Noble Drew Ali 1913 - Economic Security For Our People and Government- Nakiim Bey

What happens when you reclaim your heritage but neglect your finances? This revealing conversation between Ron Brown and Nakeem Bay uncovers a forgotten aspect of Nobel Drew Ali's teachings – the critical importance of economic security for true liberation.Bey begins by challenging the common focus on philosophical and cultural aspects of identity while neglecting financial foundations. "What good is having a card in your pocket or wearing a fez on your head if your finances are shook?" he asks, pointing to Drew Ali's own business acumen. The Prophet wasn't just a spiritual leader but an entrepreneur who established multiple businesses, owned a limousine, and explicitly told followers to "preach economics.The discussion provides practical financial wisdom for listeners at any stage of their journey. From creating a robust emergency fund covering 6-12 months of expenses to strategic real estate investments, stock portfolio building, and understanding different types of life insurance as wealth-building tools. Bay shares personal experiences and observations from his financial planning background, making complex concepts accessible.Perhaps most powerful is the exploration of how mindset impacts financial outcomes. The speakers examine how the desire to "impress" through conspicuous consumption actually perpetuates economic slavery. They contrast this with wealthy individuals who often dress simply and focus on building assets rather than appearances. "We have to rewire our minds and establish true value where true value belongs," Bay explains, connecting modern financial wisdom with ancestral teachings.The conversation concludes with insights on building valuable networks based on character, accountability, and mutual benefit – not just cultural knowledge. As Bay notes, "If you add no value, you are unnecessary." This wisdom applies whether bui

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Speaker 1: 0:10

all right, what's going on? Everybody out there, it's ron brown nmt, the people's fitness professional, aka soul brother number one. I'm gonna start putting, I'm gonna start using that. I like that soul brother number one. It brings back that old vibe that we need. We need that soul brother vibe. Peace to everybody who's going to come in on the chat. I know y'all were expecting us on at 7 o'clock. If you were waiting With just technical difficulties, we are on now. We got the brother Nakeem Bay on the check-in. Thank you for coming out this evening, brother Nakeem Bay, how you be maintaining brother peace peace, peace, peace, peace.

Speaker 1: 0:49

Now, oh, we got three people on the chat. What's up those three people? Let us know you're in the building, how you doing out there on the chat. Let us know, give us a, a thumbs up or something. Anyway, we're talking about the economic security for our people and government and it says Noah Juweli 1913. Now you know what made you want to do the Noah Juweli 1913 piece before we go into it. Sui Lee what's up, sui Lee?

Speaker 2: 1:28

Sure, brother, great question. The fact of the matter, I mean the problem with Jalil, is the foundation of the Islamic movement in North America, upon recognition, that is right, and, brother, that is right. And he brought the Moors' nationality. But there was a gap that I see today, 100 years later, that is missing. It has not been advocated. And I think that if economics was revealed in the materials that he provided and they provided, I mean the Grand Shakes and others I think that the Moors, the Bayesian Isles and also those referred to as Blacks, africans, indians, west Indians, et cetera, you know, because this knowledge is for everybody, it's not for anybody in a box, because the economic issue is a world issue, and especially among our people.

Speaker 2: 2:22

So Nodrali laid the foundation. So I want to start with him first. Right, I want to quote certain sections in his materials. Right, so that the Moors can keep in mind that either economics and how important it is to get their act together, to get their life together, to get their careers together, to get their next generation together. Right, because we are very heavy into philosophy, you know science and culture and dogma, or religion and ideology of God and prophets, and we can go on. Right, but what good is any of that without finance? Right, you know what I'm saying. So that's why I've chosen the profit first, by 2013, because that's where the recognition started. I chose economics because you know the profit promoted economics.

Speaker 2: 3:18

He told the Moors to preach economics, not teach, but preach it. Right, you hear the Moors, but preach it. Right, you hear the Moors talking economics. No, right, you know, many of us call other folks. You know blacks and negros and colors, and they don't have no nationality, but they have something to stand on. They can provide for their families, their loved ones. There's a future. What good is having a card in your pocket or wearing a fez on your head or a lapel pin, but your finances is shook?

Speaker 1: 3:59

The prophet said it takes finance to raise a nation.

Speaker 2: 4:04

Absolutely. Before you can raise a nation as a whole, you got to first raise your who Yourself, right, because the first nation is man, woman and child. The first nation is that immediate bloodline family. You know what I'm saying, right? Well, you can do that, then you can take care of the nation. But how can you function on the outside of organization that's information, right when you have not taken care of the ground floor first and that's you and your family, and this is what you know. I think we see it very obviously that the moles should be focusing on. It's not me saying this here, it was the proper. Senate and other leaders have shared the same thing. You know, some more say he ain't wearing no fairs. The fairs don't make them more, it's free national status to make them more. Economic security that makes them more. I'm not wearing a lapel pin. Yeah, you know why. It's in my heart, right. So those things I have transitioned. I know when to pick it up, put it down.

