Owning Your Authenticity: The Spellman Twins on Breaking Barriers

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Welcome to In the Passenger Seat

Alethea 0:18

yeah , hello , hello , hello . And welcome back to In the Passenger Seat with your hype girl , alethea Crimmins , where we don't just ride , baby , we take off those masks that I know that some of y'all still wearing . Take that shit off . Take that off . We break boxes that people put you in because , baby , we live outside the box . Get outside of that box that people have put you in because , baby , we live outside the box . Get outside of that box that people have put you in . We own who we are and we do it what Out loud . Stop living for other people and start living for you .

Alethea 0:56

Be yourself unapologetically . Do not compromise who you are for anybody . Baby , look , I am me . I am me . I am loud , I am bold , I have a stutter and bitch . I own each and every part of who I am , each and every part , because it's mine . It's me . I am a loud , proud , beautiful gay for all y'all who did not know woman , and I own it , even when people are uncomfortable with who I am , even when people do not like who I am . People talk about me on a daily basis , but that doesn't stop me from being me , because , at the end of the day , there's only one of me , nobody else can be me .

Alethea 1:56

But our issue is that we want to be cropping copies of people that are less than us . Oh wait , let me get out y'all business . But I'm going to say that one more time Y'all want to be carbon copies of people that are less than you . Your identity is not up for debate . Your authenticity is a superpower , baby . You are a superhero , so go out there and be a superhero . All right , now we are in the passenger seat and y'all know I am not by myself . I am not by myself . I have two people , not just one . Two , honey , a dynamic duo , baby . And when you talk about living out loud , when you talk about being who you are , when you talk about I do not give a fuck if you like me or not . If you look up authenticity in the dictionary , I'm sure that you are going to find these two Baby . If you do not know who I'm talking about , y'all gonna know after today . But let's get into this clip .

The Twins 3:21

Yeah , oh , eat , eat , eat .

Speaker 3 3:26

This is no ad . See a big wall . That's a little beat . Oh yeah , oh yeah , oh yeah , oh yeah , oh yeah , oh yeah , oh yeah , oh yeah . Come and get this yum , yum , yummy . You know I got that . Yum yum , yummy . You say you got cash and blow it . I might show a little ass if you throw it and if you got that money , then you get this yum , yum , yummy .

Meet the Dynamic Duo: Calvin & Clinton

Alethea 3:54

Let me introduce you to a dynamic duo dance floor slayers , honey and champions for living your truth out loud . The Spellman twins Calvin and .

The Twins 4:05

Clinton . What's up ? Buh buh , buh buh buh , can we get this ? Yum yum , yummy . Buh buh , buh , buh buh .

Speaker 3 4:14

You know , I got that yum yum , yummy . Yeah , we got cash and blow it .

The Twins 4:17

I'm going to show a little ass if I throw it and if you got that money , then you get this yum , yum , yummy . What's up ? No , I'm talking , I'm playing and you're not making stuff up . Yes , I'm on the podcast .

Alethea 4:32

Yes , oh , my God . Look , I have been excited for people to be on this podcast , but when I tell you I'm excited that you're on this podcast , no , I'm hella excited . Okay , first of all , I need to know who is who .

Calvin 4:52

Okay , I'm Calvin and I'm Clinton short-haired , Okay , Calvin long hair .

Alethea 4:59

Yes , Now y'all , you better not never cut your hair . Oh I don't because , because , because , damn it , because because don't have me go out , there wait calvin no , he has to keep his hair one of y'all see , that's this .

Alethea 5:20

This is like me , because people recognize me because of my signature hair , so I can't change it . And I've tried to change it . I've tried to wear my natural hair and it's like so I have to keep my signature hair and but summertime is here so it's hot . So you know my signature hair , like y'all be liking this , but sometimes it get hot , so at some point I'm going to have to take this hair off .

The Twins 5:59

Okay , you just going to take it off like that ?

Alethea 6:05

Well , it's not mine bitch Fuck , I know , but I can act like it is Like it is . I thought it was . See the tracks .

The Twins 6:18

You see it , okay okay , okay , hold it , bitch .

Alethea 6:25

I own everything about who I am . This is one of the reasons why I had to had to had to have you on here , because you own who you are and it's like I don't give a fuck , I don't care if you don't like it . You don't like it , you , somebody out there likes it and it shows because your fan base is huge . Thank you , it shows I . I love that . You are exactly who you are , exactly who you were meant to be . Yes , took a while , a while Out loud , and we're going to talk about all that , but before people knew Calvin and Clinton , before the music , before the fame , who were you ?

Calvin 7:22

Honestly , I would say we were very sheltered children . I feel like we didn't . Yeah , our parents wouldn't let us do anything . It was always we were very athletic . We were very our parents when I say parents , I mean more so my dad and his girlfriend , because our mom was absent when we were six , but or six until we were adults , but anyway , we played sports all our life . It was just school sports , school sports . That's what people have known us as athletes .

Alethea 7:50

You could tell , because body yaddy , yaddy , yaddy , yaddy yeah .

Calvin 7:56

Now , mind you , we weren't just like oh , they play sports , no , we did this . So we played football . Since we were six , we played basketball . But when we got into high school , we did this . We played football . Since we were six , we played basketball . When we got into high school , we honed into track and we got scholarships to run track in college . We didn't just do sports , baby , we did sports .

Alethea 8:16

They didn't just play . We didn't just play sports , honey . We were sports , we Nike , we were sports , we were sports , we Nike'd that shit . Yes .

Calvin 8:29

And I want to let people know this because obviously back then we weren't as like , loud and proud as we are now . So people who see that side , they don't know that's how we were back then , like we were really athletes , like people just see us as like creators and like music , you know , but people don't really know we actually really were really good we did this like I was really making to the championships everything in track .

Calvin 8:51

We break school records like we was in the field like don't let this page fool you , bitch , because we'll still kill your favorite athlete , duh so so , basically for

From Athletes to Authenticity

Calvin 9:03

for the ones in the back that miss all of this , they are them they are them .

Alethea 9:11

I'm going to be humble unless you do the honors because , listen , because I ain't even got to walk in with my two out baby people . People already know your name before you walk into the door . Listen , my brother used to sell . He used to be one of the biggest dope dealers and he would always say dope sell itself Yep , I ain't gotta do nothing . Dope sell itself Yep , I ain't gotta do nothing . Don't sell itself . Like I ain't even gotta leave my house . Yes , and that is what you give , like that is what you are , baby . You sell you .

Calvin 10:00

Period . You actually just gave me a song idea for our next era them or him or him . Like we are him or them and like you just gave me a song idea okay , as long as I as I could be a feature , because you know , oh girl , do you want to have , like , have a voice in it or something ?

