In The Passenger Seat with Alethea Crimmins

You Don't Shrink Yourself to Make Others Comfortable: Terrell Grice on Success, Haters, and Staying True

Alethea Crimmins Season 3 Episode 16

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What happens when you refuse to dim your light for others' comfort? When you set firm boundaries without apology? When you decide to keep winning despite the whispers of doubt around you? 

YouTube superstar Terrell Grice joins me to share his remarkable journey from Southern church choir singer to creator of "The Terrell Show" with 2.2 million subscribers. With his trademark warmth and wisdom, Terrell reveals how his talk show empire began as "one giant accident" – a divine assignment he wasn't initially seeking but was perfectly prepared to fulfill.

"How you can shut your haters down immediately is you keep on winning," Terrell explains, offering a masterclass in maintaining your stride when others hope to see you stumble. His refreshing perspective on success comes from someone who's lived it – creating his own lane when traditional paths weren't available and refusing to compromise his authenticity along the way.

Our conversation takes a vulnerable turn when we discuss the unexpected loneliness that accompanies achievement. "It got lonely fast," Terrell admits, sharing how relationships transform when your star rises and the painful necessity of setting boundaries with people you once considered close. His candid reflections on therapy and protecting his peace offer valuable guidance for anyone navigating similar waters.

Terrell also delivers a powerful message to listeners struggling with self-confidence: "You are beautiful... It is not like I need to do this thing to become it. You are." This affirmation challenges our tendency to postpone self-acceptance until reaching some external standard.

His parting wisdom perfectly encapsulates our time together: "Take the time to be grateful for the answers to the prayers you prayed yesterday." Before rushing to the next challenge, acknowledge how far you've already come. Remember, "Being great is not about proving anybody wrong. It's about proving yourself right."

Ready to shine brighter and stand taller in your truth? This episode will light the way forward.

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Speaker 1:

Hello, hello, hello, and welcome back to In the Passenger Seat with your hype girl, alethea Crimmins, where we don't just take the wheel, we own the whole damn road. Okay, I am your host and on this episode, y'all I am so excited. It is all about showing up, showing out and shutting down the nonsense. Showing out and shutting down the nonsense. We are talking about being great in their face, setting boundaries like a boss and refusing to give up, no matter who is doubting you. So, baby, buckle up, because we are about to drop some what Truth bombs. Because if there's anything I do, baby, I will tell you the truth. I will not tell you a lie. Okay, okay. So that is what the title of this episode is Be great in their face, set boundaries and keep going, no matter who is watching. Be great and let them watch. Be great and let them watch.

Speaker 1:

Listen, some people are going to doubt you, they are going to talk about you and they secretly hope that you fail. And you know what to say. If y'all Southern, like me, oh, bless your heart, which really means something else. But keep winning sub-mails, but keep winning, keep winning. That's how you shut your haters down, because haters stand for having anger towards everybody reaching what Success. How you can shut your haters down immediately is you keep on winning. Keep winning.

Speaker 1:

Do not shrink yourself to make other people comfortable, baby. That's not your job. Your job is to not make people comfortable. If you're making them uncomfortable, you are doing your job. You will not dim your light just because somebody else is squinting. Let me tell you something, baby you are the sun, you are ultraviolet, and how you know that you have haters. If you look directly in the sun, what does your face do when you walk in a room? What your haters do? That's because you shine so bright, honey, that you illuminate the entire room. When you walk in, your greatness walks in with you. When you walk in the room, your potential walks in with you. You shut your haters down when you win.

Speaker 1:

And, baby, I have the perfect person on this show who is the epitome of I'm going to keep winning, no matter who's watching. I'm going to be great in their face, no matter who's watching. Listen, I have admired this person from season one. I have admired his story. I have admired where he came from. He has 2.24 million subscribers. Baby, you come from zero to 2.24 million doing something that he loves. Music is what he loves. He has his own show not one show, but he has two shows and he also has a game. Also, and we're gonna talk about all that. If you do not know who this person is, roll the clip hey girl, how you doing.

Speaker 2:

Bring it back to me. How did you? This is Plank Club, you're not that twerk in the back. You better get it Bang bang on that wind.

Speaker 3:

Tell me what I found. Yeah, I didn't know. Miss Newberry, bring it back.

Speaker 4:

The word is water.

Speaker 3:

Let's not wait till the water runs dry. We might let our whole life pass us by. It's kind of hard. Something told me it was over.

Speaker 4:

Wow.

Speaker 3:

When I saw you in that world walking no, no, no, no, no Love it.

Speaker 1:

Let me introduce you to the YouTube superstar. Let me introduce you to the host of the.

