NYPTALKSHOW Podcast

Diddy vs Cassie, Bad Boy History, Brooklyn Bridge and Knicks

Ron Brown and Mikey Fever aka Sour Micky

Send us a text

From the meteoric rise of Bad Boy Records to the shocking allegations against its founder, this episode dives deep into the complex legacy of one of hip-hop's most influential empires.The crew unpacks the current Diddy trial with unflinching honesty, questioning where the actual trafficking and coercion charges stand amid sensational headlines. Rather than simply condemning or defending, they explore the nuanced power dynamics at play, examining how accountability works in relationships where both parties made choices. "We're not advocating domestic violence," they clarify, while still asking tough questions about the motivations behind the case.What makes this conversation particularly illuminating is how it connects to Bad Boy's origin story. We trace Diddy's journey from Howard University student to music mogul, revealing how he transformed Uptown Records' blueprint by adding street elements and high-end fashion to create an aspirational lifestyle brand. The business practices come under scrutiny too—how Diddy received approximately $70 million from Arista Records but only gave Biggie $60,000, establishing a pattern that would define the label's approach to artist relationships.The cultural impact of Bad Boy extends far beyond music. Diddy's vision created an entire economy of style, sound, and swagger that changed hip-hop forever. But as the hosts point out, "Morality is not a part of the limelight"—perhaps explaining the current downfall we're witnessing.Whether you're a hip-hop historian, a fan seeking deeper understanding, or simply intrigued by the intersection of power, business, and culture, this raw, unfiltered conversation offers insights you won't find in mainstream coverage. Follow NYP Talk Show for more truth-telling conversations that don't shy away from hip-hop's most complicated stories.

Fit, Healthy & Happy Podcast
Welcome to the Fit, Healthy and Happy Podcast hosted by Josh and Kyle from Colossus...

Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify

Support the show

NYPTALKSHOW EP.1 HOSTED BY RON BROWNLMT & MIKEY FEVER

#consciousness #spirituality #meditation #love #awakening #spiritualawakening #spiritual #mindfulness #healing #energy #selflove #yoga #enlightenment #wisdom #peace #lawofattraction #inspiration #life #awareness #soul #motivation #universe #lightworker #nature #quotes #happiness #believe #higherconsciousness #art #gratitude #hiphop #rap #music #rapper #trap #beats #hiphopmusic #newmusic #producer #artist #love #dance #rapmusic #rnb #dj #art #hiphopculture #explorepage #soundcloud #spotify #rappers #freestyle #musicproducer #youtube #bhfyp #beatmaker #instagood #s #musician #follow
#newyork #nyc #newyorkcity #usa #losangeles #miami #love #brooklyn #california #manhattan #ny #fashion #london #music #atlanta #photography #hiphop #art #newjersey #florida #instagram #instagood #chicago #canada #texas #paris #travel #longisland #rap #explorepage
#healthy #fitness #healthylifestyle #healthyfood #health #food #fit #motivation #workout #lifestyle #gym #love #vegan #weightloss #foodie #fitnessmotivation #instagood #nutrition #training #foodporn #instafood #fitfam #diet #bodybuilding #yummy #healthyliving #exercise #healthyeating #wellness #delicious
#currentevents #currentaffairs #news #gk #politics #upsc #ssc #knowledge #podcast #gujarati #ias #discussion #gpsc #debate #generalknowledge #instagram #currentaffairsquiz #politicalscience #youth #gujarat #voting #ips #current #politicalcompass #mun #gov...

Speaker 1:

peace world. How you doing. It's your brother, mikey fever. Nyp talk show hip-hop edition. We got clip in the building. We got shawny other brother a little later what up, what up, what up happy tuesday. Good morning, good evening wherever, whichever part of where you're at, welcome, man. Missed you. Fellas. What's good, man? Forget my life, forget my life, hold on right. Yeah, you're good, you're good, you're good. What's going? What's going on, fellas. What up, what up?

Speaker 2:

we here, man it's a lot to talk about definitely a lot, a lot to talk about. We need to discuss Trev, trev, I want to start off with New York fans wowing on other teams On. Paces. Why are we wowing? I'm not a New York Knicks fan, but why are we wowing?

Speaker 1:

I've seen the videos. Man, New Yorkers are crazy.

Speaker 4:

It's the excitement, yo Huh, what'd you say, trav?

Speaker 3:

I mean, new York never knows how to act. These are Swiss rolls. I'm just letting y'all know.

Speaker 2:

Yo, that's even worse. That's the chocolate with the cream in the middle.

Speaker 3:

Whoa.

Speaker 1:

Yo, speaking of which funny stuff. Did you see that Fat Joan Jada clip when he's like yo, I'm a cereal eater, let's eat it.

Speaker 2:

I ain't going to lie, I'm going to keep it 100. When I was a kid, you couldn't tell me nothing about Grey's Papaya.

Speaker 4:

It was the greatest hot dog on planet Earth to me, hey hold on, we ain't, we ain't gonna, we ain't gonna make eating hot dogs like come on now, bro, like some yo, some things be getting out of control like pause wow yeah like, hey, yo you know what, ain't doing no favors, though, like why you call them like, why they calling them glizzies, like that ain't doing no favors, though, like why you call them like, why they calling them glizzies, like that ain't doing it no favor.

Speaker 2:

That's a DC term, so that glizzy term started in DC. That's the name really for hot dogs. That's what they call a hot dog in DC.

Speaker 3:

So I thought that was a young time that ain't doing no favors yo, that's just DC slang, DC slang really.

Speaker 2:

When they say I'm going to get a hot dog, they would say I'm going to go get a glizzy.

Speaker 4:

I don't like that I love DC. Don't get it twisted.

Speaker 1:

I love DC, but I don't like that though.

Speaker 4:

I don't like that.

Speaker 3:

Back to your point. Real quick, cliff. Let me tell you papayas, before I got married, saved my life. $2? That's what I'm trying to tell you $2.

Speaker 2:

We all come from the ghetto. Why we act like pause? Franks and Beans ain't hold us down growing up.

Speaker 3:

It holds me down now. It holds me down now. That's what I'm saying. Never leaving that alone, never leaving that alone.

Speaker 4:

He said some things don't make it to the past man I used to go to Gray's Papaya.

Speaker 2:

That's when the hot dogs was 50 cents, 96th Street. You get a limited toppings.

Speaker 3:

Sauerkraut and mustard. For me, sauerkraut and mustard, yeah sauerkraut.

Speaker 2:

I used to get the sauerkraut and mustard.

Speaker 4:

Onions and mustard they closed a joint on 86th Street though right they moved it, they moved it they moved it to a different location Papaya can't move, but Grey's Papaya is still there. Gotta take a trip up there that papaya world gave me, you know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, you know it's New Yorkers. We know how we do.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think the one on the famous one that's right on the corner Grey's Papaya. I think it's opened back up.

Speaker 1:

Word.

Speaker 2:

I like them better than Papaya King. Papaya King got better drinks. You still want to join on Fordham right?

Speaker 3:

No no no, no. Papaya King is on Fordham, but the original one Grey's Papaya, so I think 70-something Street right?

Speaker 1:

No disrespect, I'm not eating nothing from the Bronx, bro, you're bugging the Bronx got some fire.

Speaker 2:

You're bugging, you're bugging. I know what he's talking about You're bugging.

Speaker 3:

I live around. I used to live around the corner from the gyro.

Speaker 4:

You can't come to my house. No more people.

Speaker 1:

The Bronx got some fire. Yeah, yeah, you can't come here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Check you at the door. Yo, the bar's got the best beef patties in New York City.

