Crip Jesus - Crip Culture & Blu- Tang

Ever wondered what's beneath the surface of America's gang culture? This explosive conversation with Crip Jesus, author of the Blue Bible, peels back decades of misinformation to reveal how government infiltration transformed revolutionary community movements into deadly street rivalries.Crip Jesus drops bombshell revelations about the true origins of Crip culture, tracing its lineage directly to the Black Panthers through Bunchy Carter's influence in Los Angeles. Contrary to popular mythology, "Crip" originally stood for "Community Revolutionary Interparty Services" according to founding member Danifu Kareem Bey—not the commonly recited "Community Revolution In Progress." This distinction matters because it points to how deliberate government programs like COINTELPRO and the Ghetto Informant Program corrupted what began as neighborhood protection efforts.The most disturbing insights come when Crip Jesus connects the dots between seemingly unrelated historical events: how the murder of Bunchy Carter created a power vacuum in LA; how prison isolations ironically facilitated knowledge transfer between revolutionary Black Guerrilla Family members and gang members; and how a 1991 meeting between prison officials and music executives led to hip-hop becoming a programming tool that standardized gang behavior nationwide.But this isn't just history—it's a warning about how cultural movements are still being manipulated today. Crip Jesus's Blue-Tang project (dropping July 11) represents his effort to reclaim authentic storytelling through what he calls "high vibrational hip-hop." Whether you're interested in American history, hip-hop culture, or understanding community dynamics, this conversation will forever change how you see the relationship between music, government influence, and street organizations.

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Speaker 1: 0:10

all right, peace. What's going on? Everybody? It's ron brown lmt, the people's fitness professional, and soon we'll be the people's champs. We keep that on the low, though, but yo, but yo, maggie Fever in the building. What's going on, maggie?

Speaker 2: 0:29

Yo Crip Jesus, I got something for you, man Well really. Crip, Jesus right, she sells seashells by the seashell. It's time to see some more. Yo what's good?

Speaker 3: 0:41

Remember that, Hell yeah you know about that Time to see some more what's good?

Speaker 2: 0:44

Remember that CJ Mack Hell, yeah, you know about that.

Speaker 1: 0:54

Yo, so I want to build on. I mean, the last time we spoke, man, the way you were kind of like building upon the Crip I call it Crip culture I thought if I put it out there like that you would be like I don't know if it's a culture, because of the way you were talking, saying on the last podcast, the way you were I don't want to say you were kind of like you were. You were kind of trying to not advocate for Crippen.

Speaker 3: 1:20

Well, my thing is, my name is Crip Jesus and I think a lot of people get so wrapped up in this white jesus version they forget the actual story. Remember, in the story he was telling his people like bro, y'all messing up, it's gonna be over. Like, if y'all don't get right, it's gonna be a rap for y'all, like, straight up, like, and they killed, they wanted to kill him because of it. You know I'm saying so. This whole thing, like my name, represents some type of glamorization. The Crip is crazy and I'm so glad we're here to clear that up. You know I mean, I represent, especially coming from the guy perspective. You know saying the nation. I'm bringing the truth, I'm being a grave digger. You know what I'm saying. This is the Crips. A Crip is where a tomb is placed. You know what I'm saying. Like I say page 80 of the Blue Bible. Etymologically, forget what you say. It mean, like somebody told me it stands for this. No, etymologically the sound of it Crypt. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2: 2:10

That's used for the crypt, you get what.

Speaker 3: 2:11

I'm saying it tells from the crypt that's used for the dead bro.

Speaker 2: 2:14

So Hold on, I see what he's dropping.

Speaker 1: 2:20

It ain't even two minutes. It's two minutes, bro, you're dropping signs.

Speaker 2: 2:23

Man Yo Chugga. We coming to the West man. Ron and I are going to take a flight out there. We're going to come chill. Oh, let's get it, man. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1: 2:30

For sure, for sure we have to. So now, Lord knows. Ok, I don't know what that comment's about, but it straight from PA. That's what's up, pa in the building. Live out there.

Speaker 2: 2:47

What up PA? Shout out to Allentown, shout out to Redding, shout out to Philly.

Speaker 1: 2:51

Word. So now let's go into it. So now crip culture. Right, when I put that out there and I say that, what comes to mind for you?

Speaker 3: 3:14

For me, like just the science I deal with, is the fact that I know with fellow builders it may be like you know, let's be antagonistic and say Crip, it's not a culture and it's a death style. But me, I look at it scientifically and if we look at mathematically, culture composes of the elements coat and then the chair on there as a the elements coat and then the chur on there as a forgot, what that's called. But you know, you add on to the word like the suffix or whatever. So if the root word of his coat, you feel I'm saying uh. And if you look at the, even the history of how it works, the big homie and raymond washington, and it's like a cult following, right, so, uh, the crip culture. There is a crip culture.

Speaker 3: 3:45

Now the problem is that the way of life in today's mathematics is culture. So that's, you know, it's worth buying. So the way of life being lived by the crips, the brain dead, is not the culture that crip was founded on. And I'll prove it to you, the most popular thing for conscious community, or even the guys, to say about Crip, they like to break it down and say community revolution and progress. And I'm here to let everybody know that's not what it stands for. Okay, okay, hold on. So that goes to show the brain deadness here, right?

Speaker 1: 4:20

Okay Now can you explain that, Because people have been saying that for years.

Speaker 3: 4:24

For years, for years. Biggest argument. So page eight, blue Bible I'll break down Was that page seven? I'll break down how. I believe it meant that too, and I learned that from my father. All right, so you can tell me that wasn't true, right? My dad told me y'all don't even know what the hell that shit mean it. My dad told me y'all don't even know what the hell that shit mean. It mean community revolution, progress.

Speaker 3: 4:47

Old man born in 61. But my father was born in 61. That means when they made that he was eight years old. So he don't know everything. He's even a generation behind them. That's how deep this goes. Raymond Washington was already 16, 17, 18 when he was eight. You dig what I'm saying. So even he's going secondhand. Not saying he's wrong, but I'm gonna just show you what I mean. He got that next generation. That was the next generation. But this is what happened. Crip originally did not even mean an acronym. There was no breakdown to it. According to now, I wasn't there, but according to danifu kareem bay notice the name of the land that don't sound like a crip name, right? So this is a moorish science chic. Who was name of the land? That don't sound like a Crip name, right, so this is a Moorish science sheik, who was one of the founders of Crip.

