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A Millionaire's Killer Course
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A self proclaimed TikTok-famous “business coach” claims she made $1,000,000.00 in 40 minutes, selling a pricey credit repair course. This "coach"decides to hire a hitman/hitwoman to take out one of her competitors when her ego and “rival” paranoia spirals out of stupidity.
That’s not a headline from a screenplay, it’s the real case we unpack today, centered on Dallas influencer Ashley Grayson Messengill and a plot that sprawls across Texas, Tennessee, and Mississippi.
If you’ve ever wondered why smart people still fall for online coaching scams, you’ll leave with clearer red flags and better questions to ask.
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Theme Song And Host Banter
SPEAKER_01Greedy Mofos Catch your coins by the world burn slow Greedy Mofos and show Greedy Mofos Every promise that you make we know Greedy Mofos Hello Greedy Mofo fans how is everyone tonight? And Aston, how are you doing?
SPEAKER_00I am doing just fine. Did you have a good Easter?
SPEAKER_01I did, I did. How about you?
SPEAKER_00I did, I did. Lots of Easter candy. You know me and my chocolate.
SPEAKER_01Oh. I do, I do. I had zero Easter candy, so very proud of myself.
Spotting Influencer Scam Patterns
SPEAKER_01So well, last week your story was so interesting, and in the course of your discussing your case, you brought up that you had researched influencers. And I had been watching, I have been watching, I should say, um, a lot of like influencer scams and um how they are just so dishonest on their TikTok and Instagram pages. And um, I've been following one um who kind of uncovers all of their lies and and deceitfulness. So while I was um watching those videos, I came across an influencer. Um this this story is just unbelievable. So it's an influencer out of Dallas, Texas. Um she called herself a coach slash influencer. Her name is Ashley Grayson. Um, her legal name, Ashley Grayson Messengill. Um her claims are that she was a bestseller, an eight-figure business coach, a course creator, a philanthropist, and her big claim to fame is that she earned a million dollars in 40 minutes.
SPEAKER_00To me, that's just oh my god, there are so many out there saying stuff like that. It's it's hilarious, it's just hilarious.
SPEAKER_01It really is, and what's so sad is that people continuously fall for these these scams. So, okay, so I'm gonna take you back to 2021.
Ashley Grayson’s Big Money Claims
SPEAKER_01Um, and this is per prosecutor. So I'm not gonna tell you what she did, but I want to lead up to it. So bear with me. So in 2021 or per prosecutors in 2021, um, Ashley had a rival um uh influencer who who did the same, allegedly did the same type of coaching and had the same courses that she created in Mississippi. So we've crossed state lines now, keep that in mind. Um so this woman in Mississippi ran a similar business as Ashley, but they had never met each other, so that's kind of homical, too. So let's fast forward to 2022 in about August.
The Dallas Murder-For-Hire Ask
SPEAKER_01Ashley calls a friend of hers in Memphis, Tennessee. So here we have another state line crossing. Um she asked her friend, um, will you fly to Dallas so that we can discuss a business opportunity? So about a month later, the friend out of Memphis and her husband fly to Dallas and they meet with Ashley and her husband. So the business opportunity that Ashley wanted to discuss with her friend from Memphis was number one, can you kill for me that business rival in Mississippi? Number two, can you kill my ex-boyfriend? And number three, kill another woman in Texas who said negative things about her online.
SPEAKER_00So um you say she met with Ashley and her husband. Ashley also had an ex-boyfriend.
SPEAKER_01Yes, who she wanted taken out.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Was this before her husband or she was having an affair with them?
SPEAKER_01No, I g I I guess it was her boyfriend before she got married to her husband. Okay. So she just I I don't know why she wanted him taken out, but she did. So and so she offered her friend from Memphis and Memphis's husband $20,000 per murder, but an extra five thousand to kill the Mississippi woman as quickly as possible.
SPEAKER_00And how much did she make in 40 minutes?
SPEAKER_01Allegedly a million dollars.
SPEAKER_00And she's only paying them 20,000, really.
