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Good Game: A Sunday Soldiers Podcast
Episode 07: Jaws, Fences & Beer Pong
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Prepare to be captivated as we welcome a legend of the Sunday Soldiers Fantasy Football League, Jaws & Fences, into our space. Promising a rollercoaster ride that takes you through the origin of his unique team name, Jaws & Fences plunge us into the vibrant atmosphere of the league's draft weekend poker tournaments.
You'd be hard-pressed not to find humor in the beer pong mishap that birthed the quirky team name, Jaws & Fences. This episode will also take you back to some legendary moments in the league, like the ill-fated first-round pick of Peyton Manning. We then shift gears to the annual poker tournament, revealing how it evolved from a simple gathering to a must-attend event, complete with its own traditions like Bazinga's Chili and Little Miss Blackberry.
As we near the end of the regular season, we dissect the standings, strategies, and the nail-biting competition for the final playoff spot. Jaws & Fences share their insights on these intense proceedings and offer a unique perspective on running a successful poker tournament. As we wrap up this episode, we send out our best wishes for the upcoming week's tournament, reminding all participants to bring their A-game. Join us for this entertaining ride filled with anecdotes, insights, and a dash of humor.
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Speaker 1And welcome to another episode of Good Game a Sunday Soldiers podcast . Welcome all to another episode of a Good Game podcast . I'm your host , Nick Netflix and Chill Winters , and your co-host .
Speaker 2Zach Cheese King Nemberte .
Speaker 1We've got another exciting episode where we'll take you behind the scenes with the Sunday Soldier Fantasy Football League . We'll introduce our latest guest , which we'll always provide further insight into this legendary league . We've got our latest guest , which is Jaws and Fences , a legendary Sunday Soldier player , but he's well known for his legendary draft weekend poker tournaments that everybody loves to participate in .
Speaker 2Yeah no , the best poker tournaments in the world .
Speaker 1Oh yeah , I mean , whether you're in the league or not , it draws a huge crowd . It draws a colorful crowd and has made for some colorful moments throughout the history of the Sunday Soldier League .
Speaker 2Absolutely .
Speaker 1And in fact that will lead into our latest Top 12 Sunday Soldier countdown , which will feature the Top 12 poker moments throughout the entire Sunday Soldier League .
Speaker 2Yeah , I mean there's got to be more than 12 , I'm sure . So narrowing it down to 12 is going to be fun to hear .
Speaker 1I mean , we could probably do like a Top 24 . We could probably do a . Top 36 . I will be amazed to find out how Jaws and Fences was able to narrow it down to the Top 12 . It's going to be interesting for sure . I know I'm going to wind up in there once , maybe twice , who knows ? We're also going to do our week review . It's weeks 12 through 13, . Right ?
Speaker 2Correct Yep .
Speaker 1We're coming up towards the end of the league playoff standings . Six-place point standings I mean it's getting juicy . There's a lot of numbers that our production team has broken down . That final place in playoffs .
Speaker 2A lot at stake here the next week .
Speaker 1So much at stake . We'll also review the bottom sevens and bottom seven point total , which will let you know how close that final playoff spot is . And , last but not least , we will highlight our league legendary moment , where we recap a moment in our league that we feel that if you could adopt for years , you can make your league legendary as well . But before we get started , let's take a listen from this week's sponsors . Pools Golf Club , created for couples that love golf and challenge that old adage that Saturdays and golf trips are just for the rules . Follow Pools Golf Club on Instagram , facebook , twitter , slash X and coming soon on TikTok .
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Speaker 3Yo yo yo JAWS and fences here , Netflix and chill Cheese kingdom . Thanks for the invite . It's an honor to be here in the good game studios . I love what you've done with the place . Thank you very much for the invite .
Speaker 1Excited , excited to have you here . So welcome to the podcast JAWS and fences . We're excited to share with our listeners a little bit about yourself , your history and this legendary lead . Why don't you start off by telling us about your team name , specifically its origin story and , to be honest listeners , your team name has been the one I've been most interested . Yeah , I think I came up with this question specifically for your team , so why don't you share with the listeners where JAWS and fences originated from ?
Speaker 3Sure , yeah , the name came about the second year in the league . I don't know if you Nick . You probably remember we used to play a little beer pong in the evenings after the draft .
Speaker 1That's right .
Speaker 3And for whatever reason , the beer pong really brought out the nastiness of us . I would say right .
Speaker 2Yep .
Speaker 3So you remember the OG legend draft Kings him and I weren't team playing beer pong , okay , and we're playing against . Hindered it , and possibly was it Superman yeah .
Speaker 1No , no , no , because I was playing with Superman . I don't know who it was but it's tendered it .
Speaker 3Yeah , so some big personalities , right , and I remember this was my second year in the league . I really didn't hang out with you guys much outside of draft day . Okay , hadn't built , you know , real relationships with anyone yet besides , maybe draft Kings , maybe diesel .
Speaker 1Yep .
Speaker 3But those games got pretty intense and quite competitive and I love tendered it .
Beer Pong Mishaps and League Memories
Speaker 3He is a special guy and I love him very , very much , but I think it's fair to say tendered it can be , let's call him an acquired taste , okay .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 3Right , he can instigate with the best of them .
Speaker 1He absolutely can .
Speaker 3So he was giving me quite the hard time during the spear pong match and I kept talking to draft Kings . I really didn't know , tendered it at the time , you know , hey , man , get your boy to calm down a little bit . You know , like he's kind of in my face , you know , I'm not really appreciating this , and eventually I believe they ended up beating us and tendered it . Let me , you know , he , let me hear about it , you know . And he was in my face and and eventually I had enough , you know , and so I walked up to him . You know , we got , you know , nose to nose . I tapped his jaw and told him I was going to send it over the fence If he didn't shut up . And so it wasn't my best moment . You know , I do feel bad about that . I love tendered it , he's a great guy . But from that day on the team name has been Jaws and Fences .
Speaker 1I love it . I think that is one of the most I mean . It goes down for me Like if I had to create a greatest moments in Sunday soldier history and I had to create my own top 12 , that's one of them before me .
Speaker 2I mean , yeah , I wasn't even in the league at the time , but just like the backstory that everybody has behind their name , it might be the best one in the league , but so far that we've heard , like there's , it's just , yeah , it's the backstory to it over that fence .
Speaker 3It was a classic moment . Joe's a tendered . It's a really good sport and , yeah , it's a great moment in the league history .
Speaker 1Oh , big time , I think . I think that that same beer that was probably . I think that might have been our last beer pong tournament , because we not only had that we had a few walk offs . Yeah , and then it was the other . It was Mo's vet and Dizzle me , and Superman , there was a swipe of that .
Speaker 2And there was . There was a . I've heard a couple of stories about the , about these beer pong games . Like I said , I wasn't in the league at the time , but yeah , it sounds like it got heated in .
Speaker 3We may have voted that we needed to eliminate beer pong to keep the league together .
Speaker 2All together .
Speaker 3Yeah , we were all much younger , you know , maybe a little more aggressive . You know a lot of beers , you know it's a competitive game , but yeah , it was getting out of line .
Speaker 1It was . It was . I mean I it's funny you say that , because I was just about to say that we should vote to bring it back .
Speaker 3Well , you know , 15 years later , maybe , maybe it would be okay .
Speaker 1My , my prevail . Oh , I love that story . All right , jaws and fences . Can you tell us when you joined this league , how it came about and the number of years you've been in it ?