Speaker 1: 5:16

The economics. I know how to drive it, drive it home, how to establish it for myself, my family, the prophet's idea of economics, and you know how it's how he basically put the economics piece within his teachings. He said preach economics, now any. Do you have any literature that says that or any proof of what he said in terms of economics?

Speaker 2: 5:48

Absolutely. You can go to the Schaumer Library here in Harlem right and you can go to the archives and you'll see many materials. Where the prophet had a school, right when he was teaching, he had a supermarket, he had a printing press. The Morris guy right where he was teaching, he had a supermarket, he had a printing press. The Morris guy right. He advocated economics and he was the foundation. He got more proof. Another prophet established the Morris tea. Then he established the Morris healing oil Morris compound. He was a business man, Right for sure tea. Didn't he establish the Moist Healing Oil Moist Compound? He was a business man, Right for sure, you know what.

Speaker 2: 6:29

I'm saying he was about industry, about business. Didn't he not have a Royce, royce, or limousine, correction, a limousine? Didn't he not have a driver who was also a moor?

Speaker 1: 6:42

Right right, right right A Ben, A right right AB. Delight Ben, thank you for the $10. I really appreciate you, man, really appreciate you. Back to what you were saying, he did have a driver who was a moor.

Speaker 2: 6:56

Right and he said imitate, I the prophet, don't imitate the prophet committee. You know the more sovereignty organization which is not relative To the foundational teachings. Don't go after the gods of Europe that you know. Not of Right, I'm going to tell you, I the prophet Right. He was sharply dressed. All the Moors In the Moors Science of America, how do they dress? Tie, suit, clean robe, clean fans. They're sharp, very receptive, and if you know some of the Moors in the temple, many of them are very progressive and they got families and they take care of them. Nice positions, so the basic foundation. Many of them Nice positions, so the basic foundation. Many of them have grasped. But many people have went astray from civilization and living now other than what Themselves. So the prophet had that limousine. Yeah, I heard that he had two wives, but the whole thing he was able to take care of those wives.

Speaker 1: 8:07

Now you're saying something that's controversial right now because some say he didn't have two wives, some say he had a wife and then he got another one. You know so that story. I don't know the specifics on that, because you know number one. I really don't like to talk too much about things that I wasn't there. I wasn't there, so I don't like to really talk about it because it could get controversial.

Speaker 2: 8:34

Messy, so I won't go into that. But what I will say is that some of the materials and the point I'm making is that he understood that he had to still be a responsible man- that's a fact.

Speaker 2: 8:48

To provide for those two and to the listener if you cannot provide for one, don't even think about it. If you can't provide for yourself and for your children, don't think about it. You see what I'm saying. That's a fact, you see. So the problem with Juwan Lee he established businesses. He said to the Moors to be industrious. Now you asked me a question. Page 14 in the Moors Guide, right, this is the. This is, please, my brother, this is the Moors Guide from Temple 21, incorporated Right. And on page 14, you asked me if there were any materials, right, mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: 9:35

The prophet said the Moors were the most ingenious and industrious of the subjects of Spain. Their expulsion from Spain in 1610 was one of the chief causes of the cadence of that country, for both spiritual and industry fell and decayed after their departure. So when it was there, it flourished. When they left, it fell. When the Moors was here in America with the prophet, they were industrious, but certain things went on. But now what I'm going to do to answer your question, page 16, I'm going to blend it. He said we must promote economic security. We must do what must promote economic security. We must do what Promote economic security.

Speaker 1: 10:30

Right, you get me. Yes, sir.

Speaker 2: 10:32

All right. The preaching of economic security among us is by no means as widespread and intensive as the circumstances demand. Spread and intensive as the circumstances demand. No other one thing is more needed among us at this time than greater economic power. I'm going to stop there for a second. He told them all to promote economics, right Own land, establish businesses. He even had a business manager that handled business affairs. He had a business manager that handled business affairs.

Speaker 1: 11:07

He had a business manager.

Speaker 2: 11:10

Moore's note. He had a business manager. I forgot his name. Offhand I can look it up, but not right now. He had a business manager. He told the Moore's to promote economics. Do you hear it in the street? Do you see it manifesting? No, they need to go into the original teachings and find out what the prophet was trying to tell the Moors. He said it very clearly. He said no other than one thing is more needed among us at this time than greater economic power 1928, moors brothers and listeners, than greater economic power 1928, morris brothers and listeners. And now we're in 2025. Doesn't it still apply today?

Speaker 3: 11:54

Right.

Speaker 2: 11:56

He said, better positions for our men and women, more business employment for our boys and girls and bigger incomes will follow our economic security. We shall be secure in nothing until we have economic power. A beggar people cannot develop the highest end there, nor can they attain to a genuine enjoyment of the spiritualities of life, right you see? So you don't hear the Moors teaching that, promoting that? Are they following their proper teachings to a degree? But nothing's more needed than this. Right here you see what I'm saying, right. So when you look carefully what is economics? But nothing's more needed than this, right here, you see what I'm saying. When you look carefully what?

Speaker 3: 12:52

is economics.

