{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":0.0,"endTime":6.04,"body":"Welcome to Classroom Dynamics, a teacher podcast. I'm your host, Adam Todd. Get"},{"startTime":6.04,"endTime":10.16,"body":"ready to tap into the power of motivation and innovative teaching strategies."},{"startTime":10.16,"endTime":14.12,"body":"Together, we'll ignite a love for learning in your students, fostering an"},{"startTime":14.12,"endTime":18.24,"body":"inclusive environment where every child can thrive. Join us on this"},{"startTime":18.24,"endTime":22.16,"body":"transformational adventure that empowers you to unlock your full potential as"},{"startTime":22.16,"endTime":29.6,"body":"an educator. This is Classroom Dynamics, where inspiration meets innovation."},{"startTime":29.6,"endTime":35.92,"body":"Welcome to Classroom Dynamics, the podcast where we explore the innovative"},{"startTime":35.92,"endTime":40.72,"body":"changes to technology and education in bite-size form. Hi everybody, I'm your"},{"startTime":40.72,"endTime":44.4,"body":"host, Adam Todd and today we have an incredible educational leader to"},{"startTime":44.4,"endTime":49.72,"body":"introduce you to, Eric Sheninger. Eric is a renowned educator, speaker and author"},{"startTime":49.72,"endTime":54.04,"body":"who has dedicated his career to transforming education and empowering"},{"startTime":54.04,"endTime":58.2,"body":"students and teachers alike. With over 20 years of experience and education,"},{"startTime":58.2,"endTime":62.52,"body":"Eric's expertise lies in the integration of technology and digital learning"},{"startTime":62.52,"endTime":67.44,"body":"strategies, his goal to create innovative and engaging learning environments."},{"startTime":67.44,"endTime":72.0,"body":"Throughout his career, Eric has held numerous leadership positions, including"},{"startTime":72.0,"endTime":76.28,"body":"serving as the principal of New Milford High School in New Jersey, where he spearheaded"},{"startTime":76.28,"endTime":81.28,"body":"a dynamic transformation by leveraging technology and implementing a student"},{"startTime":81.28,"endTime":86.0,"body":"centered approach. His efforts at New Milford gained national recognition and"},{"startTime":86.0,"endTime":89.92,"body":"led to the school being named a Blue Ribbon School and a digital Promise School of"},{"startTime":89.92,"endTime":94.8,"body":"Innovation. But Eric's commitment to educational excellence went way beyond his"},{"startTime":94.8,"endTime":98.32,"body":"own school, as he worked with districts across the globe to revolutionize"},{"startTime":98.32,"endTime":103.2,"body":"teaching and learning practices. As a respected international keynote speaker,"},{"startTime":103.2,"endTime":108.2,"body":"Eric has inspired educators at conferences and workshops worldwide, sharing his"},{"startTime":108.2,"endTime":112.44,"body":"vision for the future of education and providing practical strategies for success."},{"startTime":112.44,"endTime":116.36,"body":"He's also an accomplished author having written several influential books,"},{"startTime":116.36,"endTime":120.96,"body":"including Uncommon Learning, creating schools that work for kids and most"},{"startTime":120.96,"endTime":125.88,"body":"recently disruptive thinking. 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He's an educational leader, a"},{"startTime":216.16,"endTime":220.32,"body":"technology advocate and an author. Please welcome Eric Shenigard to classroom"},{"startTime":220.32,"endTime":225.24,"body":"dynamics. Welcome to the show. Awesome to be here. Excited to chat. Thank you. I"},{"startTime":225.24,"endTime":231.44,"body":"really do appreciate the time you've taken out for us today. No worries. So I'm"},{"startTime":231.44,"endTime":235.2,"body":"really excited to have you on because I've been following you on social media for"},{"startTime":235.2,"endTime":239.36,"body":"years now. I mean I think probably ever since you probably started with social"},{"startTime":239.36,"endTime":246.24,"body":"media and your message is also so strong and always remain constant and so"},{"startTime":246.24,"endTime":250.76,"body":"inspirational to teachers and I think that's what really enhanced my technology"},{"startTime":250.76,"endTime":256.56,"body":"you know just the understanding and the purpose. Just can you take us back to"},{"startTime":256.56,"endTime":261.4,"body":"where it all started? What got you in your career? What got you into technology or"},{"startTime":261.4,"endTime":266.8,"body":"even just educational