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The Origin Of The Ancient Free Moorish Rite (A.F.M.R)
Uncover the profound mysteries and traditions of the Ancient Free Moorish Rite as we host a compelling panel of esteemed brothers including Brother Sharif, Brother Sanchez, and Brother Aket Rael. This episode promises a revealing journey through their rich heritage, linking the modern practice of Freemasonry back to the influential Dr. Clifford B. Hazel Bey. With the Supreme Commander gracing us with his presence, we delve into the essence of our lineage and the pursuit of spiritual enlightenment beyond the recognized 33 degrees of Freemasonry.
As the conversation unfolds, Brother Abdullah and Brother Rozzy bring clarity to misconceptions regarding culture and identity within our society. The term 'Moor' is dissected, affirming that one's race and color do not dictate their place within Freemasonry. We navigate through history, exploring the statements of Prophet Noble Drew Ali, the role of nationality in shaping humanity, and how these concepts intersect with our practices today. From the historical contributions of the Moors to the influence of Angelo Solomon, this episode is an inspiring testament to our humanitarian and educational objectives.
In our final chapter, we connect the practical with the spiritual, addressing the preparation for life's ultimate transition and integrating astrology with constitutional law in our Masonic rituals. Paying tribute to the legacy left by luminaries like Dr. Clifford E. Hazel Bey, we celebrate the character and unity that binds our brotherhood. Join us for an episode that not only enlightens but also encourages you to seek your life's purpose, harness your inner fortitude, and tune in next time as we engage with your most pressing inquiries live.
NYPTALKSHOW EP.1 HOSTED BY RON BROWNLMT & MIKEY FEVER
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All right Peace world. Welcome to NYP Talk Show. I'm your host, mikey Fever. Brother Ron will be joining us a little later. What we have today is the long-awaited show. This is going to be a powerful show. We have brothers of the ancient free Moorish Rite on the panel, along with Brother Sharif. We got questions and answers to you know, questions we're going to ask and answers we're looking for to know about the origin of the Peace and greetings. My start with Brother Sanchez Peace, peace and greetings. My name is Antonio Sanchez.
Speaker 2:I am an officer of the flagship Alakaz Lodge number one, and I've been sailing with the rifle, you know, since 2013. It has been a great journey and I'm just pleased to be here with you. Thank you for inviting us to your show. Thank you for coming Looking forward to the questions Peace, peace.
Speaker 1:Brother, what is it, brother, aked?
Speaker 3:Sir, peace, peace, peace. Brother Mikey Fever and Brother Sharif Aneel Bey and the entire audience for the NYP talk show. My name is Brother Aket Rael. I hail from the most venerable Supreme Flag Lodge number one, lodge number one. I myself have been working with Moish Wright since 2012.
Speaker 3:And my distinguished honor, you know, to be sure that we continue to bring light, you know, with their darkness, and bring truth where there was once ignorance. We greet you. We greet you all of our brothers who we are here representing. You know we greet you from all of our sea stars, of the Olimar star and always. You know, we from. You know, we from the start. You know we acknowledge the inspiration who inspired the person who was responsible for the reemergence of the ancient Fremont Sprite, the illustrious Dr Clifford B Hazel Bay, who, for us, is our avatar and we hold high regard. So any thought of the ancient Fremorist, dr Hayes' name, must be in that same state. So we honor his legacy, his ancestor, as well as his love, sister Bessie Hayes, who continued to protect our right today. So we honor our ancestors. We will honor all of your ancestors, those who have came before us and made it possible for us to link with each other in peace with the Ron Brown as well.
Speaker 6:Islam boys.
Speaker 3:I believe, conversation and after the brothers introduced themselves. We were having a little technical difficulty, but we do have our L-Day Alim Bey L-Day on the line as well. Who will be talking after we? Once again, you know from the ancient Fremorse writer we bring you greetings, we bring you brothers.
Speaker 6:It's long. It's long, mo. Somebody in the back, something's in the background. I don't know what that is.
Speaker 7:I know what it is, it's me, it's my class is going on. I'm going to mute myself.
Speaker 6:OK.
Speaker 4:All right, thank you.
Speaker 3:I thought someone was having a problem we just want to once again thank you. Thank you for having us hosting this interview today, and one of. I hope there will be many more to come so peace, love and respect peace, love and respect.
Speaker 1:The next brother I have come you know I'm viewing from my is brother Abdullah. Who's next?
Speaker 5:Yes, peace. Peace to you, brother Mikey Fever. Peace to you, brother Ron Brown. Peace to Peace to you, brother Mikey Fever. Peace to you, brother Ron Brown. Peace to you, brother Sharif. Peace to the New Yorkers perspective audience and saying peace to my ancient free Moorish right brethren that are here. Brother Abdullah, I'm also an officer at LA Cat Lodge number one, which is in Brooklyn, new York, our flagship lodge for the Ancient Free Moorish Rite. I've been sailing with the Ancient Free Moorish Rite since 2019. It's been a fruitful and beneficial journey thus far. I'm learning a lot, gaining new perspectives about many things, but nonetheless, I'll keep a lot. I'm gaining new perspectives about many things, but nonetheless, I'll keep it brief. I'm happy to be here. Thank you for having us Peace.
Speaker 1:Peace, and then next Brother Rozzy.
Speaker 4:Peace, peace, can you hear me?
Speaker 1:Yeah, we can hear you.
Speaker 4:Yes, sir, peace and fraternal greetings to the Brothers of the Platform and I am also the officer in the flagship. Peace to my flagship. I have been with the Antifree Northright for approximately four years. I have a background in New York and Scottish and, briefly, there are two reasons why I'm here now. First reason is I've seen a quote online. I didn't know anything about it, it was right. It was a quote by Dr Clifford DeAzle Bay that says if you're not practicing your own Freemasonry, then who's Freemason in your practice? That's one. The next thing is yeah, 33 degrees, supposedly in Masonic Rite. I was wondering where the other 320 degrees are.
Speaker 1:So I'm in the right place now. Peace, peace. And you know, as we know us from over here, who was my brother. Sharif was on the panel. Have me don't introduce himself to those who just tuning in and for the families very familiar with him, go ahead, reeve slob uhava Sharif.
Speaker 7:I'm just your brother. You know what I mean. It's really good to see the brothers on. It's a lot of light shining right now. It's really good to see. I'm really looking forward to the conversation, Really looking forward to learning some things as well.
Speaker 1:Exactly, and I believe we have the Grandmaster, I believe, on the phone.
Speaker 3:We have the Supreme Commander. Peace out there. You have the floor.
Speaker 8:Peace, islam, islam. Thank you, ron Bracken. Mikey and I am from New York, born and raised, so we are family. We are certain this is fighting for me. Before I stand on my own, I'm going to give you something.
Speaker 6:Islam. We can't hear you, maul.
Speaker 8:Because I recall, when nobody knew about the ancient presence of three of more than one, that today we can have brethren in life such as yourselves, even interested in knowing who we are. That is an honor and knowing who we are.
