Best Moments of Year One of My Podcast for Teachers

In this special anniversary episode, host Grace Stevens reflects on a year of empowering educators to reclaim their work-life balance.

🌟 Highlights:

• Top 3 guest interviews that sparked important conversations
• Most downloaded episodes that resonated with listeners
• Practical strategies for avoiding burnout and setting boundaries
• The surprising truth about "restorative justice" in schools
• Why progressive discipline still matters (backed by research!)

🎧 Featured Guests:

1. Ryan Steuer on project-based learning for all grade levels
2. Casey Maguire on the "sober curious" movement for stressed teachers
3. Justin Baeder on rethinking disciplinary practices and restorative justice in schools

🔥 Hot Topics:

• 5 signs you might be burning out (and what to do about it)
• The science behind burnout vs. compassion fatigue
• How to protect yourself from vicarious trauma

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📚 Free Resources Mentioned:

For FREE resources to help support evidence-driven progressive discipline visit: https://www.principalcenter.com/pd/

For FREE resources on project-based learning visit: https://www.magnifylearningin.org/pbl-simplified-video-series

For Casey Mc Guire's FREE 30-Day Sober Guide visit: https://hellosomedaycoaching.com/30-day-sober-guide/

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Transcript

Welcome back teacher friends. Here we are. This is week two of my celebration of one year of podcasting and you are not going to want to miss this episode. I love it. I had the best time going back. I decided to do a best of and so in this episode I'm going to talk about my three favorite guests. Two of whom I'm super proud of myself for, for putting on only because they are probably not popular choices for everybody.

So I feel like I was in integrity there in talking about what I really feel needs to be talked about. So kind of pleased about that. So we're going to talk about those three episodes, my top three guests, all my guests were amazing, but these were the top three the most popular with listeners. And some really deep learnings that I had.

So I'm gonna give you clips from those episodes and talk about those. I'm also gonna tell you your favorite three episodes. Which episodes really resonated the most? So that if you're new to the podcast, go listen to those first, like, oh wow, everybody was raving about these. These must be the good ones.

Okay. And then I'm also going to talk about even my favorite review. Hey, you know what? I am not for everybody and I'm so okay with that. But and some of the reviews are funny, but my favorite review. Okay, hold on to your hats and it is all coming up inside this episode. I think it's gonna become a fan favorite in itself.

All right, I'll see you on the inside.  Welcome to the Balance Your Teacher Life podcast, where we talk all things avoiding educator burnout, setting healthy boundaries, and achieving better work life balance.  If you're passionate about education, but tired of it consuming your whole life, you have found your home in the podcast universe.

I'm your host, Grace Stevens, and let's get going with today's show.

All right. Here we go. I would like to acknowledge right now that I'm not truly being self indulgent. I mean, in some ways I am because I am going to be talking about my favorite episodes, my favorite guests. But in giving you this overview, I'm wanting to introduce you to some people who I really think can move the needle for you and maybe open your ideas to your mind to new ideas.

And then, of course, part of is also going to be With regards to your favorite episodes. So what were the fan favorites? Okay. But let me start with this. If you, if somebody was to come to me and say to me, okay, Grace, you've been doing this now for a year, you're over 60 episodes in,  you've got some degree of competency with it.

Hey, not for the editing. I'll tell you that, but nevermind. We got room to grow, right? I kept, I kept thinking a year in, I'd have some money to be able to hire somebody to do all those things. I was wrong, but that's okay. We'll, we'll keep going. We got enough skills to get it up where it needs to be to make the blog codes, to post those things, to, to get an email out to people.

We got enough skills to get by. We're not listening in for the production quality, right? You could go listen to some true crime for that. They have like 15 people working on each episode there. You're calling in for the.  So if somebody were to say to me, what are your favorite episodes, hands down two, one is always with guests.

I always feel so energized with guests. Like I, I feel like I choose really great people. I'm, I'm pretty discerning. There are a lot of people who want to get on called podcasts and, and, and sell their wares and I'm only going to have people on who I think really are going to have value for their, a, are going to give stuff away for free.

There's that, right? I don't feel like I want to be charging, you know listeners for anything. And I also, you know, people who I feel can add value to the conversation different than myself. Okay. So it's always going to be the guests or always going to be the episodes. That I love  one because yes, I, I like different voices too.