Speaker 3:

Terrell Show. Hello Terrell.

Speaker 4:

Girl. The doors of the church are open. I guess, ma'am, that's how you open the show. Alicia, minister, talk to them. Oh, my god, that was. I needed to hear every word myself.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so happy to be here oh, I am so happy to have you. For the people who I don't know, who would not know who you are, can you please introduce yourself? Like you've had people from Kelly Clarkson to Layla Hathaway to Kiki Palmer, like you've had, like it's. So please tell us who you are and what you do.

Speaker 4:

Baby, I just had to keep it real short and sweet. My name is Terrell Grice and I am God's favorite. Okay, apparently.

Speaker 3:

Apparently.

Speaker 1:

It'll take too long. Wait, wait, wait, huh, run that back.

Speaker 4:

Who are you? My name is Terrell and I just happen to be God's favorite. Now you got to take that up with him. Okay, I didn't choose me, he chose me.

Speaker 1:

Because when you choose yourself, you ain't got to wait for nobody else to choose you. When you know who you are, then nobody else has to tell you who you are. Who are you. You just told yourself and the world exactly who you are, so you don't have to wait for permission to be, anything else than exactly who you are you better come on this. This is the type of energy I like almost you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4:

You know what I'm saying? We're not from the same cloth, to be honest. I mean, the positivity that you exude is what we need more of. You can never have too much positive energy, especially in times like this. We're not even going to get. You know what I'm saying. I look to my left, I look to my right. It's negativity. I can't live like that, neither can I? I'm in a voice. We got to speak life into people and you do that I'm so proud of you listen.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much. I am so proud of you because you, like myself, started from humble beginnings. Like you, you are a southern, southern boy, like I am a southern girl grew up in in church, singing in people's people's choir, singing amen, hallelujah, amen you you.

Speaker 1:

We grew up the same way and you learned these musical techniques and you use the gifts that were given to you and you created your own lane. You created your own reality. You could have listened to all of the haters. You could have listened to the name sayers. You could have said, well, yeah, y'all, y'all right, maybe I should just do gospel, maybe I should just do this. But you said that's not what I was called to do.

Speaker 4:

Amen, you've been reading my diary.

Speaker 1:

Don't you start shouting. Don't you start shouting.

Speaker 4:

Because I will. Ok, we in trying times. I'm looking for this to shout All right, but what you said is so absolutely accurate. I think that you know, growing up in the South and growing up in church, I like to say I would have never chosen a different childhood. It exposed me to so much. First of all, church is funny. Ok, growing up in church was it was half salvation, half comedy store. I love just sitting in one of the front of the rows. You know, my grandmother was the Sunday school teacher, the minister. She stayed late, she cooked the chicken, she did everything.

Speaker 3:

So I was there so many hats you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4:

I was there four out of seven days a week doing something and it was just so fun to see community and that's where I learned the foundation of love and what it means to help people and be a light in people's life. And, of course, that's where I learned the music. You, too, I heard your theme song. Let's not blow past that Theme song sound good, miss Ma'am. Yes, I heard it. Don't act like that, wasn't you? I heard it. Don't act like that, wasn't you? I heard you. All right, we're going to see you on the wall next.

Speaker 1:

I'm coming and I'm coming because listen, that has always been a dream of mine. Like, please don't.

Speaker 4:

We can make it, we can figure it out, sorrell please, please, don't have my heart beating out my chest.

Speaker 1:

Y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all heard me.

Speaker 4:

Your word is heart. Okay, you got 11 seconds.

Speaker 3:

Huh, damn it. Unbreak my heart. Say you love me again, undo this hurt you cause. When heart say you love me again, undo this hurt you caused. When you walked out the door and I walked out of my life. Under all these tears I cried so many nights honey break my heart, my heart, my heart Okay.

Speaker 4:

You better not put Ms Braxton out of business. Don't do that. She's got shows to do. She's got shows to do.

Speaker 1:

No warming up. Okay, that is just me.

Speaker 3:

I love it. Oh, my God.

Speaker 4:

You did great, beautiful voice. But that's what I'm saying. When you go up in the church, you, you, it's almost like when I went to high school and stuff, I was surprised to find out that people could not sing. I just thought it was something that everybody learned how to do, like can you, can you talk? Well, you must be able to say and hold that note oh, you can't do that. Oh, you got to go to Cindy's service, were you not at choir practice? What did you miss?

Speaker 1:

And know how to sing alto soprano tenor, because I can do all three. Come on and know how to harmonize and, like you, got to know it yeah.

Speaker 4:

Because when we say you got to fill in for them, and know every word and know every part, know every part.