Alethea 10:20

like let me do something , like y'all heard it . Like let me do something .

The Twins 10:24

Y'all heard it .

Alethea 10:24

Let me do something . Oh no , we're going to need your inspirational voice today .

Speaker 3 10:28

Oh , bro Watch this .

Calvin 10:31

Oh , you think I'm dead . I'm not joking .

Alethea 10:34

I'm telling you right .

The Twins 10:34

When do I ?

Alethea 10:35

need to book a flight . It's all I'm asking .

Calvin 10:40

Either book a flight or get a session . But , girl , we're going to make it happen . So y'all hear that first hand from Spelman Twins . We're having a future collab on the way .

Alethea 10:50

Okay , okay , okay , because I'm ready . You're going to eat , we're going to eat , because what is four plus four Bitch ? I think it means eight , two plus six . Eight , nine minus one bitch . I think it means 8 , what's 2 plus 6 , 8 , 9 minus 1 , 8 cause , that's all we gonna do duh .

Alethea 11:13

You see , that wasn't my thing for a second cause I was like come on , twins , come on , come on , come on , come on , come on , get it , get it , get it , come on , come on . I had to come on , get it , get it , get it , come on .

Calvin 11:26

No , because I had to catch it . I said six minutes . That wasn't my brightest suit , okay For me . I was trying so hard not to use my hand . Six I suck at math . I am not . I was too on the spot , though I wasn't prepared for that , but I had to lock in .

Alethea 11:48

I'm going to have to send y'all look , we're going to do math in this next episode .

Calvin 11:55

We're going to do math bitch , I haven't done math for a long time . All I know is that you was trying to say eight for everything . I was like , okay , I caught on .

Alethea 12:04

Bitch , eight , eight , eight . What's the square root of eight ? Eight Y'all have such an electric energy and like it's not just because y'all twins . Y'all twins , like y'all just share some dope ass life experiences together and not everybody has that . How did your early life shape what we see now , the bold , resilient , fine ass men that we see right now ?

Calvin 12:46

I'm gonna have them answer first and then I'll answer okay , I think it's what happened was when it was a time where , like , uh , I got caught coming like talking to people , like when I was younger and my dad found out I was gay , and I think that's kind of where it kind of shaped where we are , because we kind of like ran away from home . Not kind of we did . We went away from home at 17 and then it was always just us and then just going in from there , we were always together , like wherever we went . I think it's deeper than that , though . I think for for us , I think for me , I can speak for myself my boldness and proudness of who I am , it comes from like our dad was , like he wouldn't let me like dance , like I couldn't do dance classes .

Calvin 13:26

I couldn't . He always wanted to do sports , sports , sports , and it was always like we had to obey them and everything was gay . Yeah , and again , I mean so because during our childhood , it was mainly our dad and his girlfriend , so we weren't able to , I wasn't able to be myself . Constantly Say , if we say we got in trouble at school and it was false information , I wasn't able to like voice , like the correction , so I was always silenced is the word all my life . So I think now I think where my personality comes from is for being silenced for so long as a kid and not be able to speak how I speak . It carried to my adulthood , so I think that's where it I'm known for a fact . That's why I am the way I am today .

Alethea 14:09

That is a story that so many of us in the queer community can relate to , like I know for me Definitely can . And how do you , how did you not lose who you were through all of this ? Because there was a time where I faked the funk , like I had to fake it to make it . I had to fake it to make it . So how did you not lose yourself through all of this ? Because I'm sure that there is somebody out here watching that feels the rejection of their family right now , like they've been dis disowned by people who say that they love them unconditionally . So how do you , how do you not lose your yourself dealing with all of this ?

Calvin 15:10

I think for us , I think at this point in our life , I think not losing ourself would stem for us wanting to succeed and prove that we could do this life without you . We don't need you in our life . I think , now that the stuff we worked on I just give you some little I'm going to hype myself up real quick Little milestones . My brother and I decided to hop on social media in 2018 . We got on TikTok in 2017 . Created a big following from there . We also just graduated , december 2023 . We went through college alone , alone , no help , and we graduated in six years . Took us six years , but we did it . We were . We got a scholarship to run track uh , d1 , mind you , a D1 scholarship . Then what happened recently ? Oh , we're about to uh , we're about to get our master's in social work to be at LCSW , all by ourselves so .

Calvin 16:02

I'm just gonna hype myself up . So to answer your question , what keeps us from being , you know , to losing ourselves is to want to succeed , because we want to prove our parents when we hit them fucking stages , because the Spelman twins are going to be on the motherfucking stage . You're going to know our name and then when you see us on TV , then people are going to be like oh , those are your kids and you don't look fucking dumb because you want to be homophobic this is what I always say like .

Alethea 16:28

I'm very much driven like you because I no longer have a relationship with my family either . I have my chosen one that I chose myself , but my biological family I do not have a relationship with , and for the longest time , my focus was to prove them wrong . Now , now that's no longer my focus . Why ? Because when you try to prove them wrong , it still makes it about them .

Calvin 17:05

Yeah , exactly .

Alethea 17:06

So now I want to prove me right .

Calvin 17:11

Yes , yes , yes , and I think that's where we're at too at this point . It's not so to prove . When I say prove them wrong , it's more like I'm going to prove to myself that we can do it , because I don't think about them on the daily , I think Recently . I'm thinking of how the fuck we're going to get to Brazil and do this feature that we got . I'm thinking about how we're about to be on the next stage . I'm trying to think about how can we get this deal . I'm trying to think how can we get our name out there more . That's what I'm thinking about .

The Twins 17:37

I ain't thinking

Life-Shaping Experiences and Family Rejection

The Twins 17:38

about them because , they over here and we over here , Girl , you taught me something . You taught me something we were studying girl .

Alethea 17:47

Because they over here and bitch we over here .

Calvin 17:52

Use that one . Use that one and you know what , also helps us a lot too , I think , since , like I said , we were very sheltered . We want to prove to ourselves that we could . You know , we got thrown into the world . I ran away when I was 17 , so it was crazy . It was crazy um , we're always going to deep , uh dive into that , but it's like we had to grow up with , we grew up with each other and we keep ourselves in check . I feel like we're our own parents .

Speaker 3 18:17

Yeah I love that we're our own parents .

Calvin 18:20

we really are like we don really talk about that , but we technically are each other's parents Because , like something like I'll do , I'll be like bitch , what are you doing ?

Speaker 3 18:26

And I'll be like what are you doing ?

Calvin 18:28

So we really parent each other . It's weird to say , but we do .

