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The Black Roundtable: Building Unity in Islamic and RBG Communities
"I'm Muslim, period. This is who I am, this is how I'm stepping." These powerful words from Brooklyn native Brother Fly Reef capture the transformative impact of Islamic faith in Black communities across America's urban landscapes.
The journey from Brownsville streets to brotherhood through Islam takes center stage as hosts Ron Brown and Mikey Fever welcome Fly Reef alongside Brother Magnetic and Victorious LLA for an illuminating conversation on Muslim identity, cultural preservation, and community transformation. Growing up Muslim in the Plaza (Noble Drew Ali Plaza), Fly Reef shares how Islamic faith provides much more than religious guidance—it offers dignity, purpose, and belonging for those who might otherwise feel lost.
Witness the profound discussion of how formerly violent neighborhoods like Chicago's O-Block have experienced dramatic reductions in crime as residents embrace Islam. "Those guys that was running around doing all that robbing and killing back in the day, a lot of them are all Muslim now. Good brothers," explains Fly Reef, highlighting the peace-building potential of faith communities in urban environments.
The conversation moves through fascinating territory as the panel explores cultural integration between Black Muslims and other Islamic groups, the controversy surrounding hip-hop in Islamic discourse, and the disciplined practices of Ramadan extending far beyond fasting. "It's not just about not eating," Fly Reef clarifies, "it's about controlling your mouth, controlling your anger, controlling your eyes."
Most significantly, this episode unveils the vision of the Black Roundtable movement—a bold initiative seeking to unite various Black leadership groups toward common goals of security, economic empowerment, and community development. As Brother Magnetic eloquently states, "We're b
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what's going on. Everybody out there is ron brown lmc, the people's fitness professional, alongside my co-host, mikey fever, and this is a new yorker's perspective. Hey, I just want to let everybody know. Don't forget to like, comment, share, subscribe, hit the bell notification so you make sure you get the uh podcast whenever it comes out. Everybody on spotify and and Apple and all that I want you to tell a friend. To tell a friend, to tell a friend. Get our numbers back up after taking a three-week break, you guys in attention spans, oh man, crazy 72 hours. If we take three weeks off, we lose the freaking audience. Yo, wow, that was deep right there 72 hours, they say.
Speaker 2:the average human being has attention span 72 hours.
Speaker 1:Wow, that must have been in recent times with the cell phone. Let's go right into it before we lose other people's attention. Let's go straight into today's podcast. Today is about the Muslim Dean Red, black and Green. Muslim Dean Red, black and Green. And let me just introduce the people on the panel. Today we have Victorious LLA on the check-in, we got Brother Magnetic on the check-in. And Brother, how do you pronounce your name? Brother Fly Reef, fly Reef, fly Reef. Okay, I thought you would pronounce it another way. Okay, fly Reef, fly Reef. I like that. Okay, so, brother Fly Reef, where are you from?
Speaker 4:Originally Brooklyn, new York, brownsville. Oh, okay, from the Ville All right, I From the. Ville, all right From the Ville.
Speaker 5:Never will.
Speaker 2:Feels good. I got a real needy with me Flatbush.
Speaker 1:Okay, yo, so let's talk about it. Being that today is about the Muslim Dean Red, black and Green, let's go with the first question how long has the Muslim community been in Brooklyn? Is it primarily black or no?
Speaker 4:Muslim been in Brooklyn for years. Man, even before I was born I started out being just black, but now it's gentrified, it's more different. You got Arabs, you got, you know you got a lot of Africans, west Indians, you know. They were there growing up too. So it's always been a melting pot, so it's always been a mixture of different Muslims. Downtown Brooklyn Bay Ridge growing up, that was like more adept Muslims that way, and like Best Eye Crown Heights, that was more African-American Muslims.
Speaker 1:Okay, now you sound like you have a bit of an accent, are you like, of Caribbean descent.
Speaker 4:No, I just be with a lot of foreigners so I'm like I can blend cultures. You know what I mean. Like I'm I'm a new yorker. You know we grew up as a malay empire. So I'm just a culture. I'm a cultural individual man gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, all right.
Speaker 1:So let's go into the second question. That was quick and nice and easy, all right. Um uh, uh. What are the unique qualities of the black Muslim experience?
Speaker 4:To me. It gave me a sense of identity, dignity and just, you know, to feel to belong to something more. So that's not like a gang, it's more so like peace and the brotherhood Cause. That's why I think a lot of Muslims join because of the brotherhood, the way they embrace you and the way it's peace. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Now, if you don't mind me, asking what your age range is in the early 40s.
Speaker 4:Late 30s.
Speaker 1:Oh so Mikey Fever? He's around our age, so that means that when you were in New York when the Damos went crazy in 93 and all of that- yeah, all that, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was in there. Yeah, so around that time were you Muslim.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I was. My mom converted when I was like five or six years old, bro, so I was raised Muslim. Oh, wow, and then it was like from public school I went straight to Islamic school Head first you know what I mean and then, like I said, I'm from Brownsville, so I was around that environment. I'm from the plaza. If everybody know about the plaza, I'm from the plaza.
Speaker 2:No, but you're Ali Plaza.
Speaker 4:No, but I'm from the. We call it the plaza. I'm from the plaza. Born and raised in the plaza, so you know what type of environment that is.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, so Noble Juali Plaza huh.
Speaker 4:Yep.
Speaker 1:So, being that it's Noble Juali, why didn't? Well, you said you were raised with your mom through Islam, but have you ever thought about Noble Juali, morish Science or anything like that? You ever thought about noble joe ali morris?
Speaker 4:science or anything like that and pertains, I've um, I've dabbled in it because me, I'm a guy that thirsts for knowledge. You know I like to have knowledge and understanding itself, so I've learned about it. But you know, that wasn't something like you know. Oh, this is like I didn't know that growing up, I didn't know who duke was growing up until I got older and I started studying and getting the knowledge i'm'm like OK, wow, they named this and I live here. You know what I mean. Everything started to connect.
Speaker 1:Right, you know he. You know he from New York when he says Duke, anybody, that's how you know they from New York. And he grew up in the 80s, 90s, mom Dukes Now let's go into the next one. Mom dukes, yeah, so now let's go into the next one. Okay, so what would the same? I think it's the same question. What are the unique qualities of being black Muslim?
Speaker 4:the black Muslim experience like the unique qualities like I said, I would just say like it's identity, you know.
Speaker 1:Identity.
Speaker 4:Yeah, identity, the brotherhood, you know, and just the feeling that they give you, you know, when you're around the brothers, like it's the brotherhood really. You know what I mean.