SPEAKER_01Per murder, yes, yes. So, um, so I guess that extra 5,000 offer came in after the fact. I think what happened is the couple, they weren't when the initial offer, the business offer of 20,000 per murder, three murders, they weren't at in a position to like record it or anything. So they must have met again and she offered them an extra 5,000 to kill um the Mississippi woman as quickly as possible. Well, what makes me think that was a subsequent meeting is those people, thank goodness, they did not go through with the murder, they took that video to the cops. So they they filmed um police lights from a completely separate incident, and they told Ashley that the um um the the um murder attempt was not successful, but Ashley did give them ten thousand dollars for that attempt. So um uh so I mean this is just so wacko.
SPEAKER_00Okay, wait a minute, wait a minute.
SPEAKER_01Supposedly I know I it's it's out there, it's out there.
SPEAKER_00Supposedly she invited a friend of hers from Memphis, Memphis, which is in Tennessee. But the lady that's copying her lived in Mississippi.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so if this woman is her friend and this woman's husband are friends, don't you think that she would know whether before asking her to commit murder that she know if they would agree to it or not? I mean, that's like me saying, Pippa. Wouldn't you think that if I wanted somebody to be killed, and because we're friends, I know that you would not kill anybody if I asked you to. Don't you think that this woman knew that if these people are her friends, that they wouldn't kill someone?
SPEAKER_01Well, they probably weren't great friends, they were probably just more acquaintances.
SPEAKER_00Maybe, maybe this well, that's even stupider. If you're not great friends with somebody, you wouldn't ask people you barely know to go kill somebody.
SPEAKER_01Well, this is how she got caught because they they turned her in. They took that, I guess a subsequent video and they videoed her offering five thousand more, or maybe they did this on Zoom. Who knows? But anyway, they had a video of the additional offer of five thousand dollars to kill Mississippi quickly.
SPEAKER_00So they gave the police the video and um they they turned did they fly back to Dallas to get the additional five thousand dollars?
SPEAKER_01He doesn't say, but I'm just speculating on that because they probably weren't going to, they probably didn't have the opportunity to record the first um session. So they probably knew they wanted to turn her in and found an opportunity. It could have been Zoom, but they could have, you know, found an opportunity to film the further discussion, and that had an additional five thousand dollars to kill them. So she paid them 10 grand for the failed attempt because they sent her a video of just random police lights and said that it failed.
SPEAKER_00So because they failed, she didn't pay them 20 grand.
SPEAKER_01Right. She did get the 10. They did pay her, she paid them 10.
SPEAKER_00Now most his people most most but most assassins know you get the money up front.
SPEAKER_01At least half of it, yeah.
SPEAKER_00So no, sometimes depending on the target, but the smart ones know to get the money up front because they have a reputation that okay, but with these people, they should have at least gotten some money up front. They should have, but okay, so so far everybody says is really stupid.
SPEAKER_01Everybody is really dumb. So that was in 2022.
The Sting Video And Payment
SPEAKER_01In March, the case it went to trial. Her husband was acquitted. Um, so they I haven't determined if if he knew um if you know his involvement in it, but he was acquitted. Um Ashley's. So he was deemed to not have been a part of the murder for hire. So maybe he turned state's evidence on her, who knows? Well, this her having the assassin or the would-be assassin cross state lines from Tennessee into Texas, and then the crime would have been perpetrated in Mississippi. Um, the crime did not happen in Mississippi, but I guess by her bringing them to Texas from Tennessee to conspire, it became federal. So there's no parole. So
Federal Charges And Prison Time
SPEAKER_01she got 10 years and she is serving 10 years in federal prison. So I was gonna tell you a little bit about her course.
