5 Percent Nation Of Gods and Earths : Relationships, Self-Identity, and Cultural Expressions

Embrace the wisdom of God the Original as he guides us through an enlightening exploration of the Five Percent Nation's profound perspectives on relationships, self-identity, and cultural expression. Discover the compelling reasons why the black man is revered as God and the black woman as Earth, steering clear of goddess teachings and focusing instead on the empowering and personalized dynamics that shape partnerships and marriage in the community. With a thoughtful look into the practicalities of modern coupling, from insurance to estate planning, we ensure that practical life considerations are not left by the wayside in our pursuit of spiritual alignment and being 'equally yoked.'

This episode also elegantly unpacks the cultural tapestry of dress and presentation. Learn why covering three-fourths is not just a matter of modesty for women but a profound symbol of respect and protection, akin to the Earth itself. For men, the focus is on mental attraction above the physical, a call for dignity and respect that resonates throughout the community. As we delve into the intricacies of Supreme Mathematics and the 120 lessons, God the Original illuminates their role as a cornerstone of self-realization and the proper embodiment of the Nation's philosophies—knowledge that each member is encouraged to internalize before representing the Nation's flag.

In our final moments together, we celebrate the rich cultural heritage and originality within the community, while also acknowledging the shift towards healthier living through practices like veganism. But perhaps most importantly, we underscore the deep reverence for women within the Five Percent Nation, examining how men interact with and honor the 'Earths' in their lives. This episode is not just a lesson but an experience—a chance to immerse yourself in the world of the Five Percent Nation and emerge with a renewed understanding of their powerful and transformative principles.

Chapters

• 0:01 5% Nation Relationships and Teachings
• 13:39 The Significance of Herb's Clothing
• 27:04 Supreme Mathematics in 5% Nation
• 43:41 Exploring Originality and Cultural Heritage
• 50:18 Love, Relationships, and Earth Appreciation
• 54:43 Interaction With Women in the Culture

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:01

What's going on?

Speaker 2: 0:02

everybody is Ron Brown LMT, the people's fitness professional, alongside my co-host Mikey Fever, and this is a New Yorker's perspective. We got the God the original back with us today.

Speaker 1: 0:20

Peace to.

Speaker 2: 0:21

God.

Speaker 1: 0:23

Peace to the people of the universe.

Speaker 2: 0:25

Peace to the God, peace to the God. So, on this day of born, we're going to build on a few things. We got some questions for you. First off, how are you doing today, god?

Speaker 1: 0:40

Peace out. Today's Mathematica is born, which is to be born to existence. Born is also to be complete. And I'm feeling great. I'm feeling great, you know, it's good, as can be considering my day. I started six in the morning, five, six in the morning, and it's continuously, continuously, and I'm still up. But other than that, I'm feeling good. I hope your brother's feeling good too.

Speaker 3: 1:02

Feeling good. Thanks, man Appreciate that.

Speaker 2: 1:05

I just finished training. I'm like depleted of food right now, but I get some God Jew after this. Speaking of the jewels, people say God degree. I learned that it was God Jew because God, the God Jew, comes from the 12 Jews.

Speaker 1: 1:28

Right, right. Oh, we say you know, I come from this era where I'm going to get some God degree. You know you're going to get some food, and that's basically it. You know, that was the language, that's how we spoke, and I still speak like that. I'm going to get some God degree, gotcha.

Speaker 2: 1:48

That's peace. That's peace right there. All right, I want to go with the knowledge question, or the first question. Why did a law teach the black men as God and the black woman is the earth, and why don't we advocate the goddess teachings?

Speaker 1: 2:07

Well, as far as the goddess teachings go, we're not dealing with Greek and Romanology. We did it with a long word manifest reality. You know, in the solar system and non planets, eight of them have Roman and Greek gods named, except the earth. You know, because the earth is the unique planet, it's a one of kind planet and the black women in the 5% nation are unique women. They're one of a kind women and what makes them unique is that they sincerely love a lot of mathematics and that separates them from the other women on the planet and all the schools of thought. They sincerely love a lot of mathematics and they live it out. You know, personally, I would have, I would rather have an earth built on the earth, because who better to speak about the earth than the earth?

Speaker 2: 3:01

right.

Speaker 1: 3:01

You know. But as far as a law teaching, the black man is God. You know he saw the reality of the lessons that the honorable, larger Mohammed was given out to the Muslims at that time. You know the first green one attended who was the visual man. Visual man, asian black man, maker of the only clean planet earth for the civilization, the God of the universe. And you know, like you know, he saw the reality in that you know black, I'm the black man, I'm the God of the universe. So you know this will be teaching to the 5% is last piece.

Speaker 3: 3:39

right there I have a question for you. What are the usual relationship customs in the 5% nation? And do 5% is get married?

Speaker 1: 3:48

Well, we don't have no customs relationship customs, you know, basically, either God, you, you out in the universe, meet a young lady. She don't have knowledge itself. You know your today's math mag is born. You know you bring that into existence, give her the knowledge herself and you teach her and you make up the owner. People plan to earth. She becomes your earth. You know we don't have no dating customs, none of that. You know. You meet his sister, you teach her and she revolves around you. She becomes your earth. You know.

Speaker 1: 4:27

As far as marriage, you know back in the 60s a lot taught that not to get married under the government. You know, and that's all we from what he said about that, that's all we learn. You never got a full explanation as to why not to get go on, not to get married under the government. But in this day and time you know that was 50 years ago in this day and time you might have to get married for business purposes. You know insurance. You know insurance purposes.