Speaker 5:Can I ask you a question?
Speaker 4:Sure go ahead.
Speaker 5:Well, I know within. When I first learned how important your name was and your real identity is your attribute or your Muslim name you took on that's the way I did the knowledge to Honorable Elijah Muhammad to come out of the names. I was God studying science, but Elijah told me to come out the name, so I was like, ooh, why? So within the Muslim culture, religion or school of thought, you change your name to an original language and to a characteristic or a trait within you, and my question to you is is that what you mean by identity?
Speaker 4:You said what do I mean by identity? Is that what you mean by identity? Uh-huh. You said what do I mean by identity?
Speaker 5:Is that what you mean by identity?
Speaker 4:No, I don't mean by the name? I mean identity, like guys that come from the street that don't have homes, and some people don't know who they are. You know what I'm saying. Even the dudes that's in the gangbang, they still feel lost, even when they in the gang. So when they take shahadah and they become Muslim, they get an identity. I'm Muslim, it's nothing else. You can't tell me. This is who I am, this is how I'm stepping. Now I'm Muslim, period. So that's what I meant by identity, not as far as your name or your attributes who you are basically yes, sir, you joined something positive.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Right? Well, we know it's more than joining something. It's our nature, but it's like. This is how you're going to respect me. This is who I am. This is how you're going to deal with this. Good, because that's important. Man, when we say identity, how do you identify?
Speaker 5:You know, because when you're within the truth, they're trying to pull you into that. Once you join the truth, no matter what state you come through or school you come through, you have to take on the identity of that, the divinity and the divinity, the identity of um, your character, your personality. That's what your real identity is, because it's an aspect or character trait that exists within every human being. So when elijah says that it's our nature, naturally you came here with traits and attributes and characteristics that you have to live out and manifest.
Speaker 5:One of the 99 attributes according to the Quran, even though there's an infinite amount of names that we can refer to the source as, because you can't limit the source, we try to define the most high and the Allah and the essence and idea we grasp and enrich. We ain't doing bad. We use mathematics and we navigate and write, but that's important name and identity. The identity, that's how we're going to be able to reach our people, our brothers, is they. We got to bring them into their true identity. That's our responsibility. Go ahead, brother.
Speaker 2:I got what they're saying, both of them basically saying the same thing from both sides of the spectrum. It's the identity of rebuilding yourself from what your people have endured through slavery, when you stripped away from your native tongue, your language, your identity and everything else. So through religion Islam as they put it you regain back your culture, your identity. The aspect of studying the principle of religion, in whatever group you part in, is going by living off the principles.
Speaker 5:Now another question is are you receiving that?
Speaker 4:Religion is a way of life, so when?
Speaker 5:you go out, there is a way of life. So when you have a way of, life.
Speaker 4:It gives you an identity.
Speaker 1:Right right Now, mike, you want to ask the next question.
Speaker 2:Yeah, definitely. What changes have you seen to the culture as a result of African, arab and Muslim integration?
Speaker 4:As far as the Islamic culture.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:People are knowing about different countries, different traditions, different customs. You got a lot of brothers going to Morocco. They're learning about the Moroccan culture. They're even marrying some Moroccans. That was like big back in the day. A lot of those go to Morocco and get a Moroccan sisters.
Speaker 4:That was like big back in the day. A lot of those shepherds go to Morocco and get a Moroccan wife, or they will go to Saudi. You know what I mean. So it's like different cultures being mixed and you're learning about other cultures and you know other traditions, which is a beautiful thing, and some of these become accustomed to you too. Like growing up in Brooklyn. It was certain Muslim restaurants that I ate at that I'm accustomed to you too. Growing up in Brooklyn, it was certain Muslim restaurants that I ate at that I got accustomed to that. I prefer eating instead of my own food, especially during Juma, on Fridays. It's like you know Juma, so I'm going to go to this Arab shop and eat here just on Fridays. You know what I mean and you start to like it. You start getting accustomed to the food, the traditions, the. You start getting accustomed to the food, the traditions, the clothes, the oils, just everything. I have a Somali wife. I'm getting accustomed to her East African ways.
Speaker 5:Wow.
Speaker 3:That's peace. That's beautiful. It's like a universal cycle where it's a lot of different types of people from a lot of different walks of life coming.
Speaker 4:Not to mention they bite, off us too, they bite off the drip, they bite off the style.
Speaker 5:They bite off the slang so it goes both ways.
Speaker 2:So, under the umbrella of Islam, I think, the victorious mic is muted.
Speaker 1:Hold on Vic. Yes, sir your microphone is muted.
Speaker 3:Hold on, vic, hold on, you're all still the same.
Speaker 1:Say that again.
Speaker 5:Well, we're still the same, no matter what part of planet Earth we raised in or we settled on, we're still melanated beings. Man One, we're still here in our lives. Cody Karanga says I made you nations of people so that you may know one. What the round table is is people who are different to teach you something else. Teach one, you grow. When you start, then you grow. Life is a school. You got many stages. Karanga said seek knowledge from the creator.
Speaker 1:Hold on a school. You got many stages. Alliance and seek knowledge from the cradle to the grave. Hold on one second. That background sound, that beep, beep, beep. That's messing it up a little bit.
Speaker 5:I'm getting off the elevator now, lord, pardon yourself. I gotta go up and down on the elevator. I'll take the steps, pardon yourself.
Speaker 2:It's all good he was mentioning. From what the brothers, both of them are saying, it's like under the umbrella of Islam there's no distinction, it's just different national ethnicity. But under that one umbrella of Islam, everyone breaks bread together. They feed off each other's culture Because, you know, islam could be different based on whatever part of the region you're at. You may do something different, but we're still under that umbrella of Islam. We add our own flavor to it.
Speaker 5:There are 24 scientists from all schools of thought and from all walks and all particular sciences and stations, 12 major and 12 minor. When we meet, that's the round table. It's the best knowers of all the sciences, of the original people. 23 scientists. I'm the 24th scientist. They're magnetic. They're the gods who know who they are.
Speaker 1:I have a question, fly Reef. What's up, brother, now, being that this is RBG and the Muslim Dean? What do you know about RBG Red, black and Green, marcus Garvey, that whole demonstration being a revolutionary?
Speaker 4:Basically what I learned about Marcus Garvey. He felt like everybody in America should go back to Africa and learn their roots.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 5:What do you think about that? Is that a question?
