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The Abundant Practitioner Podcast By Dr Tilean
Ep. 77: From NHS to CEO: Building a Purpose-Led Consultancy with Dr. Hannah Dennis
In this deeply moving and powerfully practical episode, Dr. Tilean sits down with longtime client Dr. Hannah Dennis, the brilliant founder of HRD Consultancy.
What unfolds is a rich and vulnerable conversation about what it really takes to leave the safety of a 17-year NHS (National Health Service) career…
…to step into God’s greater vision of becoming a CEO,
…build a powerful, purpose-driven brand from scratch,
…and ultimately impact hundreds of lives while raising a family as a solo parent.
This is not just a business story, it's a story of spiritual obedience, deep healing, and becoming.
You’ll hear us talk about:
- What it looks like to start with just a seed of an idea and grow it into a growing and flourishing business vision that continues to unfold.
- Overcoming fear of judgment from colleagues, friends, and family.
- Redefining identity: from Clinical Psychologist to confident, soul-led CEO.
- How personal development + practical strategy helped her grow an audience of 950+ and run successful trainings
- The truth about learning funnels, tech, hiring and navigating the moments she wanted to throw the MacBook out the window.
- The power of community and mentorship in growing a sustainable, soul-aligned business.
- Her big, God-given vision to provide high-quality supported homes for individuals with intellectual disabilities
If you’ve ever questioned whether you're “too late,” “not tech-savvy enough,” or “not ready”… Hannah’s journey will inspire you to take the next faithful step forward.
She’s living proof that you don’t need it all figured out, you just need to start.
Here’s how to connect with Dr. Hannah Dennis:
Website: www.hrdconsultancy.co.uk
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Welcome to our podcast, designed for psychologists, therapists and counsellors who want to take their business online and live a soul, nourished and profitable life without compromise. If you want to know the secrets used by practitioners just like you to navigate the global e-learning market successfully, then you're in the right place. I'm Dr Talib, chartered Psychologist, business Mentor and your host, and welcome to the Abundant Practitioner Podcast. In today's discussion, we're doing something really new that we've not done before is I am going to be speaking with a fabulous, incredible woman called Dr Hannah Dennis, and she is the founder of HRD Consultancy. She has been a client within the Business Academy for four years. She is amazing. I'd love to even call her a friend. We recently met up for some, some drinks and and check-in and some advancement, you know, and it's just been such an incredible journey. Hannah, I have seen you like flourish before my eyes. The journey of just becoming and uncovering more and more and more of your God-given vision has been so beautiful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's definitely a journey and yeah, you know, I too call you a friend, so we did have fantastic time when we met up recently. But yeah, it's a journey, isn't it? This whole moving into business it has been quite a journey, and I know that the person I am now to say when we first went on that call together, if you had said I'd be doing this, I would. I don't know what I would have thought at that point, but I think I would have run a mile yeah, right, like the transformation you know, and I think that's really important place to start.
Speaker 1:And before we start there, though, like please tell. I know some people may like know you or seen you around, right, but do share. Like what is what's your mission? Like, what is HRD consultancy about?
Speaker 2:okay. So HRD consultancy is about empowering individuals with learning disabilities, intellectual disabilities, neurodivergence to live fulfilling lives. So we are very much about empowering them to reach their full potential. I totally, 100 percent believe that everybody has the right to reach their full potential, regardless of neurodivergence, regardless of disability, and I do that through HRD consultancy, through empowering leaders, through leaders work, but then also through empowering parents, as well as some individual bespoke consultancy. And I have plans for the future for other things, but I'm sure we can come on to that later yeah, absolutely, it's really flourished, it's really evolved.