Speaker 2: 12:52

Learning the trick, commerce Learning the economy, learning how it flows, so you know when to invest, when to cash out, when to invest and win the whole Things. More important, real estate, I want land. You don't even own a block Of land, things so broad, but your Vision in front of you Is not even viewed. So we have to learn how to deal with investments, economics, land, vision in front of you, you're not even viewed. So we got to learn how to deal with investments, economics, land, how to set up businesses that fits a niche, meaning, find your calling as a highly man and apply it. Set up that business or that type of trust that you need, provide a product and a service.

Speaker 2: 13:49

The prophet had a product and a service and he had a team. You see what I'm saying. These here are examples, right? So let's deal with the foundation Economic security. I don't think the more is so high up, meaning my people are so high up. Let's deal with the foundation economic security. I don't think the more so high up, meaning my people so high up. Let's start with the basics. How many people have emergency fund? Can you go to? How many people have a emergency fund?

Speaker 1: 14:21

I would say a small percentage of the population. Exactly On the news it says some people cannot even go in the small percentage of the population.

Speaker 2: 14:24

Exactly On the news. It says some people cannot even go in their account and withdraw $500.

Speaker 1: 14:29

Yeah, I think. I saw that, yeah, you know what I'm saying. Not to laugh my bad.

Speaker 2: 14:35

Everything is real.

Speaker 1: 14:37

You know what?

Speaker 2: 14:38

I'm saying, right, you know, emerging fund, how much responsibility do you spend a month? Before you had the times Dad, for six months and now it is nine months, but you know, technically speaking it could be a year. To be real about it, if you spend $1,000, that's small, very small right A month. You should have that six months in securities, meaning in your liquid Cash value, or nine months Right. Or you should have a year to play it safe Because you have children. That's school, that's food, that's clothing, that's shelter, you have expenses. So if something happens right now, are you able to go to your emergency fund and withdraw funds for that purpose? And I'm talking those who know me, they know I have that in place. When they're in finance, they teach you To buy the product first. Some things I made sure I took care of when I was studying finance.

Speaker 2: 15:58

So economics, that's the foundation. You don't get a house economics, you have to make sure that you have fair credit. Well, most of us believe in credit. We're the same ones who have sovereignty, and now they can't leave New York State and go to Tennessee because they don't have a license to travel. But I'm not getting to that right, you know. I'm talking about you having an emergency fund to relieve your family, your loved ones. So that means you got to sit back now and you got to see are you following the economics? Nothing is more important than that. The land credit, so credit. Hey, listen, you can't even get a bit more without credit, right?

Speaker 3: 16:48

Right.

Speaker 2: 16:49

A car or vehicle. You know what I want to call it without credit. You can't even get a hotel sometime without a credit, even when you rent a car. You need a credit card now, not even a debit card. You see what I'm saying. So you want to invest in property. You got to bring your score. If you're 6'7" you can still get it, but you probably got to put down a little more. So are you studying economic security?

Speaker 1: 17:23

So let's talk a bit, let's, let's, let's unravel economic security a little bit more. So you're saying savings, right, emergency fund Is it your? So your emergency fund is your savings.

Speaker 2: 17:34

Yes, absolutely One of them.

Speaker 1: 17:36

Yes, absolutely One of them. One of them, right? So you would have money set aside for emergency and money set aside just for keepsake, pretty much so like you're just holding money.

Speaker 2: 17:48

Right, and we would have emergency fund. That's one, right? You don't touch that for emergency, right? You have that checking account where you're going to pay out bills and so forth from that account. Then you're going to have money enough for opportunities that might arise, right? Tesla was once here to the top and now it's here. And it's here, right. So you want to buy when it's over here over here right Now. Now it's here, it's here. You want to buy when it's over here over here.

Speaker 2: 18:20

That was way up here You're thinking about, man, if I had money, I can do this here. You can't do it if you don't have the money. You see what I'm saying, right. I'm an organization that had mad blocks of property for sale, very inexpensive. I shared it with an individual who I know had finance. You see what I'm saying you can buy lots, lots, right.

Speaker 1: 18:50

Lots man.

Speaker 2: 18:52

You may not use the lots, but you can rent out the lots, you can lease the lots. You see what I'm saying. You've got to have that cash in case you want to do investments. I just made an investment in Marriott Hotel with some other cats. If I didn't have the capital I couldn't have done it. You see what I'm saying. You know you got to have economics on your mind. Go ahead, brother.

Speaker 1: 19:27

Yeah, so now savings, emergency fund and savings for investments. So also, what else should you have? You know, for economic, economic security? You said credit, and also with good credit, if you didn't know, you can actually get business cards, business credit cards. If you have an LLC, your chances of getting a business credit card is a little higher than someone who doesn't have good credit. That's something else too.

Speaker 2: 20:03

Yeah, four or five credit rating for a business, but that's for a long time, that's not that important. In that case, right Money goes into a company and that case right Money goes into a company and that money like the profit, right draw and other relations money goes into a company and you have an investor who licensed in a Series 7 or a 6, right to invest in certain products. Right, because it's not about the cash gaining no return, it's about having a wise investor to help the company build its capital right. And the bottom line with a company is about the shareholders getting paid right. They're happy. The company is happy. In this case, that means the workers also happy and the workers can see vision. They go happy. The company is happy. In this case, that means the workers also happy and the workers can see vision. They go upstairs.