The Credit Repair Course Scheme
SPEAKER_01It was called AMPM Credit Repair, and it was a course online for um credit repair, and it was to teach people how to create their own credit repair course. So it was a scam to scam people to scam other people. It's just like it's it's so out there how she got so many people and made so much money for them to sign up for a course thinking they could teach people how to repair their credit. It was a 60-day course and it had 10 modules. Um, so we go back even to 2013. Ashley, that's how she got started in this business. She was facing eviction and her car had been repossessed, but she became a multimillionaire just like four years later, scamming people with this course. And it was quite how much was her course? Um, I believe it was two thousand dollars. Um, I've only found one one case where she um sold it to a TikToker um named, oh I I forgot the I forgot the person's name. Um, it was something like Cheryl Hogan. That that's not the name, but it sounded something similar to that. So one TikToker paid Ashley $2,000, and I guess maybe the course didn't come through. Well, Ashley blocked her. Um, of course, you know, why not? You block someone if you're deceiving them, if you're scamming them.
SPEAKER_00So if the courses are two two thousand dollars, how many courses does she have to sell to make a million dollars? Um, she only had to sell five hundred courses.
SPEAKER_01But she primarily marketed this to women. And um yeah. So I mean she had over a million a million followers on her social medias. So it's not out of the realm of possibility that she had people sign up for these courses thinking they're gonna be able to sign people up to repair their credit. So I did a little bit of a a deeper dive, not too much, but a little bit, as to why people fall for these influencer scams.
SPEAKER_00Because so basically she created a course on credit repair, but she never actually helped people repair their credit. She just created the course. And in creating the course, she sold it for $2,000, telling other people that they can start their own credit repair bill business or they can resell the course.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah. And well, it's kind of like a multi-level marketing. Like you keep you probably keep getting more people to sign up for the course, and then you learn how to do a course, and then you sell your course to other people. It's it's ridiculous. It is so ridiculous.
SPEAKER_00So, so how do we not know that the woman in in Mississippi didn't buy her course and created her course?
SPEAKER_01Well, she said she was a rival.
SPEAKER_00A ri uh Ashley But what evidence that she had that she was a rival?
SPEAKER_01Well, I have no, I have no evidence. I do not have that. But this is why Ashley wanted her taken out. So I, you know, who knows? She's she's crazy. She Right.
SPEAKER_00So I mean she's crazy because if you're selling your course to people, you sold your course to 500 people, you're teaching them how to create a credit repair course. If they turn around and create a credit repair course and start selling it, everybody you sold your course to is a rival.
SPEAKER_01That's stupid. That's true. Exactly. Exactly. So, yeah.
SPEAKER_00But she only had a hit out on one person. Unless we just don't know about the others.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I mean, I mean, the the the crux of the case is that she wanted her taken out. So I don't know if they in the, you know, they probably had enough evidence they didn't have to dig deeper into that, or I wasn't able to find anything more on that. So, but yeah. So I would like to think I would not fall for a scam like this. I would like to think you would not fall for a scam like this. So, why do people fall for
Why People Fall For Influencers
SPEAKER_01these influencer scams?
SPEAKER_00And um, so I can That's an easy question to answer.
SPEAKER_01Well, yeah, yeah. So uh for our listeners, um there are psychological triggers, um, manufactured relatability. Um it's curated aspirational content, not necessarily the credit repair course, but in general, like um just the people that do these videos, they make them look so beautiful and so perfect. And like they don't see all the work that goes into that video being created. So people just don't critically think, and um they they literally just fall for whatever that influencer is selling.
SPEAKER_00Um I have a question. Yeah. Don't know if you know the answer, but did she sell her course on social media, YouTube, or did she have a website?
SPEAKER_01Um, I think it was through social media. I think Instagram and TikTok primarily, she may have had a you she may have had a YouTube, but it was primarily TikTok. Primarily TikTok as far from what I understand. So, and then there are you know further drivers, and uh one is a social proof, and it's it's called these copying trends. So I guess they kind of these influencers and the people scamming, they they come up with ways to make people believe you can copy what I'm doing and you can be as profitable as I am. Um there's the authority bias where people just have this trust and it's um a perceived expertise that they see in that influencer, and um a strong parasocial relationship where they feel this connection to this influencer. So um yeah, that's that's what I came up with for this week.
