or these canadian comedians you see them up there, uh, steph tolov. Like people who you're, just you watch them do it and you're like this person is like made to.

Speaker 1 31:53

They belong there. This is this is.

Speaker 2 31:55

It took them a while to figure it out, but like this is their. This is what they should be doing with their life.

Speaker 3 32:01

Yeah.

Speaker 2 32:02

And yeah, if you're not that person, then somebody else is and you're taking away their opportunity to become that?

Speaker 3 32:08

Yeah, I never thought it was like some people just need to find their their like, find their timing in their voice, right, cause that's a big thing of comedy is like all three of us could say the exact same two sentence joke and it come off very differently based on their cadence and you know the way we kind of like our voice and stuff like that too and your own experience I think that's the the mistake that a lot of comedians make when they get started not mistake a lot.

Speaker 2 32:32

A big part of being on the way to developing your comedy voice is just being like hey, here's something about a movie that I thought was funny. Or like, hey, here's something funny that I saw on TV or whatever. But to become the real, to really develop your own comedy voice, it's got to be like what is it about me? What does my experience bring to this? That's different and that takes a long time to develop.

Speaker 3 32:58

Good way to put it. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 33:00

Hey, I studied under. I studied under. I went to a community college course in comedy writing and performance.

Speaker 1 33:07

You did a community college. There's a community college course in comedy In Toronto.

Speaker 2 33:12

Wow, at 17 years old I moved from Lunenburg to Etobicoke to take this community college course in comedy, writing and performance. At that time time it was a very hell's angels dominated neighborhood. Okay, it was a rough, crazy, crazy time in my life uh, and how old were you then?

Speaker 1 33:32

I was 17. Oh wow, that's young. Like, yeah, like you obviously were pretty headstrong dude getting into that.

Speaker 2 33:38

Uh, it was like I was going to go do something crazy and the fact that there was school attached to it was like my parents would be like, all right all right, go to school.

Speaker 1 33:48

I'm going to clown college. Mom, you can't stop me. What are you going to do about it?

Speaker 2 33:53

So yeah, it was some of the wildest things I've ever seen or done in my life happened there.

Speaker 3 34:06

And, yeah, there was a hell's angels bar right across the street and I was 17 and they were like underage drinking is like the least of the crimes that happens here. So come on whatever man and uh, yeah, let's be honest, underage drinking is probably the least of the crimes happening anywhere?

Speaker 2 34:13

yeah, but in a bar though it's a crime, but they were like whatever, um, yeah, it was fun. Um, and yeah, I said like I studied under like um, larry horowitz. Uh, this, this woman, robin duke, who had been on saturday night live in the 80s was my sketch teacher whoa uh, joe flaherty from sctv?

Speaker 3 34:32

oh no, he is. Yeah, he did some his brother, dave flaherty, lesser known, okay, but insane.

Speaker 2 34:39

Like an insane person, but one of those like crazy people where you're like flaherty, though, was in maniac man.

Speaker 3 34:45

Yes, he was right. Yeah, that's right, yeah, yeah no, he's he, he was out. He was a fly, right?

Speaker 2 34:51

yeah, yes, yeah, no, he's, he's, he's rip uh, but like man, what a? I just uh like they picked this lady, picked this guy off of the street and put him in front of a classroom full of students.

Speaker 3 35:05

That's awesome.

Speaker 2 35:06

My God, I loved that.

Speaker 3 35:07

That was an underratedly good Canadian show Absolutely. That was like a little bit dark, and I think people just weren't quite ready for it at its time.

Speaker 2 35:15

No, canada has like some shows that are like either this is trash or this is like so weird that it's maybe one day.

Speaker 3 35:23

Honestly, I almost feel like if that show aired today it might actually have gotten a following more than it did like the early 90s or whatever it was when it was on.

Speaker 1 35:31

I'd love to have two more points. That's right. It's based on a video game. That's right. I'd love to have two more points. That you bring and rate canadian shows, trash or uh number number one trash and best murdoch mysteries so you love murdoch. Mysteries?

Speaker 2 35:44

oh, yeah, yeah it's our family matters okay, in that it's we're on season 18. We're well beyond the point of any of the stories making any sense. There are jet packs there are laser guns there's a spin-off show about going back in time. They're like, they're like I've never watched the show every fit like charlie chaplin has been a murder suspect um james naismith, the inventor of basketball has been a suspect, so is he a time traveling mystery solver, no, but he has a great granddaughter who comes back to his time in the spinoff, macy Murdoch.

Speaker 2 36:21

Oh my.

Speaker 1 36:22

That blew my mind. It's wild. I thought this was like a dry like.

Speaker 2 36:27

That's what everybody thinks. But it's out to lunch.

Speaker 3 36:32

Very inappropriately named. I must say, Very inappropriately named.

Speaker 2 36:36

It's Murdoch and he's solving the mystery. Yeah, fair enough.

Speaker 3 36:40

I didn't realize it was a comedy. I guess I probably would have.

Speaker 2 36:42

It's not, it's not okay, no, it's dead serious, but like there's one more so they got jetpacks and they do this stuff. All deadpan he and Nikola Tesla invent a laser gun together and shoot somebody in the head and then escape.