Speaker 1: 21:02

Got you All right Now as far as. So. We got economic security, savings, emergency fund, good credit. What's another thing? Ok, now buying. So, when we're talking about buying property, right, so I'm looking at properties, I'm looking at condos, I'm looking at, I'm looking at townhomes and I'm looking at houses, if you had to buy a property, or one of the three, which one would you get?

Speaker 2: 22:11

Okay, first, let me tell you this here you know, as you know, I deal with trust and I deal with. Tell you this here you know, as you know, I deal with trust and I deal with asset protection. Right, you know certain financial vehicles and some property are definitely before me as well. When it comes to property, you always want to employ someone who's best qualified to provide that opportunity, right? I mean, I know someone who has property that's been running out to people on the college area, right, and nurses, right, as an Airbnb.

Speaker 2: 22:46

You know you got to find out the rules and regulations, the laws. You know that apply to that. You know, if you want that Some people has property, they can flip it. You know that applies back. You know, if you want that some people um has um property with, they could flip it. You know, right, uh, some have properties where it is written out. You know units. You know what I'm saying. It all depends upon your goal. You know you might get a brownstone, you, you might live on top and they live on the second floor or downstairs.

Speaker 3: 23:12

You know what I mean.

Speaker 2: 23:13

Right, right, absolutely, you know. But also there's management involved. You know, co-op condo, that's the first and second stage to getting a home. Absolutely, you know. So it all depends on what you want to accomplish. And these are good questions, because it involves economics, it involves security, you know. So you want to know what you always invest in, absolutely. Real estate, absolutely, that's one. Right, I know a sister, she's a millionaire.

Speaker 2: 23:43

This is by real estate and stocks alone. Right, you don't have to go beyond that point. Stocks alone. You know real estate, all you do, all you do. You know, know you diversify your portfolio, not be alone. You know a lot of opportunities at risk. You know people want to do um, investment in liens. That's cool too, you know. I have no knowledge of that um, but I do have knowledge of the lien. If someone has a tax lien, you can purchase it as it accrues, you pay on it, it gains, and the owner later on can come back and say I want it back. You can sell it back now for the return on that dollar. Some states you're not allowed to do that, meaning you're not allowed to actually own the property after the fact.

Speaker 3: 24:39

You know I was, I was taught about that piece. First of all, my uncle taught me that recently. He said your first home is not your, it's not your dream home. He said get your first home. You know multiple units, rent it out, yes, and then from there you pull the equity, from there to get the home that you actually want to purchase and from there you just keep making multiple hops.

Speaker 2: 25:00

Absolutely, brother, Right right. So the equity is not for you to sit there.

Speaker 3: 25:06

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 25:06

It's called OPP right. Right Is that right Money, right, opn right A few of the money, right, right, well, it's popular right. Money right, yeah, right, opium right A piece of money. Right, you're using equity in the property? Yeah, to invest in opportunities. Right now you're on a job. Let's just say you get a raise, mm-hmm, you're going to spend that money right Now, that money that you got to raise, you didn't see invest it. See, these are the fundamental concepts of economics.

Speaker 3: 25:37

It's very simple. You said stocks right, I got into stocks in 2019. And really during the pandemic, when it was dirt cheap to buy them, right, I got rid of a few early Kind of regret doing that. But I was like you know. I learned that it's a long game of waiting. You just just let it sit there, absolutely. Even with the crypto, I just really got into it. Now I'm like I'm really enjoying this, like it's it's a long wait game.

Speaker 2: 26:05

No, but I'm glad you sharing this on social media because you have going that way. You, because you have going that way, you know how it goes. Don't invest in stocks if you're not willing to hold. Don't invest if you're not willing to lose. You see what I'm saying. Don't do it, only do it if you have exposure to income.

Speaker 3: 26:34

Flipping cars too. People don't know income. Yeah, oh yeah, flipping cars too, people don't know. I used to flip cars too you know.

Speaker 2: 26:42

but but whatever opportunity you can make to make capital raise your situation, do it, because in the proper saying he said mo, morris, the children, you're rich Right. He said, morris, you're rich Right. And we must know what the plan is. Right, because we are subject again to economic slavery. Right, not having the knowledge that right now you're speaking about. I don't care about the high science. I can quote much. It's about the application. If you want your network, if you want to know about properties, I have someone in my circle I can refer you to. If you want to set up a business, I can assure that happens for you and I have excellent testimonies to the effect.

Speaker 3: 27:43

I want to add one thing too Life insurance people, because some people can't afford to pay for their own debt. You know your death and debt.

