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Tuesday hip-hop entertainment news. I got my brothers here with me. Shawnee, we got Clip. You know what I'm saying. Trev will be joining us. Brother Ron will be joining us. Hope everyone had a great weekend. Hope your days were well. It's been. You know, past two days it's been something. I don't know what this corporate world, but it is what it is. You know what I'm saying All the time. If you a bigger Lee Harbor hate, go for yourself.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm hoping. I'm hoping that this month is a lot easier than last month. March was a harsh month man. I ain't going to lie man. March was a harsh month man. It was bro it was. It was bro it was. I can't front. I'm praying for a better April.
Speaker 1:Definitely man. Just a positive. Nothing but love and light for you, bro. All big facts, everyone going out Listen. There's a trend going on on TikTok man, stay your black asses home this weekend.
Speaker 4:That protest has nothing to do with you people. I don't even know what it is. Yeah, some hands off.
Speaker 1:Some hands off thing.
Speaker 3:It's so white.
Speaker 1:They have Elon Musk and Trump hands off Our benefits whatsoever. So people going out there to protest To make their voices be heard, my thing is it's called hands off Some group.
Speaker 4:It's Saturday, my thing is it's called hands off Some group.
Speaker 1:It's Saturday. They're having it Saturday nationwide.
Speaker 4:They voted for this. We don't want to hear that. I don't want to hear that Y'all voted for this guy, Y'all put him in the office and you got to live with what comes with it. So it is what it is. Figure it out yeah. For us who come from these impoverished neighborhoods, we ain't really had no benefits to begin with.
Speaker 1:We got to make turn water into butter.
Speaker 4:We got to come up out of the mud, get it out of the mud. So, like I don't care, yeah, man Figure it out.
Speaker 1:You're not going gonna catch me out there bruising my feet every week they mad at something new.
Speaker 4:We mad, we mad, we gonna protest. Yo fam, your protest ain't gonna do nothing unless you stop people's money you wanna get your benefits. Stop working, everybody. Stop working, something's gonna change.
Speaker 1:That's it that's the part I always like to point at.
Speaker 3:people always like the something's going to change. It's that simple, that's it. That's the part I always like to point at. People always like to, like you said, bruise their feet, but then the very next day they use their vacation sound to bruise their feet. It ain't like they just up and broke out and said nah, I'm not coming to work, I'm legitimately protesting. No, you're protesting with permission. This is a field trip. It's a field trip, bro. You got permission slip word.
Speaker 1:Just go out there. Walk out like you know. You know people want to have their voices heard. You know, do what makes you happy. But let me tell you I attended enough protest, protesting and marching. Listen, people do it for hashtags, the trends. Take a photo, I was there.
Speaker 4:I'm not doing. No, we shall overcome nothing. I'm sorry, no disrespect, but what are we protesting for? We don't do protesting right in today's era. We don't know how to protest properly. We don't know how to do proper bus boycotts and things that was done in the past, where they stuck to their word Exactly. I can't respect modern protests. What are we protesting?
Speaker 1:I'm telling you they do it for the hashtags.
Speaker 4:It's the same way, when black people was like yo, we're going to do all this and don't shop at Target on this day. Don't shop at Walmart on this day, all right, cool. What happens the very next day when you need eggs?
Speaker 1:They Don't shop at Walmart on this day. All right, cool. What happens? The?
Speaker 3:very next day when you need eggs. They went straight to Target and got a.
Speaker 1:TV. There's a sale going on. Why are you bugging? I'm going to get me.
Speaker 3:I need that 98-inch. What you mean? You're crazy. I need that?
Speaker 1:We're not doing that. Man, we're not doing that. Yo yo, brothers man, we're not doing that. Man, we're not doing that. Yo yo brothers man, we got to get into it, man. Cuckoo Kanye man, what was that about? I get the aesthetics of it and his message he's trying to portray, but it's like every month Kanye got something he wants to get off his chest.
Speaker 4:He got no message. He's trying to portray that deranged Negro. Let him say ain't nothing, ain't nothing messaged with him.
Speaker 5:He's trying to be sound brother, fix my sound, give me sound.
Speaker 4:This bipolar idiot want to run around and rant every six months when he's about to drop something. Nobody want to hear this guy man. He talk a whole bunch of nonsense. He walk around with black KK Yo dog. You walked around with White Lives Matter shirt on. You told us that slavery was a choice. Now you wearing black KKK stuff and you walk around with Confederate flags, shit and swastikas. I don't respect nothing about you. You need to get punched in your face, like enough is enough. All these rants and stuff will stop when you get punched in your mouth. I'm tired of the foolishness we keep giving him attention.
Speaker 3:Punch him in his face, you forgot Kanye already had his jaw broken from the car accident.
Speaker 4:Damn that car accident damaged him. You got to do more than that. Nah, it damaged his brain too, because, like I don't want to hear it no more, like I'm tired of you ranting about nothing, Like nobody told you to marry Kim Kardashian, you chose to marry her. We all looked at you like it was crazy, because you're the main one that they have rap records talk about, and when he get on, he leave your ass for a white girl. And you did the exact thing. You've been rapping about yourself the whole time. The hypocrisy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we hear you bro.
Speaker 5:Yeah, we hear you my headphones. Reaction crazy. You know I'm reacting spicy.
Speaker 4:He's full of it. Nobody want to hear Kanye with his old stupidness. Man, Slap him. Disrespecting people's kids and all of that. I ain't listening to that trash ass album. He ain't have a hot album in five albums. His last good album was my first album. Let's keep it a mark. Yeezus was trash, ye was trash. Kid C Ghost was trash. That Gospel Jesus is King album was trash.
Speaker 1:I don't care if you were fucking with me.
Speaker 4:God told us it was trash.
Speaker 5:The one with Todd Donaldson was fire. That was trash too.
Speaker 4:That was trash too.
Speaker 1:Or Donda.
Speaker 4:He was rapping about a bunch of nothing. He was rapping about a bunch of booblobs.
Speaker 5:There was some joints on there to me. I kind of like that album. I was hot hot Vienna sausage.
Speaker 3:I like the track they got with North. I like that track. I like the track they got with North.
Speaker 4:I hate that song too. Nobody want to hear your daughter. Nobody want to hear that song. Yo, my daughter, my daughter.
Speaker 5:Nah, I sit down Like nah. What picture is that behind you? What picture is that behind you?
Speaker 2:Yo what's popping.
Speaker 5:What's popping?
Speaker 2:Trev still sound like he's trapped in a fishbowl. What's going on?
Speaker 5:It's his touch phone, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man Tre Trevor reporting live from Jupiter.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, kanye, that interview he was like doing his usual rant. So what happened was that, you know, I made a ham sandwich and then the brother came through and hated on me. Then, you know, he went off on Jim Jones. He wanted the two million million. I took the meeting for you so you could get the $2 million. Hold on.
Speaker 2:Hold on, hold on, hold on. Who's a Kanye hater in here? I was a Kanye hater for a little second. I am a Kanye hater because he's a clown. All right, Now I thought the same thing, but check this out. Now you can tell me Hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1:That's the baby. That's the mace, that's the mace.
Speaker 3:She asked me to open up her nails.
Speaker 1:What's going on, baby? What's going on, baby Yo?
Speaker 2:check this out how you doing, yo.