Speaker 3Yeah , for sure . This is another great story . I'll never forget the year , and I'll get to that here in a little bit , but I joined the league in 2011 . And at the time , draft kings had invited me over to Dizzle's house just to hang out , have some beers . Uh , dizzle was cooking some tri-tips and I was going to meet everyone for the first time and just hang out with the boys , right ? Well , a member of the league , no , showed . So last second , this will ask me if I played fantasy football . I said yeah , of course , but I'm not in any leagues this year . But if you need someone , I'll jump in . So I jumped in .
Speaker 3Now you got to remember . I was completely unprepared . I was going over there to eat and have some beers , right , and I was in no other leagues that year , so I had done zero studying . Now , the reason I'll never forget it was 2011 is because my pit came around and I leaned on my boy at the time draft kings and whispered in his ear what's the deal with Manning's neck , is he good ? And he looks me dead in the eyes and he was being truthful . He's like oh , he's good bro . And so this is four time MVP at the time , manning , you know it may . I'm trying to remember . It was my first round pick , I think back in the day we , those quarterbacks , were going in the first round .
Speaker 3Oh yeah , because points at that time Different scoring , yeah , maybe Los .
Speaker 2I was just saying , was it still in Los and found a scoring system ?
Speaker 3Right , right , mvp is , you know , automatic buy week for the playoffs . So , anyways , you know , off draft kings advice , I drafted Manning and the reason I'll never forget that was my first year in the league , because Manning didn't throw a single pass that year . So that's the year he missed with his neck injury . So that was 2011 . So I've been in the league 11 , 12 years now at this point , Okay , Was , was was that made in the last year with the Colts . I believe it was .
Speaker 2I think he was right after that , because that's another MVP with the next year he threw for , you know , 50 , whatever touchdowns , 5000 something yards . And , yeah , he did it all the next year , because the next year , maybe the following year , a couple years after .
Speaker 3Yeah , I believe so .
Speaker 2That's some , that's some good advice , though , from for somebody .
Speaker 1Yeah , I mean draft king is draft king for a reason .
Speaker 3Yeah , he's had some legendary moments in the league himself . Yeah .
Speaker 1It's draft king is draft king , it's it's . It's not about the finish of the season , it's about the finish of the , the draft . That's what's most of it Like . If you had an award , I mean , for which we'd we do draft grade and you would like win I think he wins like 90% of the time .
Speaker 3Yeah , I remember when he was in the league , like every year , it never failed . You know the , the , the grade would come out and he was always an A , A plus and he was stoked and pumped and it just never , ever really resulted into any real results .
Speaker 1I feel like he , it was always a A plus on on his app , not necessarily .
Speaker 3Yeah , yeah , I mean legendary , that's my flex . I mean we'll never forget that . I think it was Emmanuel Sanders for like $42 .
Speaker 1That that , speaking of top 12 moments of all time , that is one of those things for me that goes on . It was like 40 bucks , no one else like bid manning his first year and the first words that a draft king's mouth would yes , that's my flex .
Speaker 2Yeah , that's something that I was even in the league for and I've you know , and I and I hear about it , you know , I know about it .
Speaker 1Legendary moment Right .
Speaker 2One of those , one of those times .
Speaker 1So good , so so good . All right . So in our league you can either win a championship , a last place award or a Bazinga award . Which awards have you won , how many times ? For each and any stories that come with that ?
Speaker 3Sure , this should be relatively easy . I didn't have to do much research on this one . So championships one that would be zero . In case you guys weren't aware of that . Bazinga awards one that would also be another zero .
Speaker 1Hey , that's .
Speaker 3I am proud of that one .
Speaker 2That's , yeah , that's good to not have one .
Speaker 3Last place trophies , that would also be zero . I mean another one you don't want .
Speaker 2They're so good and they're some bad , you know .
Speaker 3but what's crazy about it is in the history of the league . I don't think I've ever been nominated for the Bazinga award , I've never played in a championship game and , as far as I can remember , I've never played in the last place championship game .
Speaker 1Oh , that's good .
Speaker 3And you know my history . I just kind of fought around seventh place in mind my business right .
Speaker 2That good old seventh place it's . It can't beat it .
Speaker 1Someone has to be there . Someone's got to be Jeff Fisher right .
Speaker 3It is what it is .
Speaker 1There's nothing wrong with it at all , at all at all . Right , so , jaws , can you share with us ? Is there a moment for you , besides what we've talked about so far , that you know , a moment of memory or an event from from this league that kind of stands out above all , that you want to share with everybody out there ?
Speaker 3Oh , nick , there's so many , as you know . I mean , I flash back to the early days of us . I don't know if you remember us all eating pizza in the grotto Midnight . Yeah , 12 of us packed in there . There was the the rattlesnake catch the skin , the video we put out on it .
Draft Day Meals and Poker Tournaments
Speaker 3But one thing that really stands out is it involves Tenderditt . Tenderditt is known for his world-class draft day meals that he provides for everyone . I think we can all agree to that Absolutely .
Speaker 2This is true , absolutely .
Speaker 3So when Tenderditt is in town , he has random shipments show up to Dizzle's house all weekend . Right , They've been bottles of bourbon , expensive Japanese whiskey , and this one year there were two very large boxes . Dizzle comes in , he's like , well , what in the hell is this ? I don't know , man , they delivered it , right . Well , eventually Tenderditt walks in and Dizzle you know , hey , do you know what this is ? And you know he's like , oh , that's , that's the entree for for draft night dinner . Okay , cool , Do we need to get it in the cooler ? What do we need to do ?
Speaker 3You know , he calmly goes over to the boxes I mean , I'm talking large boxes here , right and he cuts them open and he reaches in and he starts pulling out live lobsters . I mean just a classic moment , right , Above and beyond anything you would expect . So we , you know , we spent the next few hours prepping the lobsters for dinner that night . But just an amazing night or a moment , right , we all took pictures and we helped them prep . It was such a fun activity , it was great . Just pulling out just a live lobster Well , it's the last thing , I think , anyone expected to come out of the box , right ?
Speaker 2Yeah , just like you said , so calmly , like it's no big deal .
Speaker 3A dozen live lobsters , no big deal .
Speaker 1That is hilarious . I love it Again . So many stories to choose from such a story past . So many hilarious moments , so many events , so many conflicts . Some events because of conflicts . That is great , awesome . Well , let's move on to our guest discussion . We're going to give Jaws and Fences a chance to you know offer behind the scenes . Look at the draft poker tournament that happens every year Friday night . It's something we all look forward to , so excited to allow Jaws and Fences to give you some insight as to what that is all about . All right , jaws and Fences , so you are known for these epic Friday night draft weekend poker tournaments . Can you please share with our listeners what all goes into these tournaments the planning , running the events , payouts , unruly players and some memorable moments .
Speaker 3Yeah sure , netflix and chill . I mean early on in the league history , I think you can remember . You know we typically always played poker Yep , many times though it would come together last second . You know the draft is over , we're drinking beers , let's get the poker game going . And we scrambled to get it going right . We always managed , you know we threw some , some blinds together and we played a tournament . Well , a few years of that I went to Dizzle and you know I requested approval to become the poker director for the league . I felt like we needed one . You know it was a tough process . The interview process was not easy . I mean , you guys , I'm sure Never is , never is . But you know Dizzle was willing to give me a try . So from that moment I kind of took over the planning of the event and Friday night was just going to be poker night from that point forward . Now , early on , do you remember I would scramble all around town for everyone that I knew that had poker chips .