Alethea 18:34

No , it's really not , because you have become not only your own best friend , but each other's , and you hold each other accountable . Yes , and that that's that's something that we don't have , but by you holding each other accountable , you also hold yourself . Yes , okay it . It makes you more self self aware of what you have going on , and that's so important , because a lot of times , we don't do that , and I love how your validation does not come from anything outside of what you have going on right here , from anything outside of what you have going on right here .

Alethea 19:24

Your validation is not in the outside world , your validation is not from him , because you don't have that daddy issues . He had issues being a daddy , so that's different . That's different . And you don't go outside because so many people I'm talking about me when you don't get that validation from home , you go out there and you seek it yeah , that's true , that's true because it's something that you never had .

Alethea 19:56

Yeah , and the fact that you left , but you left with a mission . Like you , you didn't just leave , like you didn't just run away and then was like okay , what the fuck I'm gonna do now . Like you ran away with a mission , you ran away with a goal , you left saying I am going to not and our verbiage is so important because you didn't say oh , oh well , I hope that something works , I hope that some . No , you left with the mindset I don't give a fuck what . I am going to make something out of my self just for that alone . Like Hair flip on them holes , hair flip on them holes Because you did this , you did this .

Calvin 20:56

We've lived so many . I feel like we've lived multiple lives . If you go back in time , it wasn't that long ago . Like it's so weird , like it really wasn't .

The Twins 21:06

It feels like we like 2017 was only around the corner .

Calvin 21:09

Yeah , yeah , dang , and like I feel like . So I feel like our parents like kind of knew in a sense we'll be fine , because I'm really like the rebellious twin like I really I am . I'm very rebellious like , especially when we live with them . I kind of , as I got , I kind of started voicing myself a little bit , no matter whether I got hit for it , but um yeah that's why I ran away , even though I ran away .

Calvin 21:31

I ran away Cause our dad found out the night of us being gay , but I ran away Cause I knew like our life would be over with and he was why waste my time any further ? Right ? So I ran away that night . I ran away that night and , yeah , I actually didn't have a plan , it was just so spontaneous . I literally left with nothing . I just was like I already had a plan where I was going to do like , go to like Reading and see my mom , but I did have a mission to succeed at the end of the day , like I knew , like , oh , even though I'm going out here in the world , even though I'm going out here in the world , I still am a go-getter .

Alethea 22:02

We're going to get it , no matter what . I love that mindset though .

Calvin 22:07

I feel like it's hard to have that mindset though . So anyone watching you kind of have to constantly hype yourself up . You do Because I think recently we were kind of down about something , but then we had to remember I like the struggle . I kind of like it because when you get to the top it's like then , then what ? So like you're like , okay because I , because , like you know , just because you have the top don't mean they're happy , right .

Alethea 22:30

so , oh , it's true yeah it's true listen , because some , some , some people look looks can be deceiving , because some people look happy way up there but they're not really happy because what it's what success means to them , exactly it's what their level of success means to them . Like I could be way at the top and still not happy because I haven't reached what I think . But sometimes it's not our level , it's other people . So we we are constantly trying to reach a level of success that is not unattainable .

Alethea 23:18

Yeah , Cause me , me being able to quit my job and do what I love full time bitch . I am successful bitch . I am successful in my eyes me leaving a job doing what I love , never missing a meal , never missing a bill , being able to take care of well , let me not lie , in case my wife is watching . My wife does take care of me , but I do help , bitch , I do help , I do help , I do help .

Calvin 24:06

So being able to help take care of my wife and kids like that is success yes , I agree , and you know there's a quote that makes me happy , that I think about when I'm like down , you know what you give me the energy and a lot of people do . That's successful . You're not the moment , you're the movement . Does that make sense ? You're not the moment a movement , you don't know because ?

Alethea 24:32

because moments last like this yeah , two seconds .

Calvin 24:37

a movement is a lifetime and Exactly , and I feel like Because they are still talking about Martin Luther King .

Alethea 24:48

Exactly he was the movement . They are still talking about Harriet Tubman . They were a movement . They were a movement .

The Twins 24:56

And for us .

Calvin 24:57

I want to be a movement , not a fucking moment .

Calvin 25:00

No , you will be . We have a story to tell . We're gay , we're black , we're loud , we're proud , and we want to inspire other black people like that . You could be yourself , no matter what . Even if you have a homophobic father or parents , you can still be successful . We are a testament of that . So don't ever let nobody tell you that you cannot be successful . Black , gay , proud , and still do you Bitch . We up right now . All of our people of color are up right now . We got the movie Sinners Right now . We got some hot artists coming right now . Black people are winning right now . We winning .

Alethea 25:36

And we're going to keep winning Period . I just have to end that because it was like period . Yes , so how has like ? So I read your bio and it said that music was your escape . That's how you . It was your safe space , Right , but now it's become your platform .

The Twins 26:09

Yeah which is so weird .

Alethea 26:11

How has owning your identity , identity publicly through your music , changed not just your lives but the lives of your fans ? Because fans are watching , they are listening , they know your story , so how has has that changed ?

Calvin 26:35

um , well , I can just say this about you think I think like our music is very I mean , as you can see , it's bold , like , if you see the visuals and like what we do and what we represent , we I actually just saw a comment the other day . Some guy was like I like this , the love this generation , how y'all just don't give a fuck about nothing , and I love it . And when you meet says that like we don't give a fuck about other people's opinions . So I think that us being bold and like what we do in our visuals , like our our music video coming soon , the Yum Yum music video . Wait till you see the music video . Yum Yum music video coming May 9th , next week .

Alethea 27:11

Bitch , because what I saw , all that challenges all your documents . You haven't seen nothing .

Calvin 27:21

It's music video next week , so stay tuned . But look , I think that our bold representation of what we do is kind of like why I feel like people are gravitating towards our sound . I think we've made some really good . We've been meeting a lot of people in the industry that are like we . Like to meet people with energy right , Like you , for example . I don't care how big somebody is If we don't mess .

Calvin 27:43

We ain't working or we ? I don't want to know you Right , I don't give a fuck . Shivers don't mean shit to us . We be with people who got a million , 10 million followers . Girl , I don't give a fuck . Duh Sex . You're just one person , a follower . Don on followers . That don't make you Like we have followers too bitch . I love everyone that support us . I don't want to say followers , supporters , people that support you . You got to treat those people good too . Like , if I look up to someone and you have no energy , girl , I'm not working with you .

Alethea 28:15

Like people really do have the idea , which I love that for me , but people think that because I do what I do , that I'm bigger than what I am right . It's like that that I know exactly what you mean at the end of the day , bitch , I'm me like , if , if you look in the back , I live in an apartment . Bitch , I drive a Ford Fusion . Bitch like I am regular dangly .

Calvin 28:53

But I am one of one , exactly .