Speaker 2:But back to Kanye, right? Kanye says let's go to Jim Jones. He said that Jim Jones basically got him hooked up with a crypto person and for him to take the meeting he got $2 million out of it. So then Kanye didn't know that he was getting that $2 million and all he asked Jim Jones to do is send him a PDF of designs, I believe. And Jim Jones said I don't know how to do a PDF. And then he said and then Kanye says Kanye, cut him off on that. I agree with him on that. I just made you $2 million. I made you $2 million. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I just made you $2 million. All I'm asking you to do is send me a PDF of designs. You don't know how to do it. Okay, I'm Kanye.
Speaker 2:Let's be real here. Kanye is a billionaire, legendary hip-hop producer who you do have a rapport with. We don't know where this relationship could go business-wise. Just make sure I get the PDF. However, you got to get it done Because I'm sure if someone else had some other business to do with him, he would make sure to. Let's say, if Kanye wasn't Kanye and he was just a white man or whatever like that. He was a white man, right, he is a white man, whatever like that. He was a white man, right, he is a white man. No, listen, no, no Real shit, though. If it wasn't Kanye, and it was a white man, and the white man needed a PDF from Jim Jones, do you think Jim Jones would have figured it out or not? Let's be real.
Speaker 1:Would, that one of your young boys do it.
Speaker 5:I don't think, jim, be honest with you, I don't think a lot of people know how to send pdfs, to be honest with you, you know. And the fact I think kanye was kind of right and the fact that he said you got all them young boys around you. Somebody knows some type of computer, has some type of computer literacy. I agree, I get that part. I don't think jim jones knows anything about of computer. Has some type of computer literacy? I get that part. I don't think Jim Jones knows anything about computer technology. As a matter of fact, it was Jim Jones' son who had the Quarantine Studios. That was a smart move. But again, jim needs people around him that knows how to do other things and just stand on the corner with Pele, pele's and and and just be around and be, be a groupie, because somebody should know how to do something other than just be street or actually, or rap.
Speaker 2:That's what I think. Here's the here's the thing about. Here's the thing about um, when you have that kind of money, being Jim Jones right now he doesn't have Kanye money, but he's definitely well off. He's walking around with thousands of dollars in his pocket you have access to everything. This is Jim Jones is a sharp businessman as well. Remember, he's the creation, or he's the brains behind the creation, of love and hip-hop. Okay, he is the I would say one of the brains behind Dipset. He's the brains behind his own career and, I'm sure, as a hip-hop artist, you're getting files sent back. You're sending files back over. Whatever the case may be. You have unlimited resources. You can make a call, you can whatever to find a way to get a pdf sent to kanye west I see where you're taking this a person that you have some sort of relationship with, and he made you $2 million.
Speaker 1:He's saying Jones is basically undermining Kanye because he's Kanye, they've been undermining black people for years now.
Speaker 4:I don't want to hear none of that nonsense. If he got skunked out of $2 million, so what? You running around here acting like a whole white boy, you've been telling us black. You told us slavery. You told us slavery was a choice. You told us white lives matter. You, running around here with Confederate flags on you, told us that this white man, trump, was like your daddy. I don't want to hear none of that nonsense about you. What Jim Jones did? You disrespected a man's kids and children. Then you want us to feel bad for you because you got skunked out of $2 million, when you've been robbing the black community with them bum-ass ninja slippers you've been selling to our community for all these prices, man holy shits and all of that.
Speaker 4:I don't want to hear none of that nonsense about jim jones skunking you for two million dollars. You got mad at hove and everybody else because they ain't support you marrying that white woman. When they told you not to marry that white woman, you chose to disrespect, you chose to not listen and you wanted then you disrespecting your own kids, your own black children, on camera talking about I regret having kids with this woman Dog, your kids is alive.
Speaker 1:Like you, a sucker. You can't say that.
Speaker 4:I don't want to hear none of that nonsense. He's spewing this whole bipolar negro ring around here with black KKK outfits on. Knowing the history of the KKK and what they did to black people, it's a damn shame that you're out here wearing that goofy shit. He's a goofball I wouldn't people?
Speaker 1:It's a damn shame that you're out here wearing that goofy shit. He's a goofball. I would have slid it off fire.
Speaker 4:Did you do an interview with another non-culture idiot in academics? I don't want to hear none of this nonsense.
Speaker 1:Academics interview.
Speaker 4:All of them is sellouts. Academics been selling out our culture with constant drama and instigation of black or black murder. I don't want to hear none of the nonsense with none of them. Two suckers.
Speaker 2:All right, check this out Now. I hear you, I feel your sentiment and all that right, but check this out, what I'm realizing now, what I'm realizing now watching people online and how they get down and things like that. Right, the Internet is fake. I don't think people really realize that it's not. It's not fake. No, no, no, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on Cliff. Let me bring this home. The Internet is called virtual reality, so it is actually. It is actually fake.
Speaker 2:If you believe this shit is real, you're caught up Because this, right here, everybody who posts online, they're going to post small, small snippets of their lives. They're not going to open up the door and let you see everything that's going on in there. So it's small snippets, snippets of everyone's lives, even yours. No one's, no one's gonna give you the full reality of really what's going on in their life, like lives. So, technically the internet and everybody on it, they're giving you a fake ass perception of what their lives really are like. So if you're, if you get caught up, if you get caught up into people who know how this world works, then that's your fault. Now, kanye, hold on hold on Kanye from the beginning.
Speaker 2:Remember this is the same person who jumped on stage with Taylor Swift, a person who wouldn't do that shit with 50 Cent or anybody else. That's supposedly tough right. He gets on the stage with Taylor Swift, grabs the mic and then commits to say what he had to say. He does this shit for shock value. He does it to stay in the public eye. He's been doing this shit since back in the days when he realized oh shit, this is going to keep me. Keep attention on me, let me keep doing it. 50 Cent does the same thing, trump does the same thing, elon Musk does the same thing.
Speaker 3:All these people, they just understand how the internet works, yeah, but see, the thing about that Is Kanye was doing that before. The internet Was really like a thing. Yeah, like before the internet.
Speaker 3:Became a part of daily life, like, um, I think it first started With like ambition. Like, to be honest with you, it first started with like ambition. Like to be honest with you, it first started with ambition Like, if you listen to College Dropout, college Dropout is all about ambition, right, wrapping through the wire and so on and so forth. That's about ambition. When they told him he couldn't perform on stage because he was in the wheelchair, whatever, whatever, he came up on the wheel. He came up on stage in a wheelchair anyway and see, all that was done before the internet became like you know, in your pocket every day you have to check in, kind of a thing.
Speaker 3:So I don't know, somewhere along the lines I think it's like you said, once he realized that he can get paid off for that or, you know, there's more attention in that, and then he just went in that lane. But the difference with like 50 is 50 still provides a lot of value and product, whether it's clothes, whether it's tangibility, whether it's music, whether it's movies, whether it's TV shows. Kanye possesses that attitude, but leaves no bread trails behind to get to him. Can I add on to that?
Speaker 5:Yeah, I want to add on to that too. Real quick, real quick before you go. Mike, remember Kanye was really the first person to really speak his mind when we forgot about George Bush doesn't care about black people. That was way before the internet.
Speaker 1:We knew that already.