leadership? Yeah well that being technology was a"},{"startTime":266.8,"endTime":271.44,"body":"traumatic experience but all backtrack in terms of leadership that I'll"},{"startTime":271.44,"endTime":277.08,"body":"back to the technology piece. You know when I became a teacher I coach three"},{"startTime":277.08,"endTime":281.96,"body":"sports. I advise the environmental club. You know I really wanted to try to have"},{"startTime":281.96,"endTime":288.24,"body":"as much either direct or indirect impact on students and my father was a"},{"startTime":288.24,"endTime":293.04,"body":"principal for over 30 years at the same school in New Jersey and I guess in a"},{"startTime":293.04,"endTime":296.88,"body":"sense I wanted to make a bigger difference but I also wanted to be like dad and"},{"startTime":296.88,"endTime":302.04,"body":"you know after some time in the classroom I pursued my degree in administration"},{"startTime":302.04,"endTime":308.0,"body":"and the rest is history. I eventually became an administrator in the New"},{"startTime":308.0,"endTime":312.96,"body":"Millford school district in New Jersey. I served various roles in a brief amount"},{"startTime":312.96,"endTime":317.64,"body":"of time. I was athletic director of ice principal and before I know it before I"},{"startTime":317.64,"endTime":323.84,"body":"knew I was principal where I wasn't that position for eight years and you know"},{"startTime":323.84,"endTime":329.24,"body":"with technology you know at the time I was a little bit younger I was in my"},{"startTime":329.24,"endTime":335.32,"body":"30s. I thought I had it all figured out I really thought the key to being"},{"startTime":335.32,"endTime":340.6,"body":"innovative was just having access to the stuff. State-of-the-art computer labs"},{"startTime":340.6,"endTime":346.96,"body":"interactive whiteboards. 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Wow I mean that's I think that mirrors a lot of what I've experienced as"},{"startTime":437.68,"endTime":443.16,"body":"well in terms of yes you could have that interactive whiteboard you could use"},{"startTime":443.16,"endTime":448.4,"body":"those devices but using it to enhance the learning experience I think for the"},{"startTime":448.4,"endTime":455.6,"body":"kids and and almost in that 2009 to present day this this gray area that is now"},{"startTime":455.6,"endTime":461.4,"body":"starting to change and evolve into something else and become that transition zone"},{"startTime":461.4,"endTime":466.48,"body":"between what we used to think and how we used to teach versus all these tools"},{"startTime":466.48,"endTime":470.8,"body":"and all the websites and all the you know bells and whistles that are out there"},{"startTime":470.8,"endTime":476.08,"body":"that teachers and kids now have at their fingertips. Yeah I think you we wrote a"},{"startTime":476.08,"endTime":481.84,"body":"very intriguing comments bells and whistles and and that's what we have to"},{"startTime":481.84,"endTime":487.04,"body":"cognizant of you know just because students are using technology just because"},{"startTime":487.04,"endTime":491.32,"body":"you're using technologies educator it doesn't mean that it is automatically"},{"startTime":491.32,"endTime":498.36,"body":"innovative practice you know innovation is new better but actual result that"},{"startTime":498.36,"endTime":503.8,"body":"substantiates new and better and you know what I always you know really think"},{"startTime":503.8,"endTime":509.8,"body":"about is you know two things how are learn how are students using technology to"},{"startTime":509.8,"endTime":515.8,"body":"learn in ways they couldn't without it and number two if you're an adult how does"},{"startTime":515.8,"endTime":521.12,"body":"your use of technology represent a fundamental 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people it's so but with you what's one thing that people may"},{"startTime":606.56,"endTime":611.92,"body":"not know about you that influenced your attraction to technology besides that or"},{"startTime":611.92,"endTime":619.48,"body":"was that it no that was not it even know the Jetsons actuary predicted zoom"},{"startTime":619.48,"endTime":627.4,"body":"meetings tell a doctor visits online classes you know I then you know you saw"},{"startTime":627.4,"endTime":633.36,"body":"that but you know you focused on the key here and now you know my focus was on the"},{"startTime":633.36,"endTime":643.92,"body":"ATRAC the boom box or 64 the Apple 2e the 64 yeah and you know my first"},{"startTime":643.92,"endTime":649.72,"body":"lip phone my blackberry but I really think and it took me a while to report the"},{"startTime":649.72,"endTime":657.08,"body":"register I think what really got me into the benefits and opportunities of"},{"startTime":657.08,"endTime":661.72,"body":"technology was mr. south who I also talk about in the book you know mr."