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Trump & Musk Expose Fraud, Jim Jones Gangs are Fraternal, Trump Honorary 13 year old Agent, 14 year old shoots cop
Ron Brown, "The People's Fitness Professional," and co-host Mikey Fever dive headfirst into the cultural pulse of today's America with their signature no-holds-barred approach to discussing music, politics, and hip-hop culture.<br><br>The conversation begins with a comprehensive music update from their resident expert Clip, who highlights recent releases from Tory Lanez (dropped from jail), Ray Vaughn, Nas, and Busta Rhymes. Sports talk follows, examining corruption in boxing following the controversial Tank Davis vs. Lamont Roach fight, where Roach's attempt to overturn the decision gets denied by the commission—sparking a larger conversation about integrity in professional sports.<br><br>The most riveting segment explores Trump and Musk's DOGE (Department of Government Efficiency) initiative and its discovery of extensive government fraud. The hosts dissect how taxpayer money flows through layers of NGOs, funding questionable projects while leaving communities struggling. This leads to a fascinating exploration of America's digital future, with the hosts speculating on how "smart cities" might transform our landscape while potentially leaving many behind.<br><br>When examining Jim Jones' controversial comparison of Bloods and Crips to fraternities, the hosts provide crucial historical context about gang culture's original purpose and its deviation from community protection to community destruction. Their authentic New York perspective brings depth to this discussion that mainstream media often lacks.<br><br>Perhaps most compelling is their passionate defense of authentic hip-hop culture, lamenting how corporate interests have diluted New York radio. Their celebration of DJs like the late K-Slay, who championed local artists despite industry pressure, reveals their deep commitment to preserving hip-hop's roots.<br><br>The episode introduces
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All right, all right, all right. What's going on? What's going on? What's going on everybody. It's Ron Brown LMT, the People's Fitness Professional alongside my co-host, sean poe what yo, mike fever in the building.
Speaker 1:Uh, we got clip in the building. Cool ass travel in the building. Um, and before we go into the subjects, we're going to discuss music. We're going to let the clip go on the music and then Shani was supposed to be here for the sports. But if Shani is not here for the sports, it's all good, we're just going to go into the subject matter. So that's the format right now. If you don't know, on this Tuesday, the Hip Hop Podcast. We let the clip go, let him go. Sports is going to go and then we go into the other subjects. Thank you for all those who are viewing tonight's podcast, the five viewers. Thank you for being on right now and let's go into it. So clip what's going on in music nowadays, what's new, what's hot, what's not.
Speaker 4:Well, as we all know, Tory Lanez dropped an album. Yeah, from Jail. It's pretty dope. Yes, it is my boy. Ray Vaughn, tde artist from Long Beach, dropped two new singles Cemetery Lantans and Flat Shasta Fire. Both of them records is absolute fire and the Cemetery Lantans video is insane, insane, super dope video. Nas and Steel Bangles dropped a record. Dolce dropped a single called Anxiety. Slim Thug and Propane dropped a single called North to South. Larusso and Snoop dropped a single. My God, mars and Jason Cash, which is Problem if y'all don't know. From the West Coast, they dropped a single called Got it. The Snoop and the Russell record is called Oliver and Company. Busta Rhymes dropped a project called Equinox. It's pretty dope. Big Hit, free, big Hit. You know what I mean. He locked up there's no hit boy producer's father. He dropped a new record, a new album called Free, big Hit. Free, big Hit. You know what I mean. He locked up there's no Hit Boy producer's father. He dropped a new record, a new album called Free, big Hit.
Speaker 3:We got to talk about the Big Hit thing too. We missed that one too, so just keep it.
Speaker 4:Shout out to my Mexican LA homies. They dropped, you know, lefty Gunplay. The Santa Fe Clan dropped a new single called Lumbre Black Soprano Family. You know that's. You know that's Benita Butcher and his crew. They dropped a new album called the Outcome and they got a record called Super Immaculate on there. That's crazy. They got AZ and El Camino on there Crazy. Jim Jones, we all know, dropped this project at the Church Steps and ain't really been too much. Really. That's like crazy, like that. That's about it. Oh, shout out to Harlem. You know, harlem rapper Errol Holden Crazy Dropped some new joint, insane. Go check him out. If you're from the town you should know about Errol Holden already, but if you, don't get familiar because he's crazy.
Speaker 3:Is that the dude that Cam is like backing now I saw him do like a little freestyle this street.
Speaker 4:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:So Cam is backing that dude right now. Got you, I know who that is. I heard one freestyle, but I know you and I say, about summertime, towards the end of the year, he's going to be a name that we frequently hear, yeah got some fire From Linux app you already know.
Speaker 4:shop the Linux.
Speaker 3:That's on a video he did on the east side where um bloodshed uh mirror is at. Yeah, um, and real quick we got to mention um big hit um. We forgot a couple of parts ago it was. It was uh, I should have put this in the group chat, but big hit um was assaulted. He's locked up now but he was uh badly beaten by um, some co's in the prison and they um trying to basically like sweep it under the rug and and not like show no real support or give him the attention that he needs. So shout out to hit boy, shout out to big hit, and I hope that everything works out with Big Hit and that he comes on, because he definitely to me. He had a fire album.
Speaker 4:The joint with him and Game. The joint was crazy and the joint with him and Alchemist.
Speaker 3:The Alchemist one. I didn't really get into the one with him and Game, but the one with him and Alchemist, fire, fire.
Speaker 4:Duh, shout, fire like fire. No, shout out to the west coast too, even though it's a new yorker's perspective. You know me, I'm always shouting them out because I'm trying to, I'm trying to. You know, I'm trying to create that east west unity that we need to have so much west coast I like that.
Speaker 3:To be honest, I thought he was just really just like oh, my son is his hit boy and i'ma just ride the wave, but big hit willie has got some lyrics, he's got things to say, so shout out to him. I hope everything works out with him and his prison time. And all that because personally I think he's just too old to be going back and forth to prison.
Speaker 4:And shout out to Bacon Boy for crying on his IG again.
Speaker 1:Drake crying again.
Speaker 2:His tour got canceled right.
Speaker 4:He gonna talk about. Yo, you know, since a child, I've always been non-confrontational. Come on, son, you lying. You've been confrontational this whole time you've been rapping, you've been sending subliminals, you've been disrespecting women, you've been disrespecting other rappers Quietly. That's confrontational, fam Stop. Stop with the lies. B Somebody need to smack blood out of him B Roll out, roll out is coming.
Speaker 3:That's what he mean by that. Watch this, wait till you hear what I got to say.
Speaker 4:I don't want to hear what you got to say. No more. You already said what you had to. You got washed. We don't want to hear no more stories from you. No more, though you know.
Speaker 3:They got the FIFA. What is that? The owner of the FIFA soccer? Yeah. The World Cup joint? Yeah, want to get him to perform Shawnee.