Speaker 1I do remember this .
Speaker 3We had like seven different sets of poker chips in play and you know , the green were valued at 25 , the black were 100 , but there were , there was many , many different chips in play . There were times where we ran out of chips , yep , and we would use like a dice or something and that was worth 100 K because we literally had no poker chips left in play .
Speaker 1You got to start from somewhere .
Speaker 3You do and but so that was an improvement . It was organized , you know it went relatively smoothly , but enough was enough . You know , people gave me a job to do and I needed to perform . So I made the investment , bought a 3000 count chipset , a couple , a couple poker tables and some chairs , Yep , and this thing really blew up . So originally you remember it was the 12 soldiers played poker . Yeah , at one point when we were holding it in Bakersfield , I want to say that tournament grew to 3040 players . Yeah , the house was packed full capacity .
Speaker 1The Ragsdale estate when , when he had that , that the man cave , I mean , we were running , what was it ? Three tables .
Speaker 3Was it maybe four ? Three in the man cave and there was an outside table .
Speaker 1Oh , that's right , Because there was no more room yeah .
Speaker 3Man cave .
Speaker 3That man it was , it was big and I'm sure this it was the same for all you guys . But I would have friends come up to me throughout the year wanting to know if poker night was happening on draft weekend . Oh yeah , because after the tournament , if you got busted from the turn tournament , you hang around a little bit , you wait for that table to free up , and why do you do that ? That's all for this show today . I'm D-W . Catch the light video . Yes , sir , I think cash games Juicy , juicy , juicy cash games . Yeah , I mean , I think some people just busted out the tournament to get in the cash games . But so it's come a long ways . You know , two years ago we shifted the draft weekend or I should at this point , draft week right from California to Tennessee . So logistically , you know there were some issues there . Right , I can't exactly travel with 3000 poker chips and poker tables . Now we must give a big shout out to our commissioner . He has the reputation of being tight .
Speaker 1Okay , I'm fair to say I've heard right .
Speaker 3So I reached out to him and I expressed my concerns and I didn't have to push him too much and the next thing , you know , I get a picture of his credit card text text to me right , buy whatever you need to make this right . So you know me . We got poker tables , we got new poker chips , replica Bellagio poker chips , and I went all out .
Speaker 2Yeah , I remember this because it was a group message with the three of us and I remember the credit card being sent and it was just it was on from there . I remember getting texts it was in a side text with you of like , hey , you think , you think we're good with this and of course yeah , of course Fire it . Let's go we need it Right I ?
Speaker 3mean it was so good and I never had so much fun in my life than I did spending rags money .
Speaker 1I mean I , I think at the end of the day it it penciled out to be a work charity event in the end , just just just to make the numbers work , of course .
Speaker 3But it was trying to get JMFR to claim that somehow some way right .
Speaker 1But you know what's funny is ? I mean , you know , even though this , this , you know we've done a destination draft , we're still not playing with our 12 . Like it's no , we've got plus ones , we've got locals that like come out , we had two full tables this year .
Speaker 3We did , we did , and it's . It's really . It's a fun event . You know the majority of the crowd . They have their poker night shirt , whether that be some tropical theme shirt or a gambling theme , yep , and I think everyone really looks forward to it and has a fun time , and that's . That's all we're trying to do , right .
Speaker 1Oh yeah , I mean , it's I for us . I mean , if we're talking about a golf tournament , you know poker , poker tournament , draft weekend , or how it's catered by tenor did those are those things that just stand out , that we all look forward to . They all have that thing that we all look forward to . I mean , like you said , we all get dressed up for it .
Speaker 3Right .
Speaker 1Right , just like we get dressed up for draft day , we all get dressed up for poker night , because it is a huge event that we look forward to each and every year .
Speaker 3It's . It's really a good time that I think we all love . I think it's a good time to be able to play golf At this point . It runs pretty smoothly , you know , I think I think I know what everyone likes , what they're looking for in a tournament . The most critical part of it is probably making sure I have plenty of cash available . What makes a game go cash ? Yep , so when Jam afar wants to fire his seventh bullet into the tournament but he doesn't have any more cash on him , it's very easy for me to say shoot me a Venmo , here's your buy in , and that keeps the pot growing . It does so for anyone out there that wants to run a tournament or a juicy cash game . That's the most critical part is having funds available .
Speaker 1Yeah , I would say you know one , one , one thing . It's you know a visual thing that that was great at the old rags delisade , if you remember , I think . I think there was a total of three screens , two TVs and a drop down screen , and what do we have running on those screens during the tournament ?
Speaker 3Yeah , so we'll probably get into this in the top 12 countdown , got it , but we had the blinds and the payouts and the levels , the time remaining in the levels , we had it on , if I remember , three TV screens and I don't know what was that . A hundred and twenty inch projector , yes , just to keep things operating smoothly . Yep , no questions about you . Know what's the blind level ? How much time is left ?
Speaker 1So yeah , it worked out well . I mean I've never in my life participated in a private poker tournament that was run at that level with . I mean you had software that was telling you where it was , at how much time was left . Is you know ? Is it time to shove because blinds are going up ?
Speaker 3It was . It's the best . Now mistakes have been made on tournament night or poker night . I don't know if you guys remember the the the year . I thought it would be great to run a $20 rebuy tournament . So the thought process behind that was let's build a massive pot , yeah , with a $20 rebus , sure , just to show that we can do it . And we're all a bunch of DJs , right , yeah . But I'm also trying to play in this poker tournament and I would grab somewhere between three and five rebus and I was probably playing a hand every 10 minutes . I mean , I was sweating . I'm running back and forth , I'm running back and forth to the chips rebuy , rebuy , rebuy it was . It was crazy .
Speaker 2Yeah , I do remember that it was almost like you were the the last place finisher grabbing beers for everybody , beer grabbing chips for everybody instead .
Speaker 3Right , right , right yeah , and we actually had someone to do that that year , if I remember correctly . Would that be our , our commission , or diesel ?
Speaker 2Right yeah On on poker night and draft day , I believe that's right .
Speaker 3Epic moments I forgot about that , yeah .
Speaker 2So I mean , you weren't the last place , as we've went over already . You weren't a last place finisher , but that's just kind of how the you know . It felt like running around the room grabbing , grabbing chips for everybody , grabbing rebus , grabbing money from people like yeah , and it's a lot to keep track of the money too . Who's paid , who hasn't Right 100% .
Speaker 3So I mean I would get up , grab a rebuy for JMFR . Put it in front of them and I was playing a different table , before I could sit down in my chair he yelled rebuy again .
Speaker 1Was that the year that you just kind of had cash just coming out of your pockets ? Yeah , it was a mess .
Speaker 3So like I dedicate one of my pockets that night to the prize pool , right , yep , not getting anything mixed up , but it was a $20 rebuy , so everyone's giving me $20 bills all night . It was a mess , the accounting was a little sloppy , but we got it done . You know , it was a good night .
Speaker 1So good , so good . I just , I just look forward to it every each , each and every year . You know , and I mean I'm sure , I mean I , I the pot has grown year after year , and I mean even even now that we're doing a destination draft and and , and and , and we're lack some of , like , the players , because the majority of us live here locally , you know , in Bakersfield . Um , the the pot still grows . I mean the pot . In our last draft it was juicy .
Speaker 3Right , yeah , I mean considering it was two tables .
Speaker 1Yeah , I mean shout out to JMFR for juicing that .
