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Visual Manipulation: How Sight Controls Your Decisions

Ron Brown and Mikey Fever aka Sour Micky

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Your eyes are deceiving you every day, and you don't even realize it. In this mind-expanding conversation with Dr. Paul Dyer, we uncover the hidden pathway between what you see and how you react—a neural superhighway that often bypasses your logical brain entirely.

At the center of this phenomenon is what Dr. Dyer calls the "amygdala loop"—a direct connection from your eyes to your brain's fear center that triggers emotional responses before your rational mind has a chance to weigh in. This visual processing system evolved for survival but now dominates our modern decision-making in ways most people never recognize. From the colors in fast food logos to the carefully crafted appearances of politicians, visual triggers manipulate our emotions and behaviors at a subconscious level.

Perhaps most revealing is Dr. Dyer's breakdown of how this visual pathway affects racial interactions, particularly with law enforcement. The same police request can trigger dramatically different responses based on visual cues and past experiences stored in the amygdala. This isn't just academic—it's a matter of life and death when visual processing escalates routine encounters.

The relationship between the amygdala and ego creates what Dr. Dyer describes as "besties" in your brain—a partnership that defends your self-image regardless of facts. This explains why criticism or perceived disrespect can short-circuit logical thinking completely. Most shocking? Dr. Dyer estimates that "95% of your life runs subconsciously" through these visual-triggered pathways rather than conscious thought.

Ready to reclaim control of your visual processing? Dr. Dyer offers practical exercises to interrupt the amygdala loop, including mindful observation practices that strengthen your ability to see what's actually there rather than what your subcons

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Speaker 1:

you what's going on. Everybody is ron brown, lmt, the people's fitness professional. We have dr paul dyer on on on this. Ooh, I don't know what happened with that. He'll come back, anyway. So tonight we're talking about visual, we're talking about how visual affects our decisions, and yeah, so hold on one second, he is back. Yeah, so hold on one second, he is back. He is back. Visual affects our decisions. That's what we're building on, or talking about this evening, and, um, let's, let's go for it, let's go for it.

Speaker 2:

So so I, I got you know, we, we had known that we were gonna to may want to do this right, and I, because I am not, I'm just not like regular folk. But when you take, and this got me on the visual, and I saw this commercial about a Charmin the Charmin bear, he came home, he said something to his mother and his mother he has this little book behind him and he looks like he's trying to hide something. He said so what's going on? He's got glasses on and the bear is talking. Right, and it's about Charmin. But here's my thought on the visual why bears would never need glasses In its whole existence would never need glasses.

Speaker 3:

But now, that it's standing up learning algebra.

Speaker 2:

All of a sudden it has these other deficiencies. So I wondered why that is. If you look over evolution of time, for us to get more streamlined into male that we know now we might have had to lose a lot of those natural factors through evolution of time. Obviously we didn't have to run so fast because we could build, so that took the strength out of my legs. You see what I mean. We didn't have to wonder where our food was growing from because we were farming. So that took all that thinking out of it because we were farming, so that took all that thinking out of it. But when it comes to visual stabilization, it has such a strong effect on humans as we are now than most anything.

Speaker 2:

Think of how much we don't hear because someone says did you hear that? You go where you turn your head Like where are you talking about? So I can put a visual to it before I go back into. I wonder if I hear what. What did it sound like to you? It sounded like this Thinking through your hearing, I did hear that. But we don't do that. We go, man, did you hear that? And you're looking around like where Did something happen that I missed before I tapped into my hearing.

Speaker 2:

We have been visualizing what people have programmed for us to visualize and how it needs to affect our emotional being. Ie, commercials, Whatever, poster notes, Poster notes, whatever thing that's quick to your visual. Why has there been more women in car ads? Right, how does a woman make a car sell better when we know, statistically, women are the most, they're the abundance. Who buys big items, big ticket items? Very few men buy big ticket items without their wife. So why are there women in car ads? Because, visually, we want the man to earn and yearn for this car and then somehow make reason for it, to talk it with our wives.

