Can AI Replace A Lift Plan?

Most people on-site won't read a lift plan. Gheorghe Busuioc built an AI to fix that.

In this episode of the UK Construction Podcast, Jimmy Webb sits down with Gheorghe Busuioc, founder of Construct Tech, to explore how technology is transforming lifting operations in the UK construction industry.

Gheorghe shares his journey from gate man and slinger signaller to building one of the most innovative lifting solutions in the UK — combining AI-generated lift plans, 3D visuals, training videos, QR codes, and a digital daily checks app into one powerful system.

They dive into why traditional lift plans are often ignored on site, how Construct Tech is working directly with manufacturers to revolutionise access to lifting equipment, and what the future looks like for lifting operations — including VR safety training and 4D building simulations.

Whether you're an AP, site manager, crane operator or just curious about where construction tech is heading — this one is not to be missed.

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Transcript

GHEORGHE:

What you see right now we created our AI for lifting. We are probably the only one we got their own in-house AI. So what this does is using our formats, our lift plan formats and scheduler lifts and generating exactly what we're working on. 

So for example if you're doing something new a platform and we've got a temporary works design, well we take these files all the drawings and everything adding to the AI and you will start generating. It will start generating for us and we tell this you also you need to add this, you also you need to do this. It's also started you know creating the sketch as well. 

So when we're giving all the information like how many lifting points, how many you know sets of chains and so on so on and then lifting accessories then he will start creating his own thing to start creating this with the VRs. So in to the next year if this going out and it works all right we're gonna create a VR system and you can see yourself in real time. You can see yourself you know on the edge of the building with no harnesses when you look back and just fall and that's why we're thinking that will give you a bit more emotions and they're trying to create these buildings.

JIMMY:

Yeah, yeah that's good. And then people when watching that videos and you see yourself at the edge with no harness probably you know next time when it's gonna go back on the building he will use it. Our company went in with that sort of system what you just said so that it showed people going into the building and showed the like an interactive thing where you walk inside and you can walk into different rooms and different areas. 

But the other company they will turn up on top of a clipboard and a piece of paper so you can tell which person that the client went for the more professional one yeah.

GHEORGHE:

Exactly. Yeah it's just it's just so much more professional and so much more interactive where you can visually see what's happening.

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Join us for your weekly deep dive into the beating heart of UK Construction. From groundbreaking projects to game-changing innovations, the UK Construction podcast brings you face-to-face with the industry's brightest minds and boldest thinkers. Each episode features candid conversations with construction leaders, architects, engineers and on-site experts who share their hard-won insights and behind-the-scenes perspectives. 

We cut through the noise to deliver actionable intelligence on market trends, emerging technologies and the forces shaping British building. Hello everyone. We're covering an area that I work in today, lifting operations. 

JIMMY:

We have Georgie. Georgie is the founder of Construct Tech. How are you doing Georgie? 

GHEORGHE:

Okay yeah I'm all right Jimmy. 

JIMMY:

How are you mate? 

GHEORGHE:

I'm all right mate. 

JIMMY:

Thanks for coming on man. I appreciate it.

GHEORGHE:

Thanks for asking mate. Yeah let's start with who you are. A brief introduction then who you are and what you do. 

What Construct Tech is? So people that know me I'm doing lifting for over a decade. I started when I was 25 and I've been doing you know starting from the bottom like everyone else. I started from the gate mail laboring and then 10-11 years ago I started in the banking craze.

So the story goes back from London Bridge where I'm working now. Yeah so I started you know the station of the London Bridge station. Yeah. So I was there for the piling companies and when we started I was a traffic marshal. One of the Scottish guys said to me do you want to try banking craze and I remember they were I think they were HTC craze and I was like hmm. I was a bit like yeah but yeah and then he said to me I'll tell you what to say and that's why I started. 

Then the next couple of weeks I was on the course of slinging and since then that's what I'm doing every day. Okay so for those who don't know banking craze that's giving instructions to crane operators as a slinger signaller giving them directions that sort of stuff yeah. So you did that and then how long did you do that for a slinger? Slinger for around one year and then I've done my supervisor.