Speaker 4:I mean, I don't think everybody that's here is African American actually or came from Africa. I don't think all the black people here came from Africa Because, if you look back, some of us are mixed with English, some of us are mixed with Irish, so I don't think that we all came from Africa as far as when we came to America-wise. You know what I mean.
Speaker 5:Not that we came, but that we should go back, or that we should go somewhere, not going back to Africa particularly, but going back to ourselves, governing ourselves yeah, I believe we should do that and we can do that here.
Speaker 4:We don't have to go to Africa to do that here we don't need to go back to Africa. To be honest, they don't even want us out there okay, right go over there.
Speaker 5:I'm still with the negative. Well, look, look, I'm going to interject on that.
Speaker 1:The reason why I got to interject on that is because I communicate with a good amount of Africans. I'm going to say that and they it's not. They don't want you to be there. They actually want you to go there. They want you to invest in their country and in their land. They welcome you with open arms in certain countries, In certain countries, You're right.
Speaker 4:I mean my wife is. Somali brother. My wife is Somali brother. Like I'm in the East African community. I'm in the West African community In Atlanta. I chill with a lot of West Africans. Now I'm in Seattle and I'm chilling with a lot of East Africans, so I've been through the whole African spectrum. So in those countries, as an American, they're going to tax you way more than they tax their own people. They're not going to see you as an equal as their own people. So why would you go there? Go there to visit.
Speaker 2:That happens to me when I went to Haiti. They have a perspective. Should I say a preconceived notion that if you're coming from the States that you have it. That's the fairytale they owe? People were sold.
Speaker 4:They want that bag. I agree.
Speaker 3:I think what we got to find, we got to draw to the black round table the right type of people from the continent and from the Caribbean. You feel me the?
Speaker 4:right ones, because there's colorism everywhere, bro.
Speaker 3:There's colorism everywhere, and then it's going to be 5%, 10% and 85%, and we want the 5%, the civilized ones, not the uncivilized ones.
Speaker 5:That's the roundtable. When you take the 5% the knowledge bill degree, the knowledge bill degree, no knowledge equality, lose the 5% of the poor part of the planet Earth. One of the degrees within our nation. It says the 5% is collective group of people, not just one. What niggas stuck on now? Oh, we're not nigga, you're not, it's a whole bunch of niggas Not besides you, the.
Speaker 3:Masons, the Muslims, the scientists the collectors for example those who don't treat them just as any choir those who know and those who teach, no matter what walk of life you're from. That's what we're doing here.
Speaker 4:I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1:Let's go to the next one. How do you feel about various sects defining hip-hop as haram?
Speaker 4:I mean, as we know, muslim is haram. I understand that, but I believe it's a gift from God. You know what I mean and like I was telling Magnetic, you know like Wait, hip-hop.
Speaker 1:You said hip-hop or Muslim Hip-hop, hip-hop.
Speaker 4:Like music, music period, music period Yep, yep, but like I was telling Magnetic the youth. I don't care where they from, what region they from, they where they from, what region they from. They're not looking up to the sheikhs and the imams, they're looking up to the artists and the rappers. So you got brothers like Kevin Gates. You got brothers like Rallo. You got brothers like Lil Durk. That's bringing people to the fold of Islam just off of their music and off of how they're moving.
Speaker 4:You know what I'm saying. So I think it's a both side. And then, from what I'm hearing, you have sheikhs that can prove that music is not haram, as people think it is. But a lot of people they put culture into this deen. And when you put culture into this deen, you give the wrong impression and you give the wrong message. You give the wrong message. You understand what I'm saying. And our Prophet Muhammad told us not to mix culture with Dean or to mix traditionalism with this religion, because it dilutes it.
Speaker 4:The young boys not looking up to the shakes and the emails, they're looking up to the rappers. So if the rappers is talking about the dean, they taking shahada off of that. So I just think you know allah, he's gonna use you any way he can and you don't know what his plan is okay okay, I read a joint where they said Muhammad had a group of sahabs, or you know, they hung out with him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he said they was all poets and they used to spit poetry and they used to go back and forth they call it nasheed, so when, I tell people I'm doing music they be like you should do, Nasheed.
Speaker 4:Nasheed is not for me.
Speaker 3:I mean, it's just cultural. I think it's just the same thing that his sahab was doing, but it's put in an urban context.
Speaker 4:But then if you look at it, a lot of these Muslims. They might not like hip-hop, but their culture, music they're listening to. Their culture, music they're listening to and I'm seeing it with my own eyes. Now I want to ask you brother.
Speaker 1:Mikey Fever, you go first, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's why you know what you're saying. As far as the music being haram and you're saying culture, it's like, as they say, the 5athers and the Saints and other groups say you must build on the lessons right, be scientific with it, do the knowledge. Water, in any form, whether it's rain, sleet or snow, is water. You get what I'm saying. The substances stay the same. It's the intention of what you put into it to add. It's what flavor you add into it. So to call it Haram it just took a different form, like the Quran itself, is poetic. You know what I'm saying. So we can't take it.
Speaker 5:Where did that word Haram originate from. I mean these concepts that we subscribe to. Trying to use the English language, any language, most languages and a lot of the versions of the Quran have been re-translated, watered down. I see Yusuf Ali and Muhammad of Khoranga. Their versions were pretty much accurate. After that it got watered down.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I grew up on Yusuf Ali, so I can concur with what you're saying.
Speaker 5:Right.
Speaker 4:Where do these words come from?
Speaker 5:I don't think black people are behind a lot of these words and restrictions that are put in religion. I think the devil is 10% behind it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and then that's when they came out with the transliteration it's in the religion.
Speaker 5:Christianity teaches you don't mess with astrology, don't mess with gemstones because that's magic.
Speaker 1:What's that Vic? Vic, hold on one second G Fly Reef. I didn't hear what you said. Say what you said.
Speaker 4:No, I said that's when, I think, when the Yusuf Ali edition of the Quran came. That's when they came out with the transliteration, when they mixed Arabic and English together for those who can't really like read Arabic. So they did the transliteration.
Speaker 1:Yeah, ok, ok, ok, all right, let's let's go into the next question. Besides moral enrichment and religious anchor, what would you say Islam has given our black community yesterday and what does it give us today?
Speaker 4:I would say yesterday, islam, I don't know. I would think peace. I would think peace on a certain aspect. Those guys that was running around doing all that robbing and killing back in the day, a lot of them are all Muslim now. Good brothers.
Speaker 1:So that's where the people and the community gave the community peace.
Speaker 4:It gave the environment peace, and what it's doing for us today, I think it's changing lives too.