Alethea 28:58

I am one of one . We're just alike .

Calvin 29:01

Look , look , we have a Ford and we also have a nissan altima . Um , let's see , we also . We're family support counselors too . I don't know if nobody knows that , but we also are . Yeah , I'm a counselor .

Speaker 3 29:12

It's weird which doesn't really make sense because our energy .

Calvin 29:15

But no , no , no it does . It transpires in my field because I , because I break a lot of my cases . So trust me , it transpires . I do want to say because you live in an apartment that does not mean anything . The biggest people live in apartments because houses is a lot of maintenance .

Alethea 29:35

And I can't do it . I'm just , we have to know our lane and stay in it , and sometimes that be the issue . Y'all want to jump lanes bitch . I'm not trying to wreck , so I'm going to stay in my lane and my lane is . I know that . I don't want to pay nobody to fix my roof , thank you .

Calvin 30:01

I'm going to call the maintenance man and they come and fix it yes , yes , and you save and you get to make your money doing what you love travel , do whatever you

Building Resilience and Self-Validation

Calvin 30:09

want , because a house don't . Or a house or apartment because , like I said , people got houses and mansions and are they fucking happy .

Alethea 30:15

No , and this is what people have . Anybody who is listening right now ? Stop letting people tell you what success should look like . Stop letting people tell you what your success should look like . You are the author of your own story . Stop letting people write chapters in your book . It's yours , so why are you allowing other people to come and tell you how to write your shit ?

Calvin 30:47

Exactly Caught that motherfucking skia .

Alethea 30:51

Make that make sense . Yeah , like this is your life , it belongs to you . You have literally been rejected . This basically thrown away by people who say that they love you . That does not make you any less valuable . You , you went from that to performing at prides , to like being on stages . You about to have a whole music video out here in these people's streets yes , true yes , like you , that it doesn't matter who who is not .

Alethea 31:40

It doesn't matter how broken , what people try to break you , because they may bruise you , but they ain't gonna never break you , baby , they ain't gonna never break you . And even in your brokenness , what I know and understand as a former pre-k teacher , I had a lot of broken crayons in my classroom and each one of them bitches still colored . So it does not matter . It does not matter . It does not matter . Baby , you can still be broken and be a masterpiece , you still have value and you are the walking talking like movements . That says exactly that .

Calvin 32:34

Yep , and I tell people all the time . I tell people , I motivate people , I tell them like I feel like if I didn't go through what I went through in my life , it would not . I wouldn't be where I am today . I tell people you turn your negativity into a positive like , oh yes , I feel like no , I feel like everybody has a story .

Speaker 3 32:51

You want your story like to reflect who you are as a person but you don't want that to be the excuse you don't want to be an excuse why you can't do something you have a story , but let your story be .

Calvin 33:00

it be a lesson , not an excuse to why you're the way you are , if you're successful .

Alethea 33:07

Run that back because somebody , somebody going to catch that next week and I need them to catch it now . Ok , one more time .

Calvin 33:18

I said don't use your success as a don't use that why a bad situation as an excuse . Use that as a success story .

Alethea 33:27

Okay , so stop , what , what , what , what he's saying ? Because , because he , he's , he's , he's saying it , nice , but , but , but , but , y'all know me , I don't , I don't , I don't play that . Yeah , translate it for me . Making excuses just because you're going through some bad shit right now does not mean that that bad shit will be going on for the rest of your life . Stop using that one thing as . Oh well , you know , since I didn't make it , I ain't gonna never make it , because last time , bitch , that was yesterday .

Alethea 34:08

She sounded like Jocelyn when she said that that was yesterday . Today is what you make it , so what are you going to make your today ? Thank you . What are you going to make your today ?

Calvin 34:22

Because no one's waiting on you While this person , while you depressed this person over here , about one step closer to fame .

Speaker 3 34:31

Why you over here ?

Calvin 34:32

depressed .

Speaker 3 34:32

Nobody waits for you , Unfortunately no one waiting for us Cause we seen it firsthand .

Calvin 34:37

Ain't no one waiting for us ? We went through psychosis . We're in the hospital . For three weeks we lost everything we had and nobody . People who dropped us off because we were weren't them bitches . I guess you could say we lost our notoriety , but bitch we bounced back .

Alethea 34:54

So where you at now , bitch ignore , that's where you at . So . So what was when you say you lost everything , like everything ?

Calvin 35:00

well . So we lost our apartment , we lost our job , lost our job . We had working . We went to uh psychiatric for three weeks . So people don't know that because I don't know what happened . But we went to la , we went to an event and whatever happened there , I guess we kind of I think our brain was like overstimulated or something , because we also got kicked off the track team during that , during that time .

Calvin 35:19

So we had to drop out yeah , we dropped out of school too and we had no money , so we lost everything and so , luckily , we had this is 2019 yeah .

Calvin 35:28

So I think that's and that's a big . 2019 was a big awakening for us and how we who we really are today , cause we learned the fake . We learned who the snakes are , we know when someone's loose , and we learned like like . That's when we learned about like , cause we were 19 when this happened . I thought we were very young . I'm happy it happened to us , though , because it helped us navigate the social media world in the industry , because people are hella fake . People didn't have our back , like they said they did . They turned on us like we literally had nobody , and nobody waited for us either , like . So that's why I always say nobody waits for you and nobody feels really sorry for you . So you gotta do things , you gotta you gotta make it your on your own , and luckily we again . We always had each other , so so it's easy to bounce back faster ?

Alethea 36:12

yeah , I guess , but you're like y'all are the billboard of . It's not about the fall , it is about the rise thank you it's not about the fall , because people , yes , they will watch you fall , but they really want to see how you get up . Yep , they really want . Oh yeah , yes , yeah , they fell , but let me watch them now , let me see how they get up .

Calvin 36:42

Yeah , yeah , that's what people want to see .

Alethea 36:45

Even your haters are watching how you get up . Oh , that's for real .

Calvin 36:49

Oh , they are all the time People will always be in our comment section or DM . Someone texted us . They're like talking about a fuck y'all . My brother sent a little kissing emoji . We thought I was going to be mad .

Alethea 36:59

He said well , there's , there's a reason there's . So , for all of your haters that are watching , for all of your haters that are watching , let me just tell you why you have haters , because I know that some of your haters are watching right now . Hi , how are you ? Yeah , I look cute , Thank you . So haters y'all haters stands for having anger towards everyone reaching success . That's why y'all mad at my boys right here . Oh , I'm using that .

Calvin 37:47

I'm using that . That's a song title right there .

Alethea 37:51

That's why y'all mad , because y'all have anger towards everybody reaching success , because y'all not at that level yet .

The Twins 37:59

Yep .