Speaker 2:

But the visual is triggering all this. It's not logic, it's not this. It's not that it's visual, it's a very strong point because they have what you call visual artists for all of our politicians running for an office. What do you look like and what does your look say for you? It's marketing. They're not marketing your hearing, your smell, your taste, your touch. They're marketing your visual experiences wants pleasures. That is what they want to trigger. Almost like if you smell grandma's cornbread, you're going to start salivating. They want you to salivate through the visual.

Speaker 3:

Exactly.

Speaker 2:

So let me share my camera, let me, can you share the screen with me?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, upload it. They're not going to add you. Can you share the screen with me? Upload it.

Speaker 2:

Then I can add you.

Speaker 3:

Oh, it wants me to upload it. Yeah, you got to share it first, then I'll welcome it in. That was a dope thing you said about the whole car adds. What they do to trigger sensors in the brain and evoke a certain emotion, emotions out of you, yeah, yeah, yeah. So even down to the politicians, um, their presentation, their parents, someone where a red tie to exert power, that's that's, that's that represents power. So the color of the time showing the nuclear family of a president how he speaks, his accomplishments, because you know, that's all down to marketing, that's what marketing is.

Speaker 2:

So let me. We're getting here people for the visual because I wanted to. It's so psychological. It's so much psychological.

Speaker 3:

Like the colors of McDonald's the red and yellow Right or when you walk into a supermarket, the first thing you do every human being does this I'll bet you the first place you walk is towards the right. Am I right? That's?

Speaker 1:

where all the?

Speaker 3:

produce are the sweets and everything is towards the right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yep, it's to the right to share online video files, live PDFs file from my computer and then from my documents. Man, if we had known.

Speaker 3:

Why are you searching for that? Engage the listeners and the viewers. Don't forget to comment, like, share, subscribe people and YP Talk Show Super chats Go ahead.

Speaker 2:

And how? Because you know, and how. Because you know they say men are visual, this, or people are. What do you call this type of learner? They're mostly affected by this yeah.

Speaker 3:

auditorial learners, visual learners and those who require hands-on yeah.

Speaker 2:

You'll be amazed by what it has gotten you to do the things they want you to do.

Speaker 3:

Mm-hmm the conditioning.

Speaker 2:

I think I'm trying to open this, but this file is oh shoot.

Speaker 3:

Let me open this, but I can't. This file is oh shoot, is it? Do you have to file in large, maximizing your screen, or?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, my slide's coming up on this one. So the reason I want to show you this because I wanted to take you through the process. The first thing is it enters and the diagram I have on here is okay, now I can present because it's right here in the studio. There you go, okay. So can you expand this a little bit so people can see it, or is it all just me?

Speaker 1:

Let me see, the only thing I can do is this.

Speaker 2:

Yep, do that.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

So as people can see, your eyes come in, so that thymus, in the amygdala. We have known that the amygdala is. Now you can small it a little bit. Okay, you have known. The amygdala has always been part of your fear system fight, flight, things like that. Right, it's the oldest part of your brain for survival. That's all it knows. It's really. It doesn't learn more, it doesn't know how to survive better, whatever it can use to just think about survival. That's where that mygmia comes in, right Up here in the thymus, as it goes back to the visual cortex, my next, the next slide here.

Speaker 2:

That cortex now triggers the hippocampus pituitary and the hypothalamus Right, which we know just by up here it's the stress. So it starts shutting things down. The visual can shut emotions down that it does not register something familiar with. So it's looking for familiarity, it's not looking for logic. And in that immediate visual, if something triggers a past uncomfortableness, you start this circle loop of panic. Because circle loop of panic? Because it goes down. So it starts affecting your immune systems and below that we can't see it anyway it starts affecting your kidneys, your liver, your heart. The heart sends the most messages up into the brain. So just from that visual. If it doesn't recognize something familiar, it goes into survival or something that's happened in the past, it doesn't know future. Into survival or something that's happened in the past. It doesn't know future. It has no future. Your visual does not give you the future. The visual triggers everything from the past and if that is overwhelming, it stops a lot of what you call the prefrontal cortex from thinking critically. Because now it's running this loop.