Speaker 5:But to actually say it, you know what I'm saying. I think, kanye, you know you saying that 50 Cent does it for tangibility and things like that, which can be true. I don't think Kanye does it for tangibility and things like that, which can be true. I don't think Kanye does it for tangibility or attention. At this point, I really think Kanye has a mixture of bipolar schizophrenia right anymore, as as he did prior to, when he was the the backpack kid, the polo kid, um, when he was rockefeller, um, I don't think that kanye is really cares anymore. I think once his mother passed, he really had, he really started to drift and this is what we're seeing now, because I think his mother was the only person who was really his support system, who really was his guidance when things went wrong let me ask something real quick let me say this.
Speaker 1:I hear what Ron is saying about. You know, people learn how the internet works to garner attention and you bring money and traffic your way. It's a double-edged sword because yes, mike, we're doing it for business purposes and attraction, right, but a person outside of that will assume that narrative that every black person behaves like Kanye. They will tolerate certain things. It's the person's perspective, how they view it. They might. You know what. They all behave like that. It's like watching the late night news, right? Some white people probably watch it and be like that's how all you guys behave. Really, this is what I'm seeing on television. You know what I'm saying. So Kanye's behavior some people would think, oh, it's cool to behave like that because they all behave like that.
Speaker 3:But I think Ye do care about the money though, because the last couple of business deals that he was in they kind of went sour. So he and I'm not too positive he's still under that lifetime contract. I can't remember who he signed that with, but if you ain't producing, you know, yeah, you worried about that money somewhat because you got a lifestyle that you got to uphold and you got bills that you got to pay. You got kids you got to take care of. They go to the most expensive schools and things of that nature. Oh, he care about that money and, matter of fact, he care about that money so much he's doing black kid cake, the k things. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:that's how much he cares about that money that?
Speaker 5:money Go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 4:For one. Let me counteract what Ron said about the internet being a virtual reality or fake. It's not fake. When you see somebody get their head blown off for some shit they did on the internet for popping crazy to another person on the internet and they get their life murdered, that ain't fake. That's as real as it comes. We are in a digital world now. We come from an old real as it comes. We are in a digital world now. It's not. We come from an old school world, but we are in a digital world. The internet is real. The problem with people is that we look at it from our generation as entertainment to the younger generation. All of this is real. This is their everyday life. So for that, let me get on that. I'm going to get on Kanye. I don't care about nothing y'all talking about with this guy. We got to stop.
Speaker 2:We got to hear you, can you?
Speaker 4:hear me now. Yeah, I don't want to hear nothing about this man's mother passing away as the reason why he starts spazzing out. No, he was spazzing out while his mother was alive. His mother died, doing some spaz out shit too. No disrespect to her. Rest in peace. But let's keep it all the way above, like he's a spoiled little brat that whenever things don't go his way he want to go on these little crazy rants and try to disrespect people. He's a sellout. He's been selling us out. I don't care about that. George Bush's black nonsense. George Bush don't like black people. Pac said it, public Enemy been saying it, him running on stage to a white person. Odb did it first.
Speaker 1:There's nothing new Thanks for the kids.
Speaker 4:We've all seen it before. None of this is new. He does all of this for attention, because he's no longer the number one guy in the spotlight so that's another thing I wanted to.
Speaker 3:I wanted to ask yo, because I'm not I am not the biggest conge fan, I'm not like you know. I'm saying I like, I like the first, maybe I like the, the school, I like the, I like the teddy bear series. I like the teddy bear series. I do. I like a few joints off of 808 and heartbreaks because it was different from the teddy bear series. Right.
Speaker 3:So now, that's when I just started getting wet so the talent is no, no, no, but I don't. I think it depends on what you can. Comparing it to that 808 and Heartbreak's album was something totally different from anything that we had heard, so that's kind of why I dug it. It's different. Everything else after that I'm not a fan of. I like the Yeezus album and everything else in between I don't get. I honestly think from after 808 to Heartbreaks, I think everything in his career is built off of controversy.
Speaker 2:I got to share this. I got to share this. It's neither here nor there, but I got to share it. It has to go on record. I got to tell somebody that Kanye graduation album right, there's a song on there. I forgot the name of the song. All I know is one night I was in a woman's house. I was in a woman's house.
Speaker 4:Yo, you're probably talking about Drunk In Heart Girls.
Speaker 2:No disrespect to nobody watching, but yo, a woman I know, threw on a Kanye album and she's a dancer. She's like a, a professional dance, not like stripping poles, and all of that. She grew up, she went to school in juilliard. She danced to one of them songs for however long, it's like four or five minutes. Shit was amazing. Anyway, thanks to to Kanye for that. Right there, what's up?
Speaker 1:Oh, you busted some cheeks. I don't want to say nothing, but clap with some cheeks to. I Wonder, and I wonder.
Speaker 5:She was nice with it. Let's not forget about the amazing Tiana Taylor in the video with the faded joint.
Speaker 1:Somebody looking for their mother? Mr Tate, your mom's not here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know we're going to get detractors nowadays now because you know, mr Tate, you spelled your mom name wrong. You know what I'm saying? Let's go.
Speaker 1:Let's go.
Speaker 4:Who has copped it? Kanye's a cool one.
Speaker 2:Oh, hold on. Oh, it's a woman.
Speaker 4:Why is her name Mr? Tate, I don't know, I'm not talking to no woman named Mr Tate Period. I'm not talking to no woman Named MrT Period. I'm not talking to Y'all just had a conversation.
Speaker 3:Some days will not be tolerated.
Speaker 2:Yo Mike.
Speaker 1:You saw that right. Yeah, I know what time it is. I know what time it is when my CC Get my. I know what time it is. I know what time it is when my CC start get my money. Anyway, you know what it is.
Speaker 2:But anyway, yo, let's go ahead and kick it.
Speaker 3:I wanted to say this though, right, because we was talking about it backstage and I'm like, given that, putting all of this together, basically, given that, oh, thank you, given that the music career in some people's eyes, kind of reached its peak and it kind of reached its peak around the time where this internet thing was kind of taken off and where it was like everybody has direct access to your life and I was thinking like, what if Kanye is living his life like, I don't know, maybe like a Picasso painting at this point? What if the value right, what if the value in what we're looking at we're not actually seeing? I clip, don't clip. Hate this theory, I can see, but I'm just saying from from, uh, from an argumentative point of view, right, just looking, looking into the glass bowl, right, I, I can see it sort of that being the idea from him beating up the paparazzi.
Speaker 3:Remember that oh yeah yeah to him, uh, being dressed, all blacked out and then having his wife being naked, um even to this kkk thing to this White Lives Matter wearing the White Lives Matter T-shirt in the midst of a lot of African Americans being murdered on the internet, which is in everybody's pocket now. So I can see that perhaps being an approach, but I don't see a lot of people gravitating to that, though. I don't see a lot of people gravitating to that. I don't see a lot of people gravitating to that idea.
Speaker 4:I want to say something on that. I hear what you're saying and it makes sense, but here's the thing Kanye lives in a bubble. You can tell he lives in a bubble because if you saw that interview, look at where he was at and look at how academics had to get to lives in a bubble, because if you saw that interview, look at where he was at and look at how academics had to get to him in a bubble. Kanye's in a bubble to the point where he can't get punched in his face. That's why he's spewing what he's spewing, because he knows he's in the same place where people punch him in his face. You disrespecting street people, you disrespecting black people, you disrespecting all these people because you're not the top guy anymore. But you're running around talking about giving to the king. Give it to the king, give it to me. I'm the god, I'm this, I'm that Yo dog. You're a human being that can get punched in your mouth.
