The Crip Jesus: From Streets to Enlightenment

Crip Jesus King L takes us on a profound journey from the streets of Leimert Park to spiritual awakening through the Five Percent Nation during his 15-year prison sentence. This conversation illuminates the complex relationship between street life and higher consciousness in ways rarely discussed in mainstream media.

Born and raised in what he calls "the Black Mecca of the West Coast," King L provides an unfiltered look at how Leimert Park shaped his identity—a culturally rich neighborhood where African markets, intellectual discourse, and gang territories coexist. With remarkable candor, he dismantles common misconceptions about gang culture, revealing how much of what we think we know comes from sensationalized portrayals rather than reality.

The heart of this episode explores King L's spiritual transformation behind bars, where he encountered the Five Percent Nation at age 17. Rather than rejecting his past, he integrated these teachings into a more holistic understanding of self, embodied in his moniker "Crip Jesus." His perspective on various Black spiritual and nationalist movements is refreshingly pragmatic, recognizing their shared purpose in elevating Black consciousness: "It's one house with many different rooms. We all seek knowledge and light, so why the division?"

This conversation challenges us to reconsider our assumptions about rehabilitation, authenticity, and the many paths to enlightenment. Through King L's story, we witness how divine knowledge can emerge from the most unlikely places when we remain open to higher truths.

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Speaker 1: 0:17

what's going on? Everybody out. There is ron brown lmt, the people's fitness professional, alongside my co-host fever, and this is and this is a New Yorkers perspective we have the brother Crip Jesus King L in the building.

Speaker 3: 0:32

West Coast is in the building. West Coast is in the building.

Speaker 1: 0:37

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Speaker 1: 1:03

Share with a friend. Yo Awareness daily is in the house already.

Speaker 3: 1:06

What's up awareness?

Speaker 1: 1:06

that your awareness daily where you been bro. Yeah man, he he been, he been. Well, we kind of been off and on like lately, but uh, anyway, let's get to it. Uh, crib jesus in the building.

Speaker 4: 1:19

Peace, peace, let's, let's, uh, let's go straight into it, brother before we do, though, man, I want to give you know, honors to y'all. Uh, I've been in the cut watching y'all for a minute, because you know I'm a fiber center y'all one of the few outlets that really let the guys speak out, and I always felt like you know when I'm doing enough, you know when I put enough work in, I'll know when nyp how. That you know, I mean, because y'all at me, y'all got your own lane. If they feel like you're making some noise, they're going to tap in. I'm just really proud of even myself to be here, man. It's like a milestone for me, believe it or not.

Speaker 3: 1:57

I appreciate it, man, that's peace.

Speaker 1: 2:00

For real. Yo Crip Jesus, man. I just want to let you know, man, we weren't expecting people to really really be up on a show like that, because we would. We just came in this joint with a pure heart and said, yo, we want to do something for the people we did. We did this and now we're going. July will be year two of doing this year, year two in july.

Speaker 3: 2:23

Yeah, we did it with pure intentions, man you know, yep, no, funny business. We, you know, we give everyone a chance to come up and speak, you know indeed, indeed.

Speaker 1: 2:32

So now let's uh talk about it. Crib jesus, where are you from?

Speaker 4: 2:36

yeah, I'm from los angeles, born and raised. You know I'm saying uh, even when I did the 15 years, I did it out here. You know, I know a lot of people. I hear different stories about myself. People say I'm from Detroit, I'm from the south, I'm from the east coast and all in my. I made all those places my homes when I was out doing my thing. But I'm born and raised in Los Angeles. Uh, from birth, all the way to. Uh, I never even left really LA like that until I went to prison. That's all throughout the state. You know I'm saying uh, came back to la. You know I mean uh, really, peace to the guys. You know joined the nations, what really got me hopping on and off the planes and all that. So, up until like 30 31, I've been in la all my life and then be in prison in california okay, so take us through your journey a little bit.

Speaker 1: 3:26

So what part of Los Angeles are you from?

Speaker 4: 3:30

I'm from a Lamar park, uh like where they filmed baby boy, uh parts of like boys in the hood. Really it's like the Crenshaw district. But the Crenshaw district is really like in the area. The technical Crenshaw district, like the boxed in on the map, is in the 50s and the 60s between Crenshaw and La Brea. We're in the 40s between Crenshaw and La Brea but going up the whole west side A couple dudes been kind of buzzing, going viral. I don't know if y'all into that type of stuff like no Jumper and all that. A lot of them dudes are from my area, oh, 4x yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4: 4:08

A lot of those dudes are from out the 40s. So it's a real big hood right next to Nipsey's area and we go from like by the freeway all the way to the far west side. So basically we kind of like engulf, like the middle of la that culture. You know, like you hear about compton and watch their one way, you hear about the englewood, we're kind of like in the middle of all that, got, you, got, you, got you but to say this, though, I'm from lemur park, like my hood is giant.

Speaker 4: 4:45

So the part of my hood that I'm from is Leimert Park specifically, which is a very important part of LA culturally. I know it's gang and all that, but my hood just happened to be there. When it comes to Leimert Park, like okay, yeah, we're there, but even we respect Leimert Park, like it's like a no beefing zone, right, I mean it's still crack, but you know what I mean. Like we let the people come in. It's a african trade markets, african drums, everybody out there selling. Uh, people like rizah islam is the dr umar. They just walk through on a random. It's beautiful bro. We used to have a freestyle fellowship out there. That's where the diggable plans came up out of exhibit Exhibit, all that. So it's some real history. The part of where I'm from.

Speaker 3: 5:29

Very.

Speaker 4: 5:30

African-centric.

Speaker 3: 5:31

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1: 5:33

So break down your head a little bit more. What's the vibe like out there? We always hear about the gangs and all that in all of these different states, and I didn't really want to make that the the the highlight of today's podcast, cause I know it's more to our people than than just that. You know what I'm saying. So in that area in particular, is it like like a Harlem Cause? You know how Harlem is. Harlem is like black Mecca, so to speak.

Speaker 4: 6:01

You know what I'm saying no, that's exactly what it is. It's, this is this man. I'm so glad you said like that because I never I did the interview shout out to cinemills. I did an interview with cinemills where I was like, uh, I'm gonna give you the three meccas, as I see it. I said for the midwest, the mecca, detroit. Right. For the east mecca, like, like we already know, right, the, which is not just because because the guys in the nation, but Harlem is the black Mecca, whether it be for X, whether it be for Garvey, whether it be you know what I mean, we can go on and on, whether it be on some street shit, the Purple City, bumpy Johnson, all right. But then for the West, right, which people know, because there's not even so much about it being spoke on it, which people know, because it's not even so much about it being spoke on.