Speaker 3 36:56

Episode how much lsd are the writers doing?

Speaker 2 36:59

I don't know it's a pure stream of consciousness.

Speaker 1 37:02

Show is nobody watching this show and they could just do whatever the heck they want.

Speaker 2 37:06

Do you think that's maybe the all of our grandparents are watching it and they just think it's great, it's wow, I it's. It's like there's an episode where somebody in it's like said in like 1910, yeah, this guy invents the internet with these like In 1910. Yes, with these like steampunky keyboard things with a sepia monitor Before the circuit. Yes, okay, they invent he invents this crazy internet thing and then, like somebody, immediately sends like a sepia toned dick pic on it.

Speaker 1 37:39

No way, and that's a clue to one of the murders.

Speaker 2 37:42

This show is nuts. And this is like four seasons ago and we're still going. Wow, I have just.

Speaker 3 37:53

I will watch this within the next week.

Speaker 2 37:56

There's one where, like Sir Wilfred Laurier, gets poisoned by a butter tart.

Speaker 3 38:04

That's very cliche Canadian, that's great.

Speaker 2 38:06

And there's always something where they're like drinking coffee instead of tea will never catch on. There's always some kind of a little thing like that it's nuts, it's nuts.

Speaker 3 38:17

Wow, jeez, I mean yeah, I mean I've never watched. I mean I'm I try to support canadian tv as much as possible it's difficult. I'm a big, big fan of corner gas, big fan of kim's convenience. Love jerry d, like mr d or whatever, like I'm having trailer park.

Speaker 2 38:34

Obviously I've never watched paw patrol, but yeah, I have a three-year-old and I've never watched paw patrol.

Speaker 3 38:39

How did you get away with that? He's never watched it. He's never watched it. We don't give him a lot of screen time. Okay, right, he gets very little.

Speaker 3 38:50

Oddly enough, he prefers reading and likes sitting down and books and stuff like that and everything. So he does like movies and things like that. But I think because we prolonged the screen time for this amount of time and we were and even when he does have it, we're very strict about it um, he uh, yeah, he doesn't ask for too much. He's actually managed. He loves star wars, okay. So he's watched a lot of. He's actually watched the original trilogy. He'll sit down, like at three years old, he'll sit and watch the original trilogy, right well, they're great, they are great and we often we watch road one as well.

Speaker 2 39:22

So we're four movies in and he's obsessed with darth vader oh yeah, obsessed, so it's so cool he goes around like I'm kind of a lapsed star wars fan I would say I, um, I've been getting, I've started watching and or, and I do, like I haven't watched that one yet. I found a lot of the Star Wars.

Speaker 2 39:42

Things are just too much for the fans in a way where I tried to watch the Boba Fett one and I was like I know who Boba Fett is, I should be able to understand this, no problem. And then the first episode. I was like I needed to have read novels and watched several animated series to follow what the fuck is going on.

Speaker 3 40:04

Boba Fett. I thought it was okay. Mandalorian was awesome. I really like Mandalorian. They kept it simple, though it's a good story. It's just in the universe, it's not like you don't have to know too much about it. It could actually also just not be Star Wars.

Speaker 1 40:22

Yeah, right.

Speaker 3 40:24

The other thing that, but Ahsoka was good I thought Ahsoka was good.

Speaker 2 40:28

I just, I don't know what that is. Yeah, so that's fine.

Speaker 3 40:33

But I mean they had Obi-Wan, which I thought was it was okay, it had its really good moments, and then some really dry moments.

Speaker 2 40:44

Yeah, like had some epically awesome moments.

Speaker 3 40:45

I watched the first episode of that one and was like okay, like there was, like flea was chasing a little girl through the woods and I was like the better stuff comes towards the end, when, like vader, like they really show vader's power, it had moments of like rogue one greatness, okay, but then it had some really like dry, really bad stuff, and we did like we all finished acolyte.

Speaker 2 41:02

Yeah, that's one more. It's like I don't know about anything. You know what the cool thing about?

Speaker 3 41:06

that though is you again it could, outside of the fact that it's based around jedi, it's like a. It's crazy. It's kind of a star wars like murder mystery. Okay, I, I liked it as a standalone and yeah hey, I keep giving Star Wars a chance.

Speaker 2 41:23

I'm watching Andor right now. I have been enjoying it. I've been watching it simultaneously with Secret Lives of Mormon Wives on Disney Plus going back and forth between the two, and they're both pretty dramatic. All those Mormon wives would support the empire, for sure.

Speaker 3 41:41

I haven't watched Andor, but I heard it's very. It's less action and very dialogue filled.

Speaker 2 41:49

I would say that that's true.

Speaker 3 41:50

Yeah, every so often you see a TIE fighter fly by and you're like, oh yeah, this is Star Wars, because that's like you would probably pay more attention to that, because that's kind of like you do that work right, the like you have to pay attention to dialogue um, it's not even that, it's like it's, it's uh well you said work, but you, we didn't even ask what you do on uh yeah, that's right. We talked about that on the show. We talked about that so your full-time job?