Alethea 38:00

Aww .

The Twins 38:02

Aww , wait , I need that , I need that , I need that .

Calvin 38:11

Go ahead and take it . We need to get our next song because we need your motivating quotes in the songs thank you .

Alethea 38:19

Listen how ? Because y'all , y'all's confidence in who you are and just living out loud is so inspiring to me . And people ask me all the time and you are exactly what I am about to say , and after this I need to get y'all's shirt sizes . So people ask me well , how did you get so bold and so confident ? Three letters F-T-P . Fuck them people Because I do not care .

Calvin 39:05

It's facts , though , like you literally have to . I'm sorry , I didn't mean to cut you off , but it's true . Like I think , when we came out in 2022 , 2021 , we came out on national coming out day . It was a weird moment for us . We were like we . I was like we're tired of hiding who we are , like it's like it's not . People are following us , but they don't know who we really are .

Calvin 39:24

Then that's when you , once you come , once you come out and be yourself , regardless if you're gay , straight , whatever and once you become yourself , that shit transpires to the world . And once we came out , our life changed from there , literally . Once we came out and we decided to be who we are in bold , you can't care about what other people are saying to you when we go out in public and stuff . We still respect it . That's the funny part . We even got the straight people coming up to us and be like y'all dope , y'all be doing this , and that we had an interview with the probably most straightest people ever for DJs . We had a DJ call . All straight , they were fucking with it .

Calvin 39:59

So it's like it's your energy . It's not about because you're gay . This it's not about that . It's about the person . People don't care about if you're gay or not , it's how you carry yourself . So how you carry yourself when you're bold and you're in your truth , that's when people fuck with you . Because people can spot fake authenticity . Because I can , he can , I can spot a snake a mile away .

Calvin 40:22

I'm like a hawk , I can spot my dinner a mile away .

Music as a Platform for Expression

Calvin 40:27

Like I can see .

The Twins 40:29

Someone's out there right now .

Calvin 40:30

Social media don't play about that fake shit , what you see right now , social media don't play about that fake shit , what you see right now . What you see right now is how me and my brother act 24-7 Because people .

Alethea 40:41

They ask me Is this a game ? No , I knew you , we know this is me , all day , all night , 24-7 . I wake up like this , I wake up like this , and I woke up like this , like this is me . And people some people do not like who I am because they're like oh , but she's loud , well , she's this . Well , who asked you ? Because I don't care . Because what they eat don't make me shit .

Calvin 41:15

So guess what ? There's a lot of quotes on here .

Alethea 41:18

I'm using Like I'm going to wake up and be exactly who I am tomorrow , Like it's not going to change . Other people's opinions don't matter , because opinions are like assholes Everybody has one and some of them are full of shit , so it doesn't matter .

Calvin 41:38

Oh , you A .

The Twins 41:41

It doesn't matter .

Alethea 41:46

I love y'all so fucking much Wait we can't forget what's your Zodiac sign . Gemini .

Calvin 41:58

You know , what's funny ?

Alethea 41:58

Wait , wait , wait .

Calvin 41:59

Okay , I will say Gemini do have a bad rep , but for some reason Pisces and Gemini make good friends , okay .

The Twins 42:07

Okay so we good on that .

Alethea 42:10

So , like , what you're saying is like we gonna be besties . Um , what I'm saying is like , are we going to be besties ? What I'm saying is die the fuck .

Calvin 42:23

That's how I be feeling . When you be talking on the , when you go to the videos Like girl , I said please , y'all . I mean I love , I'm so glad that we found each other because I need some more motivational shit . You be having me like , if I'm down , yo , when I'm down , when I be seeing those videos , I'm like , oh bitch , I'm happy again . Like I remember , I commented the other day on one of the posts . I was like oh , you can yell at me , yes .

Alethea 42:44

I'm like I love and bitch , I would like . I tried , because people , because sometimes the shit gets to your head and like you like , well , do I scream a lot , like do I ? So I tried to be in my like Tabitha Brown era where I was like , okay , guys , like you know , and because we're going to have a good day , I don guys , like you know , and because we're gonna have a good day and I was like I can't fucking do this , like that's not even who I am , like you know what bitch .

Alethea 43:26

If you do not like me , unsubscribe , bitch . Your seven day free trial is up .

Calvin 43:37

Unsubscribe people are so hypocritical on social media like we . So like obviously we're gay , so like we're gonna post gay things and like we have like a hell of like we still got followers , but like hell of people like unfollowed us . Um , it was like because we went from like 121 000 to 115 , because we started like we just been ourselves , but like we wouldn't follow . It's like y'all knew what y'all were looking at . So what are you confused for ? Let it be a female , though . Y'all all over that . But because I'm being me , you have an issue . But , like , again , I'm happy though , because the those people who fell off y'all weren't my real supporters . You were fake as fuck . So I purposely do things for people to unfollow me because the people who fuck with us are gonna stay . Like all we do is monitor our business posts . It's my fucking page , you don't have to watch me .

Alethea 44:27

So , bitch , get the fuck on followers don't mean shit , and for every one person that unfollows me , 10 more people every day , and they do , and they do and they do .

The Twins 44:41

And they what ?

Alethea 44:42

and they do I love y'all so much wait wait , wait , let me , okay , wait , I gotta get back to my Sorry .

Calvin 44:57

I know it's hard , so fucking hard bitch .

Alethea 45:00

I know we bring it out people , I forget we be bringing people out , like if y'all are listening , like some of y'all are watching , so y'all can see the like vibe Y'all can see . But for those of y'all who are listening , like I am sitting here trying to contain myself Because if , like , if you can see them like they are , you are , I just want to reach into my . Come here , whoa .

The Twins 45:39

Here I am the bug .

Alethea 45:40

Let's come here , like I want to book if I like like today , yes , I want to see your .

Calvin 45:51

The energy will be so low , so low . We'll be so loud like , yes , no , I want to see your the energy will be too .

Alethea 45:55

Yeah , so , though , so though , okay , so let's jump into your music , because your music has just as much energy as you do . So what ? What you call this is brazilian funk .

Calvin 46:13

It's like a high it's like element , so the sound and the beat is like they're . They're funk inspired , but it has a lot of like pop . It's really pop and like and hip-hop vibes , but it's funk . The beats are usually brazil . We make our beats with our friend and the . When we get , when we make the beat together , it's like funk , so it's brazilian . It's infused also with like trap . I don't know if you ever hear like beat together . It's like funk , so it's Brazilian , infused Also with trap . I don't know if you ever hear the bass .

The Twins 46:36

It has a spirit .

Calvin 46:37

We start with the funk beat like a bass , and then we add trap , hip-hop and pop elements to it . It's weird . We have a weird .