Speaker 1: 5:05

And when people go, you know you get sick. You know you get your spouse gets sick, or you get sick and you go to the hospital. The insurance is going to cover. You know the cost of medical is very high. So, you know, in order to get the insurance coverage, you may have to be married to a woman. I don't know if you want to get the insurance coverage and if something happens to you as a man and you return to the essence, and you know you don't want nobody fighting over what you leave over, so it automatically goes to your woman, you know, and all your children. But that's what I'm saying from this thing. You may have to do for business purposes, but as far as a lot taught that we shouldn't get married under government, you know he said the best marriage, universal shambles are wrote in the sentimental publication that the best marriage is marriage of the minds, and two minds become one for one common goal, which is to live out.

Speaker 3: 5:57

Mathematics, that's right, that's a fact that's got to be taken consideration.

Speaker 1: 6:03

Yes.

Speaker 3: 6:04

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1: 6:06

Yeah, you have to be equally yoked.

Speaker 2: 6:09

And I was just talking about that, god. I want to go more into relationships a little bit, because we all have experiences with relationships and I was talking to brothers and you know, and sisters about you know, the importance of being equally yoked. A lot of the time we meet sisters who don't have the knowledge of themselves and it's harder to teach them at times yes and now and a lot of the time the sisters gravitate to you because of your magnetic light. You teach them. They kind of like reflect your light and then if, when the relationships, the relationship doesn't work out, they no longer reflect that light. They're like on their own.

Speaker 2: 7:02

And you know, if you have children, then you have a problem. Now you have more problems.

Speaker 1: 7:06

Right. Well, that's because they wasn't in the nation for themselves. They was in the nation for you, Right? And you know they didn't come on their own to get the knowledge for themselves, for themselves. They got it because it was in relationship with you, and when the relationship went the other way, it went the other way. You know, a lot of the sisters go back to the church, go back to the mosque or they go back to the streets. You know, our lessons tell us a savage is one who lost the knowledge of himself and never beats light. And when they lose the knowledge of himself, they go all the way left. Brothers and sisters, they go all the way left. But that happens when a sister, she's not here for the nation, she's here for you, and that's what happens sometimes.

Speaker 2: 7:53

Right. So now, in this climate that we live in now, in 2024, I would assume well, for me anyway, years would be. It's wonderful even harder to have, especially when you have knowledge of yourself, because the women nowadays or all, not only women, but we all have like more distractions with social media and we have access to more, more corruption, if you will right. So it makes it hard for us to maintain Relationships nowadays. So I mean, I don't know if you have any suggestions, you know.

Speaker 1: 8:39

I'll be telling my sons I'm glad I'm not your agents in this day and time. You know, I'm glad I'm not out there looking for a woman in this day and time Because the women now have the young women. They have options. They have too many options, you know. So, as far as trying to be dedicated to one man, you know that's going to be hard to come by. You know, once again in the Bible says the virtuous woman is hard to find. You know, because the person's woman is in the house. She's not gonna be running the streets. So you're not gonna find her because she's already locked down with somebody that snatched up both streets and stuff. But, um, you know, I'm quality knowledge, I'm 61. So I'm not out there looking for a woman and I'm not out there on the streets to To see what the flavor of the women is. I see from social media and I'm like man, I'm glad I'm not the streets, I'm glad I'm not young, I'm all. And then another issue would be young. Looking for women is you don't know who the woman, who's not, because a lot of the Transgenders, transformers, they look like women, you know, they look like women and stuff.

Speaker 1: 9:52

But the solution, you know, a Young brother with knowledge itself. You know, aren't too many brothers? Now the self, that's a problem too. Ultimately, young girls, now the self to give the young sisters knowledge Stuff, but solution is knowledge itself. That's always been the best solution and and this thing time is still the best solution. They nothing change. You know, now the self. The best solution, once again, unless in the same wise, in the devil's cell. The best part of planet earth, the best part of the planet earth is the woman, is our mind, not her vagina. You know, and Devil said on her mind, she won't be living our delusion. You know, if you give her the knowledge you guard, she won't be building positive.

Speaker 3: 10:36

That's peace right there? You're not. You know, before you go any further, your rhyme. Give him a round of applause for that one. Right there, man, what he just dropped. Some realness right there. Now for rug what he said. Cuz knowledge yourself, it goes a long way, cuz you know what's. You know what you're gonna fall into. Nowadays, both men and women, you know right, people are mental issues. You know they could have drug issues. They could be scorned from their past.

Speaker 1: 11:10

Yeah, men, other men they were good women Did wrong and they went in other direction. That's a lot issue, you know, and anybody comes with baggage.

Speaker 3: 11:23

Exactly.

Speaker 1: 11:25

Thing too. Even we come with.

Speaker 3: 11:29

Yeah, the social media thing too, as you said. Like you go on there like nothing is even some sacred anymore. It's just like it's all out. They just like damn, like.

Speaker 1: 11:37

I saw a video with some sisters. They were accidentally you ever cheat on your man. They was like, yeah, what were the big smile? Yeah, I cheated on my man, I had sex with this father, I had sex with the brother and it was all young women, young sisters.

Speaker 2: 11:58

You know, there's too many options for them now you know so many options for them.

Speaker 2: 12:04

That's why I think this is my solution. Now. This is, oh my, this is my perspective. New York is perspective, I Think, the only way for men, younger dudes you got to get chiseled. You can't only have knowledge yourself. It's not enough Because it's too many options, but knowledge itself is number one for sure. All right, um, knowledge itself and wisdom to your wisdom got to be sharp. Why, I was getting ready to say that, so you're why I was getting it. So your wise words, your wise words, got to be like water flowing, mm-hmm, you know saying, and also Money. I was gonna say money, and you got to have a chisel body man yeah, yes, got to have a mental and the mental

Speaker 1: 12:56

and the physical Is.

Speaker 3: 12:59

Sister you run into. She might be like, oh, you got to fly me out. Yeah, she, and not with the dinner dates. Like, yeah, that's all cool and all that, but you fly me out.

