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Supreme Wisdom Reveals the Truth About Master Fard Muhammad's Mission - Eric Muhammad

Ron Brown and Mikey Fever aka Sour Micky

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Who was Master Fard Muhammad, and why is his history so often described as "mysterious"? What exactly is the Mother Plane that many mistake for UFOs? Are the prophets of the Nation of Islam truly deceased, or do they live on to fulfill divine prophecy?

Minister Eric Muhammad cuts through misconceptions surrounding Nation of Islam teachings in this riveting conversation with host Ron Brown. With remarkable clarity, Minister Muhammad reveals the detailed history of Master Farad Muhammad, born in Mecca in 1877 and specially prepared for his mission to "raise the Black man from death to life." Far from mysterious, Minister Muhammad explains that Master Farad's history has been thoroughly documented but deliberately mystified by those unwilling to accept it.

The discussion ventures into extraordinary territory as Minister Muhammad describes the Mother Plane – a massive half-mile square aircraft housing 1,500 smaller planes equipped with powerful bombs. These aren't alien spacecraft but advanced technology created by Black scientists and piloted by specially trained Black men. "These planes are flown by your brothers and mine," he states emphatically, challenging popular UFO narratives.

Perhaps most thought-provoking is Minister Muhammad's assertion that Black people are the original "makers of Earth and universe." He questions how a people who created planetary systems and celestial bodies could be portrayed as having achieved nothing significant until white civilization emerged. Drawing from Supreme Wisdom teachings, he articulates why both Master Farad Muhammad and the Honorable Elijah Muhammad must still be alive to fulfill prophecies that remain incomplete.

Whether you're familiar with Nation of Islam teachings or encountering these concepts for the first time, this conversation offers rare insight into a be

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Speaker 1:

What's going on? Everybody out there, it's Ron Brown LMP, the People's Fitness Professional. Thank you guys for coming out viewing. We have no viewers right now, but you know, sometimes our people come late to the party. They come about. What do they call it? Color people time. Yes, sir, cpt brother, that's what we called it. Cpt. That's what happens. Usually people get on the live like 30 minutes after it started. So it's all good. Thank you for coming out this evening.

Speaker 1:

Eric Muhammad, minister Eric Muhammad, you've been on the show quite some time. I really appreciate your support. You're like the star of this show here. Whenever you come on, people want to hear what Minister Eric Muhammad has to say. So here we have him. We have him today to talk about a few things, things that I don't quite understand, about the teachings of the Nation of Islam, and you know I want to you know, talk about him. I want to first start off with WD Farad and his contribution to the Nation of Islam. Did he create the teachings? What do you know about him and his mysterious? He has a mystique about him and there aren't many pictures of him and his history is kind of mysterious. Can you break down what you know about his history, peace have been peace.

Speaker 2:

As far as Master Farad Muhammad's history, there is very, very clear and very, very clear and very, very detailed history of Master Farad Muhammad. That is from himself, through his messenger, the most honorable Elijah Muhammad. But whenever his history is spoken of, it's always spoken of in terms of the words that you use mystique, mysterious and so forth. This is because the history of Master Farad Muhammad that is in the Bible and in the Holy Quran and in the detailed teaching of that history from himself through the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad, is not accepted as history. It's viewed as mythology, it's viewed as something made up. One of the things that people who disbelieve in the teachings of the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad like to say is well, that's your religious belief system. A man tells us of his history and he gives it to us in significant detail and he points it out to us in the Bible and in the Holy Quran. And because we don't want to accept it, we invent another history that is not detailed, that does not have clarity, and we call the invented history from ourselves mystery, mystique, mysterious. Master Farad Muhammad gave us his history. There's a book that has been put together by Messenger Elijah Muhammad, propagation Society, mips, and the title of that book is the True History of Master Farad Muhammad. A whole book on it, and yet we're saying it's mysterious. We're saying it's mysterious because we don't want to accept the history that has been taught to us. Master Farad Muhammad is not a mystery man. Master Farad Muhammad was not a model, so he didn't come here to do photo shoots. You know what I mean. There's no photo album of Master Farad Muhammad. He didn't come here to do photo shoots. You know what I mean. There's no photo album of Master Farad Muhammad. He didn't come here to make a photo album. Master Farad Muhammad came here to raise the black man from death to life, and so, yes, we only have one picture of him. We didn't even need that one. Yes, we only have one picture of him. We didn't even need that one.