Speaker 1: 5:31

Hold on. Hold on hold on.

Speaker 2: 5:32

Hold on. That's too much right there, that's too deep right there, man Hold on hold on.

Speaker 1: 5:38

Whoa, whoa, whoa. You just said a Moorish science sheik started the Crips.

Speaker 3: 5:44

you just said Amoris Science Sheik started the Crips he wasn't a Sheik then, so he was a kid, just like Raymond Washington. He was in his teens, late teens, but LA was one of the biggest hot spots for the Panthers at that time. La is the reason they created SWAT Special Weapons. You know what I mean. Because, uh, in tactic response, because they had a shootout with the lapd for over four hours due to bunchy carter. That's why you say I have a lot of crip historians. Start with bunchy carter.

Speaker 3: 6:19

It was his influence as the head of the black panther chapter in LA that set the tone for the black leather jacket having the gun saying F the police. That culture in LA comes from him, it comes from Black Panthers, but it comes from specifically his version of the Black Panthers. You see what I'm saying. And he dealt with the gangs of LA. He was from Slauson Boys, so he has a connection with that first wave of 6-0s. A lot of them were under him directly. You know what I'm saying. He was from Slauson Boys, but he also dealt with the NOI as well, so he knew lessons. So he was God.

Speaker 1: 6:59

Tamika in a building. Yo Yo, I got a connection to Tamika because she is from my hood. What's up, tamika? I like seeing her on the check-in Harlem, harlem, harlem in the building. So she said what is his name again. Can you repeat that?

Speaker 3: 7:22

Oh, danifu Kareem Bey. Tap in with me for a copy of the blue bible. You have his name and many more the blue bible, danifu kareem bay. But no, he got his own books and stuff too as well. Like, indeed, he got.

Speaker 3: 7:35

I think he got a joint called uh, it's for sure, youtube. I don't know if it's a book as well. I want to say baby panther. So here's how it goes.

Speaker 3: 7:43

He's the connection between crip and panthers, really bunchy carter, because we bunchy could feel like this when bunchy car was alive, there was no such thing as crip. So that's kind of unfair to do that to him because we don't know if he would have been alive and said no, I get this crap you got. I'm saying so. I don't like doing that to people playing with their legacy like that. If I'm saying so, uh, I wanted.

Speaker 3: 8:03

Was he a crippled? I don't want to give a fuck name. I forgot his name, but brother bay, this is in 1972. Okay, according to him this is not me, I wasn't there. According to him, they even got interviews I could send you. According to him, he said that what they have formulated as as teenagers and maybe some other brothers with 1918 there, but y'all young men right by by 72, which is the third year in, they're already having major internal conflict. Now, mind you and this is chapter two of the blue bible it talks about how the first crips called each other blood I heard about that yeah, so there is no crip in blood.

Speaker 3: 8:44

This is all the vision of the devil. It's the same thing as how we got like five percent nge, whoop-de-boop guys, the muslims and you start looking back and seeing where the divisions come in, right, yeah, so what happens is you know, I'm not doing that just to, I'm not playing with the nation. I'm bringing a parallel each coasts, because that's what I represent, that's the crypt, jesus, you know, I mean it's the whole. I'm bringing a parallel of each coasts because that's what I represent. That's the crypt. You know what I mean, it's the whole. So I'm giving the duality here how this was taken.

Speaker 3: 9:09

Inequality born in 69, when Father Allah was returned. That's when Bunchy Carter was returned and Crips started. That's also the year when Muammar Gaddafi did the rebellion and took over Libya A bloodless coup. And all three of them things, if you ask me, have a direct effect on me and what I represent, even in the Blue Bible, because I talk about how all of that came to a cross-section when you had the Black Peacestones formulating, getting money, and formulating with Gaddafi bringing that to LA. No one wants to talk about how that was in LA before he's getting deep, he's breaking it down mathematically.

Speaker 1: 10:34

I love it. Now I want to take it back to the origins. Yeah, so, danifu Karim.

Speaker 3: 10:41

Bey said when he born the constitution in. I want to take it back to the origins. Yeah, so Danifu Karimbe said when he born the Constitution in 1972, the acronym he came with was Community.

Speaker 1: 10:58

Revolutionary Interparty Services. That explains the structure and why it's so democratic and loose. It was interparty services. One more time let's repeat that and this is in the Blue Bible.

Speaker 3: 11:03

It's in the blue bible, yeah. So I'm telling people like and it ain't no, just no crypt book. This is. This is information included in there. But I talk about how. In chapter one I talk about my own brain deadness, how, uh, you know prison, all those things.

Speaker 3: 11:16

Fortunately for me, this is all due to the blessings of my arm, leg, leg, arm, head. You know I mean, uh, I didn't come out with a buck fifty, I came out with more knowledge. I came out with information that even the people around me didn't necessarily get, because maybe someone saw something in me and pulled me to the side. You know what I mean. Someone saw something in me and pulled me to the side. He got me Because on the West Coast a lot of these organizations don't have as much roots. You get more of a mixture. So that was a blessing to me. I was able to get information from everybody. They may see I'm down with history. You know what I mean. Yeah, something they probably wouldn't do on the East Coast. Some Blackstones see me quoting 120 in California. They like that. Oh, wow, you a real father. Father, let me tell you our stuff. That's just how it is out here, you know I mean because it's not any of us film it's a lot of gangs. So, um, from that came the the 70s, and you see this on both coasts and all around the country.

Speaker 3: 12:21

The 70s, for our people, was a very confusing time. Yeah, time of blaxploitation. Yes, it was a time of extreme pride Like we don't know today. We can't imagine our women all walking around with afros. That would be like we might cry. You know what I'm saying. So it's a time even hard for us to understand. It's the guy ciphers, though, you know. And during that time, what I think a lot of people like to talk about in the abstract, but they don't like to bring it home and realize these are our uncles, these are, this is real shit. In the 70s is the time of the infiltration.

Speaker 3: 12:53

If I'm not mistaken, they had a program called the ghetto inform, the gip. This was released by trump. When trump did the cia paperwork release thing, this came out. It started cia released information every 50 years. So in 1972, 50 years directly behind 2022, when he first did that joint uh, in 1972 they started the gip. The ghetto informant program just goes along with co-intelRO. Now they use fancy words COINTELPRO. What's counterintelligence? Well, I'm not trying to fight fake intelligence, I'm trying to fight real intelligence. Right? So counterintelligence is artificial intelligence, it's AI. You just think AI means robot or digital shit.