Speaker 1: 13:08

Yeah, and this day and time, go on a dinner date. It's not enough. You know, you got. You got to take it to another level, especially what you do. You have a certain age, you and your free side for years, understanding side for years. You know going to the movies is just not enough. You know, unless that's what the system one, you find a sister like that as red, yeah, just going to the movies and having a date or dinner date, it may not be enough, that's for that D Indeed.

Speaker 2: 13:37

So I want to go into the next question. Why are herbs required to wear three fourths of cloth?

Speaker 1: 13:44

Well, the earth, and the father said nation. They cover themselves to be false. That symbolizes the earth. The actual earth that we live on is to be false. Or water, that's 75% water and 25% land. So they expose 25% of their skin and the 75% is covered and that's the refinement that waters are refinement. So they cover themselves. 75% of the bodies covered. It should only be revealed to their man in their home. So that's why the earth where to be false. And also three, fourth, is understanding the culture. You know it's one thing to dress the culture, because you got to have understanding of the culture.

Speaker 2: 14:30

Right, right, yeah. So when is that? Now, this is this is kind of like off the cuff a little bit, but when is when is that that? When can can? Can the earth be flexible like you know? Can the earth's, you know, at some points Not being three fourths in the public, or is this just three fourths? Is like that's just what you're supposed to wear, that's how, that's how you're supposed to.

Speaker 1: 14:57

Well, that's enough to the world. That's the standard dress for dress for earth. But it depends on her god. It depends on her. God, you know, make an owner. I'm not saying she's, he's the owner of her, but, um, she revolved around him. It's up to him. If he, if he allows her to wear pants, stuff like that, then that's on them. That's that's on them. I have nothing doing another man's earth.

Speaker 2: 15:28

But what about? What if? What if the earth doesn't have a man? Well then she has to.

Speaker 1: 15:34

Well, she has to rotate on her own axis and be the earth in three, fours at all time.

Speaker 3: 15:41

Beautiful, huh, that's me, that's me sharp. Now it's what he says because you know what the whole dress code thing it. She could be seeking validation from the outside, compliments and, depending on whether them you know, whether the brother is it has knowledge of itself or not, if you walk on the streets with her, it could also bring wrong intentions Right, because therefore he has to go out there and defend her honor somebody. You out there say something disrespectful. You know a man. His pride is gonna be like hold up Yo what you doing, then something violence turns out Right. Or it could also attract um creeps and perverts out there that may want to do harm to her, especially in this society, and this is right now is a lot of perverted individuals and stuff like that.

Speaker 1: 16:25

And um, a sister wearing something provocative, she can get attacked. Her brother might want to touch her, say derogatory, derogatory things to her and stuff. And like, you know, when we Tell a woman that she shouldn't dress like this or like that, we're not trying to control her. That's what our sisters say. I don't want me control. We're not trying to control you, we're trying to protect you. You know, protect you from this world. The world is not ready to see you walk down the streets.

Speaker 1: 16:50

The short, short song, you know, and um, and you want to protect yourself. You want to and you want to cover yourself up as a woman. You know you don't want a man to be attracted to your physical, you want them attracted to your mental. You know, once again, that's your best part, the best part of the earth is mine, you know. So you want to make me trackers here to your mental. Your character is who you are and how you carry yourself, how you respect yourself. You know, um, but if you got to use your physical to attract the man, it's not gonna, it's not gonna last.

Speaker 3: 17:22

Track the wrong type. So I have a. I have, so I have a question. The brother runs a party. A good example right now. What does the crown with the tassel symbolizes Like?

Speaker 2: 17:34

for god's sake. Well, before you get to that I don't mean to cut you off, I don't mean to cut your wisdom Before we get to the crown. I have to ask this question because we, we're still. We're still dealing with, you know, three-fourths of cloth. Now I wanted to ask Our gods. Our gods allowed to wear what they want. Can they walk around with this shirt off?

Speaker 1: 18:01

No, I have a story. It was 1986. It was a very hot day. I was, uh, I Was out in, I was 22, 23, something like that, and I was riding a bike. I had a shirt on. It's some older gods coming down. They were selling balloons and the crowds with all the balloons there's about three of them it gets coming to my, my block. They had flags on. I rolled up to them I like peace, god, peace, god. They like peace, god was your name. And I told him my name and one of them said way to sure that God. I Says in my back pocket. He said put your damn shirt on right now, you know. And I put my shirt on. So that's, you know. You know, because I'm, you know, I'm right around no shirt. That's uh, like I'm a savage somewhere, you know.

Speaker 1: 18:49

But now we're not gonna just anywhere. We can, we want to carry ourself. Look in the shop at all times and stuff, you know. You know, if you look at a law, you know, you know, in the 60s everybody wore suits, ties, hats, lot of the elder gods and some the head of Athena. They always wore hats, leathers, shoes, um, you know, shirts, slacks, stuff like that.

Speaker 1: 19:16

But the answer that we just can't dress any way. We want to. You know, we want to carry yourself in a civilized manner. He won't dress yourself. Civilized manner. I want to keep yourself sharp at all, looking sharp at all times. You know, because when the people, when you say you God, when you say we don't, all you, the all I see her, all eyes are seeing you and if you, when you say you God, you definitely have the world looking at you and you got to come to looking good because you want somebody to be Come into this and you were bummed and they're gonna be like. You know, am I gonna look like you if I come over there? You know I won't look like that, you know. So you want to keep yourself sharp and, like I said before, one of the things that tried me to the gods and I was young, they always stayed fly. It was fly. Leather coats, kangos, british Walkers, deeders, jewelry, it was always fly stuff. You know. So we want to keep myself looking good at all times.

Speaker 3: 20:10

That's a fact. As they say, clean this next to godliness.

Speaker 2: 20:19

So going going into the alright, go ahead, go ahead, mike.