Speaker 2:

Bottom line is Master Farad Muhammad, as the most honorable Elijah Muhammad teaches us, was born in was a white woman. His father was going to have him to come to search for us and to do a work among us, and so he went up into the hills the messenger teaches us to get a white woman to prepare her to give birth to his son so that he would look something like the white man, because he wouldn't be able to be successful in a solid white country if he came as a solid black man. The messenger also teaches us that in order for him to give justice to both peoples, black and white, he had to be made part of both black and white. And so you find Master Farad Muhammad's history again in both the Bible and in the Holy Quran. Master Farad Muhammad is prophesied in both books, by several of the prophets of the Bible and also by prophet Muhammad in the Holy Quran. There's much more that could be said, but that would be a lecture and we only have an hour.

Speaker 1:

Right, indeed, indeed. So as far as his, his history, can you just give me a brief history Like where is he from, uh, and where did he like, did he pass on that whole thing?

Speaker 2:

OK, Master Farad Mohammed was born in Mecca, arabia, on February the 26th 1877. Like I said, he was specially prepared to do the work among us that has resulted in the supreme wisdom among us. When Master Farad Muhammad was only six years old, he saw himself pushing the DuPonts and the DuPonts and the Kennedys, or the DuPont's and the Rothschild's, whoever were the real rich of that particular time. There's two families that are mentioned and I know one of them was the DuPont's, but the other I can't remember exactly. But he saw himself at the age of six pushing these two very rich families into a lake of fire. And these two very rich families really represent the wealth and power of the white race. It's not just those two families. All right.

Speaker 2:

Now, when he was a young boy, his father would take him to buy, as the messenger said in Savior's Day 1973 lecture, he would buy him words of wisdom from this great one and that great one and he would pay high prices for it to give to his son, to his son and as he said in the God tribe of Shabazz, if you put that in YouTube, that lecture will come up. As it says in the God tribe of Shabazz, we know those of us, who have supreme wisdom, that history is written every 25,000 years. Yes, sir, the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad teaches us, whenever our history lasts for 25,000 years, what has transpired is put away in a book in a vault in Mecca, and no one is able to get access to that book unless, as they say, he's a wonder man. The most honorable Elijah Muhammad said he used those words unless he's a wonder man who is going to bring about a universal change in civilization. The point that I'm making is this we are taught that no God coming after a previous God is able to pattern his new civilization after the wisdom of the previous God, and so if you are the God of one cycle, you don't get to peep into the 25,000 year cycle of what was done before you, unless you are someone who is to bring about a universal change in civilization. The point I'm making with that is Master Farad Muhammad, unlike most gods, was given access to that vault and to the cycles previous to the present cycle that we are living in now.

Speaker 2:

The messenger teaches that Master Farad Muhammad could recite by heart the history of the Black Nation 150,000 years. That's six Qurans and the typical average. God only knows his own cycle. You follow me? Yes, sir.

Speaker 2:

And so Master Farad Muhammad is unlike most of the gods who have come before him, unlike most of the gods who have come before him, and he is the greatest and the wisest of all of the gods that came before him, because he was produced by the longing in us to produce a God from us who would do two things One who would be greater in wisdom and be able to remove the civilization of Yaqub, but two, to perfect the creation that the first God brought into existence Master Farad Muhammad. In his person, we come to the head of everything, and this is why he's called the everlasting father and this is why none of the scientists could see into the civilization that he would bring into existence. And so their writings in Bible and Quran take us up to the end of Yaqub's world and a small glimpse into the new world that will be brought in by Master Farad Muhammad, but not into it in any depth because they, like the scripture says, no eye has seen, no ear has heard, nor has heart been able to conceive. So, master Farad Muhammad, being born in Mecca and being the greatest and the wisest of all the gods that came before him, having the power to remove the white man's world, yaqub's world, and bring in a new world. The white man's world, ya'aqob's world, and bring in a new world, wanted to, as the scripture teaches, find that lost sheep before destroying the wolves, because that lost sheep is not responsible for the evils and the sins that they were born and shaped in. And so Master Farad Muhammad came to do two things kill the white man, save the black man. Kill the white man, save the black man.