Speaker 1:

So what. Okay or you're going to get popped In the back of your and that's the worst type of hurt when they get you right here and it's like damn what, what brought you? Like, what made you because a lot of people will say, well, what brought you from there to here like what made you say, let me do my talk show, or or was that even a thing?

Speaker 4:

Can I tell you, alethea, it was all one giant accident. I did not plan this whatsoever. I had my heart set out on being a producer and I still produce. I produce my own show, but I was never, ever running to be in front of the camera. I went to film school to be a music video director, ended up becoming an editor. Things happen as you learn. I don't want to do that, no more. I like editing. Then I moved to LA to continue doing that and ended up in reality TV. I'm like casting. I was not on nobody's show. Please let me get that.

Speaker 1:

Because I was like casting, I was not on nobody's show.

Speaker 4:

Please, let me get that.

Speaker 1:

Because I was like Iggy, look it up right now.

Speaker 4:

I was doing casting and then I became a producer for reality TV and then, throughout learning all of that, all those different skills, I'm like you know what I feel like I've learned so much that I can start my own thing. I would like to start my own show, and music has always been just the underbelly of my entire life, no matter what I was doing. Music was my fallback, was my comfort zone, my escapism. So I wanted to do a show about music, you know. But I had no plans on being the host.

Speaker 4:

As a matter of fact, when my team was, when we were figuring out how to produce the show, we had full-blown auditions, we had casting calls to find the host of what is now the Terrell Show, and the way that I was so picky, baby, I didn't want, no, I was like nope, nope, nope, not right, not right, not right, not enough, there's too much of this. I was just putting my little team through it. And these are professional casting people, by the way, they're putting people on the Voice on American Idol. They do this, and I was giving them hell. So eventually we were like all right, terrell, since you're so damn picky, you get on the camera, show us what you're looking for and then we will put that out and see if that attracts the energy you want. Well, we we did that a couple of times and I guess I'm still doing that because I'm still on this camera and I am still producing example episodes. I'm still looking for the host.

Speaker 1:

Just kidding, no, no do you want me to tell you why this is? Sometimes we don't listen like we read me because we we always ask god I just need to hear a word from you, and then when god gives us the word. We do like, like we can't hear him. God gave torell an assignment. He did not give Terrell an assignment to pass the assignment on to somebody else. He gave Terrell an assignment because when God has something for you, it is for who?

Speaker 2:

It is for me, and it's not for anybody else.

Speaker 3:

It's not for anybody else.

Speaker 1:

And this is why you are now on season seven meanwhile, thinking I was gonna get past season two.

Speaker 4:

At the end of every season I was like, oh, I did my big one. That was it now. Let's go on back to our nice cozy life, my cubicle or my corner office at fox, let's just go ahead and go back. And then it just kept getting bigger. The opportunities kept coming. I kept walking in the purpose, no matter how rugged it got. I was, you know, at first it was giving nice pavement, then things started to happen. It was giving cobblestone, then it was giving dirt road, then it's giving off-road, then it'll be paved for a little bit of time. A little more pavement, feel a little safe. Then it get rocky again.

Speaker 4:

And I think it is nothing but my faith that has kept me walking, no matter the terrain, because this is not easy. The way that we do this show, with all these big stars and big moments. These shows usually take a lot of people and it's like four or five of us, and it is such a respected show as well. People come right in the middle of their press runs. They've left me to go to Jimmy Kimmel on the same day, so it's just like it's got to be nothing but God and a testament to no matter what you were saying earlier, no matter what it looks like in front of you, you just got to keep walking. You ain't even got to walk fast. Just one foot in front of the other.

Speaker 1:

Because the race is not given to the swift.

Speaker 4:

I'm about to get up. Where's the tambourine? I'm about to Give me one more. Do it again.

Speaker 3:

I mean like this Listen.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Your journey is your journey and only you could take this. And when you said I'm walking in my purpose, you said I'm walking in my purpose, meaning this is what I was supposed to do. No matter how hard it is, I'm going to endure, I'm going to keep fighting because this is what I'm supposed to do. Walk in your greatness, even when people say you can't do it. Let's talk about the ones that say oh, you know who they are because they will refer to your things as his list show. Oh, you know Torella shows. You know it was like cute or whatever, but I mean you know his list show. How did you deal with that?

Speaker 4:

Showed him the receipts. This little show didn't save careers. This little show didn't revive careers. This little show didn't turn people's album singles upside down, Wasn't charting and look, there is some chart now. Oh my God, Look at you. Talk of the town. You got to let the work speak for itself. Sometimes I don't like to be too loud on me. I like to. I like to put out the work and let it be loud for me. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

People don't want that back. Run that back, run that back Because somebody missed it. Somebody missed it.