Speaker 1:Can you give me an example? I can give you a few examples of what I'm seeing right now.
Speaker 4:Okay, like in Chicago O-Block, O-Block, all them boys was wild. Now they all Muslim. You know what I mean. So that took down the violence in that neighborhood took down, the crime in that neighborhood and it's putting a form of unity and peace in that neighborhood took down the crime in that neighborhood and it's put in a form of unity and peace in that neighborhood.
Speaker 3:And definitely better foods, you know, and more family environment.
Speaker 4:Yeah, family environment. You can go outside now and you shouldn't worry about gunshots, no more.
Speaker 3:That's huge.
Speaker 1:Yes, sir, yes sir, yes sir. Now, okay, so, being that that was quick and easy, man, You're straight shooting it. Now, as far as unity is concerned, how do you see being that 5% don't necessarily deal with Islam the way you know? Someone from the out Islam religion would deal with that. Moors don't deal with that the same way either.
Speaker 4:The Islamic community coming together with other people in the community like 5% Moors, whoever, we are all children of Adam brother, no matter what denomination, no matter what sect you identify with. We are all children of Adam and we all come from Allah. So when you are Muslim, that have that type of understanding, you're not going to look at oh, this brother this way, this, like the brother at my job, like this brother right here. He got Amin Allah. A lot of Sunni brothers, they criticize him about that. But me, I know knowledge, understanding with itself. I'm from Brooklyn, I'm from that area, so I'm like, oh, they don't know, but I know, brother, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:So I just think, like you have to have a different mindset in order to be able to come together and, uh, inshallah, some brothers will, some brothers won't now those, those brothers who, who have an issue with what he has on his shirt, or uh, not what is on his shirt now, but uh, what he had on his shirt, I guess yeah, I mean, that's, that's what he wears as far as his name tag.
Speaker 4:So, we see that every day when the brother come to work.
Speaker 1:Okay, cool. So now, as far as the people who criticize him, would you say they're more foreigners.
Speaker 4:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 5:Absolutely. They're not tapped in you know. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Now are they foreigners and older.
Speaker 4:Yeah. There we go Well there were some young boys that came in. On two of those I would just say they're foreigners.
Speaker 1:Okay, so like what region of the globe, like will we talk about Africa?
Speaker 3:The continent from Africa. Yeah, oh, in my country nobody can be called Allah. I'm like, well, you're not in your country, you know Right.
Speaker 1:That answer right there, hold on.
Speaker 3:It's a whole different world.
Speaker 1:It's a whole different world. Now see, this is the thing that we're going to probably encounter as the years to come. Now I'm going to tell five percenters, I'm going to tell more. I'm going to tell everyone to make sure you preserve your culture the way it is. Black Panther Party, whoever Preserve your culture the way it is, black Panther Party, whoever Preserve your culture the way it is, don't dilute it, change it right, because other cultures are going to come in and at least if we preserve the culture that we created, then they can learn from us, we can learn from them and we can show you Preserve their traditions.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:They preserve their culture and they preserve their traditions Right.
Speaker 4:They preserve their culture and they preserve their traditions.
Speaker 3:And cherish them. All nations are made up of different cultures, man many different cultures. That's what makes a strong nation. Even in America we got French we got German English Exactly.
Speaker 4:They don't understand hip-hop because that's our culture. Right Black culture is made. I don't.
Speaker 5:I've been waiting for you to say that. That's what I want to tap into you, gotta give me a little minute, all time to it there you go all time to it so hip hop is our culture?
Speaker 1:oh yeah, as far as hip hop being our culture. Man, oh yeah, as far as hip-hop being our culture. Who were your favorite MCs growing up?
Speaker 4:Come on, Biggie Nas Pac, I knew you was going to say Biggie man, it's okay, I like you, brooklyn. Who's your favorite?
Speaker 2:My favorite. I'll start off with Pac Nas Big, big J, tragedy Gaddafi yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, yeah, that's what's up. I thought you, but you got two Brooklyn dudes on there, so yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know what?
Speaker 5:Y'all youngsters, that's as far back as y'all can go. Yeah, yeah, who's as y'all can go? I say Slick Rick. I say Slick Rick. Nah man, I was Kid Dynamite in 1979. I made a rap song. I was in a rap group in 1979.
Speaker 2:We won Take it over.
Speaker 4:We gotta hear that.
Speaker 1:We gotta hear that.
Speaker 2:Say that over.
Speaker 1:For sure Now, as far as growing up in Brownsville as a Muslim in the Muslim community. Now, at that time because you were a little younger than me, so I for sure guarantee you saw the Ansar law community who then morphed into the Nuwabian Nation, dr Z York and all that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, of course I've seen all that, but I mean I really didn't know what that was. You know what I mean Because I identify as Sunni, but I've seen it. I think they had a temple over there on Mother Gaston, Like Mother Gaston in Saratoga.
Speaker 2:They did, and on Bushwick Ave.
Speaker 4:Come on, you know what I'm talking about, I know you've seen it in Georgia though, Lord Family. Nah, not really.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow.
Speaker 4:I see the FTO centers in Georgia but, I, ain't seen no Nuwabi in center yeah they deep down there.
Speaker 3:I met a gang of them down there and they kind of took over Georgia. I know they deep.
Speaker 4:But I never seen a center because one of my homeboys he was talking to a girl that was Nuwabiabi and he was like she's Muslim. And I'm like what Muslim is she? And he was like Nuwabi and I was like what's that? I'm always looking for knowledge itself. So I started studying. I'm like, oh, she is Okay.
Speaker 1:Now, as far as being Muslim and self-defense, I always wondered with that. So I know in the nation of Islam they are not allowed to carry weapons and things like that. They could only use their hands and things. I know in the 5% nation it is what it is. You know what I'm saying Now. In a Muslim religion, as far as self-defense is concerned, what is prohibited and what's allowed.
Speaker 2:Taya Campbell.
Speaker 4:You got Taya. I said Taya Campbell, so we wouldn't know.
Speaker 1:Oh, so it's a rap.
Speaker 4:We wouldn't know, yeah, we wouldn't know. You violate, we demonstrate. You heard?
Speaker 2:I knew a.
Speaker 4:Black.
Speaker 2:Panther. I know a Black Panther. Rest in peace. Raven Harris from Brooklyn, I don't know if you remember.
Speaker 3:If you've heard of him, he's close to me.