Yeah and I've done supervisor for eight years seven eight years and then and then AAP like everyone else. Well yeah well yeah not everyone else some people some people don't want the responsibility of becoming an AP do they? It's a lot of responsibility. Yes yeah probably you're right but most of the people that I know they they just go for for the AP or they'd still be in the supervisor but they got the AP ticket as well. 

JIMMY:

Yeah yeah yeah so what gaps what gaps did you see in your career that made you want to create something new? 

GHEORGHE:

Okay so that goes back when I started with one of the companies one of the largest now in the UK so when when I went out I looked through the paperwork like all the other jobs what I find out it was just using pictures from different leaf plants and I saw the same same pictures from years and years ago I saw across all the leaf plants from from different companies in the UK. 

So that's what I started and I was thinking why don't we have our own pictures to create our own system to create our own format so that's why I start working for them and probably like I wasn't the only one but I start creating my own format and that's what I'm gonna look back because you will see my format it looks similar with the one from NOCM because I thought what's the better leaf plant than the one is already out there and it's on a NOCM so after I improved that one just you will see when we start sharing the screen so I'm going to show you how it looks my old my leaf plants.

So I'll start working on that one and create that for what I was thinking I need for my own client and that's why it was the moment when I said okay we're going to use the same pictures across our leaf plants so we start from that point and then um then we were like you know what I think we can do a better pictures I start looking into other companies on the market the big brands big companies they already are there so they already start doing in 3Ds but the only problem when they start doing in 3Ds they start adding their environment.

You know the sides other excavators other cranes buildings only problem is when you print it and you send it to a client or it's got you know a bad printer or it's running low on link on the inks or you need to see a bit more details that's the problem.

Because you can't see that on the paper you need to zoom it. So I said, no you know what we're going to take out just the leaf and we're just breaking down so we're going to see the leaf and then you're going to see all the important bits and pieces. Where you hook the chains, where you're wrapping well, if you have any edge protections. You know things like that. 

So we start breaking down every each leaf. We start breaking in pieces, so our users when they go in that specific page, he will see exactly everything. All the details are there and that is in the picture, but then when you drop down, you will see all the other information. 

So what we say in our industry — the first bit, the pictures, is for site, and everything else is for management.

JIMMY:
Yeah, I totally get it.

I know full well, as most people in lifting know, when you first go on a job, you have to sign the lift plan. And every lift — most lift plans are pretty generic, mostly the same.

You see the same pictures that you’ve seen on the last job, and the job before that, and the job before that. It’s all the same information.

A lot of the time, some operators just say, “Oh, just show me where to sign. I don’t need to look at all this — just show me where to sign,” because it’s all the same.

And a lot of the time as well, with so much information, you get a big document like that that you have to look through. It’s just a lot to go through.

So you’ve kind of simplified that as well. You’ve made it more interactive, I think, haven’t you? A bit more interesting.

GHEORGHE:
So that’s why we went to the next step.

We said, alright — we’ve got all these documents. But like you said, people will see the pictures and think, “Alright, I already know all of this.”

So we said, okay — let’s add training videos.

For new people who are not in the game yet, they can look at the lift. Or people coming from another background — like installing windows or groundworks.

For example, when it comes to RC frame and lifting concrete skips, some of them probably don’t know how to use it.

Because I’ve had a few slingers — they were looking at the skip and didn’t know what to do, or they were landing it the wrong way around.

So I thought, let’s create something. Because pictures only tell you one thing, and that’s it.

Let’s create videos that show everything — not just the lift.

So that’s when we started adding the 3D videos.

GHEORGHE (continued):
I think someone has done it before — another company, years ago — but they never integrated it into the document and updated it to modern standards.

So that’s what we’re trying to do. We’re speaking to other APs — from clients and main contractors — and working together to create new training videos.

We’re adding these videos into our documents.

Then we thought — how do people actually use this on site? How do they apply these videos to real scenarios?

So we started creating our servers.

Each client has their own server where they can see lift plans anywhere, on any device, and watch the videos from anywhere.