Speaker 1:

Talk about it, man. If you're talking about, like you know a little more.

Speaker 4:

Gyro King, gyro King, gyro King is fire and we top two on chopped cheese and we top two on chopped cheese.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, because Brooklyn chopped cheese can hit Top two on that.

Speaker 1:

Nah, you got to go to Court Street man. Nah, you got to go to Court Street man. You got to go to Court Street Deli. I mean, you get to Smith Street Deli, you get the best job. John Cheese ain't here. You got to go to a specific deli.

Speaker 4:

What's he talking about? I got to find the one deli in Brooklyn. Go to any deli.

Speaker 2:

If you block in Harlem, you'll find a fire, john Cheese, that's a fact.

Speaker 1:

I give it that man. I give it that man. That's the hustler's diet right there, $7 you straight.

Speaker 2:

I'm just mad that they gentrified our sandwich though B-Lake. That joint was literally $4 $4 for the whole hero chop cheese. Now that joint is $8, $9 B-Lake that's a wrath, while we on food.

Speaker 3:

I mean, I know this ain't on topic, really, but while we on food did y'all see the crazy craze that's going on right now? I mean, I know this ain't on topic, but we on food Did y'all see the crazy craze that's going on right now with Deli Boys?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they're going crazy on this block. They're going crazy Yo 134th and 7th.

Speaker 3:

This store's been there forever. I don't know how long you can literally you was able to walk in there at 2, 3 in the morning get a whole meal. Now it's a line. I'm like yo, I hate that, because in two weeks that line's going to disappear and it's going to be like Deli Boy's is done. That's old news. I'm like yo, this is crazy.

Speaker 2:

The problem that I have is that the prices are going to go up because of the rush. The prices is going to go up because of the rush Quick spike.

Speaker 4:

Quick spike in prices, because of quick spike in customers.

Speaker 2:

I wouldn't have been able to listen. Did he go through it? Right now? It seems like everybody. Just, I'm going to be honest with you. I don't believe nothing. Cassie told him. I believe somebody told him. I think she was with it the whole time. I think she played her hand very smart. I think she was a part of that whole scheme. I think she figured out a way to get a come up and get away from Diddy at the same time. But she was engaging with a lot of that herself and she was participating in it willingly.

Speaker 1:

She did get a lot of come up on that too, no disrespect, like, as you said, she was a willing participant and I get it, you know, for a woman to endorse so much. We know about Stockholm Syndrome and feeling hopeless and all that. But with the text messages, the text messages basically show that she was was, as you said, a willing participant. You had options to run out of there, but you fell in love with that lifestyle. You stood there, listen she was he was.

Speaker 2:

She was laughing and torturing kim porter per kim porter's friends, when puffy was doing the same thing to kim porter. So I don't have no remorse for you if you was. You wasn't standing by women when you allowed another woman to get beat up like this and get treated like this, so I so. So I can't. For me personally, I can't stand with you. I don't think no woman should be tortured like that or tormented like that, but at the same time, not at. You played the game. You entered the world First off. You was with Ryan Leslie before Diddy and you moved on to him. It wasn't like the relationship was bad. You moved on to him because you thought Puff was going to put you in a better situation career-wise.

Speaker 1:

She got enamored.

Speaker 2:

So because you went to Puff career-wise, and then they go with you. First off, you wasn't talented, you just looked bad. Good, we're just going to keep it all the way above.

Speaker 4:

I've never seen the. Where was that at?

Speaker 1:

That's that bad boy magic, that's that bad boy magic.

Speaker 3:

She's supposed to be the Rihanna of bad boy. Let's just put that out there. I feel like she's supposed to be the Rihanna of Bad Boy. Let's just put that out there. I feel like she's supposed to be the Rihanna of Bad Boy. She's very pretty right. Now here's my thing. Who was her manager? Because, like you said, she came in the game with Ryan Leslie as her manager. I'm pretty sure he was going to produce a lot of stuff for her and he was her boyfriend. She signed a 10-album deal with Bad Boy. How did that happen? Who was negotiating that deal and who said yo, 10 albums. This is not an NFL team fam, that's a lifetime contract. You got here Now I can see where she probably got caught up, because that's his thing.

Speaker 1:

He isolated her.

Speaker 3:

He like him light. You know what I'm saying. I don't see grooming, I just see like, alright, I got me a nice young thing before anybody try to get her, because Puff is one of those sniper dudes. Sean said it. I've seen him spend half a mil on her in Paris. I don't know how you do that, but it is what it is.

Speaker 2:

But you're spending everybody's royalty checks.

Speaker 1:

This was the locks check.

Speaker 4:

They were supposed to get I right.

Speaker 2:

They locked that. This was the locks check they was supposed to get.

Speaker 4:

I was just about to say that the locks money.

Speaker 3:

Buff ain't paid for nothing in his life.

Speaker 1:

He ain't paid for anything, man. Oh, this is that, mason.

Speaker 2:

Method check, that's that. Tell me what you want from me. Check residual check, that's a f***ing hypnotized check.

Speaker 4:

That's that fucking, that's a hypnotized check. That's that total budget. That's that total budget.

Speaker 2:

This Biggie's record right here.

Speaker 4:

You heard, that's what happened to Sammy. That's what happened to little Sammy.

Speaker 1:

Oh shoot yo. Word. That's ridiculous Because I'm hearing some of the wording from the trial and it's like a lot is going on. The acts are so egregious where she would take semen that a man ejaculated on her and Puff would ask her to wipe it on him. I'm like what the hell is that? I?

Speaker 2:

don't believe that. I don't believe that, I don't believe that. I think that was just too conjugal.

Speaker 1:

You think?

Speaker 3:

she's freestyling I just don't believe it. Listen, I'm not taking Puffer.

Speaker 2:

Don't get me twisted. He's a freak, nasty dude, but some things I just think they had to make it so outrageous.

Speaker 1:

Exactly.

Speaker 2:

Make it believable. My thing with this whole case is where's the crime? Because all I keep hearing about is sexual acts somebody's sex life right yeah, I don't hear about nothing. That's like a rico or anything. That's crazy like I. You got caught with the guns with the serial number scratch door. I was those guns used in any crime yeah, all the crime. You just get caught with legal guns. All right, that's one thing, but I think everybody got illegal guns on the low.

Speaker 3:

But the judge, just the judge just said today like listen, I hear what y'all talking about, but I don't hear nothing about coercion. I don't hear nothing about trafficking. All I'm really hearing this is a judge telling like the feds, like yo where is the trafficking and coercion? Because all we really hearing is HBO and then I'm like what is my thing? Is you got done? First of all, I'm going to say this Gene needs to shut the hell up.

Speaker 1:

Gene deal.

Speaker 3:

You don't talk on every platform about Puff. For the last three years you sat in everybody's couch and said puff did this? Puff did that? He was in court. He went to the court yesterday to ask him are you going? To testify. He said no, I ain't going to say nothing. He done been speaking this long. And then Dawn goes up there and says, oh, I saw him beat Cassie. Okay, cool, you was just on the Love album. How, what are you like? Where are we going with this? Like this is somewhere where we're at.

Speaker 3:

Here's my thing.

Speaker 2:

I'm with you, trav. I agree with you a thousand percent. My thing is we, in this digital era where everybody got cell phones with cameras and video, you mean to tell me none of y'all was able to sneak no footage of him wiling Exactly?

Speaker 4:

None of y'all. Maybe he snagged them phones bro. Shut them doors. Snagged them phones man. Pay you for them. Phones man With all the money he, you suppose celebrities talk about.