Speaker 2:He was a, he's a former Black Panther and you know war veteran and Islamic brother. He always said that, taya Campbell, his philosophy was yeah, I'm going to pray, but I pray and be weary. Also, keep my weapon close by.
Speaker 4:That's how the brothers pray when you're backed up when they're behind the wall we're praying. Then we got other brothers watching our back while we're praying. It's like we're always at war. We're still shakes. Yeah, you're already, I know bro.
Speaker 5:I did it 15 years and I didn't just go to prison, I was in Supermax with lifers. They were motherfuckers who would never get out. They laced me, started out in the boot camps but I ended up in the. I was going to either die in that motherfucker or transform my life and certain Muslims. There was this old man. He was a Muslim, he looked like God, he had pretty skin shining, he had gray hair, he was doing life. He was a murderer and they moved me in his cell because I made a choice to change. So I told my brother. I said man, you weird, fuck that. You ain't no broody and weird as shit. Man, I'm fucking with you, no more.
Speaker 5:I moved out. I moved out in a cell with him. So they moved me in with this old Muslim. He was a killer, he was thorough, but he was a Muslim man. He talked to me like I was talking to God. I was maybe 20, early 20s. He was talking to God. I was maybe 20, early 20s.
Speaker 4:He was talking to me and it was like I was in the room with God, masha'allah.
Speaker 5:He got me on. He was the one that sparked me and got me to really thinking. He put positive energy on me. It's a way of life. Being is a way of life of God. Your path is to unite others.
Speaker 2:You gotta be a Mujahideen. You gotta be a Mujahideen.
Speaker 4:Mujahideen? Yeah, of course.
Speaker 5:That was my real first contact with Islam, but not the watered-down funny style Black man who was a master of it, who was thorough you know how prison do it preserves. You See, this is what a lot of people don't know. People in prison are special. We were sent there on assignment by the divine order to come out because the divine order got to get your attention and sit your crazy ass down. Sit you down, yeah Right.
Speaker 1:I agree with that. I'm going to say this to the audience I don't advocate nobody going to prison. I don't advocate nobody. Hold on God, hold on God. I don't advocate nobody going to prison. Young people listening to this podcast right now no, we're not trying to go to prison. If you can avoid it, avoid it. You know what I'm saying. If you can't, then it is what it is.
Speaker 4:I gotta go. You guys got any more questions?
Speaker 1:I just want to ask about this, as far as we already asked about right now you're doing Ramadan.
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 1:You're doing Ramadan right now. Alright, now, as far as Ramadan is concerned, you're able to eat when the sun is down, right?
Speaker 4:No. So we we eat like before the sun rises, like in the wee hours of the morning, like around four or five, but we got to stop when that white line go across the sky. So right before daybreak we got to stop eating. And it's not just about not about eating, not eating, it's about controlling your mouth, controlling your anger, controlling your eyes. It's a very disciplined thing. I don't want people to just think that it's about eating, because it's not about just not eating. You can't listen to music Anything. That's gonna break your fast and mess up your spiritual journey. You have to neglect it until the sun set and you know you break your fast and then you pray and then you eat your meal.
Speaker 1:That's how you gotta do it okay okay, okay so now you said control your eyes. Now the reason why I'm bringing that up is because when I was a part of the new Black Panther Party some years back, we were like on soldier time the whole time. Right, I was security. We were taught that when a woman walks by, you can't look at them, you can't look behind them.
Speaker 4:We're supposed to lower our gaze, but see, we get that one look. We get that one look After you get that one look, it's a wrap. Your eyes got to go on the floor. You take that one good look, after that one good look, it's a wrap. Your eyes got to go on the floor. That's a rule to live by right there? Yeah, because everything start with your eyes, the desires Everything start with the eyes Indeed, indeed, indeed.
Speaker 1:Now I mean, that's all the questions I have right now for you. Brother Islam McDean, you know RBG. I wanted to ask some RBG questions. You know we already asked those questions.
Speaker 3:We're going to have the brother come back again and definitely come, because it's the roundtable. He definitely belongs at the black roundtable. You know what I mean. When I first told him about it. He was like man I definitely want to come sit in with y'all, I love knowledge and understanding.
Speaker 4:man, I love it. I thirst for knowledge. You brothers seem very interesting and I like this show I'm supporting. I'm here, I'm rocking with y'all and y'all from New York, you already know the vibe.
Speaker 1:You already know the vibe Yo yo. So, man, I don't know if you. How much time do you have? Fly Reef.
Speaker 4:I'm actually out, but you got one more question and I'll answer it.
Speaker 1:I'm actually out, but you got one more question, I'll answer it. All right, mike, do you got something? Because I got something, I'll let you go.
Speaker 2:No, no, I'm good, I'm just enjoying them from the brothers' perspective.
Speaker 1:Okay, got you Now fasting, now, after your fast is done. Now, let's say, if you're working, you got to eat though. So what are you doing? You getting up in the middle, you know, in the morning, three o'clock in the morning four o'clock in the morning to eat?
Speaker 4:No, so if you're working depends on the shift. What do you mean Like morning shift, afternoon shift?
Speaker 1:What shift are you talking?
Speaker 4:No, I'm saying just like let's say, if you got to be to work by eight o'clock in the morning, so you're gonna get up anyway. At that five in the morning you're gonna get up. We call that sahur because after you, after you eat, you got to make fadja, the morning prayer, so you're gonna be up anyway. This is, this is this is what we do during ramadan. You train yourself.
Speaker 1:So you're gonna be up anyway, or you're gonna miss the horn, you're gonna be hungry boy either way, yeah, you know what I did Ramadan, just to kind of like experience it one year. For me it was easy, but I don't know if I did it right. I don't know if I did it right, but I mean thank you for coming out, really appreciate you, brother.
Speaker 4:I appreciate you, you brothers, for having me yo Magnetic next time you got a door in the day while I'm free, cause I don't even wanna leave right now. But I gotta get back to this platform, man yes, sir.
Speaker 3:Well, now you're a part of the Black Roundtable family, you know. That's why I wanted to, you know, introduce you to the brothers family cause you got that universe I appreciate it, man, it's all love man D D. Plus, we want to get some bars from you. He got bars, bars, bars.
Speaker 4:I got that next time it's Ramadan. I'm not doing no music, you know that huh Okay, I got you. I'm saying next time.
Speaker 1:Oh, it went out.
Speaker 2:I think it went out Connection.
Speaker 1:What happened there? Where did Vic?
Speaker 2:go. I think they both. Vic is like he's moving around a lot. Oh, there he is.