You know, it's kind of weird sitting in a room talking to yourself, right? So it's always fun to have that energy to burn off with somebody else. Always enjoy those. And then the other ones I love. are actually the bonus episodes. Those are the lunchbox love notes. Those short episodes, I don't send an email to my list.

I don't write a blog post, like they're kind of under the radar. And these are just shorty episodes that I put out into the universe when I feel inspired to tell somebody.  I feel like it's a virtual hug, right? You know, when you used to find that love note in your lunchbox, hopefully from maybe your parents when you were little, or someone who cares for you as an adult, right?

It usually shows up just as like a surprise to let you know, Hey, I see you. You're important to me. You matter. Here's a virtual hug, right? So I love those. And funnily enough, not, you know, those are, I don't advertise those and those have been some of the most downloaded episodes ever. So that makes me feel good.

One in particularly on January 21st. I don't know if everyone was having a tough January. I did one called Never Doubt Your Impact.  And that has been downloaded, I think, more than any other podcast episode I've ever done. So those are my favorites, right? Interviewing guests and then the Lunchbox love notes, the bonus episodes.

Okay. So let's, let me cut it down to my top three guests. Okay. And now in the ideal world, I would have some beautiful audio clips. Yeah, I had some messed with them, tried to make them perfect, ended up messing them up and losing them. So there's that. But you can go listen to the whole episodes.

I'll give you a good Overview. I think I managed to get a couple of decent audio clips for the rest of it. We're not going to stress about it. All right. So I mentioned in the intro three guests that I really loved. I mean, I have loved them all for their warmth and the, and the things that they have to share and their passion for being committed to teacher self care.

I want to say thank you to Kaylee Lefko from Educalm. You can listen to that episode and to Dr. Noami Hall. Who was one of them. I think she might even have been my first guess about self care and better sleep and all those things. So those were wonderful. But the three I have chosen are because, oh, and just for the pure joy of it, Phil Januszewski, if you just want to laugh and be happy.

And feel his contagious energy. Go listen to that episode where he talks about his energy level and how he was on. It was the most random thing that I asked him about. You know, I read author's bios. I get to know them a little bit on social media and something that fascinated me about Phil was his.

Was that he had been on this Netflix show about baking. He loves to bake and he made this alien cake. And anyway, it was very, very fun. So shout out to Phil there. Okay. But the three guests I'm going to talk about one is more traditional to, as I mentioned in the intro, really proud of myself because their conversations, not a lot of people are having, and I feel they need to be.

Talked about, but let's start with the first one, which was a wonderful episode and it was.  With the wonderful Ryan Steuer from project, it's about project based learning. Let's see what number that was. I wrote it down.  Yeah, you'd think, right? Well, let me just tell you about him and then I'll find you the episode number 34.

34, episode 34. Oh my gosh. So first off, he has the best.  podcasting voice ever could listen to him talk forever. He, man, smooth as butter, that voice. Also the most fascinating background, like engineer came in engineer because he thought that's, you know, it's what his dad did and he thought that's what he was supposed to do, eighth grade teacher and missionary.

And, and now the head of this corporation that provides so many free and excellent resources for teachers interested in project based learning for all grade levels. Okay. I had had kind of had this misconception of project based learning being, you know, for older levels, but he gives some wonderful examples and I'll share one with you in a minute of how to get it.

Students involved in the lower grades and what I really loved is some of the conversations we had about really how empowering students to have a voice and a choice. How do you do that without getting into. Overwhelm for students, right? Anybody who's tried project based learning might have like given up early because, oh my gosh, these kids just could not decide on a project, right?

We wanted to give them, you know, an element of choice, but we didn't give them enough structure and it turned out being frustrated for everybody. So that has been the experience of a lot of teachers. And so Ryan and I really go into this advice on how to give them a voice and a choice, but with enough structure.

Okay. And he shared a ton of free resources and I will put them again in the show notes, but he has, oh my goodness me, 52 video series on YouTube.  on Project Based Learning Fundamentals. He has a free ebook he was offering to everybody, PBL Simplified. And really anybody who's interested in learning how great project based learning really is for teachers.

And students, you know, one of the things that I found really burnt me out as I was going into the latter years of my teaching and I moved into a school that was very regimented and inflexible. to be honest, about every single minute of the day what we were doing. Academic rigor and this and small group and now you're on this page.