Speaker 1:You know, and I know, when you um, when we first spoke, before you even stepped into the business academy, hannah was somebody that booked a call and we connected to talk about like, is this the right next step for me? Like what's this even about? I don't even know necessarily what I should do, right. So when we first met, this was one idea and maybe a seed of an idea, but there were other ideas going along, right yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So when we first met sort of just to put it into context like after people, I just um, I literally just left the NHS. I'd been in the NHS as a clinical psychologist working in learning disability services for about 17, 18 years. By that point. Um, I'd been doing for um a few years, probably about five years alongside the NHS I've been doing some private expert witness work and, because of things that were going on in my family, nhs just wasn't fitting for me at that time. I became a single mum or a double mum. My husband died about nine years ago now, so I had three children, two of whom are neuro neurodivergent, and I was trying to juggle that and the NHS and I needed something else, and so I had an idea about I want to do more with regards to training for leaders in learning disability services, because I could see that in NHS we would go in and we would do sort of some firefighting if somebody was in crisis, but actually I could see that services needed something at a different level, at a higher level, that was creating better services for people. But alongside that, I was also looking at the expert witness stuff and I was thinking, actually I'm meeting with solicitors and things that are dealing with real difficult trauma. You know vicariously through what they are doing with their clients and everything they're reading. And actually surely there's some work that could be done psychologically to support the well-being of the solicitors and those that were in the child proceedings that I was involved with and continue to be involved with actually. Um, so it was just like where do I go, what do I do? And I'd had this idea.
Speaker 2:But I always remember the day that we met for the first time, I'd put it off and I was like, right, I'm going to meet with Talene on the first day that my daughter goes back to school, because I will be clear. And then it turned out to be I can't remember whether it was a snow day or whether we'd just gone back into COVID and I was like, oh flip, I haven't child care now for my daughter. What am I going to do? How am I going to manage it? And then that morning a friend's pair a friend who just lived around the corner said oh, we're taking my, my daughter and or my granddaughter to the park at half 11. We had our appointment at 12 and it was like we're taking her at half 11. Would Lydia like to come too? And um, we'll look after her. For a couple of hours I was like, yes, it was like God was saying, yep, whatever gets thrown in the way, you need to meet with Talene. You've got to get there. You have to keep moving with this yeah, it was.
Speaker 1:Oh, I love that big, that share. Well, because it's so likely that when you start to head out on the path that you really see God laying out and it might even feel confusing, it might even feel unclear you can only see the next right step. That's something tries to come in and derail it. Right right step that something tries to come in and derail it, right, um, and I love that it just worked out for you and for her and for them, right, and for everybody else that gets to impact your work as you've been pressing forward, you know, um, so, yeah, so I hope that highlights to everybody here listening that Hannah started with some ideas of like, okay, I could be helping make impact here or here or here or in this way or in that way, but there was no real clear, like, the name of the business or the website of the business.
Speaker 1:Right, the business wasn't even there. Right, it was just the starting point of like, an idea, a thought, and then you headed off and, like you mentioned, you know it wasn't just you, right, life was around you. You just left the National Health Service. You have also three children. Right, like, there's so much that could have been like a but god, no, not yet right yeah, um, and you press forward anyway.
Speaker 1:What was what was saying yes to the journey? Like because sometimes people kind of perceive that they're going to be in a state of like yippee, yes, all aligned, let's go.
Speaker 2:Oh my word, it was scary it was really scary, investing in myself, um, and I, if I'm honest, I don't feel the NHS invested in my training after I was qualified very well, so I've invested far more in myself as a um, a lone private practitioner, than I've had before. And that was scary to do that because I'm used to other people paying for my training, I'm used to other people support. You know that all being managed through the or, at that point I was used to it being so there wasn't. You know, am I doing the right thing? But I think even within our first conversation and I think very much within that first conversation, you, you identified that my fire was in learning disabilities.
Speaker 2:That was where I, that was what lit me up and it does like, sorry, I could, I won't, but I could carry on talking about it at infinitum to you all, um, but that was, you know, you were really able to sort of like shape that quite early on and that that needed to be where I needed to go and sort of go away, think about that, develop that, um, so, yeah, there was. I don't think at that beginning point I had any. Well, no, I didn't have any idea what was to come. I knew I was taking a step. I wanted to make a course for leaders yeah.
Speaker 2:I didn't really understand any of the other stuff that I needed to do and that I've had to now sort of negotiate and work out. And website I think I had an idea that I was going to have to create a website, but I didn't know anything about marketing. I didn't know anything about funnels, didn't know anything about advertising and, um yeah, that just feels quite different now, through that journey absolutely, absolutely and right like.
Speaker 1:I love sharing that perspective as well, of being in a space and environment where the mind then is built of like, seeing, like. All my development, you know, has been in this way, right, which has felt really uncomfortable. And now I'm I'm taking that into my own hands in a way in my business. You would have done it in your own way anyway in some way, shape or form of some, some levels, but it's like a big way, a big commitment of OK, I'm going to build a business and I don't know about marketing, I don't know about tech or how to build a website. I assume I'm gonna have to have a website of some kind, right, um, assume I'm gonna have to build an audience of some kind.