Speaker 4:Yeah, my fault, I got a little cold, but after Romano I'll come back and give you a whole 24.
Speaker 1:Okay, If you got any music, man, send it to us, man, mp3. Mp3. And MP3. Mp3. And we'll play it on the show.
Speaker 4:All right, I'm going to send it to Magnetic.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:All right, peace. Hold it down, man. Good luck with your show, man. Thank you so much. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1:Peace, peace, yo. So let's get back on the show. Now. That was peace. Thank you for bringing the brother on Right now we're talking about the black round table. Now we're talking about the Islamic Dean, rbg, being that you know the brother, the brother. I'm not no disrespect or anything like that, but the brother is not really thinking about RBG so much. You know what I'm saying, like red, black and green in a sense.
Speaker 3:Well, what I was saying? I was saying, like, what is his experience as a black person, being a Muslim? You see what I'm saying? Because he definitely is a black. You can tell he's a brother from the shit, but he's a Muslim. You know what I mean. So it's like, wow, he made it to a very positive aspect of himself through his slum.
Speaker 5:So I'm like, okay, you know, that's what brought him to the house of mine, he'll be a great influence, to his community, his peers, for his righteousness.
Speaker 3:He loved being black, but he loved Islam too, and he didn't put the two together. Usually, you see a brother. He'd be Muslim. He'd be a brother, but he'd be trying to be Arab. This brother is not. He ain't one of them. In fact, he made the be trying to be an Arab. This brother is not. He ain't one of them. In fact, he made the Arabs want to be like us.
Speaker 1:I didn't hear you Say that again. I didn't hear you.
Speaker 5:Great ass man. You see, when a brother becomes Islamic.
Speaker 3:He turns into an Arab. But he made the Arabs and the folks who want to be Arab want to be black. It's like uh-oh.
Speaker 2:That black. You know it's like oh yeah, that narrative. That narrative is weird, like you know. People feel like you know they get the beard, they get that little spot on their forehead. And I'm gonna keep it real. I took my shahada at 14 right and I didn't ever stop to behave in such a manner to walk around, you know, with slippers on and you get what I'm saying that notion that they picked up, that's been pushed on to them.
Speaker 2:I'm like, like, no, it's just based on your actions. The context of your character. How you behave will determine if you're a real Muslim or not. Not you speaking Arabic, and you know, carrying on with the aesthetics, that's not Islam, right there.
Speaker 5:That's false. But that is our culture, though Dress and attire is our culture, but thinking in, acting as somebody else is not our culture, the Arabs, it's not even they wearing it. Because it's our culture. They're wearing it because they're wearing long beards, because the Arabs wear long beards. That's what I was talking about earlier. Within these schools of thought, the 10% who indoctrinate people into the way they want them to be and think, and so they can make slaves out of them, rob them so they can live in luxury up to ignorance.
Speaker 3:There's Islam and religion and there's Islam as a culture and then there's Islam as the science. 5% of us we specialize in Islam, the science and the culture. We don't's Islam as the science. Five percent of us, we specialize in Islam, the science and the culture. We don't deal with the religion. I mean, I like that. I don't think the religion could exist without the culture of Islam or without the science of Islam.
Speaker 1:Right, exactly, exactly so. Now, as far as the Black Roundtable man, I want to let everyone know the Black Roundtable will be on the regular right. So the Black Roundtable, we're going to have Muslims on here, we're going to have RBG on here. We're going to have. You know everyone.
Speaker 3:We're going to have Greeks. We're going to have some Masons? Yeah, people from all walks of life.
Speaker 1:Right Now the next one I would love to have on here.
Speaker 5:We need to have the streets on here too, man. We need the streets, bro.
Speaker 3:Now that brother who was just on, he's the streets now. He's the Muslim.
Speaker 5:He's the Muslim.
Speaker 1:Hold on, hold on hold on the streets is already here, so let's do that. You know what?
Speaker 5:I'm saying Okay, the streets is already here. Okay, I'm up with that dude. Yes, sir.
Speaker 1:Now, but if you're talking about. If you're talking about, like you know, the Army, if you know what I'm saying, you know what I mean. If we're talking about the Army, you know what I mean. These and all of that we could bring those on too.
Speaker 1:I don't know if y out Y'all know what I'm saying right, I know what you're talking about Bees and seeds, yeah, and genes, exactly so we could bring those up too. I don't mind that. Now, one thing I want to make sure that is understood is that the Blackground Table is the space where we're really trying to bridge the gap between the communities and move. This is not just a podcast. We're trying to figure out a way where we can move more with action from here. From here, what do we do next? You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:We're going to have the brothers from the Black Panther Party coming. Why do I? Oh, my God man, this is going to be a part of the show. That's funny, the brother name man. Why is going to be a part of the show? That's funny. The brother name man. Why can't I get his name? Brother Nehemiah Nehemiah, brother Nehemiah Nehemiah, brother Nehemiah. We need Brother Nehemiah on Absolutely, because he's the younger generation. Brother Nehemiah on. We got Victorious. We gotah on. We got Victorious. We got Magnetic. We got Fly Reef from the Muslim side. Now, as far as action, what is what would be the Black Roundtable's focus of action overall?
Speaker 3:Well, we definitely want to see everybody as possible.
Speaker 5:Go ahead man.
Speaker 3:We definitely want to see everybody that we can, as possible, get to training the security training security of the first world training, you know security training so they can secure their neighborhoods and also get some change, some money, in their pocket. That's kind of one of the first fundamental things we wanted to do. Go ahead, go ahead Big. I didn't mean to cut you off God.
Speaker 5:No, that's it. That's the first. The whole thing with the roundtable. First thing we have to do is we have to secure ourselves, secure the roundtable, secure our communities. The first order is security. First law of nature, self-preservation.
Speaker 5:So, securing an idea, energy, yeah, that's it. But we also want people to have more than just talk and philosophy and their belief systems. We need professionals, man, People with mastered disciplines that our people could benefit from and utilize, like. I've been in business for almost 25 years now and I provide a service that benefit people, original people, where they need it the most. So we need people at the round table who have healing in their wings, like the Honorable Elijah Muhammad said in the book of Ezekiel said that all the teachers, leaders and guides need to have healing To be able to heal the people. Man, we need more than just talkers. We need people who have a positive ideal, a skill or a trait that can bring to the ground table so we can support each other in these services, because the best service is to heal people, help people where they need it the most.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 3:Correct and when you remember you're putting something back together, you're putting an idea that's been separated, dissected, divided, back together, re-member. So there will be people who are a part of, you know we'll say, the black roundtable movement, but then there'll be people who are members and these are the people who really do stuff. If you look at my, my brother vic, he got on a porno joint because he does security also so he's.