Speaker 1:What's good, what's good Shawnee.
Speaker 4:What's good what's?
Speaker 1:good.
Speaker 4:What's good. But yeah, bacon Boy need to relax man. But that's all the hip hop news for now.
Speaker 1:As far as okay, thanks for that. Thanks for that clip. Really appreciate that, shawnee, what you got for sports, you came right on time oh, peace to everybody.
Speaker 5:Okay.
Speaker 5:So the Lamar Roach, tank Davis, fight right. Peace to everybody. First things first. Okay, so the Lamont Roach, tank Davis, fight, right, that's a lot of talk. That's a lot of talk about that. So your man, lamont, tried to go to the commission To get the victory, or to get the draw overturned Into a victory. Right, saying that Tank should have been disqualified For taking the knee this time, this time. But the commission Turned him away, saying that Tank should have been disqualified for taking the knee this time of third, this time of fourth, but the commission turns him away. The commission said, no, we're not overturning that.
Speaker 5:And then it just made me think of this right, there's a lot of Tank Davis hate out there. Yo, there's a lot. It's bad. It's to the point where even professional boxers just want to see him lose, like they don't even want to earn the victory. They, they, they want to. On the shortest thing he was so out, he should be disqualified. He should be disqualified for the hair grease that was in his head.
Speaker 5:You reach it now, papa. You reach it. And then the problem with that becomes you just devalue yourself. In certain situations, the draw is worth more than the victory in certain situations, because with there being so much undetermined in the first fight, it's going to bring everybody out to see the second one. But now you're just so thirsty for any type of recognition not even the money, because the money not gonna go up any. You just so thirsty for this recognition, and everybody see it. You think Devin Henry just took uh uh uh, ryan Garcia to court. He just took him to court after he got his brains beat out. He took him to court and that seems to be the way things is going right now. Like boxing is not the gentleman's sport that it once was. Like the corruption has always been wild, but now it's running rampant. Yo, it's nasty, man, it's nasty.
Speaker 4:I mean, but Everybody's suing and taking people to court. It all started with Bacon Boy.
Speaker 5:But Everybody's suing and taking people to court. It all started with Bacon Boy. I just want you to know.
Speaker 1:Real quick. Besides what's going on with Tank and Roach and that's obvious corruption within the boxing sphere what else in sports is corrupt right now? You were talking about basketball a few episodes ago, where people are all trying to shoot three points.
Speaker 5:Well, here's where it boils down to, because this is a really good question, right? I think it goes a little bit deeper than what's on the surface. There are a lot of professional leagues that are getting in bed with the books now with FanDuel, with DraftKings. There was a time when that was supposed to be kept separate, just so that you didn't have an inkling of any connections or anybody making any phone calls. See, before that used to be something people would say, or the phone call must have came in from vegas, or something like that. That used to be something people would say, you know, mythologically almost. But now there's some substance to it, right? Because about one person got caught cheating hands down, he got caught cheating um, um, ponte, ponte porter, uh, for the raptors. He got caught cheating um, he had a chat room where he was doing, uh, a crypto and all of that.
Speaker 5:He's a two-way player too. He's on like a two-way contract, meaning he comes back and forth from the G League, which is the developmental league in the NBA, to the NBA. You know he goes back and forth. They make a couple of dollars, you know a quarter of a million. They make more than the average man does Something you could go home and be happy with. He decided that wasn't enough and told everybody in his chat to take the unders on him, under like three and a half on his rebounds and points and so on and so forth. So he just played like a bum out there and then, when he started getting close to the numbers, he said, oh, I got an eye injury, I need to go sit down.
Speaker 5:And then you, you know, it was like maybe like close to like 3 million dollars that went out to people and that just run off like crazy to the book, like wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, don't. Nobody bet on you. Nobody even know who you is. What's going on with this? So there's, there's corruption just like all over right. There's corruption from players trying to find their little ways, and then there's corruption from these higher leagues getting in bed with them, dueling with draft kings and so on and so forth. So with their business being the thing, always, you know it's falling in money. Things are becoming a little bit obvious.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it seems like there's corruption everywhere right now. So, speaking of which, I want to go into Trump and must expose fraud. If you, if you have more to say, shawnee, about sports, if you have more to share, you can do that. Nah, nah, let's dive into it. Okay. So, trump and Musk exposing fraud, right? So, of course, elon Musk we spoke about this, I think last podcast, you know, bringing Doge into the picture and Doge's Department of Government to efficiency. So the point of Doge is to make the government more efficient. So what they're doing is it's almost like auditing. So what they're doing is it's almost like auditing. They're almost auditing every department of, or you know, a good portion, part of the government and they're finding a lot of fraud USAID, ngos, ngos, deis and they found a lot of fraud in that and where they're taking taxpayers' dollars and they're using those taxpayers' dollars to use it for Disneyland and I forgot where the country was.
Speaker 5:Transgender animals transgender animals transgender animal and what is the purpose in that?
Speaker 2:you know how they come up with different products, like hair products, any like beauty products, and scientists research for like disease cures and stuff they test with lab mice or pigs. So they were trying to find ways to, you know, alter the human chromosomes for transgender.
Speaker 4:Why are we trying to make transgender animals Like what is the purpose of? Because animals are naturally heterosexual, right. So like, why are we trying to just manipulate?
Speaker 5:I've seen some gay dogs on video before you too. I've seen that before. I'm just saying I've seen that before.
Speaker 4:The way of life in general and I have nothing against the gay community the way of natural order of life is heterosexual and with the animal species, this is like what are we doing here? What are we doing here? I don't get it, but I'm going to just move on because I know we're still talking about the politics of Trump and all of that, but why?
Speaker 2:Well, what Doge is doing, what Elon Musk is doing, and I always. There's an old saying my mom say, the loudest one in a situation where things go missing is usually the thief. And we're not taking political sides. But I see a lot of Democrats are angry at the fact that funding has been came to a halt taking place because, as Ron said earlier, those are just ordering, basically money mechanics Follow the money. Things are being broken down, Checks are being written, blank checks for large amounts are being written out to these groups and you don't see where that money is being spent on. It's being spent on LGBT, Sesame Street, transgender rats, and again, it's not a slight against the community transgender rats and again, it's not a slight against the community teaching people about.
Speaker 2:They just funding a whole bunch of different things and then when they investigate, some of these organizations are not even existent. Really, they just got a name now you're talking about the NGOs.
Speaker 1:Right now, the NGOs is crazy about the NGOs, right? Yeah, now the NGOs is crazy. So the NGOs are not-for-profit organizations, right? So the way that I heard about it, I'm watching the news so you could have an NGO connected to another NGO funneling money from another NGO. So you have like real small NGOs and you have the bigger NGOs and they're all funneling money from each other. That's cool, right? So it's like the thing about it all is that the thing that has me so I don't want to say angry about it, but it has me irritated is that they're using our money to do all of this, right? So? The taxpayer money and also people who really want to put money to a cause, you know? So you mean to tell me. So these not-for-profit, they're taking money from people and then they're using it for what? What are they using money for? So we all know. We've been hearing for years that politicians are crooked. So now we have the evidence.