Everybody had to be on the same page and the scope of sequence in the grade span. It was just really it was stifling and you know I have done so much studying of the research of happiness, right, that's kind of my niche is, is taking that research and turning it into practical.  Habits in the classroom that any teacher can use.

Right. That's kind of my, what I would call zone of genius. But so I know that one of the key components of happiness is occupational self direction. And so when teachers are allowed to feel like they can be creative we have more job satisfaction when students feel they can work on things that they They're interested in, of course, they're going to be more engaged.

They're going to work harder. It's going to be amazing. OK, so I would really suggest listening to that episode if you are wanting to get started with project based learning.  My favorite part, again, was when he talked about different projects for different grade spans, because I challenged him. I said, well, what about lower kids?

How lower grade kids, what can they do? And he had some very nice ideas. So if you want to go back and listen to that, it was episode 34.  And definitely worth a listen, definitely  want to encourage people to give project based learning a go. It will really reinvigorate your students excitement and engagement level.

And, and he gave lots of examples of ways you could incorporate it. To things you're already doing, let's say. you are in the extra district, like I was, where there was very little time. So he gave a wonderful example of, let's say you have first grade, a first grade standard is always, you know, community helpers, right?

And so a lot of times about first grade teachers, you know, either we took, I remember taking my kids to the fire station, it was just up the street, but either you have a fire truck come in or a you know a police car come in. And so that's something that we ordinarily do. Well, how about taking it a step further?

And if we really wanted to involve the community, which is part of, you know, a critical part of project based learning, an idea he had was what if you could have the first graders work on, you know, their letter writing skills. And if they were to try and set up a fundraising project to earn some money towards, let's say, a canine dog or something, something that really sparks their interest.

You could help them write letters to the community and then they could show up at the board meeting and read their letters, you know, get all dressed up. And that's where he came up with this idea of who doesn't love a first grader in a tie? You're right, who doesn't, right? So it's tying into the standards But at the same time, it is stretching student skills.

It's capturing their interest. I remember in first grade, I didn't, you know, it was before I knew it was called project based learning. I read my kids, The Great Kopach Tree. And one child was, you know, I asked everybody, what do you see in the picture? It was a big book. Y'all remember the big books where you sit in the chair and you open the, you know, the huge books and it was so colorful, that book.

I just love it. And kids were like, Oh, I like the picture of this. I like the picture of that. And one girl said to me, Oh, it made me feel sad because of the deforestation. Okay. This kid was six. She must watch a lot of PBS. So We had this project, we decided that we were going to feel empowered and we were going to raise money to save some acres of the rainforest.

And it turned out to be a fantastic project, especially with math, oh my gosh, the change that we collected the, we got these change boxes you know, where you put your change in from the World Wildlife Federation, I believe it was. They donated them for free. I sent them home with the kids. Well, kids were coming in with, you know, buckets full of change and we had to sort it and count it and write thank you letters, and I think we ended up saving, I don't know, 66 acres of the rainforest.

It was a great project. We really enjoyed it. I still, I think somewhere I have the framed certificate that they sent me, but anyway, all right, go listen to that episode. Sorry, I couldn't get you a clip, but he has the best pod voice ever. All right. So that was my first guest favorite was based on project based learning learning Ryan Steuer.

Okay. Now for the next two, I'm really proud of myself because I feel they are, again, conversations people are not necessarily having. So one of them is was the episode I did in January and it was Casey Maguire. Now Casey Maguire is in fact a sober coach for women.  Let that, let that sink in for a minute.

Yeah, I went there. I went there. I called, I called in a sober coach for women to talk about the fact. Now, it wasn't totally random. I know Casey through a forum that I'm in with other podcasters and other things. She's a phenomenal podcaster. She has a website called hellosomeday. com and fantastic resources there.

Her most popular resource is a 30-day sober guide. It is a free guide to help you through your first 30 days of sobriety. And so I had her in in January because a lot of people,  including educators, up on the dry January trend. And so I wanted to address the fact that The unspoken fact, really, is that many teachers, not many, I don't know, I know teachers who have struggled.

I know everybody, lots of people who have struggled. It's not just for teachers, but it is  I think the more stressful teaching and life gets, the more used to people are for relying on supports to help them, a quick fix, as opposed to, you know true self care, which is, you know, Takes a longer time, those habits and so I wanted to address the fact in support people, if any educator was what we call sober curious, maybe you're just curious about it, let's hear about it what resources are available, what support is there?