Speaker 1:I don't know where to start, but what I do know is that I've seen somebody that has walked the paths ahead. You know it feels like a fit. I'm gonna jump in. I'm gonna jump in scared and but I'm gonna jump in aligned if that makes sense, right like. And I also remember you know there were being um thoughts of what others might think right around, yeah, which can totally come up for other people. Um, I know it's certainly at the beginning of my journey of well, you know, what would my mum think, or what would you know anyone think? Right, and that can come up. How was it dealing with that, anna, um?
Speaker 2:that was a real difficult journey, that bit, that aspect of what do others think, and I think that still continues today. Well, I know it still continues today that there's little bits of it and I know you've talked about and I love this analogy about like weeds in our garden, our brains, and that we need to pull out these negative weeds and that previously have served us but they don't serve us now, and so to work through that has been a huge journey. So I know that I really struggled with what would my NHS colleagues think? You know so, those that when I started to put myself out there on social media, what on earth are they going to think of me? And yet I've actually, you know, I have had positive feedback from quite a few of them. Like, I think they think, wow, it's amazing, you're doing it.
Speaker 2:And I'm now in a position of you know, well, I'm the one that's doing it, you're not, you know. So it's not being big-headed as such, but you know I've, I've taken a very different path. It is a very different path to theirs, but I can, um, I've been able to deal with those negative voices that I'd previously heard. Family was another one. Hearing family was a big, big issue of thinking about what my parents would think, what my sister would think, what friends would think. I was really worried about how, whether that would worry my yeah, would I become disconnected from my friends through going journey? That was a really, really big thing.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yes yeah, absolutely, you know it's. It is important to recognize that these, these thoughts, right, do impact in the beginning, yeah, and, and can still come up, right, like you're saying, like they still come up, but it's like a different relationship with it. Yeah, of like, if that thought is like oh, okay, that's there, but how am I navigating with it? Is different than maybe, you know, very different than how it was four years ago. Yeah, um, and that shifts in, like, because you have your business brand has a strong visibility, right, you've built a community, you've built instagram from scratch. You know you've been able to do that. We can talk about the practical sides of it, but the personal development side of it, the, the identity side of it, the psychological shifts and mindset changes around it, um, have really been important in that growth. Is there anything else you'd like to talk to about that and what has helped you grow a community of 900 and over 950?
Speaker 1:people, for example right, and I guess that's not the strategic part. We can can share the strategy part, but outside of that, what has that been about?
Speaker 2:So that personal development has been huge, so that leaning into beliefs that I've had about myself and having to develop a new identity as a CEO. So I had to say that I'm not. My identity was I was a clinical psychologist. My identity now is I'm a CEO of a business who is also a clinical psychologist. I have this overarching view of the business and what is important.
Speaker 2:But there's also been something around my personal development of recognising that God has given me a mission and that actually I need to communicate that mission to everybody out there and if I'm not doing that, then I'm not serving. And so actually it's about overcoming those fears about what other people are saying versus actually no, this is my mission, this is what I'm called to do, this is the people I'm called to serve. And, yes, I might have fear that people are going to say negative things or think negative things about me. However, there's an awful lot of other people who will be grateful for and need that voice on social media, need that voice in my new podcast, need that voice through the training, through the courses, through the challenges. But that's taken an awful lot of work on an almost daily basis. I probably would have done it quicker if I hadn't made sure it was on a daily basis I probably would have done it quicker if I hadn't made sure it was on a daily basis of actually really visualizing who I'm becoming, turning up as the person I'm becoming, almost like stripping off layers upon layers of my identity to form the new identity, I guess, of who I actually am becoming, and stepping forward and thinking, right, okay, if I'm going to be this is my vision that I believe has been given me of what my mission will look like, of supporting people.
