Why You Shouldn’t Call Yourself “Black” – The Hidden Truth - Abdullah Bey & Yisrael Bey

Have you ever questioned why certain people are identified by nationality while others are labeled by color? This episode dives headfirst into the revolutionary idea that the term "Black" represents not just a color designation, but a deliberate erasure of national identity.

Abdullah and Yisrael, scholars of Moorish history, present meticulously researched evidence challenging our understanding of identity politics. They demonstrate through historical documents, artwork, and etymological analysis that "Moor" was the predominant term used in European literature from the 1500s through the 1800s to describe people now classified as "Black." The most compelling argument they present? There has never existed a kingdom, empire, clan, or tribe called "Black" – yet we readily accept this designation while Europeans maintain nationality-based identification even for dog breeds.

The conversation takes fascinating turns through the history of surnames, revealing how family names often indicated ancestry, occupation, or physical characteristics. The scholars explain how European powers systematically transferred territorial sovereignty through treaties, fundamentally altering the status, rights, and nationality of inhabitants – a process whose effects continue to reverberate today.

What makes this discussion particularly powerful is its evidence-based approach. Rather than relying on emotional appeals, the speakers consistently reference primary sources, historical documents, and principles of international law. They challenge listeners to examine documentary evidence showing how "Moor" or "Blackamoor" appeared in Shakespeare's works, the Geneva Bible, dictionaries, and countless other sources before being systematically replaced.

The episode concludes with a forward-looking proposal for restoring Moorish political uni

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Speaker 1: 0:10

what's going on everybody? It's ron brown lmt, the people's fitness professional, aka soul brother number. I'm gonna say soul brother number one right now, until she l gets on next Friday. I'm so brother number three when he gets on. Peace to that brother from Syracuse. Peace to y'all brothers, yajrel, bay and Abdullah. I know we're trying to get straight to the subject. However, this is a family show, so whenever you come on and you build with us on a regular basis, I'm looking at you like family. You know what I'm saying. So, yazrel, right, do you say Yazrel or Israel? I say Yizrel, yizrel, okay, and you're from Kentucky. Indeed, yeah, one of my clients said they're going to Kentucky. I said you know what? I know a brother that lives in. He's from Kentucky and we were just having a conversation about that. You know, it was just interesting. I'm frozen. Yeah, you hear me. You hear me now. You see me now. Yeah, you're back. Yeah, yeah, so, brother, you're back. Yeah, yeah, brother, israel is from Me. Am I frozen?

Speaker 2: 1:32

Yeah, it keeps freezing. What about you?

Speaker 3: 1:34

Nah, he's good, nah, he's not freezing.

Speaker 1: 1:37

Nah, I think it's you.

Speaker 3: 1:39

Yeah, it's you on your end. He hasn't frozen at all.

Speaker 1: 1:43

It's the Kentucky internet man. Yeah, he's, it's you. On your end, he said he hasn't frozen at all. It's, it's the kentucky um internet man yeah, he's.

Speaker 3: 1:48

Yeah, he's fine. Yeah, he's flowing. Oh, that's what it. Yeah, that's what it is.

Speaker 1: 1:54

Yeah, uh-huh all right, so let's let's get into it. Um, we're gonna go into part three. Why shouldn't? Why we shouldn't call ourselves black? Um, this is a. This is a interesting topic. A lot of people would disagree with this. However, the mores are coming from a different perspective that needs to be heard. So here we are, let's build so part three yes, go ahead uh huh, I was gonna read the title.

Speaker 3: 2:25

part three yes, go ahead, brazil.

Speaker 2: 2:27

I was going to read the title.

Speaker 3: 2:28

Part three why we shouldn't call ourselves black. All right Now, Rob, you made that one. I want to let's analyze the why A lot of people will disagree with this. On what basis would a lot of people disagree with this? On what basis would they be coming from?