Speaker 4:But here's the thing this country was built off of crookedness. We got to stop acting surprised when they just tell us about one crooked thing, or several crooked things. Yo bro, they're going to replace this crooked thing with something else that's even more crooked Corruption. Yeah, just what it is. They just got tired of this, this workflow of being crooked. We got to slow that down a little bit. We got we got a whole new game plan and we just want to expose this real quick so we can do something else.
Speaker 2:And chai ain't got no knowledge of right what's the name of that movie that with um george clooney played in with matt? Um, there was a matt dylan or something. When they was out in um, saudi arabia it came out like an old seven you, you guys probably know what I'm talking about. It's called Ciara or something like that. Politicians said well, america's, the fabric of America, is corruption. That's how we thrive. It's off corruption. You know we've been doing as you said for years, that they've been taking our tax dollars and they involve many black projects. But you know, now it's come to the forefront with this and it's like people are starting to wake up to see, like yo, I can't go down to the local government building and go seek for some kind of assistance without being scrutinized. But meanwhile you got money to funnel out to other countries. Maybe it's your guilty, maybe it's a guilt that has you funneling this money out, for you know false cause from exploiting these other countries.
Speaker 4:You know I'm saying, other countries are invested in us too, so a lot of people got to understand there's corruption across the whole entire planet, of course, bro yeah, I don't think it is anything, um, based in guilt.
Speaker 5:Money is never based in guilt and business has never been. It's never been based in guilt and business is never based, never been based in guilt Like business has been. Slavery has been considered business, so there's never any guilt in business. That's why the saying is just business is so popular. You know what I mean.
Speaker 5:But there is always that idea of powerful. People keep power by staying powerful, and that happens by linking together and doing certain things above other people's heads people and like causes. Right, we see it on our blocks every day. You, you might see a bunch of bunch of people. They might be bloods, a bunch of people, they might be crypts. This is just the same ideology on a bigger, on a very much bigger scale, as a fact, on a much bigger scale. You, you know. So. When you, when I think about it like that, then, um, then I understand why these things happen and I understand why there's a need to stop it.
Speaker 5:And I'm wondering what's the step? Because once you find it out, it's like Clint was saying all right, you found it out, right, all right, so we're going to make another move, okay, we'll bet we're going gonna make another move. Okay, we'll bet we're gonna make another move in positivity and hope and pray, but the, the human mind is conditioned to outthink situations, so the correct, the it'll come back around. Like you know. You understand what I'm saying. I still, I'm still interested in the next step. Um, still have to remain positive, still have to believe in change, still have to believe in tomorrow. You know what I mean. But I am interested in knowing well, once you figure, once you find this out, what do you plan on doing? Because once you put it in people's faces and we all see it, what do you expect emotional people to do?
Speaker 5:in that situation right and that's why the next step is way more necessary. Before you even say anything about the okay, we found this, that and that. Alright, but what's your next step? You gonna tell me that and then put me in a panic, and that's when and then when they put you panic.
Speaker 4:And that's when and then when they put you in a panic, that's when they already got something else to cover that, to calm you down while they do something else. It's the same principle.
Speaker 5:Why? Because you're dealing with people who are planning 10 years ahead, 10, 20 years ahead. The plan is the plan is orchestrated and it goes far out. You have a few people who are going to tend to it very tight and you'll never understand and never know nothing that's going on. But then you got people who don't quite understand why things have to be so clandestine. And then they start to become obvious and then that's when things unravel.
Speaker 4:Here's the thing All this money that they're finding, all of this is about to create new change for this whole entire digital world. We're going to this new futuristic digital world. We're entering Bitcoin.
Speaker 1:Everything.
Speaker 4:We're already digitally here, but if you pay attention to places like Japan and China, digitally they're way more past us.
Speaker 3:Just like you mentioned, with the wildfires that was happening in LA, they're going to turn all that into digital and technology. It was fires in Long Island recently.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the Hamptons.
Speaker 4:All the rich places about to be stayed. It's going to be the first smart cities.
Speaker 3:South Carolina was like last week or a couple weeks ago. So all that plays a part. And with the doge looking into the fraud it's like where does the money go? Because you know they're going to say money goes here, money goes there. But before it gets to where it go, somebody's getting and when they send it to whoever they send it to, they skim off the top. So if they send an 800 million here, it ain't they probably only going to see about 500 because somebody's going to take before it really gets settled in and washed up.
Speaker 4:They're going to rebuild them cities with this money that they find it from all these places. You got to understand all of this is set up a certain way. We're going to burn down this place right here and we're going to go and snatch this money that we already knew was being funneled in so many different ways. We're going to scoop all that back and we're going to push that into these new smart cities that you heard that you lower class people would never be able to get to. Here's the thing.
Speaker 5:Why would you even go through all of that? Because you could just and I'm not disputing, I'm not disputing, I'm just saying you could have just did that, Like you could have just did that.
Speaker 4:I hear you could just did I hear you, no, no.
Speaker 5:No, I'm not disputing what you're saying. I believe what you're saying. I'm just you know what I mean. I'm like yo, you did, y'all didn't have to go through because, at the end of the day, there you're gonna build a smart city and it's gonna be people who are gonna automatically eliminate themselves from that dream. It's like you were saying, with japan and japan being like so far ahead, with they already having smart cities, like japan is like you know, japan got uh, uh, uh, um, vending machines that ain't even gonna give you what you want, like, like, like can say I want this and the vending machine going to give you what it decides. What's up, man?
Speaker 1:Real quick to put more context into this conversation, right? What exactly are smart cities? Can anyone explain that?
Speaker 5:Oh so, oh, yeah, like, so. So smart cities are like we would. You would have, let's say, self-driving cars. You would have, uh, uh, you would have, um, robots, your house, your house, would you know, your house would be. Your house would be smart. Like you would have automation on your phone. Your, your lightings would be automated, yeah, yeah, your lightings would be automated. Um, uh, they also in japan, they also are working on this song this, uh, public transportation system that that drops people off right to their house.
Speaker 5:So when you think about these things, right, and this is this is because, all right, we all were kids in the 90s, when, when, when, when the race to be the best country was really kicking, right, that that thing was kicking early, that that that thing was kicking. Recently, they think anything kicking, it ain't really been kicking since then. You know what I'm saying. There was a decision made at that time about kids not going to school in the summer. There was a decision made at that time about kids not going to school in the summer, and that kind of set us all the way back.