Speaker 2 42:15

you were a uh oh yeah, I do for work. I am a closed captioner and video describer. So you would actually really pay attention to stuff like that, and I've got to pay attention to the grammar and spelling and how to describe the sound effects.

Speaker 1 42:34

That must be the funnest bit the sound effects.

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Speaker 2 42:36

You know what I'm going to say this. This is very dry and no one's going to care. My opinion this is my hot closed captioning take. I think memes have ruined closed captions, Really. Yes, because so much of it now is like whatever intensifies the memes, people expect there to be a lot of stuff on the closed captions. The best closed captions are the ones that you forget are even there.

Speaker 1 43:03

Well, I mean today's world, everybody's watching closed captions.

Speaker 2 43:07

Yeah, but, like I think everybody has a certain expectation of them and the end user is supposed to be somebody who's hearing impaired and it should be, so they can seamlessly enjoy the show right that's the like number one end user.

Speaker 3 43:23

Yeah, you know what actually, I would actually challenge you on that. Okay, please, because there's another big user who's that? People who don't speak English.

Speaker 2 43:31

That's subtitles.

Speaker 3 43:32

Subtitles Subtitles and captions are different. That's right, sorry. Subtitles are no, you're right, sorry, sorry.

Speaker 2 43:39

Subtitles are no, you're right, sorry, I'm thinking subtitles and yeah, but yeah, right now, but they've started cheaping out, because you'll watch something on, like amazon, where they only have captions and not subtitles right, you'll be watching a foreign thing and they'll still have the in brackets, like yells or whatever, and it's like I know I can hear it right but, um the subtitles are simply supposed to be the text for a non-english speaker.

Speaker 2 44:02

Yes, a caption is something for a hearing impaired speaker and I feel like the internet has made people expect, okay, big descriptions of the sound effects. But if you can see a sound, if you can see an explosion on screen, in what way is explosion in brackets helping?

Speaker 3 44:20

you, it's not Right, right, right.

Speaker 2 44:22

Those are supposed to describe off-screen sound effects Explosion off-screen. Yeah, like a door opening behind the guy. Why is he turning it around? Because the door opened. That's the information you need to fill in.

Speaker 3 44:33

Okay, all right, so that's kind of the difference that brings boring boring take about accessible media.

Speaker 2 44:39

Okay.

Speaker 1 44:41

I like it though. All right, it gives people a good understanding. I mean, I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 44:45

Yeah, no, that's true, because here's the thing Someone like myself, where obviously I'm very privileged in the fact that I can just watch something yeah, right, I mean my wife, I've gotten used to subtitles because my wife, her mother tongue is not English, so I don't even see them anymore. Right, and that's perfect. Yeah, so I'm so used to it, everything but the um realizing that, yeah, like, that's kind of something that you're you know, it's a huge kind of assist for people trying to enjoy the show to the full ability that they can, where I just wouldn't even think of that, really, when I know, the, the, the closed captioners oath or whatever, is to make sure that somebody who can't hear understands everything that's happening.

Speaker 1 45:29

Right.

Speaker 2 45:30

And to me describing that the music is suspenseful or whatever doesn't matter to me personally, right.

Speaker 1 45:39

So music intensifies. I've seen that before.

Speaker 2 45:42

Yeah, you, you can do it, but it just doesn't really help you.

Speaker 1 45:44

I don't that that's a subtitle thing. Yeah like, yeah to me, and maybe they're just assuming I the listener as the volume turned off. I don't know yes, well places.

Speaker 2 45:54

Now don't want to pay for both subtitles and captions, so they just get one caption file and call that the subtitle yeah, because there's another described something visually impaired described.

Speaker 1 46:06

Yes, I do that as well. That's for people who are visually impaired. And how does that work?

Speaker 2 46:11

Well, that's like if you're visually impaired and you're watching a show, it's really to. If it doesn't interfere with dialogue, it's to give you visual information that you wouldn't be getting, so that this dialogue makes sense to you.

Speaker 1 46:26

So someone kind of says, like scrolling across the desert at night, Matt looks at Mike.

Speaker 2 46:31

Yes, A voice would come on and be like Matt comes in the door and so that way we hear Matt's voice.

Speaker 1 46:38

I've turned it on on my TV by accident before and it took me like an hour to figure that out. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 46:41

Yes, and so that when we hear matt's voice on my tv by accident before it took me like an hour. It's. It's crazy. Yes, if you don't want it then it's very inconvenient, yeah, but it really helped me in the writing of this book actually man would it ever?

Speaker 1 46:48

yeah, it makes sense, yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 46:50

There's a lot of times when I was writing the book where I was like, what visual information would a reader need for this? I was like, what's the right? What's the video description of this scene? And you just just very boringly be like they're in a room. It's like this is what the room is, these are the people who are there, and then go.

Speaker 1 47:07

So if you're still listening, writers, turn on your accessibility tonight and get some cool writing tips.

Speaker 2 47:12

It'll legitimately help you as a writer to absorb accessible media. Because closed captions should look visually appealing as well. It should be spaced out to be as easy easy to read as possible. Yeah, helped a lot.