Speaker 4: 6:46

It's like if I could take a camera and show you or when you go through my stuff, you'll probably know this now like, oh yeah, he's always in this place called lemur. You see all the art on the wall, you see the homies there. At the same time you see parts of four extras video at lemur. So it's like it is the black mecca in la. I can show you so many movies where you see like a predominantly black park and it don't look all run down like most of the gang parks you see in LA. They probably have Leimert, feel me, moesha, leimert Park, a member of Girlfriends. Remember they had all the black UPN and all that Leimert Park Love and Basketball, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4: 7:23

Yeah, black influence in baldwin hills. You come down from there you get more like a part of nipsey hood, the 60s. But that part that's called overhills because you know we go by the numbers. So the part that's called overhills is like going up towards that. So on my side in the 40s the part that's called the avenues is where all that black influenceluency begins at. That's why it's like the butt end between like, where the gangs and the you know, like the jazz musician dude house, this is where that kind of like blends in. Right, there, right.

Speaker 4: 7:56

And so, yeah, bro, uh, brothers and sisters own all the stores there. You can come down there and get real fruit, real vegetables. You can learn a lot. You can get us where I got all this copper and all this from. You know I'm saying I got my line, the black illuminati. You know I can go right down there and sell. You know I'm saying it even helps economically. You don't got to really to be real with you. I built this whole crypt jesus thing off of lemur. Beyond the fact that I'm from lemur, this part, my personality, that was the first uh nucleus of people that would even take that seriously. You know what I'm saying okay, that's peace.

Speaker 1: 8:30

So, mike, you got any questions? No, it's beautiful, I'm just listening, all right. So so now, how did you get into being at lemo? I don't know if I'm pronouncing it correctly, but lemur lemur, lemur, lemur yeah, you ever heard a rapper named dom kennedy?

Speaker 4: 8:48

yeah, yeah, he called himself the lemur park legend.

Speaker 1: 8:51

So he oh, okay, okay, all right dope big blue planets.

Speaker 4: 8:55

They from out the way of black ips. They started the murk wow, wow.

Speaker 1: 9:00

So being Leimert is what it is as far as, like, the black Mecca and the West coast. Um, how, how do you balance the other side of the culture though? Like how, how has that dealt with?

Speaker 4: 9:15

Well, what makes it crazy is that and I'm so glad this conversation going in this order, cause I rarely get to explain it in this way so that part of my personality is natural, because I grew up in leimert park and also the crypt part I'm from, I'm from right there. You know I'm saying I think it's not like I'm from a hood, that's somewhere else, that I live right there. Like you know, I'm saying I'm from the crypts, right there. You know I'm trying to say like I'm from 40s, right there. So it's like that's part of my personality. You get what I'm saying. Like the right, there's people that come to the murk that don't necessarily live right there. If you're saying it's a central, it's a center. So if, if it makes sense, like the, the weed dude in the murk, is a dude that helped raise me, you got what I'm saying that the, the hustler in the murk, is a dude that helped raise me, yeah, there, there's a store owner there too. You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 4: 10:06

Like I lived in Leimert but I wasn't born and raised in Leimert, if you get what I'm trying to say. We moved to Leimert when I was about six or seven, somewhere up in there. You know what I mean. So my mom, how do I explain it? Like, basically, what I'm trying to say is you have different elements there, right? So I didn't come from like an affluent family that own a home in Leimert and die.

Speaker 4: 10:33

You know, I said I come from the struggle and all that. We my mom got married, we moved to Leimert, so we brought that mentality to Leimert. That makes sense, like I. That's why I tell people like I it's hard for dudes to convince me with their whole environment thing and all that, because I'm like it's true to a degree, but who you are within your environment is going to always be a determining factor. That's a fact. It's like we brought us and I know that from experiencing it backwards, we brought a poor hood mentality to the hood does that even make sense, like you get what I'm saying, like it's crazy, it's like that's my hood.

Speaker 4: 11:10

But where we came from was rougher than that. We brought a mentality to lemur park that basically attracted us to the hustlers in the in the wrongdoers and the misfits in the birth okay, so where were you before lemur?

Speaker 4: 11:27

uh, shit, we was all over, you know. I mean, uh, my grandma, in the 30s we used to move around. Uh, my grandpa and them in the hundreds, you feel I'm saying, uh, we stayed like downtown sometime, like in hollywood, like we moved all around before she got married and we settled there and I was basically raised there. You feel I'm saying, but before that we kind of had like nothing. You know, I mean, so we brought that mentality there to where the people in the area that were similar is who we gravitate towards. You know, I mean because it, because, even though my hood is, my hood is real big, so there are parts of the hood that's exactly like how faux extra is described. So I'm just talking about my specific blocks, you know. I mean. I mean, and where I stay at it's it's it's people there, that's hood, but it's a mixture. It's people there that own the homes, it's people there that own hood, but it's a mixture. It's people there that own the homes, it's people there that own that jazz studio right there. You feel what I'm saying and you kind of pick and choose where you're going to fall in line.

Speaker 4: 12:34

So what I'm saying is we, a lot of us that ended up gangbanging in that area. A lot of us had ties to you know rougher parts of the city and the hood and all that and kind of brought the mentality over there, because Leimert Park for the most part is, like you said, afrocentric, more like the Nipsey Hussle type of vibe. I'm going to say something Leimert Park for me is extremely important. Because Leimert Park for me is extremely important because I joined the 5% Nation of Guys on Earth while I was in prison and being I joined the 5% Nation of Guys on Earth while I was in prison, being that I grew up at Leimert, it made me feel like I was doing nothing out the ordinary or uncomfortable, getting out and going back to Leimert and clicking up with the guys. Leimert is the center for the guys in LA.

Speaker 3: 13:23

I have a question for that. You mentioned that your people brought that element out there. Your background were your people involved in the streets as well. You're not going to get into full detail but running numbers.

Speaker 4: 13:41

I just want to give you an honest answer On my dad's side, right, my dad? I'm going to give you an honest answer. If I brought my dad on this show, he would say he was involved in streets. I would tell him to get the fuck out of here, because I'm Crip Jesus, I done. Hopped off planes swinging carbon 15s and shit I don't know. It's like the shit he going to talk about. Ain't swinging carbon 15s and shit. I don't know. It's like the shit he gonna talk about, I don't know.