Speaker 4:

Let me give it again. I don't like to be loud on me, I like to put the work out and let it be loud for me, because that's what it is all about At the end of the day.

Speaker 4:

I know, who I am and I know my skill set. I know my talents. Me and God talk about it all the time, because sometimes he has to remind me. He has to remind me, but what I do like to do is utilize those skills and present them. We're public facing, so it's not like our work is just between me and myself. It is judged. I'm putting it out there to be judged and the best feeling that I get is when I put something out there and somebody has to go all right, he did that, he did that. You know what I mean. It's like yes, that's what I did, thank you, and I'm going to do it again. As long as God is willing, I'm going to do it again.

Speaker 1:

Can I tell you I am extremely I don't know how many times you've heard this and you don't know me from a can of paint, but sometimes people need to hear I am proud of you. Sometimes I am proud of you because some people would have given up. Some people would said this is my big one, that's it.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it crosses the mind. As things come up and you're challenged, it is human nature to want to regain your comfort. Go back to the place in which you were not feeling challenged and, um, you know, I just have to remind myself okay, 12,. As this show gets bigger, you're going to have more challenges and the show is not going to not get bigger. Okay, the show is only going to grow because we're we have a show that has purpose. It has me, it does, and it is uplifting people.

Speaker 4:

And as I'm walking about the streets and people walk up to me and tell me what the show is doing, it is nothing but reaffirming that the show is important for people and it ain't got to be important to everybody, but it's important to the ones that it needs to be important for. That's right. When the show grows, more challenges will be bestowed upon you and you just got to lock in. You got to lock in because giving up is so easy to do. And I want to say this too Breaks are fine, breaks are okay, they're encouraged. Taking steps back doesn't mean you're losing progress. You're just taking a step back to assess. You're like, okay. Step back to assess. You're like, okay, I got this here and I got that there. What you don't want to do is throw your hands completely up and lose all that progress that you spent years doing, because the thing about time is it keeps going and you can never get it back.

Speaker 2:

So if you give, up.

Speaker 4:

you have to look at it as in like did you waste it? You might have wasted it. You can't waste it. You'd already. You're invested now, baby. Okay, this blue wall is here, so you better figure it out. It ain't going nowhere, it ain't going nowhere, so you got to keep moving.

Speaker 1:

You mentioned challenges several times and I know for me and for other people that are in our niche and do what we do and do what you do, success comes at a price and sometimes it can be very lonely at the top and people who you thought was right, like I'm here for you, like that's my dog go ahead go out you.

Speaker 1:

You realize that. Oh well, now that I'm here and you not, and I'm here, we not as cool as what I thought we were like. We not at the level that I thought that we were. And now I have to set a boundary, which, which is a bad word. I have to set a boundary, which is something I never thought I would have to do with you, since somebody who I called my friend, somebody who I called my friend, somebody who I called my brother. Now a boundary has to be created. How is that, when you want to take these people with you, you want to be that friend, you want to be that brother, you want to be that person, but you're everybody can't go with you.

Speaker 4:

You see me blinking real fast, cause you about to make me cry.

Speaker 1:

Everybody on my show cries at some point.

Speaker 4:

My God, it's um. It just happens to be something that I'm currently going through. That is very hard, and you know I try to be as transparent and as vulnerable as I possibly can be and you know that that what you're saying is just hitting um because it is lonely, and it got lonely fast. Actually, it wasn't something that, uh, necessarily crept up, um, and then it just got lonelier over time.

Speaker 4:

And the thing that gives me peace is protecting, learning how to better protect my space and guard my heart, because, coming from where we're, southern people, we're very trustworthy, very forgiving, very open people, and those things are not the best traits If you want to navigate this crazy world of entertainment. It's good to have, but you will be susceptible to people taking advantage of you and for lack of a better term doing you wrong, and it can be hurtful and there is no way to avoid it. You just have to understand that you're called for a purpose and a plan and with that territory comes jealousy, anger and a real usury spirit. They get a real usury spirit on them and the only thing that you can do to keep yourself together is say I'm doing it right, this is just the price of it, I'm not doing anything wrong, because I used to be really hard on myself.

Speaker 3:

I used to think I'm doing.

Speaker 4:

I must be doing this wrong and this wrong and this wrong. I must be the drama, because it's always somebody you know and I had to go to therapy for that, to be honest with you Still in it, just trying to figure out, lord, how do I continue to grow and continue to love what I do? Because people can really piss you out of your passion if you let them, and you can't let that happen. Okay, because people are people, your passion is your passion, those two things. You can't let them affect each other you know.