Speaker 5:Because now we're talking about America and Japan again, because we was in a race with Japan at that time and they was creeping up on us and we realized that their kids were going to school all year long. When they gave our parents that same option, they said no, give our kids the summer. And ever since then it's been kind of on the down spiral. But now, with people having smart cities, you got to catch up or you're going to look dumb and that's just flat out. Like they got a smart city, your city is dumb just in comparison. Just in comparison.
Speaker 4:It's like having an iPhone and you still got a rotary phone. That's a fact. Smart cities is what we've seen as kids like the Jetsons, watching the Jetsons.
Speaker 5:With the outside treadmill and all of that.
Speaker 4:Here's the thing they're already announcing robots for your home. Now, bro.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I will buy.
Speaker 4:It's going to get cheaper as the smart city get created. Robots in your home. They cook, they clean, they do this, they do that. Your TV, your heating in your house, everything is ordered. You communicate, you talk to everything. You hop in your car. Yo, I need you to go here, the car's going to bring you there. You don't got to drive, you don't got to do nothing. In California, they already got laws stating that you can't have regular cars after like 2035.
Speaker 2:Can I add one thing too? Digital City as well. They'll be building power plants for AI, because you need a lot of computer storage for that.
Speaker 4:Our currency is going to crypto. It's going to happen. All of it is going to be crypto. The dollar, us dollar, holds no value, no more.
Speaker 2:And I'm going to add to this too.
Speaker 1:Wait, wait before you go there, Mike, real quick. My bad, my bad, bro, You're good.
Speaker 4:Fort Knox. Did y'all see what's going?
Speaker 1:on in fort knox.
Speaker 4:No, but I can only imagine they may not be the amount of gold that's supposed to be in fort knox they stole that from haiti 1915.
Speaker 5:Look at the banana wars old rules, though, like but that's old news, like that's been since the 70s, when they stopped basing the USD off of gold. Why do you think that happened? Like? Why do you think that happened? It wasn't because there wasn't a Listen man. There's never going to be enough gold to back the USD. The USD is supposed to continuously go on. How much gold can you mine out the earth, like? Let's be real about some situations. Like it takes the earth a long time to start replenishing natural resources.
Speaker 2:Can I add to this Shawnee?
Speaker 5:Sure Because we always didn't suppose that put your press out to the conversation.
Speaker 2:I'm going to go first with the digital city. They need space and warehouses to have data centers, so that's why they're using it for AI, because you need a lot of processing for that. And as far as Fort Knox, I haven't go, look up 1915, the banana boat wars. When they invaded, they went to Dominican Republic, haiti and, I believe, nicaragua, if I'm correct, to the caribbean islands to take gold from, you know, the island itself, natural resources. They went into the bank, city bank I'm saying names city bank went march down in haiti and took gold. And what's taking place in africa? When they're mining in africa, not only for those chips, that mineral, for chips, but it's also for, also for gold. They're doing the same thing out in Dominican Republic right now. This gold, this company, I think Barrett Gold are at war with the people.
Speaker 4:I'm glad you said that because if you pay attention, who's in Africa right now? Like hard body China, for all the natural resources that's needed to make all the stuff that we use, the stuff that's in these phones, in our computers, come from natural resources from Africa.
Speaker 5:That's a fact. That's a fact. And they had to nerve those LDCs.
Speaker 2:Lower developed countries. They had to nerve the countries in Africa, ldcs.
Speaker 4:They always do. They're going to call it that they're going to call it that, because here's the thing they're colonizers.
Speaker 5:They go into places.
Speaker 4:They talk down upon it to us because we're technically American citizens, so they're going to make everything else look beneath us. So we're going to take the wealth from them because we need it for ourselves. The wealth is in the natural resources, because half the stuff that we need to run and make these computers and do all these parts and stuff that we do and this functionality comes from the motherland. It always comes from the motherland.
Speaker 5:It always comes from the motherland. No, that's a fact. And that's when you got to ask A real question like this how much do you believe in slavery? Yeah, we still slave. Yeah, but I mean on a larger scale, right? I mean like you got people dying for a chip that's gonna go on your phone, for that lithium's people dying right now. Kids get buried in in, in in in minds right now, and so on and so forth. As we talk, there's probably somebody dying over that. You know what I mean so that's what.
Speaker 5:That's why I asked that question like how, how far removed are you from the ideas that in your head you say you hate? How far removed are you actually?
Speaker 1:I want to move forward. That was a great discussion on Elon Musk's fraud. We could go on and on and on about this. For real, we have four years to talk about this situation. Let's go now into Jim Jones. Gangs are fraternal. When he was on Joe Button's podcast, he compared blooding and crippling gang banging to fraternal organizations.
Speaker 3:Let me start this. I want to say that because I was looking at that and I swear that the idiocracy that is being depicted nowadays is on a high. It's at an all-time high because 50 Cent said he never saw a successful gangbanger.
Speaker 3:He never, saw success when it comes to gang. I don't want to say success because I feel like he has a point, but when you look at Hells Angels, that's the only successful gang within that culture. Now, when it comes to Bloods and Crips and fraternities, no, there's no way you can compare an organization who kills for thrills and there's no success past that. You are talking about a gang who claim to be one name, right? Whatever what Bloods mean? Blood Affiliated, brotherly Love, overriding the Christian Destruction who claim to be one name, right? Whatever what bloods mean Blood of.
Speaker 2:Brotherly love overriding the Christian destruction, exactly.
Speaker 3:But then you got the non-trace set beefing with this set, beefing with that set, beefing with that set, but we all supposed to be one gang Doesn't make sense to me. Now fraternity, on the other hand, you know for a fact that, let's say you went to uh hsbc any one of them you can graduate and get a job and put that I'm down with uh the q dog, the purple and gold people no disrespect to any of y'all, I don't really know all your names like that. So I'm just the purple and gold people. No disrespect to any of y'all, I don't really know all your names like that. So I'm just saying the purple and gold and if you put that on your resume there's a better chance that your resume can skip a whole lot of other people just for that one thing.
Speaker 3:You can't put I'm a blood and go somewhere unless you go into prison. And even in prison is when you still got to come up in rings and do nonsense. So there's no that. Him comparing fraternity where it's beneficial in the end, outside of the hating and the branding, is what I don't like. I'm going for fraternities altogether because my sister is a red and white and I'm assuming when my daughter goes to college I'm going to put it in my sister's head, like yo you know, when she joins the sisterhood, the line or whatever you want to call it you can pull them in.
Speaker 3:It's more about you know what you know. Not what you know, but who you know, especially when it comes to fraternities. The blood thing is, I think Crips are more organized than Bloods anyway, if you ask me. Naturally they are. It's great he said that, and knowing that Bloods are more detrimental to.
Speaker 4:Let me say New York Bloods is more experimental. I'm not going to violate Bloods in LA because they got real tight organizations over there.