Speaker 3 47:28

Visual description gives you all the information you need to enjoy a scene will help you a lot, so I have a better place than like lunenburg to be able to like kind of visually, like you know, like dialogue, visually kind of express a town in lunenburg it's beautiful.

Speaker 2 47:45

Yeah, there's something to look at everywhere. Yeah, absolutely everything's historic.

Speaker 3 47:49

It's a unesco yeah, whole town's unesco. Yeah, right, it's, yeah, it's, uh, it's a must, must visit it's beautiful, particularly in the summertime, but anytime really.

Speaker 2 47:58

Yeah, yeah, and there's a lot of, uh, a lot of silly stuff about it too.

Speaker 3 48:03

I think everyone is just in awe when they see the lunenberg academy for the first time yeah, and there's a scene in the book that takes place there and um the book launch.

Speaker 2 48:10

I think probably will have happened by the time this comes out, but it's going to be there too. When's the book launch? June 12th that's thursday, that's thursday, the day of, so this is, if you're listening, turn your car around, go straight to the. Ludenberg.

Speaker 1 48:24

Academy. Right now it's at 630, two nights. There you go, okay, chapter 27. Can I just say?

Speaker 2 48:30

the name of the title of this chapter. Read any chapter allowed. I titled every chapter and I put a lot of work into making them all fun.

Speaker 1 48:37

Just because it made me smile, right.

Speaker 2 48:38

Yeah.

Speaker 1 48:39

The back alley diddlers. Yes, that's right In this book there is a.

Speaker 2 48:46

A lot of this book is about, like the music scene in the old Ludenburg world Okay, where they they play thrash fiddle instead of thrash metal, because it's the 1920s yes, that's awesome and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and and. Tommy Diddler and his Diddlin' Fiddlers are a big band in the social music scene in this reality, and so they do appear later on in the book. So, yes, read any chapter title aloud and I'll explain it.

Speaker 1 49:13

I was reading the back. I just want to read this little bit from the top of chapter two. Okay, Lunenburg is built on the side of a steep hill that slopes into the harbor. It's as if the town itself is pushing you into the water. That's right.

Speaker 3 49:27

That's a great sentence. That sounds like something I would hear in a movie.

Speaker 1 49:32

That's such a great opening line.

Speaker 3 49:35

I was reading the back Before you showed up. I was reading the back and the way I was reading, I was reading it very movie voice-esque.

Speaker 2 49:41

Please.

Speaker 3 49:42

And I was reading it like that was reading. I was reading very like movie voice-esque please, and I was reading it like that and I was almost like picturing the words, like coming up almost like a star wars type of thing, you know. But I was thinking like like written old-timey kind of thing, like you know, in black and white, old-timey, kind of like scrolling up kind of thing, and that's how I was reading it and I know I'm gonna love this, because this is uh, this is totally my style of reading.

Speaker 3 50:04

Totally my style of reading Lie for lie.

Speaker 1 50:06

So it's for grade six. When a chapter ends on, this is the end of the chapter. I'm like yep.

Speaker 2 50:10

Oh yeah, yeah, I could read that part for sure.

Speaker 1 50:13

Yes, there's a part where Maybe if you want to read a part of the book. Hey man, we've never done a reading before.

Speaker 2 50:20

I'll do exactly the part that you just said Rick Angus Jr asked how do you know so many people from Lockport? Because Rick answered after a deep breath I'm from Lockport. Everyone gasped. If you were from Lunenburg and one of your good friends revealed that, you would gasp too, it would be a big enough cliffhanger to end a book chapter on.

Speaker 3 50:43

That's awesome, perfect, yeah, that is awesome.

Speaker 1 50:47

Have you ever I mean norm mcdonald were you a fan of norm mcdonald? Of course okay um, did you ever get a chance to read the book he wrote norm?

Speaker 2 50:54

mcdonald's memoir.

Speaker 1 50:54

No, it's on my list, man I tell you I I saw by accident today again also. I was. I was scoping you out, obviously a little bit today for this show, please. I fell on your goodreads page. What's funny about that is I could actually see like 96 of the books you read and you, I was.

Speaker 2 51:13

I was, I was active on there for a while before I thought I would be an author and I am like five stars and all this and I was looking at your rating.

Speaker 1 51:21

I'm like I wonder if this is one of the people he gave a bad rating to. So I was trying to see, because you had like one low rating and a bunch of I forget what it would have been.

Speaker 2 51:27

I stopped it like I was really active on letterboxd for a while okay, you're stuck in 2022. Yes, I've been actively reading since then, but I don't really rate things anymore.

Speaker 1 51:38

Oh, it's hilarious, but but anyways no it's just funny, but it was a door book dude. It's like he writes a memoir that is totally anything but a memoir the entire way through and he's just trolling you page for page and it is my absolute favorite comedy read baby my only. The only sad thing for me is that he never got a chance to do the audiobook oh, I know, because it would have been.

Speaker 2 52:00

It would have been a favorite to listen to I'm hoping to do an audiobook of this over the summer, but it's like, as it turns out, releasing a book on its own is incredibly hard.

Speaker 1 52:09

Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 52:10

So the audio one will have to wait.