Speaker 3: 13:37

No, that's real life AI in real time.

Speaker 3: 13:39

So, what they did was we had community revolutionary inter-party services, and these dudes had this vision to recreate this what they can of, like the Black Panthers. This is going to be the new thing, though, right, and the brothers? They're trying to turn out to do this. We're all hip youngsters that call each other blood. See how the devil works. Blood and crip. What's the difference between blood and crip? They dress the same, they look the same, they talk the same, they fight over the same blocks, they have sex with the same women, they go to the same jails, they make the same dumbass music. They wear the same chucks, just different color. It's just a science of colorism.

Speaker 2: 14:26

That's it. Vibration Yep, yes, sir.

Speaker 3: 14:32

Now they make fun of us and say we don't fight for colors over here. Oh, y'all don't. What the fuck was the Puerto Rican thing? The guys had all the seeds. That was the first division. They started breaking it. You see what I'm saying. They played this game everywhere, man. They played this game everywhere. And you see, in other states where dudes came in as drug out-of-town drug dealers that was Asians and started gangs.

Speaker 2: 14:59

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3: 14:59

Happened in LA too.

Speaker 2: 15:01

Talk about it.

Speaker 1: 15:02

Wait, okay, hold on.

Speaker 2: 15:05

Hold on, you just made a Ron. He just gave everybody a whole history lesson. If he knew what they were talking about from Cointelpro for infiltration of what was going on with Libya. From Jeff Fort when they were trying to hire him to do like those terrorist attacks.

Speaker 1: 15:18

But when he did this in LA you just said drug dealers were agents. You mean like agents as in like they were agents, because they were drug dealing or they were agents as in no, we're working for the government, so this is what happens.

Speaker 2: 15:33

They gave them carte blanche to sell drugs in the community.

Speaker 3: 15:35

In 1969 in Los Angeles, because I'm going to rock with you. I can't speak for everybody, but we're going to give names. Now in Los Angeles, I'm going to rock with you. I can't speak for everybody, but we're going to give names. Now we're going to stop being busted. Today. It's going to be legendary.

Speaker 3: 15:45

In 1969, butchie Carter got LA on lock. We're going to act like people didn't get high. But you couldn't come in front of a school and advertise drugs to kids and throw after school parties and have sex with all the little homegirls and all. You couldn't do that. Don't forget.

Speaker 3: 15:59

Behind this high and mighty gang name is a bunch of little kids getting turned out by grownups. That shit don't come into the 70s. So these gangs didn't start like that, because the whole concept of the gang the blood and didn't exist. Right, these were same people. It was a blood blood. These were crips talking to each other because the whole world said, hey, what up? Young blood. I hear that from people in coming from london. This is black lingo. They took our lingo and made it devilish me. Same thing what they do with the music. Same thing they were doing with the music in the 70s with the blaxploitation and all that. So they was fucking with the vibrations then right, and what they came with was why do pyro say p funk? Why is the vision of an og homie somebody from the 70s, with the afro and the low low?

Speaker 3: 16:48

this is where the vibration comes from right so when they start playing with the vibration 70s, I can get off. The subject from what I gathered in my research is let's start with la, then i'm'm going to go to Philly and New York. So in LA, in 69, when they got rid of Bunchy Carter, who's the? They, the Illuminati, the white men? No, let's be specific. These were not white men. They were getting orders from the white men. But it was actually a group of brothers named US United Slaves. You know, that's some government shit. What type of niggas come together and say we're united slaves, related by Robert Karenga, the inventor of you guessed it, I know. You told me yeah, he's still alive. You know, it is with you.

Speaker 2: 17:30

You meant Quan.

Speaker 1: 17:33

We met him. Well, not we, we didn't really meet him. He was on the remember the Zoom call and all of that I'm going to be fair was on the.

Speaker 3: 17:43

Remember the zoom call and all of that, remember. I'm gonna be fair. I'm gonna be fair. I say what I say in the book because the book is coming from the perspective of what it was told me. The prison, but you know, I don't know. But I even said it's in the book too. I ain't putting nothing on, I said it said in the prison.

Speaker 3: 17:54

Like california prison is like nah, they don't fuck rob corinne. Like like people that's pushing the whole bgf black panther type paradigm and all that like like not. So they see him as a government agent that was used to run a group of brothers that was basically used to go against them and create like a gang type and uh antagonistic environment with the panthers. That was there. Like we did with the other black power group that want to do it a different way and we have fights with y'all. In the midst of of these conflicts, bunchy Carter ends up dead. See what I'm saying. So we don't know if they slipped one of theirs in to do it, do it and make it look. You know what I mean. I'll even give Robert Correa this much. I've heard this said hey, he ain't know what was going on. He was just rocking with the. Okay, whatever the point is, in the midst of those conflicts, the same way the blood and cryptine plays out, bunch of car ends up dead.

Speaker 3: 18:45

They might say it was a us member that did it. All we know is it happened at a college and they claim it was them. Getting into it after he dies is a shootout on 41st and central between the lapd and thethers and it lasted for four hours. This is why they ended up creating SWAT. They went around and arrested all the members. Supposedly I don't know how many members it was, but I know that one night allegedly it was like over 70 arrests, so all the hitters. This is what led to the big void and the coming up of the other organizations and eventually Crip being the most popular. From that comes Donifu Karimbe, who wasn't called that at that time, comes up with the Community Revolutionary Interparty Services Constitution.

Speaker 3: 19:35

Now that's where my research goes. This is why I said the 70s is where it gets mixed up, because the 70s comes the drug dealer era and when I read information from Panthers in the East, I can't say I read this in Panther books from the West, because the Panther books in the West during that era kind of deal more with, like George Jackson and what's called like the BGF. The black gorilla family would be like the big homies of that era, right? So here's what's funny.

Speaker 3: 20:08

The government got rid of them strategically, one by one in the prisons, put cases on them, get them in there, bam. But while they would be in the shoe, which is segregated housing units, away from everybody, because they had so much knowledge, they want them on the main line. Whatever crips or bloods would be brought to the shoe, they would teach them. That's what led to the creation of bloodline united blood nation cco and blue note crip. And all these are like prison gangs or secret societies, other gangs levels or whatever. They speak swahili, they have different alliances, whatever that the united blood nation sounds familiar.