Speaker 3:He's a contributor to the safety of the community. If you look at what brother sharif had on, he had on a security uniform too. He does security too, because he's helping to secure the neighborhood, the community that he lives in. And this is a very important thing security of the idea, but security of where we are at, so our communities are safe.
Speaker 2:That's very important right there, because without security you cannot thrive. You cannot set the environment that will allow you to thrive. Once you have security in place, the next thing you do is have a group focus on doing some agriculture, work, education and everything else, with the perimeter secured, otherwise, anything can come in and anything can be taken out.
Speaker 3:If I ask anybody here, no one wants to live in a community that's insecure, right, yeah, see, nobody bothers. Yeah, yeah, see, nobody bothers you for that. Nobody wants to be in a house that's insecure. Go ahead, g. I didn't mean to cut you off.
Speaker 1:So the first plan of action is security right Security company. So you focus on not only security but also finance as well. That could fund, that could fund the organization Well because we got, we got plenty of finance.
Speaker 3:Where we're not able to do a lot of times is to, you know, move it around in a way where it doesn't crush one person. The business. It'd be so heavy It'd crush the messenger, it'd crush Noble Drew Ali. The way it isn't evenly distributed, that means that the idea was not thought out correctly. The idea ain't supposed to crush one person, man. It's supposed to make the burden easier for everyone. You know we're talking Right, Indeed.
Speaker 1:Indeed one, you know.
Speaker 4:Now we're talking right Right indeed, indeed.
Speaker 1:Do you guys have any kind of literature like the 5% Nation has 120, the 5% Nation has supreme mathematics, alphabets, and then 120?
Speaker 3:I would say just go to the page and look at the seven cities of America. That really gives you a really good idea of the direction that we're moving in and the type of entities that we need futuristic ideas, you know.
Speaker 1:Wait, say that again. Is it on Instagram?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's on 16 Black Meccas. It's on my YouTube. You go to the 16 Black Meccas and and you look up the 16, the Seven Cities of America, pardon me, you can watch and it kind of just walks you through the idea of where we're at as a people, the necessary futuristic entities that we need to form so that we can make sure that we go into the future the right way.
Speaker 1:Now let me say this Now, how would a person, let's say, if they're listening in right now and they want to be a part of the black round table and they live in, let's say, the UK, how can they? How does that work?
Speaker 3:I mean, if they want to just be a movement person, you know they listen, of course, and they're part of the round table. They get the ideas soak up, observe, observe. But if they want to be a member, they need to be somebody that's a practitioner of some type of service or good that serves our people.
Speaker 1:You know you see what I'm saying. Yeah, for sure. Now let's say, if they do you know, maybe do what I do or whatever like that, right, you know which, I do a few things. But let's say, if they do what I do and they live in the UK, how can they be, being that it's far from Seattle.
Speaker 3:Well, what they can do, they should have their own round table of people that's magnets, right In the UK, and then maybe we can possibly do a show together. But they should be doing what we're doing here on the ground in the UK. We gotta do this here.
Speaker 5:We gotta do that over there.
Speaker 3:See, because we're building the Black World Civilization Period Period, and when we say the Black World Civilization, that means that we have so many brilliant ideas that come from so many different places we want. Hey, man, you can't tell me, the civil rights movement was not spawned or inspired by the African independence movement, right? Dr John Henry Clark's talking about it all the time? There's a Black Panther Party in India. So whenever we plug into that Black world movement, we get so many new ideas and perspectives on dealing with white supremacy, on dealing with reality, on dealing with our lives. But when we try to micro-nationalize ourselves, you shrink yourself. Size matters. I'm not uh-uh. We didn't get to size to shrink, we want to keep. You know, the lessons told me. We didn't get to size to shrink, we want to keep. You know, the lessons told me, friendships and all walks of life but, I don't necessarily want everybody to be my friend.
Speaker 3:The people I want is to be people. That's a alike not like, but a alike meaning that what I'm doing here they're doing there, so it's almost like I'm there right, I like what you said multiplying the ideal.
Speaker 5:That's what the round table does right, so real quick.
Speaker 1:As far as the round table, do you guys, like I said, you guys don't have like any literature, you don't have maybe a website or like a central place where people can find out about this.
Speaker 3:Well, family to me. I'm going to be straight laced. I write a lot. I have a lot of stuff that I wrote. We're going to be coming out with a periodical very soon called the Eye of the Panther, coming out the end of the year, so a lot of stuff that we're talking about on here people are going to be able to read it in transcription, in words written out. You know, okay, but realistically, yeah, you got to go from this, what we're doing, video to the written word. This is more magnetic than the written word. Man, yeah it, yeah, it is Social media. It's way more people watch this than read books. That's why there's way more people on this than there is in the library, because you can fit more people on their phone than you can in the library.
Speaker 5:This ain't no coerced dance this show.
Speaker 3:You feel me. So we want to take people from social media where they're already at. Everybody got a phone reading to text right, and we got plenty of stuff to read, plenty. You know. Once again, the periodical is going to be called the eye of the panther. It's going to be digital and it's going to be written. You know, and there's a lot of stuff that uh needs both needs to be digital and it needs to be written, so people need to look at it and people need to read it, you know all right well yeah, have a reference.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, you know it's uh, my experience in the new black panther party. I'm going to tell you this man, this is no disrespect to no other group. Love every other group and everybody who uh, has been around me and affiliated with me in some kind of way in these groups.
Speaker 1:But I'm gonna tell you this, the new Black Panther Party out of New York and New Jersey, their program Divina Law, I'm going to say specific names Divina Law, shakashikor, divina Law more specifically, because Divina Law changed my whole mindset when I went out there to, I think, trenton, new Jersey set. When I went out there to, I think, trenton, new Jersey, and I sat down and not only experienced the movement, the organization, but we had to sit down and watch a number of videos, and that's where I really found out about COINTELPRO. The video that he showed me was. It changed my life and I'm going to say those videos made me who I am today and that's why this podcast is what it is and why I will continue to do this work, no matter what, in regards to whom or what.
Speaker 3:yes, sir, and we thank that brother for doing that work out there. We definitely want to get him on the black round table, to you know, put his belt in, because he got a strong belt, because it's not just talk. This man really lives it, you know, and you're living proof of you know what he's taught, what he's lived.