You just click the QR code, and it takes you straight to the video.

So you can have that document anywhere and everywhere.

JIMMY:
Wow, so it’s all digital.

That’s really good, because — particularly when I’m up the crane — if there’s a specific lift I’m not sure about, I have to call the AP and ask, “How do we do this, mate?”

Then they say, “Let me just check,” and they have to go to the office, find the lift plan, look through the paperwork — it’s a long process.

So for me to just scan a QR code and bring it up on my phone — it’s so much quicker and easier, isn’t it?

GHEORGHE:
Yeah, that’s for everyone. Everyone has access to it.

When you go for your induction, you’re going to have your folder.

What we do now — we still provide physical documents as well, for external use, health and safety, clients, and main contractors — when they want something signed on paper.

It’s available for everyone in the office.

But we also have contact folders where everything goes straight to your phone.

Everything we’re working on with the client — all the searches, copies of cards, documentation — everything is on your phone.

JIMMY:
So this is an app?

GHEORGHE:
Yes — it’s like we’re building a server. We also have an app, which we’ll talk about.

But this is just the server for the lift plan.

JIMMY:
Right. So you’ve also got a two-in-one lift plan, haven’t you?

You’ve got extra things in the lift plan where people can find items to hire — things that are in the plan itself.

GHEORGHE:
Yes, exactly. That’s the new thing now — thanks for asking that.

So when we create this document, we put everything together, and we ask ourselves — what’s the next step? Because we’re always trying to push it further.

I think this is going to be one of the first of its kind.

We started talking to manufacturers — all the big names in the market right now. They’re creating platforms, concrete skips, chain boxes, manholes — everything.

So we said, let’s collaborate directly with manufacturers.

We use their products in our lift plans and include all their information — sizes, branding, everything — directly in the document.

Then our clients can access where to hire or buy it.

GHEORGHE (continued):
So like I said earlier, you scan the QR code and it takes you straight there.

You get all the details about that product — and you can hire or buy it directly.

I think this is a really good thing.

JIMMY:
It is a good thing.

The only thing is — does it show pricing when you go into that information?

GHEORGHE:
No, that’s down to the manufacturer.

It takes you straight to their website, their contact details — then it’s between you and them, depending on how long you want to hire it for.

JIMMY:
Yeah, okay — that makes sense.

I think this is really good for the industry. It’s a good bit of innovation.

So why don’t we start your screen share and show the viewers how it works?

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GHEORGHE:

Right now, no, I don't, I have videos. Let me send the videos.So what we're doing is basically, if you see this on, it's all over the place now. It's on YouTube, TikToks, and everywhere. People start now, you know, especially in construction, start creating their whole process of, you know, of building from starting from the ground works to all the way to the top, all the facade and everything.

GHEORGHE:

So that's what we start to create. At the minute, we're working on a project, but that would take time to finish it. That would take sometimes three or four months to finish it.

GHEORGHE:

So that's why I can't share anything with you because it's still on the project. As soon as we got some images and everything, we're going to post it on LinkedIn as well. So this is like a progress report, basically showing the job from the beginning to the end for the client, yeah? Exactly.

GHEORGHE:

To show how it's going. So we take that progress sheet, we talk to the client, and this is what we're starting, starting creating this. Like you can see there's a video as well.

GHEORGHE:

We can create videos that people can share on social media how the building is, instructions and ground works. Yeah. But also very important is with our systems, when we create drawings as well, so our clients is going to have access to, we see in real life, you can see columns, walls, you know, facade and everything.

GHEORGHE:

So what we also do when we come to the end of this project, we integrate this 3D building into an app so our clients, they can go literally inside the building and you can see the whole layout, you can see windows, you can see where the walls are, where the windows are and the doors. So this is quite new for us as well. We built, you know, in the beginning with all of this, but it's going to be something beautiful.

JIMMY:

Yeah. I think that is the way forward. That is the future.

JIMMY:

You get, you know, I probably shouldn't disclose this, but so my company, we tendered for a job, not my company, a company I worked for tendered for a job and one of our main competitors were tendering as well. So they, so our company went in with that sort of system, what you just said, so that it showed people going into the building and showed the, like an interactive thing where you walk inside and you can walk into different rooms and different areas. But the other company, they will turn up on top of a clipboard and a piece of paper.