Speaker 4: 14:04

So it's like I feel like everybody have their different degree or level to how they understand it within their framework of their time. So I would say no, because I don't know my father to have no ties I'm aware of, but he tells his little stories or whatever. You know what I'm saying. I've gone as far as to be initiating something done, 15 years in prison and stuff like that. So I wouldn't consider my father being a street person. But my dad's side of the family is big bro and you best believe I got gangsta uncles and all of that, so I can't take that away from him. You know what I'm saying. So that same mentality I'm talking about, I guess you know to a degree. Uh, I would say for me personally, though, god just being 100 with the crowd and not holding nothing back so they can understand.

Speaker 4: 14:54

You know, we all come from these different places. Uh, my own, you know, I'm like the average. You know, brother, uh, I was raised mostly by my mother. So when I say we brought the element over here, I'm talking about my mom and us. My dad didn't come over here with us. My dad, he never lived a murder day in his life, but I answered it that way and the reason. So I'm still talking about my mentality.

Speaker 4: 15:17

So my mom's side, my mom, like from the streets how do I explain it, bro? Like, when we say streets, a lot of us mean like gangs or crime. You know, I don't know my mom to be like coming from some crime, family or crime. You know, I mean like that, but she for sure was like you know. You know, my mom's parents died when she was young. She was giving up.

Speaker 4: 15:43

At birth, you felt she didn't really have nobody, so she was sure it was outside. She was sure it was, you know, getting their hands into whatever you know I mean. And my mom, when she got married and we came over there. She was getting hot. So it was like and that being like right up the street from the hood hood that you get what I'm trying to say now like we turned the block out. You know what I'm saying. Like everybody's coming over here to hang out. You know what I'm saying like. So when you bring that element, it don't matter where you at. That's why a lot of these rappers and celebrities that we look up to, a lot of them is just trap houses in the middle of a suburb got you and that's real so now, um, when you got put on let's, let's about that when you got put onto a hood, what age were you at that time?

Speaker 4: 16:29

So when I first. So first I joined the clique, and that's when I was 15. Then I got put on the hood when I was 16, going to 17. And then, right when I got put on, I caught my case 17. And then, right when I got put on, I caught my case like a few weeks after I was just turned 17 and I was in prison all the way till 30.

Speaker 1: 16:52

Damn okay, wow, alright, there's a whole bunch of history in that. I don't know if you want to unpack that on this show, it's up to you. But you know, maybe we can do that another time. But I would like to know about that experience, like going into prison at 17 excuse me, at 17 years old. I mean, what was that? Like? I mean, that was your first bid, right?

Speaker 4: 17:23

yeah. So I caught the case in 17. I fought it. I was trying to get tried as a juvenile. They wanted to try me as an adult and they ended up winning and trying me as an adult and that took about a year. They did that on purpose because they see I was going to turn 18. So by the time they tried me as an adult, I was 18 anyway. It just that the charge happened when I was 17. You know it's a play. So after that they tried me as an adult. I was 18 anyway. It's just that the charge happened when I was 17. You know it's a play. So after that they sentenced me and sent me up the way at 18. So, yeah, I was in the prison. I was in the prison at 18 with a 15-year sentence, but I basically I gave up.

Speaker 4: 18:00

It was like that's why you know the Crypt Jesus thing is incredible because, like I break down in the book, you know I got my book, the blue Bible. I hear that basically all the information I got. You know it's not that I'm trying to endorse gangs or prisons and no shit like that. I'm showing that Allah has seen and heard in all worlds. So when they glamorize this crap to you. I can tell you from firsthand experience. Even within that world, the only ones that made it is those that was righteous, those that was on a square and those that understood knowledge itself. You feel what I'm saying? So that's where I got knowledge itself from the prisoners, from the, the fellow jailsmen, from the uh, the gang bangers who've seen oh you, oh you percent. Now, all right, I'm. You know you were stoned, we beef crips and stoned buzz but wait, we got to back up.

Speaker 1: 18:45

We got to back up because this is a lot right here. So hold on you, you get. So when you got put on in the hood, right, I don't know how it goes, because my whole life, well, practically my whole life I've been into into these, right so 16 years old I became, I've joined the 5% Nation, right so, pcu. Now, when you got put onto the hood, what was it like? Did you have to scrap? You had to fight a couple people. How did that go down?

Speaker 4: 19:19

That's a good one. You gotta fight.

Speaker 1: 19:22

You gotta fight a group of people now, now I know now not in new york there's a lot of bloods and things like that, so we're familiar with the blood culture where they have to fight like 31 seconds 31 seconds the crips too.

Speaker 3: 19:37

60 seconds out here it's not.

Speaker 4: 19:38

No, it's not a set time, that's just each of the guys different time. None of this stuff is professional how they want to paint it on these documentaries or how even people explain it. It's all just a bunch of people making up stuff. You got some people that call themselves Bloods, that go for this many seconds, go for that many seconds. Then you got some dude come over here, some smoker dude that dropped out of school. Now you want to feel like you got power, power. So you got him, a group of teenagers, and say you know, now it's 18 seconds or whatever you know. I mean, like you'd be surprised, bro. Like when you go behind the scenes it's like oh yeah, it's, it's, it's 31 seconds, but we got to it with them so we changed it to 29 seconds and it's just a bunch of like in la. It's none of that. Don't do any of that, because right here it's real.

Speaker 4: 20:20

So your gang is like your family, basically like it's where you grew up and stuff. Like you know, I'm saying it's not, it's not that's. That would be like silly to us. Like, like you got certain mexican like gang rules where they might be like you're getting the dp for this many seconds. The mexicans, more, do that like, uh you, we have stuff like that, but it's not like, it's like a formality. Like you just, finna, get your ass whooped, alright. Like you might be known in the area, dudes might be scared of you. You might not have to do that much, you might be not known at all and we finna whoop your ass. And then you, finna, come back tomorrow and be like I'm whoopty-whoop real in LA. We might whoop your ass. You're not even from the hood, see, that's all that professional stuff.

Speaker 4: 21:06

Gangbang is not real like that. It's just a bunch of niggas. I've seen dudes get whooped. Okay, look at this I might hurt people's feelings, but I'm going to go this far. Was Nipsey from the 60s? Yeah, right, but who killed him? Okay, my point exactly. It's not even real, bro. Who hated him the most? Who had the most problems with him?

Speaker 2: 22:04

Right.

Speaker 3: 22:07

Interesting.

Speaker 4: 22:09

I thought it goes this way. Come on, bro, it's not real predictable, it's unpredictable, it's unpredictable no, actually it's predictable.