Speaker 3: 20:24

Yeah, what does the crown with the tassel symbolizes when a God wears that?

Speaker 1: 20:28

or the crown. You know, um, the crown. When I was young I never got a Direct signs on the crown. All I know is and I'm probably not a lot of brothers for the same way the crown just fly you, you, you mess it up with your clothes that you were wearing, with your poems, with your deities. You mess it up with your crown, with your clothes that you were wearing and stuff. But, um, I've learned, you know, I thought the years I've learned. Yeah, you know that the crown, you know, and a piece of God came out, you know, you wanted brothers that gave me the signs of the crown, you know.

Speaker 1: 21:05

You know, first of all, king, where's the crown? If you know yourself to be the king of your kingdom, you gonna walk around with a crowd, you know, and the crown could be your mind, you know. But the, you know, and keep in mind that only the, the gods, where crowned, you know, where cool fees wasn't, where. Proof is, we wear crowns and the top part represents the sun. It represents the sun, you know, and the tassel at the bottom of the ball is a ball, that's. That represents the earth and the tassel represents the speed. It was. The earth is traveling 1037 and one third miles around the Sun, you know that was the sign, that was manifested to me and once again piece of God came out.

Speaker 1: 21:52

Give me that signs and stuff no that's deep, that's maybe other signs out there the crown. That's the size I got.

Speaker 2: 22:00

Yeah, that's that's the science I got from about the crown as well. Okay.

Speaker 1: 22:04

Yeah. So we all know that's. You know that's knowledge. Knowledge, that's a good knowledge letter. It's letter K, king of King. So when you know yourself to be the king of your kingdom, you walk around with a crown in your head.

Speaker 2: 22:22

That's deep right there. Peace, that's peace Now. Now going to the power question what's the difference between a parliament and a rally?

Speaker 1: 22:34

Well, when I got the knowledge I was going back. When I got the knowledge, I Never heard of a parliament, it was always a rally. You go into the rally, go into the rally, go into the rally. It was a lap, the rally tomorrow. And back then the rally was mandatory. You know, if you didn't make it to a rally you had a lot of questions to answer. If you, knocking on your door, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, why come to the rally? You know. But um, yes, later started. You know it's parliament, parliament, parliament, no Parliament.

Speaker 1: 23:09

The rally have two different definitions in our nation a rally, the parliament, the same thing, you know. But a parliament is where in a nation, a group of leaders come together to to set down laws, rules and regulations for that nation. You know, a rally, you go to a rally, for a group of people come together to protest some kind of injustice, you know you have rallies for police brutality, for abortion rights and things that nature. So the meanings have two different meanings. But in the five percent nation rally, the palm is what is the same.

Speaker 2: 23:46

All right, I learned. I learned something different. I learned that a Parliament is is where the guards and herbs come and talk more about nation business.

Speaker 1: 23:59

Right, right, I said you know um People coming together to set down laws, rules and regulations. That you know it's always a nation business.

Speaker 2: 24:08

Yes, but, but, from what I learned, a rally isn't, is it? That's that that doesn't happen in a rally. Like like, like, like like. For instance, parliaments, that happen, you know, at the end of every month. That last Sunday, a month, Right and then.

Speaker 2: 24:26

But then there are parliaments that or their routes, rallies or parliaments that happen in a summertime and Medina right. So I've been to a rally in Medina before but I don't remember a nation business spoken about then, but that was a while back so I don't know well the rallies in Medina. They talk about nation business the same way they would in a parliament in Mecca.

Speaker 1: 24:55

Right, they are on the rallies in Medina. It's outdoors. Yeah, people are scared about having their own little side-side first and things like nature. He having June, july and August Now, and July, july rally in Medina is children's day. That's a children's day problem. You're bringing children, they give out shirts as food, there's games, there's toys and at a children's day Nobody's allowed to sell anything. You know, everything is free.

Speaker 1: 25:25

The August Parliament, the law you guard parliament. That's the University of Shangara. That's the last Parliament of the summer. That's a bill destroyed part of the Parliament and that part's a lot of building. That part of building and that part, you see a lot of elders. So University of Shangara had a lot of love. A lot of elders had a lot of love for and, as we all do, you know, and I was fortunate to meet him, you know, when I first got knowledge of self and stuff, you know, and myself and the gods that was with me when we met him, we used to be together. He was an all I Sam God. He designed the flag, you know. You know that's pretty sweet that.

Speaker 3: 26:06

So I have a question for you what is the history and science behind a user, behind the universal flag, and how does one earn, you know, did the universal flag?

Speaker 1: 26:17

Well, the history behind the universal flag it was once again, was designed by universal sham God a lot, one of the first ones in Medina. From what I read what he wrote about, universal flag, he loved just to know the science of the universe and things that nature and you know to draw, and the flag was designed in 1966. He took it to Matterwan to show to a lot but the authorities were left out of the law. So when the law came home in 1967 that's when, according to what he wrote, a lot sort of flag he took one look at it. He said that's it, that's how you diverse a flag like there. You know now, in order way the verse of flag.

Speaker 1: 27:04

In this day and time, and when I got knowledge, you have to know 120 lessons. You have to know 120 lessons. You know, you have to know 120 lessons. When I law was here, I don't think you have to know, you have no 20 lessons, because when I read the law was given out flags. You know, mayor Lindsey had a flag, or Barry Goddow had a flag, politicians that were Helping the nation out. He gave those brothers flags and stuff. But at this day and time, you know, you must know 120 in order to wear the flag. And who?

Speaker 2: 27:45

Yeah, go yeah. So I wanted to ask who implemented that, that that requirement? Do you know?

Speaker 1: 27:54

I don't know when I came in, that's how it was, the, that's how I was and stuff you know. But you also have to know the flag too.