Speaker 2:

And, like I say very often in my lectures, the reason I am a member of the Nation of Islam and a follower of the most honorable Elijah Muhammad as opposed to being a Moor, as opposed to being a Black Panther, as opposed to being a Garveyism I taste Afrocentricity, I taste Black militants and taste all of these Black conscious ideologies and philosophies. And I just happen to like the taste of the teachings of the most honorable Elijah Muhammad best, and so I represent that. No, the reason I'm with Elijah is because Elijah is with Farad. Marcus Garvey can't kill the white man. Noble Drew Ali can't kill the white man. Nobody else can kill the white man.

Speaker 2:

So it's not about whether I like a teaching or dislike a teaching, because I'm going to tell you straight up I like the teaching of Noble Drew Ali and I like the teaching of Marcus Garvey and I definitely like the idea of picking up weapons and killing white folks. But the bottom line is, Master Farad Mohammed has the power to kill the white man and I don't care what kind of black teaching you have, if you can't kill white folks, what's the use of it? Period, no teaching is going to do anything without killing the white man. Yes, sir, you were going to say.

Speaker 1:

Yes, this is a question my chat asked, but this is a question that I had in mind. So, killing the? Okay, so, farad, you're saying WD Farad or Master Farad Muhammad, has the power to kill the white man. Okay, so are we talking figuratively or are we talking literally? Killing the white man figuratively, won we talking uh?

Speaker 2:

figuratively or are we talking literally? Killing the white man figuratively won't solve our problem. The white man has to be dead and gone in order for our problem to be solved. He's got to go. The lessons teach it. The lessons teach it, 39 and 40 of the one through 40. They teach it.

Speaker 1:

It's clear oh my God, okay, okay, I was good, you did it. You did it already.

Speaker 2:

We don't have to go there. All right to mikey fever.

Speaker 1:

I saw you agreeing peace to mikey fever yeah, yeah, ben, uh, it's uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, we got to talk a bit, uh, so, um, now, moving on to mother plane, you have so you the mother plane. Can you explain the mother plane?

Speaker 2:

yes, okay. Now it's one thing to say Master Farad Mohammed has the power to kill the white man. It's another thing to be able to explain how. If he has the power to kill the white man, why does he have the power? How does he have the power? What is the power he has to kill the white man?

Speaker 2:

Now we're talking about that mother plane. The most honorable Elijah Muhammad teaches us that the mother plane was built for the purpose of destroying this world. It is a plane, not a ship. It's not a spaceship. It was built right here on the earth, on the island of Nippon. It was built by black, brown, red and yellow scientists. Different ones built different parts of it in isolation from each other. None of them knew what the other was building. Even those that were building it didn't know what they were building. They just had the assignment to build that particular part of the plane that they built. The plane that they built. Now it's a plane.

Speaker 2:

All of this verbiage about space no, this is a human built planet, like a satellite. It's a human built planet, built right here on the earth, but it is built with a technology that is almost unimaginable. The technology of this plane. It's a half mile by a half mile square. It's like an aircraft carrier. Okay, that flies what I mean when I say it's like an aircraft carrier.

Speaker 2:

This particular plane, half mile by half mile square, has other planes that lodge in it, and so these 1,500 small planes because that's the number of the bombs that they carry are equipped with drills and timers, and the explosives of these bombs are 30% more powerful than any bombs the white man has. The white man's bombs use 70% dynamite. These bombs use 100% dynamite. They have drills and timers. The timers are set for the drills to dig into the earth. When they hit the earth, they're set to drill one mile deep into the earth and when they drill one mile, the timer causes the bomb to explode and it brings up a mountain one mile high.

Speaker 2:

So we're talking 1,500 planes with three bombs each. That's 4,500 bombs. Three bombs each, that's 4,500 bombs, 100% dynamite. All of these bombs, the messenger teaches us, will fall on land. None of them will land in water. Three of the planes will be kept. So we're talking about three thousand, no, four thousand four hundred and ninety seven planes Times three bombs each, all of them going to be dropped on America, and the other three planes using those other nine bombs are going to be dropped on Europe.