Speaker 3: 20:47

Yeah because, like I said in the book, they ended up no, no, they west coast, but they ended up. They they call it getting cut when they initiate you. They started spreading to out the prisons so they started like letting rappers join and all type of shit. So I talk about that in the book, how it was a dude I knew that was you being. They should be bringing pictures of celebrities to my cell. We used to be laughing like what the hell they took it to that level. But the point is to go back to what I was saying in the 70s. It's like the Crips are going into the prisons, they're getting beat up, they're having to fight real hard to even exist. It's a lot of crazy, you know. It's a lot of mixture going on. And in the midst of all of that, what I read and reading and studying Philly and New York is this is when the BLA came on the rise, which was like second wave of what was left for the black Panthers.

Speaker 2: 21:43

And the black BLA, black liberation army liberation army.

Speaker 3: 21:48

Yeah, and from what I gathered from them, their main conflict was in these ghettos that we're talking about, where these gangs were. But it wasn't the gangbangers they was conflicting with. They said they was conflicting with the people who were like in big homie status and were selling drugs, which a lot of them, you know it wasn't as mixed yet, it wasn't like gang drug dealers yet. So it was like the drug dealers still had their own separate world. You know what I mean. So it may be like a big homie or a dude who's like big homie of the neighborhood, but he's not as per se a crip or blood whatever. You know what I mean. You know it wasn't like how it is now, so set in stone. So you have people like 2D Reese. Rest in peace, 2d Reese.

Speaker 3: 22:31

2d Reese frequented the Roland 30 areas which we call Harlem out here. So I guess that'd be like Harlem, california, I guess. But it's like 2D Reese wasn't necessarily a crip, but the crips in that area looked up to them with protecting them. So this is like things are changing now. The gangs are growing, the drug dealers are kind of becoming the center of attention because the revolutionary dudes are getting pulled away. But from what I gather from the BLA, they're saying the government was sponsoring these people. Now I want to ask you something. Before a bunch of rap songs came out saying my amigo, my amigo, my amigo, wouldn't it seem kind of suspicious? A predominantly black neighborhood, not how we got them now, where they're not predominantly black, but we just act like they are A really predominantly black neighborhood, that's like 85% black. Some Mexicans over here giving you 20 pounds of dope at a time yeah, is over here giving you 20 pounds of dope at a time.

Speaker 1: 23:14

I think that's kind of weird Talk about it, talk about it.

Speaker 2: 23:18

You know what?

Speaker 3: 23:19

I'm saying, if anybody watching, then I can say the name. I remember his name because my real name is Brandon.

Speaker 2: 23:28

His name is Blandon, I heard of him.

Speaker 3: 23:31

Blandon, that was Freeway Rick, oh yeah yeah, it was CIA.

Speaker 2: 23:37

Oliver North in them right when they was fighting the Contras and all that. Oliver North walked up to no, no, he didn't, but it was proxy but I'm saying it was D'Amico.

Speaker 3: 23:47

So what. I'm saying is not exaggerating D'Amico dudes, be government sometimes hmm, hmm, he's on point.

Speaker 2: 23:56

Yo Jesus, you on fire, bro, the government sometimes.

Speaker 3: 23:58

He's on point.

Speaker 3: 23:59

Yo Jesus, you on fire, bro, you feel me we go lower level with it. You're talking about the Migos' grandsons. Nah, we ain't talking about your homie up the street we talking about. This is the beginning of the thing. It ain't even popular to do drugs in the hood this time. Here comes some Spanish dude. I got all the dope in the world. Sure I know they're gonna buy all this shit. No, nobody knew they're gonna buy all this shit. The demand wasn't even there like that. They set this in place bruh facts and I got that from reading bla publications and books. That was like their main issue, because you know they're.

Speaker 1: 24:33

They're like in the 70s and the 80s right, and they, they didn't they interfere with what was going on in queens with the seven crowns and all of that see that makes sense.

Speaker 3: 24:42

I didn't get that though, like the. Uh, I just got it in in general terms. I didn't get like it was actually seven. But you build it makes sense because we have to be realistic with ourselves. If I'm the hustler and these dudes, they're not police, they're saying F the pigs. But you got to get what I'm saying. We kind of missed that transition in our brain. We just go straight from revolutionary hood Like no, there was a time period where what will become the hood leader dude was despised by the political leader dude of the neighborhood. So that's going to take us back to the 70s with the crip culture, the first crips to enter prison. They was whipping their ass, the BGF, they was making them turn BGF. You feel me? The CCO came about as a result of them not being able to exterminate all the crips and they just kept coming more and more and more and more and more. You feel what I'm saying. So it's like they start learning from them and kind of evolving into that.

Speaker 1: 25:40

So they started learning from the Black guerrilla families, which is yeah, that's how they learned Swahili.

Speaker 3: 25:44

That's why a lot of the TCOs and BNCs are Muslim. That's why they say let's hold Uss her Oos Salama that come from the BGF. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1: 25:54

So do you know anything else about the BGF you?

Speaker 3: 25:58

say do I know about? Yeah, like just basic history. Well, yeah, I talk about that in the Blue Bible too. They were started by the brother George Jackson, who was, you know, with the Panthers, so it became basically like the prison division. You know what I mean? He was the author of blood in my eye. I know when I was in prison you couldn't even have to be a blood in my eye or they locked you. Uh, that's how deep it was and uh, yeah, when I was around they just represented.

Speaker 3: 26:24

You know, they was non-tolerant with all the goofy shit. Like, looking at how it is now, I hate that the bgf had to get that. They had to disappear because they were extremely non-tolerant of everything we complained about. And they're like all that sexy red, my booty brown, they'll come beat your ass for even saying some weird shit like that. You can't say the N-word, they don't play none of that.

Speaker 3: 26:45

So you know not to throw the nation back in, but I just really, because you look at like the vision that I had growing up, like in the 90s, when it's like oh yeah, the east coast, they, you know, they big selling dope and all that, but the guys at the same time. You know this false image that was the same thing, like, like y'all probably look at the west coast, like, oh yeah, they all gangbanging where checks and sell crap. You know, I'm saying, and it's like even that stereotype, in that image, if you ask me, they put the drugs, they started introducing the drug dealers and all of that and the blaxploitation, all that 70s, 80s is when they came with crack and just full-fledged and the police started actually getting in dudes' cars and going to other hoods and shooting at them. So the Bloods did it. I'm pretty sure on y'all's side it was these guys, the Gods did it. Now the Gods, all this crazy stuff. They start going that far with it, right, like the movie In Too Deep, right Like this ain't nothing.