},{"startTime":661.72,"endTime":666.12,"body":"south was my seventh and eighth grade science teacher I went to a K8 school in"},{"startTime":666.12,"endTime":671.32,"body":"rural New Jersey and yes there are rural parts of New Jersey everybody and he asked"},{"startTime":671.32,"endTime":676.88,"body":"us how will you colonize Mars and the class have to answer that question and he"},{"startTime":676.88,"endTime":682.28,"body":"put us in teams he used the cooperative learning jigsaw method where each team"},{"startTime":682.28,"endTime":689.16,"body":"was a piece to the puzzle wow the pieces fit together to help us colonize Mars and"},{"startTime":689.16,"endTime":693.92,"body":"he let us choose you know we think about choice he was doing choice way back in"},{"startTime":693.92,"endTime":699.12,"body":"the 80s he had us do research to choose an innovative solution that would help"},{"startTime":699.12,"endTime":706.28,"body":"the class colonize Mars my partner and I found through our very intense research"},{"startTime":706.28,"endTime":711.2,"body":"using the encyclopedia device called the master driver and a master driver was"},{"startTime":711.2,"endTime":716.16,"body":"like you mentioned Star Trek it was like a hypothetical space cannon that would"},{"startTime":716.16,"endTime":721.0,"body":"be on the moon and would basically propel resources using gravitational"},{"startTime":721.0,"endTime":725.72,"body":"forces from the surface of the moon to Mars where we caught on another device"},{"startTime":725.72,"endTime":732.12,"body":"Dan we didn't have to just research we had to build working prototypes we use"},{"startTime":732.12,"endTime":739.2,"body":"technology we actually using wires and circuits and batteries we actually"},{"startTime":739.2,"endTime":745.08,"body":"throw a research built a working prototype that shot toothpicks then he had"},{"startTime":745.08,"endTime":749.92,"body":"assigned permission slips and go to his creepy garage on the weekends which"},{"startTime":749.92,"endTime":754.88,"body":"you can't do more and and I say creepy because it was in the middle of nowhere but"},{"startTime":754.88,"endTime":760.2,"body":"it was like a technological haven and we built a larger prototype that shot tennis"},{"startTime":760.2,"endTime":765.2,"body":"balls so you think about choice you think about personalization"},{"startTime":765.2,"endTime":770.44,"body":"how useful use of technology he then had a five-point rubric for our research"},{"startTime":770.44,"endTime":774.56,"body":"paper that we had the right so it took me a while to really put the pieces"},{"startTime":774.56,"endTime":780.6,"body":"together that a none of this is new and and that's what really holds educators"},{"startTime":780.6,"endTime":784.92,"body":"back when they see a new tool they see it as just another thing they have to do"},{"startTime":784.92,"endTime":789.4,"body":"they don't have time you know good teaching is good teaching learning is"},{"startTime":789.4,"endTime":793.52,"body":"learning leadership is leadership right answer your question it really was"},{"startTime":793.52,"endTime":799.2,"body":"Mr. South that unintentionally put me on the track to where I am today does he"},{"startTime":799.2,"endTime":803.56,"body":"know that have you ever had a chance to actually tell me oh yeah or was just it"},{"startTime":803.56,"endTime":809.52,"body":"I dedicated one of my books oh wow nice very nice that's great so I mean"},{"startTime":809.52,"endTime":814.36,"body":"obviously you're a great enthusiastic and very energetic communicator you you"},{"startTime":814.36,"endTime":818.96,"body":"know really portray through story and just having the opportunity here you"},{"startTime":818.96,"endTime":821.84,"body":"even now and I've heard you before you know this is not the first time I've I've"},{"startTime":821.84,"endTime":828.88,"body":"listened to you being able to address audiences around the world and have those"},{"startTime":828.88,"endTime":834.4,"body":"experiences talking to hundreds if not thousands of people at times I've done"},{"startTime":834.4,"endTime":841.28,"body":"that a couple times at isty I know you have as well is is that what