Alethea 46:47

But it works .

The Twins 46:48

It works .

Alethea 46:49

So let's talk about Yum , yum . Oh yeah , because they are . It works so let's talk about Yum Yum . Oh yeah , because like they are more than just bops , like Yum Yum , pom Pom De Niro , oh girl she's been studying .

The Twins 47:06

The song ain't out yet .

Calvin 47:07

She's studying the song Pom Pom and De Niro ain't out yet , but it's about to be out , it's about to be Bitch . I do my research . Bitch , yeah , clearly , clearly . This girl , that's crazy .

Alethea 47:21

Like they're more than just like bops . Your music gives people permission to take up space To just exist as they are . Was that the like ? Was that your intention when like putting this album together ?

Calvin 47:52

You want to know the backstory behind the album . Yes , tell her the backstory of what .

The Twins 47:57

The album we're working on .

Calvin 47:58

Okay , it's how we be acting too , I'm like what's up ?

Calvin 48:04

I mean I was going to say get to it . You have to tell me that . What was the damn question ? Uh , like our album . That's why one thing about me I forget I have to say . That's why I think , when he talks sometimes , because I forget I got you the intention of our album .

Calvin 48:38

Okay , that's your , our music . In the past I feel like . So , when we performed our pride events last , like I think it was two years ago , the music was not , honestly , it's good music , but like it was boring to perform to me . So , okay , I told me my brother , we're like , okay , this can never happen again .

Calvin 48:55

So , like , the music we make has to reflect our personality . Because if you see even our skits of these , our skits , our music , it all reflects how me and my brother really act like and it matches our energy . And so we want to make sure , like this upcoming album and like even yum yum to be an anthem of like , uh , any like of our community . People can just come and even though the Yum Yum's kind of vulgar , it should not matter . It should be about the energy of what it brings . It should give you feel good dance , it should make you want to twerk the song Yum Yum . If you don't want to twerk when you hear the song , forget the lyrics . If you don't want to twerk to that beat , if're not trying to do that if you ain't trying to do that with the lyrics .

Calvin 49:42

Did you hear that boom , boom ? That's what we want you to do . We want you to throw it back , yes and then . So we want our album to give energy . So , like our album . The name I haven't even announced the name , but I guess it's gonna be the first I'm gonna announce the album name . It's called exclusive . So yeah , so the album touches on like money , partying , fun , sex , um , so exclusive . So it's actually exclusive with it's exxx , because you know like it's just like yeah , so it's like explicit , so it shows like sex unfiltered raw Spellman twins .

Calvin 50:17

So yeah , so y'all hearing it now . The album name is Exclusive . That's the name of it .

Alethea 50:22

Exclusive . Yes , okay , so we got the album name first . Yes you did .

Calvin 50:31

Yeah , that's how well you deserve the album name .

The Twins 50:33

You opened that up for us , so .

Calvin 50:36

Exclusive .

Alethea 50:38

Because XXX . Yes , so for all of y'all that need to know or that do not know what XXX means , type it into your Google . No , I'm sorry .

The Twins 50:58

No but yes , and watch what pop up .

Alethea 51:01

Yeah , people , uh , um 17 and lower , don't look so I'm , I'm , I'm just letting y'all know that if y'all don't know what XXX means , type it into your Google search bar and watch what pops up .

Calvin 51:19

Yeah , at your own dispense . Yeah , just be prepared .

Alethea 51:25

Yeah , yeah .

Calvin 51:28

Like I said , though , that's where it comes from . We want to make music Honestly . We want to have music where we can dance to on stage and turn up a crowd , and I feel like we do a good job doing that , so I think mission was accomplished when it came to this album .

Alethea 51:39

Yeah , because I have never and this is a compliment in every sense of the word Like I have never heard a more openly gay song , and I fucking love it , I love it . I was like , ooh , this is gay , gay , gay , gay it's so weird to hear people like our music .

Calvin 52:06

People say like they like it .

Calvin 52:09

I still get like shocked , like people like our music . So in hearing someone say that like still , it's just like what ? Because it'd be different if people were like , oh , y'all's stuff is trash , why y'all dropping stuff ? But people actually nowadays they'd be like we're not dropping , we're not dropping , they don't care about skits . Because we don't really make skits anymore , really like that , because we dove into year and we're like we don't want to just be comedians like I don't want to do that we're . I think we're entertainers if anything . Yes , yeah , entertainers . Like we can go host clubs and do stuff like that but and make music . But I don't think we're full-on , can be .

Alethea 52:41

I don't want to be a comedian yeah , no , because because you're don't , don't put yourself into , to to a box , which is , which is something that I do not have to tell y'all .

Calvin 52:52

Yeah , and also I don't want to be known as a gimmick , because we're more than just we're very like . Yes , we are very fun to be around , but I feel like we're also inspiring and we actually are serious , we are serious about all of our craft , like what we do .

Calvin 53:05

The seriousness of it is like we want to have fun and it's a message behind it , regardless , like even though it's not like a motivational or like sad song where you can relay a message . It still is a message , though , because for our community to be happy and loud and proud when they do listen to our music and we are very we motivate people um , even like we're more than just the funny , like we have lots of layers to me , to us so like it's all a whole entertainment personality that's what I say .

Calvin 53:31

It's a mixture of everything like you said , don't same . Yeah , you're funny , but you also entertain , like you say . You're really really like yeah you are funny . But like also , when you can get serious people can . I'm like people , I'm sure know they can look to you for motivation yeah , thank you yeah , I do oh well .

Alethea 53:51

Well , speaking of motivation , we have come to one of my favorite segments of the podcast , ask aletheia , where I take questions from my listeners and we answer them on my podcast . So this question that I have asked Alethea . It says Alethea , I've been trying to live authentically , but every time I do , I lose people , families , friends , even relationships . How do you keep choosing you when it costs you people that you love ?

Twin It Game and Future Plans

Alethea 54:39

Oh , I can answer that . I'll let y'all answer this , because you were like tag me .

Calvin 54:46

Yes , tag me in Tag team this , so okay . So here's my my thing . I always am true to my . I always say for you I would say stay true to yourself because , regardless , you will come to realize people only loved you with conditions , not unconditionally . So , um , like I feel like for me , I could relate to my father . He didn't love us unconditionally , he loved us with conditions . So when he found out we were gay , that's when you , that's when you realize who's there for you and who's not . So I would say , continue to keep being you and keep , because you're going to make a chosen family at the end of the day You're going to .