JIMMY:

So you can tell which person that the client went for, the more professional one, yeah? Exactly. Yeah. It's just so much more professional and so much more interactive where you can visually see what's happening when you sort of like feel part of it.

JIMMY:

That's one of the most important things as well. But after we create all these files in 3D, so the client, he can literally, he can see the building, but it's just in 3D, you know, like a finished way. Yeah.

GHEORGHE:

But also after what we're doing this, we have another service, then our clients, he can go and see that in real life. And how we do that, that's with the 3D cameras. We can have these services and go inside and scan everything.

GHEORGHE:

And the clients see all of this in real life. You can just sit in the office, go on the software, click down, you can see what's going on on basement three or level one or level three. You can see all the materials and everything.

GHEORGHE:

So we do this in a wiki places. We go in scanning the floors, scanning the buildings, you know, all the laid down areas. And our clients, you just, you can sit in an office and just literally you can see everything.

JIMMY:

Wicked. Love it. That's good.

JIMMY:

That's good. Let's talk about the app. Okay.

JIMMY:

So yeah, the app, how we started, we started two years ago. This is one of our first products as well. We started presenting this for one of the companies I used to work for as a part of daily checks on lifting equipment, like excavators, cranes, telehandlers, dumpers and so on.

JIMMY:

Because every time we're in there, when I used to do my inspections, everyone is forgot a paperwork in office. Everyone is missing a pen. They didn't have a pen to do the checks and all these problems on site.

JIMMY:

So I was thinking, why are we not just creating something easy for everyone? Everyone has got access to a phone. Everyone has got a smartphone nowadays. So I said, okay, let me create something easier for everyone.

JIMMY:

So that's what I put together and created my first service for daily checks. How it works. So we were thinking, okay, so how everyone can make it easy for everyone to understand how you work.

JIMMY:

So we're creating a small sticker. Then you can have a QR code and you can have NFC. You just tap your phone on the sticker and you get your form already on your phone.

JIMMY:

And we've got two options. One, you just scroll down and you just click, click, click. Or the other one, you're going to have cards.

JIMMY:

You just swap left and right. And you're just taking pictures to bits and pieces of the excavator. Sometimes, you know, random pictures or the crane.

JIMMY:

Because we have this to change for the cranes. As you know, you're a tower crane driver. On excavator, it's quite easy.

JIMMY:

You just step out, take pictures, go back in. Easy as that. We were thinking, okay, what about the tower crane? Because once the driver is already up there and the random question is, take a picture of the whole thing.

JIMMY:

How's it going to happen? It's not going to climb down all the way down to take a picture of the whole thing. So, on the crane app, we have that freedom so you can add any pictures you like. Probably, this is a little talk between you and the side team or the crane supervisor and say, Jimmy, today I want you to take pictures of the boards on the way up or the cabin controllers or anything.

JIMMY:

So, that's between you and your side team. We were trying to implement that, but to be honest, it didn't work in any scenarios. So, for the tower crane, it's a bit different.

JIMMY:

But all the other cranes, mobile cranes, excavators and everything, it's quite easy. So, you just come in. You've got everything on your phone.

JIMMY:

After you finish your... This is very important. After you finish your daily checks as an operator, that very moment is going to send a PDF in less than a second to the site management, to the site team. And they will receive that PDF.

JIMMY:

But that's not a problem. But if you have any issues with that particular equipment, the app automatically will CC on the email, the plant app, or any feeder or third party you're working with. So, we're trying to cut the middleman.

JIMMY:

So, when you have a problem as a side team, you don't have to do anything because at the same time you receive that email, the feeder, you receive a notification as well. So, he knows. If he has a hub, that's quite easy.

JIMMY:

If he doesn't, he's going to receive an email. So, we have both options. And what else we implement now, we're working on the last six months.