Speaker 2: 28:03

Yeah, I was gonna say that too.

Speaker 1: 28:04

That's that I have to know the flag. You know what the points mean, the colors on the points to seven, the star, the moon, the white background. You have to know all of that. You know that brothers one Knowledge itself. If you want to know the science of the flag, you know, just reach out to any guard in your area and you know me, proceed. In order for you to get the science of the flag, you know you have to be a five percent. I just want to put out there so everybody is walking around with the size of the flag. Call myself a five percent, you know oh.

Speaker 2: 28:45

I was getting ready to. I was getting ready to explain how I see the flag, but I'm not gonna do that thing.

Speaker 1: 28:52

Yeah, I only go, I only go by sham God's definition. I've seen the plus degrees on the flag that went into astrology and astronomy and moon and I'm like, okay, I'm doing with sham God.

Speaker 2: 29:04

He's a designer and the maker of the flag, so I'm going what he wrote All right, I mean the the points, the points of the Raise of the Sun that was signified at eight points of awareness. Do you agree?

Speaker 1: 29:21

or disagree. Well, that's not what sham God wrote. All right, they put the tens raised the Sun, you know, shown improving the speed and distance that the truth is track. It will travel throughout the universe, you know. But, um, some people, you know, drew it up as representing the excessive lessons. Yeah, but when he drew that flag they were an excessive lessons, so it can't be represent a sense of lesson.

Speaker 2: 29:49

Ah, that makes sense though.

Speaker 1: 29:53

But when he wrote the represent to raise it a son.

Speaker 2: 29:59

All right, all right, all right. So let's go into the next question. Is the most important part of the teachers, the supreme mathematics in alphabets, or 120 lessons.

Speaker 1: 30:15

Well, most definitely the foundations, supreme mathematics, supreme mathematics, the key to unlock all doors. 120 without supreme mathematics would just be most of the lessons. Mathematics makes those lessons walking talk, you know. And we, before we even get the 120, mathematics tell us who God is. You know. So before you get to one 20, math. Math sounds what God is, but mathematics is the key to unlock all doors in the universe. Math magazine law and order of the universe. So the most important part, you know, because mathematics will give you supreme realization itself.

Speaker 3: 31:03

That's a fact, that is a scene.

Speaker 2: 31:07

That is a fact. So, um, mike, you were in to say something, I'm gonna go after what you, whatever you got, I have to go after you now I'm saying a mathematics.

Speaker 3: 31:16

I see you know, brothers, you can resolve a lot of light situations with that. As you say, come to realization with certain things. Add and subtracting you understand the do's into the one. You know, the one number, the one key right?

Speaker 1: 31:29

Oh well, yeah, the controversy right now about that, yeah.

Speaker 3: 31:33

I, I get, yeah, but you know um it's like you know you're taking to me. It's taking all aspects to find that one answer. So it's like I get. We say it's controversial, but To me.

Speaker 1: 31:47

You know controversy, you know mathematics coastal. Now to born back. So we go back to the foundation. There are no two whole numbers in mathematics. You know it doesn't go from from one to nine. Now, so born that you know. Let me go back.

Speaker 3: 32:05

Compound numbers. But you know, as you said, this is leaving that.

Speaker 1: 32:09

I mean, you know, the brothers that don't want to say it as the provocative Wishes with them. No, what's so ever?

Speaker 2: 32:18

Exactly. Well, for me is real simple. Simply put, the mathematics is good, orderly direction as it is.

Speaker 3: 32:41

Because you know, peter, or late mathematics.

Speaker 1: 32:43

But they know what or not? Because before you cross the sheet you do the knowledge. You look, listen and observe. You know. That's the first thing, that's how, that's why knowledge is first. That's the first thing you do before.

Speaker 2: 32:56

Yeah if you're gonna do.

Speaker 1: 32:59

Have a knowledge what you cook, how to cook.

Speaker 3: 33:04

Yo, I want to add on to that too. There's this movie. It just came out, it's on Amazon, the book of Clarence yes, it's like Jay-Z, I think it's been on, like you know, the whole 13 disciple, whatever. Yeah, and it's a part of the movie. Well, he kept saying knowledge First. They'll, like you know, falling, kept saying knowledge is everything. Once you have knowledge can let them restrain you back. There's no oppressors, nothing.

Speaker 1: 33:27

I gotta do knowledge to that myself you. I saw the trailer.

Speaker 3: 33:34

Drop a lot, of, a lot of my whole.

Speaker 2: 33:36

this sounds so familiar, yeah well, I'm gonna tell you this. This is why Another reason why I want to do this podcast Because people think they understand the teachings but they really don't and they make mistakes that the 5% nation really don't like. For instance, colin, I don't know what that film is about, but the first thing I heard was Clarence. Now, when I heard that, I said, oh no, if this movie is about the 5% nation or has some kind of similarities, to maybe show respect to the nation, that's, the last thing you want to do is call the father a law, clarence, right.

Speaker 3: 34:21

Yo I, what was the father's mother's name?

Speaker 1: 34:27

Mary.

Speaker 3: 34:28

Mary, that's my name All right in the movie. All right, yeah, it's just watching. Not that you're saying that in the movies oh, my name not a marriage, her name's not Mary, it's a Mina. But they say why? Why he became a 13th disciple. Just watch it. Then you, what we talk about right now. You're gonna see this, you can see what I'm talking about. You're gonna say similarities, yeah, you can see the similarities. Like, oh, he flipped it, yeah, I got doing.

Speaker 1: 34:57

The others too, I got doing. I thought a trailer it's.

Speaker 3: 35:00

You said I don't ruin it for the people, but he's a dude that came from poverty. God DC's in the movie with him, the crisis using a, moving with him, and he sees his brothers following the Christ. Whatever Then case maybe, but easily he's like he's a street. He's a street dough In that time and he picked up the lessons and it's deep. Watch it, bro. It's like okay, I see what. I see what's going on. Jays not playing. Oh, jamie's behind him over here, oh yeah so, yeah, so he.