Speaker 2: 27:53

You got to get life insurance, man you know, I know, I know my brother ron, he wanted me to really build on this originally. You know, um, the finance side, you know, and we went into it. But it's for economics, right, you know? Uh, it was a good start off with the problem of jolly um, and I was a favorite for the CMB piece right later on. But insurance came from the Moors 1787, when the Moors jumped on the European ships in the colonies and raised up the insurance rates on them. And I'll show that at the on the part I did with CMB. Right, I had that to be shared, right, we saw that You're right. Insurance, our parents always dealt with whole life insurance, a permanent insurance, a permanent whole life, because the cash value in it, the cash value you can borrow from it. It's really considered a death benefit but you can borrow from it and not be taxed Capital tax, just pay it back, but you want to for long term. You can also use it for collateral if you're going to buy a home.

Speaker 3: 29:13

It also depends on the circumstances If you could get whole cash value or you just get the term life, depending on your health and all that.

Speaker 2: 29:21

I got you. Whole life term. Absolutely, I've got that, nicholas, for sure. I'll build that in a moment. Absolutely, so. I'm licensed in new york state, right, because I use. I'm licensed in new york state for term, whole life, universal key man insurance, long-term care, etc. Right, um, um. And the reason I'm licensed in this area because these are tools for asset protection, right, whole life is saying um, take out for your family, your middle age young. Right, you're pretty good. Right, you, you can afford it. The health is not true, you know of a concern. You got it. You can borrow from me. You could take money out for your kids to go to school. Right, you don't need a 529 plan. Right, my job is to make your family whole right. Term. Usually companies don't want to see you last beyond term. Right, it's a term.

Speaker 3: 30:32

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 30:32

Years, you know. 30 years, right, 20 years, you know, but you have to wait that window. So if you're like in 10 years, you want to make sure that you can't convert it. And the longer you wait, the older you get, Illness can also happen and it costs you more, right? I know a client of mine. He has a house and he took out term insurance right, half a million. Now his partner didn't do it, she didn't do it, but nonetheless he was concerned about the family. So if something happens to him she can cash out and don't have to fall on hard times run by the mortgage of the house. Right, so you have to leverage that opportunity, you know. So insurance definitely is a tool for asset protection. Key man insurance is really for a company, two partners, one and two, ron and yourself. Right, and Ron, I'm it out on you Because you're a key man in the business. Right, you're a key, you know, through you the company floats Right, well, right, so unfortunately something happened to you. Right, so he can cash out on your policy.

Speaker 3: 31:58

Illuminati, illuminati, illuminati. Nah, nah, I'm just kidding. Nah, I get what you're saying. It makes sense, because our jobs do that to us anyway.

Speaker 2: 32:08

Right, right he can cash out on you. Right, it's called key man insurance. I just said that.

Speaker 3: 32:14

Illuminati, because people will say that they're like, oh, that's wrong, but no, they're like oh, that's wrong, but no, they're the fools.

Speaker 2: 32:21

Brother Ron saved his company. Now what the brother just said a moment ago about hard assets right, those assets are primarily for retirement, right? If I recall, I think gold right now is like $3,000 plus right now for gold. It's nearly $4,000 right now, right, silver, I don't know, that's always low, right? Definitely jury got to be appraised and find out the value of it. Those are long-term investments, hard assets. Then you got to find someone that's going to change it over. Often times you got to show the papers to that effect.

Speaker 1: 33:14

I have a question about stock. The way that I think that I'm going to approach stock is like instead of like going to these apps and just playing around, I want to give someone like a stock person, who that that's their profession, give them a certain amount of money and they do my portfolio and all that. Is that a better option?

Speaker 2: 33:41

Yeah, because you don't have knowledge of yourself, right, absolutely. I mean for me. I'm licensed for the product I just mentioned. I'm not licensed to sell securities, right, I'm going to do index Right and fix annuities that's still with an insurance company, right, but I cannot sell securities. But I have a team with me, right with a Series 6, with this individual or family and discuss their financial situation and see what we can do for them and see what their goals are Right. I'm saying I have a diploma in financial planning. I learned all 19 programs, options, puts, all that Right. You know we do funds, you know different caps, but nonetheless, what I have done, when I invested, when I was studying in finance and planning, I walked myself through the process. I made the investments. I made the investments Soon as Trump got in office with Elon.

Speaker 3: 35:03

Musk. I looked beyond politics.

Speaker 2: 35:04

I was looking at opportunity, you know, and it was going through the ups and downs. You know I was kind of nervous a little bit right. But I looked at my stuff I was like, wow, okay, I like this here. You know what I'm saying. But because I had knowledge of stocks, I knew what to look for In the process. You know, you get things up to date. You know you got to find out what market is the best invested. You got to study the perspective of a company. You know, you got to watch right now, like right now, people get the war right. Oh yeah, the war is a war. Then, see, I'm looking back and I'm saying, hmm, I have no control over the war At all. Exactly, but I can probably see opportunities in wars is always about all. Exactly, but I can probably see opportunities in wars is always about money.

Speaker 3: 36:01

Right.

Speaker 2: 36:02

So let me see what's best to invest in at this time. It could be $2,000, it could be $5,000. Depends on what it is right you know. See everything that you're asking. It's key. It brings us from economic slavery to free economics.

Speaker 1: 36:24

One thing, one thing you didn't mention is I think one of the keys to economic freedom and security is to dial back your bad habits.