Speaker 1:Can't you see that? He's fake rap version of TZ Jakes prophesizing to see these in the us.
Speaker 4:One minute she was talking all of this holier-than-thou stuff. This is all for Jesus, in the name of Jesus. And then the next minute you talk about if I bone this model and she bleach her asshole Like which one? Is it dog? What are we talking?
Speaker 3:about Wait, wait, wait Hold on who said that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he did. Yeah yeah's like if I get this model, it's evil.
Speaker 3:Yeah that's.
Speaker 4:Kanye living that rockstar lifestyle, you know what I'm saying, but I think the difference between him and Mase is I wouldn't doubt that.
Speaker 3:I think the difference between him and Mase is we could see Mase doing that as that's the strategy right. You could see Mase's joint as like, that's like the strategy right, like Mace. You could see Mace, that was strategic. You could see that right. There wasn't no change or hard or nothing. That's the same thing. Your man, ben, laid that game down.
Speaker 5:No, but I think Mace was different, though. Run Reverend run.
Speaker 3:Reverend Ben laid that game down. No, but you got my call man no but you got to land. No, no, it's all good I can stay in the air for a minute, hey.
Speaker 5:No, what I was saying is, I think with Reverend Run, with Mace, it's totally different from Kanye going into his whole spiritual thing. Reverend Run, you got to think about it. He had his run already, it was already up, and what do I do now? You know, it's like cool Mase. I think Mase was more or less tired of what he saw when he came to Bad Boy, because I think Bad Boy, like when you go with Big's album, it's like the outside looking in on the first album and then the second album of Big was like it's not what it seems to be, and I think Mase got a first-hand look at what the industry was before he actually went into golf.
Speaker 3:I think they was ducking tax problems, if I'm not mistaken. I think they was ducking tax problems, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 4:I think there was legal reasons. I'm focused on this, but I think Mace was ducking the body.
Speaker 1:Hey listen, like I said, it's definitely legal reason is behind that.
Speaker 4:You just don't flee to Atlanta out of nowhere and then pop dogs.
Speaker 1:You know what? Let's leave it right there. Let's leave it right there. No, but I'm just saying, I think it's different.
Speaker 3:I just think that it's different. I think they come from that time different. I think they come from that time where I think they come from that time I'm talking about.
Speaker 3:Reverend Run. I'm talking about Running Mace. Right, I'm talking about Running Mace. Running Mace come from a time where, especially Run come from a time where being a pastor was just as much as a hustle as selling heroin. This is just facts. This is just facts. This is just facts. They come from a time where they come from a time that's been solidified so much. You just had a man say yo lock the doors, I need 40,000. You understand?
Speaker 5:Yeah, that's how much that's solidified.
Speaker 1:That's how much that hustle is solidified.
Speaker 3:I am a Harlem Knight. Don't mind them. We chat and we having a good one.
Speaker 4:I am a Harlem Knight, but that's me to handle that. You think you know the story. You might not know everything, but I'm going to be quiet on that.
Speaker 3:You know, but they come from a time where that's a solidified hustle. I think Kanye is just looking for new things to shock, value, to push. See, he opened up the door to jump into those type of things. He did that early. His first joint that popped was that Jesus Waltz joint. He already knew where he was going from there. The door was open for the gospel album from there.
Speaker 1:I believe GLC wrote that for him right. It don't matter, it's during his 80s GLC didn't write it.
Speaker 4:Rhymefest. Rhymefest wrote that.
Speaker 3:He definitely has talented writers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what happened to Rhymefest man? He definitely gives.
Speaker 4:He definitely gives.
Speaker 5:Can I ask you a question? Consequence neither, let me ask you a question. Let me just throw this out there, because you know Ron had mentioned the internet and how people react to the internet. Now, because of the internet being in our pocket, as Sean says, is there really anything? Is there really a thing of shock value today? Because, like Cliff said, you can actually see somebody getting their brains blown out on the internet. Just the other day, homeboy had the domestic violence thing and we saw that. So is it really shock value at this time, and can you even put value to the word shock at this point when it comes to the Internet?
Speaker 3:Can you put value to the word shock? That yo, I can see the shock bubble popping pretty soon.
Speaker 5:I don't think it's shocking no more, because we see it every day. It's like nothing. To me, nothing is shocking nowadays. It's like when God was on the down low and now you're seeing God deal with God. It's like, oh, before it was shocking, but now it's somewhat normal, like can we really say there's shock value in anything nowadays?
Speaker 2:I'm going to tell you why. I'm going to tell you why.
Speaker 3:I think it'll be coming to an end pretty soon. It'll be not enough to sell.
Speaker 4:Nah, that's not true.
Speaker 3:Nah, but I'm saying listen, hold on. What I mean is people have sold their dignity, people have sold their intelligence, people have sold their philosophies, people have sold their bodies in harmful ways on the internet, right? What more is there left for you to sell as a person? And that's what I'm trying to say. What more is there left for you to sell as a person? And that's what I'm trying to say. What more is there left for you to sell as a person? And then the cherry on the top of that was a couple of years ago, people were licking toilet bowls.
Speaker 3:And last year people was walking on crates to nowhere, just for a couple of thousand views. And just for the views, because all of the comments is saying how dumb you look. So so I I like what's, what's what's next? Like the bubble has to pop pretty soon because there's no yo. Someone took somebody's grave and brought it back to the block. What is left to sell? You got people peeing on graves After a minute. What you gonna sell next?
Speaker 4:I'm not shocked by nothing on the internet these days. I see it and be like, alright, that's either some ignorant shit or a small pocket of positive shit. But 95% of this shit is ignorant. So I'm like, okay, another ignorant thing. Okay, cool, another rapper got shot, it's sad. Oh, another old school gangster gets locked up. Oh, another. Like it's the same nonsense over and over again, like it's a repeat Watch. Next year it's going to be another big name celebrity that we know that's doing the fake things.
Speaker 1:Can I be honest with you. You know what it is. I'm going to keep it so funky because, as you know, we know the internet is fake. But there's a lot of nonsense. It's not only the internet, it's people's behaviors. You got adults behaving like little lost niggas. Man, I'm part of my fringe, but I'm going to be honest.
Speaker 2:That's why the culture has to shift A lot of disgruntled people out here haven't grown up, bro, but yo you know what I realized though, bro, I'm realizing this. Listen, let's just have fun. Let's have fun with this shit. Ride the wave, because it's going to be a long, long, long, long wave. This internet should be here, and then, uh, for what I found from science, a science journal, some months back um, all human beings, the majority, according to the science magazine, the majority of people's thoughts are negative, so that's just a reflection which you see, see online in the comments and shit like that. That's what you're going to see. You're going to just see the negative comments.
Speaker 3:It's still new right Relatively Relatively yeah, no relatively, it is. You think the internet is fairly new.
Speaker 1:It's been around for a while.
Speaker 3:With access, with public access.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's been around since the 90s. They didn't expect it to grow at this level Now. They did.
Speaker 4:When it first came out, they said it was going to eventually get to this point. It's going to get even crazier With AI and everything.