Speaker 1:

Okay, Now how does this come about? Like, where can people find this literature or this information?

Speaker 2:

Well, we do have. There is a book put together called the Mother Plane that also can be purchased from Messenger Elijah Muhammad Propagation Society. I'll send you the link, okay, okay.

Speaker 1:

Now.

Speaker 2:

I think I can put it in here now. I'm not sure. I don't want to mess this video up, so I don't want to start playing with this laptop. I'm not a 12-year-old kid, so I'm not as good with this technology as they are.

Speaker 1:

Right, right. So who came up with this concept and are there actual facts of these planes' existence?

Speaker 2:

Oh, absolutely. The messenger teaches us this plane is not a secret. It can be seen twice a week. There have been so many sightings of it. It's ridiculous. It's no longer a question and it hasn't really been a question for decades. There is no question of this plane's existence. Too many people have seen it. There are too many eyewitness descriptions of it. They all match each other and the devil does not want us to know that what the messenger teaches us is the truth. Why would he admit that what the nation of Islam teaches is the truth? So he refers to them as unidentified flying objects or unidentified aerial phenomena. He makes it mysterious, and I'll give you another proof. I don't say it will be accepted, but I'll give you another proof.

Speaker 2:

Whenever the white man is talking about ancient civilization, advanced civilization in the past, civilization, that beats his meaning. When you look back in history, you don't find him as advanced in civilization as this particular civilization that he's talking about. Have you ever noticed? He always describes them as a mysterious people. Yes, think about it. He always says that it was a mysterious people, and then he always says that it's also a mystery as to how and why that civilization disappeared. You can tell that it's a Black civilization as soon as he starts mystifying it. If it was a white civilization, he comes right out and gives you all the details of it, but when he finds an ancient civilization advanced beyond his own, he always mystifies it.

Speaker 2:

Well, now we have planes that are built with a technology from an advanced civilization, and so what does he do when he describes them? He mystifies them. But there are so many eyewitness testimonies to both the larger plane and the smaller planes. I mean people from the devil's military. Some of his best educated and best trained pilots have given eyewitness testimony to these planes and described them in some detail. So again, there's no doubt that these planes exist, but they are not from outer space. There are no aliens flying these planes. These planes are flown by your brothers and mine. They are pilots that are trained from the age of six. That's when they start. They train from the age of six to fly these planes.

Speaker 2:

Now who thinks I'm saying to you, six-year-old kids are flying planes. I'm saying that their training to fly the planes begins at the age of six. That's all I'm saying, not that they're flying unidentified objects in the sky when they're six years old. That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying their training begins at the age of six. If you're doing something of great significance and import, it's not something that you can start at the age of 20 and be doing at the age of 21. We got to start you early. This is why your best boxers, your best wrestlers, your best martial artists, you start training them as children.

Speaker 2:

I used to box and I also used to wrestle, and I never could make a lot of headway in on either of the teams the boxing team or the wrestling team because everybody I was competing against have been boxing since they were in the wombs of their mothers. Almost you can't start late and think you're going to reach a level of proficiency as those that started when they were very, very, very, very young in age, and so go ahead.

Speaker 1:

Exactly yeah. Yeah, I was getting ready to say I started martial arts when I was nine.

Speaker 2:

See.

Speaker 1:

And like now, I'm 44 and I'm still able to move really smooth and you know, with speed, you know people talk about over 40, you start slowing down. I feel like I don't. I don't feel like it.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean yes, sir, now, and I'll say this, someone who just joined, uh, a martial arts uh, what do you call a school? Someone who just started studying martial arts at the age of 40 and now they're 44, they can't even say hi to you, they can't even say martial arts to you, because you started at nine. Someone who starts at nine to 44, that's 33 years. Someone who starts at, say, 9 to 44 that's 33 years. Someone who starts at 20 and at the age of 53, is still not going to be as good as you, right, because you started at nine, right?

Speaker 1:

yep, I understand movement and like kinesiology in general, and, oh, absolutely so. Uh, you know, and then my body is just like what do you call lack of better term primed for for for movement, like moving in multi-planar directions, and you know, and my whole my brain is just different.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, exactly. Well, these young men are trained from the age of six. What they are taught at six, and then at seven, and then at eight, nine, and when they go from this to that, I don't know. The messenger didn't teach us, but their training starts at the age of six.