Speaker 4:

So I've been working on it, friend. I'm not even going to tell you I got a good nugget to tell you and to tell your audience how to get through it. It's a work in progress.

Speaker 1:

It is through it. It's a work in progress. It is and I'm gonna just piggyback off of what you said because we have been taught to be nice. We've been taught to be accommodating this. This is what we've been taught. We've been taught not to rock the boat, but guess what? The boat sinks because you're carrying too many people with you. The boat sinks because you're carrying too many people with you who do, who does not respect your time, your energy or your peace, and that peace is priceless. Yeah, your energy is priceless, and if you carrying too many people on your ship, that ship is going to sink. I always ask people whose peace means more, whose happiness means more, and in that process, you have to let some people go because you mean more if I ain't got no peace for myself, I ain't got nothing to give you, that's for sure.

Speaker 4:

I ain't got no happiness to give you if I'm miserable. So I've been getting better at it. Also, when you are a generally positive person, the weight just gets thrown on you, right? Because everybody needs you to inject some positivity into their lives, and sometimes we can deplete ourselves in that process. So you got to be careful. You got to be careful and learning every day how to take care of myself as much as I try to take care of others. It's something I'm going to struggle with until the day I am called home. It is just in my nature to give more than I receive. So you just got to find that balance and keep it pushing.

Speaker 1:

Listen, sometimes finding balance is a very difficult thing because, just like you, like, I want to be here for you. I want to be here for you. I want to do this. I also want to take care of myself, and we know that self-care is the the best care. But sometimes that's hard, it's hard to take care of yourself when you're used to being the strong one I've always been strong everybody I'm always to take care, especially when you reach a certain level of success, then there are expectations that come along with it.

Speaker 1:

Like you are obligated to take care of me, no, no, not, no, not.

Speaker 4:

No.

Speaker 1:

I am obligated to take care of me.

Speaker 4:

Yes, that's true, but it's also, you know, I love it. I love being in the position to be able to help. You know and you know I do a lot of stuff very much in private that I don't you know. People see what I do on the show, right, how I am uplifting people and they'd uplift me too, by the way, but how I'm trying to make sure that if you were upset or sad or down when you clicked on the video, by the end of it you feel a little bit better. I love having that opportunity to do that, but sometimes late at night I just be like woo cover me Lord.

Speaker 4:

Cover me, I'm tired. I'm also a Virgo. I'm a work. Okay, One thing about it we gonna work. So it's a lot to juggle, but you know can't complain.

Speaker 1:

But you, you are doing the Lord's work because your show is positive and every episode I watch, it does not matter what time of the day, it does not matter if it's at two o'clock in the morning. To to rail, I used to wait until a new episode dropped, like, like, like, like. I would stay up at night and wait because I knew that it was going to be something that my spirit needed. You always left the show feeling better than when you started it. This is, this is what you put out. You put out that type of positivity that you don't even realize the souls of people that you touch through music, through your joy. You bring me joy. What watching other people sing, because I'm just like, what, what? What is his reaction gonna be? What is he gonna do? Like, what is it.

Speaker 1:

Yes, fall out of this, it'd be real too now I know that you had a a wide array of people come. What are your three favorite moments, or three favorite?

Speaker 4:

oh, oh, you can't do it. Okay, I'm sorry. Now listen, I don't have the greatest memory so I'm sure I'm going to leave zone out, but I will try my best. I think one that always comes to mind is Cynthia Erivo's episode. That episode was it felt like an out-of-body experience, if that makes sense, when she's saying I am here, listen, right here in my face, I'm going to be honest with you. I did not know what to do. I got so hot, my body got hot and I just started crying. Yes, you know what I mean. Like that moment to witness somebody's talent like that.

Speaker 4:

And her talent is more than just singing. She's a beautiful voice and actress, two-time Oscar nominee, all that. But the way that she emotes, the way that she tells a story through her instrument is something I have not experienced. Often that moment hands down. That's got to be one. This is tough, okay. Two, I'm gonna say oh, I have to say finding my best friend, coco jones, oh my god. Well, I actually I don't know if I've ever said this before, but I was not super familiar with who she was before she came on the show.

Speaker 4:

I learned about her through people telling me you should get this girl named Coco Jones on the show, because by the time she stepped on the Disney track I was already a little bit aged out. She's about five years younger than me, so I did not really know who she was. So I researched her. I was like, oh, she seems like a cool person, let's bring her on. And on that particular day that she came I wasn't feeling my best. I wasn't.