Speaker 3Yeah , there was a few that juiced it . There always is right , you know and and you love to see it , you do , you do .
Speaker 1I mean you pretty much are not going to count on Netflix and chill juicing that pot . Yeah , netflix and chill is plus one .
Speaker 3They're not going to juice it , but shout out to your plus one . She finished , yeah .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 3She was a part of that chop this year yeah .
Speaker 1Yeah , she was really excited . I mean she , she won a golf tour attorney .
Speaker 3Right .
Speaker 1She chopped , chopped and uh , she scored a touchdown .
Speaker 3Yeah , you know she is like I blew the coverage on that one she could thank me for that she walked away from that trip .
Speaker 1In her mind , she was a winner .
Speaker 3I was going to sack you on that play .
Speaker 1Oh , my gosh , my gosh In any other insight to the poker tournaments that you wish to share . Before we jump into our next segment , I think that's it .
Speaker 3You know , it's a really fun event . Everyone has a good time . I'd like to see old man flash participate at some point , but I understand he's just not there yet . He's not comfortable . Hopefully we can get him involved at some
Counting Down Top Poker Moments
Speaker 3point .
Speaker 1I mean involved in , I mean playing fantasy football poker .
Speaker 3There's , there's so many levels , maybe all the above .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah , I mean , you know what ? Yeah , yeah , I , I , I would as well . Well , awesome . Well , jaws and fences uh , appreciate that insight into these epic poker attorneys . Like I can't wait for 2024 , for our next one . It's only going to get better , uh , now on to our next discussion , alrighty , so let's jump into our top 12 Sunday soldier countdown . It's our latest in entry . We're excited to bring it to you each and every week , uh , about our amazing league . This week we are going to countdown the top poker moments in Sunday soldier history . Uh , brought to you by Jaws and fences . I'm going to count it down from 12 to one . Jaws and fences is going to provide , uh , some color commentary , some stories , some history behind all these . So let's jump into it . Uh , so , coming in at number 12 in the top poker moments and Sunday soldier history , we've got the tradition of Bazinga's chili before the tournament and little miss blackberry , oh yeah .
Speaker 3Right Now you could argue Bazinga's chili could be ranked number one . I'm not going to lie , it's , it's that good .
Speaker 1It's something we look forward to .
Speaker 3You know , Bazinga will cook some chili for the boys . He'll also cook up some tri tip , a tender that's been known to make some homemade cornbread for everyone .
Speaker 1That's right .
Speaker 3Um , I think last year we didn't get the chili , we didn't get the tri tip . That probably is what held me back from pushing this up all the way to one Yep . So , bazinga , I know you're going to listen to this bring it back , man . We love it , we need it , we do . Um , either you bring it back or you give up that recipe . That's right , the secret recipe . It's one or the other .
Speaker 1Yeah , I think , I think , I think , uh , what was it two years ago ? And ended up being like a group effort with a bunch of the soldiers to help them kind of put that together . I think that's something that we need to do again . You know , if it's a group effort , we need to get back , because Bazinga's chili is just that thing that we all look forward to . It's . It is synonymous with poker night , right ? It's one of those things that they go hand in hand .
Speaker 3We do and we need to bring it back . So , bazinga , please , please , bring it back . And then , little miss Blackberry is something we it's been a tradition , uh , most years . When we can find it , cause it's it's difficult to find , we bust out a few bottles , open it up . Everyone gets a little . Poor matter of fact , we're drinking it now , boys . Can we get just a regular cheers , since I'm here tonight ?
Speaker 2We'll do two of them .
Speaker 1A poker tournament cheers , all right Cheers boys Cheers , I love it .
Speaker 2Champ , cheers , champ cheers .
Speaker 3You guys need me to take a picture or anything . But it's just it's tradition and I love it . It had to make the list , so I love it .
Speaker 1I love it . So , coming in at number 11 , mosvets history . This is funny because we just know it . Uh , mosvets history of not knowing the blinds .
Speaker 3Yeah , classic Moes . Right . Early on , when I started directing the tournaments , I would print out just one sheet of paper with the blinds right , 20 minute levels . They're not going to change for 20 minutes . You know the blinds are 100 , 200 , right . But as the tournament director , mosul , would always come to me and ask me what the blinds are , fair enough . So I would tell them , and this repeated for a few years . So then I would print out six sheets and , just you know , lay one in Mosul's seat . He would lose it and constantly ask me the blinds . Well then I had to , you know , find some software and that's honestly how we got to software to putting it on the TV screens in the projector .
Speaker 1Nice .
Speaker 3Mine was blown Pretty sure I have it Still didn't know , he would still ask me what the blinds were .
Speaker 1Not surprised .
Speaker 3So yeah , I love me some Moes vet and you know it wouldn't be a poker night if he didn't ask me the blinds , so we had to get that on the list .
Speaker 1I love it . I love it Coming in at number 10 . I'm going to laugh at all these because they're so iconic Bazinga eating pizza at the poker table with a martini glass full of ranch .
Speaker 3It's just one of those images that get that gets burned in your mind and it's just there forever . Yeah , classic moment . There's pictures of it out there . There is I'm . I guess the thought process was he wanted to keep one hand free to play poker and he could just dip that slice of pizza in that martini glass . I mean , smart move . I'm not hating on it , no , no , I'm not saying I'll never try that move Right , but it's just an image that makes me laugh and a great memory .
Speaker 1I love it . I love it . Yeah , it's something I think we all . That might be somebody's contact photo on their iPhone . I don't know who it is in our group , but I think somebody has that as their contact photo of the Zynga , it's so good yeah , coming in at number nine . Oh yeah , this is good . I love this , lois , and found Netflix and chill play heads up all night .
Speaker 3Yeah , another classic moment . So the tournament ends , cash games get going . They're always juicy . I don't remember exactly if I crashed at Dizzle's house . I want to say I went home and the next day was draft day , so I arrived relatively early . Tender day was going to whip up some breakfast for the boys . So I get there and I see Lois looking very , very tired and Netflix and chill , packing up and so I questioned like what's going on ? And you guys said you played heads up , no limit , hold them poker all night . You keep in mind this was like eight nine am .
Speaker 1And it's draft day .
Speaker 3It's draft day . You were panicked .
Speaker 1I was panicked . My plus one picked me up , took me home . I think I got maybe an hour and a half two hours for the sleep , and it was rough . This though , my buy in was taken care of from that heads up tourney , and now I hey in my defense . I can't tell you how many times I tried to chop that pot for like literally four or five hours .
Speaker 3Let me tell you something . You get a character like Loson , found heads up and wants to play you . You stay up 72 straight hours if you have to . Those opportunities don't come around every day and you take advantage of it .
Speaker 1And this stemmed from the classic tournaments over we're going into a cash game . At that time , I think we ended up having multiple cash games and this was just one of those cash games that just kept going , so loved it Ended at number eight tournament shop negotiations . There was there is an infamous chop right I think we talked about this , yeah .
Speaker 3So as the tournament director , I try and stay out of the chop discussion , right , right . But if I'm called upon to help negotiate , I will jump in . And I wanna say this was JMFR , possibly it was Bazinga , but they call me in to help negotiate the chop and like well , where are you looking for ? And they said well , I want $1,500 and then they can chop the rest . So you want how much ? I said $1,500 . And I look and I'm like well , first place is only 1,200 . You want more than first place money to allow them to chop . And I'm fairly positive as JMFR and you could tell he was confused and then realized it was more than first place money . He's like hey , if you don't ask , you don't know Exactly . Well , boys , I'm gonna remove myself from this chop discussion , do what you want .