Speaker 4:The whole problem that I have. My only issue with the gangs is that we lost the vision. Right Because the vision Right, Because the vision was to protect the community from white gangs. Right so because that was the initial vision. And the power structure came. When we was able to fight off white gangs, people got and their egos came and they started terrorizing their own people and we lost vision. So so the blood was actually formed to protect their neighbors from the crips.
Speaker 5:Right, and even in the city, blood was formed to protect, to protect the people from land kings. But then the thing is this pseudo if that was so right, given everything that Trev just said, right, then who the hell did he help out Like? Who did you help out Like? If this is the brotherly fraternity, right. If this is where you come for the love that you've been lacking, or just for the ability to have long-lasting friendships and relationships, right. If that's what this is based on, right. Who have you helped out? And why are you going against the people that brought you into the Dipset fraternity, if it's, if it's, you understand. So, this whole thing that you say, this whole mentality, this whole, you still trying to push, you still trying to push game culture and all that, bro you, 50 years old man, you trying to push game culture.
Speaker 1:I want to add on to that. I think Jim Jones is totally irresponsible because you're this old right now, right, you're this old, you're repping blood and you're acting like a young kid. The way you talk and carry yourself is just just not of a of a, of a man in his 50s or going to talk about.
Speaker 5:You're gonna go on the drill with the young homie if he got trouble with it, or something like that. That's what you sound like, bro that's what you sound like, right?
Speaker 1:the thing I don't understand about jim jones is that is that Jim Jones is supposed to be this big blood gangster guy, right that never been to prison, which that makes no sense. It's supposed to. If you're from the streets and you've been in the streets like that, you're going to do some kind of time, especially with how he carries himself as to be some capo with how he carries himself as to be some capo.
Speaker 5:He's the capo, right, so I don't think that. Come around until the cameras start, but that don't not, that don't come around.
Speaker 4:I think people need to understand, especially black people, and the way jim was talking. Talking about bloods are just like fraternities. No, you're not, because not Because, technically, bloods and Crips are on America's terrorist list Exactly.
Speaker 2:I want to add to that the history and for those, check out this documentary called Bastards of the Party, bloods and Crips. I got it in my I can send it to you. I got it in my computer. They were an offshoot of the Black Panthers, the real history of them. For those who don't know. They were supposed to be, as you said, as you guys said earlier, protect the community, upliftment for the community and continue the plight of the Black Panthers. What happened with them? One situation happened where it was like a bunch of he say, she say some COINTELPRO. A struggle for power happened and then we got it taken to place. When the crack epidemic came in 86, out there in la they, they were given some um submachine guns and from there all chaos broke. But you know what jim jones was trying to say. I kind of understand he's probably mean the organization, the structure is like a fraternity but two different agendas, right. And then he said, he said he doesn't regret pushing that because you know.
Speaker 2:He's probably saying you know what I did it, I take honor in it, but in reality gangs are very detrimental detrimental to our people, especially with the agenda, because these young kids out here are dying at record numbers and they are joining for the sake of being cool. And and I'm gonna tell you, just like troy I said, I remember my neighborhood was gang infested. I have bloods and crips in my family. But what used to bother me and I hope you know if they're watching this, I'm not taking shots at nobody growing up, but I used to see like gang dudes, like living sleeping on their mom's couch. I'm like yo, this is not the way I want to be. Like, and they call you OG or you. You're like 30 years old, 25 years old, you got a 16 year old. So my, that's the big homie, he's 16. That's the big homie. Like, come on, bro, what are you teaching them?
Speaker 3:I never thing, I I didn't, I never understood it, you know.
Speaker 3:And I was around when og mac was running around, um, just wilding out and, yeah, bronx up in the, you know just og mac running around, I think the summer of 98, I think norby album had came out and and that's when it was like a little running rampant when he was out, you know, terrorizing people and and and crips. When it was like a little runny rampant when he was out, you know, terrorizing people and crips, and it was all about you got to wear red, you got to wear red and I think the neighborhood.
Speaker 2:Innocent people. My bad to interject with that, but yeah.
Speaker 3:Neighborhood Because of him. You know, they all decided to wear blue, gray, all type of other colors, when they saw him walking through, like it was like nobody's really scared of you, but I remember those years being so detrimental to that gang, just being so detrimental to the community. It was like yo. There's no way you can say this is positive but because we know the backstory of gangs and culture, their agenda meant one thing, but then they, they went so far left from the agenda. It turned into something totally different where it's like we can't respect none of y'all and y'all all look crazy and y'all making black people look even crazier with your antics. And when you talk about unity, there's never no unity when it comes to that.
Speaker 4:First off, the whole culture of hip-hop was created from gangs actually stopping the dumb shit and uniting. That's the funny thing.
Speaker 4:The whole purpose of hip-hop was started from New York City gangs. One person, one of the gang members, lost their life and everybody was like yo, we gotta have a real meeting and talk about how we gonna figure this thing out. The OGs was at least conscious enough to say all right, enough is enough, right. And when they did that, they had a meeting in the Bronx, all again, all ahead of the gangs, and they and and and out of that meeting formed the culture of what we love and live by every single day.
Speaker 2:Exactly. But but you know, gangs always been around, like Republicans and Democrats are gangs and, as Saigon said, you know, street dudes will claim neighborhoods, these dudes claim countries. Big difference. You get what I'm saying. But we over here fighting as remember that movie, the Warriors You're fighting for turf. You know we're gang banging, but I seen gang bangers become politicians. When the cops come to the neighborhood and bust one of their homies in the back of their head, they pull out their phone and say, because I'm a black man so I always look at them as funny, like yeah, you lost that vigor to protect the community but you would shoot your black brother in a second my thing is this okay, you're a blood member, cool, you, cool, you're a blood gang member and whatever blood crypt, the F-Dog, whatever Right, you're a blood member and you say it's like a fraternity.
Speaker 4:All right, cool, you probably are like a fraternity, but you got to remember you are what you how can I say this? The company you keep around you, you, if y'all not regulated dudes, it's out here Wild. So I'll start looking in If, if I, if a crew, if I'm a, if I'm a civilian and I'm not from the streets and I don't got people that's attached to this when y'all doing crimes or whatever. I'm looking at all y'all like y'all crazy, right at all of y'all like y'all crazy. I'm not singling out just individuals. I'm looking at every single one of y'all like y'all wild From a civilian square point of view.
Speaker 4:We all come from the environment, so we understand that every blood ain't wild and every crimp ain't wild and every Latin king ain't wild. We understand that it's sometimes individual situations that occur, but from the outside, looking in, all of y'all get, if your man, if your man down the block, if you non-tray or whatever, or whatever set you repping, whatever, and your man is giving it to a shootout where he cats up the block and the feds get involved. They snatch you all of a sudden in a recall. No question. That in a recall, no question.
Speaker 1:That's a fact. Now I want to move on to Trump, honorary 13-year-old agent. And then there was another subject on there. Was it a shooting?