Speaker 2:Well, if I was fully in that, doing that now, a hundred percent, who would I have to be today? Who would I have to? How would I show up and sort of visualizing that and then showing up like that, yes, is that what makes the difference? It's not just visualizing, it's actually showing up like that. So it's actually, you know, thinking in that mindset, not just all the mindset. So it's expanding that mindset and um. So it's been moving up and up and up through um and I've done that through various ways. There's been lots of reading, lots of mindset supervision with yourself, um, lots of listening to other people, um, thinking about podcasts I'm listening to, thinking about what I'm doing. I've done some own personal development. I know I did some personal development with Adam and some of the things that he does and that was a wonderful journey and blocked some things for me and I've yeah, it's just moving up and moving up, storing that I am staying grounded in who God wants me to be.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, absolutely. You know, like having the community around you, the support around you, your own ability to be like actually the work's not just done when we meet for supervision on a Wednesday or business strategy on a Monday, whatever it is like the work's happening ongoingly, right to help me elevate in the precurs person I'm becoming, is so important. I think one of the things that some people realize and some people don't when they come into the business academy is the impact of transformation it has on themselves. They come in, they, they come in potentially recognizing that, okay, like, we're going to learn business. How do I do a website? How do I do a marketing funnel? You know how do I get my audience and all of that stuff and you learn that stuff right.
Speaker 1:It wasn't just, you know, the, the mindset piece that grew the, the audience, to 950 plus and growing, and that's just one, one audience we're talking of here. But it was. But the change within yourself has to happen and my commitment and my knowing of my path when I started the business academy it had to be in a way that helped people holistically change themselves, their lives so they can birth the business right, so they can even hold, have capacity to hold the vision that they're gifted as well.
Speaker 1:So I love that you shared that and you know, on that path um and like what's it been like learning, like the technical pieces, right, like so, like I alluded to, is like you, the 950 plus community, the people you've served through your challenges, the people you've served on Instagram, like your clients, all of that right. It's yes, there's the identity piece, but then there was you actually learning and implementing some stuff, right. I know you know paid paid advertising. Now you have a website, now you have hired staff right on this journey, like all of this stuff, right. Practical support what was that like? Gaining that in the business academy or what. What's it been like learning that as well for you, right, as somebody that's come from a job and then now see a business?
Speaker 2:well, there's been pluses and there's been negatives. So, actually, once I hired staff and I would say, right, I'd like to do this, we need to write out this email, get this formatted to send out, and it would be done within two hours as opposed to two weeks, which was more like the NHS type scales I was like, oh my word, things are done. This is scary. Um, I have still got my macbook, which is on.
Speaker 2:Um, there have been many times when it almost went out of the window because I, you know, tech side can be really difficult. It can be, let's. Let's face it, I'm I'm not a computer person as such. However, there is so much help out there, um, a in the academy, b through the. You've got your business program, which has been really helpful.
Speaker 2:Um, but just generally, you know, help, people want to help you to work things through, whether that be zoom, whether that be facebook.
Speaker 2:You know there are people there to to help businesses, to help young businesses to thrive. Um, and I I have loved giving a lot of that to my assistants, um, and to sort of like go, sort that problem out please, although I have had to very much and and I know this is something you've taught and I do totally agree with it. It's useful to understand every aspect of the business, know every aspect, to know how to put that Facebook um add on, to know how to change the website page, um, I, you know I I can't create the level of social media posts that my VA does, my virtual assistant does. She does it amazingly. But I will still record my own content. I'll still, you know. So it's bits that she can do, but that's also part of that CEO mindset of actually, this is what I'm good at. I'm not going to spend a lot of money and time, or I'm not going to spend a lot of time which is money on doing something that somebody else could do a lot quicker.
Speaker 1:Exactly Absolutely, on doing something that somebody else could do a lot quicker.
Speaker 2:Exactly, absolutely, and that's good. That's also that mindset comes through in all aspects. So why should I be mowing my lawns? I have somebody come around to mow my lawns because that saves me a bit of time, which either gives me quality time with my kids or more time in my business. Yeah, absolutely, and the same with the cleaner and things like that that you can just actually sort of think about. How can I be supported to do this mission?
Speaker 1:so, yeah, for sure, and you know, even if I think about like hiring, when you know, because I know you hired on the back end of like the training that I done on how to hire A plus players, and you have an exceptional virtual assistant, right, and I think there are things that, strategically, you get to be able to learn to be able to shorten the gap right in terms of instead of going out and hiring and having all of the pain that can come with it if you have somebody come in and they're not the right fit, and then you kind of start to think why can't I get the right person right and um to be able to impart those strategic parts to you and those in the academies?
Speaker 1:Is is such a delight. And even things like the um, like running um, facebook ads, instagram ads right, hannah, you just recently put on an, an ad for your you know, one of your trainings that you're sharing and being able to get more and more people lives impacted because they can sign up for a training while you might be sleeping or playing with your children or in a meeting or doing something like this. They're able to get that information that nuggets um from you, and yet you've been taught how to do that for very minimal, in terms of when we think of ad spend as well, yeah, and and.