Speaker 2:

You mean to tell me y'all can't pay for another phone tucked away, hmm. I'm just saying you pay for that phone.

Speaker 4:

You pay for that phone that had the footage on it. Yo, let me get that.

Speaker 1:

You know, what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Can I add one thing, though Most celebrities usually have two cell phones, two or three, depending on what they, you ain't pulling all three no. I'm saying if you take one, you ain't trying to get multiple angles what I'm saying is if he take one phone you got the back of the phone tucked away.

Speaker 1:

Like what I got this Yo can I add to this, though that was wild.

Speaker 3:

Yo let me say something, though I'm getting this footage.

Speaker 1:

I agree with what Trev, you know all three are saying, because to me I'm not a legal expert, but just listening to the case, it just sounded like a domestic issue, a toxic relationship, where one person felt like they relied on another person to provide a lifestyle for them, where she got tired of it, and that his sex, he has a larger than life sexual appetite he has. He's very creative with his sexual escapades. So that's what it sounds like to me and I believe that he's going to walk. The only thing that is going to happen, only thing that's going to happen to him, is it may tarnish his image, that's it.

Speaker 3:

I don't, you know, I'm going with the two week rule. I'm always go with the two week rule. All right, this is very much so. Entertaining this pup to me is what Ike Turner who else was it? It was Ike Turner that was beating on.

Speaker 1:

Tina.

Speaker 3:

Who else? Who was Ike Turner and who else was another abuser? He's like he's reincarnated. He's Ike Turner and Rick James reincarnated. Rick James literally had chicks locked in the closet sniffing coke for days.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

That's trafficking and coercion. That's sad.

Speaker 3:

That's the truth, though, rick James really had, and he had his kids in the midst of the action before they was even teenage. They wasn't even Justin's age. This is facts.

Speaker 2:

This is Hollywood. This is what they do when you get to a certain point. How many times have we heard about these mansion parties where all this Hugh Hefner, let's keep it all the way above?

Speaker 1:

Yes, pedophile.

Speaker 2:

This is the same thing Hugh Hefner was doing Puff, just thought he was the black Hugh Hefner.

Speaker 3:

No, this is Now. Let's get into it. Let's stay here real quick before we move on, Because the CEO of Abercrombie Fitch got the same exact charges the same exact charges the day Puff's trial started. The same day, they were trying to figure out a way For Abercrombie Fitch's CEO To figure out how he can be Mentally unstable To stand trial for the same Exact thing.

Speaker 1:

Can we keep it real though?

Speaker 3:

We already know what it is.

Speaker 1:

You don't have the complexion For the collection.

Speaker 3:

I got me a little lighter to get to my benefits.

Speaker 1:

Yep, that's all it is.

Speaker 4:

I mean your fit thing. That was kind of in your face too, because how you say it, to even work in this shop you can't have no beard, you can't.

Speaker 3:

You know, you got to look a certain way. I mean you working in the basement on some real like Peter Pan type you gotta wear sandals even if you work in the stockroom and all that.

Speaker 4:

That's crazy over there.

Speaker 3:

Let's not forget, huff was dating Cassie. Now, if you're telling me that I've been sex trafficking my wife, when I take her out of the country, when I took her to Miami for her birthday, then lock me up. But this was her girlfriend. This wasn't no random chick and, of course, if I got the money and I got the funds and the resources, if you got a good box, I'm flying you in.

Speaker 2:

But here's the thing she was sleeping with Puff While she married the new dude Yep.

Speaker 3:

Man listen.

Speaker 2:

So what?

Speaker 4:

So was you really scared For your life, or was you hooked, or was you hooked Cause like, cause like yo. When you think about it, man, if that's, if that's what you want, right, if you want that limelight you've seen enough horror stories of what it takes to get there that's just first things first. So you don't get too many passes Like when you know, god forbid, something terrible happens to you but that's going to happen to you on the road to success if you taking that route, so you're accepting that. So when it now happens, you know I don't think you have too much of a leg to stand on when you speak out about it. And then, furthermore, you waited a long time.

Speaker 4:

Like you waited until this was the flavor of the you know, because this is the flavor of the time. Now, this is how a lot time. Like you waited until this was the flavor of the you know, because this is the flavor of the time. Now, this is how a lot of you know people getting rich, a lot of females getting rich like this. You know what I'm saying. It's the flavor of the nation. So now is the time that you out to speak on it. It just seems weird. And you got 20 million out of it.

Speaker 2:

They thought she got more, though we, everybody probably just telling us 20 ms no, she, that's the truth, but you gotta tell.

Speaker 3:

You gotta tell the truth in court yeah the thing about it.

Speaker 3:

I was reading the whole case since it basically started a lot of the, a lot of the info, because they they definitely ain't televising it. But one of the things she said was when she got to 20, she was like they asked her what did you expect, you know, with the book? So she's like yo, I expected him to read it so he could see what he did. Then they asked her well, how was you going to get him to read the book? Like, how would you send it to him? She said I was sending it to his lawyers. When Puff said I think one of the things was he ignored the whole book and was like whatever that's when the lawsuit came and was like yo, I want this amount of money or I'm putting this out. That's what happened.

Speaker 1:

He ignored her.

Speaker 3:

He was on something. I got a key to the city. The love album is out. I'm about to go on my UK tour After your book. She said okay, you want to play with me? I want $20 million.

Speaker 3:

I want $30 million and settled for $20 million. Right Now, think about this. His first offer was like yo, I'll give you $30 million, I'm talking about to the cost. I'll give you $30 million, I'm talking about to the cost. I'll give you $30 million for bail and I put up a house that's worth $18 million. They said no. He came back and said alright, I throw an extra $20 on top of that $30 and you still get the house. I swear to God, I think he's going to beat this case if you can give away, if you have 80 million like a good 50 million, just to the side, listen, I don't think he's going to be tarnished after this. I think we already know what's up Like people are like get to the trafficking and coercion part so we can really see where we're going with this.

Speaker 2:

Because right now, we already knew he was a freak nasty before this came in.

Speaker 3:

Domestic violence that you see in the Bronx, harlem and New York all day long Girls been screaming. I'd rather cry in a Bentley than a Honda. I'd rather oh, now you know what I'm saying. Now, all of a sudden, he a pedophile, he this, he that, but y'all taking the money.

Speaker 2:

They talking about? Yo, oh, oh, oh, cassie. He wanted dudes to pee. She asked dudes to pee on her Same thing with Carisha. Shorty asked dudes, she said she liked golden showers. People be forgetting. These are the type of chicks that puff like these are the type of chicks that drink like these are the type of chicks that yeah, this is regular freak off. It's called the freak off. What you think is happening at the freak off?

Speaker 4:

Drugs, alcohol and People get peed on.

Speaker 3:

This is a regular Spanish party. This is a regular Spanish birthday party to me. When the kids go to sleep, bring out your beer, Turn the music up. Nah yo yo, Trevor's wild.

Speaker 1:

I want to add to this is that we're all waiting for the rest of this case to be dissected, and all to hear coercion and Rico Message to my brothers out here, man, when you reach a certain Forget being rich. Conduct yourselves out here wise, be smart with what you do. Practice self-restraint.

Speaker 2:

I mean technically he was doing all this behind the scenes. He wasn't out in public with it, so technically he was watching what he was doing.

Speaker 1:

No, of course, but it's just that you never know, because listen man Can't trust him. What doesn't come out in the wash comes out in the rinse. Be mindful of what you do out here man.