Speaker 3:But I'm just saying it still has this time to develop. Right Like. It's sort of like you can like it at the TV because it came through just like TV came through. Right. Tv came through as under the guise of a tool to educate your children. That's how it ended up in everybody's living room that could afford it. It initially was for like ABCs, 123, threes, building blocks and so on and so forth, and then, once a lot of people ended up getting it, then they started feeding different things into a song on and so forth. It got to a point where they had to start regulating it. You probably don't remember the hot wheel show. Um, and the hot wheel show was the show that they decided they had to. That's when they decided to make regulations for children programming because they decided it was just one long commercial, not an actual show. So that's what I'm saying. Sometimes it takes time for regulations to come. Will people accept the regulations, so on and so forth. Right, so it's like youtube right now is limiting some of the words that you can use.
Speaker 1:That's it.
Speaker 3:Tick tock as well, yeah yes, so the regulations are on the way, but will people that heed to them?
Speaker 4:no. No, all that's going to happen is there's going to be another app that pops up that's going to let you run free and everybody's going to think right over there.
Speaker 3:Okay, cliff, I'm going to jump right on that point. My bad, I'm going to jump right on that point, cliff, because there's that, just for people begging for attention and just trying to find the worst things they can do. There's that that guy that was in. Uh, I think he's in like north korea, all right, and um, he out there just acting a fool just doing whatever he wanted to. He thought he was gonna be out there huh, you talking about speed, the young kid it's speed is a not not speed.
Speaker 3:Nah, nah, nah, not speed. This is, this is like a, like a brown kid I can't even call what he is.
Speaker 1:Was he the one in Harlem with Jim Jones? See something like that, the Indian kid.
Speaker 3:Nah, nah, nah. This kid is locked up now in North Korea. This kid not coming home. You know, what I'm saying this is how big this cry for attention is becoming. You have people who can afford to travel the world just begging for attention and now look you're in a place where they don't play that, like they don't play that Yo.
Speaker 3:Certain places people think it's the same. It ain't the same. Yo you go someplace else on earth and do something that you're accustomed to doing, you will get fried. Yo they talk about giving him 10 years for being a public nuisance. For being a public nuisance, 10 years.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's like that dude that got whipped in the public. Remember that one.
Speaker 4:Yo, I remember a man of money 20 lashes.
Speaker 2:I want to move on to this part of me. Y'all, we've been talking about the internet for like 40 minutes. That's peace. This is a great, flowing conversation. I wouldn't mind it, but we got other titles up there. We got New Forming of Mob.
Speaker 1:Deep. Oh yeah, Tell me about that. New Forming of Mob Deep has rumors lately. They say Nas and Havoc are going to do an album together.
Speaker 5:No, that still ain't Mob Deep. I don't get what you're saying.
Speaker 1:No, that's what they were saying.
Speaker 4:It's a new Mob Deep album.
Speaker 1:getting worked on it, oh all right, that's what they were saying on the internet. Ayo, ayo, that would have been crazy.
Speaker 3:Super duper real with you. Well, they better have some old prodigy joints.
Speaker 5:I need to have prodigy Pause.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Y'all ain't nobody A lot of people not I don't know, I don't know if this is. I don't think this is a popular thing popular opinion P is nice, no, no P in the day was nice.
Speaker 2:Get your Kanye on and say what you gotta say, bro.
Speaker 3:Aye, aye, aye, you right, you right. Prodigy capital P, everything before HNIC1, back fire, hnic2, the return to the Mac, and all of that going up nah.
Speaker 1:Return of the Mac was tough. Rotten Apple made me this way I like.
Speaker 3:Alchemist and Prodigy's draw it out bars. I like that, but outside of that, nah, his delivery it, what, what he's saying um how he decides to say it. I'm not, I'm, I'm not a fan of that. But, bryce, I'm joining hold on.
Speaker 1:Hold on hold on hold on okay.
Speaker 3:Okay, turn it back, I'll give it. I'll give another listen. I because you, because you know I respect, I respect your musical opinion. I will give it another listen. I respect your musical opinion. I will give it another listen, no bull they need to have alchemists that's what I'm saying he's part of it. I need a little alchemist but what I'm saying is. What I'm saying is this I read the prodigy book, right yeah, good book bro.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, good book bro.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's a good story, it's a good story and if you really look into it, if you really read it and you take away the friendship that's been presented to you and you take in how the friendship actually started, right.
Speaker 3:If you do that. If you do that, then you realize something that ain't the team that you thought it was. If you go back and follow up, if you look at the paths that they was on separately at that time right. If you look at Havoc just being a Queensbridge kid, you know what's hard in Queensbridge he's. He's raised by um Como Gaddafi so we already know. Yeah, he's raised by tragedy. Tragedy is who gave Havoc his name, so we already know what time it is he done.
Speaker 3:lost his brother, all that. We know what time it is Right. At the same time, pete was in the dance school with his grandmother, who was very well connected in the music industry when he was Lord T. You get what I'm saying, so now you kind of see how this friendship is developing. When they used to pick on Prodigy and Havoc knew who he was, havoc always been smart. Havoc knew who he was. Havoc stopped it. These are the same people that they was running with throughout the rest of their life.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Right, all right. Now you read and you see they don't treat P well.
Speaker 3:After P died. After P died, Havoc dropped that 13 album. The first single on the 13 album is a disrespectful song to Prodigy. It's a very disrespectful song to Prodigy when he's standing on the soapbox. He's preaching in front of the church. He told me how him and P, him and p you know they sitting there bagging up and p got it all in his nose and, yeah, he disrespected this man like crazy once he was gone he did admit that he was.
Speaker 1:He was, yeah, but why didn't?
Speaker 3:you wait till he died and then you say how yo you the reason why we ain't going no further yo.
Speaker 2:But you know what I want to. I want to interject in that Yo now check this out.
Speaker 3:No, but real quick, real quick, real quick, because I'm trying to get to why they're making this album right now.
Speaker 4:Did 13 come out after he died? After he died? I don't think so.
Speaker 2:The first album Yo, this is what I'm saying. I don't know what album is 13, but I know this. He came out with a track and he had his brother, ferg, remember? Oh, I think that's his name, ferg brim, ferg brim, ferg, ferg, ferg brim. Y'all don't remember that when that happened, havoc has a brother named ferg brim. Ferg brim came out of jail. He was wilding out on prodigy. They made a video about it and the whole nine. It was like Havoc was shooting Prodigy in the video and it went way, way, way, way left.
Speaker 2:And then after that later down the road he died. So I don't know. Matter of fact, they hashed it out first and then he passed on. Yeah, I mean, that's what.
Speaker 3:I was told. So what I was trying to learn was 13.
Speaker 4:came out four years before.
Speaker 3:But all right, but that single, but that single on it is still disrespectful to you know. Do you know what song I'm talking about? Yeah, but that song is still disrespectful to your man. You don't drop nothing like that about somebody you know has a problem. And that's your man, right? How about the time that he got him? He made him go confront Sagan on stage and Sagan punched him all in his face.
Speaker 5:How about that.
Speaker 3:How about?
Speaker 5:that, yeah, yeah, and then he had to get right back to rapping.
Speaker 3:So my thing is Cause I'm talking a lot, so my thing is, now that things ain't really going too well For Hav, now let's do a Mobb D joint, my favorite, my favorite track from Hav, I mean they pieced it up.