Speaker 4: 22:19

You go your hood, which a bunch of people that's into lower self and into the bottom and into the trash, and you show them higher self and goodness and you and you don't stand on that all the way. You kind of flip-flop with it and tinker with it or you start giving your zakat to them what they doing, their evil deeds and all that stuff they doing with it. Nah, bro, I hate to stand firm like that, but I got to because that's why I'm still here bro you know what I just told you in california prison, bro.

Speaker 4: 22:46

I told you I defend to you in california prison. Bro, I don't got a scratch on me. It ain't because I'm the hardest toughest, it ain't because I'm the biggest killer, it's because, bro Allah has seen and heard in all worlds. I didn't go in there and say I dropped my flag, I'm Muslim. Now, that's what they want. That's what they want my story to be. That's why the homies hate me. They want me to come out here and say, said, I don't care, I still knew all of y'all. I'm really from the hood.

Speaker 4: 23:12

So what I'm going to say oh, if somebody do something to you, I'm not going to participate. Yeah, you still don't. That shit you're talking is retarded. I'll tell you to your face. See, here's the thing Everybody's in. See, the same thing that happened with y'all with colors in the yeah, it happened out here too, while we was getting gentrified. It was dudes driving in from other cities joining our hoods. All that, bro, it's so fake. Half these hoods are fake. La dudes don't like when I get to talk in the real. Half these videos are super fake. They call each other and say meet me on this block. They all stand there and act like they all pollute like they all. Stand there and act like they all. Pollute like they all like super deep in the hood. Then when they drive off, it be like two niggas.

Speaker 2: 23:55

Nobody even live there can you quiet down out there?

Speaker 1: 24:01

please. So check it out so now. So there's no kind of like format, so to speak, with getting put on. You just get your ass, no no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 4: 24:14

It depends on each group. That's what I was saying. Of course, each group is going to set their format. Like we, the 40s, you're going to get put on. You got to get put on by at least four people, but I can tell you dudes from my hood that got put on by one or two people because his cousin was popular. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4: 24:30

The four bad things you don't know no better. Behind closed doors, the family members who really run the hood. We do what we want to do. You know what I'm saying? Right, in other states it probably ain't got to that level yet, but it has though, because I've kicked it in other states, other states it's actually way looser. I'm going to keep it real.

Speaker 4: 25:00

When you go out to new york and I'll say it on the show, a lot of them dudes ain't never got put on, they lying I'll walk right up the dudes in new york and new jersey and slapped them and said you ain't get put on and see them sit right there, like not saying that. No, let me calm down, not to say like that's a new york, new jersey thing. I'm just saying I've experienced that in them spaces, right, because my dudes out in New York and New Jersey rock out. I'm not saying like that. I'm saying like I've seen that, even out here too, though. But I'm saying I've seen that like, this stuff is fake, bro, and the more popular it gets on TV and the internet, the more people are walking around emulating it, right, Even the real ones.

Speaker 4: 25:31

It's crazy. That may sound, think, but people don't say if your little nephew, who you seen play the computer and nerds every day he met some random dudes said, yeah, we're bloods. And now he let them punch on him and they come back and say hey, uncle, I'm a blood. You like me. If you don't like it. Really, if you wasn't born to that or grew up with that, it's all just tv. And even if you grew up with it, it's just some brain manipulation. That ain't really what you is, so it's like hold on, hold on.

Speaker 1: 25:58

I like that now. Uh, so we went from that part right getting put on. You went to prison. Now who did you meet? Meet as far as the 5% Nation.

Speaker 4: 26:14

Yeah, so my journey in prison was real, like I hate to use this terminology but spooky in how it came about. So you know, god, all them years of being a natural born God, I never knew what was even being spoken about. I'm not trying to drag the answer out, but I'm just trying to give it to you all the way, right. So, like I told you, my brother was born in 77. He spinned on the cardboard, he did the graffiti, he, he had the purple tape. Oh, that's when we was talking off camera, remember. I told you right, like, like, when you're talking about different west coast, you know, old music was I rocked? I was like was you know? Yeah, because it's hip-hop. But also there was West Coast underground lyrical hip-hop back then, dj Muggs, soul Assassins, oh right, yeah, yeah, raskass.

Speaker 3: 27:06

Raskass, a legend right there.

Speaker 4: 27:07

My brother had me listening to all that right, so uh what was the question?

Speaker 1: 27:16

so how did you get, how did you get to the five percent nation in prison?

Speaker 4: 27:18

okay, part self. Who did you? Who did you meet? Who did you meet? So, part self, I had been exposed to the lingo. You know I'm saying like, like. When it finally came to me it clicked like oh yeah.

Speaker 4: 27:29

So even when I was in my teens, I remember one time my mom's brought a guy to the house. I ain't know, I had knowledge of self. She brought me to the house and he had the jacket and he wanted me to wear the jacket because I used to be rapping. And she was like yeah, you can wear the jacket. I was. I was like I was like man, what's this symbol on the back? Like, what's that? Like, oh, this ain't fubu, this ain't. This ain't Anichi, this ain't. He was explaining to me what it meant. She stopped him. Where is Bond? She stopped him like he ain't ready for that, like what. So when I saw the symbol later it all came to me like what? And I had a book called God's Earth's 85ers.

Speaker 4: 28:08

I was in prison and where was I at when I got that? Uh, cmc fibers? I was in prison. Where was I at when I got that CMC? From there I went to Salinas Valley. That's Salinas Valley. One of the homies from 30s from Harlem Crip saw the book and said, oh you messing with that. I'm like, yeah, I know what's up. He's like you know Math Magazine. I'm like I'm just like, yeah, yeah, they had a class at Salinas Valley a guy named Born Out Loud not the Born Out Loud everybody mostly know let me interject real quick because I got to get this off.

Speaker 1: 28:44

So would you say a lot of the 5%ers or some were affiliated before getting into the teachings. Were affiliated with a gang before getting into the teachings of the 5%. So would you see more Crips and Bloods who would fly the universal flag.

Speaker 4: 29:08

Depending on the era. So the further back, the more, the more, the more does it make sense, like the like, when I meet all the first born and all of them they damn, they're always in games. Then you meet like the dudes from like the 80s and the 90s, like yeah, majority. Then, like now that we in the 2000s, it's kind of like a hit miss thing, like you may be who was gang, they all come from like the streets as far as, like you know the poverty or just knowing what's up or whatever, you got something that you know. But uh, that was more of a mixed bag. Some people are like hip-hop fans, some people are just knowledge seekers. They may even came from an affluent family and know all type of stuff and heard about the guys because we've really been putting in the work. So you, you know you get different crowds now but for sure, like all my OGs, like shout out, you know what I mean, a lot of Dominique. Shout out, you know Black Knowledge. You know. Shout out, free Bar, you know what I mean. You know what I mean. Like all of them. Like, yeah, you know what I mean, minister. Freedom all of them. You know.