Speaker 2:

Every downfall of every black man I'm starting to see in this entertainment business is a female.

Speaker 4:

Hey, you see me shooting for Smokey Like this though. And you see, he's shooting for Smokey, like y'all shooting and hit Smokey, oh, hot Sauce some chick just said the basketball player Hot Sauce raped at 16.

Speaker 2:

Like they got like.

Speaker 4:

Tori Tori. Like who is Hot Sauce? Like I know who Hot Sauce is, but I don't care.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't care about Ray.

Speaker 4:

I don't care about him. No, we're on the same page. We're on the same page.

Speaker 2:

With the whole Diddy and Cassie thing. I just want to get to the real crimes. I don't care If he beat the case. His image is still tarnished. Just go away. You got enough bread to go you. Good you in your 50s, Just chill, Relax.

Speaker 3:

Before we get to the next topic, if you go to somebody's house and in their backyard is a 50-foot bed, what do you expect going on at this house here?

Speaker 1:

Weirdo-like behavior, depending on the individual.

Speaker 3:

That's like going to the Playboy Mansion and not wanting to go to the grotto. I want to see the bed in the backyard. I want to see why you have this big-ass fence and then you got trees covering the fence. I want to see what happens after the kids go to sleep, after you put love to sleep. Turn the music up and let's. I want to see the party.

Speaker 1:

I left the party at 1030.

Speaker 3:

I'm not leaving the party, I'm coming to the party.

Speaker 4:

Yo, what lane I think he take. You brought up a really interesting point. When you say his reputation To be tarnished, there's a really good chance that he beat this case, and we've seen Puff Switch marketing schemes.

Speaker 2:

No, yeah, we've seen.

Speaker 4:

Puff switch marketing schemes. No, yeah, we've seen him beat cases, for sure, but we've seen him change marketing schemes. Actually, we've seen him beat a case and change a marketing scheme all at once with the Sean case and then with Bad Boy for Life. So we've seen. So I'm trying to figure out out. Well, what's the next step? Because he did the gospel thing already, right, so what will you think he does next? I want to see therapy lessons.

Speaker 2:

He's gonna put himself in therapy, redemption in all types of redemption, therapy and and all of that to re-change his whole entire image. He's going to put out the apology thing he's going to stop messing with If he gets free, if he beats this case, he's going to do a whole revamp of who he is. But the thing is, his public business ventures won't be broadcasting like that.

Speaker 4:

No, no, no, those is not going on the front line, no more. I like that game plan you put together, though, cliff, that sound like exactly something Paul for do. Make the therapy kind of public, turn that joint into a reality show, or something like that.

Speaker 2:

He's going to have to start crying, Literally, he's going to have to really start crying. He's going to have to go through an apology tour for all women. He's going to have to the hip-hop thing of Bad Boy. He's going to have to change that whole Bad Boy thing. He's going to have to give that to somebody and they come with some new thing. Come up with good child. Good Girl, Good Girl Records. He's going to have to change everything because it's Tarnished.

Speaker 3:

I don't think it's Tarnished. No, I don't want to say that it's not Tarnished. I think the Bad Boy era really is over. That's over. That's gone. We know that he was already transitioning prior to let's not forget, because he was all love, love, love. It was all about love. He already went there with the transition. What happened?

Speaker 1:

was, you just had hearts bro.

Speaker 3:

What was that what?

Speaker 2:

the fuck.

Speaker 1:

You just had hearts come up to your screen, bro. What kind of magic. Okay, okay, that's a step up right there.

Speaker 3:

Listen, I don't know, but I think what happened was Puff was already in the midst of transitioning, just like he did when he went from Puff to Diddy and all that with the Sean case. What happened was the case got caught up with the whole love triangle literally, so he couldn't transition too quick enough for them to be like nah, love ain't do that, huff did that. You know what I'm saying. So I think now if he reached his case, he literally had to sit down. There can't be no Justin running around, harlem shaking. No Christian. He was from. No, what's up Christian. He was from Harlem, who's sitting there.

Speaker 1:

Mount Vernon.

Speaker 3:

They need to just sit down and really buy an island and name it. Don't even name it Love Island Like redemption. Nah, that's too high.

Speaker 1:

Yo yo. I want to add something real quick Before Shawnee goes right. I want to add something because she's got a message. Let's make this clear, nyp. We're not this panel right here, because I got a message. We do not condone or advocate domestic violence. Some people think, no, we're not advocating. We all have children here. We're not advocating domestic violence. We're not advocating what happened to Cassie was right in any way, in any form or fashion. The only thing that we're saying is different perspective and accountability. Whether you're a victim or the person inflicting the pain, there are two participants. If you sit there and allow somebody to violate you and disrespect you, you're viewed as a willing participant. Yes, I know the psychology of Stockholm syndrome. I feel bad for this person. I'm depending upon them. Whatever internal issues that you may have, you have to work on that. That's not the person's responsibility to help make you feel whole. Ok, cassie, I hope you're doing much better. You're pregnant, you know. Congrats to you and your family, but the evidence shows that you were a willing participant at one point.

Speaker 4:

You understand, so we're sorry about that sell short with somebody you do to get ahead and evil. Like don't do that. Like when you got people that's in show business that will put on makeup and let other people write songs for them and then let other people lip sync the song and then they just be in the video. These is people that you can't just trust. Like that it's a very good brand. Like don't get it twisted. It's a very good brand, just like Nike. You just you know, just like North Face. Great brand. Good that you recognize the brands, that's excellent. But it's always best to look beyond the brand man, especially when it comes to entertainment and entertainers.

Speaker 2:

It's called the entertainment industry, not America's Next Best Talent. I keep telling people this all the time. This is an industry. It's an industry full of snakes. It's an industry full of sharks. It's an industry full of wolves. Women are wolves too, Snakes and sharks in this industry. Don't let them because a man has the money that they can't get attacked by a wolf or a shark. That's a female.

Speaker 1:

Talk about it.

Speaker 3:

Now let me ask you something. If Cassie was white. How do you think this case would go before we?

Speaker 2:

If she was white, she would have came up with her money and moved out the way. Yeah, this would have been awful.

Speaker 3:

This wouldn't even went to trial At all. It wouldn't even went to trial, you would have gave $150,000.

Speaker 2:

I feel like they're doing this to all of our Black entertainers at this point. I'm not saying our Black entertainers are innocent, I'm not saying they are. I'm saying that we get the biggest headlines, of course. Of course we tear each other down on Front Street instead of ripping, tearing each other up behind closed doors Like we supposed to be jeep. Checking each other behind closed doors Like nah, I'm not allowed to be shorty up in front of me dog. Like I don't care, like whatever y'all do when I'm not around, ain't my business. But while I'm in the public and you standing right here, you got stories talking about he's smacking up in public. They would smack no female up in front of me.

Speaker 1:

Exactly.

Speaker 2:

Like that's not happening. We're going to have beef. I don't care how much power you got in this industry. That right there is a violation, because what if that's your mom's dog that I'm smacking up?

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

Or your daughter or something. Or your daughter or something. Right, you get what I'm saying Mm-hmm, Mm-hmm. Exactly when the men at? The men I ain't talking about the dudes with bread, because that don't make you a man. Where's the men at? That's like. Nah, we ain't doing that.

Speaker 4:

Not that we was just talking about that, though, like, that's not a part of that. Morality is the desk. I think that's the major lesson in this right morality is not a part of the limelight and, in fact, morality may be the darkness surrounding the limelight. You know, I'm saying it's a fact and then, and then it's like, you know, if people tend to back this person, to back that person when they all wrong, how about that? Like, how about that, you know?