Speaker 3: 27:57

When they start going that far with it, they were introducing drugs and gang, the gang culture that we see today then. So everything I just said before this is to show y'all this is that's where it came from. Now, this is the 80s, is what you see today, where it's just death, kill, murder and you see that in every hood around America.

Speaker 3: 28:16

You see, they all say, yeah, in the 80s it changed around here, right, this is when Crip got. But then you have the 90s. This is the part a lot of Black people don't want to admit because it makes them feel weak, like I ain't that influential, yes, them feel weak, like I ain't that influential, yes, in the 90s the main drug and together was hip-hop.

Speaker 3: 28:45

They infiltrated and made it. We already know, yo keep going. Yeah, they infiltrated and made it to where the culture or whatever your gang or crew or whatever became molded by this. See, this is what it was. I was talking to og this morning and the guy was telling me how you know, because I was telling, because you know it'd be three generations we. So we got, we got the guy's son he younger than me, but I'm in between and we were talking about how the way hip-hop is, you know, I was like we're saying words that's uh, you know, uh, non-traditional or non-appropriate, right, so I'm normalized we're talking about. And he was talking about how, in the beginning, you had to go to swap meet or go to a bootlegger from underground to even get hip-hop music right because it was that, you know.

Speaker 3: 29:34

And then not just like the rawness of it, just also it wasn't on the labels and all that, right. So what happens is when they bring out the hip hop and all of that in the 80s, right, you gotta look at what was going on at the time. So they was taking what was in the streets, bringing it. Okay, man, we're gonna get our piece, we're gonna water it down, commercialize it, mix it. Okay, man, we're going to get our piece of it, we're going to water it down, commercialize it, mix it. Run DMC with Aerosmith, all that corny shit. But then it came out later on African Band Biden and all that. I ain't got to sit here and bite my lips. So they made, they infiltrated even the guys. You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker 1: 30:19

Yeah, come be a god, you get your cheeks busted though compromising behavior. So just to clarify basically you're saying you're saying Africa Bambaataa basically influenced people to come into his operation, if you want to call it that.

Speaker 3: 30:38

I'm saying basically that the reason the vision of crip culture is so weirded out. Now, the same time I break down the Blue Bible, because I break down my adventure, I was learning more about the guys than I was learning about. You know what I mean. So what I realized was that these infiltrations went on around the nation at the same time. Okay, you see what I'm saying. So at the same time that the guys were spreading, and it was undeniable, they had all power boroughs on lock.

Speaker 3: 31:09

The devil don't create nothing, so the devil come and try to use that. He gets one of us to say, hey, tell the younger ones if they want to be god, god and be zulu and all that. You know, they gotta come through there. That chamber, so on the west coast, is hey, let them know if they want to be, you know, like the bgf and the big old swole and manly. And this is the west coast thing, right where you're gonna swole, you ain't scared of the police, you got your gun and you got your jury, man, kings, gods and the person. They got to come through here. They got to get socked on. Let the big homie do what he want. We got drugs. Yeah, I'm saying in the 90s it was the same thing. You would go try to become a rapper or man. You know I ain't going to you like doing drugs and all that, but it's like some rap click or something, you know what.

Speaker 2: 31:56

I'm saying I never heard of anything like that. What you mean, we're talking about off-camera. Probably I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 1: 32:04

I don't know what you're talking about, though.

Speaker 3: 32:06

I never heard that Like on the East Coast. It may be like a rap click. There was a time in the 90s, I'm saying, when hip-hop became the drug right. You could join a rap clique and they'll teach you the lingo, you may even start talking math max and all that, but they're getting you high. They got you on dope. Next thing you know you in jail. You feel what I'm saying. So then on the west coast, the same thing being, by the time it came in the 90s, it's like to just even be down or with the rappers or with the crews. Now you gang Like Tupac. Nothing I'm saying is far-fetched. Next thing, you know you're Tupac. You came out here to do some music. Now you gangbanging All that. This became the new drug world, the new drug world. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2: 32:49

Selling influence a package.

Speaker 3: 32:51

The whole UI of the shit.

Speaker 1: 32:54

Now, let me ask you this. Let me ask you this Do you think that COINTELPRO?

Speaker 3: 32:59

made that happen. I know COINTELPRO made it happen because it's called COINTELPRO. So the program we had before was counterintelligence. It was.

Speaker 2: 33:08

AI'd.

Speaker 3: 33:09

They ain't like us getting money, they ain't like us owning all our own stores, they ain't like us doing all that. So they gave us AI in the music. So in the 90s the music was literally beats that make you attack Bruh, fuck that nigga. Murder, murder, death, death, death, kill, kill, bone, duh, bone, duh, murder, death, kill, kill, kill your mama. All that, bro. It was in the 90s.

Speaker 2: 33:35

So I see what you're saying, before you go any further. He's saying basically this infiltrated people like James Brown, who own their masters, and Ray Charles and them. They exploit their weakness. They're like I see what you're doing with your music. You uplift people with the message, so I'm going to use what you love to destroy you, you know what I'm saying every time when we loved the books, they made the bible yep, exactly when we loved our little organizations, they made the Bible, yep.

Speaker 3: 33:55

When we loved our little organizations, blackbird, they made the gangs. When we loved getting high on different herbs see, it sounds bad now, but there was a time when all that stuff was pure. Grandma and them used to chew a little of this, smoke a little of that, sniff a little of that, go right in and get everything done. They infiltrated that. We used to smoke the weed. We used to buy a little five dollar nickel sack and be good all day. They infiltrated that. Now we need $30 to $40 for two hours.

Speaker 2: 34:23

Capitalism Smoking like four splits back to back. Back there, one drink would be straight.

Speaker 3: 34:29

What people don't want to realize is they went around the country and they didn't care if y'all said y'all was guys. Y'all said y'all was nations. Y'all said y'all was gangs. Y'all said y'all was whatever. They wanted in on everything. They studied each version and tried to get into each one and tried to infiltrate each one. You see, this in the 90s I'm trying to explain, though, that people don't want to bite, I'm working my way to was in the 90s. The infiltration was direct, through the music. They were literally telling you what to do, and I did that because I wanted to. No, you didn't. They told what they told me to do.