Speaker 2:for the 14-year-old yeah, the 14-year-old who shot the cop in Jersey.
Speaker 5:Okay, they're going to smash him, know, yeah, yeah, he's gonna do not.
Speaker 4:jersey jersey is nasty yo, jersey, jersey, jersey is. I'm listening jersey is wild. I don't think people realize. And jersey is wild in little pockets and that's what people gotta get, like pattison, north jersey, irvington, elizabeth.
Speaker 2:Patterson Irvington.
Speaker 4:Irvington Elizabeth. Irvington Elizabeth, newark and Jersey City is one big circle of wildness. They right next to each other.
Speaker 5:I got wild in Newark Shout out to Irvington.
Speaker 2:Shout out to my man, dooley Sky Entertainment. Shout out to Bird and them and listen.
Speaker 4:I got people in all the places and it's. Newark is like the Bronx in the 80s fam Right now.
Speaker 1:Right now. You know what I think? Newark is more like Yonkers. Nah, that's like the.
Speaker 4:Bronx in the 80s. It gives me like a Yonkers feeling. I used to live in Newark. I'm going to tell you like this the Bronx and the 80s right now, in 2025, they are Newarkers. They are right now Right now Shout out to Newarkers there's some good people in Newark.
Speaker 3:Newark is wild fam East Orange.
Speaker 4:All that's the same thing To us New Yorkers East Orange, newark, jersey. All of that is that when you drive it through there, it's all the same, it's wild.
Speaker 3:It's like watching after the watch riots. It looked like that. And I saw a dude from New Jersey who's on the internet making positive videos saying like we need to, people from Jersey need to buy up the land in Jersey because it's so tore down and I think it's Newark and it looks literally. He went to a store where you can open up the door and all you see is a vacant lot with bricks Just all like. It looks wow. It does look like the Bronx in the 80s and it looked like wow.
Speaker 5:I was on my way to DC. Right, this is how you know it's crazy. I was on my way to DC. I was taking a train, taking the Xceler. You go through Jersey. You got to pull through Pennsylvania, pull through Philadelphia real quick and be damned if you can't tell exactly when you leave New Jersey, like yo, you can tell. Exactly. Like when you look at Pennsylvania and you look at New Jersey, there's just a little bit of water in between these two winds. It is night and day at 12 in the afternoon. Yo, it is crazy. Like Jersey do need a ramp up, it needs something.
Speaker 4:In certain parts of Jersey.
Speaker 5:I need a ramp up Certain parts. There's money out there.
Speaker 4:If you went to Philly then you drove past Camden. Camden looked like Baghdad.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Right AC is just as bad too. Outside of the strip, ac is super hood.
Speaker 1:Now, real quick, real quick. This is a part of the podcast where, when we're in person, it's got to be edited. So now, the reason why I'm saying that is because we're we're going off topic.
Speaker 5:We're supposed to be talking about, uh the uh, the kid who shot the cop while we was talking about how wild it is out there, we was just laying the base for how wild it is and how it looks, probably to set how a situation like that could play or probably to see what his punishment is going to be. I think the conversation was leading into that.
Speaker 2:Juvenile life. Juvenile life.
Speaker 4:Juvenile life, that's a thing yeah, he's going to get juvenile life. He's going to have a hard time because Juvenile life. He's going to be in jail until probably about 25.
Speaker 5:Oh, oh. Thank you for explaining that, because that's going to be my next question.
Speaker 3:That ain't a bad time though. That's like 10, 11 years. I could probably do that. I don't know what he's going to do after that 25, after he turned 25.
Speaker 5:His record is dirty, or is he going to get out, though? Is he going to make it through that?
Speaker 4:He's too young for them to give him a natural life sentence.
Speaker 5:I mean, is he going to make it through that system though? Because if you was banging it out with the cops, they like if you was banging it out with the cops, you know.
Speaker 2:You know they don't take to that, especially in new jersey, because it's like you were saying, it's so impossible jersey, it's crazy racist the history to it aside the whole thing is is what led up to you shooting the cops right, or they were investigating um drug, a drug ring there with guns, a gun ring, and and then they got there and there was a bang out, there was a shootout.
Speaker 4:Now my question is this Should we be mad at the kid or should we be mad at the brothers that had it?
Speaker 5:I'm not defending Shordy's actions or anything like that.
Speaker 4:No, I'm not saying that, but should we be mad at the kid or should we be mad at the adults that had this 14-year-old around this shit? The adults, man, oh no.
Speaker 5:I'm with you, oh God, definitely the latter. Like who keeps bringing kids into situations like this? Like who are these people who keep doing?
Speaker 4:this. The parents should be in jail too, because at the same time that's neglect to have a child around in the first place. That's a whole nother problem.
Speaker 5:Yeah, but that's neglect to have a child around in the first place. That's a whole nother. Yeah, but that's new, that that's, that's, that's an effect, now, right, because then that then that kid the little, the young white boy who shot you, shot his school up or shot one of his classmates, then they arrest his mother and his father. So that type of that type of action is, you know that, you know that's an effect nowadays.
Speaker 1:Right Now I want to go into the Trump honorary 13-year-old agent thing.
Speaker 4:DJ Daniel, hold on Can't be there because I got to use the restroom.
Speaker 2:All right, got you? Dj Daniel was a kid that, when Trump had that addressed to the Congress, was a 13-year-old child who survived brain cancer. He was doctors gave him about five months to live but he ended up living five years. So you can clearly see that, due to the surgeries they may have on him to try to treat this brain cancer, his hair comes in, he has patches. You know what I'm saying. You can tell it also altered his functionality, but he speaks and all, and you know how Charlamagne Tha God and them quick to say donkey of a day. Well, I'm going to give him asshole of the day.
Speaker 4:Live from.
Speaker 2:NYP, I don't find it funny when you.
Speaker 1:That's the new thing bro, asshole of the day, yo who wants you on that Mike.
Speaker 2:We're going to use that Asshole. Charlamagne Tha God and that's. Dj Envy Yo asshole.
Speaker 1:asshole of the day Charlamagne Tha God and DJ Envy. Yes, asshole of the day, nyp. That's what we do now. Every Tuesday, we give you the asshole of the day.
Speaker 2:You need a sound effect.
Speaker 5:You need a sound effect. You need a sound effect. You got to find it now.
Speaker 2:We have put a sound effect. You need a sound effect. You got to find him. Yeah, asshole, record that, because how can you make fun of a child and I see a lot of people, even assholes to the Democrats I was sitting down to. I don't care how much issues you have with Trump disagreement I was sitting down too. I don't care how much issues you have with Trump disagreement, but if you see them honoring a child for his you know his, his childhood dreams of being a special agent on police officer, I would, I would, I would have stand up there and applauded him, because I don't have a problem with a child Like. He's innocent, he doesn't know any. You know people can separate. You know their emotions, their emotions from reality. This child is an innocent child who has endured something that's so critical, that could have taken his life, and he's just happy to be alive. And that Trump honored him, that's a big thing. Let me get this right. We'll call him Patches because it's in the timeline. You're funny as shit, is that right?