JIMMY:

Every Friday, we've got some clients, they've got a Friday pack. They're calling when they gather all the information, all the receipts, invoices, and the daily checks for all the plants on site. And this is another problem, because that's why our clients are saying, yeah, George, that's good.

JIMMY:

But the problem is we need to go on email and start downloading each PDF. And that sometimes takes time. Because on the paper, every operator comes every Friday, there you go, mate.

JIMMY:

We're scanning and we're sending to our project managers. And I say, okay, hold on a minute. Let me try to create something.

JIMMY:

So, we integrate something new into that. And every Friday, he's going to send you a notification. He will merge all the PDFs on site for that week.

JIMMY:

And we send you a long report, all the daily checks from excavator cranes, mobile cranes, scissor lifts, anything. Anything is on the app, he's going to send you every Friday or whatever you want. It could be Saturday, it could be Sunday or Monday, which is to simplify everything.

JIMMY:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, everything is in just one hub, basically. Everything's just in one hub that you can just go to and just add to whenever you want to.

JIMMY:

So much easier and so much more organized than just a trail of paperwork all the time. It is and it works. And every week or two weeks, we're trying to add a bit more to the app.

JIMMY:

So, one of our options now, you have a receptions format. So, you receive an excavator or mobile crane, let's put it this way. You see a mobile crane on site and you see it's got a problem, leaking oil or a flat tire.

JIMMY:

That, you can do a receptions format, like you have already probably on the paper, except one sign in, there you go, mate. And then a few months later, when you're fired, that equipment, the hire come back to you and say, Jimmy, listen, we didn't have that before. We don't have that leaking oil when we send it to you.

JIMMY:

And you can't prove it. So, when we're trying to integrate this into the app, you go, you receive that on your phone, you do all your bits and pieces, all the details, and then you're going to start taking pictures. And when we take pictures, you do your own reception.

JIMMY:

That paper is going to go straight to the hirer. He will see your PDF. Okay, you've got leaking oil, you've got this, you've got a flat tire, a broken screen or anything, or a joystick, they will sign it.

JIMMY:

And then the form is going to come back to you. You sign it as well. And I will receive every one of the PDF notifications.

JIMMY:

It's all done. And then at the end, when you're fired, the equipment, you've got all the evidence and everything there. You don't have to do anything.

JIMMY:

Yes, so you're covered there. Yeah, absolutely. And you'll save loads of money on this site.

JIMMY:

Yeah, I think it's good for insurance purposes as well. So yeah, everyone's got it all there in black and white. You've got all the evidence.

GHEORGHE:

Exactly. That's what we're trying to do. And easy for everyone.

JIMMY:

Yeah. And you implement the lift plan onto this app as well. Is that right? Yes.

JIMMY:

Yeah, so you implement it on this one. But it's still at the beginning because at the minute, when we're trying to add in pages and scroll back and forward, everything works. The only problem is now with the training videos and everything to add into the app.

JIMMY:

And that will be a lot of information. And you need to connect to have access to this. You need to connect to the internet.

JIMMY:

Yeah. But what we're talking earlier about, you know, the daily checks, the only thing that we are different than everyone on the market, because I know there are some apps that is already doing, like, Google Forms, Microsoft Forms. Everyone can, you know, create the forms.

JIMMY:

And you just do your own thing. But why is our different, you know, than everyone else on the market? Because you can do it offline. Wow.

JIMMY:

Yes. Yeah. So you have a mobile crane somewhere in the woods or outside of, you know, cities.

JIMMY:

There's no problem. If you don't have a reception, no problem at all. Because you can still do your daily checks.

JIMMY:

You can still use the apps. And then as soon as you connect to the Wi-Fi or you have a better reception, you will send the forms automatically for you. Makes sense.

JIMMY:

Yeah. Makes sense. That's when we have a bit of a problem now, because we integrate the lift plans into the app.

JIMMY:

You don't have access to them if you're not online. Yeah. Sure.

JIMMY:

Sure. Yeah. That makes sense.

JIMMY:

I get that. But we keep it to the server because it's easier for everyone. Right.

JIMMY:

Okay. So what about amendments to the lift plan? So let's say something needs to be changed or wave lifting. You can update that on the server quickly enough, yeah? Yes.