Speaker 2: 36:38

Well, I love it, bro. I love it. I love it, brother, I love it. You know, absolutely, absolutely. Be frugal but not cheap. Be cautious and luring before you act. Don't try to keep up with the Joneses. That's a fact. Don't try to keep up with the Joneses.

Speaker 3: 36:58

That's a fact.

Speaker 2: 36:59

Don't try to impress anyone, don't go with no sugar, this and sugar that. You know what I'm saying. You don't need anybody in your pockets. And do not date or marry in poverty, because positive produce positive Poverty in poverty. Because positive produce, positive Poverty produce poverty. Success produce success. Right, right, I remember I'm going back now. I used to be at social events back in early 90s and there's a brother. He's going to say, hey, how much that wine cost, because I'm a wine drinker right, $15. You got insurance. No, no, ok, ok, ok, probably a few times he's do it to me. How much that glass cost you, how much, how many drinks for your brothers? Right, right, you go outside to socialize. You got to be conscious of what you're doing, right? You know so bad habits. One habit is telling people about your pockets flossing that's very true.

Speaker 2: 38:29

That's very true trying to get the most latest, whatever, whatever. Nah, you got the dress to impress. China just exposed it. Trying to get the most latest, whatever, whatever? Mm-mm. Nah, nah, you got the dress to impress, uh-uh.

Speaker 3: 38:41

China just exposed that when they did with the whole buying the labels, people were busy spending hundreds of dollars, thousands of dollars. And I've been there too, doing stupid stuff, right, and I stopped there for a minute. I'm like, hold up, why am I going to pay a thousand dollars for this when it cost them five cents to make this an hour? Right, but I'm over here paying for the taxes so I could keep up with the Joneses and have this image. You know, dudes impressing dudes, right? Yo, it's not even about women. Men are impressing men out here.

Speaker 1: 39:09

Absolutely Now check this out. I know a guy Good brother, this brother, good brother, this brother walked in all the time with the same sneakers, the same sneakers, and he was making money. We were all making money. I'm looking at him like bro, what's going on? I'm not saying anything, I'm just looking and, uh, months later, months later down the line, I'm talking to him over the phone. Yeah, this is my new house. I got another one down here now.

Speaker 2: 39:46

Indeed.

Speaker 3: 39:47

Exactly. And look at the Jews. Right, people say they wear the same suits every day, right, because they don't care about the image, and I'm glad that you said this. We were put in economic slavery, how we think. We think we got to wear the latest and greatest to buy back our identity, to feel good about ourselves, our confidence.

Speaker 2: 40:06

Right, we have to reprogram ourselves, and that's why we're having good things now.

Speaker 2: 40:12

Right, you've got to know when to wear it Needs and wants and see if we all hanging out three of us, we going out we put on our best. Right, if you want to meet a client, you put on your best. That business meeting, based on the meeting, the culture of it, you put on your best. You see what I'm saying, right, based on the meeting, the culture of it, you're putting your best. You see what I'm saying Right, never downplay yourself. You know what I'm saying. But high profile people who got millions, they ain't trying to impress one another.

Speaker 1: 40:53

Man I got another story. Another man I got another story. The other day I was talking to a guy. He came in dressed like I don't know. I just looked at him like I remember you said that, yeah, what does he have on right now, at the end of the conversation, this dude is worth multi, millions and millions and millions and millions.

Speaker 3: 41:18

Right, I've seen it with um. It was a picture years ago. I caught a lot of flack for this on Instagram. It was Bill Gates with a bunch of rappers and the caption said the most richest person in the room does not have not one diamond on him In the picture and people were like, oh, because he has no style, he's not from our culture.

Speaker 3: 41:37

People are like, oh, because he has no style, he's not from our culture. I'm like, yeah, you could say that he's not from the culture, but he's the most richest person in that room, wealthy Amongst these rappers who have big chains on. He's just there with a dad sweatshirt on. I need a sweatshirt, a jacket, t-shirt and some jeans. You know how they do with the sneakers.

Speaker 2: 41:58

D and some jeans, and you know how they do with the sneakers, dirty as hell. He's just chilling. Who are you trying to impress? You see what I'm saying, you know. Get out of the poverty mind frame and just live. Think about you, your children and your family. You see, that's economics. Think about economic security. You know and's economics. Think about economic security, you know, and birds of a feather truly flock together. I want to show you something Earlier, brother, I sent to you. Right, remember this picture I showed you of the prophet? Yeah Right, he is sitting with Asa the priest. He is sitting with Asa the priest. He is sitting with you know, he was the first congressman right out of.

Speaker 2: 42:44

Chicago. He's sitting with a senator. Other man from Chicago he's sitting with Jesse Binger, the first black man who owned or he's how you want to call him a bank in Chicago. It's called the Jesse Bingo Bank. Right, that was his circle as he moved with. Right, he didn't have to impress anyone because many of them was just about equal Many of them on the spiritual side because they needed his vote. Right, he didn't have to impress anyone because many of them was just about equal. Many of them on the spiritual side because they needed his vote. Right, but they're always doing well. Right, we have to retrain our minds, we have to rewire our minds. We have to establish true value where true value belongs. Right, you know? Remember, noah Joali also dealt with the affairs of the world. Right, even when he said among the affairs of men. Right, look at it very carefully. How many of us can sit among the affairs of men? Now, what is the purpose of sitting among the affairs of men? Anybody know?