Speaker 1 52:12

So are you booking a lot of shows around and stuff? I'm doing my best.

Speaker 2 52:15

I'm doing my best. I'm doing a lot of podcasts and stuff. I'm hoping to go back to Toronto at some point and do some. I've got the reading at June 12th today as my launch. I've got another one on August 2nd in Port Medway. Another one in the Le Havre books on August 12th and then there'll be more throughout hoping to do some Halifax ones, but it's like I live in Liverpool and that's the middle.

Speaker 1 52:43

But you have a partner that lives up here, or something you said to me. We're having some difficulties.

Speaker 2 52:46

We'll see if I still do. By the time this airs, cut that out.

Speaker 3 52:49

Hot take. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 52:53

Yeah, cool, but yeah, no, that's great man, and I mean we might know a couple of podcasts you could get on. You could get on. I love to, my wheels are turning away for you.

Speaker 2 53:02

I was on 30 Minutes on High.

Speaker 1 53:04

That was the one, one of the first ones we were going on. A little bit earlier I said, geez, you'd be perfect on that show. They're great guys. Yeah, I love those guys.

Speaker 2 53:13

Well, Bryant used to be in this group called Bring Back Swayzes that were in Toronto. Uh, yeah, go back with.

Speaker 1 53:20

Holy smokes, yeah, yeah, no, that's cool yeah. I was it was one of the guys I thought right away I said, geez, he'd be good on that show, and then uh, yeah, anyways.

Speaker 3 53:26

But but we talked about that.

Speaker 2 53:37

After man, for sure, yeah, but I mean I I, Sean Scarry, designed this cover. He's a graphic designer based out of Dayspring in rural Nova Scotia. I'm so proud of him. I don't know if I'm able to say so, but he is assistant art director on the new season of Trailer Park Boys and he's doing the trades as assistant art director as well. And his design business is just. His eye is just fantastic. He's the only guy who could have done this cover.

Speaker 3 54:06

I think it looks fantastic. Yeah, I think it does too. So I think it's eye-catching and I think people, I think through the tourist season, I think you won't have a problem selling that book.

Speaker 2 54:18

Fingers crossed Good luck. I'll be at the Lunenberg Craft Festival as well.

Speaker 1 54:24

Well, hey, whatever you got to do, right that's awesome.

Speaker 2 54:26

Yeah, I'll see you guys there. Yeah, you probably won't.

Speaker 1 54:30

No, I'm just joking. You might see us down. My wife and I go down.

Speaker 3 54:33

No, my wife and I we love going and my son we love going down to the South Shore.

Speaker 1 54:37

When's the Lunenburg Craft Festival? Mid-july, mid-july, yeah, yeah I'll be doing the some of the bridgewater farmers markets too, so, uh, I'll probably see it down. Oh yeah, for sure, I'll be sure to look out for it if I know I'm coming, we're actually, we're going to my wife and i're going to look in sun.

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Speaker 3 54:51

Are going to lunenburg this sunday actually. Oh heck, yeah, what's going on there? The uh, the ovens is doing some sort of special family day, beautiful yeah uh, hugely recommend rose bay general store. It's the best, so good, it is so cool. Yeah, like so cool. We we did gaff point uh just on mother's day. Yeah, it's one of my wife's and like I love it, but it's one of my wife's favorite hikes to kind of do around. So we did that on uh on mother's day and we stopped there and what a gem in the middle of nowhere so good.

Speaker 2 55:21

It used to just be, um, like an agency liquor store, like it was like nothing but man, it is so cool. It's a cafe now. Yeah, the the pizza there is fantastic the way they did the uh the liquor store there.

Speaker 3 55:35

It's like it's actually a truly nice liquor store. They have um all glass with wood framed like you it. It looks like you're opening like an.

Speaker 1 55:43

I don't know you're inside of it.

Speaker 2 55:44

Yeah, like exactly it rules. I will spout off about great places on SoShore anytime.

Speaker 3 55:51

Oh, yeah, they're great, so, yeah, so I, yeah, I think, I think, yeah, you can get those into places and stuff like that, get the eyes and so.

Speaker 1 55:59

Brent, I'll be looking for your episode on 30 Minutes on Highway when it comes out. I think those guys are a lot of fun, so that should be an interesting one. Yeah, but I think we should get into 10 questions.

Speaker 2 56:07

Let's do 10 questions, all right. I feel like this has been very unstructured, and I hope that— this is how it rolls man it's all good, all right, that's us.

Speaker 1 56:16

Okay, so 10 questions here. Great Lunenburgerly, please pick it up in stores on June 12th.

Speaker 2 56:24

Maybe in stores. Link to my website.

Speaker 1 56:26

I'll say Okay, definitely there Link will be in this episode description.

Speaker 2 56:30

We'll help you buy it, Maybe on the Indigo website too.

Speaker 1 56:33

Maybe through Bryn's trunk, but we'll find it, we'll find a way, okay.

Speaker 3 56:37

Yeah, you'll have fun.

Speaker 2 56:38

Okay, cool it's just fun guys, alright awesome.