Speaker 2:

I feel like security Should be on trial. The maids that stood around Should be on trial. The person who went to go get the liquor and the drugs Should be on trial. Her friends that talked to Inda going back If she had any friends that talked to her going back Should be on trial.

Speaker 1:

All of y'all should be on trial Her friends that talked to Inda going back. If she had any friends that talked to her going back, she'd be on trial as well.

Speaker 2:

All of y'all should be on trial, because y'all create, all of y'all help create this monster.

Speaker 4:

Create this situation. A lot of silence, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Because it wouldn't happen if nobody agreed to it. Like we're not doing that If nobody agreed to it. Like we're not doing that if people was, if the morality was like I don't care if I'm your maid or your servant or this, you can fire me all you want.

Speaker 4:

I'm not doing that because the moment you allow this to happen, you're creating the monster. I'm gonna be real with you a lot, a lot of those high-end hotels they have like immigrants for, like you know, maids and so on and so forth barely speak english. They're not saying nothing. Bro, um, yo, I worked there, I worked at hotel one in brooklyn, right, and um, they, you know, they have like a revolving door of people in that situation and they have to work 12, 13, 14 hours a day, right, and if you miss a day, then that's it, they'll put somebody else right in that spot. Then you just world up, then you just out of the spot. So in certain people, in certain situations, I understand it's gonna keep their mouth shut. But then there's other people in other situations that's like, yeah, you, you probably could have stood on one foot you know what I'm saying, could have stood on one leg and said something no, but then again, you know, bought that footage out of that, out of that hotel, didn't?

Speaker 4:

he wasn't that? Wasn't that one of the things? So maybe somebody did, was gonna say something, and then he bought the footage, like from underneath that person, like nah, that's a dub but yo let me say this oh god, no, no, brother, go on.

Speaker 3:

Also this was a fact that one of the police officers that came and investigated I guess when she had, when we went during the hallway incident. They called police, she said and a police officer came. They called police, she said, and a police officer came and what he did was when he saw the footage, he taped it on his phone, he recorded it while they was looking at it on his phone and showed it to his wife, Like so it was already out prior to Puff, even really knowing that. You know it was a public thing. I didn't know that either.

Speaker 2:

I've heard stories of Puff beating on women since the Uptown Record days.

Speaker 3:

I heard Puff beating on.

Speaker 1:

Perfect segue into the next topic, the bad boy history, Puff beat he get busy.

Speaker 3:

Anyway, you saw what he was going to do to Homeboy from Power on Halloween. Yeah, we forgot about that one. Like Puck, don't be. You're slapping the shit out of Drake. You're fighting J Cole. He don't play. They say he get busy.

Speaker 4:

Hey, you know what you know what you know what your man Al B Shaw he been touring Yo. You know what you know, what you know what Yo I, your man Al B Shaw, he been touring the news.

Speaker 3:

His mom just passed away too, God bless, God bless.

Speaker 2:

Rest in peace to his mother.

Speaker 4:

I mean, like been a condolence he been running around and he was saying and it's made me think about how he lost his family to Puff. Right, it's made me think about how he lost his family to Puff, right, it's made me think about that. We see how much of a villain Puff is. If he wanted, he'd find a way to get it. And, um, he took that man's family. Then that man ended up in a coma.

Speaker 3:

That man said he put him in a coma yes, I think it's more to that, though, because I think Albus Shaw had her first because he was the light skin. He was that dude then, right.

Speaker 3:

And unfortunately, his life dimmed right and I think when Puff became Puff, when he became Puff Daddy, when he was doing the remixes with Jodeci and Mary, that's when Puff became that dude and I think at the time, if I'm not mistaken, puff and Kim were still young, so I don't think he took her specifically from him, purposely, from Al Bishoff, I think it just happened. And then I think Puff really cared about her and she cared about him, because there's no way that you have, let's just say, christian, you got the twins and she's always been.

Speaker 4:

I don't know man, we see how dangerous I mean.

Speaker 2:

Misa was dead in Alpo before he died, so we don't know the type of shit she really is.

Speaker 4:

We know how dangerous a man can be. She often warns him about him too. You know what I'm saying. Like yo stay away. You know, there's things that you know that kind of like. To me it's like you know, if you're looking at it on the long haul, if you take a step back and look at it On the long haul, if you take a step back and look at it, maybe a history of this right, I wouldn't say that she's the first. You don't just go all out like that on one person.

Speaker 1:

Exactly.

Speaker 4:

So I'm just saying like there's a history of that. There's a history of him saying I want that woman and him eliminating the competition. There's a history of that too.

Speaker 1:

That's a fact. I heard about that too, yeah.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, there's a history of these things. So like I'm not you know I'm not trying to be a bit of a conspirator, you know I'm not trying to, you know, but I just just looking at it I can see a history of that, but there's no history of trafficking in all that histo from what I see.

Speaker 2:

I don't see traffic in all right racketeering. I don't see none. I don't see none of it, I just see I don't see none of it but all it is a bunch of control.

Speaker 3:

He's, he's just over, he has a.

Speaker 2:

He's just a controlling person he's a bad boy, he got a resource as we know, because I'm gonna juggle to them. Spit my segue into the history of bad boy as we know. Let's, I'm going to juggle them today. I'm going to spit my segway into the history of Bad Boy. As we know, puff was wild when he was in Howard.

Speaker 3:

He sure was.

Speaker 2:

He was wild when he was in Howard. Since we get into the history of Bad Boy. He was wild when he was in Howard when he linked up with my man, andre Harrell a real Harlem native Not on that play for you A real Harlem Native who don't have Uptown Records with Heavy D. I want to fucking get it. They never like to give Heavy D his credit for basically co-starting Uptown with Andre Harrell. Puff was an intern, traveling back and forth from Howard to New York you know what I'm saying Making his rounds, like Shawnee said, when he was doing all those remixes and making things hot. He really got his burn when he finally got Mary J Blige to pop pop crazy hot. He really got his burn when he finally, you know, got Mary J Blige to pop pop crazy, because he was really when he was doing that intern or Uptown, he was still doing background videos, background dancing videos for Stacey Latisor.

Speaker 1:

We forgot about Dougie Fresh.

Speaker 2:

Dougie Fresh, Stacey Latisor. He was basically an intern for Jodeci. He really didn't do much for Jodeci.

Speaker 4:

He dressed Jodeci or something like that Real quick, they dressed like him.

Speaker 3:

Puff was the one dressing with the big clothes, with the boots.

Speaker 4:

Hey, because he dressed like him. I want them to dress like how you dress right now with the boots.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, because he dressed like somebody said that Right and they said I want them to dress like how you dress right now. And it just so happened, it kicked the mold. Boys to men too. Dressed boys to men too. Oh, and let's not forget about OutKast.

Speaker 2:

I thought someone was doing that with Boyz II Men, michael Bivens and them.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I thought Michael Bivens was in that Puff dressed boys to me and that at least in Motown, philly, that's Puff's doing and that's like they most famous joint. You know what I'm saying, you asked me at least from that time.

Speaker 3:

Puff had a hand in OutKast too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, for sure, I've been playing listening to Cadillac music.

Speaker 3:

That video when Andre had the, he had the jersey and he In one part of the video he was shirtless. That part that was Puff he had a hand in.

Speaker 2:

TLC too. Of course he had a hand in TLC too, but you know that's never told.