Speaker 3: 35:07

So bad the 90s that a lot of us don't even remember. We sit back and look at the videos. That shit really said. Shit really said that. How many of y'all watched the Biggie video when the girl walked in the bathroom and pulled the joint out? You're like, damn, I didn't even realize that. Yeah, ai, bro. Oh, yeah, yeah, thank you. Back then we were so straight we couldn't even see this shit. That's how straight we were. I didn't see that. What you?

Speaker 2: 35:38

talking about Right.

Speaker 3: 35:40

I didn't even accept that.

Speaker 1: 35:42

Yeah, we were too young to even figure that out.

Speaker 3: 35:48

We was growing around this too. You remember how them G's used to talk about Prince and all that. No, he's not gay Bro, it's idol worship. They knew exactly what they was doing and they said all that.

Speaker 1: 35:59

Yo hold on, Hold on. This dude is dropping crazy heavy bombs. Yo, because yo you remember that, Like when Prince used to wear the weird ass pants with the ass cheeks out Androgynous.

Speaker 2: 36:14

Yeah, that was like the ushering in the gay shit, the androgynous feature, because who was doing that before you had Boy George doing that?

Speaker 1: 36:22

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right about that. That was like the 80s, right they?

Speaker 2: 36:26

get Bowie in them. Yeah, that was the 80s yeah man, that was right. Cameo wearing that red thing, like what was that about, bro?

Speaker 3: 36:36

yeah, you're right about that word out yeah, when you look at punk rock and all that, you see they had their agenda going already then. But let's get back to this. What I'm saying about the 90s is not just because I'm saying, oh yeah, look what they were. If you go back to the signs that's been revealed by different artists, they claim that the meeting that was had when it was decided on to let rap become like gangster rap and let it go full-fledged, super exaggerated, with the violence and the sexual and all the vulgarities. They claimed it was a meeting in 91 between some top music execs, artists and prison heads. Right, meaning that the music after that was actually created to endorse and encourage, uh, prison population. Now we can, we can, we can talk for hours about is that true or not. We can get to the point of let's go with that narrative and see how that mean that that meant that the gangs, because they're directly in the prisons at that point. Right, because in the 70s when they started doing all the prison industrial complex and building all the extra prisons. So after 20 years from later, now the gangs are mainly in the prisons.

Speaker 3: 37:50

Now this is the soundtrack. Where that soundtrack come from? Did they create that? No, go back to when they had the tapes at the bootlegs, in the swap meets and all that, the mixtapes. Yeah, they studied this. Oh, this is, this is their soundtrack. Okay, now we're gonna tell them what to wear, we're gonna tell them what to do, we're gonna tell them how to feel with the music.

Speaker 2: 38:10

that's a fact. Commercialism commercialized, everything was commercialized and he was getting dudes like doing free endorsements, like when Run DMC did the whole my Adidas. That was free advertisement. Their stocks went up.

Speaker 3: 38:22

Yeah, now Adidas, make you real.

Speaker 1: 38:25

Right. But now he's taking everything from knowledge to born. It's starting with the Crips. Now, when he said the 90s, now we were going down the timeline, the Crips. When he said the 90s, we were going down the timeline with Crippin. Then he broke all that down, went through the 70s, 80s and now the 90s. Now the 90s, colors came out. Colors.

Speaker 3: 38:49

That was the 80s, wasn't it?

Speaker 2: 38:51

It was the 80s but the 90s for us, oh yeah that was the late 80s.

Speaker 1: 38:54

That was the late 80s.

Speaker 3: 38:55

My uncles did a beat on there, that was the late 80s For our age group.

Speaker 2: 39:01

that was for us, ron in the 90s, For sure it was a 90s thing, though.

Speaker 2: 39:07

It was like the end of the 80s when it came out Like 88, 96, when the whole no 96, when the whole blood thing hit the East Coast like heavy. No, it was 93. Not 93, but I'm talking like when they made it popular, like with the whole cut. Oh yeah, yeah yeah. I remember Channel 11, at 8 pm they would have movies that night and I remember they played Colors for everybody. They'd say there's a gay epidemic, so we're, and Channel 11 played that movie the whole week was Colors. Everybody's come out and started talking about it. You seen Colors, it's a net. And from there on that game Remember Banging on Wax came out after that, my favorite album that's not front row.

Speaker 3: 39:45

Even Banging on Wax. That's more cool. They were actually teaching people this is what it is. You know what I'm saying? Regardless of whether it is or what it's not, they created the program and said this is what it is. And then even for us it's like oh, this is what it is to be in New York. Okay, you got to dress like this, do this. It's all AI. You feel me? It's all artificial intelligence used to shape us. And then, what's sad, they're under influence. A lot of times, you start trying to be like what the ai is saying. It is well, this is what crip is supposed to be. Okay, that's what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 1: 40:18

I saw it in the movie right, remember that time when uh everybody was like uh crip walking you know what the biggest sin to cripping was?

Speaker 3: 40:27

who? Who took it all the way away from any god body? Ism any, any, any about? Anything about revolutionary interparty services? Anything about having your-party services? Anything about having your arms on 40 inches. Anything about being the most healthy you can be. Anything about smashing on the poleings and defending yourself, Snoop Dogg.

Speaker 2: 40:47

The devil.

Speaker 1: 40:49

You said Snoop Dogg the devil.

Speaker 2: 40:50

Oh boy, oh boy, King L is on fire tonight.

Speaker 1: 40:54

Bro, Snoop Dogg, the devil, King L is on fire tonight bro, Before we go into Blue Tang, let's talk about that for a hot second. The devil Snoop.

Speaker 3: 41:08

Dogg. Why would you say that? Because he single-handedly made Crip like something I don't even understand. He made it like him by himself and his influence through Death Row attracted so much attention, mind you. That's where big you evil ass got his start Death Row. I'm not saying he wasn't from 6-0 before that, but that's how he got into the mix with the artists and all of that. You heard of Whack 100? Yeah for sure. That's how he got in. He had no reason to be around. He was a good friend. I'm not being metaphorical, I'm not exaggerating none of that. The Devils. This is where it starts. This is when it became.

Speaker 3: 41:53

Crippin means to be skinny and be a pimp what the fuck? And talk with this weird tone and be extra I don't know like have your head in the sky and hey, doggy, and smoke all this weed and be high all day and skinny with tattoos and it's like all that whole concept of crypt. I don't know when. It was ever like. I remember growing up it was all about being super buff ball head, like you know, with the with the goatee clean cut. I don't remember it being that he came with that shit to the music. Okay, everybody else that pushed it after him was up under him, right, right, even Nipsey.