Speaker 2:

I got my cortisol up there. Going on, I am triggering my motor skills Because in a fear base we have to protect ourselves in case something harms us. I got to figure out a way to get out of this. That's what it's working on. It's not working on logical thinking. If you're not a logical thinking in the consciousness, what I mean? Think forward, don't be reminded of something, and that's how you apply your logic. Something. And that's how you apply your logic, because that's how they get you to move and go in certain directions. Because something you're used to, something you're familiar with, something you recognize, I can move you that way.

Speaker 2:

The next thing as you go down here, so it starts, it triggers this parasympathetic nervous system. Right, you see how it's hard for you to maintain focus, it starts to release sleep hormones because it wants your mind to go into habitual, so you don't ever have to worry about thinking too hard. So that's where it releases the sleep hormones, the serotonin it wants to bring you down to like it's okay, I'm going to remember what I remember. This is how I live my life. It's going to be hard to change and I'm okay with that. That's what that hormone does to you. This is serotonin. But in this effect it has an effect If you don't know how to stop this circle from affecting it all the way down into your body, right Liver, digestive muscle, resting, heartbeat. So if you're you know, start triggering all those other stress things we've always talked about. That's what visual. That's what visual is. That's what that's the science of visual.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So let's say, if, uh, you know I have um advertisement and you know I want to put, I want people to react to the advertisement psychologically to maybe go out there and buy some something then they're going to put something out there that triggers an emotional response for them to move, for people to move. Okay.

Speaker 3:

Entice them certain colors sounds symbols yeah, yeah, wow, that's deep.

Speaker 2:

Now how would I recognize and believe me? Trust me, this is not a jab. 95 percentile of the people are. This is what this is, Unless you train yourself to think about what you've seen or what you're looking at as a behavior analysis. When I look at people, I look at for who they are In that moment. That gives me way more information Than looking at a past video. I can look at a past video and compare, but we humans A lot of us look at something as more experience, our emotions, things we're taught. So we look at more of the past for reference than looking at the information given to you at the point. And that's how you know you're in a strong visual loop.

Speaker 3:

Okay. So you basically say I can't help but to say, dr Dyer, when you teach, it's like it's for all, but it's like this is geared towards African-American community and blacks abroad, because everything that you're saying to me it ties back to what people in this country have endured and abroad and people of color, basically.

Speaker 2:

I'll give you a perfect example. There's something that I've been trying to fight for this type of education around the country and some people anyway. When blacks get pulled over, people of dark skin get pulled over, or in their front porch, on their lawn, walking down the street, anything. When a police officer says can I see some ID?

Speaker 3:

Right.

Speaker 2:

Pulled over. Can I see your license? Blacks know now you don't have to give up your ID unless it has something to do with you. The police officer has to tell you why they stopped you before they ask for your license. Right, you can be right and still be dead being right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah because what it turns into by police officers, white police officer turns into I asked for it, you give it to me. Now it jumps into resisting, resisting arrest Right, or whatever they can make up at that time. Now you could be legally right. You don't have to show them that the passenger never has to give an ID or their name.

Speaker 3:

Exactly.

Speaker 2:

This is not their property. But when you do that out in the street, what happens? Because it's so visual of negative things we have in our mind about the police, our tone comes out differently, not because I'm speaking my mind, but my tone is a lot more threatening. It's a lot more I'm going to boy, you have no idea. If I get out of this car I'm going to whoop you or whatever, right, because if a white person does it, both visuals are in the same level playing field. That's why a white person being pulled over can I'm not doing this. Nope, get your supervisor, you ain't going to do me. The opposite color comes in. They reach in your car, they're dragging you out of your car and you're like what is going on and you're resisting arrest. All this because we don't align visually, which triggers certain kinds of historical emotions gotcha that's how the visual is such a hard player, even on our everyday lives.

Speaker 2:

It's what's depicted on television.