Speaker 1: 44:06

You said what is the purpose?

Speaker 2: 44:07

Yes.

Speaker 1: 44:09

The purpose of sitting among the affairs of men or being a part of the affairs of men is to get things done for your nation and people.

Speaker 2: 44:21

Right Now watch it how you said that, because our job is to uplift humanity, so we're not doing any kind of separatism or isolation.

Speaker 3: 44:33

Right.

Speaker 2: 44:34

So your people, absolutely so. When you're an're american citizen, you're for americans. Right, right um. Everyone get their fair share.

Speaker 1: 44:46

Go ahead, brother but just like you said earlier, though, is, it starts with yourself, your family, then your community, and then it spreads out right, right, right, right right. You got to work with your own people first before you can work with anyone else.

Speaker 2: 45:04

When you're in government they're not the case. When you're in government, it's universal. We teach knowledge and wisdom to all other human families, All the planet Earth.

Speaker 2: 45:15

Father said we're the uplifted, fallen humanity. Now here he said. Him and family Probably said we're the Lift, falling humanity Right now. Here he Said come Good people, because I, the prophet, said, to redeem this nation from mental Slavery, which you have Now need everyone Of you who think that your condition Can be better. This is a field open to strong men and women to lift the nation and take your place in the affairs of men. If the Europeans and other nations are helping me, why not you? It is your problem. That was a mission, that was a call out. Our job is to be among the affairs of men, the affairs of men and the affairs of women. That is a network, that is access, that is connections to more wealth and more of a network. But how do you dress for those occasions, do you be? You know me talking about Islam and more science.

Speaker 3: 46:26

It is a tie. No.

Speaker 2: 46:29

You're talking about economic security. You see what I'm saying. So what you asked a moment ago, that question, that was correct. You know. That was one point that had to be addressed very immediately. Our job is to study economics sit among the affairs of men, right, and our job is to save the wood nation right now I want to ask you yep, I now want to ask you to, to, to get a network.

Speaker 1: 47:06

Like I noticed just watching you online and like knowing you from like years ago, like how you been moving right, so like you're a person that you have a lot of good leadership qualities, people are attracted to your leadership. That's one. And also you move around with different, like Masons and different. So, would you say, the Masonry got you into these circles. Or let's say, if someone doesn't want to really get into masonry and they just want to just you know, build their network, how would they do that?

Speaker 2: 47:47

You don't have to be in no organization to make a connection. All you have to do is want to change. You have to want to improve or be better in your current status. If you know that your circle is not a progressive one, then you should limit or eliminate that circle and have no qualms about it. If you know you want to enter a certain circle and build a different relationship with people and show progress, look at them as human beings and good people and see what qualities they have that measure up with you, not you with them they have that measure up with you, not you with them, and refine your situation to become a better person.

Speaker 2: 48:44

Right, and do what you have to do as a man to be successful, because at the end, they want to know are you progressive, are you responsible and are you accountable? And are you accountable and do you have any value to bring? Because if you have no value, however, in finance, if you know about it, it says, if you add no value, you are unnecessary. Oh, that is real talk, yeah, right. So so what kind of value you bring? You know good character and just being a friend of someone is nice, you know. I'm saying right, because it's like a man, a woman on their job getting hell and in the street and come home and still got hell. No, a man or woman on their job getting hell in the street and come home and still got hell. No, a man or woman will come home to their loved one and be happy because it was pain in the street. So you might be the person that's warm and practice, love, you know, and truth and peace and so forth and good to be around, but also you may add value.

Speaker 2: 49:58

I have connections that I can bring you on to that's value. I can help you improve a family bank. If you want to establish that, I can direct you, as you know earlier, in asset protection Right Businesses. I can help you stabilize your condition. If you want to be involved with other organizations, all you got to do is first be you and know who you are. I don't mean this, I'm God. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we know that. Do you have the leadership as a man, the character of humility? Do you talk a lot in these circles about your religion or your doctrine, or can you hold a connotation on the outside of that? There, you know so? No, maitreyi was an add-on.

Speaker 2: 50:52

Moorish Science was an add-on. No journey I have taken did not add on, but I had to draw it up in the finest owner I could detect and deal with equality with those that I know I could deal with equality with. And what made it even greater for me to invest myself? Because I did not see white anti-white. I'm going to say it again. And I didn't see white anti-white. I'm going to say it again. I didn't see pro-black, Because when a law taught I told you in the previous video that we're not anti-white and pro-black. Somebody said I'm pro-black, that's your business, that's fine, I'm not, Because your own can hurt you even worse than the other guys.

Speaker 3: 51:38

That's true To each their own man.