Renting Rich For Social Proof
SPEAKER_00Well, I know that there are a lot of scams, and I understand that people look at these, and I'm gonna just say YouTube because those are the ones I watch the most, and those are the ones where I know that people had these huge YouTube channels and these huge followers, and they were just making money, supposedly hand over fist. And so when they create content, and especially the ones like back in the day when social media first started, they would like rent expensive houses and expensive cars and make you believe like this is they made all this money, so this is their house and this is their car. Well, that scam was easy to spot, and a lot of people started, you know, understanding that and believing that. And so it was kind of like some that became really, really famous, and you can find like, well, what happened to this YouTube influencer and this influencer who made all this money? And then you do research and you find out that oh, they went bankrupt or they're broke or it was a scam and all this other. It's it's it's crazy the way that social media has changed the way people perceive things, and that's why we have so many mental health issues now. Because everybody compares themselves to like, well, I want to be successful like this YouTube person, or I want to be successful like this influencer, and they really don't realize the hard work that goes behind it. Um it takes a lot of time and it doesn't happen overnight. People want to say it happens overnight, it doesn't happen overnight, even if you get a viral video or something like that. You know, we don't know what they did to be able to take that video and it went viral. They could have tried 10 different ways to shoot it and then they finally got one way, kind of, you know, it's crazy when you look at and you understand behind the scenes and creating all of this stuff. And it took time to create a course for that woman. It took time for her to come up with 10 modules and format it and write the content. It took time. That was not an overnight, you know, million dollar success story. But we don't people don't think about that.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I don't even know if she truly had a course, you know. I mean, did she get the money? Um I who knows? That's true. Who knows?
SPEAKER_00And we have all these people that, and my but my biggest question is when you see these people and they say, Oh, I made four million dollars on YouTube doing this, this, this, and I sold this. And if you sell this, you'll make this much money. And my question is, well, if you made so much money, why are you hawking yourself on YouTube? I would be traveling the world or doing something good or helping people or, you know, I wouldn't keep posting videos and stuff on TikTok and YouTube if I had millions of dollars, you know. So it's kind of like we understand this is how you're making your money, but if you're making this much money, why are you still doing it 10 years later? You know what I mean? Take the money and go. Take the money and run. Go live a life on the beach, you know? True. Do some charity work, start a foundation or nonprofit or something.
SPEAKER_01But greed doesn't work that way. They want more, more, more, more, more.
SPEAKER_00Greed and stupidity. We should call it stupid greedy mofos, because these people are stupid.
SPEAKER_01Yep. And you know what? This girl Ashley, she is so beautiful. She if she would have just let her I'm putting in air quotes, her rival carry on and her not try to take her out and take out the ex-boyfriend and take out somebody who said mean things about her online, negative things, she could still be you know, she had her disclaimer that these results are not indicative of of everyone. You know, this is this is like a very um, you know, best case scenario. She had a disclaimer out there. So whether she's scamming people or not, who knows if they would have caught on. She could have still been making her million dollars every 40 minutes, you know? Um and who knows if she really did. I don't think she was a bestseller. I don't think all those claims that she made are true. Um I don't think she was a philanthropist for one thing. Um but you know, she could have gone on to make even a little more money and then, you know, cut her cut and run and you know, not do it anymore. But she didn't. She got more greedy. She wanted to take out a rival and then other people that she didn't like, and these people, thank goodness, turned her in and didn't didn't carry on the the the bad deed.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And it doesn't c I'm sorry, people, but it does not cost $2,000 to repair your credit. I mean, that takes hard work. It's kind of like that, you don't need to pay anyone. You don't need to pay $20. Yeah to to repair your credit. It's simple. You just look at how to repair credit, Google it, use AI now. AI will break down the steps for you easy. You don't need a course. And then if you want to create a course, create a course that's going to be helpful to people that that has like a really strong impact on someone. You know, it's it's sort of like um teach a skill. I don't I mean credit repair. Yes, people need to know how to repair their credit, but there's a lot of platforms out there that you can sign up for and they'll help you. But there's no credit and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_01There's no quick repair to your credit. If you mess up your credit, it takes a lot of hard work, a lot of dedication and time to to fix it. It's it's not an overnight thing. And, you know, I don't know. I bet her course said, you know, we can fix this, you know, you can teach people how to do it. It's a course for you to teach people
How To Vet Courses And Coaches
SPEAKER_01how to do it. Um, so it's the whole thing is just so bizarre how how it just went off the rails.