Speaker 4: 30:09

Knowledge Born all of them. You know knowledge born all of them. They come from. You know certain elements, but I'm going to keep it real though, bro, like me being a Crypt Genius. Once again, it's like it's hard for me to answer the type of questions because I'm biased. It's like you know I see the streets. It's like you got to be all the way in. You know I look at it. Like everybody, you've seen the streets as a myth.

Speaker 3: 30:27

Say that again. Do you see the streets as a myth to a certain degree.

Speaker 4: 30:37

The streets are real. I'm talking about the. What's that thing? We was talking about the whole little gang.

Speaker 1: 30:43

Gang affiliation All right.

Speaker 4: 30:46

No, the gang rules and gang formalities, Like no, these are just dudes making up stuff.

Speaker 3: 30:52

And one more question you mentioned about. You know, back then I know a lot of people were influenced by the nation's teaching. You know you had the Rakims you had Rakim at the time and Big Daddy Kane they used to see the symbol in his videos and stuff like that. So you think that that's where the majority of them got the influence from, or that they were exposed to some of the information due to the Nation of Islam being out there, which branched off into other information for them?

Speaker 4: 31:16

No, hell, no, no. What happened was Father Allah peace and blessings upon him left the Nation of Islam in what was that? 1964? He started the nation in 65. And he started the nation in 65.

Speaker 4: 31:34

Basically, he went out and taught. He used math mags. I used the same math mags that the father used. He taught born students and told all of them you got to teach born students. What that happens is for those that's listening that don't know what born is, that's nine. What happens is when you teach nine people, that's 10 people. Now you ain't teaching nine people and being quiet all day, so automatically the 10 of y'all building is attracting all type of people. Then if they really stay on A-square and all go out and teach boring people, that's nine more 10-people ciphers. That multiplies fast. So what happened is when he laid that script down and they followed that, while he was in Medellin teaching everybody in the prisons, that built the foundation of what would be the five percent nation, which is still the true foundation. You see a lot of people on TV and walking around claiming they guides, but when you really like, wait, Paul, I want to just address the chat real quick.

Speaker 1: 32:30

So I don't know if you said the nation was born in 65. Mm hmm, I'm not sure 64.

Speaker 3: 32:39

64.

Speaker 4: 32:40

October, yeah, october 64.

Speaker 1: 32:43

Yeah, but I think this guy said something about 65.

Speaker 4: 32:47

I did say 65. I said I said 64. I said he was born and started 65. I threw that in there as well. But my point was that I said I said 64 and I said he was born and started 65. I threw that in there as well. My point was that I said he left the nation of Islam in 64 and the nation was born in 65. Then I said October, October, 64 is when the nation was born. Pardon me if I'm what I'm saying. Is he left the NOI because the brother mentioned? He said do I believe it's because let's keep it in context, you know, do I believe it's because the NOI is present or because of Rakim's and hip-hop's presence?

Speaker 3: 33:18

Exactly that's what I said the fact.

Speaker 4: 33:21

Let me, if y'all don't mind, not to even plug, but just to keep it. Now we'll keep it on.

Speaker 1: 33:25

Plug it, plug it, plug it.

Speaker 4: 33:26

The Blue Bible, right page 74 of the blue bible. I did not discover these mysteries via youtube or google. They were revealed to me while studying the 120, 120 lessons. The lessons were passed down to us by allah, the father, who was initiated at the nation of islam's temple number seven in harlem, new york, under the authority of malcolm x. Student of elijah muham Muhammad. Leader of the nation of Islam. Elijah's son, warif Dean Muhammad, took over the nation in 1975. He terminated the lessons and the name nation of Islam. It was Allah's five percent nation that carried on the tradition of the lessons in New York and introduced them to hip-hop artists like Rakim and Wu-Tang during the 1980s. So the gods taught them you know what I'm saying Like they really kind of I mean I love them, but they kind of mixed it up later on and made it to where now we, like you, got niggas talking about they drip God and you know, coke God and all that. But the gods, you know, the peer is where he was, the moon reflecting the light of the sun.

Speaker 1: 34:40

You feel what I'm saying Now. Before you go into that, now I want to ask this question, because this question right here is probably the most important question when it pertains to the 5% Nation who were the first non-born in your area and who was your educator and what is your educator's root, or what's your root?

Speaker 4: 35:03

So my educator in prison? I would say he was born, but when I got out and got an official tree, my educator is a la Dominic right, whose educator is, if I'm not mistaken, just Life, who's going back to Medina right, but he's under just life and them are under the first born out here who? I don't know all their names, but I know it's born, just life. You gotta I believe my king, you gotta damn I gotta line that up. But yeah, it's a, it's a. It's a. It's a because our, our first born is a little different. You get what I'm saying. Like LA was so dry, like our first born started off with like understanding guys. Then you know, I mean, more came later. It kind of built throughout the years makes sense, that makes sense.

Speaker 1: 35:55

so your root comes from Medina. So that means that you have culture without freedom, you have power without refinement.

Speaker 4: 36:07

Well, the beauty with me is I'm like a little weirder of the story because I have roots in Medina. But, like I told you, I did 15 years in prison. I didn't even know the nation was going in. So by the time I got out, the guys that's from Medina that taught Just Life and them and came out here and laid down the foundation. It was with my enlightenment. I wasn't around for that. My Medina stories is still real, though.

Speaker 4: 36:29

I went out to Medina myself you know what I'm saying, guy Black knowledge. I was born before he returned and all that, went to Mecca myself before he returned and all that, and went to Mecca myself. So I got my you know, and that's my educator, you know G-Body. He made sure I did that. He was like bro, it's cool to be rooted, but you got to go experience it yourself if you really want to understand these lessons. You know what I mean. So he is you kind of get what I'm saying. So it's like I have that connection. But when I speak on Medina and I talk about certain guys, it's really like the ones I walked with, because you know what I mean. Like I done been on. You know what I mean, I done, been on Bed-Stuy, and all that with Black Knowledge and them, you know.

Speaker 1: 37:08

Now, great answer. Now this right here. I thought this was important because early on, this is where I was trying to get at, because one thing I do know is if you're born in a culture since a child and then you pick up another culture, it's like you can't really get rid of who you are. So this brother right here says um psa, either you true and living or not, you can't be blood slash, crip and God. How do you see that?