Speaker 1: 35:31

I saw him on the, on the on the one of the names that popped up. Yeah, I think you probably funded it or something.

Speaker 3: 35:41

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 35:42

I'm definitely gonna do a nice toy. I see brothers on on on social media speaking about it. Yeah, they says a must see. So I'm doing now myself. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 35:56

I see what he's doing, so my educator could deal you a law likes to use this word cross pollinating when it comes to, you know, building on supreme mathematics and 120 combined. Okay, so I'm using that that term for lack of better term. Right, so without cross-pollinating, polo, pollinating supreme mathematics with 120. It's not a lost teachings, correct? What does pollinating mean? Basically, bringing things together, okay.

Speaker 2: 36:35

So the question, any question again as a question again so, without bringing, without cross pollinating, supreme mathematics with 120, it's not a lost teachings. So, basically, we build on supreme mathematics and we take, and then we go from supreme mathematics to the alphabets, to, and then we go and through the one attending, we take it all the way through, whatever the grease you're on, or Go to the meat, which is the one of 40 right.

Speaker 2: 37:11

So he's saying, without going through the proper math, without without without going through, without going through math and One, and in whatever degree it is that day in a one of 40, it's not a law's teaching no cuz it'll just be Muslim lessons.

Speaker 1: 37:32

It'll just be Muslim lessons. You know, if you don't, without the math, it'll just be Muslim lesson. And without the math you want big out the reality with understanding, clay understanding of that lesson without the math. Like I said, without the math to just be Muslim lessons, right exactly, exactly.

Speaker 2: 37:51

So Well, I think that's where people get it misconstrued, because they pick up 120 from the, from the internet, or they're not properly taught and then so they know how they could, they could, they have all this, this information on on cap, but they don't know how to make it come to come to life, right, you know, and they get stuck in in degrees, in 120.

Speaker 1: 38:19

You know. Well, we always say you know Understandings for the 5%. You have some people that have the knowledge but they're not 5% because they don't have the understanding of what a lot taught. You know A lot of people in this day and time. They, they just have knowledge, but they're not 5%. You know, and, like you say, they just have the lessons on cap and and they take lessons on face value. You know you got to kill four devils. They actually think you gotta go and kill four white people. No, you kill the four devils and be jealousy, hate and lust within you. You know. So they don't have the understanding to these lessons, so they walk around with Muslim lessons and they had basically.

Speaker 2: 39:11

So I want to go into but one thing, one, one degree I do take To heart, and literal is the 11th degree in a one, one to 14 I mean.

Speaker 1: 39:24

I heard your words I mean bar, because who am I, what? Yes, my word is modern, bond is lack. I should get my life from our brush out, fed, that's. You know. We used to say once you get past that degree, whatever you say got to be bond, so you don't have to say like word is bond, god no, once you get past that degree because you know, you know because you know you not held accountable for what you don't know.

Speaker 1: 39:46

But once you know you held accountable, and me myself always try to live up to my word. You know, if I, if I say I'm gonna do something, if I can't do it, yo brother, I can't do it, I'll give you a call, I can't do it? No, but uh, if I say I'm gonna do something, I'll do it and I'll give you a call, and Then your word fell, you know. And once your word fell, you're gonna get you sideways, you know. Yeah, like nice word fell before. I can't believe. I can't rock when I can't trust it. Yeah, I always try, I always try.

Speaker 1: 40:23

I was trying to the best of my ability to live up to my word Right.

Speaker 3: 40:33

I want to say what the lessons right? It somehow makes you a scientist. You become a scientist. So how about it? Because you look at, you start looking at things from all different perspectives. Yes, you have different lessons like you know that the green is a um the earth is 23 million square miles of earth used, used by the people, what you mean useful land useful land, and now and I was learning this.

Speaker 3: 41:01

Like you know, the earth will symbolize the women. So you know, that's a 23 chromosomes, you know. You know man, you know the woman and man. I'm like, okay, right, you know, that makes sense, like scientifically you started.

Speaker 1: 41:13

You like Be sitting there and start, right, you know, and it means to say you know that's a 70 degree and 20 million square miles used by the visiting of man. You know God, wisdom and his understanding is useful land. That's you, your woman and your children. That's useful land, because if you remember the Wu Tang Reckon it's your. Yeah, yeah, man, it's your 23. Useful land, it's yours. You know that's a, that's a, that's how we broke it down back then, that God, wisdom and his understanding, that's useful land to build on. You know, meaning you, your babies and your, your children, your babies and your, you, your woman and your babies, that's useful land we could build on.

Speaker 1: 41:59

So that's how we draw the lessons up with mathematics, at least now.

Speaker 3: 42:04

Reckon some of the, some of the, some of the lessons. You could also cross reference historical points. Sometime you look like, yeah, really, really Broadening your perspective, and you know.

Speaker 1: 42:15

Yeah, when you get 120 covers oceanography, geography.

Speaker 3: 42:23

Yeah astronomy.

Speaker 1: 42:25

Yeah, meteorology, you know, covers uh measurements, you know mathematics, genetics. You know arithmetic it covers a whole. 120 covers a whole lot. You know, um elder god once told me look, everything is a 120 and everything that like. Once I heard that everything that happened in my life I was jeweled up to to 120. Oh, something in 120, telling me about this situation I'm in right now.

Speaker 2: 42:57

So yeah, and that's. That's living according to the culture, though.

Speaker 1: 43:02

Exactly, yeah, that's, that's the culture, you know, that's that's that's our teachings.