And so Casey's husband Is actually a middle school principal. So she knows very well what the pressures of teaching are. And she's a very interesting woman. She was like really high up in a fortune 500 company, two young children, and she describes herself as a wine girl.  She was really using red wine as, you know, really talking about kind of how it's the wine culture and the, the wine mom culture and how it's kind of glorified and and it wasn't making her live her best life.

And so she took the plunge to become sober. I think it's probably about eight or nine years now, and she has never looked back. And so.  We really discussed things like the allure and the cost of the teaching drinking culture, right? The benefits of, of, of going dry for 30 days. So many amazing benefits I didn't even know of.

And then how do you go about making a life dash? Lifestyle shift with new rituals part of her our discussion was based on how you set yourself up with a bunch of sober treats, like ways you're going to reward yourself that don't involve alcohol or smoking weed, it could do, you know, we're talking about alcohol,  but you could as easily be talking about, you know, other recreational drugs, other things of that nature.

How, you know, she was drinking a bottle of wine a day, you know, even if you buy in the cheap wine, 10, 15 bucks, whatever, that really adds up. And she had set herself up this lovely kind of choice board of beautiful things she could do for herself with that money. Get the massage, get the pedicure. You know, go sit in a coffee shop and enjoy your coffee just with a magazine.

You know, how that's an important part of your strategy. So anyway, she shares her wisdom, her encouragement and great resources. If 30 day alcohol free experiment, you know, just look at it like that as an experiment. And In a complete and utter judgment free zone I get pretty vulnerable myself in the episode and you know, I just love her idea about, you know what, if you've, you know, if you falter some days, you know, don't, don't make it a story.

Don't make it be about anything. There is no shame in wanting to take control of the world. what you put in your body. In fact, I think I went off on a tangent there, and I really passionately feel that what we put in our body is one of the last autonomies we have, right? So we were talking about the pressure of, the social pressure of drinking, and how it's great these days that they have so many, you know, mocktails and other things, so we don't have to feel self conscious or feel that we need to justify our not drinking.

And I had really, you know, why should we have to do that? Right. I don't, I don't make comments on what other people put in their body. And I don't feel like people should make comments about my choice not to drink many times. Right. I mean, Certainly, I'm not going to let somebody drive drunk. I'm going to be a responsible citizen.

I'm going to wrestle the car keys of somebody and call the Uber. But you know, I'm not going to shame anybody for them choosing to drink or choosing not to drink, right? That's just part of the whole conversation. So anyway, that episode was at the beginning of the year. And let me see if I can get you, it was episode number 21, and I will put in the show notes where you could get Casey's guide for for sober living, the 30 day guide.

And it's an excellent resource.  Okay. So totally changing gears here. The third one of my favorite guest episodes. Now, these were in no particular order because I have to say this guy, I really wanted to have On the  podcast for since before the podcast began, I had kind of come across him on TikTok.

He seemed like one of the few really people in education who were  a solution oriented, very intelligent, very well researched and really cut into the chase and not wanting to mince words and wanting to Help people see the insanity of what is going on. And this episode was with Justin Baer and it was the episode on restorative justice.

And basically what it was, it was, this was also one of the top episodes that listeners enjoyed, but I got to say Really, it was about progressive discipline and how that was one of the foundational supports that was really important in education. And when we've added on all these extra kind of things that probably these initiatives that at the beginning, you know, were well intentioned, PBIS, restorative practice, we had this long discussion about how those should be in addition to  progressive.

Discipline. That just like when you build a house, when you watch those shows, the DIY shows, and we're, we're very educated now, we've been watching these for a couple of decades, right? House hunters and all those things, and, and, and how to fix up your house in a week, all these wonderful shows, we know that when the person says, oh, I want to pull out this wall and tear out the kitchen, and the presenter says, that's a load bearing wall.

What does that mean? That means the whole house is going to come a tumbling down if you pull that out. Well, progressive discipline, basically when a teacher has really reached the end of what they can do with a student inside their classroom, as far as  consequences go, and we send that kid to the office,  And as we may be aware, we may have experienced that student later comes back, not only without a punishment,  but sometimes even brandishing some candy and a smirk.

Or as one lady told me on TikTok, Oh my gosh, I wish it was candy. They come back with chips. I mean, how disrespectful. Firstly, you did not discipline the child. Secondly, you rewarded them for their poor behavior. And thirdly, you sent them back to class. With a snack that is so loud and distracting. Like, come on, like, it's almost a joke.