you know doing"},{"startTime":841.28,"endTime":845.48,"body":"those kind of big conferences really interacting with an audience is that what"},{"startTime":845.48,"endTime":850.96,"body":"it kind of reaffirms the importance of your work and and and your drive to"},{"startTime":850.96,"endTime":855.96,"body":"educational excellence so to speak no that's a tricky question because you know"},{"startTime":855.96,"endTime":863.24,"body":"there are some people that their goal is to be onstage and for me that's part of"},{"startTime":863.24,"endTime":870.36,"body":"it but I don't want to be seen as the sage on the stage and what I try to do when"},{"startTime":870.36,"endTime":875.04,"body":"I get on stage is yeah you want to use brain research you want to touch on a"},{"startTime":875.04,"endTime":880.76,"body":"motion you want to get people laugh you want them to maybe shed a tear but I want"},{"startTime":880.76,"endTime":887.32,"body":"people to leave not just with hope but a concrete idea on how they can do this and"},{"startTime":887.32,"endTime":896.28,"body":"the one thing that I weave into all of my my my keynotes is that qualitative"},{"startTime":896.28,"endTime":900.96,"body":"evidence I'm showing what the pedagogical changes can look like through the"},{"startTime":900.96,"endTime":907.32,"body":"lens of teachers of administrators K-12 so yes I love getting on stage and doing"},{"startTime":907.32,"endTime":912.72,"body":"that but if I wasn't in classrooms if I wasn't working shoulder to shoulder"},{"startTime":912.72,"endTime":921.0,"body":"weekly with teachers administrators coaches I think my message would be pretty"},{"startTime":921.0,"endTime":928.8,"body":"substanceless and you know I spend I visit thousands of classrooms every year one"},{"startTime":928.8,"endTime":936.0,"body":"of my non-negotiables for myself is that I have to spend time in classrooms so I"},{"startTime":936.0,"endTime":940.84,"body":"have the needed context so I know the challenges that educators are dealing"},{"startTime":940.84,"endTime":946.04,"body":"with but then how I can kind of show the importance of feedback loops and how"},{"startTime":946.04,"endTime":952.32,"body":"educators they want timely practical specific feedback but to share those"},{"startTime":952.32,"endTime":959.88,"body":"successes you know there's no bigger motivator than success success breed success"},{"startTime":959.88,"endTime":966.92,"body":"and here's what educators always tell me Eric we know the why we hear it everywhere"},{"startTime":966.92,"endTime":974.92,"body":"every speaker talks about the why we need to know how do we do it and what can"},{"startTime":974.92,"endTime":984.28,"body":"it look like so I look at my role as multifaceted and even know I am I cannot say"},{"startTime":984.28,"endTime":990.32,"body":"that I am a practitioner because I am not employed by a school or district I"},{"startTime":990.32,"endTime":996.68,"body":"make sure that I spend a great deal of time shoulder to shoulder with those"},{"startTime":996.68,"endTime":1002.4,"body":"people whose stories that I am then fortunate to share when I am on stage I think"},{"startTime":1002.4,"endTime":1008.04,"body":"getting into the trenches and doing that is probably at the forefront of what it's"},{"startTime":1008.04,"endTime":1012.96,"body":"all about and it actually brings us it's a perfect segue into my next question so"},{"startTime":1012.96,"endTime":1019.08,"body":"you know even with disruptive thinking you encourage educators to be risk"},{"startTime":1019.08,"endTime":1023.88,"body":"takers to try new things and kind of step out of that comfort zone be innovators in"},{"startTime":1023.88,"endTime":1029.2,"body":"their classroom what strategies or advice would you give to teachers who may be a"},{"startTime":1029.2,"endTime":1033.36,"body":"little hesitant to step outside of that comfort you know comfort zone and and"},{"startTime":1033.36,"endTime":1038.16,"body":"adopt that disruptive thinking mindset what what kind of things would would"},{"startTime":1038.16,"endTime":1043.04,"body":"you give to them as a takeaway that they can actually implement yep and the"},{"startTime":1043.04,"endTime":1045.88,"body":"fiancee question I kind of just wanted to say you mentioned disrupt the"},{"startTime":1045.88,"endTime":1051.88,"body":"thinking and kind of want to define that yes please disrupt the thinking is the"},{"startTime":1051.88,"endTime":1057.4,"body":"ability of our learners to replace conventional ideas with innovative