Speaker 3:

Oh, real quick Let me say this While we're on the history of Bad Boy, my fourth clip. But if you watch Martin, the Devon L Hill episode with Jodeci on it, Huff is in that, In the crowd he's in the crowd when Martin is going hysterical with the laughing and shit Puff is in that scene. You got to look real closely. But Puff is in that scene Because he was, I guess he was. You know he probably was a road manager or babysitter for Joe.

Speaker 2:

Puff took all the elements from Uptown to create a bad boy right, so he took to me. I feel like he took a little bit of his swag from Father MC.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. He just made a little street. He just added the street to Bad.

Speaker 2:

Boy, a little bit more extra street to it. But I feel like a lot of his swag was Father MC Mary J Blige was basically it wasn't his artist, but it was his artist, right, like he basically molded Mary to be what Mary was, jodeci, when you do the counterparts. So when he got bad boy, when he got fired from Andre Harrell for being too much or being extra, as Puff is, biggie was an uptown artist. Sure was Right, he was an uptown artist. He was a bad boy artist. He was an uptown artist. Sure was Right, he was an uptown bad boy artist.

Speaker 2:

He was an uptown artist Because when he signed Biggie, he signed Biggie to Uptown.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that super cat video.

Speaker 2:

So when he finally got his situation with Clive Davis another one of these supposed you know people who taught Puff this whole freak-off thing from what the word is right I'm not going to say it's true because I don't know Clive Davis personally, but that's what the word is. First artist was Craig Mack, right. Biggie was the second artist. Biggie was the first artist, but Craig Mack was the first real artist legit signed to Bad Boy right. The only reason why Craig Mack was the first real artist legit signed to Bad Boy right. The only reason why Craig Mack ain't really get another album, was because him and Big was beefing and Big was the hot artist and they were trading shots.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, a lot of shots, right, you know Puff discovered the hitman with D-Dot, the rest of them and Arne Rivera and Lance Arne Rivera, um, a bunch of them, um. And then you know, he started putting out artists Craig Mack, biggie, total. He followed the exact blueprint of Uptown Records. It was just the newer version of it, right, because Jodeci was kind of like they were still popping, but they was fading. Blueprint of Uptown Records it was just the newer version of it, right, because Jodeci was kind of like they were still popping, but they was fading Because of whatever you know, they had drug issues and all of that, so they was fading. Mary was doing her own thing, but you've already seen her with Pops, so we already consider her somewhat like a bad boy artist as well. Anyway, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Right Faith was there in the background the whole time. He was doing background vocals on all these Mary albums that nobody wants to talk about.

Speaker 1:

They had the same similar style. They do.

Speaker 2:

Similar styles. Faith was there the whole time. Then he found the girl group. If you look at Total, it was the female Jodeci. They were doing the look as far as the look. They basically no, no, no, Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Exactly, they did have it.

Speaker 2:

Right Big was the franchise player of the label right Until Mase. Until that boy Mase got signed and he was a threat to bid Because a lot of people don't know Mo Money, mo Problems was a Mase record.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you can tell the sound and everything.

Speaker 2:

It was a Mase record. Mase came on the scene Granted, I'm not going to take nothing away from Biggie and say Mase was a better rapper than Biggie or nothing like that, but let's be real when Mase hit the scene with the 112 remix that was it.

Speaker 1:

He was out of it. Come if you want to Come if you want to.

Speaker 4:

With the Vansons.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, then he did the Kissing you remix. Then he wrote all these records on no Way Out Been around the world. And aye, aye, aye, you know what I'm saying. He wrote this. It was Mason and Lox, right, so Jadon just wrote Puff's Victory Verse.

Speaker 3:

He wrote Benjamin's. Yeah, he wrote the Benjamin's.

Speaker 4:

I thought Cam wrote the Benjamin's.

Speaker 3:

No, Cam wrote the.

Speaker 2:

Benjamins no, cam wrote a little season of Cam record.

Speaker 4:

I know that part, but Cam is claiming credit for the.

Speaker 2:

He wrote some other songs, but he ain't writing nothing on no Way Out.

Speaker 3:

See, you got to understand that Puff was. You know, while we're adding to the history of bad boy, you got to understand this puff was more a visionary than anything, because did what he added to like when you look at uptown records? Right, it was, they wasn't going to go. But so far Puff was that person who looked at Bad Boy and added the street element to it. Right, yes, he did. He added the high-end fashion to hip-hop. You know what I'm saying? Because Andre Hiller was fly, but Andre Hiller was like dapper, damn fly. But Andre Herrera was like that, but damn fly. Puff went and just skyrocketed because he gave people a look and made you want to say I want to look like that. You know what I'm saying. So when he went from the baggy jeans with the boots, with Jodeci, then you go into the Vansons with Mace, you go clean. You took a Brooklyn dude, remember, big with Supercat had a bandana over his eyes and a hockey jersey. He went from that to a Versace shirt and silk pants and wingtip shoes.

Speaker 3:

You take a drug dealer hard to roll. Nicky Barnes your pops. You add that to music. Puff was a different type of dude when it came to fashion. He told you how to make the beat.

Speaker 2:

The blueprint that wasn't on most hip-hop labels at the time. He had a production team similar to Motown. We got a team of in-house producers that's making all of our hits. We're not going to go grab a Timberland. We're not going to go grab this. I got all of the hitmen here.

Speaker 3:

Matter of fact, all that, like you said, started in Howard, because D-Dot went to Howard, exactly, and D-Dot didn't go to. He went to Howard for like engineering, like scientific engineering, some wild something. You'd be like what I thought you was just a regular, not D you know what I'm saying. So all that started, and then let's not forget the off-branch of Cole, from Martin Cole, from. Martin is also a party promoter who started at Howard. Him and Puff would go back and forth with who got the best parties. So that's just awful.

Speaker 2:

Bad Boy was all a Howard connection from all those kids, all those kids at that time that was in Howard, that was linked up together. They was all from New York.

Speaker 3:

Yep.

Speaker 2:

And they just made it happen.

Speaker 3:

Yep and public all this with no money, said yo, I'm about to do this in a hallway and said who wants to be down? Biggie got a $60,000 check fam.

Speaker 2:

That was the check to sign the bad boy $60,000. That was it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, $60,000. He got signed $60,000.

Speaker 3:

That was like a million in 93, though.

Speaker 1:

But you see, how you said, that's the history of bad boy from Howard University and dealing with Uptown. He was making his connections and he was a party promoter too as well. Remember that situation that took place at City University, city College.

Speaker 3:

They tried to blame that on him and it really wasn't him. That was more or less to the people who got attendees, that was trying to get in and it was overcapacity.

Speaker 1:

And one fact to add for you, Trev when you saw Big with that hockey jersey abandoned over the eyes, that was when he was rolling with Thug Life. He was supposed to be part of Thug Life, but that's another story. Right there, Am I correct?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I know that.

Speaker 3:

I know that one. Yeah, biggie was supposed to be Biggie. Just look at what Big did. Look at how Puff created that Like. Puff made him confident, like fat, black and ugly. However, stay coogee down, coogee down to the socks. You made him a confident man. You know what I'm saying? We're going to throw some Versace shirts on you.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to keep it a buck.

Speaker 3:

I think Puff didn't like Pac because Pac was in Big's ear, mm-hmm. True, I think a lot of chicks love Pop though, and that's another thing when you're dealing with ego. And, to be fair, huff wasn't a looker back then for us. You know he didn't have that swag he was skinny with the big teeth Right.