Speaker 1:

Now, where do they train? And is that still going on now? And who are these? Uh, um, asiatics or african people, however you want to put it. When it comes to our people, when I'm talking to our people, I, like you, don't know which name to give. Give them black, give them more, give them African-American. What are we giving? So what are these brothers and sisters? Is that still going on now? Where is the training based? And you know, can you give me more context there?

Speaker 2:

No further details are available, nor would it be wise for there to be further details available. If the white man knew where they were training, he'd bomb it If the white. The white man desires to attack these planes as we speak, the only reason he hasn't launched an attack against any of these planes is because he can't do so. They fly at speeds and they have maneuverability that does not allow the white man to attack them, and this is what scares him. They are so fast and so maneuverable that they are able to do flights over the white man's most sensitive military installations and there's nothing he can do about it. The white man reports that these planes hover over, fly over his most sensitive military installations, and he can't as much as shoot a spit ball at them.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so you're saying that these are our people. You can't give any information about where they train and things like that.

Speaker 2:

Oh, absolutely not. If I could, the white man would know and he would attack them.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so would you say that these, these planes existed during ancient times and that's what possibly help build the pyramids?

Speaker 2:

The pyramids have nothing to do with these planes, but the plane and its technology is not new. The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad teaches us that these same planes are the types of planes that were used to bring up mountains on the earth. So it's not a brand new technology by any stretch of the imagination. And again, let's just go back to the very, very first thing that we learn. Well, some of us don't learn that first. Some of us get math and alphabets first, but the student enrollment. Who is the original man? The original man is the Asiatic black man, the what Maker.

Speaker 1:

The maker, the maker. Yep, mm, hmm, the maker, the maker.

Speaker 2:

Yep, ok, we don't need to go to anything else. The maker of what? The earth, the planet Earth. We're talking about a people who have science that brought the sun into existence, that brought the moon into existence. We are the makers of the earth and the universe. How much more easy is it to make a plane we literally created, brought into existence?

Speaker 2:

Lesson number one, number nine planets are something grown or made from the beginning. Well, who grew them? Who made them? That would be us. So if we grow and or make a sphere, we call this sphere Earth. It weighs six sextillion tons.

Speaker 2:

I mean, just check the science. Here's a ball of liquid, solid and gas that weighs six sextillion tons. It's 24,896 miles around. Miles around. It's spinning, spinning so fast that it's spinning at the rate of 1,037 and a third miles per hour, while it's flying through space at 67,000 miles per hour. You want to talk about engineering, you want to talk about aeronautic technology, and while it's doing all of that, it's producing life Billions of human beings, untold billions of animals, insects, water life. It's an ecosystem. It's doing all of that while spinning at 1,037 and a third, flying at 67,000 miles per hour, tilting in and out so that all areas of it, get the proper amount of sunshine and seasons. It's a. It's an indescribable miracle of engineering. So if you can do that and that's just one planet, what about the other eight? What about the billions of stars that we put out there in space? If you can do all of that, it's easy to build a plane that's.

Speaker 1:

That's no problem right right now, that which which you just built on is is actually a whole another lecture actually. Uh, because you know, being a making, an owner, creamer, planet earth, father, civilization and god in the universe, people look at that degree and they just go making it of your own universe, your family, and you know they don't look at it like literally.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

And I think it's because they're probably misinformed or they don't understand the power within themselves. Right, they can't fathom. How can we create this?

Speaker 2:

Exactly, yeah, exactly, but we did, and there's no evidence that we didn't. There's no evidence anyone else did. We have no idea who and what we are, because the white man has reduced us to such a low level. We just can't see ourselves in that exalted state, just can't see ourselves in that exalted state. We see the white man in an exalted state, though, and I just don't understand. Well, I really do, but yeah, I do, yeah, I, I really do, I. I wish I would stop saying that, but it just, it's all in the lessons. It's aggravating as hell, brother. I mean, you see the white man sending vehicles so far out into space that he's exploring. How far has he gotten now? Hasn't he gotten as far as Saturn, maybe beyond Saturn?