solutions"},{"startTime":1057.4,"endTime":1064.32,"body":"to authentic problems now notice there is no technology it is inferred a"},{"startTime":1064.32,"endTime":1069.88,"body":"technology is one of many ways to be a disruptive thinker but when we think about"},{"startTime":1069.88,"endTime":1074.44,"body":"disruptive events the pandemic the most disruptive event to ever impact"},{"startTime":1074.44,"endTime":1080.2,"body":"education the other major disruptive event that we will talk about on this"},{"startTime":1080.2,"endTime":1083.88,"body":"podcast because some things we don't want to talk about in terms of challenges"},{"startTime":1083.88,"endTime":1088.48,"body":"that educators are dealing with but technology is it just ruptor think about it"},{"startTime":1088.48,"endTime":1093.2,"body":"six months ago no one knew what chat gbt barred were we knew what art of"},{"startTime":1093.2,"endTime":1099.64,"body":"intelligence was mostly from sky net and terminator however you know now it's"},{"startTime":1099.64,"endTime":1105.36,"body":"it's here so for educators here's the thing everybody we are 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that you're always"},{"startTime":1793.92,"endTime":1798.08,"body":"going to remember yeah my favorite conversation is when they can really"},{"startTime":1798.08,"endTime":1803.4,"body":"articulate why they're learning what they're learning and how they're going to"},{"startTime":1803.4,"endTime":1809.28,"body":"use it outside of school and such an intriguing conversation you know with a"},{"startTime":1809.28,"endTime":1815.28,"body":"third grader who is really able to zero in on that meaning that authenticity that"},{"startTime":1815.28,"endTime":1822.36,"body":"relevance and just looking at the body language you can just see that they had a"},{"startTime":1822.36,"endTime":1829.52,"body":"sense of engagement empowerment but more importantly ownership over how they"},{"startTime":1829.52,"endTime":1832.4,"body":"were spending that time my wife's a third great teacher I'm sure she's gonna"},{"startTime":1832.4,"endTime":1837.92,"body":"appreciate that answer if you could go back in time when you were a kid and you"},{"startTime":1837.92,"endTime":1841.6,"body":"know watching those jets in episodes and you were able to give yourself one"},{"startTime":1841.6,"endTime":1846.96,"body":"piece of technology from today what would it be I was gonna I thought I'm gonna"},{"startTime":1846.96,"endTime":1853.76,"body":"ask me advice but I think you know the one piece of technology you know I think"},{"startTime":1853.76,"endTime":1860.04,"body":"I would have said to not resist the smartphone as long as I did the black"},{"startTime":1860.04,"endTime":1866.2,"body":"berry transformed my behavior in salt cases and I fought it for a long time and I"},{"startTime":1866.2,"endTime":1870.2,"body":"wish I would have started using that sooner which would have put me in the"},{"startTime":1870.2,"endTime":1875.12,"body":"social media space sooner and then I could have been a better principal years"},{"startTime":1875.12,"endTime":1879.56,"body":"earlier than I eventually became wow so you actually think that one marker of"},{"startTime":1879.56,"endTime":1884.32,"body":"time could have enhanced you a little bit yeah yeah wow okay that's a bit of a"},{"startTime":1884.32,"endTime":1890.02,"body":"space two to three years earlier wow so talk about success success is always"},{"startTime":1890.02,"endTime":1893.76,"body":"good to have but what's one failure you might have had the people may not be"},{"startTime":1893.76,"endTime":1899.4,"body":"aware of when I told my teachers to use technology because the little blue bird"},{"startTime":1899.4,"endTime":1904.78,"body":"started chirping in my ear and then I wrote memos and I sent emails and nothing"},{"startTime":1904.78,"endTime":1910.8,"body":"changed until I grabbed the nontenure teacher and I asked that teacher hey why are"},{"startTime":1910.8,"endTime":1915.1,"body":"you not changing I've given you everything and that teacher looked many eyes at"},{"startTime":1915.1,"endTime":1921.04,"body":"Eric we're not doing it because you're not doing it I failed because I was not"},{"startTime":1921.04,"endTime":1928.42,"body":"modeling don't do what you have not done or not willing to do yourself that is"},{"startTime":1928.42,"endTime":1936.3,"body":"what I learned from that failure wow that's a great answer finally if you can"},{"startTime":1936.3,"endTime":1940.38,"body":"challenge someone to make one small change in their