Speaker 5:Y'all remember this.
Speaker 2:Ferg Brim.
Speaker 1:My favorite track from Havoc.
Speaker 2:I'm going to send it to the chat.
Speaker 1:From Havoc's second album was that Be there, off that Kush album. That was a tough track, that Be there. And the first album he did, hidden Files, was the heart of the city.
Speaker 4:Here's my thing. I agree with you, shardy. I would never put my peoples out there like that right.
Speaker 1:Be, personal.
Speaker 4:But Prodigy and Pete, they squashed it whatever drama they had Publicly. They squashed it publicly and they were going on tour and they was performing together and I guess whatever brotherhood they had, they was rebuilding Around the time Prodigy died. So I think have regret, but they was rebuilding around the time Prodigy died. So I think have regret a lot of the stuff he did since he died, because I've seen him talk about Prodigy recently His eyes get real watery like he really regret a lot of that stuff he did you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:I don't respect that. I don't respect that.
Speaker 2:Peace and winners daily Peace and respect that Peace to Winners Daily. Peace to Winners Daily.
Speaker 4:With their entourage. I had to get out of Queens one time because it was getting kind of shaky for me, their entourage, you know their Marv's entourage in the Max Beat situation.
Speaker 1:Oh, I remember that situation with Unchino and all of them.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they was about listen. I was at Ozone Park and it could have been lights out for your boy. Could have been the last night.
Speaker 1:Could, have been the last night. They're like yo come here son, come here son.
Speaker 3:It wasn't even my place to die, bro.
Speaker 1:Yo Shawnee, they're like come here son, yo son Come here, son, come here yo, Sean.
Speaker 3:you said, queens is the wrong place to die.
Speaker 4:It's a bad place to die. It wasn't even my beef, it was the issue between Max B, max B, between Max B and Prodigy. This was during the time my partner Marvino did a lot of, did some records for Max B. I was out there promoting saying we work with Max B, blah, blah, blah. They thought I was down with Max B. They was ready to give me the beats because Max was running his mouth. He was talking about what you got sick of selling. I remember that.
Speaker 3:I don't even know him. I don't even know him, I don't even know.
Speaker 4:I don't know him like that, not like that, right.
Speaker 1:You heard what he said, ron. It's so true, 2015. I'm not going to lie to you. I was getting some power. I used to live in Queens. I was in Fresh Meadows. I went from Fresh Metals. Just know that my car got followed from Jamaica Avenue to Far Rockaway because I was going to the Prizes to get some pie with you.
Speaker 5:I got followed.
Speaker 2:Nah, that's a fact, bro. Huh Edgeman, yo Queens is weird bro Edgeman is eerie. Like after 12 is eerie bro.
Speaker 3:Nah, it's crazy, nah Yo, you gotta remember Queens is really suburban, for real for real. Yeah, it's the New York suburbs for real.
Speaker 4:I remember sitting on the boat.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like sitting on the boat. Anybody from Queens sitting on the island. Everybody from Queens. Everybody got gun charges. What you here for gun charges. Yeah, it get creepy, it get scary in Queens Late in the night. Yeah, it get scary.
Speaker 5:That's why I was on my.
Speaker 4:I was on my Yo. Let me get the fire in here cause it can get real crazy in Queens. I remember in Queens one night I was battling.
Speaker 2:I was battling in a party, in a house party. I'm battling with a dude. We rapping, I'm getting the best of him in a battle and I'm, like you know, talking my shit. All I know is he turned around, he walks off, comes back with a rifle.
Speaker 1:Oh shit.
Speaker 3:So you're going to lose this battle of your life tonight. Bro, you big, I'm like you know what?
Speaker 2:bro, you got it. Bro, you got that. A rifle, Like why you come here with a fucking race.
Speaker 1:I was in Far Rockaway. Far Rockaway is different.
Speaker 2:I was in Southside over there.
Speaker 3:I was thinking you know New Marby, right? Just like when I heard that I ain't gonna lie, I got a little excited, right? Because, like Queensbridge has done a lot for hip-hop, that's a fact. Since yeah, queensbridge, I mean yo like yo come on now.
Speaker 4:Queensbridge, like if you really start talking about it.
Speaker 3:If you really start talking about it, you're talking for too long.
Speaker 4:That's what I was about to get to.
Speaker 3:That's what I was about to get to. If you talk about it for too long, you're going to end up saying Queens is king of hip hop in New York because they got most of the artists. They have most of the influential artists. They got the top influential artists in Nines. They got a lot going on. They got the top influential artists in Nas. They got a lot going on. They got the largest projects in America. No, that's a fact, that's a fact, they got a lot going on in Queensbridge.
Speaker 1:Good power in those projects.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and some good piff too, and some good chocolate. It is a good place to be. If you could be there.
Speaker 1:If you could be there, if you can be there. If you can be there, if you can be there.
Speaker 3:If you can be there. Queensbridge is a wonderful place to be, but you got to be able to be there and that's just not a place a lot of people are able to be.
Speaker 1:That's just the facts.
Speaker 3:Yes, you skipped the skip Vernon the 41st.
Speaker 4:They got 96 buildings, man. They got 96 buildings, man. They got 96 buildings. 96 buildings two sides. That's bad talent coming out of those buildings.
Speaker 3:Super talent and it makes you so much truism from the stories, Like you're never going to say I think a Queensbridge artist is lying. You're never going to say that, Like you're not going to listen to Capone and say yo, Capone is a liar, no, he's not. You're not even going to listen to Green Eyes, You're not even going to listen to Mikey Green Eyes and be like yo, Mikey is a liar, no, he wasn't. No, he wasn't you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:So I'm thinking a new generation from Queensbridge like just to continue that you know that would be so good for hip hop.
Speaker 1:It's got to be strong.
Speaker 3:It's got to be strong like the last Queensbridge, push though it's got to be that.
Speaker 2:It's got to be kind of unified and all Now. The last Queensbridge push in my head is a dipset movement, a Jewel Santana movement. What was?
Speaker 1:the name of it.
Speaker 2:Skull Gang. That was the last I mean, besides Skull Gang Bars and Hooks Bars and Hooks Skull Gang wasn't from Queens. Skull Gang was a mixture of people from Harlem and Queens.
Speaker 4:Nah Skull Gang was a mixture of people from Harlem and Queens. Nah Skull Gang was a mixture of people from Harlem and a whole bunch of places North Carolina, jersey. It was a bunch of people.
Speaker 1:Oh, really, you remember Nate Sean Millennium Thug. Yeah, nate Sean.
Speaker 4:I thought he had a promising future. New York City is going through a new revival. Quiet is kept. Y'all just don't see it yet it's about to happen.
Speaker 3:Nah, I can see it, because a lot of the artists are just disappearing. So yeah, so that is like a revolving door who you know and who's going to be known. That has to come to an end. At this point, it really only take one young boy to be consistent and stay out of jail. He's going to get all the money.
Speaker 4:That's all it takes. You got to understand. Drill music in New York City is quietly dying out. You don't see it yet, but it is Because most of these artists ain't getting booked nowhere.
Speaker 3:Oh, I can see it dying out. I don't hear it in the streets much anymore.
Speaker 4:You're not getting books nowhere. You're not getting no money, so these artists are going to have to make something. These young cats are going to have to make something else to generate some money, or be in one of these new jails that they open up in these five boroughs.