Speaker 3:

Pop chicks loved him, ghetto smart. He was so skinny with the big teeth, right, pac Chicks loved him, ghetto smart. What was it? He a poet. They loved Pac Like he was here. You couldn't walk in a room if Chicks wasn't on him. That's how you know. That's how Pac was. And I think out of everybody, puff was jealous of Pac. You know, I don't think he was jealous of no, albie Shaw, none of them. But I think when it came to Pac, especially when Pac went out to LA and he got the California love and they were just on him. And you know I met the girl that they said Pac raped her. I met her because my man used to date her from Brooklyn and.

Speaker 3:

Pac can't do no shit like that. He had so much where he had so much respect for women. You just know, you know.

Speaker 2:

So that's a piece of Pac she from Brooklyn, so she was the toy. Well, she was the chick that was used by, you know, hen. So that's the pizza pot. You know, that's just the way it is. She from Brooklyn, so she was the toy. Well, she was the chick that was used by, you know, henchmen and all of them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, of course she was a group, she was a. Whatever was going on with her, you know, God bless her.

Speaker 2:

She was the set you up chick. Yeah, she was a wolf.

Speaker 1:

She was running with wolves. Exactly so with the history of Bad Boy. You said that you know where Puff got his start from Uptown Records when he got that big check. Was it Clyde Davis that gave him that big check from Arister? Yes, it was from Arister. It was like 70 mil, he said.

Speaker 2:

Something crazy and he only gave Big $60,000.

Speaker 1:

Yeah damn, talk about robbery, bro. Talk about robbery bro Talk about robbery. Talk about robbery.

Speaker 2:

He gave every artist on the label the wild small check, quiet as kept and kept their royalties.

Speaker 1:

Wasn't Black Rob there? I believe Black Rob was there right after Biggie right.

Speaker 2:

Black Rob was there for a while, but Black Rob was still in and out the streets. He was still doing robberies.

Speaker 3:

But you know Rob said it himself that right before he passed he said yo, puff treated him well. He said yo before when he basically was disappearing and we didn't know where Black Rob was at and we realized he was sick. Rob was like yo every time I asked for money. You know Puff sent it Probably because it was like yo every time I asked for money. You know Puff sent it Probably because it was his. But Rob did say that when he needed money he had half-court. Puff like yo, I need money for this. This is the medical bills. Puff sent it like without a problem.

Speaker 2:

I believe that, but of course you're going to send it. You're still collecting royalties off of me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, off whoa, all right. So being that, you know we're pressed for time right before we go any further, because we got to do this bad boy history part, so we got to go really deep on that, yeah, I'm going to go deep into that let's talk about what's yo the Brooklyn Bridge situation. Did you guys hear?

Speaker 2:

about that. I blame that on the on the people that own the boat I'm not blaming supposed to know the length of pause, you supposed to know the height and length of that of those things on the boat when you, when you, when you going under the brooklyn bridge? To begin with, that's a given. That's like trucks, when trucks is driving on the road yeah, you gotta clear that'd be on these overpass. They're there for a reason. A truck of a certain height can't go under those.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but I think they said that boat lost power, so that's why he wasn't able to turn. That's why he hit the Brooklyn Bridge and then hit the bystanders on under the bridge, because he lost power. Unfortunately, two people died, rest in peace, and others were injured. First of all, you couldn't get me to climb all the way at the top. That's number one. That's number one, yo, I made it.

Speaker 4:

Y'all do that.

Speaker 3:

I'll be here, matter of fact, I'm going to get the garbage. I'm going to get the garbage Number one, who sleeps in?

Speaker 2:

this boat. I'm gonna get you guys number one. I'm not. I mean, I've been on boats, we've all done it we all did the boat parties in New York.

Speaker 1:

I never did that, I'm sorry you never did the boat parties in the city.

Speaker 3:

I don't listen. Let me tell you something I ain't going on. No boats, man, nah, never, I'm not cruising. Let me tell you something I ain't going on.

Speaker 1:

No boat man.

Speaker 3:

Ain't even cruising? Nah, never, I'm not cruising Atlantic Ocean. Get me off. I'm going to be honest with you. I need to get off. I need to walk on some grass, some land, some concrete. You're not just going to have me sailing. Nah, I'm good, I'm good, I don't. Nah, I'm good.

Speaker 2:

Cruisers. You'll be all right. This ain't the Titanic days. You'll be all right on the cruise I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Not Carnival Cruise, not Carnival Cruise.

Speaker 2:

Nowadays they got all that Like they really be not trying to Nah, I believe you.

Speaker 3:

I believe you. No, nah, nah.

Speaker 4:

Nah man. No, it was like the Mexican Navy, it's like a Mexican.

Speaker 1:

Navy seat.

Speaker 4:

Navy boat Like a pirate ship though. Where y'all going? Who y'all going to fight Long?

Speaker 1:

John.

Speaker 4:

Silver. What's that about? When I seen it? I'm like yo. I was over here after this.

Speaker 1:

Long John Silver. What's that about? That was wild when I seen it. I'm like yo.

Speaker 3:

I was over here after the ice. Ice is looking for y'all. Y'all sit here just on the boat.

Speaker 4:

He went wow. They said we in the water, you can't. The laws are not applicable in the water.

Speaker 2:

First off, New York is chaos. Yo, it's always chaos in New York, for no reason too. You know why it's chaos in New York it's too many people here. Yo, it's too many.

Speaker 4:

Yo I was watching a video Yo people with yo. I ain't gonna lie, that's a scary situation because you know people just be down there chilling. That's beautiful down there now.

Speaker 2:

It is.

Speaker 4:

It's beautiful. That park is lovely. They got the Luke's Lobster down there. They got the carousel for the babies. It's beautiful down there. You just got folk just enjoying their day. And then here come this shit Yo that's crazy yo. You like is this my day Like is this really? Like that's New York.

Speaker 2:

That's what I'm saying. Yeah, it is yo.

Speaker 4:

That's the town.

Speaker 3:

And then the.

Speaker 4:

Thing is like like Cliff, I'm all the way with you on that, though, right, because it's like how you ain't know the height requirement, like what's.

Speaker 1:

Like what's really going on here, bro. I think they were just partying, I think they were just twisted.

Speaker 2:

I think they were, but technically there's regulations in the water Of where we at Regulations that's supposed to automatically Before this boat even dock off. This is too tall.

Speaker 4:

That's supposed to be investigated. Y'all gotta go the way y'all came. Y'all gotta go back past the Statue of Liberty. Y'all gotta go back up that way. He's trying to cut corners. I ain't doing all that back past the Statue of Liberty.

Speaker 1:

Y'all got to go back up that way, bro. Where was y'all Trying to cut corners? I ain't doing all that.

Speaker 2:

The Brooklyn Bridge ain't as high as the GWB, so that's number one. You can't do that. That don't make sense.

Speaker 4:

And the Brooklyn Bridge is one of the oldest structures we have in our city bro, you cannot be running into her like that bro, you know what I mean. People die making her bro. You can't just be running into her like you don't care which one. Y'all need to take that back to where I said they from again, when they, where they Mexico. Yeah, they gotta go back, bro. They gotta take that back. They gotta take that shit back. But what was it even doing?

Speaker 4:

that's my question it was like no, bro, it's a naval ship. It's a naval ship where were they headed? What was you doing on pier 26?

Speaker 3:

that's what happens. That's what happens when you show off and you trip or you yell it to the bus and you miss your step. That's all that happened. Y'all was showing off. You thought you couldn't get caught. Rest in peace to the people who died. But for the people who got hurt, you shouldn't have been showing off. I told you, if you do that, you're going to fall. And what happened? You bust your ass.