Speaker 4: 37:43

yeah, you're right, I am true and living. See what I see is somebody caught up in titles. You feel what I'm saying. Like the guys know me, it'd be different if I was just somebody getting up on here that you just wanted to interview. You ain't put me up here for no reason, so it's like everybody know what I'm on. Crip Jesus is being presented to the world with an EIN number under it. All that for over five years and there ain't one person that's been a student of mine that turned a gangbanger. You feel what I'm saying. I got students that wrote books. I got students that made music, mixing this gangster lingo with this God body lingo and breaking the new paradigm.

Speaker 4: 38:20

You feel I'm saying really I see it as jealousy, you know I mean with a lot of the guys. I mean a lot of guys. You know I mean be mad. You know I'm gonna keep it real. I never spoke on this live, right, it was guys calling up there, uh to the school making threats when I went up there to interview with f mega, like because they were trying to gangbang, because you know, a lot of the guys in new york was bloods and they still secretly be keeping their affiliations. But what's wrong with that? So what y'all don't know? Out here in la, we ain't even tripping off that, you living off of tv. But you claiming you got, though, you feel I'm saying like that's crazy, you feel me?

Speaker 4: 38:53

So the whole point of why allah chose me, you feel I'm saying my arm, legs and heads chose me to go and do this mission, is I'm I'm the only person I know. Am I even my enlightener tell you? You know? I mean, who else didn't walk through all them chambers? I didn't. I didn't, I didn't learn about the moors because I said, oh, I like prophet noah drew ali, I want to hear about this stuff. I was in prison spitting the 120. I already had my born, born fruit in, walking in laps with me and all the blood is like man.

Speaker 4: 39:24

So they start coming down with their paperwork revealing us what they on, they telling us their own stuff because they respect us as real, true and living guys. They hearing Shabazz, they hearing Asiatic, they like yeah, but you wouldn't know that unless you. You get what I'm saying. It's like you couldn't go up to a, a Sunni Muslim, and talk about certain stuff unless he see you a certain way. Everybody had their own initiation, even if you were blood. If, if I'm a crip and I know you were blood, I'll have a certain gang conversation with you, I wouldn't have with it. You get what I'm saying, so it's with it. You get what I'm saying. If I meet one of the brothers who say they comedic, or you 5%, yeah, we gods, we have a long conversation. As, being gods, we talk about different health things and how we see women and how they dress. Yes, brother, see, the thing is how, in 2025, these Negroes, black and colored, want to keep these divisions up. Everybody want to say this is my follower. I follow Father Allah.

Speaker 3: 40:21

That's it, or.

Speaker 4: 40:22

I follow Elijah Muhammad. Oh, I follow Prophet, bro. That was 100 years ago. All them groups were saying the same thing. We on Google now, bro, all them groups were saying the same thing. Stop that sound.

Speaker 3: 40:35

Yo brother, people are so stuck on titles, they so divided. I said it's one house with many different rooms. We all seek knowledge and light, so why the division?

Speaker 4: 40:42

You know what's wrong about that brother and I don't know who he is. I don't want to be disrespectful, but I've traveled through all four corners of the nation, as my enlightenment made me right. I've met crip gods yes, gods who hang in crip neighborhoods and make sure stuff goes straight and make sure you know being teached and all that. I've met blood gods yes, guys that come from the blood nation, who are still respected by the bloods, who still go to funerals and wear their little red rags and got sons from the gang and all that and give them money and say stop doing this and stop doing that. You want to think that everybody from the gang is like the tv character?

Speaker 1: 41:14

that's hold on. I think I rosh Allah, god body. You use that. Now I don't have a problem with the God body terminology but for what I learned, for what I know, I could be wrong. God body is a terminology that came from prison. The 5% nation at a certain point wasn't really using that like that and that's not really used loosely. Well, that is used loosely. That's not like a part of the lingo, so to speak, among the five percent of the true, the true living, uh, gods and earths. People mention it, people mention.

Speaker 4: 41:51

It's the best episode. Hey, hold on. Hey, hey, where's this is? This was meant to happen right now. What you just said, g, you said god body is not part of our terminology. I got the original God body. I don't know if he want to be on the phone. I got the original God body on the phone right here Now. He's not the original God body, he's the original G body, but it's an error thing. It's an error thing. No, we know Rasul Allah. Tell him God personally know Rasul Allah Ain't no beef Huh.

Speaker 1: 42:18

Oh, you know him, you know that brother.

Speaker 4: 42:19

No, the guy, I know him, allah Dominic.

Speaker 2: 42:21

Oh, okay, okay, I know the guy, that's the old guy.

Speaker 4: 42:25

My Rob Bell Supreme 7. I love. Yeah, this is my enlightener Allah.

Speaker 1: 42:29

Dominic Peace, god, peace, god, peace, god. I bet the phone kind of low.

Speaker 4: 42:37

I'm going to call you on this other phone, guys, so you be louder. You mind getting an interview? He asked me about the god body terminology give him some history.

Speaker 1: 42:45

He said he don't know.

Speaker 4: 42:45

That's why I said nah, nah what you're saying is right, but here's the thing we never got a response from the actual god body people. It's always the gods and they say they don't exist. We don't recognize it. It be some older gods and we not stupid out here. We know, we know. We got cousins and uncles and people walking all through our hood saying God, buddy, where'd they come from? So so here's the thing. In that nineties era let's keep it real, I'm Crip Jesus. So in the nineties era, when you had your Nas and AZs and dudes riding down the street and they Lexus selling crack saying peace, god. Some of them don't even got 120. Some of them ain't even official nation, but they all deal with somebody that is this is the God body type of right we ain't. We're not gonna lie right.

Speaker 1: 43:29

Right, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, it was. It made it it was. It was loosely used back in the days in the 90s. I'm about to show you something, guy.

Speaker 4: 43:39

Rap, lingo and all that. Yeah, I'm about to show you something, guy. I'm about to show you something, guy. Them kids grew up. Yeah, that uncle that sold crack his little nephews that he taught. They grew up what you going to tell them? They ain't street. You going to tell them they ain't, guy. They up to their uncle.

Speaker 4: 44:02

The guy by dude that came out of prison, yeah, he. So what happened is the god body thing is real, bro. And we talked to rasoon. He said no, I get it, he just. But we respect what he said. He said I'm just giving the true history. That's not the original lexicon, right, it is a street prison thing.