Calvin 55:19

You're going to create a family of boys . Yes , it is kind of . It does start off kind of depressing and dark . I'm not going to lie , I'm not . I'm just I'm gonna be real . But at the end of the day , you are going to choose your journey , You're going to choose your family and then it's going to all fall into place . So , keep being you and keep being authentic because , again , we have chosen family . We've we've connected with a bunch of people that's not even our relatives , blood related so , and they ride for us harder than our family . So , keep being you . At the end of the day is all I can say . And you will just keep being you because you don't want to be around fake people . You want to be around people who actually love all of you and be all of you . Don't dim your light for nobody . Be yourself authentically .

Speaker 3 55:59

So I'll leave it at that .

Alethea 55:59

I'll leave it at that Period .

Calvin 56:07

Baby , I'm Y'all , don't even need to hear what .

Alethea 56:10

I'm saying Okay , so listen . So this is for anybody that needs to hear this , along with my listener who asked the question Baby , choosing you will always cost you , but it's going to always cost you the wrong people . Oh , I love that .

The Twins 56:30

Choosing you will always cost you the wrong people listen .

Alethea 56:37

If loving yourself makes people walk away , then baby silk sonically , leave the door open and let them walk out . Yes , let them , because that means that they were not for you anyway , they were not for you anyway , I got chills . They were not for you . Anyway , if loving you means losing them , then let them go . Baby Elsa , that shit , and let it go .

The Twins 57:05

Let it go Let it go . You're not going to bother me anymore .

Alethea 57:11

Let it go .

The Twins 57:13

Let it go . Let it go . You want to make a trap behind that .

Alethea 57:17

Listen , because you do not need that in your life . You don't need people in your life that's just going to tolerate you . You need people that's going to celebrate you , that's going to ride for you , that are going to love you , for you and help you grow and choose you even more and help you to become your favorite version of yourself . Yep , so choose you , choose you , because that's what you're supposed to do . Period , period .

The Twins 57:55

We ate , that we ate that Wait , nine minus one . Eight , you cannot do that to me . It was the crickets for me . It was the crickets for me , bitch , that's what Eight .

Calvin 58:26

You threw me on the spot .

The Twins 58:29

It was the crickets for me . Okay , wait .

Calvin 58:34

Your laugh is gonna have me weak . In person , I can already tell . Your laugh is going to get me every time .

The Twins 58:42

Oh shit Okay .

Alethea 58:45

I already came up with this game because this is the first time that I've ever had twins . So before I let you go , we have to play twin it , twin it , twin it , twin it , twin it , twin it , and y'all have to both answer at the exact same time . Okay , y'all have to answer at the same time . Okay , question number one who is the messier twin Me ? Me it takes longer to get ready Me .

The Twins 59:28

Well , damn .

Calvin 59:31

Yo , I'll say I want to go somewhere . One , two ready , ready , I'm already downstairs . He take hella long texting like hurry up , we gonna be besties me .

Alethea 59:40

Yes , calvin , we gonna be besties , because this takes time .

Calvin 59:52

I gotta look good this takes some time no , like it's image , I don't gotta try no , with him he'll . No , I won't have to either . I can't remember what I'm gonna wear already . He be looking for stuff . Oh girl , I be dipping sauce . Okay , but look , I won't have to either .

The Twins 1:00:10

I can't remember what I'm going to wear . Already he be looking for stuff .

Calvin 1:00:10

No , listen , oh girl , I be dipping sauce . Okay , but look , no . Okay , but he'll leave the house and then he'll forget something . So I got to double check the house before we leave . Now I don't do that , no more , okay , next question . Next question who the sexier twin ?

Alethea 1:00:31

Me . Who the sexier twin Me ? Girl bye . So who has the best fashion sense Me ?

Calvin 1:00:37

Well that's subjective though .

The Twins 1:00:38

I would say both , both .

Calvin 1:00:41

Yeah , I can't say one or the other , because I step in too . Because I tune into our femininity . When we do fashion , love it To the the masculinity , so we match each other like we compliment oh so , so like y'all like yin and yang , yeah and then the yeah twins , yeah dream collab go .

Alethea 1:01:07

My baby daddy , my baby daddy , that's my baby daddy . Yes , my baby daddy , that's my baby daddy . Okay , now we're gonna get A little gays . Let's do it Top or bottom .

The Twins 1:01:27

Top . Well , so Okay , top or bottom Top .

Calvin 1:01:34

Well , so okay , okay , okay . So we're both tops when we go meet people . But if I have a connection with you and we've known you for a very long time , we could be versed . But if I'm dating , for sure we're versed . But , if I'm meeting someone I don't know 2-2-2-L girl top , and you know why ? Because people run their mouth , they run their mouth .

The Twins 1:01:51

They'll be like oh I fuck they do .

Calvin 1:01:53

Mind you , we're twins and we have a social media presence too , so I don't want people to be like , oh , I fuck that twin , sorry , sorry .

Alethea 1:02:00

Do you know how many times I said fuck ?

The Twins 1:02:04

Okay , you did .

Calvin 1:02:10

I don't want people to be like oh I , because people be messy , they really be messy . I be very careful . Who can have access to the behind ? Because it's thick , yeah , it's yummy .

Alethea 1:02:19

Yeah , it's exclusive , it's exclusive , it's exclusive , yum yum .

Calvin 1:02:27

So I'll say top , reverse Rihanna orverse Rihanna or Beyonce Rihanna .

The Twins 1:02:36

I just knew that what she's a Pisces too , she's a .

Calvin 1:02:41

Pisces too , and she have Addie and she connects with her audience . Rihanna is exactly who we . I feel like we transpire because she is not she's big , but she still connects with creators audience . Rihanna is exactly who we . I feel like we transpire because she is not she's big , but she still connects with creators and stuff . Yeah .

Alethea 1:02:54

Yes , yes . That's why I love her , yes .

Calvin 1:02:56

We're going to meet her one day , though I already know that Child listen , I'm ready , I'm ready , I'm ready .

Alethea 1:03:06

I'm going to meet y'all and we're going to just oh girl , that's a given .

Calvin 1:03:10

That's a given . What is ?

Alethea 1:03:12

your go-to hype song before performing .

Calvin 1:03:18

Oh , I can't answer that one . Oh yeah , that one's not fast . How do ?

The Twins 1:03:23

we have one . How do ?

Calvin 1:03:24

we have one , oh , actually , okay , I have a life . I would say De Niro .

Speaker 3 1:03:30

Oh yeah , de Niro , de Niro , our song it's unreleased , the one that you heard .

Calvin 1:03:37

We listen to our music way too much .

The Twins 1:03:39

Yeah , that's what .

Calvin 1:03:39

I'm saying we listen to our songs more than I listen to anyone else no , but that's what you're supposed to do .

Alethea 1:03:50

Bitch , when I'm getting ready bitch , I'll be like ain't nobody so yes , yes , because , because bitch ain't nobody better than me , cocky oh girl , you ain't .