SPEAKER_00And then a lot of times with with these people and they do these little webinars, and the webinars are free, but they're trying to upsell you on their program and their course and everything. My advice is research these people, look, see what kind of reviews they have, look and see, you know, how long they've been in business, and are they just copying somebody else? Because they don't give you all the information free. They want you to pay for it.
SPEAKER_01I came across this girl who um I I watched a couple of her videos and um she lived in Florida. She was 22 years old, and all she did was talk about her wealth. She was like, Yes, I'm 22 and I drive a Porsche and I have a Bentley and I go to my $300 Pilates class. I have a $600 gym membership, and um I lost a Cartier bracelet, but you know, that was that was in the cards. I was supposed to lose it because I can just go out and I have money like in five minutes where I could buy a new one. It doesn't matter that I lost it. She was crazy. All she did was talk about her wealth, her wealth, her wealth. But she got her wealth from selling some kind of course. And you sit in on her Zoom call and she never says what the course is. She just keeps people, keeps people. Oh, learn how to make money, learn how to make money, and you know, I'll teach you. And she just keeps delaying what it is, what it is, what it is. And it's like oh my gosh, she's never going to tell what it is, but she's gonna have people sign up. They're so gullible, they are so gullible, they see her bently, oh, and she rented an apartment for thirty thousand dollars a month, but said she had other real estate that she owned. Um I I just the people that fall for it are so desperate and it it's really sad. They they, you know, that copying.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and we're in the age where they look at people that are successful, like you say, influencers and you know, all these coaches and everything, and they think that they can be just like them. Yeah, you know, but they don't know it took a lot of them a long time to get where they are. It just didn't happen.
SPEAKER_01Or they're just pure scammers, and they're and they're pure scammers.
SPEAKER_00They're just a scammer.
SPEAKER_01So, but yeah.
SPEAKER_00And the videos that I like to watch are the ones that talk about all these people that was like influencers and all these social icons and had all this money and now they're broke, and it was a scam, and it was fake, and they were discovered, and that wasn't true. Those those stories are interesting. So I'm I've always been a skeptic. So I just urge people out there to just do your research, people. Don't fall for all these scams that people are doing. And and and I'm sure there are some legitimate ones.
SPEAKER_01I'm not saying it's of course, of course. And but the thing is just find your own path and don't don't do what these, you know, don't believe these influencers. They're they're yeah. If they have to tell you they're driving a Porsche at age 22 and a Bentley or Rolls Royce or whatever it is, and a $30,000 apartment, that that is fluff and it's all for show. So people who truly have your best interests at heart, they don't they don't show their wealth. They're they're they don't splaw anyway. Exactly, exactly.
SPEAKER_00Warren Buffett, one of the richest men in in the world, and he still drives an old beat-up catalog. Yeah, yeah. He doesn't spend his money on fancy cars and expensive cars and G-Wagons and Maseratis and all it. I mean, no, that's just to show you have something that's lacking and you making up for it by buying expensive toys, basically.
SPEAKER_01And they're these influencers, I think there's a little bit of a psychopath or a sociopath um mentality to them because they don't care that they are taking your hard-earned money and for their gain and uh you're losing everything. You know, they're they're exploiting the fact that you need a high-paying job to pay your bills and to get out of whatever situation you're in, and they will just continue to exploit you and they don't care.
SPEAKER_00Yep. So that's true. That's definitely true. That's another greedy mofo example.