JIMMY:

It takes, for our clients, it takes probably less than 24 hours. Right. Okay.

JIMMY:

Yeah. As soon as they need another, let's say, I don't know, a different platform or a different shutter or a different window, that takes us, with our system AI, it takes us less than 24 hours. So how many people? Sorry, go on.

JIMMY:

Yeah. So our clients are going to have straight into the server, so they don't have to do anything. They can just go there, download it, print it, sign it, done.

JIMMY:

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah.

JIMMY:

Cool. So how many people are in your team then? So it's myself. It's my wife.

JIMMY:

She's looking at all of the bits and pieces for me. I also have another AP called guys doing all the 3D videos. I've got someone to do all the media.

JIMMY:

That's a new girl. She's doing the media for us. Also, we work with people on a daily basis as well.

JIMMY:

So when we need, for example, a client in Scotland, we're getting someone from Scotland, and he does all the work for us. And we've got two guys on site at the minute. We are a very small team, so a very small team.

JIMMY:

We're not compared with people out there. And to be honest, Jimmy, we keep it that way no matter what. We're not going to take out all the clients on the market.

JIMMY:

We're trying to keep it not like a family business, but like a friend's business. So we're trying to keep it small and give it the best we can. I think that makes sense and keep it manageable really because some people do like to get big quickly and just can't manage it having got the cash flow, having got the time and the resources to manage the work.

JIMMY:

And then that produces low-quality work and produces unreliability. So, yeah, I think that's good. Keep it intimate and keep everyone close.

JIMMY:

Yeah. I learned that from Switzerland. I've been there a few times, and everyone in Switzerland has got his own little studios, you know, like friends gathering and starting new businesses.

JIMMY:

And you will see when you go to Switzerland, you're in the basement, you see all these small studios. They're doing, I don't know, they're doing jewelry, they're doing everything. So I was there quite a few times, and I said, I want something like that.

JIMMY:

I want something small, something that can be manageable with friends, people that I know, and I can look after them, and it's easy to work instead to start expanding. And I really love what I'm doing. Yeah.

JIMMY:

Yeah, good. Good. I love it.

JIMMY:

Yeah. I'm glad you're enjoying it, because it's not work when you love it, is it? It's not work when you're enjoying it that much. Exactly.

JIMMY:

Yeah. Exactly. And I've been doing, you know, websites and 3D since I was 14.

JIMMY:

Oh, really, yeah? Yeah, a very long time. Yeah, nearly 20 years. How did you know how to create a website at 14? I started to do this, I started even earlier than that, because my cousin, he had, back then it was Internet Cafe.

JIMMY:

I don't know if you had this here. Yeah. So my cousin, he was one of them.

JIMMY:

He had his own business with all the, you know, PCs. So I grew up basically, I grew up with a PC in front of me, and I was lucky because so many people did not have access to a PC or a laptop. So when I grew up, my cousin, he was one of these guys, he was trying to come up with something.

JIMMY:

So he teached me about a website, he teached me about coding, he teached me about web design, and that's how I started learning. And then suddenly he passed away, and I carry on doing what I'm doing, but I take it more serious to start, you know, web designing when I was 14, 15. Then I had my own good laptop and I started doing, you know, doing my own stuff.

JIMMY:

So you don't fancy doing that for people as well, web design for companies? Yes, I do web designing. Oh, you do? I've done it already for a few companies out there. Oh, okay.

JIMMY:

Yeah, because we don't add in our logos, we're not sharing that way. But yeah, I can send you some links and you can see, yeah, we can see, we've done it already for lifting companies as well. Okay.

JIMMY:

For lift companies, yeah. We don't have any, what are we saying, competitors. We're working together.

JIMMY:

So we've done web designing for lifting companies, we've done web designing for RC companies. Yeah, we've done a few, you know, web designing, yeah. Okay, that's good.

JIMMY:

So you provide CSCS assessors as well, is it? Yes. Yeah? Yes, this is another guy working with us, and he's doing all the CSCS assessment from level one to level seven. Right.