Speaker 1:Exactly, exactly. Devon Allah has not only worked with the new black Panther party, he's, I think, he ran for city council or something like that. Yeah, man.
Speaker 3:Very well known through many zones, right? Yes, sir.
Speaker 1:Yes sir, he's also a part of the bartender's.
Speaker 3:That's what I said. Okay, me too. Yeah, we brought him out here too Giant, and he made me one of the local representatives. So we brought him out here too Giant, and he made me one of the local representatives. So, hey, I think all of us kind of have that in common Culture, asiatic culture, fitness and a little bit of street.
Speaker 5:Right right the G-code man.
Speaker 1:Hey. Vic, I want you to go one time and go in on the G code.
Speaker 5:Well, man, the game is sold. My toe man.
Speaker 1:Hold on G, hold on G. We need bullet points. You got to break it down for the people. You got to break that G code down.
Speaker 5:Well, it's basically for black men who are strong in culture, not the street version, not what the version most people thinking about. That's the real G cult. That's the Jakub cult that you fucked up and you're tricking and you're fucking your life up. This is the cult that God called right right, right now the G cult.
Speaker 1:like I said, fucking your life up. This is the code that God called Amen. Right, right, right Now the G-code. Like I said, I want one time we just do a whole podcast on the G-code, because I think the G-code is really missing. I remember you talking about the G-code on one podcast and another guy kind of misconstrued what you were saying, but I knew exactly what you were talking about.
Speaker 5:Well, man, only thoroughbreds real recognize reals. You're going to learn this sooner or later, brother, in your professional careers.
Speaker 2:I say it's.
Speaker 5:They be faking the move. Man, energy, vampires, a lot of people, they're not really.
Speaker 2:It's the frequency. You know what it is.
Speaker 5:The round table is going to bring certain people together. That's going to do the shit, man. Make it move faster further, faster, get shit done. There's going to be a lot of weeds in the garden. Man, we got to weed our garden. Really got to secure the round table to cipher man. You're taking the best of all the groups and bringing them together. There's gonna be a lot of salty weirdo shit behind that Weirdo niggas, A lot of haters All-time high bruh. I'm just saying, man, this is real.
Speaker 2:This is why I want to add the Cointelpro program wouldn't work if we didn't have monkeys amongst us, because that's the problem. We could have the unity, but it's always one that's willing to sell a brother out. So that's why I say I can't blame the white man completely, because I'm going to say it and some people get offended. It was a white, it was a bigoted white man's thought to assassinate Malcolm X, but it was a nigger's finger that pulled that trigger. There you go. There's a lot of power within the organization. You know we got to speak about that. You know what I'm saying. Some dudes will talk about that, just like the conscious community. They have so many debates and bouts about what came first, the chicken or the egg, what will work, and they fail to see that, nigga, you're still in the same position that you in. I don't give a fuck Where's the best place for the devil to hide.
Speaker 1:Hold on, hold on, hold on. Y'all forget. Listen, I'm going to say this on the show. Y'all forget. We cannot curse on this show. We get strikes and all of that I keep forgetting.
Speaker 2:We cannot.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean? Yeah, I keep forgetting.
Speaker 2:It's my fault, but it's just that I love to see my people, but I hate to see us do the nonsense. I hate it with a passion, because I'm like, damn, all we're going to do is sit down and cry. White man did this to us. Elijah Muhammad said this no more. Drew Ali said that. Allah said this All right, great, they're not here, no more. What are we doing then? They're not here no more, they're not here anymore here they are, and I'm here.
Speaker 3:We're here and.
Speaker 5:God's here, so they here.
Speaker 1:Hold on, hold on, Pardon me, pardon me, pardon me, I'm not no disrespect, because I love them all. I'm just saying right now, in this current time, 2025, let's keep it real None of them are not here right now physically in our presence. Who's here physically in our presence? Us? We got to rely on us. There you go. I'd rather say, I'd rather say yo, Vic said this because guess what you?
Speaker 3:could go back and ask him Yo.
Speaker 1:Vic, did you say that?
Speaker 3:Hell yeah, that part, that part. Bro, there you go. Real chill. Give yourself applause for that one man, come on.
Speaker 5:Yeah, man.
Speaker 3:Come on.
Speaker 5:That's real talk. I call Magnetic up all the time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're with each other all the time. That's why we got each other man and we love talking with y'all over on the East Coast, because it sure proves this knowledge is not regional, it's not based on a city. It's not based on a clique. Y'all got the same knowledge as we got Y'all younger. It's not based on a clique. Y'all got the same knowledge as we got y'all younger. Y'all in a different city. Y'all talk differently. Y'all grew up differently, so that that says a lot, man, we breathe in the same air, you know right indeed, indeed well, and, and you know, like I say, I I met brother ron in a black panther rally.
Speaker 2:That's how we connected. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, like, so I come to show you like the intentions were dead, but it's because I see the online banter. Like some dudes, I'm from the Morris Science Temple. I don't deal with the gods based on history and vice versa. In the Nation of Islam, you got the Hebrew Israelites and I'm like yo y'all over here fighting over doctrine that you didn't write.
Speaker 3:You're angry about it, but see, I was saying to Vic and I was saying to Vic and I was saying to our Supreme he deal with his mama. His mama ain't Morris. His mama ain't from the Nation of Gods and Earth right, or from the MSTA. Wait a minute now. He deal with his boss. His boss ain't, you know, affiliated in any type of way His uncle, his cousins and whatnot. So it's the same thing.
Speaker 5:This is our family, you got to keep the disagreeables away from us, man. That's the thing. Now we got to be more energy, cognizant and really screening people, qualify and disqualify them. That's God, bro. Put the hammer down. It's the round table. It's here to stay, man, the new valet's rap.
Speaker 1:Right, right, on that note, we're cutting out of here. Peace to the Black Round Table, it's.
Speaker 5:T-Y'all in a couple weeks.
Speaker 1:Wednesday, we'll be here, but we post this one tomorrow, thursday. This one is going up tomorrow, thursday, but the schedule for the Black Round Table we got to figure out exactly what day that's going to be posted. I'm thinking probably on a Sunday, but right now this's going to be posted. I'm thinking probably on a Sunday, but right now this is going to be posted tomorrow, on a Thursday. Peace to everybody on the check-in. Don't forget to like, comment, share, subscribe, hit the bell notification to make sure. Oh yeah, super chat, super chat, super chat. Peace to everybody and we're out of here.
Speaker 5:Peace to all my Rises, everybody and we're out of here Peace, peace, peace, peace, peace, peace, peace, peace, peace.