Speaker 1 56:41

Let's get on to the questions here I'll do question one what's the one thing you can't live without? These are deep questions. I didn't mentally prepare you for this. One thing I can't love we'll take it. But that was weak. One word answer.

Speaker 2 57:05

I love one, all right no, but like, but like, I like seriously love, love, you know yeah, you're one of those people. Yeah, yeah, yeah you know I just like laughter, love living well, there you go.

Speaker 1 57:15

Funny, you say that I didn't get a chance. I have a joke for you after this. I didn't get a chance to say this, but actually, uh kudos, I'm putting out kind of a book that's warm and fun and good natured.

Speaker 2 57:25

Oh, thank you.

Speaker 1 57:25

Because that's not an easy thing to do.

Speaker 2 57:27

Yeah, that was something I kind of ran into when I was trying to find a publisher was everybody was like it's not really that sad yeah.

Speaker 1 57:34

Does anybody get murdered in it?

Speaker 2 57:35

Yes.

Speaker 1 57:36

That kind of thing and I love seeing good natured energy, good-natured murder, good-natured energy.

Speaker 3 57:42

There could be some fun murders or fun murders.

Speaker 1 57:45

one of the two?

Speaker 3 57:45

Yeah, all right, question number two. So outside of your book you can't pick your book. But other than that, what is your favorite book?

Speaker 2 57:55

My true answer is not fun, but it is.

Speaker 3 57:58

The dictionary.

Speaker 2 58:01

It is the autobiography of Malcolm X. X as told to alex haley is, I think, a essential read for absolutely everybody to understand, just like life in north america and uh, a really important story told straight from the source, and I truly love that book and reread it great answer.

Speaker 3 58:22

yeah, great answer, all right.

Speaker 1 58:25

If you had the power to write in another language, which would you choose? That's a heavy question. Thanks to Soheb for that question Hieroglyphics.

Speaker 3 58:35

Whoa, that's pretty much emojis. Yeah, hieroglyphics, all right.

Speaker 2 58:44

That'd be cool, right, if I sent you a note and it was like, hey, I'm gonna be a little bit late. Sorry, but it was like a bunch of eyeballs and cats.

Speaker 1 58:48

So quick with that. I would have been like japan. I would have done it. I would have just melted on that question.

Speaker 3 58:54

Yeah, that's great okay, uh, question number four. So in your story there are two friends, yeah, uh, and elias and angus jr. Yes. In the movie adaptation of your book, what actors would play those friends?

Speaker 2 59:09

that's tough because I've picked as I was writing it. I pictured it as like cartoon characters more than real people pick cartoon characters. Okay, um, that's even better okay, sure, the cartoon character that I guess would be, I think, elias, would be played by um bart simpson or dennis the menace, I guess. I want.

Speaker 3 59:29

I wish I would have wrote bart simpson, because I was going to give you bart simpson as an example.

Speaker 2 59:32

It was bart simpson or dennis the menace, and then angus jr would probably be played by um, a really nervous character, um, I want to say not huckleberry, um snagglepuss, the guy's always biting his fingernails.

Speaker 3 59:46

Um okay, all right, yeah, I'm gonna say, snagglepuss I was, I was gonna throw it a. An obscure one, say like doug oh doug.

Speaker 2 59:55

Doug is too sensitive. Doug is good, but who is doug from doug for the titular doug?

Speaker 1 1:00:01

I barely remember that His dog was Porkchop.

Speaker 2 1:00:05

He had a crush on Patty Mayonnaise. I don't remember my brother's birthday, but I know that. How old are you? 38.

Speaker 1 1:00:12

12. No.

Speaker 3 1:00:13

I'm just joking.

Speaker 1 1:00:16

No, he was 12 when you watched Doug, so maybe that one just missed me on the years that's me with.

Speaker 2 1:00:21

Pokemon, yeah that everybody loves it I can't stand Pokemon. No, when it came out I was like that's for babies.

Speaker 1 1:00:28

They'll hear solid rules. They'll hear solid yeah Awesome.

Speaker 3 1:00:31

Question number five.

Speaker 1 1:00:32

All right. What is something you still get excited for?

Speaker 2 1:00:38

I'm really I'm excited for I get excited for movies sometimes still I was really excited for the new um mission impossible. Last one was great, yeah. Yeah didn't quite live up to my excitement, but um was really excited for the new final destination which ruled I think when a new big movie comes out, I still did you see the new final destination?

Speaker 1 1:01:00

so good, yet so good.

Speaker 2 1:01:01

Is it good it?

Speaker 3 1:01:03

rules. Yeah, it was like.

Speaker 2 1:01:05

I want to see it. Oh my God, it's kind of a cliche classic, whatever right. It rules. Yeah, it's like the opening scene where everybody dies or whatever is just Is it the best one yet? Yeah, it's almost like one of the best movie scenes.

Speaker 3 1:01:21

It is so All right, but honestly name a more memorable moment in movie history for people in our age than the logs coming.

Speaker 1 1:01:29

Everybody knows the log truck.

Speaker 2 1:01:31

This is comparable.

Speaker 1 1:01:32

Yeah.