Speaker 1I don't think it happened right . I think we went down . I remember that one . That was great , yeah , a major chop . So , coming in at number seven , is we set up 44 Magnum in a cash game hand and it was Quads versus a Royal Flush . I don't know that . I know this . It was a classic moment .
Speaker 3So we're playing cash game , 44 needs to get up and use the restroom . But he says deal me in . So he pops up , he goes around the corner and Dizzle , say , wait , boys , let's set him up . And I didn't know exactly what he meant at the moment . And he said let's set the hand up . And so what he ended up doing was setting the deck where 44 Magnum would have Quads and someone else playing the cash game would have a Royal Flush , Wow . And so he came out . The hand plays out . He can't , 44 Magnum can't get all those chips in the middle of the pot fast enough . I mean for good reason , Absolutely . And the look on his face when a Royal Flush was flipped over , he was crushed . He was already having a rough night , if I remember correctly , and he was just like that's it , boys , I'm done for tonight . But then it kind of clicked that he was away from the table for a few minutes and something suspicious may be going on , and obviously we let him in on what happened . But it was just a great moment .
Speaker 1How did he take it ?
Speaker 3The way .
Speaker 144 Magnum would take a beat like that you know .
Speaker 3I mean , I think he- .
Speaker 1He still turned in for the night Like you've been still no once we let him in on the secret .
Speaker 3he sat down and played , but he laughed it off and it was a good time I love it , that's
Cash Game Selection and Tournament Moments
Speaker 3great .
Speaker 1Coming to number six , JMFR declares oh , I'm sorry , JMFR . Dealer's Choice Cash Game Selection Blackjack .
Speaker 3Yeah , so this is amazing . As you guys know , the cash games typically will play like a round of no limit hold them and then it quickly becomes Dealer's Choice and Pass the pineapple by Dealer's Choice , whatever game you wanna make up in the moment . Yep , now , jmfr is a special player , very , very special , and I can relate he's a DJ , and so am I , and I love him for that . But historically , when the deal comes to him , the game he picks is nine handed Blackjack and he's the banker . It's just amazing , you know , and this is the type of guy you wanna play a cash game with he's action , you know he's a lot of fun . But yeah , I mean , think about that , guys . He wants to deal nine handed Blackjack .
Speaker 1And he wants to be the banker .
Speaker 3And he wants to be the banker .
Speaker 1I mean the odds , are you know ?
Speaker 3Yeah , yeah , I mean it's a smart decision . How ?
Speaker 1else are you gonna recoup the seven rebies from the tournament earlier , right ?
Speaker 3For sure , and I'm not even sure he puts a limit on what you can bet . You know , so you know it's a lot of fun , you know , I find it funny and we have a good time with it .
Speaker 1That's great . Yeah , the cash games do get quite interesting because Dealer's Choice , I mean it varies . We've got the famous Pass the Pineapple . We've got everything's wild but Deuces . I mean it takes a long time for people to call a hand because they're having to calculate all the different possibilities that could be out there .
Speaker 3Right , well , cheese Kingdom and Old man Flash . We do play cash games during the weekend .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , I mean the cash games . I'm usually either out of the tournament , like one of the first couple of hands , so I don't know if I'm around long enough for the cash games . That's the issue .
Speaker 3There's been a few times I've told you jump in and like slide $40 in chips your way .
Speaker 2There has been .
Speaker 3And I would have more fun burning that money in the backyard honestly than watching you play . It's amazing , like poof , how quickly you can make that disappear Very quickly .
Speaker 1You're like a magician . All right , so this is great . So , coming to number five , Mucking Netflix and Chills Hand , you remember this one ? I mean , I don't really remember it , but I was told about what happened . I all I know was that night there was a lot of vodka and a lot of Kanye being played At Rich Bones house .
Speaker 2At Rich Bones house . This was the same night that we had the last minute vote too , I believe it was . So all that one night , a lot going on , obviously .
Speaker 3Yeah , yeah , it was a bit of a blur for everyone involved , but it was poker night tournament . You may have had a handle of vodka in your system and maybe a 12 pack of Red Bulls , but we were being fairly patient with you . You were a couple feet from your seat but you were in the middle of a conversation and I can't imagine what it's like trying to have a conversation on a 12 pack of Red Bulls . But , like I imagine , you're going a thousand miles per hour and I try to get your attention . No luck . So finally , I said muck his hand , because a tournament rule is last card off the deck . You have to be in your seat .
Speaker 1Absolutely and you you snapped Uncharacteristically .
Speaker 3Oh , it took me by surprise . I was thinking another jaw and another fence .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah , I don't think I was . I was not GMFR's plus one's favorite that night either , so I think I might have spilled something on the table .
Speaker 3Yeah , we were slapping the table after I mucked your hand . But we've all been there , we've all done it , absolutely Classic moment . Classic moment . It's all the next day Exactly . It's all love .
Speaker 1I love it . I love it Coming in at number four , 44 Magnum playing Plow for the first time .
Speaker 3Pot limit Omaha .
Speaker 1Pot limit Omaha . Oh , that's right .
Speaker 3Yeah , so early on the cash games after the tournament was all no limit , holcomb , yep , and we slowly try to introduce new games . Tender did actually , to my surprise , was the PLO player . So we , I introduced this game along with tender , did ? It's a little bit more of an action game . I thought everyone would like it . We we actually did play at no limit because no one can keep track of the pot , but that's another story .
Speaker 3So so 44 Magnum gets a hand you know it's ace ace , like nine four with no suits , and in Holcomb obviously pocket ace is the best starting hand . But in pot limit Omaha , ace , ace , nine four with no suits , you're probably not a favor over a random hand , right . But he gets it all in preflop against someone in the cash game and loses right , which is really no surprise . And he tilt a bit , he really does . He I'll never forget this because he looks at diesel and says diesel , this isn't poker , this is gambling , I'm out of here . And so he does a walk off , goes to bed he's still had chips left over left him on the table Night night , I'm out . I cashed him out , gave him the money in the morning and I love this story so much because fast forward to where we are today and he's like I want to do a pineapple , you know oh your card .
Speaker 3two players to the right . Deuces , fives and sevens are wild Yep so we've come a long ways .
Speaker 1We've come a long way . It is straight up gambling it is . I mean , I feel like you literally have to be goodwill hunting sometimes to figure out the odds on these hands with what we play , Because you're passing two of your worst cards . All these things are wild .
Speaker 3Oh , and best hands are missed . No doubt about it .
Speaker 1Oh my god , it's nuts . All right . So coming in at number three , I'm curious about this one because I don't remember this Disqualifying Losin found from the tournament .
Speaker 3Yeah , this is quite the night and as the tournament director you have to make some tough decisions . I was actually playing at Losin found's table that night and he disappeared . Which is fine , it's a tournament , you can get up and get some fresh air , get a drink whenever you want , right . So I dealt for him the first time and then the second time and put his blinds in for him . It was getting a bit ridiculous . So I went and looked for him . Surprise , surprise , I couldn't find him Losin found . So whatever , I'll keep putting his blinds in , I'll keep dealing for him . I get up again , look for him . I find him . This time he's asleep on the couch . I wake him up . He says he's coming back . I let another 30 minutes , 45 minutes go by . No , Losin found . So eventually I picked up his chips and retired him . He was down to maybe like five big blinds . It was gonna happen anyways , but I didn't wanna have to deal with him . Deal his cards for him . Well , guess who came up ?