Speaker 8:That is an honor and that's why I'm here today. When you come from a period especially historical and then you come into the light and you meet people who want to meet you, there's no higher. I am the Supreme Court remorse right. I've been around it since it was the of the ancient force right and thousand one. I am a student, son, spiritual son, masonic brother of Dr Secretary of the Bay, who we call the inspiration behind the New York Pride, anymore, right, and he too is looking on and he's looking with a sense of purple and a model because prophesied. We can get to the meaning of the prophet like that. That time was right, known to the world. So this, this is exciting, this is good. We're looking for the questions, easy ones, because, yes, nobody knew.
Speaker 6:We were like spinning in the dark Islam. Islam, I don't mean to cut, I don't mean to cut the brother from speaking, but I can't hear him.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you brothers could hear him, but I can't.
Speaker 6:I can hear him you can hear every word.
Speaker 1:He's saying yeah, Okay, it's a lot of the like.
Speaker 8:I think the bandwidth Okay, it could be the bandwidth. My background right now, you might might recall I'm doing over the phone, brother, being generating this. So so. I may be a because of, because I'm speaking to a brother.
Speaker 1:Now it's chopping up. Now the communication is cutting up.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he's breaking up. Really bad yeah.
Speaker 8:Again. I'll end it right there peace, peace.
Speaker 6:So are we going to go into the questions right now, mikey Fever, or are we going to now we're at the introduction.
Speaker 1:I want everybody to introduce themselves so the public could be, you know, well-acclimated with them, to know them. We get into the questions. Everybody introduce themselves.
Speaker 3:I'm going to just try another L Day. Can you try to talk now? Can we try to see if you can hear him now?
Speaker 8:Peace and greeting. Is that a little better?
Speaker 6:still choppy, still, still, still choppy. So let's, let's, let's, let's move right along and and if, uh, you know the brother wants to come in, then you know you just interject and, um, you know, we'll, we'll let the brother come back on, and then you know you have the opportunity to come back on anyway. So you know this is the home for everybody. You know what I mean, new Yorkers perspective. So whenever you want to come back up, you know we're here.
Speaker 1:I told him that they got to have a part two. It's a must.
Speaker 6:Yeah, for sure. This is beautiful to have all these Mo's on here.
Speaker 3:It's. Yeah, for sure, this is. This is beautiful to have all these mores on here. Yeah, it's a lot. Yeah, we're gonna do the best we can. You know, with the connections we can and when we try to get back on, I'll try to situate it so that it's right on the speaker and you get the best reception that you can okay, okay, all right so let's.
Speaker 6:I want to move on, move along because, uh, you know people, the viewers, you know it's all about the viewers. You know what I mean. So, um, you know, I want to move on, move along because, uh, you know people, the viewers, you know it's all about the viewers. You know what I mean. So, um, you know, I want to go into the first question, mikey Fever, you mind if I go ahead, shoot, shoot, shoot. Okay, what are historical events or uh figures influenced the development of the Moorish right within Freemasonry?
Speaker 3:Development of the Moorish right within Freemasonry, peace out they did.
Speaker 1:You hear that it's what was the historical event.
Speaker 8:Am I hearing it correct? Yes, event. Am I hearing it correct? Yes, is that correct?
Speaker 1:It's what historical events or figures influence the development of the Moorish Rite within Freemasonry.
Speaker 3:Influences the government of the Moorish Rite? No, he said what historical events or figures influenced the establishment of the Moors Rite Freemasonry.
Speaker 8:Oh all right, gotcha, gotcha. Okay, the historical events are many, brother right Copious, just the history of the Moors itself. If I'm going to mention a figure or a person, as Brother Arquette was saying, we're going to start with Dr Clifford Hazel.
Speaker 1:Day. We're here, brother.
Speaker 8:Yes, sir, and.
Speaker 1:I trust you can hear me. Yes, we can.
Speaker 8:I'm not certain if you know who Dr Clifford A Zellwey was Right, he's not alive now, but he was a Freemason, a Scottish Rite Freemason. He was a most puissant, sovereign grand commander within the ranks of Freemasonry, and that says a lot about what his status was status was, and it was he who brought about the re-establishment of the ancient free moors right, got you diesel bay had also.
Speaker 8:He was a masonic journeyman, he was a spiritual journeyman. He was also a bishop, a pastor, pastor, a master spiritualist. He'd also been a member of the Morin Science Temple back in the days, with brothers like Kirk and Bay and so forth. He also had been a Prince Hall Freemason as well, before the Scottish Rite, the Scottish Rite, and in 2001, he put in the work to officially re-establish the ancient free Moors Rite, and that had been an endeavor for 20 years prior to 2001.
Speaker 1:Got you, got you, got you. Question number two is that how does Morris' right Freemasonry differ in its symbolism and teachings compared to other Masonic rites?
Speaker 8:Okay, most Masonic rites, as you know, especially in America, are predicated on the stone builders' guilds of medieval England. Most of the Masonic rites are predicated on that and they are predicated on that kind of symbolism which is a stone builder's symbolism. The ancient free Moorish rite is predicated on a nautical, moorish, maritime symbolism. So now, in a speculative sense, we are not primarily stone builders, we are not primarily people you find under the trowel, if you will. However, we will find us over the floor. We are seafarers, we are gators, we deal with the seas. Symbolically. We're going to say the sea. That's symbolic. We deal with the's solid, we deal with the sea, the ocean. We are nautical. We are not stone builders, perfect. That's the mental difference. Otherwise it is still Freemason. It's very similar, except that regular Freemason, as it comes under the Anglo-Saxon, is primarily predicated on the Masonic guild of the medieval Morris. Wright, as an immigrant, the education of the ancient Morris is predicated on maritime. That's the difference.
Speaker 6:All right, I have a question in response to that. Does that have anything to do with maritime law in America?
Speaker 8:Well, freemasonry, as you know, is a speculative art, a Now it does to have some knowledge, and about maritime law it does. Right, we are not always out on the water where we're going to be confronted right with the maritime law. So we are speculative. Speculative, some of us have. However, our order is speculative. We don't necessarily engage in an operative way with maritime law, although it is a very good study. I mean, it's the ocean. It behooves us to know something about that. That is the direction that we're going and we do trust that one day the ancient free motor flight will put ships to sea and we will have aboard those ships sailors who have that six-pack license and floor to operate these vessels and who understand maritime law, because you don't actually have no flying, and we foresee that for the future. Dr Hazel, you want to talk about that? See, he was in America and he came out onto the world. See, we get to see experiences and we would go out, and go out far enough where you could see that the Earth was around and there was no question about whether it was a flat Earth Earth. We need to do that. We are aiming to do that. In are aiming to do that.
Speaker 8:We were immersed in 2001. It takes time. It takes time to move to that point, but today, one day, we'll put ships to sea and we'll have a lodge at sea. Because? And we'll have a lodge at sea why? Because that's where lodges started. Freemasonry started on the ocean.
Speaker 6:It did not start in the land, Islam. So I want to know. You just said Freemasonry started in the sea. I just wanted to clarify that.
Speaker 8:Yes, it did. Now for Freemasons, especially if you, Robin Morgan, wrote a book that he put into the OES. What they did was they took the original sign of Freemasonry and he put it into the OES. In the meantime the Masonic rituals didn't quite have the maritime importance of Freemasons, but he put it in the OES right. That was pretty quick, a nice way to conceal it. Masonic lodges used to first meet on the seat and that's why you're dealing with that oblong square. Your lodge room looks more like the inside of a ship than it does an equidistant square and that's why, within traditional cremation reeds, your 25 ordinances are called what Anybody Repeat that.