Speaker 1: 43:07

You know that's our teaching. So we always go back to our teachings, you know, to get us out of situation, you know, or to make sense out of situation, or and we predict our history in advance. You know, we look at, you know, but we're gonna do something. We predict what's gonna happen down the road. Okay, if I do this, this is gonna happen. If I do, this might happen, you know. So we predict our history in advance. So See, that's how we draw these lessons up, you know.

Speaker 2: 43:39

Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir. So how did you get the name be original? I think we went over this. Did we go over this?

Speaker 1: 43:47

Yeah, yeah. Well, like I said, you know, I'm the black scene, you know, and Be used to express original is first, first, you exist. The black scene now, the scene now is always first. So, uh, I'm be original, you know, and that's my character, I'll be original.

Speaker 3: 44:06

Yeah, I mean, he said that in the last episode and I know you, you, you said that you're national, your family from um Honduras. Yeah, have you ever tried to go back to teach them lessons out there?

Speaker 1: 44:16

No, I haven't been. Last time was out there in 1978. I was 15, 15 years old, something like that. You know, um, you know, I started having children and working, yeah, time to really, but, um, I've been tying six years and so, uh, I'm definitely I still have family out there.

Speaker 3: 44:37

And go out there, go dance some salsa, all that good stuff.

Speaker 1: 44:40

They dance out there is called a punta Puna. It is from the uh, the gari for the. I don't know if you're familiar with the gari. For us they are. I heard of them, the indigenous tribes, something like that right, they, uh, they speak a language from African dialect mixed with the carib Indian dialect, because I think a lot of them escaped and went to live in the carib islands, stuff like that.

Speaker 3: 45:04

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 45:05

That's a lot of them. In central, all through central america we start.

Speaker 3: 45:09

I heard of them, sort of the poons I got. I got looking to that because I work with a few people from Honduras before and I used to be like yo. I like to take a look out there, Let me see how it is. Man, I think I believe you guys close the Costa Rica.

Speaker 1: 45:20

Um, um El Salvador, okay, um Belize, which was British Honduras at one time. Yeah, it's Costa Rica, guatemala, rica, agua.

Speaker 3: 45:30

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 45:31

And pan panama.

Speaker 3: 45:33

Yeah, panama, I'm gonna ask because I'm from from flap, which there was a as a bar on bedford where all the panamanians go to michelle's and they heard a few.

Speaker 1: 45:42

You know you're not on the first captain there on on bedford crown heights was notorious for panamanian Crown back in the avenue and stuff like that.

Speaker 3: 45:51

Yeah freaks are having the parade that we having out there.

Speaker 1: 45:54

Yeah they be. Yeah, when I first came to the United States, people people's called me pan panamanian. Panamanian like Never heard on dirt. You know it's like people never heard on dirt or some stuff you know.

Speaker 3: 46:10

But uh yeah, people's come panamanian stuff yeah. Panamanians. They sound like making like cursed up your Ross.

Speaker 1: 46:19

Yeah, yeah, black people in central america. Yeah, they come from the caribbean alans. Yeah you know, when the slave was abolished in the caribbeans, it was allowed to move around, move around. And also a lot of them came when the panama canal was being built, yeah, in the work and stuff, you know. But Honduras is Spanish and Caribbean culture, yeah, so uh you know, when. I when I did eat those foods I eat, the best of foods.

Speaker 3: 46:49

You know, yeah, so I thought he's able to Michelle's a panamanian spot where they all be linked with the Honduran people. They be out there.

Speaker 1: 46:56

Yeah well, Honduras, people don't really. You know they. We go there on Gershwin Park at a Linden Boulevard in Eastern York. Oh okay, Every Sunday back in the eighties and nineties, people on dirt. She's a gather there. They have soccer games, they have all the foods there, all the you know, and I, you know, I used to go there all the time, my mother and my father Speaking of, speaking of foods.

Speaker 2: 47:26

what's your diet? Like you know, you prescribed to you. Subscribe to the vegan diet. Yes, yes, that's my diet.

Speaker 3: 47:37

now, you know he's glowing man Got that glow.

Speaker 1: 47:42

Oh, thank you. You know, my black woman, she, she cooks. You know that's. You know, a lot of times when you hook up with a black woman and y'all have the same diet, the same mind, rather, you know you're not going to be able to eat all the vegetables and everything. You know I can't cook all that vegan stuff. She, she could. She could make eggs that taste and look like eggs from from plants and stuff.

Speaker 2: 48:13

Yeah, I'm, like I'm. It tastes like egg, look like eggs, you know, and stuff, Wait. So how long have you been vegan, and was it your choice to be?

Speaker 1: 48:23

vegan? Did you? Did the nation influence you? You know, we get the dietary law, we get the dietary law, but back then it was like no pork, no pork, no pork. We used to eat steak, you know, tuna, fish and things of that nature.

Speaker 1: 48:37

As we got older and started doing a lot of study and stuff like that, you know, other foods are not good, you know. So I stopped eating red meat and about like 89, 90, I just stopped eating red meat, you know. And about three years ago, when my black woman got together, you know, we were like you know what? We just gonna eliminate all of me and we're just gonna just go go vegan. And it's crazy, because back in the days I used to laugh at vegans. I'm like, oh man, I ain't gonna never be no vegan and stuff like that. You know, and I'm getting older, like I said, I'm equality knowledge, you know, you know. You know you know, as you get older, your health or you gotta take care of yourself. You know, when you're young, your body takes care of itself. As you get older, you have to take care of your body and stuff. You know, and it's a brother by the name of Mel Kessdick.

Speaker 3: 49:38

I don't know if you know Mel.

Speaker 1: 49:40

Kessdick.

Speaker 3: 49:40

Macias Macias, yeah yeah, he's 86 years old, Yo he looks good.

Speaker 1: 49:44

He looks like he's 40.