Speaker 2 1:01:33

I don't want to spoil it. I'll say there are parts in that movie where I was watching through my fingers.

Speaker 1 1:01:38

We might go see it this weekend.

Speaker 3 1:01:39

Go, okay, like it rules weekend, so go okay, like it. It rules all right. Cool, okay, all right all right question number six all right, so, oh, I like this. This is a yeah, this is a an interesting book question, so keep one, burn one oh, book burning. Okay, yeah, exactly yeah exactly, this is the bama question, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 1:02:02

Keep one or burn one? It's not that kind of question.

Speaker 3 1:02:06

Lord of the Rings or Game of Thrones.

Speaker 2 1:02:09

I'm going to blow everyone's mind right now. Don't care about either. Burn them both, whoa.

Speaker 3 1:02:16

Cheers to that, cheers to that, cheers to being brave enough to say that.

Speaker 1 1:02:19

Dude, I couldn't read either one of those books. And I'm not saying I'm not a big book reader, but I read, I do read. But I don't like it when it takes like 25 minutes for you to describe a ham sandwich.

Speaker 2 1:02:29

This is crazy. I'm not a Wizards and Castles and Dragons guy.

Speaker 3 1:02:32

I'm not big on that either. I don't like it that much.

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Speaker 1 1:02:34

I do like science fiction. I'm able to read science fiction Fair.

Speaker 2 1:02:39

I'm wrong, everyone else loves it.

Speaker 1 1:02:41

Philip K Dick books were, I could read anything that guy ever wrote I thought was cool and I could just page flip non-stop. But when it gets into the older fantasies I can't get into it at all, Any kind of fantasy stuff.

Speaker 2 1:02:51

I'm just kind of like Star Wars and stuff is technically fantasy too, but I mean. And even still, 90% of it does nothing for me. I'm more about give me these mormon wives?

Speaker 1 1:03:09

what is the drama between taylor and demian? I haven't watched this morbid show yet. What's the show you're referring?

Speaker 2 1:03:14

there's mormon wives on disney secret lives of mormon wives okay, so andrea's watching it.

Speaker 1 1:03:19

Okay, I know she's watching it, I just kind of leave the room like politely oh, you're missing some juice.

Speaker 2 1:03:24

Is this isn't good? I like it. Yeah, okay, I mean, they're just, they're trashy, you know I grew up.

Speaker 1 1:03:31

Uh, I never thought like a mormon wife would be trashy. I guess that's not how they're trashy.

Speaker 2 1:03:35

They are trashy did you like, for me a big part of growing up, a big tangent on your rapid fire thing.

Speaker 3 1:03:41

But um, that's all good growing up.

Speaker 2 1:03:44

For me, ultimate snow day, sick day starts with jerry springer well, yeah, followed by either sally, jesse rafael or ricky leg, and then we're getting into jenny jones jenny jones and maury poe, but like oh my god that you just go in that all that garbage. Oh yeah, you loved it into my veins. And the closest that we have now are these reality shows, and I would say that Mormon Wives really has the same kind of like cruelty.

Speaker 1 1:04:19

Like a.

Speaker 2 1:04:19

Springer Not quite. We'll never have Springer again, man.

Speaker 1 1:04:23

Springer, springer was crazy. They like a spring, not quite.

Speaker 2 1:04:23

we'll never have springer again, man, no, no, springer, spring energy was like, well, let's bring them out and then ring a boxing bell and two women punch each other. Oh yeah, we'll never. That's illegal now. But I mean, jenny jones is legal now too, like jenny jones. There was a guy named rude jude, yeah, who started on that show as somebody where they were like you used to bully me and now I'm hot, and they brought him on as the bully Right and he bullied the guest so hard that the audience loved it and they kept bringing him back to bully more guests. Isn't that insane. You would never do that again. Insane. But the Mormon Wives kind of captures that.

Speaker 3 1:05:01

Is it just that type of reality TV show that you like, or do you like the game show type of reality shows as well?

Speaker 2 1:05:08

I like it when somebody's like, when they're like you shouldn't have gone on TV. If you're going to go on TV, we're going to be really mean to you and you're going to realize it's going to get fucked up. That's what you get I watch some of the stuff.

Speaker 3 1:05:20

I watch the Circle and I watch Love is Blind. Yeah, but those are game shows. And there's a new one I can't remember the name of it, but it's some sort of. There's a wheel and they do all these games and it's a bunch of people who've already been on reality game shows.

Speaker 2 1:05:34

The Traitors.

Speaker 3 1:05:35

No, okay, but it's only had one season and so they bring them all from different shows. They bring them back and anyway. Basically, you play these games to try to get your name not on the wheel, but in the end the wheel just spins and then, if your name is picked, you're gone right.

Speaker 2 1:05:49

There's no voting or anything right.

Speaker 3 1:05:52

Super, catty super whatever yeah. My wife was watching it. I came in on, I think, episode three where I was just like, yeah, throw it on if you want kind of thing. Right, and I'll just do whatever I can while I'm watching it.