Speaker 5:Is that right? Yeah, you got it. Check the chat. Check the chat. Oh, dude, you threw me off bro. Something to say. You threw me off, damn Mikey. Write it back. It'll probably jog my mind some.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I can't, I forgot man. Go ahead. You know, kids all have dreams.
Speaker 3:You know, what I'm saying, Especially dealing with terminal illness, especially cancer. I think it's unfortunate that any Cancer itself is hurtful and painful. So for a kid to have cancer and survive it, it's a moment in time to say, oh, I've became what I've always dreamed about. After not having that much time to live, you know what I'm saying. And then they I think the kid was black too right? Yeah, DJ Daniel, from Texas, but for them, you know, Charlamagne, for one who has all these kids, should really be a little more sympathetic to the fact that you know he was able to become what he wanted to become, whether it was for a day, a week, a year, it's whatever. We all know him to be a jerk, but he sometimes comes through every now and again and just give you a little sugar. Then he go back to his normal ways. But nah, I think you're right.
Speaker 2:He needs a drop. Remember that drop he got.
Speaker 5:He respect them dudes or he need one of them. Fuckmaster flex drops.
Speaker 5:Yeah, he needs one of those right, but like, at the end of the day, seriously, you know, like who is them dudes? Like? I remember Envy Don't twist me. I remember Envy. I remember Envy had bloody moves. I remember Envy. I remember Envy had bloody moves. I remember Envy. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5:The news was hot, yeah, the news was hot, but what happened to Envy? Like what happened to him? I'm like yo, bro, when did you just start going in this direction? That's just like like void of respect. And then you go. Yeah, but, bro, it's like you got the dream right. Like you hustled up so hard. You was a DJ, you had your own artists. You've been in touch with some of the biggest artists in the city. You on the radio in the city. You're on the radio in the city. Like, bro, you're living the dream. What happened to your soul, bro? What happened to your heart? Like hip-hop is what got you where you're at. Listen, listen.
Speaker 5:Certain people, I would believe, are smart enough to sit back, look at something and learn how to capitalize off of it right and and then run through life with it. I believe that. I also believe that's something that you learn later in life. It's not something that you dive into when you're young and then go through it when you're young and you dive into something, it's passion, it's not not knowledge. You gain knowledge throughout it. Where did your passion for the city go, man? Come on, envy. You is New York bro. You the hustle, bro you the hustle. You rep the town. First thing is, you're not even supposed to be up there with that down south dude like that. I'm sorry, this is New York City bro. He ain't even supposed to be on our airways. His opinion is not supposed to be respected up here. I'm sorry it's not.
Speaker 4:It's not but guess what? I'm with you, right.
Speaker 3:But here's the thing, e-bro ain't from New York, he's from. But here's the thing E-Row ain't from New York, he from Oakland. What's the?
Speaker 4:He ain't supposed to be on a radio station. What's the Spanish chick that's on the show with him?
Speaker 2:Oh, Laura Stiles.
Speaker 4:She from California.
Speaker 5:And she should be on the radio in Louisville.
Speaker 3:She from New York.
Speaker 5:No, no, no, she's supposed to be on that radio station.
Speaker 2:He's from Baltimore.
Speaker 5:He was from hip-hop like that.
Speaker 1:Hold on, hold on, I didn't know none of this. Hold up, you mean to tell me Ebro Laura Stiles? Uh, uh, uh, uh, um, what's his name?
Speaker 2:Rosenberg.
Speaker 1:Rosenberg yeah.
Speaker 4:I'm going to keep going. None of them are from New York.
Speaker 2:What's the other one?
Speaker 4:Jess with the best is from Baltimore. Jess with Jess. Hilarious is from Baltimore. The other girl ain't from New York. Charlamagne ain't from New York.
Speaker 5:Yeah, like what is, with all of these people just coming to our city and then taking over. And here's the funniest part about it, right? Anywhere else you go in America it ain't like that. And you know what's funny? On top of that, we still get the music late. How is this even possible when all of y'all come from all these other places and New York still get the music late. What's really going on this?
Speaker 4:is going to get the site listing going. Everything is Explain. You got to understand when we was coming up. Hot 97 wasn't corporate, Nope. Hot 97 was Roots. It was basically founded in the roots. Wbls, kiss FM was roots. It was everything that was oriented. It was from the ground up here, kiss.
Speaker 5:FM.
Speaker 4:Yeah you know what I'm saying. 107.5, all of that was grassroots here. So we had every you know our DJs, our program directors, everybody was from the city. So the culture of the city was reflected on the radio, that's why we got to do this podcast.
Speaker 1:Let's go. That's why. That's why this shit exists, man. That's why this shit exists. We got to bring it back. Everybody on this podcast is from New York, and the people who we have on here some of them are not from New York, but the majority of the people are from New York.
Speaker 4:Exactly so. Everything is controlled by either MS, who runs I-97, or iHeartMedia, who runs what's it called. But then you have this new radio station, 94.7, which is New York radio yeah, old school, classic New York hip-hop radio, which has Ed Lover, wild, miss Jones. You're lying, cliff, get off the screen bro Get off the screen and if you listen to that radio it gives you an old New York feeling of city.
Speaker 5:Yo call his camera yo he lying to kick it? That ain't real. That's real, for real yeah. I got to get on that.
Speaker 3:I got to get on that, yo, that's crazy.
Speaker 5:Where'd you find that? How'd you find that?
Speaker 4:Bro, I'm just in tune like that with the culture. He's tuned in yeah, he's tuned in culture, so like when you got Ed Lover, when you got you got Mr C was on there too. Before he passed he was on there DJing and all of that Like it, was the classic hip-hop sounds of New York City.
Speaker 1:I just found out about that, about maybe like a year and a half, two years ago.
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 1:That station.
Speaker 4:And I've been listening to that for station.
Speaker 5:I've been listening to that station.
Speaker 4:for years I've been listening to that station for years.
Speaker 5:I kind of like the charity, my own kind of a of a listening group, so long now.
Speaker 4:There's another one that's like 93 point something, but that's more old classic R&B. And then they do hip-hop on Saturdays.
Speaker 5:So that's the new WBLS.
Speaker 3:But if you look at our channel that's crazy, but 105 started out like that, where when they first came in and they was dealing with Hot 97, they came with the we from New York. This is what the sound is gonna be like, cause Ed Lover was on 105.1 when they first came out, the first one. They used to tell you like oh, after the commercial break we got Slick Rick song. They used to tell you the next few. Oh, after the commercial break, we got Slick Rick song, children's Story. They used to tell you the next few songs that they was playing.