Speaker 4: 44:13

But the the trick is we want to act like the gods ain't in the streets, in prisons. Ain't we the gods ourselves? Ain't the majority of us in the streets? Yes, this is a thing, this is real. I wouldn't say the majority. Okay, my bad, pardon yourself, but the majority of the street people have found themselves caught in prisons and gangs and things of that nature. Being at the 5% are the gods that set to the side to be the malik's and raise us out of the hells and teaching the pits of hell. Right, I'm saying I could never get an initiation that's recognized on the streets as official in prison from any other group but the five percent, and for it to actually be official where you can actually pull me to the side. Ask me my lightener, ask me the questions. You get what I'm saying like no. So this, this, this system, was put together for us. If father allah suffered for taking it out the temple and doing what he did for us, that's my jesus, that's my career, jesus for sure, but I didn't.

Speaker 1: 45:14

I didn't want to go on a tangent about the god body terminology, but I'm just. I'm just doing a knowledge to this brother and the way he is, his manner in which he is in the chat. You know what I'm saying, but let's move on to, oh, you calling the brother again.

Speaker 4: 45:31

Well, let's see if he pick up. If not, we move on. Peace God. I just want to make sure your voice was clear. I think the other phone was quiet, so you know I went on one. I don't want to go on too much of a tangent, but they're just asking about the G-Body. Well, let them speak for themselves. What was y'all saying again?

Speaker 1: 45:48

So what I was saying was the brother said gangster lingo with God-body lingo, and then when he said God-body, I said, well, hold on, I just picked up on that. God body is not a terminology, it's like loosely used in a nation, it's not like a main thing, a main state in a culture where this is a language that is used constantly, with everybody, with the majority. That's what I was saying.

Speaker 2: 46:22

Okay, I can see that. I mean I'm not in disagreement with that.

Speaker 1: 46:29

Okay.

Speaker 2: 46:31

I will say this because Bud brings rain, hell, snow and earthquakes. You know, this is a terminology in which, when I came to the East Coast, this is a terminology in which, when I came to the East Coast, this is a terminology that 85ers use to describe what a 5%er was. Come on, they didn't know to say nation of gods or earth, or nation of 5%. So they said, oh, I'm from LA. Telling them, I'm God, oh, you, god, buddy. So I took that term and coined it. So there's a whole lot of brothers in the nation that use that. Matter of fact, my name's Big G Body, I'm Big God Body and I'm 120. I can take anybody through it. Allah said let me tell you something. I argued with the old God about 12 Jews. He told me don't use the 12 Jews. God bless his soul before he passed away and he wrote a whole degree on why the 12 Jews weren't right and exact. And some brothers use it, some don't, but this is still terminology in which brothers in the nation use.

Speaker 1: 47:27

Me personally, I love the 12 Jews. I love the 12 Jews.

Speaker 2: 47:31

It's only don't use the 12 Jews. See one thing Allah taught. Allah said that we can't be scared to join other people's organizations and create our own organizations. So this God body thing is an organization that I've named, not a nation outside my own, but an organization.

Speaker 1: 47:47

All right, so hold on, hold on, hold on. I don't know if the God can hear me.

Speaker 2: 47:51

I'm going to keep it real. When I was in New York, the guys that did call themselves God body. They didn't know 120. I've never met a God in New York that agreed with that term a new 120.

Speaker 4: 48:01

Yeah, but.

Speaker 2: 48:02

I coined it. I'm 120. Everybody around me is 120. They coined it and the 85ers love it. They understand it, even in LA, my brother, I'm God buddy, they go oh, you're a 5%. I'm like like like God.

Speaker 4: 48:19

Hold on.

Speaker 1: 48:20

God, I don't know if he can hear me, but now he said this brother, son of law, the 12 Jews, is not right and exact. No, he said it is right and exact, god. I see it now I see it. The 12 Jews is right and exact. It's in 120.

Speaker 4: 48:39

They're in the 120. They're in the 120.

Speaker 1: 48:42

They're in the 120. But now look, because we only got 10 minutes, god call me. We only got 10 minutes.

Speaker 2: 48:50

I understand. I bear in mind that it's not a coin term so far as most of the guys, but it's a coin term, it's a word that's used, that's for sure that's a fact.

Speaker 1: 49:00

It's a coin term, it's a word that's used, that's for sure, that's a fact.

Speaker 2: 49:02

If the gods or the 85ers are using it, it's still a coin word. When somebody in New York hear that peace, god, and they order it, they go oh, that's a god body. Right right, right right, so this is a term that's applied to us whether I'm using it or an 85er is using it to us whether I'm using it or a 85er using it.

Speaker 1: 49:19

That's a fact.

Speaker 4: 49:20

I want to say, for me being under Allah's dominion, for me, coming from the streets originally, that's what I was one of them, people who understood it as God body Gotcha, and be the real version of that. I feel like my last video was called God, body and Soul and when you listen to it, the first line is, as I remain conscious, on this twenty four thousand eight hundred ninety six miles circumference, it's a lot of dudes who are arguing about God body, who don't know that degree. I open the verse up with a degree. I'm sure, bro, we're not, we're not playing with it over here. We got that.

Speaker 1: 49:54

But we say to that God body, street dynamic we, we, we, we know them, them, we know them personally and we're here to teach them, right? Indeed, we don't, we don't, we don't. You know god, hold on hold on a second. We're gonna build on that. We only got 10 minutes. I want to go into.

Speaker 4: 50:10

How did you get from the five percent teachings into more science before we cut out so really, I go back to what I was saying earlier there's no division between these specific groups when, if you're really out here in these circles, y'all could call it afrocentric conscious, whatever. You're going to see the nation of islam, you're going to see the five percent nation, you're going to see the nation of guys and herbs, you're going to see the more scientific, you're for sure going to see some rosters and everybody else may come and go, but these five things are like our religions, based on almost geography, less than it has to do with, uh, the different teachings or mother, it's kind of like where you were at. So me being in the streets and in the prisons, I'm gonna say it again, there was no other group that I could be officially initiated into being a conscious brother in prison, except the five anyway. But when I was being initiated doing my 120, we learned about Haile Selassie, we learned about Prophet Noble Durali.

Speaker 4: 51:06

So I have to say when it says you know why did we bring Columbus, you know half original man Columbus to this poor part of planet Earth? I knew that those were the Nino brothers and the Morrison brothers. You know what I'm saying's. My lightener shows me that you got. I'm saying when you know, when me and dominic are talking about you know why do we take the devil? You know I'm saying off this part of the earth, we, we go into that historical, into what war went down in yemen, what you get. I'm saying so it's like I first came across that. Now, as far as the organization, I was literally driving down normandy avenue in south Central and saw a temple on 87th and Normandy. You know what I mean. Then I went to DMECA with the guy hey, hold on before you go there.

Speaker 1: 51:48

What faction C Kirkman Bay or Millie Hill?