SPEAKER_01Ashley Grayson Massingill. I guess she is two years into her 10-year sentence, and again, no parole because it's federal, so she'll be out in 2034 if she was sentenced after the trial, which she probably was. So 2034, she'll be out. She still has eight years to go. And um, I mean, you know, she she was her her photo, she was just so beautiful. And I think a lot of these influencers are just so stunning, they're stunningly beautiful, and they use that. It's it's it's a way to draw people in, um, and people want to be like them. So that is just very sad. Hopefully, she gets out of prison when she's uh I I don't even know how how old she was. 35, I think, so she'll be approximately 45 when she's out. I mean, hopefully she gets out, learned a lesson, and can get a job and you know, have legitimate income.
SPEAKER_00I would think that when she comes out, she's still gonna be a scam artist and a greedy mofa. Right. And she will probably take advantage of all the things you can do with AI for her new scam. Probably.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Um you never know.
SPEAKER_00I never know. I think that's with AI. You can copy a course really easy. You can copy websites, courses, apps, you can do whatever with AI. And there's gonna be so many more scammers out there, so many more people that are just greedy mofos. It's ridiculous.
Ranking Greed And Stupidity
SPEAKER_00So that was a nice little case.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so where do you rank her on the greedy mofo scale?
SPEAKER_00Well, to be honest, if she would have kept doing it and had some common sense not to hire supposedly people that are not really hitmen to go kill somebody, and she continued to make um more than a million dollars with that same scam, I would put her higher on the greedy mofo scale. But it seems like she only made a million dollars and then went on this stupid binge of whatever she was doing trying to kill people. So I would put her really high on the stupidity scale. I'll put her at a ten.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I I'm gonna put her a ten at at both because for her to want to take out a rival, and again, don't know anything about this rival. Uh, I couldn't even find her name. All I know is she lives in Mississippi. Um you've got to be pretty greedy to want to take someone out who has a business similar to yours. So I'm gonna I'm gonna give her I'm gonna give her top top honors. I'm gonna give her a ten um for the greed, and I'm gonna give her a ten on stupid for the way she went about it, not like you said. She was definitely stupid not knowing she I mean she didn't know.
SPEAKER_00If she would have kept selling her course, yeah. Yeah, if she would have kept selling her course and she made like two million or three million or five million over a long period of time, then I would consider her really, really greedy. To me, she was just more stupid than greedy.
SPEAKER_01But she uh her motive was to get richer, so that's why she went to take it out. Yeah, so that that that to me solidifies my 10 on the on the greed scale.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'm giving her an eight. Okay. I'm giving her an eight greed scale.
SPEAKER_01So that's all I have for you, greedy mofo listeners. Um wishing you well. Please do not be a greedy mofo. Don't be a stupid greedy mofo.
SPEAKER_00Be a if you're gonna be a greedy mofo, be smart, but don't be a greedy mofo.
SPEAKER_01Just don't.
SPEAKER_00Because we will we will definitely uncover it and talk really, really bad about how greedy and stupid and expose the scam so more people don't fall for them. Yep. That we will. That's the purpose of greedy mofos. Greedy mofo's investigations.
SPEAKER_01Yes, yes. We're gonna get that off the ground one day, legitimately.
SPEAKER_00This will be fun.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Well, Aston, I look forward to hearing your case next week.
SPEAKER_00Sounds like a plan. I'm gonna have to come up with something good.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
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SPEAKER_01Well, listeners, email us info at o-ne-e, o n e two one dot com. Give us some ideas, give us feedback, or if you know anybody in Dallas know this Ashley Grayson Massingill, let us know any any juice you have on her. I'm curious.
SPEAKER_00That's right. And if you have any type of scams that you want us to talk about, some really, really the greediest of greedy mofos, the stupidest of greedy mofos, let us know. We will dive in and research it and be glad to talk about it.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Alrighty.
SPEAKER_00Okay, well, Pippi, you have a good evening.
SPEAKER_01Thank you. Same to you, Aston.
SPEAKER_00Relax. I know you had a long day at work, so did I. So let's call wrap this one up and thank all of our greedy mouthful listeners. And we will see you next time.
SPEAKER_01Bye.
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