Speaker 1:

I'm not sure, but I know.

Speaker 2:

I mean, he's gotten way out there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And he's just the white man out there. Yeah, and he's just the white man. And we somehow think that we have been here so many more millions of years than he is and all we've ever done is pick berries and build mud huts, until the white man just woke up and did all of these wonderful, technologically advanced things Anything the white man has been able to do and keep in mind. The white man's technological advances experienced an extreme explosion After the most honorable Elijah Muhammad was arrested and they got all that supreme wisdom from him. They learned a lot from the literature that they took from the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad in 1942. And if you look at their technological advancement pre-42 compared to post-42, you'll see that there was an absolute explosion.

Speaker 2:

And so for us to believe that the white man has achieved all that he has achieved in just 6,000 years, if we give his whole time on the planet. And yet we've been here millions of years. Even the white man says we've been here millions of years, we've been here millions of years and think we never did anything. The white man can't build a pyramid today, brother. The white man can't build a pyramid today.

Speaker 1:

He doesn't know how so now, as far as the nation of Islam, how is it taught the mother plane, ufos and aliens, you know, let's say you know that doesn't belong to the faction that you belong to, for lack of a better term faction, the faction that you belong to, for lack of a better term faction, the faction that you belong to, like as far as, like you know, farrakhan and things like that, did they leave the get rid of these teachings, or?

Speaker 2:

I have been gone from Farrakhan's organization for so long that I assume that they still teach the same thing about the mother plane. But I can't say for certain. I assume they do, especially since Farrakhan has been teaching for so many years. The plane follows him around to protect him, which is ridiculous.

Speaker 1:

Oh, he said the plane follows him around to protect him, which is ridiculous. Oh, he said the plane follows him around to protect him, which is ridiculous.

Speaker 2:

It's beyond absurd.

Speaker 1:

And he taught that when you were around there. Yes, Okay. So now as far as the mother plane, what is taught to the Nation of Islam that this mother plane is going to pull us into the plane at some point and destroy Earth? How is it taught?

Speaker 2:

I have no teaching that the mother plane is going to pull us anywhere.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

The mother plane the messenger teaches was built not for the purpose of taking us on cruises. It wasn't built as a passenger plane, but it was built for the purpose of destroying this world. Now we do have to be taken to a zone of safety, but the only teaching I know of as far as being taken to this zone of safety is a teaching that deals with us being on the ground. There'll be men on each corner and they'll be directing us which direction to go in. They'll ask us who are you with, and if you say you with the devils, they'll escort you this way. If you say you with the Muslims, they're going to escort you another way and you'll be taken to a zone of safety. But as far as being beamed up like Scotty no, I know of no such teaching as that at all Okay and the teachings?

Speaker 1:

they don't mention anything about aliens at all.

Speaker 2:

No, not at all. Now, the teaching does mention that there is life on other planets, but as far as aliens from other planets visiting this planet, no sir, absolutely not. No one can survive on any other planet than the planet that produces them. You can't eat anything on another planet. It will kill you. You can't drink anything on another planet. It will kill you. You can't even breathe the atmosphere on another planet. It will kill you. You can't survive without that that comes from the planet that produced you. You can't. These other planets are in their own sphere, they're in their own lane and that's the way it has to happen. You know, interplanetary alien invasions and integration and all of that. That's like trying to put black ants in the same mound with red ants. It just can't happen, okay gotcha now.

Speaker 1:

Um, for the rest of the podcast today I want to talk about Master Farah Muhammad. It's just like the lessons WD Farah Muhammad. You know, master Farah Muhammad and Honorable Elijah Muhammad, when you brothers talk about, they're not dead, they're still alive, and things like that. Can you explain that?

Speaker 2:

Yes, the best way to explain it is to take it from the supreme wisdom. Now the one to 40. To 40. Nostradamus, lesson number two who made Holy Quran or Bible? How long ago Will you tell us? Why does Islam renew our history every 25,000 years? Right, the Holy Quran or Bible is made by the original people. Who is Allah, the Supreme being? The Black man from Asia? Right, it goes on further to say that the Black man makes history to equal his home circumference, which is approximately 25,000 miles Now we know that the history that we write of the Black nation is written in advance.