Speaker 3Guess who came back ready to play poker tournament ? Losin found .
Speaker 1Just needed a two hour nap right .
Speaker 3So he was a little tilted about that . We worked it out . I offered to reimburse his tournament entry . He was cool , he didn't want it , he understood , but in the moment it was pretty classic .
Speaker 1Classic Losin found . Classic Losin found All right coming in at number two soldier only tournament chop .
Speaker 3Yeah , this was great . I think maybe you were at the table for this . This is one of the nights we had 30 to 40 players . At this time we were probably down to five players I think you were in there 44 Magnum , maybe JMFR and myself and one non-soldier . Okay , and so there's five of us , right ? Four soldiers , one non-soldier , and it's getting pretty late in the evening .
Speaker 2Is this socks ? And ?
Speaker 3sandals I think it was socks and sandals . So there's a little bit of history there . We won't get into it , but there was some history . So he wants to chop , you know , and I actually , I was fine with chopping , but a few comments were made that like I don't chop with only anyone but soldiers , and so we kept playing and we kept playing and about an hour later socks and sandals gets it all in . I don't remember who is all in with , but he was behind the flop comes out , he's still behind the turn . Comes out , he's still behind the river , comes out . And before that river , you obviously , you see it before it hits the felt , Before that card hit the felt , 44 Magnum hops up and says you want to chop boys ? And we all said yeah , and it hits the felt and socks and sandals was tilted and the four of us chopped and we shrugged our shoulders and said we only chop with soldiers .
Speaker 1I won't go too much into detail , but there was no better person to have that happen to than socks and sandals , and I don't know that we've ever seen socks and sandals again .
Speaker 3It was his second and vitus first and his last , Exactly , yeah exactly .
Speaker 1Oh , this is great . So , coming in at number one , mosvet busts and tells Jaws and Fences , take it all . And by take it all , please go go into yeah , this is .
Speaker 3I've played a lot of poker hands . This is literally my favorite poker hand I've ever played and it has nothing to do with how much money I won . It's just what took place and I love me some Mosvete and he's . He's run very , very bad in poker in general . Oh yeah , draft weekends . You know there's nothing he can do about it , but so we were playing a bounty tournament , if I remember correctly , and I believe this was at rich bones house .
Speaker 3That was an action night and how I think about it yeah what and and I and I and it was a bounty tournament , so I I bust them out of the tournament . He slides all those chips over to me and he's getting up and he's walking off and I said hey , you know , mo's , I need those too . And I'm pointing to his bounty chips and he wasn't happy about that . I didn't want to disrespect the manager , to reach over and grab his bounty chips right , of course not . So he slides them over very calmly and says jaws and fences , take it all . It's like well , well , thank you , I won the hand . He reaches into his pocket , tosses his wallet on the table . Take that too . And now I'm starting to laugh .
Speaker 3This is classic . You know , this is all in fun , clat . The classic meltdown . He reaches into his pocket , pulls up the keys for his vet . Take the vet to . You might as well . You're gonna get it at some point . Now I'm laughing so hard , boys like my head is starting to hurt . Next thing , I know , he pulls his hat off and throws it on the table . You can have my hat as long , as long as we're at it . It's like well , mo's GG , it's not necessary .
Speaker 3And and to top it off , he pulls his shirt off . He literally takes his shirt off , throws it on the table and tells me I can have that as well , and walks off . Classic moment the favorite , my favorite hand of poker I've ever played in my life and I will never forget it . Mosvet , thank you for that .
Speaker 1Thank you for the number one spot in the top poker moments in Sunday Soldier history . Ah , oh my gosh , and there's so much more .
Speaker 3No there's .
Speaker 1So I mean there's just it's a to narrow it down to that 12 . I mean I can't wait for season two to have you back and we're gonna go over the next 12 and it's just gonna be just as entertaining that , folks , until it took me about 30 seconds to put this list together .
Speaker 3I mean , there's so many moment moments from poker night . It's so much fun .
Speaker 1Oh my gosh , I can't wait . All right , well , jaws and fans is . Thank you for the insight into how these Legendary poker tournaments are run . Thank you for sharing with us your top 12 poker moments . I mean , they are just quite , quite hilarious .
Trade Negotiations and Friendship Drama
Speaker 1Now , but before we end this kind of guest segment and we all jump into , you know , a week review we want , we like to give our guest , you know , a moment of Rebuttal . Is how , as , as we call it , because obviously we've been playing this league a long time , tensions run high , smack talk runs high . We have our iPhones only chat . So many people have been put put on blast , you know . We want to give you an equal opportunity , as we do every soldier that comes onto this podcast . You're a moment of rebuttal . Anybody else that you want to put on blast , something that might have been said to you on a podcast , something that might have been said to you on an iPhone chat ? We just want to give the floor to you and give you a moment to defend yourself or Rebuke something that someone has said .
Speaker 3Jaws and fences the floor is yours that flicks and chill chase kingdom . I'm a pretty chill guy , as you guys know . It's it's really all love . I love you guys . All I wish you the best of luck in the playoffs , whether that be the winners bracket or the losers bracket , and , more importantly , I want to give a shout out to Los . I love you , los , I miss you .
Speaker 2Yeah , Los , can we get you back in the group chat ? We miss you .
Speaker 3I would love to see him come back in . Yeah , but it's all love , man . Best of luck to everyone , whether you're in the winners bracket or the losers bracket . Let's keep grinding , boys .
Speaker 1I love it . Well , there you have it , jeff Fisher I mean Jaws and fences giving his moment of rebuttal . Now on to the week 12 and 13 review . All right , so let's jump into our Weekly review . This is weeks 12 through 13 . We're gonna go through a bunch of , like you know , standings are a six-place position which is now based on points . Now , here's the thing . Before we jump into all of that , obviously we're coming towards the end of the season , so there's not a ton of moves . In regards to like trades and like fabbids , money's been spent , trade lines been been passed . But seeing that we have Jaws and fences Jaws and fences Excuse me here in the recording studio as well as cheese kingdom , I do want to highlight a trade that almost happened prior to the trade deadline . So I'm gonna give . I mean , rumor is it could have ruined a friendship , you know , but I'm gonna let these two kind of like chatted out . So , cheese kingdom , jaws and fences , you both have the floor .
Speaker 3Yeah , so we had a trade in the works At the moment . You know , in the queue I had tank Dell Going to chief's kingdom and I was gonna receive Mark Andrews and we , we went back and forth via text , right , yep it in my mind . It felt like it was pretty close to being done .
Speaker 2Yeah , no , it was . It was definitely an offer that you know I was Very close to accepting and I think later that night and we talked about it was before fabb had gone through and then received a text . Well on Tuesday night .
Speaker 3Yeah , well , before that text , I Sent you a text and I said you know , cheese kingdom , let's get this done . Correct and you said , hey , if you don't mind , can we wait until after waivers . Correct you do remember that yes .
Speaker 2so far , so good .
Speaker 3Okay . So in my mind I didn't know if that meant it was a done deal after waivers . Clear , you know we're gonna make the trade . So I was on my phone looking at different options and a trade offer comes across from Netflix and chill , and he's offering me Pacheco for tank Dell . And I love me some Pacheco and I wanted to auto accept that trade and you know I did correct we have .
Speaker 2Yet this has been part of the conversation as well that that night even literally 30 seconds after that trade Came across .