Speaker 4:

You know, with these, with these interview shows, as you know, there are sometimes booked weeks, if not months, in advance, so you don't know if you're going to be feeling your best by the time that the episode is being produced. But it's on the calendar. You got to get up, got to go to work, so she came in and I'm like, oh, my goodness, how am I going to get through this? And the way that, as soon as that camera started rolling, the way that she lifted me, I almost felt like she could feel that I needed to be lifted in that episode. Usually I was doing all the lifting and she came in and she helped me out so much that day that when I finished the video I felt better. I felt like the audience member for the first time on that episode and when she left.

Speaker 4:

I said we're going to do this again. We're going to do something together, and that's how T and Coco, my other show, was birthed.

Speaker 1:

Yes, she had me at something yes.

Speaker 4:

She is an incredible singer. We did the concert recently. Oh, it's just so many things, but let me see, let me give you one more yes, one more. Let's give you one that you were not going to expect. Okay, maybe you will expect this, but I think at the end of season six, when I had the pleasure of hosting Kelly Rowland, michelle Williams, latoya and Latavia on the show in the same week, that might have ate a little bit Like you.

Speaker 1:

I was, I was like you know what. I was like Terrell is really that dude. I was like that can't, can't at that, not not at that moment, because it was several moments where I was like can't nobody do what he doing. Moments where I was like can't nobody do what he doing, can't nobody come and try to replicate this, because it nobody will ever be able to do this like you.

Speaker 4:

It's wild, it's, it's such a um. You know, I always uh. Whenever somebody asks me like how did you do it? Or like if you have any tips for me, my answer is always the simplest answer you got to stick to what you know. Don't try to go out there and do some research on what's trending or research on what you see somebody pop and be like I want to do that. That was not God's plan for you. That is not the purpose that he has on your life. You have to keep what makes you unique and exploit that. Okay, I'm from the South, I love my liquor. I'm a homosexual, I love Jesus. All right, all wrapped in one person. If I try to diminish one thing for the other and you're a vegetarian, period okay, oh no, not a vegetarian, what'd you say?

Speaker 1:

A pussitarian? That's what I am. Oh, period, ah.

Speaker 4:

Oh, that took me home. I love it so much, so you get it. And it's like if I were to try to be like okay, you know what the audience might not like this so much. Let me pull back on this it would have not hit the same. You are all these things wrapped up in one, because it's what makes you unique. People want to watch you for you. They don't want to watch you as a copy of somebody else, because they can just go to the source and get it how it's supposed to be okay god okay huh, what happened?

Speaker 1:

okay god, okay I, I, I hear you Was it for you.

Speaker 1:

Because, it'd be for me too, because just yesterday, just yesterday, somebody said well, maybe you need to try and do this. Well, maybe you need to do something different. Well, maybe you need to not be Alethea, when everybody has always known me to be me, and it almost made me be like, well, maybe I do need to do something different, maybe I do need to change who I am. But then here you come saying, nah, like, stay true to who you are, because this, this is what people want.

Speaker 3:

People want you.

Speaker 4:

People want you. I always like to say this I love advice, I love, you know, feedback, constructive criticism, I love it. But at the end of the day, if anything that is brought to my table, brought to my desk, and it's going to change my heart, it's going to change who I've been since I've been on this planet. It's going to change how I see the world. That's not advice for me, that's advice for you. That's how you see the world, so you need to go find somebody who's doing it like that and get your life Okay.

Speaker 4:

I love your advice Cause you want to see me when I assume I need a something, I need a something. I don't think closed ears do anything for anybody. I'm going to listen but while I'm listening, if it changes who I am in my DNA and how I see the world, then I know that advice it wasn't for me, it was for you and I want you to live your life.

Speaker 1:

Baby. I hope that somebody other than me received this, because I thank you for that. That was confirmation.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Come on, we're going to have to have a good old talk after this. While we are on the subject of giving people what they want to hear, we are in a segment of the show called Hype Me Up. My listeners either put a question or a comment that they need help with and you get to help me hype them up.

Speaker 4:

I love this. Okay, cool, cool, let's do it.

Speaker 1:

You get to help me hype them up, ignatius, what is the question of the day that we have? I want to say that she said that I am not confident about who I am. And how do I get confidence? I can't even go outside because I'm ashamed of how I look.

Speaker 4:

Oh my goodness, Do you want to go first, or should I?

Speaker 1:

Since you are the guest go ahead.

Speaker 4:

Oh my goodness, it breaks my heart to read it, to be honest, because when I think about beauty, oh my, I don't. There's no box. There's no box that you can put beauty in and be like this is what beautiful is. When you wake up in the morning, I speak for myself. When I wake up in the morning, this eye is crested shut. This is the drool that is coming down.