In fact, Justin at the beginning said he thought it was hyperbole. He thought teachers were exaggerating when he was seeing them. On TikTok saying I'm so fed up with sending my kids to the office and coming back with a piece of candy. He was like, there's no way that's happening. But yeah, it's happening, right?

Hopefully it hasn't happened to you, but it is happening. So anyway, this was one of the most  sensible Conversations, well researched, well reasoned on how we need to, schools need to be empowered and take back control to actually have the ability to enforce consequences for students. We need to keep students safe.

in school. We want to do right by students. We absolutely do.  But at the same time, you know, when I touched on this in the an episode just a couple of weeks ago where I told people you've got to really, you know, double down on your classroom management plan because in places like California it's getting harder and harder to actually suspend students.

So we've got to have some structural supports there. So Justin had some. Wonderful free resources that he gives to people on progressive discipline, I'm going to put that in the show notes and I did manage to grab a clip from him because if you hear his voice and you're on TikTok a lot, you'll be like, Oh my God, that guy, he's the best, right?

I promise you that's conversation. That's what you're going to say right now. He's the best. the best. Yes, he is the best. But he is the clip I managed to grab was one where he talks about how flawed the research is as far as restorative justice goes. Now, he's not saying that, you know, it's a bad idea.

He's saying it's a good idea on top of progressive discipline. PBIS the same. He told me all about the research on that, how that is actually good research, but how the program has been implemented in schools with PBIS rooms and this token economy of awards every few seconds and trinkets and points and all these things like it was not part of the whole, you know, It was not what was originally envisioned and what was originally tested.

So anyway, he is very articulate and and researched in that. But let me see if I can get you this, this clip here.

Justin Baeder:discipline that causes students to have negative life outcomes. That research base is Is just frankly garbage. It is very, very poor quality, very, very ideological in nature and really just illogical when you read it.

And I'll give one example. I, I feel good picking on this study because it was extremely well funded and it was done by smart people who should have known better. This is the the LaCasse et al study on New York city. And what they did to demonstrate the reality of the school to prison pipeline, which is, You know, quite questionable is they looked at a database of incidents and consequences.

And they said, if we punish students more strictly, do they have worse life outcomes compared to other students who were involved in the same incident who didn't get the same consequence? And not surprisingly, they found that students who got a more severe consequence had worse life outcomes. But if you think for a second about what the comparison group is, if you have an incident database, who is in that database that didn't get consequences.

And the researchers set this up so that we're meant to think that it was some sort of experiment. Well, group a will give a consequence in group B. We won't give a consequence and we'll see which has the greater impact. They made us think that that's what their data was. This was not an experiment though.

This was data that was analyzed. after the fact that had not been collected for that purpose. The other group in that database is the victims. and the witnesses. So of course, the students who don't get a consequence are going to have better outcomes because they weren't the perpetrators of those behavior incidents, right?

It is the, the students who did it, who got the consequence. And of course things are going to not go as well for them in life because of the,  you know, the wide variety of factors that contribute to their behavior and of course their behavior itself. So this is characteristic of just about all of the research on school discipline.

Like, frankly, I understand it because  I can imagine it would be difficult to establish a career and a reputation as an education researcher on, you know, the, the topic of suspension, Hey, isn't suspension great. Isn't it great to kick kids out of school? Like I get that it's not, you know, an appealing thing, but back to that load bearing wall, you know, kicking kids out of school is deeply unpleasant.

It is terrible.  It, it makes us feel awful, but when the alternative is trapping behaviors in school that make school unviable for everybody else and, you know, exposing students to violence from students who, who just are not willing to be safe around other people I think that we've, we've just gotta, you know, have that backbone and be willing to do what needs to be done to, to keep everybody safe.

All right, so there you have it. No mincing of words there. The fabulous Ryan Beyer. Go ahead and listen to that whole episode if you want. It was episode number  51, Rethinking Restorative Practices in Schools. And again, I will go ahead and put his The link to get the free resources for Progressive Discipline at hi.