Speaker 2: 51:40

Absolutely. See, you know and I'm not a Trump fan but you're going to respect transparency, You're going to respect deceit, because you can see it, because that's what some of them do. Right, exactly All people be whispering behind the walls, behind the trees, right, I just observe them. I'm not hating them or hating them, or loving them, or loving them. I'm just understanding and moving forward, because I don't keep the company of this one or that one, but I move in these circles.

Speaker 3: 52:19

Chameleon.

Speaker 2: 52:21

Dirty. You know, something on the wall right I observe, like a chameleon, and dirty Something on the wall I observed. So answer your question, brother. These were schools of thoughts that I have gone through and learned about the original man being the God. The first God is what triggered it. I watched my teacher one of them, a la Coltree, if you know who he is. I saw him stay away for a little bit and build his family foundation. I said, wow, I'll do more on the outside than on the inside.

Speaker 2: 52:55

And I found myself that way, not being influenced by any other elements, but the elements that I have chosen to be in. So we have two components. You got to choose the path you want to walk.

Speaker 2: 53:07

You know what I'm saying. You got to choose the lane you want to move in. If you want to be successful, you're going to have to crack down on those lessons Abstract those best parts, because that's how I travel. Lessons Abstract those best parts, because that's how I travel Every organization. I sit back and observe and I pick the best part for myself and the worst part I put to the side and I build with the best part, I move forward and I continue.

Speaker 3: 53:36

Make it work for you, absolutely. That's why people be asking about masonry. That's like, yeah, I make it work for you. That's why people be asking about masonry. That's like, yeah, I make it work for you. What this person done before me, this predecessor, I'm not gonna do all that.

Speaker 2: 53:45

I'm my own person at the end of the day and remember masonry. You have tools right square compasses, gavel, chisel, mallet, blase right, you gotta know what these tools do in carpentry, as you do work. You got to know what tool to use at one particular time. Right, you got to know the stocks. You got to see which stock is more thinkable at this time, maybe in the future, which company has more longevity you?

Speaker 3: 54:25

know, let me read the stars.

Speaker 2: 54:26

Let me see how the market is traveling right now. You got to know the tools, right Hard assets. You got to see which ones. So all this is in the science. See, when the prophets say economics, he didn't say be yelling it. Explain it, define it, show the importance of it. Anybody who comes to this reading, this hearing, when they look into the Moorish movement, they need the Moorish guide and they need to see which parts in these Morris Guides one from Timber 21, the north side, oh, and one from the south side.

Speaker 2: 55:15

Some say one incorporated, one unincorporated. I don't care what y'all say, that's how y'all see it. The one that's incorporated, they are protected by the government, and the one unincorporated are protected by belief in spirituality and that's fine. You know, we got to kill the ideology Of the belief system. Yeah, we got to get into the business of the day. So Moore should definitely Look into these books the Moore's Guide and the Sands of the Prophet and highlight every section that did economics. Like I said earlier, moore's, look at this profit and highlight every section that deal with economics. Like I said earlier, moores, look at this. I mean, moores, just your best, don't gossip, right? He's giving you refinement, he's giving you culture.

Speaker 2: 56:17

You know, right, he's giving you civilization, he's giving you righteousness. You know right, he's giving you civilization, he's giving you righteousness. You know, I see on YouTube, it kills me when a lot of these morals are talking about the prophet this way, or the prophet that way, or the ink this. You're so far behind, you're dated. You're still living in 1913. You don't find anybody else on YouTube who claims Islam, bashing one another in Islam, because Islam is peace and it is a brotherhood. I know some readers. They say well, I'm not a Muslim, I'm not a Muslim. That's fine truth for truth.

Speaker 1: 57:12

you see what I'm saying to each their own right the whole thing is investing in yourself now, before we Cut out, I just want to let everybody know we're definitely going to have the brother Nakeem Bay back, but you know we always do an hour on the show. Any Last words, brother Nakeem Bay.

Speaker 2: 57:37

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, a few things. Number one than nike b. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, um a few things. Number one um the sands of the prophet nubu juali and the moore's guide. Get him. Get him and study the economic side and put your house in order and study about Stocks, real estate, insurance, hard assets, study about character, dress code, humility, right. This gets you in the gate Towards success. Do this here, right, and look in the gate towards success. Do this here right and look. You can email me at woodburywmcom, right, or 800 number 844-768-4484, 844-678-4484. Email me or you call that number, I'll get it. Well, listen, I'm not into the neurological, scientific, biochemical, all that.

Speaker 3: 58:59

Yeah, you get lost in there.

Speaker 2: 59:01

Call me if you want to do business and make sure that you let me know it came from this call.

Speaker 1: 59:10

All right Now, before we cut out, the next time you come on, I'm going to take that number, I'm going to put it down on the screen, because I could put it on the screen. You know I could put it on the screen. You know I could put it on the screen like, let's say, for instance, like boom, I could put your email on the screen, just like that. Okay, with your number. So we're gonna do that next time. Um, thank you for coming out, brother nakeem bay. I really appreciate you. We'll build, continuously build. Thank you all for checking us out and we are out of here on the next one peace, thank you.