Speaker 2:Yo, you know what I've been Go ahead Trav.
Speaker 5:No, I was saying that with the drill I think they thought Fabio was going to be like the Dirk of New York but Fabio ended up getting caught up being the groupie with all the Slow Bucks Queens, all that Hollis and Southside Queens groupies. He got caught up in that because when he came out, he came out hard with the Kanye joint. You know what I mean Talking about he running in and all that Real quick, real quick. Did y'all see this?
Speaker 4:Did y'all see the Summer Jam lineup?
Speaker 5:Yes, I did. This year Horrible.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I hate Summer Jam. I haven't been there. I hate Summer Jam, you don't see no drill artists.
Speaker 5:No, you see Jim Jones. Jim Jones is like the captain for drill, he's like the coach for drill you see A Boogie.
Speaker 4:You see A Boogie who's still holding on. I don't even know how, but he's still holding on. I don't know how.
Speaker 3:How does he stand?
Speaker 4:up I don't know. Salute to how, salute to A Boogie heard no real records that have been popping right now.
Speaker 5:I'm surprised they didn't put out one yet. What's his man? What's his name? Don Q. Yeah, like why y'all holding him back?
Speaker 4:No, he held himself back when he battled Tory Lanez and lost.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was crazy.
Speaker 2:That's some history right there. So now, who's popping right now in New York?
Speaker 5:Nobody.
Speaker 4:Cash Cobain Cash Kobe, cash Kobe.
Speaker 1:Oh, all right, I bet you by next year.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that sound is out of here next year.
Speaker 5:It's over after Summer Jam, because after that you ain't going to hear nothing from him. He's going to get caught up in that whole. Let me tell you something. We just got finished talking about queensbridge. Queensbridge has something in their water, right where you just drink the water and you can rap and you just have it right.
Speaker 3:But there's a section you're gonna die, but you're gonna have it yeah right.
Speaker 5:there's a section in Queens that we miss, that we're not talking about, and it's that. I don't know where Slow Bucks is from, where those suburban Southside.
Speaker 1:Shadyville.
Speaker 5:Yeah, shadyville, that's where it is. So my thing is this Anybody who gets caught up with the groupiness about they start hanging out with Slow B bucks. They get a slow decline on everything. And you don't really, I mean, you pay attention to him and his energy. Everything gets declined because look at you else, you started hanging out with slow bucks, you know you start becoming an addict. You're missing teeth, you know things like that. You start becoming an addict, you're missing teeth, you know and things like that. Now, fabio, hanging out with Slow Bucks, you start catching the habit Locked up. Now Meek Mill Meek Mill, you know, started hanging out with Slow Bucks. Your career started going on a slow decline. You can't put out a hit to save your life at this point.
Speaker 4:No disrespect to Slow Bucks. I ain't got nothing against him as a human being. I don't know him personally, but I wouldn't be hanging out with him after I can't hang out with somebody that got stomped out on stage. I just can't. I got to stay.
Speaker 3:And yo I'm going to be honest with you, who backed that, like yo, that line was trash. Like line was trash I'm sorry A slow bucks clothing line. Let me say this Do y'all remember.
Speaker 4:I had a slow bucks shirt.
Speaker 5:His clothes matched perfectly, but real quick. Do y'all remember after that beating that he took and the chain got robbed? Do you remember the press conference he had and he? Was telling all the people how are we not remembering this? And y'all all talk about no snitch, no snitching.
Speaker 4:Because it's all about who got money in this conference.
Speaker 5:He had a whole press conference.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he did, he did.
Speaker 5:It was crazy.
Speaker 1:And then 50 said yo, 50 said the dude that took the chain was so angry because his shit was nothing but spray painted lead he got stomped out because he was taking pictures with 50 Cent's son.
Speaker 4:That's the wrong thing to do. That's what 50 said.
Speaker 5:They know him because they know how he got. They know 50 Cent before he was 50 Cent. They know him specifically Know not to play with 50 Cent.
Speaker 4:It's just like I don't understand that?
Speaker 5:No, here's the thing.
Speaker 4:Dudes started getting money and they started feeling themselves. This is what happens with a lot of people. You get some money in your pocket, you start becoming a name in this hip-hop world, because hip-hop makes everybody popular. Right, our culture just makes certain people popular. You get popular and then you start filling yourself and then someone like 50 cent or some real gangster out here snaps you back to reality don't let it go to your head.
Speaker 4:Now that is staying in your lane and just being a cool, calm, collective guy. As soon as you took the picture with 56,. Even if you took the picture, I'm not posting it. Let 56 post that.
Speaker 2:Jada just took a picture with 56's son, though, but Jada, jada Kiss, jada Kiss his son and Marquise. They took a picture together, though.
Speaker 4:That's different, that communicates.
Speaker 2:Jadakiss, his son, and.
Speaker 4:Marquise. They took a picture together, though, jadakiss playing a daddy role with his son. Right, right, that's different.
Speaker 3:That communicates something totally different. That's not him standing with Marquise by himself taking a pic. That's totally different. Yo, I got my son, I seen your son, we took a picture together. I'm putting it out so you can see it Like that's different.
Speaker 4:And it ain't no slick subliminals On the bottom ring.
Speaker 3:They done already went through everything that they had to go through when 50 was getting in the way Of that Styles P album Dropping and all of that.
Speaker 1:Or in the school.
Speaker 3:When 50 was getting in the way and then 50. What he did, though? He pulled up in Yonkers by himself.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Because you know, he's really Curtis. Curtis is really 50. Like he's like Batman and Bruce Wayne, yeah, and like what did he say, bro?
Speaker 1:So he pulled up in.
Speaker 3:Yonkers by himself. You know what I'm saying. They squashed that beef.
Speaker 5:That's good. That's good money. You know what I'm saying. 50 cent Fat Joe was just with Supreme son with the jacket on, but I'm pretty sure a conversation was had when he put that jacket on. It's like now that they got things in order, 50 cent understands what's what it ain't like. Slow Bucks was in the picture with his middle finger with his son.
Speaker 4:It ain't like Preem's son is a threat to 50 at this point anyway. Right, because Prince, because Prince Preem's uncle I mean Lil' Preem's uncle barked on Preem for even speaking on Lil' Preem for even speaking on 50.
Speaker 5:Cent.
Speaker 4:This is a good place to be talking about this little kid. You wasn't even there. You wasn't even there, you wasn't even alive. Shut up, mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:Yeah, mm-hmm yeah.
Speaker 4:And.
Speaker 3:I respect that so much yo, because man, that's that like not for nothing. That's that time, bro, like they really come from that time and it's so sad that it's like that could still be going on, kind of sort of right now, if it wasn't for wild queens and them guns, you understand, killing that young, killing that rookie cop and that set the city on fire, yo, when that young man died you know what I'm saying. God rest his soul and God bless his family, because you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:He put his life on the line to save citizens. So I respect him right. But when that young man died the city got turned upside down. After that Police force was in effect Crack, everyone's bodies was over In full effect, in full effect, in full effect. All of that yo I know. And then you know what that's kind of, when, like that's kind of like when they changed up who's allowed to police what neighborhoods. That you understand, because you remember there was a time when the poke, when the neighborhood beat cop knew everybody on the block and everybody knew him. Things were policed, police a certain way. Then, after that situation happened, now you got people who not from your neighborhood, policing your neighborhood. They have no attachments to it, no emotional attachment to you, to anything in the surroundings, nor the community, just to the law.