His just insight is the principal center.com Principal with an A. Of course. All right, so so many beautiful moments in that interview and just some good old common sense. Okay. All right. So those were my favorite episodes. Not all about me. Turns out those were some of your favorites too. So again, I'm going to talk about the three most downloaded episodes from a reader standpoint, listener standpoint, excuse me, at this point. So one of them was one of those the Lunchtime Love Notes, Never Doubt Your Impact. And that was on January 21st. That's just a little jolt of inspiration that you can listen to for less than 10 minutes.

There isn't an episode number because the Lunchbox  Love Notes are bonus episodes. Okay.  All right. And then the other the, the one that I just talked about, about the progressive discipline, that was definitely one of the most downloaded episodes, and then another couple that stuck out was episode 23.

It was about teacher burnout and the five signs that you might be burning out. That was really well received. And then episode 16 the science behind burnout. Burnout versus compassion fatigue. Right? So this whole discussion of what is compassion fatigue? How is it different than burnout? What do we do with it?

How do we overcome it? How do we protect ourselves from vicarious trauma? in still care about students and not just, you know, shut down because it's overwhelming to our nervous system, our mental, emotional, physical health, all those things like real issues that teachers deal with. So I really love,  I really love that when I look at the episodes that are most downloaded, most listened to, they are the episodes that have practical strategies with things.

that teachers are struggling with. Okay, I want to help you. The mission of this podcast is to empower, empower teachers. Teaching is so difficult right now and I want to empower you and I want to give you the skills and the strategies and the mindsets that are all scientifically validated. Okay, so that's going to bring me to, I'm going to try and wrap it up here quick, keep these episodes to around 30 minutes for you.

So I said, I was going to tell you one of my favorite reviews. Okay. So I have reviews across a couple of platforms. I know it's hard to leave a review on a phone. Oh my gosh. I know that. And so many of you listen when you're driving and doing all those things. So I would ask you if you, when you have a chance, just smash the five stars.

That really helps. It really helps with the algorithm for more people to find the show. You know, what else helps? Send an episode to a colleague, tell a colleague about it, pay it forward. Okay. I really want to get a huge momentum in this whole idea of just teachers helping teachers. I really believe in that.

But anyway, having said that, I do have quite a few reviews across different platforms, but my favorite by far said that Grace is the perfect combination  of of practicality and woo woo.  I just love that. Okay you know, I have described myself, I've heard this term before, woo adjacent, and I describe myself as that.

Like, if you just listen to a lot of my stuff out of context, you'll be like, this lady probably has crystals. I do not not that there is anything wrong with that. I try not to, I am a deeply spiritual person. I believe there is a huge intersection between spirituality and science. I try not to nerd out of new with the brain science because kind of, that's my passion and my hobby.

And I have watched too many people in my life, their eyes glaze over when I do a deep dive into the brain science. And so I don't want, you know, to lose listeners. So I try and keep it a little bit more upbeat and And I do, you know, dive into a little bit of the science, but I also, I'm kind of like, you know, this good, I'm a, you know, I'm a big hugger.

I'm European. If I was to meet you on the street and you said, Hey, I listened to your podcast, you would get a kiss on two cheeks. You know what? That's how I roll. You know, so anyway. Alright, so I, there is a new feature on Buzzsprout, I don't know if anyone's listening on Buzzsprout, but it went through and put in the beginning of every single show notes, it says message me, it's a way that you could text and leave a message on, right on the app where you're listening, if you're listening on Buzzsprout, and the message will go straight to me so if you want to do that, hey, tell me about your favorite episode, I would love to know what your favorite was You can email me at any time grace at grace stephens.

com and you should know at this point  in my life and my career, I'm going to tell you, I email back every single person that emails me. I am not that popular, I gotta say and I'm happy about that. If it gets to the point wherever it's unmanageable I will not make that promise that I will get back to everybody individually, but at this point I can still do that.

So if you want to email me and tell me your favorite episode, that would be great too. All right, well, I'm Looking up, I have my production schedule set for the next few months. I am so excited about the topics we are going to cover and I look forward. I think we are just getting started with this podcast.

I want to thank every single person who listened, who. Referred somebody who took the time to smash the stars. I know there is so much content out there that you can listen to. I am truly humbled at how many people do listen to this podcast and, and I feel we can, we can be a revolution of positivity, if not quite positivity in education, at least survival.

Surviving with a little more grace sounds like a good, a good goal for all of us. Okay, I cannot wait to see what the next year brings, but in the meantime, until next week, I believe in you, I believe you can have a better teaching experience. And until next time, create your own path and bring your own sunshine.