Speaker 6:He said in Freemasonry your 25 ordinances are what?
Speaker 8:They're called landmarks, and landmarks is a nautical curve, landmarks delineating certain landmarks that a navigator and the sailor must know while at sea. So they call them by landmarks and Freemasonry. This is a pre-mix. They call them landmarks and Freemasonry. This is a pre-mix. They call them landmarks. Well, it is a stone-built character. So when you study the different places where you can see that it has a nautical beginning and that's a fact, and that's a fact. And that's why they were called travel or traveling, not because they picked up the bags on their shoulder and they went walking, especially in a day with no automobile and maybe a horse and bus, but they were called travelers because they traveled the highways and the oceans.
Speaker 3:That was a good question brother mikey, we can't hear you, brother can you hear me now?
Speaker 1:yeah you can, all right. Good, what are the primary degrees or levels of initiation within the moorish right and what do they imply? You don't, you don't? You don't have to go to full details. Anybody want to answer that question. You're gonna have to reveal I don't know, I have.
Speaker 6:Oh, I'm so sorry, I don't like doing this, but I have to because it's just, it's like burning me up inside right now. Bro, go ahead. Bro. When did the moorish right within freemasonry start like? I don't know if you guys went over that already.
Speaker 1:What year that's?
Speaker 8:a good one. Morris Wright's Freemasonry start. Okay, in this modern era, right In this modern era, I want to drop something on you.
Speaker 1:I'm going to spin you around for a minute. Hold on a second Peace Islam. Not to be rude, can you elevate the volume a little more on that one, if possible?
Speaker 3:Hold on, give me one second. Hold on one second.
Speaker 4:I just got to elevate the volume.
Speaker 1:That's a good one.
Speaker 3:Hold on one second, Hold on, Let me just get you Okay. Lj yes sir. Can you by the time?
Speaker 1:Yes sir, can you by the sound?
Speaker 3:Yes, sir, yes, ma'am, yes, okay, okay, okay this is what I said.
Speaker 8:right? I said I'm gonna give you the bargain contract, I'm gonna give you the agency contract. Right, I said when I give you the agency contract, it's gonna get your head around. Right? I think that in a jovial way, not in a competitive way. Trust me the ancient free more is right. A reemergent modern country was in 2001 in Newark, new Jersey, when Dr, Belbay held a press conference to make an announcement of the reemergence of the Morris Rite, and we did that at the Orient Temple in Newark, new Jersey.
Speaker 6:All right, so 2001. So another question, mike.
Speaker 1:I'm so sorry, mike my bad, my bad, I've been drinking.
Speaker 6:I've been drinking a lot of water, so my energy is up anyway. So now newark, new jersey. What does what does the moorish right within freemasonry have to do with Noble Juali's teachings and origin foundation?
Speaker 8:Thanks, great question. The Moorish right has nothing to do with Noble Juali's and Prophet Noble Durali's foundation. The ancient free person would never usurp trespass right or commandeer Prophet Noble Durali's teaching. We have the most respect for Prophet, the most respectful profit and for, and we have within the ancient horse right our current method of the Morris Temple. Dr Hazel was a member, I was a member. I used to attend the original temple in Newark, new.
Speaker 4:Jersey.
Speaker 8:The process over in Raleigh started in the 90s, but most not just for Raleigh.
Speaker 1:but the things up can you repeat that again?
Speaker 8:cut out want to take on the on the, but we are not and they will take that vote on the circles, but we are not temple and we use of barbel, the interest of property over development. We don't do that. We respect what the process. Sometimes we come to us and say, well, you have to do the same thing. We're not going to do that, we're not going to step on profit.
Speaker 6:Okay, all right, brother, for the sake of, for the sake of, you know, the viewers and the listeners. We got the connection is just because I'm getting feedback in the chat about the connection. So you know, I don't know if you could come up, you know, you know, one time, you know with your camera on or what have you. But we got, we got to keep the viewers and the listeners first. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I believe it's traveling. That's what it is.
Speaker 6:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Traveling, yeah, so the connection is not here.
Speaker 6:The chat. Is the chats basically saying that, that they can't, the connection is off yeah yeah, so let's, let's, let's, let's just move on. I mean, you brothers uh, all came on. You know, I would like to hear from you know, other guests that are on on the platform. I'm looking at the Brother Sanchez with the flag behind him. The flag. What comes to mind for me is just Khalid. It's the Philippines. That's why I'm just so drawn to that flag right there, brother Sanchez. What does that flag mean?
Speaker 2:Well, this is our Interfemasonry flag and, according to the question that you previously asked, you know the establishment of ancient Freemasonry was on August 16, 2001. So the flag, you know, we all are Freemasons here so I'm pretty sure you're very familiar with the colors. So I cannot really go on that, you know, unless requested by my Supreme Grand Commander. But I believe you all are familiar with the colors. So these are, you know, our colors. This is our flag. This is our Alaket Lodge flag. That's the flag that represents the Indian Supreme Order's right.
Speaker 2:And just to add a little bit to what my Supreme Grandmander was mentioning, we don't have nothing to do with the temple. However, we do respect the teachings of Prophet Noble Drow Ali. Their teachings are more religious teachings. We're focusing into Freemasonry, so our teachings are very different. However, we do have brothers that are part of the temple and are selling with us as well. My Supreme Grand Commander was mentioning that. He himself, or Avatar, dr Clifford, he said they were both members of, you know, members of the temple. They started with the temple before establishing ancient Freemasonry, so they were both part of the temple.
Speaker 6:Okay, so, more obviously, you're more right. Uh, what? What would? Also, I want to ask the obvious question right like you are, I don't know what background you come from, but I I would like to know that as well. I find it interesting that you know you've taken on these teachings, so I would like to know what is your background? Like you know where your ancestors are from.
Speaker 2:Well, I am from Mexico, currently residing on New York. I am from Mexico, currently residing on New York, and you know, here, on ancient frameworks, right, we are not so much concerned about skin color. You know, we're more into mind color. So, yes, sir, I'm a descendant of indigenous people from uh America, from Mexico. You know, my, my parents and my family are from Mexico.
Speaker 6:Okay, and what? What? How did you? Because you know, um, from Mexican people that I know throughout the years. Uh, if I started telling them that they're Moors, they would look at me like what you know. So, so how did you? How did you pick the information up and what intrigued you about the information and made you want to uh, become involved?
Speaker 2:oh well, that was a that's a really, uh, good question. Um, it happens that, you know, my involvement with Ancient Freemasons' Rite started with. You know, I met a brother which unfortunately we don't have here. And you know I will say, and as we say in Ancient Freemon Freemasons, we're, as you have here from my Supreme Grand Commander, we are a nautical perspective. So, as I was dealing with rough waters, I met a brother and you know the way this brother treated me, the way this brother brother, the friendship that we both had, you know, that's what drove me towards Ancient Freemort.
Speaker 2:Right, I was like, before that life, everyone that I will meet, will you know, want to something in return, but not this brother. So while I was dealing with this situation, you know, once the storm passed, I asked the brother what was the reason that you helped me? Even I asked help from friends that I told they were like really close friends. They weren't there. So I asked the brother what's the reason that you helped me? So he intimated to me I am a part of an organization that we do these kind of things. I cannot really go into that, I cannot tell you what we do or what I do, but that's what I do. So that just got me into that and I was like, if that's what the organization can do on a person, I want to be part of that. I want to be part of that.