Speaker 2:You see what.
Speaker 3:I'm saying they ain't got crazy from there.
Speaker 2:Yo, real quick, quick. Now I want to go on to the next one dope conversation national uh protests in april april.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we saw that earlier this weekend. It's the hands-off protest nationwide. It's called hands-off hands off what that's what I said it's called elon trump and donald trump hands off, or hands off our benefits, hands off our constitutional rights, hands off our um retirement and social security.
Speaker 3:I'm good yeah that's why I say I'm a black ass.
Speaker 4:Let me say this is what they voted for yo, I don't want to hear that this is what y'all all secretly voted for. Y'all didn't want to support the black woman who was trying to give us a little bit of change. Y'all wanted to support the guy who told y'all, I don't like y'all, I'm just here to get bread. He told y'all.
Speaker 3:But he's fighting so that we can maintain those things. He's not on the other side of that.
Speaker 5:But yo did y'all hear about? Did y'all hear about?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm not a fan of that yo, I'm not a fan of that.
Speaker 5:Did you hear about Trump? There's a rumor, I believe, that Trump said he's going to get rid of Section 8 for people that's, I think, 40 and under.
Speaker 1:Damn Chetosa.
Speaker 5:I saw something earlier about that. I mean, you know how he feels about you know just being wasteful with money and just being lazy, if you sound good wait.
Speaker 3:So then you're gonna house people 40 and over no 40, oh 40 and under.
Speaker 5:So that's what I'm saying. So you're going to permit Section 8 For people 41 and above that, probably need it More or less, like senior citizens.
Speaker 3:You don't think the youth need it To get into apartments, seriously.
Speaker 5:I don't think so. I feel like this, to be honest with you. I feel like a lot of people inherit section eight and welfare right and when you inherit it, they use it today to. It's like I don't even think they use it to their benefit, like you, passing it down to the next generation, where it's only supposed to be a stepping stone.
Speaker 5:I mean a stepping stone where you're 23 years old, on welfare, not going to work, not doing nothing. Section 8, why can't you go look for a job? No, but you can have a job and still have Section 8.
Speaker 4:Section 8 just helps you with a percentage of your rent.
Speaker 3:That's not the same as welfare.
Speaker 4:That's coming out of my money yo.
Speaker 1:Oh, you know what he sound like. He sound like that Nas intro. That's my money yo. You see him do this across the street Yo.
Speaker 4:Like how many females we know get pregnant just so they can have sex with me and they keep having babies just so they can keep our money. I keep, I gotta keep saying for you to see and not do nothing.
Speaker 1:And they all got the Big old dunk.
Speaker 3:The funny thing about that is that's exactly Like that's exactly why Welfare was created.
Speaker 5:Welfare was created.
Speaker 3:It's not inheritance, no, but what I'm trying to say is Welfare was Was not well, to my understanding, right welfare was created, I think, in england, like eons ago and it was, and it was created to keep the poor from robbing everybody else. Like give them something so that they can sustain. Now poverty is passed down from generation to generation like it really is. So to a certain extent section 8 is supposed to be passed down generation to generation just to keep those people from getting too desperate and then robbing you more than just paying the tax. But I'm saying, imagine how much worse it's going to be when there's nothing. That's what I'm saying Now. When you don't have the younger generation who's able to get Section 8 and move into any kind of housing, then those are the people that's more likely to do something more desperate in the street than somebody older. I'm not saying that you shouldn't have Section 8 for older people. I'm not saying that you shouldn't have Section 8 For older people. I'm just saying maybe be more selective With Section 8 from 40 down Bro.
Speaker 4:This is all a plan To make all these young. This is a plan, systematic plan. It's a systematic plan To put these people in. They're going to remove you from Section 8. Remember, this is the whole point. They want you to wild out. They want you to wild out so they can put you in one of these new five jails that are going to open up in all these boroughs. They're going to go.
Speaker 3:They got one right down the block from me.
Speaker 4:They don't really understand it. The streets is dead. If you keep playing out here, you're going to be in there for the rest of your life, while the rest of us who are trying to chill are going to be in these little smart cities chilling. They're trying to get rid of all of this. They're trying to get rid of all of them. Old ways, with this old way of thinking and thinking, you're going to be out here. That's why the drug game is dead and everybody trying to move to scamming. But scamming is about to be up out of here too.
Speaker 3:That's done, it's over. I think scamming is going to get you cooked. So much worse than getting caught with a pack or getting caught with a direct sale or something like that Scamming is going to get you cooked.
Speaker 1:All you PPP loan cats. That's your problem, right there. That's your problem Problem.
Speaker 4:Scamming is going to be a while, for a little bit more, because they're going to start. The streets, or what we like to call the streets, new youth is going to figure out a way to use AI to scam.
Speaker 5:Right.
Speaker 3:I ain't going to lie yo, this whole crew's like Around right, and it's whole crews like around right. That's what they do. Yeah, they scam crew. Yeah, white-collar kids, they'll go to school. They don't do nothing. They outside with Benzies and all of that.
Speaker 4:I knew the game was changing a few years back when I started seeing kids that was like 18 and all of them had what's it called Foreigns. And I'm like, hold on, y'all younger than me, way younger than me. Where y'all getting this bread from? Because I know the drug game is dead out here. So where y'all getting this money from? Y'all scamming.
Speaker 3:And then I started seeing more and more kids getting bagged up on these bank scams and this and that, and I'm like thanks yo yo.
Speaker 2:I don't know what kid figured that out, but that kid spread that secret fast yo the atm scams too, though, yeah, putting the joint but I'm talking about the joint at the bank.
Speaker 3:Like the joint with. That is an old hustle and it was like you have to know this if you're like 22 and under. Like this is just common knowledge now.
Speaker 1:Like oh, I know how to do that.
Speaker 3:That's common knowledge. Like that's crazy. That's.
Speaker 1:It'll bag a girl until I open up a company in the name.
Speaker 4:These young cats know me having no 9 to 5s. I'm like yo dog when you getting this bread to buy this type of whip, Because I work a 9 to 5, and I know what it costs to buy this type of bread. I mean, I know what type of bread it costs to buy this type of car. In this fashion, you got a whole Balenciaga outfit on Word. That's four racks right there, Right? What do you do?
Speaker 3:No payments, no payments, no payments. Yo no payments.
Speaker 3:And it's so funny, I seen a kid, I seen a kid he put it up on, I guess, like on his TikTok or something like that. You know, he got the mask on and all that. Somehow, someway, he done found a way to get his hands on so many money orders. Yo, yo, he had like no nonsense, he might have had like 60 money orders, 60 money orders, yo, he just going for them and he driving from joint to joint cashing them out, cashing them out, cashing them out. I said yo, that's scummy, that is so scummy, that is so scummy.
Speaker 1:And they bagging older chicks too. And they bagging older chicks too. The older chicks are falling for the older women.
Speaker 3:They falling for it. They falling for it, he's going to find me out. Yo, yo he didn't like G Erbo.
Speaker 2:Yo, you know, on that note, we got to cut out of here. Thank y'all for coming out this evening. Really appreciate y'all. Great conversation, as usual, and we're out of here, peace.