Speaker 3:

That's how the visual is such a hard player, even on our everyday lives. It's what's depicted on television and, as you said, the mental trauma, the scarring, you know you, basically you in constant trepidation. So that's why in our communities mostly like people with poor health, because their mind is constantly going, they replay things from the past and what they've seen on television.

Speaker 2:

So how do you get out of this? You can say let's go back to the car. Why'd you pull me over, sir? I need to see a licensed driver. It is my right to request you, tell me why you pulled me over. He starts saying are you trying to resist arrest? That's when all that stops. Here's my license, or I'm not giving you anything and let's go. You know, detain me Right Down at the police station. Let's go do that Because I'm not speaking anymore. If you haven't told me, they'll tell you to get out of the car, put your hands behind your back and you're going downtown. It's a little bit annoying, but you get to then tell your story in a court Because they can't explain by camera. We're breaking out our cameras now that I asked for something, I requested it and all of a sudden it turned into this. But if I raise my voice, you're wrong and it changes the outcome, or it has a possibility of changing the outcome of how badly this reflects on the officer.

Speaker 1:

Got you, got you, got you. Now the visual loop. If you could explain that one more time, because as you explained it, it went through the eyes, brain, and then it went through the internal organs, there Right, and then it went through the internal organs there, right?

Speaker 2:

So, as you can see up on the picture there still, that once it comes in it comes through that prefrontal cortex but it has a straight B line to the thymus and the amygdala, right that circle to the visual cortex. That's the loop. The amygdala, the thymus, picks up the chemistry right. Once it starts to do, the visual cortex says how am I supposed to respond? The amygdala sees like, oh, I can grab this through experiences, education or things in the past. So now, after this little discussion, and if it's not a thought process, because this can break as soon as it goes to the thymus, it goes to the visual cortex. It doesn't have to go to the amygdala. But when we are visually stressed or something is alarming to us, this is the route. After that, negatively, it goes through that cortex, right, it hits. Now it opens up some of these other nervous systems and adrenal systems and some other systems in your body. As you know, you have 12 systems in your body, right? So this is saying how negatively affects, which affects your heart, your liver, your kidneys, right? All that's starting to be affected by what you're visualizing from the past. This doesn't trigger this negative effect because you can't have stress on something you've never been before. Because you can't have stress on something you've never been before. By definition, you cannot have stress on something you've never did before. The only way you create the stress is your mind tries for you to associate different things that were scary to you, that you afraid of, and put that into this category, and it's going to give you that alarm like, oh, I, I don't know if I could do that. I, I have anxiety. But you've never flown a plane, you've never been on a plane or a train. You know what I mean, but I just got this anxiety. Well, that's your telling you. You have the anxiety because you've never been here before. You know what I mean. This is new. So how can you have something of old in something of new? You can't.

Speaker 2:

So then, after it goes through that cycle, it starts affecting how it comes down to the spinal cord. I could have brought in the nerves that came off, that C8 there, the C5 there, that's the breathing there. I could have brought in more files. It would just lose you into the rabbit hole because there's nerves and basically it says it. That's why it says provides constant muscle stimulation, the nerves that runs and delivers that information, has all these other friends and it's like, oh, I didn't know you were going through this, so let me help you with this. So that's why you know why your digestive system could be off. You can have diarrhea, you have a nervous stomach, you feel like you want to throw up.

Speaker 3:

High cholesterol.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so you have all these other informations being passed over. Passed around all because what you see, Right right, right right. Gotcha. So when we talk about consciousness and we have talked about consciousness and the subconscious, this is where the subconscious immediately takes over is right in the amygdala. Right, because, if I'm thinking, there is no need for the amygdala to even wake up.

Speaker 1:

Right, right. So for what I know about the amygdala is that the amygdala is like you know, it's like it's pretty much about fear. It regulates, you know, um that fear emotion right now, for what I learned about it is that it's not connected somewhere. It's not really connected to the brain.

Speaker 2:

I think something no, it's a little lube. It's got a little bridge to go through, it's connected, but it's not really connected to the brain, I think. No, it's a little loop, it's got a little bridge to go through, it's connected, but it's not like the other big part.