Speaker 6:I like that answer.
Speaker 2:That's how I get into Ancient Free World Rite and how I get into ancient free-mortar rite. And once I get into ancient free-mortar rite I start learning more about my culture, more about my indigenous people and how it all ties, how all those knots tie up. So that's how I came into ancient free-mortar rite Great answer brother, great answer.
Speaker 6:I have one question, notes tie up.
Speaker 1:So that's why I came into ancient, free, moral right. Ah, great answer, brother. Great answer. I have one question. I have a few questions. We got Brother Razi Any one of you guys being that the Grand Master, the Supreme, spoke about not infringing upon Noble Drew Ali's teaching and such right. Are his teachings somehow referenced at times in there A little bit, or do they touch on the principles of it, the tenets of it? Anybody's reading?
Speaker 4:Pete's brother is Brother Razi, no and.
Speaker 1:Brother Razi.
Speaker 4:Yes, sir.
Speaker 1:Go ahead bro.
Speaker 4:What you just asked is one reason why I joined the Antiphonomorph Rites. That was one of the questions that I asked. Does it have anything to do with Noah Jurali or the Morse Science Temple of America? It does not. We do not discuss any of the teachings of More Science Temple of America. Now back to my lead and, as you can see, we have a fair zone and what our Grand Master was trying to tell you and what Grandmaster was trying to tell you was a lot of divisions come around when you word more okay, more has nothing to do with color it has to do with culture and character, so we don't believe in divisions.
Speaker 4:It has to do with culture and character, so we don't believe in visions. You don't have to be a certain culture or a certain skin color to join our rock. That's a problem that we're having with our brothers in general. We're always fighting about who belongs where. More has to do with a man that is born from the earth, no matter where you cannot exclude a brother if we all come from the same soul, islam, islam.
Speaker 6:I would like to inject, interject uh, based on what I know, based on what I know, when you speak about, when you speak on the word more or more rich people, it would uh denote to those of darker hue. That's worldwide, so darker hue. So I don't, I don't, I'm not against anyone. However, if we're talking about the word Moor, we're talking about people of a darker hue. So I disagree with like a European calling themselves a more. They have their nationality, right, they have their origin, and that's, that's Europe.
Speaker 6:So you know, well, you know, color does matter in a sense. Quote unquote Mm, hmm.
Speaker 3:Well well, brother Brown, I'll just jump in here and sense quote unquote Well well, brother Brown, I'll just jump in here and say you know, and this is part of that distinction when we talk about you know, what is the Moorish right. You know, and what do we? What do we represent? And first, you know we're Freemasons. You know Freemasonry does not discriminate by race, by creed, by national origin, by skin color. You see a small swab of what the Moorish Rite is representative of and we have brothers from other nationalities and this is one of the we talk about perspective In the Moorish Rite.
Speaker 3:When you come into the Moorish Rite, you are going to learn Masonically what that word more means and it is in a different context and a different perspective than what we have in the normal nomiculture.
Speaker 3:You know of the word, of the accepted meaning of the word and, as we said, you know the word. Just doing a basic search on its definitions, you're going to see how vast it goes and you know and you're going to see that it goes beyond persons, it goes beyond people, it even gets down into this very planet. So learning the context in what we teach in terms of being Moorish is what makes us the ancient, free Moorish right. So while I definitely, I definitely can understand you know your, your objection here in the Moorish right, you know you're going to learn and we teach you know what we view and how we view the term more and why we are the Moorish right Oftentimes, why we get so confused, because oftentimes that's you know what you've heard. You've heard Moors and you know hearing about the temples and the different movements, but you haven't heard of a Moorish Rite since 2001. And then you started and now we're here. So I understand it, but just here we teach it in a different context and teach it masonically.
Speaker 6:Understood, Understood. Now my question to you is AYB more films? Just ask the question that was on my mind. So in this case, are there Europeans in the ancient free Moorish right?
Speaker 3:Emphatically yes, proudly yes right. Emphatically yes, proudly yes. Why? Because all freemasons, yeah, freemasonry does not discriminate against national or race, creed, gender.
Speaker 6:That's understood. That's, that's understood. I don't mean to cut you, cut your wisdom, but that's understood. However, when you use the term or word, more that is, it connects to people of darker hue. That's, that's just my. That's just my.
Speaker 7:Can I jump in?
Speaker 3:I think brother Yep and then Yep.
Speaker 7:Oh OK, oh okay, what I think right, like, for instance, we're talking, brother Ron, in a sense we're talking about differences between two organizations and procedure, right. So I give an example. I'll read from Moorish literature Prophet sends marriage law to all temples, right. And in it it says all marriage ceremonies of members of the Moorish side of the Temple of America must be performed by an ordained minister and the head of the temple. And then it says and any man desiring to take unto himself a wife and receive our Moorish rights. So that was an offer not just to members of the organization but to other people who wish to be married in the Moorish way Get what I'm saying. So why do I bring this up? I bring this up for this reason as the brothers just said, freemasonry opens its doors to all Right. What makes it Moorish is the right, not necessarily the organization making people Moors. Is that correct?
Speaker 5:And if you allow me to add on Brother Sharif, we actually do make people Moors, because it's about taking on the ways of the Moors.
Speaker 6:Oh, okay, now that makes sense.
Speaker 5:You also become a Moor spiritually. That's why we're not concerned with skin color, we're concerned with mind color, gotcha color, because I was my color. So, like Brother Shreve said, you're learning the way of the Moors, the right of the Moors, and in essence, one becomes a Moor by taking on the ways and the customs and the culture of the Moors. As we celebrate the Moors of heraldry in this right, just like when, if we look at history, we understand that the Moors ruled Iberia, the Iberian Peninsula, for almost 800 years.
Speaker 5:Almost 800 years, every single person that lived there under the Moors' rule who were practicing Muslims. In history they're recorded as Moors who were practicing Jews.
Speaker 4:That's a fact.
Speaker 5:They were all put under. That's a fact. They were all put under the rule of war. Right, they were all Moors. But if you take a look at those people, they were people of different skin tones, people who came from different ethnicities, but they all were put under the umbrella of being Moors in Moorish Spain or Moorish Siberia.
Speaker 7:Can I jump in? I would like to jump in on that. That's a very powerful point. I'm glad you said that, dear brother. See, because again we've been so dumbed down in Western society. You know what I'm saying. We're very dumbed down. There's much more nuance to the world, right? So even when we so like, let me just throw this out there and some people in the more science of America may disagree.
Speaker 7:but oh well, here we go More profit noble drawley, never, never in anywhere in his literature that we have purported to make mores, no more than he could make Chinese people. Chinese, you either are or you're not. You see what I'm saying, you know. So the More Science Temple of America is a come home movement. Right, it's to teach our people their nationality and their divine creed, as Act VI of the Divine Constitution of the Bible says. Now some people say well, no, we nationalize no. If you look up the definition of nationalize, that means take government control. Of Example, what was his name? In Iraq? The old ruler of Iraq, hussein Hussein, nationalized the oil fields. That's nationalization. He nationalized the oil fields In the United States. We would call that eminent domain. Exactly, you see what I'm saying. So the Moor Science Temple of America doesn't make Moors, it teaches people of Moorish descent. There you go, moor. It teaches Moors their identity, culture, history, etc. You see?