JIMMY:

Yeah, we provide our services as well for our clients. And one thing I wanted to say now, probably because this is going to be next year, it's going to come up, we're going to create our own training academy. Right.

JIMMY:

So our client is going to have an app, and what we've come up with this idea, and this is for everyone to understand, is we've been seeing this along my career in different jobs. We see a lack of information. Everyone is just going, read around cemento-steam and lift plants.

JIMMY:

The only problem is they don't understand a part of it. So we were creating these videos. We created these videos so we make sure a striker, he knows how to strike safely for you as a client.

JIMMY:

Because you've got one system for this company and another system for that company. I'm not saying it's not safe, but probably it's not in safety for that company standards. So what we're saying is, let's create something across our clients.

JIMMY:

Obviously, we change this, it's different from client to client. So we create these 3D training videos, and this is going to be probably apart from the induction process. So everyone, for example, a striker, you will see and watch the video how you strike a deck or column safely.

JIMMY:

And first aid as well. We're trying to add all this first aid work. We're trying mental health at the minute we're working on, water and environment.

JIMMY:

So we're trying to add all of these small training videos, and everyone has got that minimum standards of information. For example, first aid. At the minute, it's only two or three first aiders on site.

JIMMY:

They've been trained. What about if you train everyone? Everyone has got that minimum information. I'm not saying to have exactly like three days where you're going in and doing the course.

JIMMY:

But what about to have that information, how to give the first aid to someone injured or someone in mental health as well, to someone who is in need. So we're trying to create this video training and to everyone to have access to it. And not just training one or two person in a team.

JIMMY:

It's training everyone. 100%. I think that's brilliant.

JIMMY:

Yeah, 100%. Particularly with the mental health and the first aid. Because not enough people know of first aid in the industry properly anyway.

JIMMY:

I think that's brilliant. The only thing I would say is like the training videos, you know full well you're going to get... Let's talk about strikers. You know full well you're going to get a striker that's been doing it 30, 35 years, looking at that again.

JIMMY:

Why are you telling me how to strike a shot? I know what I'm doing. This is how I do it all the time. So they're probably not going to stick to that method.

JIMMY:

You know what I mean? Yeah, but that's not down to us. That's the supervisor and the side team. Well, yeah.

JIMMY:

We're doing everything what we can. But you're not going to see the videos that tell you how to strike, obviously. It's going to tell you the video how to check before you strike.

JIMMY:

All the safety control measures, all the safety standards, what to use, a hop-up or use a ladder, obviously. Use a hop-up or use podium steps. Why it's not all right to use a ladder? Why it's not all right to not use a harness? You know all this.

JIMMY:

You can see the videos of what people can happen if you don't use the harnesses. So when you're striking, I don't know, edge rotation, you'll see in the videos you can trip, you can fall. And you see all these scenarios in the videos.

JIMMY:

Yes. And this is why we come now. And I got this from a very good friend of mine.

JIMMY:

And he said to start creating this with the VRs. So into the next year, if this is going out and it works all right, we're going to create a VR system and you can see yourself in real time. You can see yourself on the edge of the building with no harnesses when you look back and just fall.

JIMMY:

And that's why we're thinking that will give you a bit more emotions. And they're trying to create these feelings. Yeah.

JIMMY:

You know? Yeah, that's good. And then people when watching that videos and you see yourself at the edge with no harness, probably next time when he's going to go back on the building, he will use it the right way. Yeah, I agree.

JIMMY:

I agree. And even the simple things, like the fundamental things, like have you got a permit to strike? You know, some people don't even check that. That's why it's all up.

JIMMY:

Yeah. Yeah. We do permits on our app as well.

JIMMY:

Yeah, exactly. So everyone can access there. So everyone can see the permits.

JIMMY:

Everyone can see everything. Yeah. Brilliant.

JIMMY:

So that pretty much wraps everything up, mate. So you mentioned the training videos in the future. What else do you have before we go? What else do you have lined up for the future? We got this training videos for our academy at the minute.