Speaker 1:

Right, right, right. So now, how does that? How does the amygdala being that it doesn't? It's attached to the brain, but it's kind of not. How does it affect the brain? That's kind of not. How is it? How does it affect the brain? That's what I'm trying to figure out, like well, because there's still.

Speaker 2:

There's still a way to signal between the amygdala and parts of the other body right, because it's still close to down here into our brain stem. So it it has to pass by. But the amygdala has a lot of influence because, basically, what it says I've done this. I've been here before, this is what I was told, this is what I remember, this is what I'm used to. A lot of this stuff is going to harm you. Protect yourself, make sure you have food, make sure you Protect yourself, make sure you have food, make sure you have water, make sure you have safety. If something directly affects me this is why people don't volunteer If it doesn't directly affect me, I'm going to shelter my energy in Right, that's what it is yeah.

Speaker 1:

Now, how do you gain control over the amygdala?

Speaker 2:

By thinking, by consciously thinking, of what I'm like, the process. I'm going to say this because you have time in your brain. I'm going to say this but what is the outcome of how this officer approached my car? Is it reasonable that I'll go through this two or three times before I see the officer get agitated? Do I want to make a statement here? Am I trying to just prove my point because I have you on YouTube? Am I thinking I'm going to get a lot of big payday out of this if he really harms me or twists my shoulder? The problem with those ideas is that you didn't do the research. You heard about a couple of two or three people 10, 100, whatever that gotten some money out of the police and you're going to use that as your welfare plan. Are you thinking this through? Probably not, right.

Speaker 3:

So basically you have to be your own prototype. Probably not right?

Speaker 1:

so basically you have to be your own prototype every day, all the time got you that makes a lot of sense okay, now, as far as the visual in the subconscious mind, the amygdala, and so the visual conscious mind, the unconscious mind, the unconscious mind or the subconscious mind in the amygdala, it pretty much all works in unison, right, right, it, it so it. You recorded already some past trauma, yeah, and then, and then you see something and that, whatever you see, that alert, that alarms you, it, it brings you, it triggers like a past experience and it triggers.

Speaker 2:

It triggers the same emotions you had at that experience that you are equating to at this time. So it produces because maybe you're older, you're a little bit stronger, whatever your life has changed it produces more chemicals of a negative side, so this doesn't get like, oh, I'm getting this. No, it produces more and it builds up in the body. These type of chemicals don't? They cause cellular damage. So cells are being damaged because of this, of long periods, of all day, of this. So even your good cells you know it's like good cells walking down a high school hallway full of hoot looms and these good cells are just trying to get to class and you got all these other knuckleheads banging from wall to wall, laughing. And you got all these other knuckleheads banging from wall to wall, laughing and giggling, all this other stuff, and came to school to socialize but not to get the education. That's why it's all about what happened in the past, because they don't need any new information or education.

Speaker 1:

Okay, makes sense. That makes sense. So, being that you know the amygdala and you know you have to in the subconscious mind, you have to, actually, you have to be, you have to actively put work in, so to speak. Yeah, yeah and that's, and there, it is.

Speaker 2:

I have to put the work in, so to speak yeah, yeah, and that's and that's and there and there it is. I have to put the work in.

Speaker 1:

So do you think that you can put that work? You could use visual to possibly fix whatever's going on there.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely Visual. You can do instead of looking at something and never saying it out loud about what you just looked at and you think you're just scanning the room, but then close your eyes and ask yourself you scan the room, but what do you remember seeing? Go into another room right, you know what section you you started from and stopped as you normally, turn your head right, go to another room and ask myself what did I just see? How many things you could write down and be right or even be close. I'm telling you now. I've done it to my students. I've been doing it for a long time. It takes years to practice that type of concentrated thinking as I'm scanning the room. Now we train these other professionals to do this type of stuff, like a good detective right Professionals to do this type of stuff, like a good detective right or other people who do investigation.

Speaker 2:

But for us we scan room and like, oh yeah, that looks the same.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, which is why they say in the situations.