Speaker 3: 42:42

When he first came out, what did? They call him? The new Snoop Dogg. Yeah, that's how they sold him. It's the new Snoop Dogg y'all. Oh yeah, look, he's skinny like him. He look like he be pimping too. Huh, okay, yeah, bro, like it made a joke, it made all about rap. And then the rap started being the standard and the teacher and the ruler for the streets in general, but especially for the gangs. It was like the ruler for the streets in general, but especially for the gangs.

Speaker 1: 43:14

It was like the Bible for the gangs.

Speaker 3: 43:16

I mean, it became like the.

Speaker 1: 43:17

Bible of all the groups who were popularized around that time.

Speaker 3: 43:24

Yeah, what I say to gangs is because when you have gangs, you got all these large group of people trying to be on one accord. They can't all know each other, so a lot of times the music kind of binds them, especially if they got an artist that's from they hood.

Speaker 1: 43:38

For sure.

Speaker 3: 43:39

He represents them of the whole country, then so if you're from 6-0 or whatever Nipsey, if you're from whatever blood and this guy or whatever it's like.

Speaker 3: 43:52

See, here's the sad part about it is all that's good if it's used how, when it came from, with the panthers or jet fort and all of that. There's nothing wrong with unity. There's nothing wrong with defending yourself, there's nothing wrong with masculinity, there's nothing wrong with being in uniform. The problem is, we created those things and they were so powerful that the devil said I can't even fight, that I'm going to just join it and infiltrate. And he did such a good job that everything we're into now is the opposite. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3: 44:26

So it's like Even the things we complain about, we steadily maintain we complain about something as simple as weak lyrics in the music, but we make the music. You know what I'm saying. We hear the women complain about, you know, b-ass, niggas and all that, but they raise these dudes. You know, when I date a baby mama, I be like why you letting your son do this and that? So it's like I see a lot of things that we perpetuate, that we complain about, you know, and I I blame a lot of that on music and I people think I give too much credit to music. But no, I don't think so. I think music is sitting around it's, it's in the air, it's in the ethers, it's in your brain all day. Your neighbor's playing it, you're playing it. It has a big effect on how you think, how you move. That's why they put so much money and attention into it, because that's where the idol worshiping goes. Who do we idol worship more in our Black communities? I'll wait.

Speaker 2: 45:19

Yeah, celebrities athletes, Music celebrities.

Speaker 3: 45:22

You can be a celebrity, but the music celebrities.

Speaker 2: 45:25

Yeah, the music Most definitely, for sure.

Speaker 1: 45:29

Now I want to take it into Blu-Tang Blu, blue tang, blue tang. How did that come about?

Speaker 3: 45:34

because of what we talk about. So, uh, when I, you know I was fresh out of prison trying to be part of the ai, so you know, let's rap whatever right you know. I said give me a girlfriend, just light skin and get some guns. Go to new york and act like I sell drugs and, you know, kidding with the guys and all this bullshit. So once I actually did all of it, I said this is some bullshit.

Speaker 3: 45:57

I got to see Islam as I traveled. You know people really living it out, big families, some of them multiple earths, you know what I mean. Seeds, all that. I said, okay, got to live in the snow, you know what I mean. It made me want to be more of a man than you know the homie and all that. I've seen the value in family, really standing your square and it.

Speaker 3: 46:21

It didn't work to where it was like I just got to switch up. I mean maybe I could have, but it became more like I had a mission. So when I got back to level, I called a case in pennsylvania and I came back to level a lot and my name was kind of hot. So I was, you know, around like Crip Mac and all the little no jumper type people and all that. And there was an interview and I was involved in it and I don't know God, I didn't want to talk about eating booty and you know when the first time, somebody socked me and said you're from 40s now and all this stupid ass shit. So you know, my thing is this though, guys ain't no disrespect to nobody, but I just feel like a lot of dudes are lame and they don't have a lot of life to talk about, so all they talk about is like that's all they ever really did, like they really.

Speaker 3: 47:05

You know what I mean. I'm up there talking about the Morris Science Temple and the guys getting turned out of prison with the guys and pressing my PO and getting off parole without having to go through the process like other people because the Morris Science, I'm talking about this type of stuff. So from that interview I started getting calls from like people, like in the conscious community and stuff. You know what I mean. So that led me down that road. So I wasn't even really tripping off the music, no more, god, like I was dropping a song here and there and my whole thing then was to take all the attention I had from the lower and from the 85, introduce them to the 5. So you know I wasn't preaching the songs. I might throw a new outfit on. You know what I mean. Dress this line, make it. Go around the homies, that's his line. Making go around the homies and say y'all know the guy, that's like. You know. I mean I just would put it. You know I mean I'll mix it in there, like how I kind of took it, took it uh, leave from a page of the wu-tang. They.

Speaker 3: 47:58

I never felt like it was never preachy. They knew how to blend it in there to where, if you're a street person and you listen to them enough, you just start, ended up like realizing what they're saying after a while, to a degree or whatever you know. I mean I like it more like that. It was more organic. So, uh, as I was attempting to do that and doing it to my degree, I'm on. I was on what's called a crumb tv. Uh, in the crumb tv, conscious community brother I don't know people hitting me up, but anyway uh, conscious community brother and uh, he had a relationship with killer priest and what makes?

Speaker 3: 48:37

that is killer priest. We know of the wu-tang. You know the wu-tang ain't. No, just you know. You know, hey, how you doing backpack type of guys. You know what I mean. He's really outside for real, for real, like we're gonna put you to that. But so it was funny to end up with killer priest because to me he's the most like righteous of all of them. He's the most like, you know, into the studies. You got the right name like priest. You know what I'm saying. So I'm like, wow, and this is a dude who when I was in prison it was, you know, feeling some type of way right after my mom's passed and all of that and I was getting on that wave of studying hard. He was one of the dudes we used to listen to along with Nas. He was deep like that, bro, he'll speak on the Anunnaki and the false Hebrews and all that. He might go for minutes, minutes in on it. Like damn, you listen to his song, you can go study, you go look at his song. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1: 49:26

That's a fact.