Speaker 1:what I'm saying. I have a question. Hold on, Ron. I just want to add one thing before we go any further.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:We got to stay on top. Who is Angelo Solomon?
Speaker 3:Okay, one second, brother Mikey, before we leave this point, because that's going to take another thing, but I want to just solidify this because this is an important point and this is why we say you know the Moorish Rite and it's Masonic, and I would say and L Day talked about it, I don't know if you heard and he sends his apologies because he can't be on and I understand the chat can't hear him. Well, and I pray, brother Ron and Brother Mikey, we could get this next one going and we'll all be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely clear it up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, of course he has a lot he wants to, you know, impart to brothers. But I would say and this is one thing that you know we're going to, you know, get all into it. I'm going to just state it out there. But you're talking about the Moors and we're talking about the Moors of heraldry. You're talking about the Moors and we're talking about the Moors of heraldry. Well, one thing about it is you know, when the Moors ruled Spain, you know, we know about that history there was instances, I would say, where you would have non-Moors Europeans wanting to be Moors. Now, here's the thing. We're not going to go into all of it in this context, on this platform, but there was a legal system that we put them through to get them there.
Speaker 6:Islam. I want to interject real quick. I heard you clearly, brother. I want to pose this question to Sharif or not question? Well, yeah, it's a question. There's a reason why Prophet Noah said we do not wish to amalgamate with the Pelskin races, faces or races of Europe. Right, yeah, yes, nations, nations the gods of their religion right right, so pardon whatever right, so pardon me whatever right, so what he?
Speaker 7:he said that for a specific reason yes, he did, and a lot of people don't know the specific reason. Let's talk about it real quick. I'll be very brief, okay, you know, you know, though, you know, and again, apologies if what I'm saying is already known. I can't presume everybody. I'm not going to presume people don't know what I'm about to say, but here we go.
Speaker 7:When we study what happens a lot of times in scholarship methodology, right, is that? A lot of times we look at ancient things or ancient times, or ancient people, or ancient situations with modern eyes, right, and we fail to contextualize the event that we're studying with the time it was said and the environment. It was in here we go In the 20s, was in here we go In the 20s, one of the biggest conversations regarding the Negro problem and the race problem. You had WEB Du Bois and you had people like him that were advocating asa solution to racism, race mixing, and that caused a bunch of Europeans to be like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 7:Prophet Jurali was addressing that with the movement. He was talking to the public at large, which included a lot of Europeans, and when he made that statement, that statement was to let him know no, we're not part of that. We're not part of the effort to solve the race issue by race mixing. So you Europeans have nothing to fear from us. That is the context under that statement. We, as a clean and pure nation descended from the inhabitants of Africa, do not desire to amalgamate or marry into the pale-skinned nations of Europe, neither serve the gods of their religion. So it did two things. One, it allayed their fears in terms of what the movement was about, because the movement was fairly new. Two, it still maintained Asiatic pride.
Speaker 1:Okay okay, that's what the ancient free Moorish right, you know, stands on. It's practicing its own form of masonry, as they put it. You know, but it's not necessary. It's not necessary.
Speaker 5:Yes, it is us. It is practicing our own form of masonry, because, as you brothers already know, if we say that Freemasonry predates the Stone Mason guilds of England, we know if masonry goes further back in antiquity and all of us can agree that it originates with the Moors, so by necessity there should be a Moorish right, since we have a York right, we have a Scottish right, we have other rights. There should be a Moorish right. It's only right that there should be a Moorish right, but it's not exclusively for people of so-called African descent or the African-American, afro-latino experience, it's not just for those people.
Speaker 5:Freemasonry, like the brothers have been saying, is open for everyone, and so likewise, we open the craft of Freemasonry practiced by the Moors to the nations of the earth. And one thing that we want to continue to harp on is that the Angel Free Moors Rite is not we don't deal with nationality per se as organizations such as the Moors Science Temple of America this is a divine, spiritual, freemasonic order, so we allow everyone in. Of course, they have to pass certain requirements, just as any Freemason would in any Freemasonic order or rite. And I want, brother Sharif, if you may I do admire you, brother and I want you to quote the definition of nationality that you so often quote. And then I want to build off of that quote that you're going to say Sure, usually I do two.
Speaker 7:There's two, right? Prophet Jalali was quoted as saying that nationality is the foundation of humanity. Right, that's less of a definition, more of a, a description. But why is it the foundation of humanity? It's the foundation of humanity because humanity as an entity is a conglomerate of individuals. So it's the way people come together, right, it's the way people come together. What science is that is the science of how people are, how society's automated, right? Elijah Muhammad said it this way to advocate a society of men, a group of men for one common cause. That's humanity, right.
Speaker 7:But the definition you're speaking about is Black's Law Dictionary. It's in the third, fourth, fifth edition. Its nationality is that quality or character that derives from the fact that a person belongs to a nation or a state. See, our people belonged as far as Black Letter Law goes, but had lost the quality and character. Why? Because, in America, core American values mandate that you adopt the idea that there could be one nation made up of people from various old world connections. So the prerequisite is what To contribute socially. You have to be able to say where you're from you can't say where you're from.
Speaker 7:You can't make the contribution. You can't say where you're from, you can't make the contribution. Hence, in this modern day, you have multi-million dollars, you could be a millionaire, multi-millionaire You're still seen as a Negro Socially, and the social imprint trumps the political and the legal, because people's minds are already made up long before those things come into play. Yes, peace islam.
Speaker 5:So let me just build on what he's what brother shreve just said, then I will yield the floor. Um, so, essentially, what a nation is composed of people? By the, by the definition. It's not limited to skin color, it's's not limited to ethnicity. In fact it's a multitude, just like the United States of America. All of our nationality is American. All of us have different skin tones, we have different national origins, but we're Americans.
Speaker 5:Today, the Angel Fremont is right is teaching a group, a group cultural identity and expression to denote the fact that we have national principles. Those national principles are reflective of the Moores of antiquity and the Moores of heraldry, those upright, our upright human forefathers, our ancestors, who contributed to humanity to give to humanity everything that when we talk about the Moors, we say the Moors contributed to sciences, to arts, civilized Europe, all those positive attributes that we give to the Moors and the Angie Free Moors write. We say that we teach those things as well and we want to give those principles and those characteristics to those people, those good men, to make them better. As we all know, that's what freedom is. It's the teachings that make good men, better men. So every man who desires to become a better man and they want to do so and pattern their conduct after the mores of heraldry. We allow them in and they take on those moreish attributes where they can be considered to be moreish. This last thing I'll say trust and believe in our organization. We do teach that more has.
Speaker 5:The term more does have a foundation with a specific group of people that originated. Some say they originated in um in southern arabia, some say they originated egypt, some say they originated all the way in Northwest Africa, because the term we know more is a Phoenician term that means Westerner. We know the Mori tribe that exists foundationally in Northwest Africa and so these people have such an in-depth and what's the word I'm looking for Indelible, if that's the right word I'm looking for. It has such a profound effect on humanity that the word more lives on today through words like Mauritania, mauritius, and it got tagged on to vocations like maritime activity, because that word, mar, comes from the word more.