Speaker 3: 49:47

You know sharp with it too, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 49:49

Yeah, I see you, you know. You know he's eighty-some years old and you know, and I want, I want to look like that when I'm eighty-some years old. You know, I want to be here for the 75th, 75th year of hip hop. Yeah, I made it to the 50th, you know, and 75th year hip hop. I'll be 85. That's please, man, so hopefully I still be around and stuff, you know, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 50:18

So so, uh, you know, it was just basically a health choice. Now you said you've been with your, your, your black woman, now for three years, right, so obviously you don't have no problem pulling them in this day and time. So you got to get, you got to get the, you got to get the younger brothers some some game.

Speaker 1: 50:40

Well, we, we know each other for a long time, you know since the early 90s. And then you know we, you know we had them go and they come back and it was meant for you. So we went our ways, went to our separate worlds and we came back. You know, today's mathematics, born, Should it be complete. You know, we went to. You know, from now, as a born, we'll be back to knowledge. So we completed the Cypher and uh, now we are on our journey to you know, to love, peace and happiness.

Speaker 3: 51:18

It's a beautiful experience.

Speaker 2: 51:20

You know what I would like to do uh episode with the gods and the earth's together building about, you know, relationships and things like that. I think that's something that the public should see, you know, uh, because normally there's like just gods out there Gods, gods, gods, gods. You know, I would like to have uh earth up at one point and then you know god and the earth.

Speaker 1: 51:50

You know, when you see interviews, there's only gods, there's gods, there's gods. So people that are watching the interview like what are women there? What are women there, you know, and uh, but yeah, I would love to see more. I was telling the god, you know, you know you gotta get the earth, you know, to explain about the earth. You know who else better to talk about the earth than the earth Exactly Indeed, indeed.

Speaker 3: 52:13

Yeah, I believe that would encourage more to get in the world. I believe that on this journey, some of them out there in this journey are refining themselves, like let's see a woman shave her head and whatever she is cleansing herself Right, and a lot of them are now are becoming very um susceptible to these false teachings online, definitely Relationship gurus.

Speaker 1: 52:36

Yeah, yeah, these conscious individuals and these conscious, yeah, you got these conscious individuals are sexually perverted.

Speaker 3: 52:42

Yes, you got these fake relationship gurus that be on a phone phone the nurses.

Speaker 1: 52:49

This is this and they're the worst ones.

Speaker 3: 52:51

They be the worst ones you heard. You got the brothers out there, like that other brother, that Derek Jackson, like, oh my god, I want to be like him. And you got the red handed. Yeah, I said his name, derek.

Speaker 1: 53:01

Jackson, you got the red handed out there.

Speaker 3: 53:03

Yeah, so yeah, it's true, like they know who the target is yeah, yeah, they, they target women, they target women.

Speaker 1: 53:10

You know you're, you're, you're the beautiful goddess and that you know the one of my beautiful goddesses and other kind of stuff, because you know a lot of system needs uplift, uplift. Yeah, they come with the words and they great with the words.

Speaker 3: 53:26

they're great, the words. Well, at maps I drinking a bath, what with?

Speaker 1: 53:32

petals in the shut up, boy.

Speaker 3: 53:35

Exactly, we need to get the earth here cuz. Yeah, I think the sistas will love, because I'm going to 輻 custard on video. I'm going to try and watch my lady Mecca and she like she loved it. She's like, oh, that's beautiful, the head wrap and how they do it. Not much makeup is required. She's like I'm like that's how they do it, it's very important.

Speaker 1: 53:55

As a matter of fact, next month, march, the third month, look at Earth as a third planet. It's Earth Appreciation Rally. Next month, earth Appreciation Rally, although the Earths that come to the parliaments not just the Earths, black women that come. They give them roses you know rose and the gods feed them. You know they have a feast, the gods feed them and stuff. You know so well. We acknowledge the Earth and we appreciate the Earths in our nation. Like I said, the Earths, they're unique, like the Earth is a unique planet. They have various life. The black women and the father said nation are unique women. You know it's hard being God, but it's hard being Earth. It's hard being Earth.

Speaker 3: 54:43

Shout out to all the Earths because I've been seeing you know what I'm saying when I was single man. You cannot catch no Earth out there. They not trying to hit you. They don't take it Like you, like man.

Speaker 1: 54:55

Because if a brother approached them, you know, first of all, if one one of the sisters, whether they Muslims or Israelites, or in a dress, in a culture, the brothers on the court, they not gonna say nothing. They might say, oh peace, sister, and that's about it, but they not gonna be like yo. Let me holler at you, you know, because they see how you coming already and they know you're not even. You're not for the BS.

Speaker 3: 55:19

Exactly, they don't even look at you Because you know, when I live at, I've been seeing a lot of Muslim sisters Like they don't even look your way. They like, oh, they just.

Speaker 1: 55:28

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3: 55:30

Like, I'm like damn.

Speaker 2: 55:31

That's kind of like how the Earths are, though.

Speaker 3: 55:34

Yeah, they not say anything to you the Earths, nah, they don't.

Speaker 1: 55:37

Well, in the culture, when I got knowledge, I was taught that you know, just say peace to the Earth, that's it. You keep it moving, that's it. Ask no questions, nothing, you know. If you see her doing anything wrong or whatever, you go to her God. If you tell her you don't say nothing to her, say peace Earth and keep it moving.

Speaker 3: 55:58

You know, I said that Exactly.

Speaker 1: 56:00

That's how I am to this day. Peace Earth yeah, me too.

Speaker 3: 56:03

Moving, yeah, keep it moving. No eye contact, I'm just, I'm very shooed Right right Before it.

Speaker 1: 56:12

Yeah, no, they my sisters. I don't look at them with a lustful eye, exactly, exactly and stuff like that. Yeah, sir, yeah sir.

Speaker 2: 56:20

That's it.