Speaker 3: 49:28

For Crum to bring me over there to build with them. That was an honor. And then, like one day, they do the music promotions. I think Crum submitted one of my songs and they was like what is this? It was a crib, jesus, move out. So it just grew from there. So, after kind of just you know, looking, listening, observing and respecting, doing the knowledge, observing and respecting doing the knowledge, I kind of realized that the type of brain I had, the reason I wasn't able to translate fully into the music, I feel was because there's a formula, there's a method that goes with this. It's not just as simple as this is what I want to talk about. You know, I mean a certain type of sound, a certain type of frequencies, a certain type of so. You know I mean so sonically yeah, guys, sonically it wasn't there.

Speaker 3: 50:13

It was like I might be saying some stuff, but sonically it still was ratchet. So I was like I gotta kind of get into it. So as I got into it he made me part of his clique. He got a royal priesthood so I was working with them. This is just kind of like the first thing out there, out that camp, you know, I mean I work real fast. So I kind of was like the first one, kind of like I mean they got other joints look me wrong, like shout out to ty phoenix. She got crown lows, kai zodiac.

Speaker 3: 50:39

But I'm saying as far as us working together, it's like a royal priesthood, killer, priest, presents type of thing. So just in honor of that energy, you know, it just hit me like I was doing that song with Planet Asia. I got a song with Planet Asia called God Body-ism and on there I said I'm like met it from Wu-Tang, west Coast, crip Jesus, they call me Blue-Tang and everybody laughed at that part. So I was like, all right, that's, I got to run with that, at least for the project.

Speaker 1: 51:03

You know what I'm saying Right far as using the Woo symbol, that was okay from Killer Priest and all of that. You don't have to go through no rigmarole about that.

Speaker 3: 51:18

Tap in you know, what I'm saying. All I know is it was okay. I mean, I don't think they finna go to nobody's door and rip a shirt off their back or nothing like that. You know what I'm saying? Tap in before it do.

Speaker 1: 51:32

This shit make me exclusive. Yeah, move it up, bring it up again July 11.

Speaker 3: 51:38

Let me turn the background out. Hold on, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 52:00

All right, how many tracks?

Speaker 3: 52:02

You know, the same year that Morris conquered. That's a fact.

Speaker 2: 52:05

Oh yeah, that's a fact.

Speaker 3: 52:06

That's dope.

Speaker 1: 52:06

That's dope. That's dope. I like that.

Speaker 2: 52:10

Thank God for 7-Eleven.

Speaker 3: 52:12

God ruled the devil. You know what?

Speaker 1: 52:14

I'm saying Indeed. So how many tracks is on that joint?

Speaker 3: 52:19

Say that again.

Speaker 1: 52:20

How many tracks on it?

Speaker 3: 52:22

This is going to be my first time going double digit, so it's either going to be 10 or 11. Probably 10. I think I'm going to keep it old school, a side, b side, 5 and 5. You know what? I'm going to keep it old school, a-side, b-side, five and five. You know what? I'm saying that's dope. I'm going to have CDs and all that. We're going hard with this. This is going to be physical as hell. You know what?

Speaker 2: 52:37

I mean Back to the essence, huh.

Speaker 3: 52:40

CDs, all that. I don't know if y'all seen the Wu-Tang channel lately. I don't know what's going on over there man.

Speaker 1: 52:54

They called Avalanche the Architect, or some shit in Canada.

Speaker 3: 52:55

I think he hacked the page, though. You see this. He just dropped like 10 joints Weird. If they allowed this, then the blue tank has to have dropped immediately.

Speaker 2: 53:06

They were going through a transition when they had that new silver ring.

Speaker 3: 53:08

They had to get hacked, bro. When you get off this, live go, look, you're going to be crying, laughing. This had to be hacked, bro. When you get off this, live go, look, you're going to be crying, laughing Like this had to be hacked.

Speaker 1: 53:15

I see Into the Wu-Tang. Hold on, you said the Wu-Tang channel right.

Speaker 3: 53:21

No Wu-Tang Clan on YouTube.

Speaker 1: 53:24

Yeah, videos. Oh, I see Avalanche. I got to check this out.

Speaker 2: 53:33

Ron, we was raised off Killer Army bro. We was raised off Killer Army. We know Killer Army. He hacked the channel. He said he from Killer Army. I said we was raised off Killer Army and all that. We can't allow that man.

Speaker 3: 53:42

That dude going to get an issue. We might have to go to Canada and holler at him. Hey, wu-tang, I'm glad I'm on NYP Talks List. They might actually hear this Wu-Tang tap in, even though I'm with y'all already. We're killing all that. But you know, we were on the West Coast, y'all might got to tap in. I just was hollering at Shaheem and them, though, but the whole Wu-Tang tap in. We don't know what happened. Somebody stole RZA phone With them, white girls, whatever, y'all got going on. Man Holler at the real guys. Wu-tang.

Speaker 3: 54:15

I'm going over there and whoop some ass up in Canada. They on that final tour with them white girls. Somebody left their phone in the wrong room and let them do Avalanche to Architect Hack the goddamn channel.

Speaker 1: 54:26

Yo, on that note, thank you for coming out this evening. Really appreciate you. God man, this was, this was, this was a crowd right here, man, we got it, we got it.

Speaker 2: 54:36

We got to throw back this joint a few times yeah, dude, bro, that's me a lot of a lot of information. Man dropped a lot of gems. Man tap in with me y'all.

Speaker 3: 54:43

I also got another one called the black indian wars. I got a website. I'm gonna give y'all a link if y'all put it down there for me. I got the website, the black illuminaticom I could tap in. We got the books. You know I'm saying we got good content. You know I mean merch and more, everything to keep it high vibrational. You know I'm saying we coined the term high vibrational hip-hop so we ain't tripping off what y'all got. It's just we. This is high vibrational hip-hop. Right, you feel I'm saying blue tank. And to the brother that said come on now, cypher, my name is King LLL. Okay, this is a rap name, just like Method man or Ghost Face Killer or any of that. Don't pick on me because I'm from LA. We just gave you our history. You know what I'm saying nah, nah, nah that might be COINTELPRO bro cause.

Speaker 3: 55:31

look, I want to say this though 25 years later they can hands off it. Now the COINTELPRO has become AI. Now I'll prove it to you. A dude will go online and see one person post something that they made up theyself and say you know, they saying this, they ain't saying nothing. Your cousin posted that this morning. What do you mean they saying?

Speaker 1: 55:50

Exactly.

Speaker 3: 55:53

Exactly it would be ai in they self.

Speaker 1: 55:55

Now, you know, man yo, on that note, we are out of here. Peace to everybody, peace.