Speaker 1:

an alligator could walk by you and it wouldn't trigger anything, so can you use colors.

Speaker 2:

You know, like different colors, different paintings, pictures to help you reset, if you will, for lack of a better term. No, because you're really working on what you call centering, focusing and, like you, only look at a particular thing for a particular time instead of looking as you are walking through your own personal life. As you are walking through your own personal life, and when you can, when you have time, you can go to an office or a place of work every day. Do it in a locker room, whatever you can in your house, in your kitchen, just look around and then get a piece of paper and write down what you saw You're going to start. This is what I saw, but is it what you remember?

Speaker 3:

That's true.

Speaker 2:

That's going to give you. Once you open your eye, be like oh man that's not there anymore. She must have taken it down, or she must have put it away, or somebody must have moved it, because I was sure I remember being there.

Speaker 3:

Basically, you're centering, your, centering your, your attention, subconsciously, constantly and subconsciously, basically Right.

Speaker 2:

You, you, you, you, you're learning to be aware of what you are consciously actively doing what you are consciously actively doing, and that's how you sort of reset. Right.

Speaker 3:

That's how you reprogram.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because you, you can. You can say, you know, you can look around and like, just like you said, like I look at my desk and I'm sure, I'm sure this pen is going to be there every time. And then, but is it really there, right? Right, because in your mind you think it's there, but maybe it's not. Maybe my daughter moved it, or something like that. And I'm like now I'm like okay, I got to kind of like rethink this whole. That's why. Is that the reason why when, when things are missing, you're so like disheveled?

Speaker 2:

Well, that is great, because when you're disheveled all the way down to its core is the unknown.

Speaker 1:

And we fear what we don't know.

Speaker 2:

We fear what we don't know.

Speaker 1:

We fear what we don't know. Okay.

Speaker 3:

That's a fact, it's a fact, that's a fact.

Speaker 2:

But we've said this before over time again Words have meanings and frequencies and vibrations and it has a way to travel into your body by those waves and frequencies, because the words are the words. You can surround it with other obligatory words to hopefully mean something in a sentence, but that's not the case. Right Words, all words have their own significant vibrations.

Speaker 2:

Like I know people use fire or something good. Right, that's fire, it's fire, but the word is negative. The last time fire was used as a positive is when they invented it. But fire means in the dictionary destruction. It talks about heat and flame and oxygen and the flammables and stuff like that.

Speaker 1:

But it's negative, right, right, right. To take it back to the visual and resetting your amygdala and your response sensors or your trigger responses your trigger responses your trigger responses. What about the visual and your, your hearing sensories? They work together.

Speaker 2:

They can work together, but some have alternate issues. Some have more priority what they think it is. This is why you can't trust a witness.

Speaker 3:

You said that, dr Dyer, about the sensory and the visual and the auditorial. It's like walking down the street, for instance right Subconsciously, you know all the sounds. It's like before you sense danger. The sounds somehow always shift. You can tell something's off. When the sounds shift, the movement around you changes. Isn't that part of that as well? The amygdala it is.

Speaker 2:

But here's the thing. Let me explain to you this way too, because I think I understand how Ron was asking. Is that so? I see something? I have a fear response. But as it goes through and picks up in my hearing, my hearing should be like why are you afraid of that, right?

Speaker 2:

yeah so it doesn't. It doesn't have a bigger decision-making. As the car gets filled up with all its other senses, visual drives a lot. It's always driving Right. It's always driving Right, unless you're thinking. Then the other five senses are riding in the back of the minivan and what you call there's another driver. Because we can't drive and think, the visual sees, it recognizes, it knows where it's going to go, how it's going to travel.

Speaker 2:

Audio is questioning it. But you're starting to make a lot of sense. With your experiences, your education, you're looping things. Now this goes back into why is it such a strong way of wanting to loop? It's because 95% of your life is ran subconsciously. So the mind wants to put everything into habitual, which makes it easier to use less protein, less carbohydrates and less energy. And I'll say what I think is important to where the brain really has to do the critical thinking. And if I can really move that down to let you think, eh, it's not that big a deal. You probably say, forget about it, right, and let the subconscious do its thing. Not many people think in a day. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Not many people think in a day. That's what I'm trying to tell you.