Speaker 5:We also know water brown. So basically, what I'm saying is that the word more has retained a prominent place in world history, but it can also be spread out to other people because it has such a strong foundation with a specific group of people. But when people take on those characteristics and vocations of those first people who wore the attribute of being a Moor. If you take on those attributes as well, then you can wear it in honor and that's one of the things we teach in the Ancient Free Moor Shrug. I speak.
Speaker 1:I just want to say Go ahead, Ron Real quick. I was going to say I kind of feel off point because we both don't have Fezzes on. We're the only two on here without a Fezz.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I got a Fezz. It's right here in my mind, so yo check this out. I just want to say this A lot of people you guys are coming with questions. That's peace. I like the. You know the interaction. However, we do have super chat. If you want your question to be answered, super chat us and we got you. Uh, we're trying to build this platform. Also, we're doing we're trying to do a live, live, uh in-person podcast. You know that's our goal and uh, you know that's going to take finances, so, um, super chat. You know that's gonna take finances, so, um, super chat. You know you get your question answered. You know peace I want to.
Speaker 7:I want to say something really quick, right um, about the more science temple of america and profit noble draw league and the relationship I have to use that word relationship with civic, business and fraternal organizations. One of the major reasons and this was written about in the Moorish Guide newspaper in 1928. One of the major reasons and advantages of the Prophet Drew Ali moving his office to a community center called unity hall at 3140 indiana avenue on the south side, chicago. One of the perks that was mentioned in the newspaper about this was that all of the asiatic business, civic, political and fraternal Organizations had offices there. So he was working with Everybody and through Unity Hall and working with Organizations at Unity Hall could Touch the entire city.
Speaker 1:And that's what we're doing right here.
Speaker 3:Absolutely so. Peace, brother. Mikey, I know You're going to go to the next question, but I just want to capstone this, this discussion, because you know, this, this, this paragraph I think is is. It talks directly to it and this comes right out of our preamble. So if you would allow me just to read the two paragraphs, and I think it just surmises and it sums up exactly this discussion in this question, and it says, morris Wright, Freemasonry is a way of life as much as it is an order of truth, benevolence and enlightenment.
Speaker 3:We consider it our sacred duty to rescue Freemasonry from the murky waters of frivolous and demonical caricatures and propagate inspection, rather on its solid rock of morality and beneficent humanity.
Speaker 3:Moreover, we acknowledge the divine mandate of uplifting the Moorish nation in the process of establishing truth. Moreover, inasmuch as we are obliged fraternally, we are as well compelled genealogically, to affirm prosperity, solidarity and security for our nation. We are solemnly and mutually obliged to practice the principles of brotherly love, relief, integrity and truth, not only amongst our own kith and kin, but also with all of humanity. We honor and embrace the ethics of all humanitarian acts. However, we firmly resolve that our foremost loyalty is to the nation of Moors, which indicates again our mandate to uplift and educate, especially those without knowledge of self and kind, non-inherent, sublime principles of higher living and bound to base ignorance, spiritual blindness, bias education and false teaching. To this we embed our word in the mortar and block of our temple. I believe, beloved, we are building that temple, not made with hands, as we're doing tonight, so that just capstones exactly who we are and the spirit that we practice. This right, that's all.
Speaker 6:AYB more films. Thanks for the dollar. We appreciate it.
Speaker 1:Thanks, thanks, thanks. Appreciate it so Angelo Solomon. Can somebody answer who was brother Angelo Solomon?
Speaker 3:Wow, Wow so yeah, I'll go and I know I don't have enough time to go all into it, but you know, on the basics of it, angelo Solomon, he is the patriarch of the ancient Freemort right. Angelo Solomon lived between the years of 1721 and 1796. He was abducted as a child, sold into slavery subjugation. But even in the midst of his capture, as literally they were wrestling for him and his family was being slaughtered all around him, and little Angelo at this time I think he was five, six years old was ready to run, ready to run away from the slaughter. His mother asked him Angelo, where are you going? Angelo said wherever God sends me.
Speaker 3:And he led a life of early on subjugation, but that Moorish light shined through. He became and I would say we in the Moorish Rite did not give Angelo Solomon this title, so we didn't just go Dr Hazel and the LD didn't find this historical personage and just said we're going to call him this. In his day he was known as the father of pure Masonic thought.
Speaker 6:All right, Before, before we continue, I got to give a shout out to the chat. Before we continue, I got to give a shout out to the chat. Onerous, onerous, onerous. Thank you for the five bucks. We really appreciate it. Super chat, really appreciate it, appreciate it.
Speaker 1:I want to add on to what Reeve was saying. Shout out to all the brothers on the platform. First and foremost. Shout out to the ancient Fremor and Shrek for coming on board with us. Appreciate Sharif for being here, the Grand Commander, because what we're doing right here, what NYP's about, is just an open platform. There's times we may plan something out and the show may take a different direction, but it's I love here, it's just to unify us. You get what I'm saying To get rid of the bickering, because aesthetically, people will see the Moors, they'll see the Fez and assume you guys are part of some sovereign citizen aspect of it. Not understanding. You guys are all about this building the spiritual, building the mind. So it's a beautiful thing to have your brothers on here, man, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3:It happened, you know, and making that determination of exactly what is morris wright freemasonry, you know, because probably the first time a lot of viewers are are hearing that yeah, this is the first time I I I've I've seen it before like around, but I never really looked deep into it.
Speaker 6:Now I get what it is. You know what I mean after you explaining it. You know that was that was. That was a peace breakdown. Now I know what's going on. It has nothing to do with the Moritz Science Temple of America. It's basically masonry.
Speaker 3:Well, brother Ron and brother Mikey, brother Sharif, I would just say, and just you know, briefly, talking about our symbolism, as our Supreme Grand Commander talked about earlier and as I said, for the audience, we will have a better connection next time for the audience to be able to hear more clearly. So we do apologize for that, but looking at it, you know, symbol, symbolically, and knowing that we are dealing with the Moors who traveled the seven seas, well, there was a time, you know, and we can look this up historically, where the seas were a barrier. You know, and we can look this up historically, where the seas were a barrier, you know.
Speaker 3:Now, dealing with the moors, dealing with the understanding and the art of navigation and why, you know, we're nautical but we're also architectural, because before you can sail a ship, successfully navigate for your point of destination, you have to build that ship first. So there's the art of shipbuilding and with the Moorish Rite and what the Moorish Rite represents masonically, now those waters no longer become a barrier but they become a bridge and now we get to understand how culture was circulated around this planet pre-history, because we're going to the more of an heraldry, but we understand they can go back. So having that nautical character and even just dealing in water, and brother sharif talked about social, talking about the social aspect of water. Now you have your people dealing with water Masonically. It's a, and we know our bodies are what water.
Speaker 1:What is that conduit spiritual?
Speaker 3:metaphor we don't have time. While I understand the divisions, there's a spiritual thing that we're after. I always tell brothers what we're doing. We're doing this for that last breath. We all take it. We want to make sure that that last breath goes out with no regret. Why? Because we're aligned with the creator Each and every day.