Speaker 2:That process has got quicker exactly as I've got more used to it. It's got quicker, so I know this last campaign I've done um. I think I went from thinking about an idea to creating the webinar, to advertising, to transforming it into evergreen. I think we've done that in a month, yeah it was even quicker than that, I feel you know I think into everything from when you had the idea conception right, yeah, yeah um yeah, so that that's really quickly got through and now I think over 300 people have registered for that.
Speaker 2:Now, at least on a very minimal ad spend, yeah um per person.
Speaker 1:I'm sure it's less than a pound or something like that. Yeah, it is, you know. So there's some real strategic um elements that you've been able to get your head around and I think it's really important. I think, you know, we can all get into something new and think, oh, will I ever be able to do this? Will I ever be able to do business? Will I ever be able to run an ad? Will I ever be able to finish this course or whatever it might be? Will I ever be able to drive? Will I ever be able to whatever? It might be right. But if we all commit to the learning cycle which we have done in our life at some point over and over again, even just learning to walk right, that reminding ourselves that we have that ability, innate ability to learn right and if we really just own that and go through that and I love your honesty of like you know, there were diet days where I would just want you to throw the laptop- out the window and be like done with this, right, you know.
Speaker 1:And then it was like, okay, we can do this, I can commit to learning and I can grow it. Until now it gets, the process gets quicker, it gets easier, it gets refined. But that's a process of development, you know, and I feel like that, as well as when you were able to drop anything, when people are able to drop anything around, like the need to be perfect, um, versus like I'm just gonna get it done, right, you know, um. So there's so much in that, um, what's it been like having community around you, hannah?
Speaker 2:um, what's it been like having community around you, hannah? Oh, I've met the most amazing friends through doing this and I don't I I feel that I certainly could not have done what I've done without that community around me, without being able to sort of message someone and go, oh, I'm struggling today, or, you know, sharing something that's gone, gone well, and celebrating together and celebrating that with each other. Um, and just actually recognizing that you're part of yes, I'm part of HRD consultancy and I'm doing that, but it's also lovely to be part of that network of other people that are making a massive difference in the world as well. Um, and you learn from each other and everybody comes and brings their own nuggets of in. You know insight. Um, you know, I've had people speak over me about what you need to keep going or you need to be doing this. You have people that give you ideas with regard to names of programs or whatever. Um, and just so much encouragement through it. Um, and I think that one of the things that I missed from the NHS when I went back to work in the NHS after losing my husband, I went back for the social side, had the COVID and I lost that social side and so it was like, well, I may as well be a lone practitioner, and that can be really lonely.
Speaker 2:It can be really lonely to not be in a team, to not be, but I am now, you know, being part of the academy. You're part of a team. You might be working on your own different goals, but you're all working together and supporting each other and sharing with each other. That has been really positive. I have had to deal with some mindset around it. You get comparison of well, they're doing that and I've not done that, or some jealousy of like oh, they managed to get. I remember one lady early on in the academy and she was getting the people into her group for the amount that I'm now getting my registrations for.
Speaker 1:And that wasn't I was.
Speaker 2:It was costing me a fortune to try and get people. I hadn't dialed in the ads at that point. I'd not managed to get it and I was. I can remember going. That's not fair. How has she got so many people come in? Each time she'd come on a call, oh, I've had another hundred, or whatever you'd be like. How has she got this many leads? And feeling really frustrated but now feeling, well, I've got there as well. It sort of almost gives you hope that you will get there, yes, that you will be able to dial it in, hope that you will be able to refine it to the point that you can.
Speaker 2:And also remembering that everybody's on a different journey and God is revealing that journey at a different journey, and god is revealing that journey at a different time for each person, and there are all sorts of factors that have to be aligned, um, that need to um, he knows the right timing for things to take off, absolutely right timing for when things are going to happen, and so it's that trust as well, I guess, in that yeah, yeah, absolutely, and I love that you shared that as well, because sometimes people are nervous about community.
Speaker 1:Right, they're nervous about entering a community. They don't necessarily see the value or or the desire of having a team around them, right? They're just like you know, um, I just want to kind of get the business knowledge or the desire of having a team around them. Right, they're just like you know, um, I just want to kind of get the business knowledge or whatever from I can, from Dr Talene and like whatever.