Calvin 1:04:05

And you said that with pure confidence . That's what I like .

Alethea 1:04:10

No , but that's how I feel . You may do things different than me , but just because you do it differently than me doesn't make it better , so nobody's better than me .

Calvin 1:04:21

Duh Clock . That T the fuck Period . No one can beat you . So , yeah , no one can be better than you because , bitch , I am God's favorite , like what you're welcome , so what ?

Alethea 1:04:49

what is next for the Spellman twins ? Tell us all things , spellman twins , and where can we find you ?

Calvin 1:05:00

So you can find us on every platform TikTok , instagram , youtube . Spellman twins with a Z , as you can see right there . What's next for us ? I think we can both say this fashion . We're really trying to get into the fashion , because our next album that we're going to be working on not this one , but the next one is definitely going to have to give the look We've been trying to dabble into fashion . But we have so much going on Fashion performing . We have a show June 14th , where June 14th when .

Calvin 1:05:28

Sacramento Pride , it's about to be lit . Sac Pride , sac Pride . And then we have one in LA Pride . Yeah , and then .

Alethea 1:05:35

Wait , that's at the end of May .

Calvin 1:05:41

No June , no June . June 14th is Sacramento yeah .

Alethea 1:05:47

When is LA Pride ?

Calvin 1:05:48

It should be the 21st . But , it's not going to be at LA Pride , it's going to be at a different event , but it's going to be lit , though . We performed at another event the same people and they wanted us to come back Because they said we were lit , so they wanted us back .

Alethea 1:06:00

And June 14th we going to talk yeah .

Calvin 1:06:06

So also , what's next ? We have another single . We're gonna drop De Niro . I don't know exactly yet , but I want to say it may be in the May or early June , because we gotta still get the music video prepared . The cover art is done , though , and then we have our album . That's gonna drop as well , hopefully on May , may 9th , oh .

Alethea 1:06:31

Yum Yum music video is dropping . Yeah , yeah , yeah . May 9th Yum Yum music video . And if you follow their Instagram and saw these visuals of all this chocolate just slathered on top of each other , I want to watch this video so bad .

Calvin 1:06:53

Oh , you're going to gag . It was so bad .

Alethea 1:06:57

So I like to end every segment with what I call pass it on . So my last guest was Teontae Loves , and his message was don't worry about what anybody says , just be yourself . Just just be you 24 7 , just be you . What would your pass it on message be ? It could be something , something that you heard a like . What would that message be ?

Calvin 1:07:32

I got one . So I say , because I don't know why I like this one Don't be the moment , be the movement . And I guess anything in life it doesn't have to be music related . Be the movement , not the moment , because you want to be remembered for you . So don't be the moment . Don't be a gimmick . Don't be the moment . Be the movement . Be the people people want to look up to and follow .

Calvin 1:07:56

And that goes for your cousins . Be the movement for them , I say . For me , I would say always , don't give a fuck . This is on a rebellious standpoint . I'm very rebellious . I will say I'm the person that's gonna tell you don't , let nobody tell you what the fuck you can't do . At the end of

Pass It On and Heartfelt Closing

Calvin 1:08:15

the day , you only live one motherfucking life and you don't want to be 60 , 70 and be like , oh , I wish I should have done this . I wish I could have been this . Because how many times god forbid how many times we heard that , yeah , and I try to do everything so I don't have to worry , I came , came out very early , so I don't have to worry , and be 70 and be like , oh , I wish I came out . No , do everything you want to do now . All your passions , all your goals , all your desires . Fuck what anybody got to say . Be your motherfucking self and be unapologetically . You bitch , because when you're in that grave , you're going to be in the grave by yourself , no-transcript . So keep living that truth of yours , period .

Alethea 1:08:56

Wait , Wait . So so let me tell you that if you see me using this in my videos , I'm going to tag you because of this Period .

The Twins 1:09:13

You're going to do that at the end too In the video . You got to go Period .

Calvin 1:09:17

Period . This was amazing . I really thank you for this . I really appreciate it .

Alethea 1:09:27

Oh , my God , thank y'all . Y'all are living proof that resilience , joy , authenticity will always win . Yes , y'all didn't just survive , y'all thrived . Ooh , I love that Y'all thrived . And you are still here . Yes , you are still here . Through everything , everything that you've overcome , every obstacle that you had to face , everybody that left you behind , that thought that you were going to break . You're still here , yes , and that is not a reason to be proud of you . I don't know what is .

Calvin 1:10:26

I love you so much . I'm so glad We've been meeting such great people . I feel like and I think God is saying something and we've been meeting the correct people and they're bringing the right people in our paths and we want to really , really thank you . We were talking about this . You're like , oh , she's so great . I cannot wait until we meet you .

Alethea 1:10:46

That has always been my prayer to send the right , because I just don't take anybody on my podcast like I have to , like I have to kind of know a little bit about you , yeah , and I , when I tell you I love y'all and let me be , I know that I am not first , but I want to tell you out of my mouth I am extremely , extremely proud of you , uh-huh .

The Twins 1:11:20

Don't make me cry Hold on no no .

Alethea 1:11:25

You know , people don't say that , so no , but I'm telling you this I am proud of you and everything that you have overcome , and I know that . I know that I know that there will be a time that everybody is going to know your name . There will be a time where Calvin and Clinton are going to be at award shows . There will be a time that you are going to be on national TV and they're going to be Spellman twins . Spellman twins , Spellman twins that's the name that you're going to hear , because that's what you you are moving mountains right now no , I appreciate that you are moving , I was , about to cry when I'm , when my nose starts .

Alethea 1:12:21

No , like I just I just really needed to tell you this from my heart for people not only me , but people like my son that need people like you to be role models , because that's what you are , thank you . You are role models , so I love this for you , and anytime that you want to come back , you are more than welcome to sit in the passenger seat with me . Yes , okay .

Calvin 1:13:00

Oh yes , we locked in . We're going to be more in the passenger seat .

The Twins 1:13:04

We're going to be going to dinner .

Calvin 1:13:06

Yeah , we got to go eat .

The Twins 1:13:06

We got , we're going to .

Alethea 1:13:10

Oh , do not go nowhere , because we gonna talk . Everybody listening , watching , choose you , choose you , cause there is nobody there ain't nobody do it better than you , ain't nobody do it better than you , you the best , you , you , you , the best , you the best , you the best , you the best , you the best , you the best . All right , remember that shit as you go out there and be great in they face and I'm going to need y'all to help me out , because if y'all follow me , then y'all know what I'm about to do y'all go out there and be great in their face and , as always , y'all have a good day on purpose here . You're welcome , period , you won't stop .