Speaker 4:

The last reject Wig shifted to the side. If I got the throw out, it's flat. Sometime I done did too much at the buffet. I'm walking a little slow, walking a little heavy. And you know what I'm still going to say every time you, the finest nigga I have ever seen in my life. Okay, in my life I ain't never seen nobody like you. I know, and I'd like to say this baby, everybody, I don't know of a single person that has thought of themselves like you. Know what? I don't feel beautiful today, or I don't feel beautiful in this moment. That is very natural. But the the word beautiful, you are beautiful, you are. It is not like I need to do this thing to become it. You are. That it's synonymous, it's the same. Okay, if your name is, let's say, your name is Jennifer, jennifer beauty, it's the same. Okay, you walk out that door and you walk with pride.

Speaker 4:

Okay, because some people walk past somebody who got that same crust and they eye in the morning and they thought they couldn't get it out either. Okay, we all go through things and in terms of the word, the confidence word confidence takes time. You have to learn it.

Speaker 3:

I did not.

Speaker 4:

Some people, I will say, have a natural confidence. I did it. I had to learn how to really love every piece of me. Ok, so don't even feel like it's something that we're gifted with and that you can't learn and that you're never going to get it. You just have to be kind to yourself and know that we are all in this together, and sometimes it's going to be up, sometimes it's going to be down, but as long as you have one more good moment, one more good minute, one more good hour than you had the day before, you're doing good.

Speaker 1:

So let me so how, terrell, come on my show and out positivity queen me, oh shit.

Speaker 3:

I'm just.

Speaker 1:

Because here I am like You're done, because I'm what.

Speaker 3:

You bring it out of me. You bring it out of me. I'm just like this.

Speaker 4:

Oh my God, I can't you set the table. That's what I'm saying. When you set a table like this for people to come on and be able to have an open conversation, it's a tough question, right? It's a real question. That question is not unique. It is probably more proper than the opposite. So these conversations need platforms like this so people can really get into it.

Speaker 1:

Yes, Well, girl, listen what I am going to tell you. First of all, girl, baby, come here, come, come, come, come close. Let me talk to you and look in your eyeball Honey, you are everything and everything is you. Sexy has no size chart. Sexy has no age limit. If you think sexy, you are sexy. If you think beautiful, you are beautiful. What are you telling yourself that you are? Are you telling yourself that you are? Listen, god created you in his image. Just sit right there right there, that's perfect he's perfect.

Speaker 1:

So what does that make you? If you were created from the same canvas, then what does? That make you, it makes perfect. It makes you perfect in every sense of the word. So you do not have to change yourself for the world. The world needs to change itself to adapt to you.

Speaker 4:

Yes, period. You did just fine. You didn't need me girl, please.

Speaker 1:

I love that, yes, and don't wait for nobody else to tell you that you're beautiful. Tell yourself, you do not need validation from anybody nobody say this all the time the only thing that I will ever need validated in my life is my parking and what I'm gonna love you for the rest of my life.

Speaker 4:

That line is so good. Oh, that line is so good. Now, if I say that line, I'm gonna credit you okay, because that's good, I mean I'm dropping, dropping little nugget, nuggets when I can.

Speaker 1:

good, I'm just like this is just me all day and all night. Now what I'm noticing, because I was low-key hating, but I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna let you talk, talk, talk about, wait, let me, let me, let me do like the, the like haters do your, your, your little background, little background, what's?

Speaker 4:

this is new and we are getting the exclusive, because this background is for what? So the troll show has been synonymous with the blue wall. Since the troll show started, right, correct and what's hilarious, and people don't really know that. This happens to me all the time and I've had this idea since the first time it happened, since, I think, maybe season three.

Speaker 4:

I ran into someone there like Terrell, I would love to do your show, but I cannot sing, like I'm not ever going to go up there and play in your audience space like that. I cannot sing, play in your audience, things like that I cannot say. And this was an actress who came up to me and said this and I was like you know, one day I'm going to figure out how to invite more, you know, notable people, friends who don't work in the music industry, but we can still have a little nice conversation and, you know, catch up and spill some tea. So for the last four years I've been trying to figure out what that looks like and here we are. So this is my other set for like the supplemental part of the Terrell show in which, if you cannot hold the notes, you sit in this chair, okay, in front of this slightly blue wall, and then we'll have conversations.