Speaker 2 1:06:03

Whatever, and uh, yeah to me if they're like, really mean to each other. If it's people who clearly don't like one another, uh, butting heads the whole time, there you go the mormon wives one. The end of the first episode is this girl gets arrested and then they're like cut to. 10 months later she's out of jail and pregnant. And I'm like I'm, in.

Speaker 1 1:06:28

You might sell me on this show. I might have to jump in on this one.

Speaker 3 1:06:31

Yeah, all right. Question number seven, speaking of the end of the world.

Speaker 1 1:06:37

Okay. So next question. So you might like this as a writer. If the earth is flat, what do you think? We're just theorizing. The earth is flat, okay. What do you think would happen when you reached the edge and kept going? So we could have the two Luna Burglary guys. So this is the next chapter in the book. Now, it's Great, luna.

Speaker 2 1:06:56

Burglary at the end of the world.

Speaker 1 1:06:57

Yeah.

Speaker 2 1:06:58

At world's end, at world's end Edge of the world? What? The world's end, the edge of the world. What happens when you get there? I think it's just a big mirror.

Speaker 3 1:07:07

Oh, kind of like Truman Show.

Speaker 2 1:07:09

Yeah, you get there and you just push on it and just a great big mirror Maybe there's a closet behind the mirror with some boxes in there.

Speaker 3 1:07:27

I read a song meme where it said that if the earth was flat, cats would have knocked everything off by now.

Speaker 1 1:07:30

Okay, that's a good one, yeah okay, your turn.

Speaker 3 1:07:33

Question number eight. So what is the best thing and the worst thing that's happened to you this year, in 2025?

Speaker 2 1:07:43

uh, best thing I guess would be getting this book published. That makes a lot of sense, congratulations. Thank you very much. Worst thing, um, probably not going to talk about on the air that's what's happening uh, currently it's ongoing okay, okay, Understood Ongoing relationship drama that I promised I wouldn't talk about on air.

Speaker 1 1:08:06

Okay.

Speaker 2 1:08:06

No matter how many pints I had.

Speaker 1 1:08:08

Okay, and number nine. Matt.

Speaker 3 1:08:14

Oh yeah, is that me or didn't?

Speaker 1 1:08:15

I just ask oh number nine is me, sorry. Yeah, the Belgian moon is strong.

Speaker 2 1:08:20

Special double pint edition. Double pint edition.

Speaker 1 1:08:23

What decade is the last century? Oh, sorry Jesus, I can't even read. What decade in the last century would you like to live again?

Speaker 2 1:08:31

Ones that I have lived or ones that I could live through. If you could relive a decade, you could go back to your book, your 1920s?

Speaker 1 1:08:37

Oh, I wouldn't do that Past, present or future. It would be terrible, I'd say in the future. Or if you want to do past, I want to relive the 80s.

Speaker 2 1:08:42

I would relive the 90s for sure. I think everyone would.

Speaker 1 1:08:45

That's the easiest thing to do. I mean, it's just like right there, it's right there.

Speaker 2 1:08:48

It's awesome. You just have a good time.

Speaker 1 1:08:50

Phones came out. They just had a snake on them, yeah.

Speaker 2 1:08:54

Everyone's nostalgic, you know what there for the 1890s, and he keeps bothering the kids about it.

Speaker 1 1:09:06

That's funny as hell.

Speaker 2 1:09:07

Maybe I'll find a part to write about that. But he says the chapter about him is called. He Sings the Songs that Remind Him of the Better Times from Tub Club.

Speaker 3 1:09:21

And he says it sounds like Chubb. Yeah, he says, it sounds like Chub, yeah, he said okay, so music today.

Speaker 2 1:09:28

Fiener scoffed and then took a swig from a mason jar full of dark rum. It's nothing like it was back in the 90s. I've been working on the railroad bicycle built for two twinkle, twinkle little star. Those were undeniable hits. Music meant something back then.

Speaker 3 1:09:48

A song like Happy birthday meant it was somebody's birthday. That's awesome, that's great ridiculous book.

Speaker 1 1:09:54

I love it. Okay, uh, we're on to the last question, brother. Last question, this is our theme of the question.

Speaker 3 1:09:59

We ask everybody this question same question for everybody, this one. So what is one piece of advice that you were given, that you would like to give to us and our listeners?

Speaker 2 1:10:11

Nobody cares as much about what you're doing as you do I love that. So you think that everybody cares about your thing? They don't really.

Speaker 1 1:10:20

You need to convince them.

Speaker 3 1:10:23

That's the greatest answer.

Speaker 1 1:10:24

That's a great answer because, wow, that's so true, so true, and it applies to everything.

Speaker 2 1:10:29

Yeah, absolutely everything. I forget who gave me that advice. But just don't assume that anyone cares about what you're doing.

Speaker 1 1:10:36

No, yeah or they're on that glass mirror on the other side of the edge of the world just watching and laughing at you Just watching from behind the glass on the other side of the edge of the world, just watching, just watching and laughing at you. Right, yeah, and you'll never, meet them exactly. All right, that's it. Well, that's a somber note, but let's cheers absolutely, I love it. Yeah, oh you're, you're all jumped into my glass. Did you ever see that? You ever?

Speaker 3 1:10:59

see that, wow, okay, you.