JIMMY:

Yeah. What we're doing now, we're changing what we're working on now. We're changing our pictures at the minute on all the lift plans.

JIMMY:

We're trying to create a bit more with details. We're trying to create a bit more realistic. And we're changing a few excavators as well to bring in a bit more life to it, you know.

JIMMY:

And at the minute, we're working on more videos for scheduler lifts. At the minute, we are going on attachment concrete bucket for excavators. And yeah, I think we've got a lot of work to do on this part of the videos and stuff.

JIMMY:

So that would take a bit of time. Probably next year. For sure.

JIMMY:

You also mentioned, just a bit of coincidences really, but you mentioned when we spoke on the phone, that you're creating imagery for the building that I'm working on. So I'm demolishing the Old Aviva building at One Undershaft. And eventually, they're going to be building a building as tall as the shaft.

JIMMY:

So you're actually, just off your own back, just creating what it's going to look like. Yeah. The 3D images.

GHEORGHE:

Yes. So we got our new system now, which this is the first one we're going to try. So that's why we're going to try this one.

So we're going to map all the area in the city of London. And then we're going to create from the scratch, your building, Undershaft. And we're going to put it right there, where was Aviva.

Like I told you, it's going to be like 4D and 3D as well. And you can now have access to the building and all the surroundings, the other building, and you see exactly how it looks in real life.

And this is going to be for the first time when we create this for customers. So this is going to be a new services coming up now. 

JIMMY:

Don't forget to put my crane in there with me in it. Waving. 

GHEORGHE:

I see from where I work now, I see your crane every day. Oh, do you? Really? Yeah. Because I'm right on the other side of the water. I'm by London Bridge. Oh, okay.

I can see when you're working and not working. 

JIMMY:

Do you know what? The amount of people that do see me, it's scary. I get people on TikTok and stuff, sending me pictures of what I'm doing. Say, get to work, Jim. You're being lazy and stuff like that. All the people in the offices around me.

JIMMY:

I'm in that Lloyds Bank building or I'm in this office and I'm watching you do this. I can't get away from anybody. Yeah.

JIMMY:

Listen. I see your crane and also, you need to know, you know, she's got it right next to you. Yeah.

GHEORGHE:

That was my first building I ever worked on. Oh, what did you do on there? That was in my beginnings when I started. I was a gate man, a trophy marshal.

Oh, okay. I was right in front of the gate every day. Yeah.

JIMMY:

For a few months. Yeah. And I was also, I've been in Aviva as well.

JIMMY:

Oh, right. Yeah. I've been once.

Yeah. Yeah. But that was like 11 years ago.

JIMMY:

Was you on 22 Bishopsgate? No. You weren't on that one, no? No. Right.

GHEORGHE:

But I think that one, it meant to be a pineapple building. Right. That was when they started. 

They started all the leaf shops and everything, but they stopped it for years. And then, I don't know if they took it down or just continue on the same leaf shops, but then they changed the name, changed the building designs, and then it was Bishopgate. Yeah. But at the very beginning, it was pineapple. 

JIMMY:

Oh, it was meant to look like a pineapple? That's why it was called. But if you Google it, you'll probably, you can see some news probably somewhere out there.

JIMMY:

It was pineapple, right next to the cheese grater. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, I'll have a look at that.

That would have been an interesting shaped building, wouldn't it? Yeah. I don't know if it was looking like a pineapple, but that's what it was called. Well, I imagine it would have been.

Yeah. Because all of them, yeah, all of them, the shapes, they look like what they're called, don't they, around the area or they're supposed to look like it. But interesting.

Yeah. So that's a bit of a coincidence. Yeah.

JIMMY:

So yeah, doing work on the building I'm on. It's good. And keep watching me.

Hopefully, we can meet up for a coffee. We were supposed to meet up the other day, but I was too busy. But I'm well up for that.

I'm well up for meeting up for a coffee or a cup of tea and have a chat about things, see what you're up to. 

GHEORGHE: 

And I'm not far from you, you know. I'm only like 10 minutes. Yeah. 50 minutes away from you. 

JIMMY:

Yeah. And hopefully, we can collaborate on a few things.