Speaker 1:

You know what? With that being said, we're about to be out Shouts to my Mexican people. Man, Rest in peace to those two that lost their lives.

Speaker 2:

Rest in peace to them.

Speaker 1:

bro, Check that captain out. There we go with them hearts again B you know what?

Speaker 4:

I'm saying Do the thumbs up Joy, Do that real quick. It's the other hand. It.

Speaker 1:

Do that real quick.

Speaker 4:

I don't know it's the other hand, I don't know it's not working on mine. See, there it go, there it go. He got it with his right hand.

Speaker 3:

And all that, yo no more hard, do that?

Speaker 1:

That's that ditty on the courtroom. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4:

The return of brother love. Oh ayo, that was ice cold yo when he hit a nine, when he hit her with the.

Speaker 1:

You seen that In the courtroom With the heart in the courtroom.

Speaker 3:

That was ice cold bro but let me say this Kid Cudi's supposed to come down and hit the fan I want to know what he going to say, because I just want to know what he going to say, because I just want to know what type of car got blown up. They said that see, cassie spoke about the car being blown up, but she didn't necessarily say he did it. The car was blown up, but she didn't say the car did it.

Speaker 2:

He mentioned it on that play album. If you go back and listen to the play album, listen to the last night. At the end of the record where he talking on the phone, he said yeah, fucker, I made me blow homeboy car up.

Speaker 4:

He sent him a direct shot yeah.

Speaker 3:

I know what off the grid means.

Speaker 2:

Let me tell you something he was trying to get out the way. No, what off the grid means? Let me tell you something he was trying to get off the grid. He was trying to get out the way.

Speaker 3:

No, this off the grid means cut your phones off and we're coming to the backyard where the bet is at.

Speaker 1:

We off the grid, yo, we out on that one. With that being said, thank you, my brothers.

Speaker 3:

Shout out to the Knicks, charlie, I know your team. You should have worn Nick's hat. I know a team with the last name with the word city is going to be in the championship, so shout out to the Knicks. I bought a bunch of Nick hats.

Speaker 4:

Minnesota up by three right now. So we're going to see Yo, that's going to be a dog of a series right now.

Speaker 2:

I don't got a horse in that race, nah, I don't got a horse in that race.

Speaker 4:

It's going to be a dog of a series right now. I don't got a horse in that race.

Speaker 2:

Nah, I don't got a horse in that race. It's going to be a dog of a series with the Knicks and the Pacers too.

Speaker 4:

Yeah it is Nah, nah, nah, For real it is. Ayo, your man, just let me get my little sports joint off real quick. You know, your man, Halliburton sitting homeboy tickets right. He gave him his, you know, because Halliburton's dad got into that, you know face-off with Giannis.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, so he got you know an honorable being is what I want to call it. So Hallie gave that kid his ticket. It's like yo, you know you come out. You know what I'm saying. They're going to show him love or whatever. Whatever, I think that's cool. You know what I'm saying. I think that's cool, but I think it's going to get a little grittier. I even told my homie my homie been a lifetime Pacer fan. I told him yo, you be careful out there wearing that Pacers hat. Yo yeah, bro, don't come to the city with that, don't come out there. Yo, yeah, stay. And he out by Edenwood Styles what up bro?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, you good out there Manhattan 34th Street, all of that, all that, dead bro, you don't got that blue and orange on you. Come down there with that blue and gold.

Speaker 1:

Yo, you're going to go back home stripped bro, and I'm real talking serious this year, man.

Speaker 4:

Listen, we beating up Boston fans, beating up Boston fans, word up, it's getting back to the 90s, man, yeah, yo, but Boston was beating us up too out there. So now you're taking it out on Indiana Pacer fans. It's just like that, that's all.

Speaker 3:

But then I got this yeah.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, but I got this. I got this behind me, I got this behind me.

Speaker 2:

I got Terry.

Speaker 4:

Harper. Oh man, listen, man, listen, man, I got Terry Harper back there versus Natalie Zimmerman, man, listen, cross-seas things is a little bit different, man. They the headline, that's the headline, they the headline.

Speaker 3:

Terry.

Speaker 4:

Harper is the champ. You understand, terry, harper been the champ in three different weight classes, okay, you know, oh, super fire, and so this is. This fight is in her hometown, in the football stadium out there. It's so loud it's gonna be.

Speaker 4:

It's gonna be a wash, though, because um that's gonna be a wash, because if you see natalie zimmerman, know the blonde hair over here. If you look at her she don't look like she's 42 years old but she every bit of it, and still boxing. I think female athletes are kind of amazing, bro. She started about eight years ago when she was 32. No, 10 years ago she was 32. She's 42 years old. She in that ring Going hard too. She there to hit and get hit. She not there to be evasive, she there to hit and get hit. On the other hand, terry Harper is just there to hit, like she's just there to hit the hand. Speed is tremendous, the accuracy is Stupendous, the stamina is all the way. You're 99, she's the champ. Um, yeah, that's that's this. Her fight to win in her hometown is something she says she always wanted since she started her career. So I'm very happy for terry harper, the other two individuals on this car. This is it's mad fights on this car.

Speaker 1:

But I should look like beyonce mungs a little bit I'm like tina about the fight.

Speaker 4:

I'm saying a little bit. You know I'm saying then we got, we got my man, maxie hughes, over this way and then we got archie sharp over this way and that's gonna be a dog fight. Um, it's gonna be a dog fight. I think archie is gonna come trying to look good and trying to be evasive and bounce from corner to corner like he normally does, and maxie hughes gonna wait on him and wait on him and wait on him and catch him slipping when he's tired. This is uh, uh. This is uh, archie sharp's first 12 rounder. I'm not too positive if he's going to know how to maintain his stamina Because, like I said, he likes to use a lot of stamina. He likes the first five rounds. He's running from corner to corner, bouncing from side to side.

Speaker 4:

Maxie, this is maybe like his 12th, maybe like his fourth 12th rounder. So he's conditioned. He's had the experience. He's also had the big fights. He's got the big fights under his belt. He got robbed in the George Camposa fight. William Zepeda beat the absolute dog nonsense out of him. No, I'm not going to lie about it. They got him out of there in four rounds. But this is a different situation. This is if you're listening and you're trying to get on the bulk man. You might want to find something with Terry Harper and Maxie Hughes. You might want to look at maybe an Ove on the Terry Harper fight and maybe a point to the Hughes fight. Take the Hughes on Moneyline, something like that. Maybe take Terry Harper on the points Should be free money. Man Should be free money. Man should be free money.

Speaker 1:

I meet you at the window next tuesday looking, looking at that, my brothers, yo, we got to come back with that. And yeah, both you know I'm saying you gotta come out with some more bad boy history. Oh, I'm gonna give you some more 20 oh yeah, oh yeah, clip was coming back with the sports and trev you gotta come back. No more swiss cakes, man, trev, you got to come back.

Speaker 4:

No more Swiss cakes, man. All right, yo, you got to come back with the hearts and the thumbs up Need a chocolate dongle.

Speaker 1:

Need a thing in the middle. All right, we're going to Grace Papaya next week, all right?

Speaker 4:

Trev, yo Trev going to come back with a middle finger joint, Should I?

Speaker 3:

keep playing with him. I don't know how this happened. To be honest with you, we're going to get some Grace Papaya next time. That's what you want to ask for. Yeah, that's the iPhone Salad pie and mustard on my glizzy paws.

Speaker 1:

All right, All right. All right then, brothers Peace. Yeah, we out. All right, peace AYP.