Speaker 4: 51:53

nah neither neither it's uh, keanu Umar Bay Unity Temple.

Speaker 1: 52:00

Uh, oh, okay so I'm thinking about somebody else. It's a key new Omar Bay unity temple. Uh King, oh, okay, so I'm thinking about somebody else. So, unity temple. I forgot what faction that was, though, but uh okay. So you went into that. So you got your nationality card. You claim to proclaim your nationality with them, brothers. How long did it take you to get a nationality card in that faction?

Speaker 4: 52:20

Well, you get the card as soon as you proclaim.

Speaker 3: 52:23

Really.

Speaker 4: 52:23

It's the same. As soon as you proclaim though I'm saying you don't get it as soon as you walk in I'm saying as soon as you proclaim Whenever you decide to proclaim you get your card Right.

Speaker 1: 52:33

So you didn't walk in there on the first day and say, hey, I'm a Moor.

Speaker 4: 52:41

I'm proclaiming my nationality. Okay, that's what I mean. That's why I say I'm the chosen one. I thought we were Moors already. I never knew until recently that there was an argument amongst our people that they were Moors. I never knew that. When I was a kid I was watching a movie by Martin Lawrence with my dad called Black Knight. They kept calling him a Mo moron through the movie. My dad looked back at me and said you know what that means? I said no. He said it means black people. Now, later on I learned about the science of the word black, but all my life I thought more of it black people when I would hear stories randomly in a TV show or something about more they talk about black people. I just learned now I was like no, the more the gods You're, more that shit be blowing my mind when I be hearing people. I'm not a Moor, I'm an Asian-Egyptian.

Speaker 1: 53:22

Yo we need some gunshots for that.

Speaker 4: 53:29

Even the guys be getting mad. I be like. I thought we was the toughest Moors. I thought we was the God-bodied niggas. I thought we was the scientists that taught the white man all that they be like. Don't count them. Moors'd be like these dudes is tripping. One thing about the brother we just had on the phone right, he's the most important part of the group Because, like he said, he admitted it. He didn't go fake and say yeah, he said yo, no, yeah, it's the street. He said those dudes didn't even have 120. We coined the term. So it's the same thing with dealing with asiatics. You're out here really moving around. You're not going to not run into the boys. You know what I'm saying. You're not going to not. You know what I mean. So it's like either you deal with it or you don't.

Speaker 1: 54:07

So you didn't really go through a temple and like sit in the temple for Fridays and Sundays.

Speaker 4: 54:13

Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, I didn't proclaim right away.

Speaker 1: 54:17

Okay, so basically.

Speaker 4: 54:19

I'm going to keep it to you. We're all in a cut. We're not even going to play up here. So, as it says in the book, I was fresh out, I was still knee deep in the streets. I was still you know what I mean. But I was like this I was in prison doing this. So I wasn't going to just be fake, like okay, I'm in the streets, still the guy, you know what I'm saying. I still go on fridays and send out mail to my students. In prison, I still got food.

Speaker 4: 54:42

See, that's the beauty of the five percent nation guys earth. It's like something about it. Like you could be full-fledged in the streets and still teaching, like even if you you know I mean something about they put that obligation on this. So I was like trapped out. You could hear the first songs I was making. Like I was yeah, you know what I mean, but I was still teaching.

Speaker 4: 55:01

So, basically, going to the temple on friday for me I didn't proclaim my nationality for years. Going to the temple friday for me was my escape from the street. That was my first time to see some women dressed up, nice, that look like me. That's covered up, that's into the same thing. I'm into the one, talk about egyptians and shit like that, like you have this la, we're talking about bros. This ain't like probably out your way, where it's like all these beefing factions and everybody deep and all that. You know I'd be out there. But I mean out there kind of getting like out here now though, but out here though it's so dry with the knowledge, like for me, going to the temple was just like I get dressed, I go there.

Speaker 4: 55:41

I put on different dashikis, so that started affecting how I dressed in the streets. I learned my uh, my first video. Crips need jesus too. I'm running through la with the uh, with the uh, with the moroccan flag. So what's cool with that's a red flag, right, and I'm a crip, right. So, bro, it's like all these things have always had a direct effect on me. So I always, always, yeah, I pull up on the temple. I always tell dudes, like, if you're in LA and you even know about Morris signs, just pull up on the temple. It ain't going to be a more. You might want to come buy some oil, buy a dress, buy like, and dudes be having such a icky, dicky feeling. I'll be like I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1: 56:16

Yo, I'm going to be real with you. I'm going to say this publicly. This is why I would rather just support, like with my hat, just like this, no fez on. I'd rather just support, give you some bread, move some boxes, help. You know, do security stuff like that I ain't even saying that.

Speaker 4: 56:38

No, look, because that's like charity. I'm saying this real simple, and I hope people from la is watching this and people that's going to visit la. You don't got like the moors at all. Just forget the word more the fact that a person that's from the same marginalized group as you in america is doing something positive. And they selling oil, they selling incense, they're selling incense, they're selling natural. I'm talking about the temple. I'm mad. I can't speak for every other temple. We have an actual brick and mortar. I'm not talking about some niggas in their house scamming people. I know about those type of moors. No sympathy for them. I'm talking about this actual brick and mortar.

Speaker 4: 57:11

On 87th and Normandy in South Central Los Angeles we sell clothes, food oil, sell clothes, food oil, incense, soap, herbs. I can go on and on and on and on and on. This sister got it going on Crystals and they'll go buy that stuff from other people. They'll go get their fences from other people. It's weird. It's like who cares? Forget charity. We self-sufficient. It's Islam. We ain't no bums over here. We don't need no handouts. We're talking about why you want to be fake. I got my fans from a white guy Like what the hell? Corny, corny A lot of these conscious black people are corny. They go to the store and buy all their stuff from the white people.

Speaker 4: 57:56

I went to the Morris Trading Post on 87th and normandy because it was a trading post. I didn't proclaim my nationality. Up there for four years I spent money and hung out and tapped in and supported them for years. They ain't about no nationality and getting brainwashed. It's about supporting your people.

Speaker 1: 58:12

Everybody want to argue okay, can you say that one more time please?

Speaker 4: 58:17

not about no cars getting brainwashed, uh, learning how to break the law and get away with it none of this silly stuff people talk about. It's about supporting your people.

Speaker 1: 58:27

Indeed Yo. On that note, man, thank you for coming out this evening. I really appreciate you. We'll build offline and for more of the mysteries.

Speaker 4: 58:38

You know what I'm saying and the history tap in for the blue bible.

Speaker 1: 58:40

Thank y'all for having me and we are out of here. Peace, brother.