Speaker 1:

I can hum and I can make it sound like something. So, yeah, so I can, I can come on there. Yes, come on, and I'm coming before I let you go listen. I have enjoyed having you. I hope that this is not your last time and I it brings me joy because I know how busy you are and I'm going to try to get through this that you came on my show not knowing who I was, not knowing how big I was. I don't have all these numbers, I'm not famous per se, but just the fact that you took time and you said, ok, I am going to come on her show. You have no idea, I'm going to remember this for the rest of my life.

Speaker 3:

I had to.

Speaker 4:

You are absolutely stunning. I watched when it came in and they said, like this is what you know, this show would like to do, this podcast like to do. They showed me a couple of things. I'm like yes, immediately, yes, immediately. Yes, because we need you. We need you to continue speaking life into people. We need you to continue spreading a message that you understand that it's popular to be negative. You understand that if you want the click, a little click bait would help, but that does not serve your heart. It doesn't serve anybody's heart, and I tend to gravitate towards people who lead with their heart, and that is what you do Always.

Speaker 1:

When.

Speaker 4:

I first started out, I had people who came on my show when I didn't have this, that and the third because they believed in me. So it's a cycle. You're only missing a blessing when you decline stuff like this. You are doing God's work, so declining you will be declining him.

Speaker 4:

So what we are going to do is, if I can do my part to make sure people understand you and find you and will follow you and the who are you following. Okay, so that means I help people come closer to him through you, through him. It all works together, okay. So when you walk in your purpose, I'm going to walk side by side, I'm going to walk there right with you, so you keep going.

Speaker 1:

You hear me, you're not going to make me cry on my damn show, get him off.

Speaker 4:

Yes, yes, once you hit that button, I'm staying right here. Yes, yes, my pleasure, it's a fantastic show you keep going. It's a fantastic show. You keep going. It's going to be bigger than you imagine oh okay, I'm a gangster.

Speaker 1:

Oh okay, so before we, you tell everybody where to find you all the things. The last segment of the show is called Pass it On. We had my last guest, michelle Gomez, an amazing actress. Her Pass it On message was simply this Keep it simple, stupid.

Speaker 4:

I love that I say that all the time. Keep it simple, stupid, simple, stupid. I love that I said it all the time.

Speaker 1:

So what is your pass it on message? Either for some somebody that is listening or to the next guest that comes on. What is a message that you want to pass on? I'll be getting y'all.

Speaker 4:

This is good. Okay, I would say this Take the time to be grateful for the answers to the prayers you prayed yesterday.

Speaker 1:

Oh, say that one more time, Because somebody this went over somebody's head. Say it again, please.

Speaker 2:

Take some time to be grateful for the answers to the prayers you prayed yesterday or the day before that or the year before that, because sometimes we forget that our prayer was answered, because now we have a new prayer.

Speaker 4:

But you got to stay grateful, gracious, humble, because you are in a better spot and if you aren't, you will be. So when you get that, even though you have a new prayer or a new problem, take some time to be grateful for those prayers that you were on your knees praying that have been answered, before you complain about your next prayers. That's still on the way.

Speaker 1:

Listen, y'all sometimes things look dark. Sometimes things look dark For daylight saving time. I woke up and it was dark outside. I'm thinking it's like midnight or something. I look at my watch it's still daytime. So just because it looks dark outside does not mean that it is actually dark. It's still light. Baby, you got to make it that way. Just because you see darkness outside does not mean that there is darkness inside of you. Amen, there is darkness inside of your situation. You create the light.

Speaker 4:

Amen, and I'm taking that one with me. God is good.

Speaker 1:

So can you please tell everybody all things, terrell, where to find you, what is coming up next? Everything, that is all you.

Speaker 4:

Season seven of the Terrell Show is currently airing. So many amazing things are coming up this season. This is a very different season than all the ones in the past. The blue wall is still here to stay, but we got this new set. We've got concerts. I'm going out on location talking to people. Listen, baby, this show, this is a season like you've never seen it before. So if you go to the Terrell show anywhere or just type in my name, terrell Grice, you'll find it and you'll find a little bit of joy to keep your day going.

Speaker 1:

Listen, guys, being great is not about proving anybody wrong. It's about proving yourself right. It's about knowing your worth, setting boundaries, protecting your peace and pushing forward even when the odds are not in your favor. So go out there and be great in their face and let them watch, let them talk and, while they do, keep winning, keep winning. I am so happy that you are a part of this show. Alright family, that is a wrap. If you enjoyed this, if this spoke to you, like, subscribe, comment. Know that you are everything is. You know that you are the shits, the whole shit, and nothing but the what the shit. So as you go out there and be great in they face, remember that you are fabulous, honey and, as always, you have a good day on purpose.