Speaker 3:You may see us if you're on our Facebook forums and I do want to add for anybody to find out a little bit more about us, you will go to our website, which is wwwafmr-orishrightorg. You will see we have a website Dealing in what we're dealing with and why we say we're a divine order. This Masonic Rite addresses more than just your spiritual enlightenment or upliftment or building. We're dealing with our very salvation, because we're doing this for our last breath. So when you see us, you know talking about raising the sun and engaging this work every day. It's not a. It's not a. It's not a a symbolic thing for us. It's a very practical, daily practice that we are all engaged in and one that we have gotten from our Supreme Grand Commander and him from Dr Clifford E Hazel Day.
Speaker 6:I just want to speak to the chat. Ayb more films. Does the ancient Freemasonry right teach constitutional law? They don't, because that's what the brother said. Constitutional law? They don't, because that's what the brother said earlier. They don't Teach that. Does the Ancient Freemasonry Right deal with Astrology? Perfecto, ali Salaam.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, hold on next question.
Speaker 1:Salam El. To what degree? Yeah, to what degree? Hold on. Can I ask a question, Sharif? Have you had dealings with them in the past, With the ancient free Morris Wright? You were saying that earlier, brother.
Speaker 7:Yes, I knew Clifford Hazel Bay personally. I knew him in the mid-90s.
Speaker 1:Oh, absolutely yes, sir.
Speaker 7:Yes sir, I knew him in the mid-90s. Oh, absolutely yes, sir.
Speaker 6:So you said you deal with astrology To a certain degree. What does that mean exactly? What is it? What do you mean.
Speaker 3:So what I mean by that is, while you're going to Understand and learn certain things here, you're not going to come here and just get an astrology class. You know we're not just going and breaking down. You know all the sciences. While that is here.
Speaker 3:But that is not what you're just going to come here and get you know. As I said, in the Moorish Rite and in that Nordic symbolism of tying knots, we tie those knots but we do it masonically and as it is dictated in our rituals and in our degree work. So you will see it. But, as I said, you're going to see it enrolled out of the ancient Fimoish right way. But it's going to be there. Yes, sir.
Speaker 6:I would like to say this man, I would like to say this man Just whatever you brothers are doing is working on you, because you guys are well-mannered and I could just feel the energy. It seems like you guys, you brothers, are real good brothers.
Speaker 1:It's a fact.
Speaker 3:Well, let me just say, because Brother Sharif brought him up, you know, and he said he knew the avatar, he knew Dr Clifford A.
Speaker 4:Hazel.
Speaker 3:Bay. So, and I'm not sure, we'll talk a little bit more. You know, with the L Day and all the Atahs, but if you knew him and this is for the audience as well there are people on the line who knew him personally, not only knew him, but experienced his love and his help. If you knew anything about Dr Hazel, you knew that he was serious and he was a man of God.
Speaker 7:I want to say this First what Brother Ron Brown just said, not only do I concur right, but I want to point out that that's how you, that is how you determine not only an upright, just an upright man in general, but that's how we determine followers of Prophet Noah as well. I don't care what people say, they know. You know what I'm saying. What should character look like? How do you deal with people? In other words, interaction, social interaction is a technology. Come on, you know what I'm saying and it's how you deal with people.
Speaker 7:We're getting to know these brothers and you can feel their character.
Speaker 6:They can't hear like meang I'm telling you.
Speaker 7:Working for them. You know what I'm saying and you got to bear witness to that.
Speaker 1:When they came on here. They came on here so deep I was like, yo, this is like Wu-Tang. I'm like, alright, I sharpened my sword, but on a real tip though, brother, um, I can't. Now we're building over the phone for a while and it's from day one the connection like we're just going back and forth information, just talking about this and that, and we always say, yo, it's funny, we were building online back. What 2020? I'm like, yo, brother, I'll check you. Yeah, we've been building for a while. So it's like I was like this brother's solid man. He's real what he says, man, and it's an honor. And I picked up an interview book they had with C Hazel Bay years ago. Somebody wrote in that book right there I was telling him he reminded me of my uncle. He does the same his wording. Watching a little bit of videos they have of him online, I'm like same, like his wording and watching a little bit of videos they have on him online, I'm like same mannerisms as my uncle man.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I'm sorry, mike, go ahead. So how, as far as unity is concerned, you have the ancient free Mason Wright, mason Mason, sorry. Morris Wright. Morris Wright, sorry, ancient free Mason Wright, mason Mason, sorry Morris Wright, morris Wright, sorry, ancient free Morris Wright. And then you have the Morris Science Temple of America. How can we bridge the gap? What's the commonality?
Speaker 3:Brother Abdullah.
Speaker 5:Razzie Bay. There's no gap, necessarily, unless brothers want to make a gap, as it's been put. I'm a member of the Moral Science Team of America, just for full disclosure. So it's each brother's individual choice, as my grandmaster. Here he has said Brother Aked is my grandmaster. Here he has said, brother Aked is my grandmaster. As he has said, the Interfree Morse Rite and Morse Science Temple of America are two different waters, so they're not in conflict. They're just two different modalities, two different waters. As was said, Morse Science Temple of America is a divine and national movement it's a religious community, a religious organization.
Speaker 5:It's an Islamic organization, whereas the ancient free Morse Rite is a Freemasonic spiritual order which receives men of all faiths as long as they believe in the creator, which is we know that from Freemasonry.
Speaker 5:So there's really no gap.
Speaker 5:As Brother Sharif said previously, maybe before we start, before we went live, there has been a rift, so to speak, partly in the Moorish Science of America and in the Moorish movement regarding Freemasonry.
Speaker 5:There's a lot of Moorish Americans and Moors who are Freemasons. Then there's some who look at Freemasons as being evil or look at Freemasons as being usurpers of the culture, Because they're thinking about European Freemasons, not thinking about the Christ and the craft itself. So I'll just say I'll just go back to my original answer there's no gap, it's only it's all on an individual basis. I would say anybody, any grand body of the Morse Science of America who would like to work with the ancient free Morse Rite, I'm sure we would gladly receive them because, as it was stated, Dr Clifford E Hazel Bay and our Supreme Grand Commander, Brother Aleem Bay Elday, have history of being members of the Moorish Science Team of America and myself I'm in the Moorish Science Team of America and there's other brothers who are not here tonight that are also in the MST of A, and so it's just better of reaching out.
Speaker 6:Pardon me, aleem Bey, you mean Aleem Bey.
Speaker 5:Our Supreme Grand Commander, brother El-Day, who was on the phone. His name is Aleem.
Speaker 8:Bey.
Speaker 6:I'm like Aleem Bey.
Speaker 5:Not Aleem El-Bay, not that brother. Our Supreme Grand Commander's name is Aleem Bey El-Day Gotcha. Okay, our Supreme Grant commander's name is Alim Bey Elde Gotcha. It's similar.
Speaker 7:Brother Ron, to that question. I'm just going to quote the prophet's law as it relates to the Moorish side's temple of America. This is the law. The additional laws act for the additional laws. Right. Additional laws act for the additional laws. Right Says all members are making a public speech must not use any assertion against the American flag, nor speak radical against the church or any member of any organized group, because we are to teach love, truth, peace, freedom and justice.