Speaker 2:

We don't make history. And then, after 25,000 years Now, and it gets so detailed that we even know in advance the name of any great and significant individual who's gonna do something in that history. So the knowledge of social engineering I'm just using that term, okay, the knowledge of social science I'll use that term being able to predict what a society is going to do, our knowledge of that is so advanced that we can tell you what's going to happen for the next 25,000 years. Now there's a point to all of this.

Speaker 2:

Now, this history, the truth of it, you can find it in the Bible, you can find it in the Holy Quran, but it's written in symbolic language, and the reason that that becomes significant is you can't make the scientists' writings of history lies. They don't write lies, lies, they don't write lies. The mathematics that they use to make their predictions is impeccable, and so whatever they say is going to happen, trust and believe it is going to happen, because the mathematical calculations that predict it are right and exact. It says that in the lesson, too, right, the nation of Islam is all wise and does everything right and exact. And so to understand the history of Master Farad Muhammad, to understand the history of the most honorable Elijah Muhammad, you must go to the writings of the scientists who saw the messenger and saw Master Farad Muhammad thousands of years before they were even born, and wrote what they would do, when they would do it, how they would do it, wrote their beginning and end so to speak.

Speaker 2:

That is Now. There is nothing in the scripture of the Bible or of the Holy Quran that points to either one of them being dead, nothing. There is much in both Bible and Holy Quran that is yet to be fulfilled, not just by one, but by both. And so if either one of them is dead or both of them are dead and all has not yet been fulfilled, then why are we calling lesson number two supreme wisdom? For what? Why are we calling the black man all wise? Why are we saying we do everything right and exact when we wrote a history of what these men would do and then they died before they did it?

Speaker 2:

Cut it out. Either you accept the supreme wisdom as true or you don't. You can't have it both ways. You just can't have it both ways. Elijah Muhammad has not done all that the scientists wrote he would do. Master Farad Muhammad has not done all that the scientists wrote that he would do. Now they wrote lies. Or there is more for them to do, and if they're dead they can't do it, or they are still alive and will yet do it.

Speaker 1:

OK, can you explain what the scientists described they would do?

Speaker 2:

First and foremost they would, or Master Farad Mohammed, through the most honorable bully, elijah Muhammad, would bring down America. The messenger said. You must remember it was not Jehovah that destroyed Pharaoh, he made Moses to do it.

Speaker 1:

And so, like Brother Minister Kevin Ali, who taught today was mentioning we are given the history of Elijah Muhammad as if it was Moses 4,000 years ago.

Speaker 2:

We are given the history of Master Farad Muhammad as if it was some some spook named Jehovah 4,000 years ago. When you're reading about Moses, you are literally reading about Elijah Muhammad. When you are reading about Jehovah, you are literally reading about Master Farad Muhammad. And so what the Bible says Jehovah did is really what Farad would do. What the Bible says Moses did is really what Elijah Muhammad would do, and this is what we must understand. So if Moses was made by Jehovah to be the one to destroy Pharaoh, that means Elijah Muhammad is the one that will destroy America, and not Master Farad Muhammad. Now, language let's not get hooked up on language.

Speaker 2:

The most honorable Elijah Muhammad can't do nothing without Master Farad Muhammad. Whatever the most honorable Elijah Muhammad can't do nothing without Master Farad Muhammad. Whatever the most honorable Elijah Muhammad does, is really Master Farad Muhammad doing it through him. Understand. So Moses is the one that brought Pharaoh down, not Jehovah. That means that Elijah would be the one to bring America down and not Master Farad Muhammad.

Speaker 2:

Also, master Farad Muhammad is the God who would bring about that universal government of peace wherein we all can live in peace together. Well, where's that government? We don't have that yet Nobody's living in peace right now, and so there's still yet work to do. There is guidance that is predicted in the Bible and also in the Quran that will come in these last days to guide the people in the new world. The Bible will not be the book of guidance in the hereafter. The Holy Quran that we have presently will not be the book of guidance for the hereafter, and that's why, with respect to that guidance that will come, it says no eye has seen, no ear has heard, nor has heart been able to conceive.