Speaker 1:I'll say hello, maybe, from time to time, but like you know, like, and then they come and they realize like it's the most loving, expansive, supportive community that I've even ever experienced, and I've been in many a mentorships. Right, and it's um. It's important, though, to speak to those stretchiness that does happen when you enter community, because it can be really stretchy seeing people ahead of you or seeing them like, oh, is my idea big enough? Or, you know, is it too small? And all of those pieces that you then get to work through. Right, and that's exactly why we have the, the Wednesday room as well. Right, that mindset room, because it can be stretchy, but it's the power in, like, the growth when you allow yourself to be in those environments is just super powerful. So I love that you spoke to that as well. Um, you know, hindsight has a remarkable thing, and you've dropped many nuggets through this today, but what if there was one thing you could tell your day one self? What would that be?
Speaker 2:Oh gosh, what would that be? Keep at it Definitely keep at it that this is going to be a journey. It won't all click into place straight away, but you will get there. I'm glad that I didn't know on day one what I know now, and I'm glad that I didn't know on day one what I know now because I think I would have been.
Speaker 2:The vision now is far greater than it was back on day one. What I've achieved now is far greater than what I thought in day one. So I think that would have absolutely overwhelmed me back then, think that would have absolutely overwhelmed me back then. But that just trust that process and just keep going step by step, step by step, just take one step at a time. Same with anything, whether it's learning the tech, whether it's moving something forward on your self-development it's just step by step, little, little improvement. Each day, each day, each week, little improvement. I love the book um atomic habits oh yeah yeah, one percent improvement every day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, improvement, one percent improvement. And just how can I improve everything? Um, whether that be my personal development, how can I you know, my mindset, my visualization, how can I improve the program, how can I improve this advert, how can I improve this business process? Just everything every day love, love, love.
Speaker 1:Absolutely right that one percent piece, super important. I I love that right. And when you think of your bigger overall vision, which continues to unfold right as we know, yeah, but what with what you know right now? What are you?
Speaker 2:most excited. I am most excited, I guess, that eventually to have those homes, to have the um the. The concept is that through the profits from the business, I will invest that into property for individuals with intellectual disabilities, with neurodivergence, so that it can be properly high quality, good um accommodation for them, for them to be able to live and for them to have, and so it'd be properly designed for them and carers or support workers. That it will and that's what I'm really looking forward to that day when that first person moves in and meeting that person and seeing that person move into their property and they're knowing their love for the fact that they've got their own home now and being a good landlord and someone who will treat them with respect and understand them, understand their difficulties or their challenges and understand what they need um going forward and being that good landlord for them um, so that you know that that's what I'm really looking forward to I'm so happy you shared that and you put that out there.
Speaker 1:You know, and everyone can hold that vision as well, with Hannah, I'm sure as well. Right, what an unfolding. And you know we're getting ready to to wrap up with this. But before you, you know, and I say goodbye with with this interview, I would love for you to share, like, how can people learn more about you and if they could be served by your work? Right, like, if there are people that hear this and you know, like we said, you know how can they get in touch? Right, maybe they can support the vision in some way, maybe they are somebody that is impacted in their life and they're like, I need help with this, I need to get hold of you. What's the best way for them to find you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so my website is wwwhrdconsultancycouk dot co. Dot. Uk, um, and there's a contact you page on there, um or um. You can find me on socials. It's hrd consultancy. I'm on instagram, facebook, um, tiktok, linkedin. I'm there, she's findable. She's findable and um know I'd be really willing to speak with anybody who needs some support with that. I also have my own podcast, now called Thriveability, with new podcasts out every Tuesday at one o'clock, and that's available on most platforms that you would get your podcast from, but you can also access it via my website, thank you so much for sharing.
Speaker 1:We will also put notes to that as well, so people can also find you when we, when we share this as well. This has been so beautiful, hannah, so, so, so beautiful. Thank you very much for having me. You are welcome, right, and I hope it's an inspiration to those of you that listen to this that you don't need a big audience, a fancy funnel or all the answers to even get started, right, um? I think a lot of what Hannah's spoken to here is about courage to believe. Yeah, um, and she's just really able to demonstrate what it really looks like to just continue to take that path. It's one step at a time, even when the fear might be there, even when it's scary, right there as well. So, thank you so much, hannah, really appreciate it all, right.