Speaker 3What did I do ?
Speaker 2You'd you try calling me .
Speaker 3FaceTime , facetime . I want to see your face .
Speaker 2You want ? You want to see the the ?
Speaker 3yeah , absolutely , it was a FaceTime you said you're feeding the kids , blah , blah , blah . Eventually you try to get back to me and we were sending text messages back and forth and I think I text you . Hey , were you under the impression that this was a done deal ?
Speaker 2Correct . That text did come through right . Yes , and , to be honest , there was never in my thought that it was a hundred percent done . I had offered . I actually think I threw back a Counter proposal .
Speaker 3Yeah , as I had this hot trade correct in my queue to accept , correct . So yeah , and your counter proposal didn't exactly come through a lightning speed . You know when you're . When you're within a text message and you see the dot dot dot , uh-huh , if it was probably up there for a minute , but it felt like an hour .
Speaker 2Legit no , yeah , no longer than a minute , probably around a minute .
Speaker 3But he fires back some bullshit counteroffer to me and I'm like I need a simple yes or no . Cheese came . Did you think this was a done deal ? And my answer was no , I did not at that time your answer was you fired another counter at me , and so , in the meantime , I pop open the , the Yahoo app , to look at the trade . Well , guess what happened ? It was pulled from from the trade chill pulled the trade and I was Tilted .
Speaker 2I think my next text message was green . It didn't even go through its blue because I might have been blocked at that time .
Speaker 3Yeah , yeah . So I was a little heated about that . I mean , cheese kingdom comes from a different generation , you know . You know he's 21 guys , my generation . Your word means something handshake , agreement , call it what you want . I just wanted to make sure I wasn't gonna burn him in the long run , so I wanted clarification on it At the end of the day .
Speaker 2Yeah , I mean at the end of the day , I think it . Uh , andrews goes down the next week , tank goes down . Two weeks later You've got Pateko . I think it all ended up working out for you .
Speaker 3Yeah , netflix and chill did make me sweat it a little bit . He did . There were some offers because I just , you know , I just resubmitted the trade and you countered several times .
Speaker 1Yeah , just just just which . I think at that moment that was . I think that that was our third trade right . Yeah , we move some players we had moved some . Why I originally had Pacheco I did , you did yeah , which yeah , and I needed at that , yeah , oh , that was part of the the fields Pacheco , mahomes and the block pickings , the block button buster deal really hasn't resulted in much of anything .
Speaker 3Yeah , yeah , I mean , a friendship was saved . You saved that friendship . You're welcome to both of you .
Speaker 1Yeah , but I mean , hey , I you know as a witness firsthand Cheese Kingdom had had a rough time pulling the trigger on trades this year . There was a lot of self doubting , a lot of second guessing , because you were so deep that it's just tough to kind of like get get rid of anything .
Speaker 2Yeah , I felt like on any trade I would receive , it was like no , no , my depth , like you said , was pretty good and I felt like I wasn't getting the player that was going to step in that I needed . So that was a little bit , hasn't . Yeah , dizzle has been hitting me up . He's still trying to hit me up after the trade line of getting guys and I'm like , look , he's like you won't trade ever . So I think I did make two trades this year , which maybe is two more than some other people have made , but yeah , it's , it was tough to pull the trigger on someone and I wish I would have pulled the trigger on Andrews for sure .
Speaker 1Oh yeah , After that deal had was done , I had , I mean , obviously I had learned a lot with trading this year , because I'm like you can't get points for what's on the bench right , and it's all about the now for me . So I was trying to tell you , I think at that moment I was like , dude , you got you have Andrews and Hocketson , like you need a quarterback . And I was like dude , you need to hit up Moes and get like Stroud or Burrow , which at that time , like either one , I was like Moes needs that . He was just like he couldn't give up . Like which , I get it . You have that . That debt that's hard to . And then that's when that happened .
Speaker 1I think it was that night , Was it Thursday night ? Andrews goes down , but then you would have been SOL either way , because if you had got Burrow , he was down . So you know you win some , you lose some . You never know . But classic , classic non trade moment . I'm glad I saved a friendship . You 100% saved a friendship . That's what I'm here to do , you know . All right , so let's jump into the season review . Chiefs Kingdom , do you want to go through our current standings ?
Speaker 2Yeah , we've got the , the one seed , sitting rich bone there at nine and four . He's got a huge lead in points as well , which is obviously very big at this point . Season 44 Magnum at two , at nine and four , myself Chiefs Kingdom at nine and four , sitting in the three spot . Tinder did also at nine and four in the four seed . Then we got Bazinga at seven and six , jaws and Finches at seven and six , dizzle in the seven seed at six and seven , jmfr at six and seven and then Netflix and Chill five and eight . Losen found four nine , mosvet four , nine and in 12th place Old man Flash at three and ten . So very interesting .
Playoff Race and Rule Changes
Speaker 2A lot of you know groups that are in the standings there that you know coming down to the last week is going to be , you know , a big a bit of craziness here . Big week , no doubt .
Speaker 1Yeah , it's it is a huge week it is the last week of our regular season and why it's huge is we've got I mean , obviously , slots one through four . Are you're locked for the playoffs right Now . It's just a question of who's getting like the first round by right Now this is where it gets interesting , right ? Cause one of the things that we changed this year's as we've talked about many times is we used to be the top six . Records right , would make it to the playoffs . Now it's the top five . The sixth spot is decided upon most points . So at the end of the season , spot six through 12 is decided on whoever has the most points . So if you finished with just one win , but you just had the worst luck and had the most points , you're getting into that six and final spot , right ? The idea was to eliminate the , the excuse that it was just bad luck and it was matchups and all that stuff .
Speaker 1So let's discuss how this kind of breaks down . So currently , uh , bazinga is sitting there at five and six , right , so everybody who's in position to possibly get that sixth spot , uh , based on points , is rooting for Bazinga to win , right , cause Bazinga is , I think , second in points overall in the entire league . So Bazinga wins , that six spots will basically come down to uh three teams . It's going to be Dizzle , jaws and fences , netflix and chill an old man flash , right ? So the four of us are all rooting for Bazinga to win .
Speaker 1Now , how it breaks down in this is if we look at the bottom seven in points total , dizzle is leading with a little over 15 , 72 . Now , jaws and fences is only 18.17 points behind . So , whether Jaws wins or loses , his goal is to finish above 18.17 points , above whatever Dizzle does . So his goal this week which it makes it interesting , right ? Sure , because you're looking at okay , uh , prior to us changing this rule , we're trying to win . Now you're looking at what gives me the most upside , what ? What player gives me the most upside ? Cause I need points , right ?
Speaker 3What I have available to me this week is I have , I have two paths to get in . Okay , I have a win and I'm in . If I beat Bazinga , I'm in .
Speaker 1That's right .
Speaker 3That's right , yeah , um , if I don't beat Bazinga which , for the record , I don't think I will Then it comes down to points . He's been tough . Yeah , I mean , when you have Josh Allen , tyree Kill , I mean those two players alone can bury me .
Speaker 1Kenneth Walker has been like , I mean playing .
Speaker 3Josh Jacobs , yeah .
Speaker 1It pains me to say , but Zynga , I don't know how he stumbles in drafting well like that every year . You know he's in the lab .
Speaker 3He is he is he puts in the work and it shows .
Speaker 1He sits down in his bean bag , he gets his clipboard out . He's right , he's just , he's in there .