Speaker 6:We had that conversation, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7:So anybody going contrary to that and saying that they're with the prophet, something's wrong.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because you know, this live right here I was telling Arquette earlier this live is going to bother a lot of people online. You're going to have brothers spitting that one too funny rap. Now you see what they did. Stop it, yo. We're not here for division, but they're going to do it. And you know, like I said, god bless you, man, walk in your light, because over here it's all about love, Teaching people the truth, unifying to save these babies, to rescue these children, because nobody's focused on that. They focus on their own personal, whatever they got going on with their ego, but it's about saving these children Because they are dying on a daily basis out here at a rapid rate, peace brothers.
Speaker 4:I'd like to add one more thing, because the word European came up. I just want to make sure this is clear, it's brought to you. The Moors were around before Europe. The Moors were around before Europe. Just understand that. And they learned what they learned from us.
Speaker 6:Indeed, I agree. I agree.
Speaker 3:And I would also say, you know, and while that is all true, we as an organization, you know, we have no problem, we have no quarrels with any traditional mainstream Masonic body, masonic right worldwide. You know, we're not here in contention, we're not here looking for recognition in contention. We're not here looking for recognition. We're not here looking for acceptance. Why? Because our avatar taught us that the only recognition you should be looking for is from the creator, as I was talking about on that last day. So if I can't recognize you and see the creator in your eyes, how can I see the creator and find the creator? So we live and our organization is based on that principle, and that principle is the principle that keeps driving us each and every day. But we're not here as a new Masonic right. Now we're teaching you the truth. Now we're telling you where you came from. No, because in the ancient free, moist right we don't roll that way free, masonically. Why? Because we say they are practicing it, paying dues and implementing it. Then it's theirs. Because what are you doing? Where's your right?
Speaker 3:We talked about this at different events. You know, if you had it, what happened to it? Somebody took it. Why'd you let them take it, if they stole it, why'd you let them steal it?
Speaker 1:That's a fact.
Speaker 3:We're going to talk about nation building. We're going to talk about we are the descendants of pyramid builders. Well, first, in the Moorish Rite, you have to take the mindset of that pyramid builder first. Come on brother Mindset. And, as our Grandmaster Sanchez said, it's not so much about skin color but it's about mind color. That's what we're looking for.
Speaker 6:All right, I have so much to say behind that, but I know we're getting ready to wrap it up. Where can you brothers come back on again? Bring the whole Wu-Tang.
Speaker 1:They came up with Wu-Tang, like again, bring the whole Wu-Tang. They came up with Wu-Tang, like me, all I heard was the same shit, same shit. Had the mask on that ghost face. Well, you know, bro, okay, it was crazy.
Speaker 3:I already sent you the message. You know. I know Cal Day has. You know he was fired up, man, because he's very, very excited. This is like hometown. You, I would say, let's talk, let's look at the schedule. If the community wants it and the demand is there, brother, we'll work it out. Let's get it ASAP. I would say, let's work it out.
Speaker 1:We got to have an in-person meetup.
Speaker 2:man Every brothers in New York they got to go down, man Definitely.
Speaker 3:Let's get a time where we can all sit down, break bread, get to see each other, get to feel each other, understand who we are and build that bond of familiarity because, as we know, we came here as strangers. This is a different place.
Speaker 1:in here as well, we came here uh uh, as strangers and this is a piece and re-inherit as well we came here as strangers, leaving as brothers.
Speaker 3:Man, come on, man, we're part in this, friends, not only brothers, not only friends, but there is a, a unity, a spiritual, and I told you this on the phone brother mikey there's. I never met you yeah right.
Speaker 3:on those few times I said, brother Mikey, I could just feel it. I feel who you are, feel your energy. Why? Because that thing resides in me, it resides in each of us, what you call it, that's what it resides in this. In this day and age, with everything that's happening on the TVs in these days, we got to reconnect with that spirit of the living God and we're going to reconnect with each other and that spirit will live. That dwells under the secret place of the most high. That's right. Abide under his shadow. We're going to abide under that safety and that's the thing we're going to build. And now that we have the Lord right here, we can get on the vessel and, just like Freemasonry, we have Freemasons that are what pastors, lawyers?
Speaker 3:Methodists, Baptists, Christians, Muslims. There's no contradiction.
Speaker 1:There's none. I said it earlier Same house, different rooms, and I don't. I don't. We in the same house at the end of the day, you know, you may believe in this, I believe in that and I told you this on the phone, no disrespect. So you know, I said the Europeans practice mainstream, just like we practice mainstream, right, but there's a difference. They built societies. What have we done? We're stuck fighting about. I believe in this, you believe in that, and the Britain still do.
Speaker 5:Or you're clandestine, you're bogus.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly so we got to stop that. We, you're clandestine, you're bogus yeah, exactly so we got to stop that. We got to stop that because my thing is, I believe every individual came to pass with a message for the people, like you had from Noble Drew, ali, angela, solomon, father Allah, the 5% Nation. All these brothers came with something to give the people to awaken their minds.
Speaker 1:It's just that some people became crazy zealots through the information and added their own twist to it and created the vision. I think it shouldn't be like that. No.
Speaker 3:And isn't it funny, brother Mikey, you know these saints, these prophets these people who have brought you know these messages. There's a commonality in that message.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a message. They all put a message.
Speaker 3:Most of the time, those people that you talk about, they never point to themselves. No, never they point it to something greater, and now we understand that that pointing, while it may be pointed, up to God, up to the creator, we have to see the creator and God in each other exactly, I see it every day.
Speaker 1:All the brothers on here. This is a beautiful meeting, man, and I want more of this to take place. We gotta come back for a second or third part, if possible. For sure, for sure.
Speaker 6:Beautiful meet up great having you brothers on. Uh, I think we should do a part two next week.
Speaker 3:I don't know, I'm just putting it out there brothers, and we'll definitely be connecting offline, you know which, yeah, building, and we'll definitely get ready and get geared up so we can give the public a nice show and possibly, you know, in person. But we'll be here, brother. And I would just say, in our closing, and from our Supreme Grand Commander, we want to thank NYP perspective, new York perspective, all of your viewers, all of the people who support you know this channel, all of the people who see your vision. You know are locked in. We understand that it takes time sometimes you know time to see it.
Speaker 3:But, as we know, build it, they will come Right. You know, if you build it, they will come. So, from our Supreme Grand Commander, myself, I want to just humbly thank you, brothers, for having us, on holding us in such a respectful manner. We appreciate it. We appreciate it. And to all of the audience that is here tonight, you know, we would just say you know, continue to walk in light, continue to. You know, strive towards the creator, strive towards that purpose, that thing, that that fuels you to get up and to combat. You know those, those negative forces, you know in you Exactly, and the creator will give you everything you desire, because everything you need is inside of you. So I wish you, and I pray, that your family is safe, I pray that your family is healthy, good health, and until we meet again and until we connect again, I wish you peace.
Speaker 1:Peace my brothers, For real you guys are great, man Peace.
Speaker 6:Thanks for coming up. Thanks to the viewers for chiming in and the super chats. Remember, we're trying to get a live in-studio podcast going. That was the goal from the beginning. We just wanted to see how the audience would respond to this type of platform and we're getting a great response. It's time to do a live in studio. Anyway, peace to everybody, Salute man. Tomorrow, Tomorrow live Wednesday.
Speaker 1:And we're going to the questions next. The next meeting. We're going to the questions next week. I know this is a freestyle because brothers were amped up, but we go through this. I got you my brother. Peace and love to everybody, man, nyp we out peace and love brothers.