Speaker 1:

Not many people think in a day.

Speaker 2:

They don't. Thinking takes work. See if people thought throughout the day they wouldn't come back from work going. Man, that was a hard day Because that's when they had to think. That lets you know what the rest of your life is like.

Speaker 1:

Everything is just like programmed Nature, yep.

Speaker 2:

A loop Got you. When kids will come home from kindergarten full day kindergarten or first grade they crash, they crash, they take a nap, they're going to lay down, they're going to be. I'm hungry. I just want to chill in their own little six-year-old way, seven-year-old way. I just want to chill. They're not want to think because this whole direction be quiet over here it's getting them to think. Humans do our best to try not to think and black America does the best at it with the least return. We'll spend 1.2 point trillion dollars on gear and stuff for anyone else, but if we did it for ourselves, we'd be the richest nation. We'd be one of the richest nations.

Speaker 3:

Exactly.

Speaker 2:

But they don't look at it logically, they look at it as it's easy. I'll go there. I don't have to. I know what they mean. You know I got it. I still got to go and get myself they know I'm down with them shop at chain.

Speaker 3:

They got it for half price. But let me ask you to start a black school.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if I got that money. What do you mean? You just spent $20 a week at this store and you could have at least given that $100 to me. I didn't ask you to give me $1,000 or $100. You got it, you got it, you don't. You don't your $100, $10, $5. We want to start a black education center. You got it, you got it, you don't. You don't. You're a hundred dollars, ten dollars, five bucks. We want to start a black education center. How many people chip in? No, but they'll go buy that natural cup of coffee. They'll go spend easily the money they could have donated to something they believe in, but it doesn't trigger them visually. So that means so many people can't see forethought, which is why they can never see advancement.

Speaker 1:

So it's hard to talk to people about advancement when it doesn't have a visual connection to them. To trigger the most major traffic circle you've been in is a visual lifestyle, which brings me to this. Now, this is a small example. I changed the thumbnails on the podcast page. The thumbnails didn't have faces, they just had images. Do you know? The numbers went down.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I was telling people that people got accustomed to the visualization. It's all visual, that's all they know.

Speaker 2:

It's all they know is visual.

Speaker 3:

Now you got them thinking gotta look for this. I know they hit a name on the show every time in the intro NYP talk show.

Speaker 1:

That's all you gotta type in right, but the changing of the thumbnails brought the numbers down because, it's visual something they don't visually connect with right, so that's heavy, that that's so.

Speaker 3:

Now we we from this podcast and past experiences excuse me we know that the visual is extremely, extremely I told ron that there's the visuals is very important because people, they will assume, not knowing what goes on behind the scene and we'll be arguing with you over $85. You know what I'm saying it's just people that see, it's the visual, they assume they see this podcast and be like nah, these dudes, it's not like that, there's a lot to it, yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's a lot to doing this right here.

Speaker 2:

It's just like if you gave someone a choice of taking $50,000 cash now in front of you or I'll give you $10,000 a week, which one would you take? They can't see. $10,000 a week, which one would?

Speaker 3:

you take.

Speaker 2:

They can't see $10,000 a week. I'll take the week, but they can see $50,000 in front of them. They'll take that now and they're like I'll decide what to do with it. So now I'm bringing in what you call the ego, which is best friends with the amygdala.

Speaker 1:

Oh, wait a minute. You got to explain that right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, ego and the amygdala of what it does. It's their best, they're the besties of best, like they went to, like grade school together.

Speaker 2:

Best Ego wants to stand up for something it remembers being better at, because ego can't be Present or future, because ego only Defends what it believes, takes away from me as a person what I think of me, not what the numbers say, not what things say. Just what I think of me, not what the numbers say, not what things say. You know what I mean. Just what I think of me. It will defend that as a survival. So it uses all the skills that amygdala does to trigger the same chemical response. Man, I wouldn't do that. You'd be like a fool. What are you calling me A fool? What you calling me a fool? What me a fool? You know me now. You call me a fool Forgotten, all about why I told him Not to do that. He's not questioning that. He's upset about the fool.