Speaker 3But if , if Bazinga beats me and he likely will I still have an option of outscoring Dizzle by 19 ish points , Yep , and if I do that I'm in .
Speaker 1Yeah , I mean it's a . It makes it super interesting . So I'm sitting in in the third spot I have after me . So I'm I'm 43.11 points behind Dizzle Right . So I have to look at my matchup this week and I'm thinking is , is it Nate or Noah Brown of the Texans , or is it Roshan Johnson who's going to give me the most upside Right ? Cause I mean that's all you care about , because , like basically , ranking says start Adam Thielen , but he's been awful Right , and I'm like there's no tank . Dell sauce gardener is going to be on Nico Collins Right . So does that .
Speaker 1So it is interesting how it makes you look at these matchups in a different way . You're like what's going to give me the ? I mean you've got in Chicago what you've got three backs , you've got Herbert , uh , foreman and Roshan Johnson , but you're playing the lions Right . You think it's going to be a high scoring game . So you're thinking more , roshan Johnson is going to be there to catch , like you know , the the dump offs um 43.11 points behind . It's a lot , but I think I scored 140 and diesel scored sub 100 . I think three out of the last five or like six weeks . My point is it makes it interesting .
Speaker 3You're not dead , uh-oh .
Speaker 1No , no , old old man flash is sitting there . He's 66.29 points behind . The interesting thing is , is he's not out of it , Right ? I mean he's ? He's a long shot , right , but he's three in 10 in a traditional format .
Speaker 3His league or his season was over four or five weeks ago . But here he is . Is it a long shot ? Yeah , but he has the opportunity to get into the playoffs .
Speaker 1Yeah , which , which I think , I think . I think that the great thing and how this league operates right Is this is one of those things you don't want to league where , if you've got the bottom three , just cashing it in and just be laying around , I mean going to attempt anymore because I'm out of it . You know , um , record wise , this is like old man flash is in last place , three in 10 , but he's not technically out of it . Right , if he goes nuts and scores 180 points , you know and everybody scores that he has a shot . But that's a great thing about our leagues . We're always looking for that way to kind of tweak it , to make it interesting to wear that last week of the season Like you still have the bottom team fighting , because what you don't want is this let's say you're in those top four spots and you're fighting for position to get a first round by sure .
Speaker 1You don't want that last place team cashing it in , not caring , not having a line out Exactly , and then it screws you from getting the first round by because they got an easy one .
Speaker 3Yeah , it's a competitive league . We fight till the end and there's a lot of teams that still have the opportunity to get into the playoffs .
Speaker 1Yep , Fortunately we've got sitting number five . In the last seven spots We've got JMFR . He's 85.53 points behind . Might be a tough hill hill to climb . Loson found is there with 118 points and I'm not even going to tell you how many points most of it is behind because it just doesn't matter .
Speaker 3I think he's had some really bad luck .
Speaker 1Yeah , he's like , he's literally , he's 312 points behind .
Speaker 3But he's continued to fight all season .
Speaker 1If we go back , what was it last episode right In the Yahoo statistics ? I think Mosul's top four , top three . So it's one of those things you look at Mosul's having the roughest season , but overall that guy finishes like he's one of the best finishers in our league 100% .
Speaker 1That guy puts in lab work like no other he does . Well , that's where we stand , kind of currently . I mean , it is a . It's the week of weeks , right ? This is the week that decides the buy weeks . This is the week that decides the final playoff spots , and we've got a number of Bazinga . We know is in , right , but we've got Jaws and Vences , dizzle , netflix and Chill and Old man , flash . All are in a race for that final playoff spot . It is going to make for an interesting final week and I'm so excited to see how this plays . I'm not going to lie . I do have a screenshot saved on my phone of Dizzle saying you have a 0% chance of making the playoffs and nothing would would bring me more , more joy .
Speaker 3I think you have a chance .
Speaker 1Yeah , I mean , hey , that's that's . That's why I made six or seven trades throughout the season , 70 plus moves .
Speaker 3Look when we go into the playoffs there's , there's a high probability that I Will be in that seventh place spot , cause that's where , historically , that's where I am .
Speaker 1Right .
Speaker 3And chiefs kingdom . I've been saying this all year . What would happen ? I will get knocked out of the playoffs based off the new rule that we voted in this year .
Speaker 2I've been saying it for weeks , months , so yeah , I think even after starting five and O it was still brought to the table of like watch what happens here , correct , and so a hundred percent . It's been said since week six Right .
Speaker 1But it was five and O yeah , and you're sitting here at you're at seven and six . Now you've you've had a run of bad luck with Justin Jefferson . You've had a few injuries right .
Speaker 3Yeah , I mean I'm one in five in my last six games . So yeah , it's been tough , but Holmes hasn't exactly performed as I was hoping . Jj , you know the injury gets extended week after week . Um , you know it's been a tough few weeks , but I literally set myself up for this Like I'm prepared . I mean , I started five and O and I said this is what was going to happen from the start .
Speaker 1Prepare for the worst and hope for the best . Right .
Speaker 3Yeah , and it's fine , you know it's . You know , seventh place , you know it's a good spot for me .
Speaker 1Hey , I'm , I'm . I'm hoping for eighth , right ? Look , I know I'm a long shot to make the playoffs , but if I finish in eighth place , that's all I want .
Speaker 3I I don't want to be in the from the possibility of being last place for the year .
Speaker 1I've been in there the last two years and had to fight and claw to not get that trophy . I don't want to be in that . So if I get eighth place , I like that . I consider that a win . Right , I'm absolutely fine with that . Well , awesome . Well , that is our week 12 , 13 review . Can't wait to come back to you next podcast and let you know how it all shakes out . Will Netflix and chill pull a miracle and get into the playoffs ? Will Jaws and fences take down Bazinga , second most points in the league , and prove his theory wrong that he was going to get bounced out of the playoffs ? The next podcast will tell . All right .
Speaker 1Now onto our league legendary moment recap . I want to talk about tradition , right , which is one thing that the Sunday soldiers have done so well , and I want to mention , like the poker tourney and I don't care if it's a poker tourney , I don't care if it's a golf tourney , I don't care if it's a frisbee golf tourney One thing that adds to this league each and every year is we just find a special way to add some ongoing tradition . Whether it's chilly poker tourneys , it doesn't matter , it's one of those things that makes our league great . It's one of those things that keeps everybody looking forward to get getting together each and every year . It allows you to build that camaraderie in your league . So if you're in your current fantasy football league and you want to make your league legendary as well , we highly , highly encourage you to build upon those traditions each and every year . Find that niche , find that thing that each and every one of you want to do each and every year and build upon it and make your league legendary , just like us
Podcast With Jaws & Fences
Speaker 1All .
Speaker 1Right , everybody , thank you so much for another great podcast . We had some awesome content . We had an awesome guest . Jaws and Fences Go through what it takes to run a poker tourney . Let's everybody know what it's like to build traditions in a league . Jaws and Fences . Before we sign off , do you have any final words that you want to share with our audience ?
Speaker 3Yeah , thanks for having me . I appreciate it . This was an excellent experience . Good luck to everyone . This week it's a big week , Bazinga . I'm going to give you everything I got and we'll see what happens , guys .
Speaker 1Thank you . Fantastic Jaws and Fences is so good having you on . Can't wait to have you on again . Chiefs Kingdom , do you have any parting words for our audience ?
Speaker 2I think that's it , boys . And like we say every week good game everyone .
Speaker 3Thank you .