Speaker 4:It was all basically yeah, because when that station first started, I remember because they was playing a lot of classic hip hop and I would always hear Naughty by Nature's, everything Is Gonna Be Alright in rotation and I'm like, yes, finally we got some real hip hop now. Because, no, disrespect, I don some real hip hop now. Cause no, no disrespect, I don't, I don't knock no other region, but I wanted to hear what New York felt like on the radio again Right Fact and we lost K Slay.
Speaker 5:K Slay kept it alive. K Slay was good, but no, the whole door, no. But K Slay is a totally like no hold on Yo. Oh my God, god bless, god bless K Slay.
Speaker 5:That was a 50-50 in the mood, bro, like yo. You know he in the book too. You know he in the writer's book too. It ain't just the spinning, like when it come to hip-hop and K Slay, it ain't just the DJing. He do two parts, bro, which means he really do three parts, because he do writing, he do DJing and he do the knowledge. He's in the Bible for writers. There's stories about him writing.
Speaker 4:He's in the Bible for hip-hop.
Speaker 5:Yeah, no, no, no yeah, break break, break, break. But I'm just naming the lead ups to it. You know what I'm saying? The little intricate parts. You're absolutely right about that. But it's like when we talking about DJ's and keeping the New York flavor right off the back and you talking about them awesome radio stations, and then you come on, you bring them K-Slay. You gotta throw the flowers at his feet, man. You got to throw them up in the sky. I hope they reach his feet. This is about Dez here.
Speaker 4:right, this is Dez K-Slay was the last and only DJ on New York City radio that would play local New York City artists on a regular basis. He was the only one that kept the authenticity of the original way the culture was formed on radio.
Speaker 2:Those songs were black.
Speaker 5:Let's get it around you might be on the bottom of it, but you can get on it.
Speaker 4:That's why he stayed at that time slot and he never took a new contract.
Speaker 4:Because if he took a new contract, he was never going to be allowed to play local New York artists. Because under the new contract he was never going to be allowed to play local New York artists. Because under the new contract with Emmys and all of that when you renew your contracts they stated that you can only play what the program director tells you to play. Exactly. K Slade was the only one that was like no, I'm going to keep my old contract. I don't even want to deal with no new contract. I'm going to stay here from where I'm at.
Speaker 3:That was hip-hop culture and I got to say that they need to add fashion to the culture, because K-Slay K-Slay Butthouse are like one of the two to me who still go to the whole Dapper Dan look and really with the aesthetics you know. So I think at fashion, but I'm saying they need to add another element to hip-hop to the culture, because you got graffiti, you got the break-in. Fashion really needs to be there because without fashion we really wouldn't know what to wear or how to look or just how to really put ourselves together sometimes.
Speaker 5:I ain't gonna lie bro.
Speaker 4:The problem with fashion and hip-hop. Now it got two name brands as far as European brands. Right, hip-hop. Fashion was taking what poor people could wear and style it out. That's what. I mean fashion was taking what poor people could wear and style it out. That's what I mean. The thing is also our parts of hip-hop is no longer popular in American culture. Breaking is not popular here. It's popular overseas.
Speaker 2:Yep Asia.
Speaker 4:Graffiti is not popular here, it's popular overseas.
Speaker 1:Oh, nah, nah, nah. I gotta disagree with that. Graffiti is still graffiti and breaking is still popular. No, it's not it. No, I I'm gonna tell you, I just yo, last year, last year, I went to a graffiti event. It's, it's just real underground. And the reason if it's underground Hold on, hold on Cliff the reason why it's underground is because of the laws got real strict on graffiti artists.
Speaker 1:So, if they're out in the open, like they were back in the days, they'll be doing some real time. But they're having parties, they're having meet and greets. I went to one last year. There's a lot, a lot, a lot of old school dudes and young dudes coming up 19, 20, 25. But what I say is not popular.
Speaker 4:What I'm saying is I get the New York City laws changed. But New York City law was always there to try to prevent graffiti and niggas just didn't care.
Speaker 5:Nah but they cracked down a little bit harder, but they did because it had to grow into that. But I get what you're saying though, Cliff, because it's like you don't see it like how you used to see it, and that plays into Ron's point about the police cracking down on it.
Speaker 4:I was in.
Speaker 5:Tennessee, like. I was in Tennessee and they had a whole breaking contest out there. They was kids, this was kids, this was kids. They was like 20, 22. My grandmother's youngest son, he does that. He calls himself being a part of the culture. He clings to it because his mom's just from New York that's how strong it is His mom's just from the town. He tried to cling to it. He did it out there. He was raised out there, though, and he found some a little cruel. No, it's still. Culturally, it's still alive. Culturally On the big scale maybe not so much, but culturally it's still there.
Speaker 4:I would say it's small culturally. The reason why I say that is because every time back in the day we go to a spot, a club or a spot and a group of niggas just come in the spot and just start breakdancing and just move the whole crowd out the way, move the whole crowd right.
Speaker 5:That's a fact. No, no, no, no, no, that's a fact. It has to be. I get what you're saying. It has to be celebrating. It's not going to just be natural, it has to be an event specified for it. Then you'll see it, if you build it, they will come kind of a situation.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like also, like with the graffiti. Right, I'm going to just lay my last point and then we can move on. But the graffiti I'm not just talking about the trains and all of that. We used to see the graffiti in the clothing. We used to see it in the artwork. As far as like hip-hop artwork, we don't see it no more. Especially, we used to see it on albums. We don't even see it on albums like that, no more.
Speaker 5:We don't even see album artwork, no more, yeah. But you know who brought that? Oh that's crazy. You know who brought that, oh that's crazy. You know who brought that back? You know me and Westside. Westside got that.
Speaker 5:He got that one of my favorite songs too, with him and Stogall Big Ass Bracelet. And he got the. He got the graffiti dude hitting the world up for the visual, like so it's. That's why I love Westside man, because anything that you could talk about when it comes to hip-hop and it comes to your time period, he got in a bag right now. Yo Like him even. I don't care what nobody say. I think one of the most genius things I've ever seen an artist do is put hip-hop with wrestling bro, because all of us who came from that time we all big wrestling fiends. Like all of us. I don't care you if you grew up and you was a kid in the 80s, you was a wrestling fiend. You was got a favorite wrestler you know what I'm saying and he was able to incorporate wrestling and brought that, because that's a part of our culture.
Speaker 4:Andy Piazzi and Bad News Brown for me.
Speaker 5:Come on, man, this is the perfect record. Hit man for me. Man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Real quick, real quick. I want to close today's podcast. Thank y'all for coming out this evening. I really appreciate y'all. Man. Y'all always come with the heat. Yo man man, we added an addition to every podcast. Wait, hold on asshole of the week. We added that asshole. I gotta put that sound effects in there.
Speaker 5:Yo, mikey, that was a beautiful development and it came real natural Kudos.
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