Speaker 2:

So now I'm going to defend, I'm going to do this anyway. You can't tell me shit, right? But if he? So now I'm going to defend, I'm going to do this anyway, you can't tell me shit, right. But if he viewed you as something he personally respected, it would have never gotten there. It'd be like hey, mikey, what are you talking about? You wouldn't do what, what you're about ready to do right there, and then we talk about whatever it. What you're about ready to do right there. Then we talk about whatever it is. I was about ready to do we could talk about it logically.

Speaker 2:

I see your understandings. Oh, I didn't know that Now I can make a decision.

Speaker 3:

Exactly.

Speaker 2:

Eagle stands in front of all that.

Speaker 3:

Not a fan of the eagle at all.

Speaker 1:

No, so the eagle Is basically attached to fear.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I knew eagle as another. I used to use it as another Acronym called edge god out.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's built on false pretense, grandual illusion Like I'm the omnipotent, untouchable. That's the ego, that's the ego.

Speaker 2:

It's like a young running back coming into the league and gets his first start saying I can carry 30 times. Do you know what it's like to carry 30 times in the NFL? We'll probably have to carry out in a stretcher. Your body's going to be so sore. If you don't build up to it, that little silly 18 games you play Back down there Because you made the playoffs or whatever. There's nothing compared to banging up with these guys. 30 carries a game. Who's telling you this? Emmitt Smith, you're going to listen or you're not going to listen Can't tell me nothing. That's just an old man. He don't know. He don't know my body, the whole game right.

Speaker 3:

It sounds ridiculous. He don't know my body.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. I was running back in the NFL, for you know 60, 70 years and you're just now coming in. All right, it isn't. Ego doesn't get logic.

Speaker 1:

Mm-mm. Don't you think ego is necessary though?

Speaker 2:

Okay, you need to explain to me how, where I can tell you as equally and more productively conscious thinking outweighs anything you could ever do.

Speaker 1:

Well, it depends on what you consider ego, because ego also for me, is a defense mechanism to assure your safety and dignity.

Speaker 2:

Okay, as a conscious being. You have went through what dignity is to me. You've gone through dignity. These are all the same questions To the conscious person. What is dignity? How would they know how to judge me on my dignity? Um, what type of you know? So it goes through this logical way of who said it, where they said it, when they said it. What's what's going on? There's a history to does you know what is this triggering from the conscious? Conscious level is thinking of all that. It's very fast, it's not as slow as me saying it, but it's going through all that possibilities, configurations, ego goes right back to experience.

Speaker 2:

Someone's talked to me like this before I don't like it, I'm going to defend myself. That's it. I don't like it, I'm going to defend myself. That's it. It's like me Going back to Mikey telling me I'm doing a fool thing. If I do that, I'm so focused on being called a fool Because In my past Someone's called me a fool. Whatever someone thought of me as a fool, I didn't like the negativity of being called a fool. Fool has a very Strong emotional pull. Whatever Someone thought of me as a fool, I didn't like the negativity of being called a fool. Fool has a very strong emotional pull and the word triggered that pull.

Speaker 1:

Not my logic thinking.

Speaker 3:

Got you, got you, that's deep, got you.

Speaker 1:

Wow, I hope the audience got that right there. It's, it's, it's um, this part of the podcast. You got to really think you know if you, if you want to stay on that loop man, good luck. But you got to really pay attention to really get what Dr Dyer is saying, and right now it's clear. Thank you for coming out, dr Paul Dyer, really appreciate you. We're going to get this is pre-recorded, but we're going to get Dr Dyer back on a live. That's a fact For sure, for sure. Thank you for all who viewed this. What is it? I'm going to post this, I think, saturday. Thank you guys for viewing this Saturday. Really appreciate you. We're back on live with Dr Paul Dyer next week and we are out of here and peace. Peace are out of here and peace.