classroom for the better"},{"startTime":1940.38,"endTime":1946.04,"body":"what would it be yeah I think that the one small change is just make sure you"},{"startTime":1946.04,"endTime":1952.08,"body":"provide clarity you know everything we do doesn't matter if kids don't understand"},{"startTime":1952.08,"endTime":1956.86,"body":"the purpose of what they're going to learn kids aren't always excited about"},{"startTime":1956.86,"endTime":1964.32,"body":"history ELA math science fizz ed the arts but providing that clarity and going"},{"startTime":1964.32,"endTime":1969.04,"body":"back to the work of Madeline Hunter having a hook and anticipatory set an"},{"startTime":1969.04,"endTime":1973.86,"body":"activity that really gets the kids motivated in the first couple minutes is"},{"startTime":1973.86,"endTime":1978.46,"body":"something that we know works but it's something that we might not always be"},{"startTime":1978.46,"endTime":1983.56,"body":"cognizant of well listen this has really been a lot of fun I truly appreciate your"},{"startTime":1983.56,"endTime":1988.16,"body":"time that you you took to sit down with us and talk to us today and I just want to"},{"startTime":1988.16,"endTime":1992.6,"body":"thank you again for for joining us my pleasure and everyone you know be sure to"},{"startTime":1992.6,"endTime":1996.88,"body":"check out disruptive thinking in our classrooms available on Amazon and it's"},{"startTime":1996.88,"endTime":2002.2,"body":"full of practical examples from teachers and school systems across the"},{"startTime":2002.2,"endTime":2007.32,"body":"country awesome thank you very much I really this was a lot of fun I actually"},{"startTime":2007.32,"endTime":2010.3,"body":"learned a lot a lot a lot more that you kind of don't you know you got kind of"},{"startTime":2010.3,"endTime":2014.76,"body":"get in between the lines there so it's kind of cool yeah the more we get"},{"startTime":2014.76,"endTime":2017.92,"body":"different perspectives of our experience yeah we're gonna have to have you on"},{"startTime":2017.92,"endTime":2022.52,"body":"again later another time I really appreciate it well I'd like to take this"},{"startTime":2022.52,"endTime":2026.52,"body":"opportunity to extend a huge thank you to Eric Shenigar for joining us today on"},{"startTime":2026.52,"endTime":2030.48,"body":"classroom dynamics and for taking time out of his busy schedule as an educator"},{"startTime":2030.48,"endTime":2034.52,"body":"an author and a speaker just to sit down with us for a few moments and share his"},{"startTime":2034.52,"endTime":2038.52,"body":"insights on the integration of technology and education his passion for"},{"startTime":2038.52,"endTime":2042.48,"body":"revolutionizing the classroom experience and harnessing the power of technology"},{"startTime":2042.48,"endTime":2047.96,"body":"to empower both educators and students is truly inspiring on its own and if"},{"startTime":2047.96,"endTime":2051.64,"body":"you've been on the fence on whether or not to do more with technology I hope you"},{"startTime":2051.64,"endTime":2055.8,"body":"becoming inspired to start that process now I'm grateful for the knowledge and"},{"startTime":2055.8,"endTime":2059.64,"body":"wisdom he's imparted leaving all of us with a renewed sense of excitement for"},{"startTime":2059.64,"endTime":2064.74,"body":"the future of education and that brings us to the end of this episode of"},{"startTime":2064.74,"endTime":2069.22,"body":"classroom dynamics where knowledge and inspiration meets innovation I hope"},{"startTime":2069.22,"endTime":2073.04,"body":"you've enjoyed today's discussion and founded both insightful and uplifting as"},{"startTime":2073.04,"endTime":2077.44,"body":"always my goal is to provide you with practical strategies engaging stories and"},{"startTime":2077.44,"endTime":2081.84,"body":"powerful insights that can fuel your motivation as an educator I believe that"},{"startTime":2081.84,"endTime":2085.56,"body":"when knowledge and inspiration do come together incredible things can happen"},{"startTime":2085.56,"endTime":2089.24,"body":"in your classroom and for all of you who may feel that it's too late to strengthen"},{"startTime":2089.24,"endTime":2093.44,"body":"your craft I challenge you to make it your mission to do so you've worked hard to"},{"startTime":2093.44,"endTime":2097.2,"body":"get to where you are today and it's never too late to infuse new life into your"},{"startTime":2097.2,"endTime":2102.32,"body":"work so why not 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