Speaker 2:

And so the messenger teaches us, in message to the black man, that there's two other books coming, one for us and one for the Orthodox Muslim world. Well, if they're both dead, where are these books coming from? What they do, give them to somebody, what they died and left them in their will, and whoever they left it to in their will, is going to come and bring these books and lead us. Cut it out. Bottom line. There is too much to be done that the scientists wrote those two men would do. If they don't do it, then we must stop talking about the supreme wisdom in the terms that we talk about it, because it ain't right, it ain't exact about it, because it ain't right. It ain't exact, and so we must, we must, we. Maybe we're pretty wise, but we sure as hell ain't all wise. So I choose to stick to the supreme wisdom, being just that supreme with respect to wisdom. So whatever that wisdom says about Elijah Muhammad, that's what I stick to.

Speaker 1:

Whatever that wisdom says about Master Farad Muhammad, that's what I stick to okay, now, in the Moorish paradigm, or the Moorish world, if you will, uh Mos, especially like uh people, like you know, high in their studies, they talk about the reincarnation, or the transfer, the transformation of, uh, the same spirits, so to speak. So if you were here, oh, you didn't know that, oh, ok, ok. So I'm thinking that it's pretty much the same concept with when we talk about in respect to Master Farah Muhammad and Elijah Muhammad, and reincarnating again through another person. Is that, is that the concept?

Speaker 2:

Absolutely not. Let's let's look at what the most honorable Elijah Muhammad teaches us. The spirit is not independent of the flesh. It is the flesh that produces the spirit. No two fleshes are exactly the same, are exactly the same, you know. That's why you got fingerprints, DNA, various things like that. No two snowflakes are the same. You know. There's diversity in everything in creation. The point that I'm making to you is this no one human being whose flesh produces spirit can have that same spirit that his flesh produces, produced by another flesh of another human being. Therefore, reincarnation is absolutely impossible. You can't be reincarnated in someone else because another human being has a specifically unique flesh that is going to produce a specifically unique spirit right now, paul, I'm going to cut you.

Speaker 1:

but when you say in my mind is almost the same concept, when you speak on, when you say Moses is pretty much Elijah, no, I'm not saying that the Moses of 4000 years ago is Elijah Muhammad.

Speaker 2:

Today is written as the Moses of 4,000 years ago is really talking about Elijah Muhammad. Not that Moses has been reincarnated into the messenger, not that, nothing like that. I'm saying that when Elijah Muhammad's history is written in the Bible, it's not written as Elijah Muhammad from Sandersville, georgia, it's written as Moses from Egypt. I'm saying, when the Bible is talking about Master Farad Muhammad, it doesn't talk about Master Farad Muhammad as Farad Muhammad. Farad Muhammad as Farad Muhammad. Mecca, arabia, 1930. He's talked about, but he's talked about as Jehovah in Egypt. Okay, gotcha, so a future person is described by using a past person to describe them. But the two persons, past and future, are two absolutely different people. But you can use one person. You understand what I'm saying. Like the movie Malcolm X, everybody comes on and says, yeah, I am Malcolm X, you know, you think so, and so is going to be the next Malcolm X. It doesn't mean that they're going to be a reincarnation of Malcolm X. What it means is they're going to be a person of the same spirit of revolution as Malcolm.

Speaker 1:

Right, well, actually that's what the moorish science teaches, okay, so just just to just to clarify, uh, and I think they, uh, the moors, also talk about a reincarnation, depending on who you're talking talking to as well. Uh, so yeah, that's.

Speaker 2:

That's the indians teaching, bleeding in. They're getting too close to the ind.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. So you know, I think, the next time we build I think you need about an hour and a half, I don't know if you have time for that, just let me know. Okay, okay. Well, that wraps it up today Tonight's discussion. I really appreciate you coming on and clarifying some things. I want to expound on some other subjects next time you come up. I have a lot of questions. I'm reading, I'm building and you know I want to get into supreme wisdom a little bit next time. All right.

Speaker 1:

Thank you for coming out this evening. I really appreciate you, minister Eric Muhammad. Right, thank you for coming out this evening. I really appreciate you, minister Eric Muhammad, thanks for everyone in the chat. Thanks for any viewers on now and later. Hit the like, share, comment, subscribe and we are out of here you.