Speaker 1: 2:53

They would be coming from. The European taught historical accounts of where our people came from. Accounts of where our people came from and um, movies like the roots and stuff like that. That, uh, further verifies what could be a half truth um, um, and that's, you know, and what we learned from school. We learned from elementary. Like I was just building with a brother before I got on here and I was like you know, um, uh, you know, we were taught a certain way in elementary school about so-called black history. So you know, that is the mind that we have, that's the perception that we have, that we came from slave boats and we are black people and our history technically starts after slavery alright.

Speaker 3: 3:51

So let's look at, analyze that we came from slave boats or Africa, but there's no kingdom, no kingdom that ever existed in the continent called black. There's no kingdom that ever existed. No kingdom, no clan, no empire. So somebody said well, that's so, they will not have a factual basis. There will be no factual basis that anyone on this planet would disagree with us. There's no factual basis that anyone on this planet would disagree with us. There's no factual basis. It would be purely emotional, not factual. So what is the factual basis that? The evidentiary basis, the receipts, basis by which they would disagree with us? There is none. There is none.

Speaker 3: 4:51

They couldn't give you documentary evidence. We're not talking about their opinion. We're not talking opinion. We're talking about documentary evidence of existence of an empire, kingdom, clan, tribe, bailet, daylet that existed. You would have to show me treaties. You have to show me treaties. You have to show me letters. You would have to show me constitutions, acts, covenants, conventions. There is none. There's no basis by which, no factual, primary source, documentary evidence, basis by which anyone on this planet would disagree with us. None, it would be purely emotional and that's our problem. I just want us to put that out because that's important. We want to set the tone. We want to set the tone straight, so no one on this planet on this planet will factually, with documentary evidence, disagree with us right as far as black having an empire yeah, that.

Speaker 3: 6:22

That that's why we should be called South Black, meaning that existence or pre-existence of an empire, kingdom, bailout, clan tribe. You would have to show what Treaties you have to show letters. You have to show covenants, acts, conventions. You have to show primary sources letters, correspondence that it existed, the B-L-A-C-K made sources letters, correspondence with that existed at the BLACK.

Speaker 3: 6:49

Yeah, to back up the claim that they yeah because this emotional stuff is not going to get us anywhere. The Europeans are kicking our I won't say the word ASS. They're kicking our ASS, I'm serious. They're kicking our ASS and I really don't have time for them to continue kicking our ASS.

Speaker 4: 7:16

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 7:23

All right, go ahead, israel, we just want to. I want to thank you, ron. A just want to. So that's all. So I want to thank you, ron. So a lot of times what you'll see is we'll take opportunities when you make a comment or statement that you spur, that, that actually spurs the conversation and thoughts. You know, we want to make sure that you know. That doesn't that your comments do not just are not, don't just go by because they need to be discussed and analyzed okay, okay.

Speaker 1: 7:50

So I, I get what you're saying right. There's no, uh, empire called black and things like that. Um, let's say, people reference african empires right Now. That's something to build on, that's something that they could find receipts for and, you know, substantiate their claims with.

Speaker 3: 8:14

No, b-l-a-c-k. We're talking about B-L-A-C-K, the name of the empire. The name of the empire.

Speaker 1: 8:22

Okay.

Speaker 3: 8:23

Not empire. We say the name of the empire B-L-A-C-K. There's no name B-L-A-C-K. Empire, kingdom, tribe, that ever existed in the annals of history. We talking about B-L-A-C-K. We talking about that word right there and that form, that form right there, that form right there. We're not about that word right there and that form, that form right there, that form right there. We're not going to have people play with us. We're not going to have people play with us. Well, abdullah, there is an empire, kimmit, no, no, no, the word is B-L-A-C-K. We're talking about this modern English form. We're not talking about the word Kimmit. We're not talking about the word Kimmit.

Speaker 3: 9:07

They ain't going to play my head. They're not going to play my head. We're not talking about the word Kimmit. We're talking about the name of an empire B-L-A-C-K. That's why I'm spelling it, because I know people play. I've been in these conversations for 33 years. I know all the tricks and trades. I know all the tricks and trades and we're not letting no one escape. No one's going to escape. We're talking about this word right here, this modern English word B-L A-C-K. With this spelling.

Speaker 1: 9:44

Okay, okay. Are you going to keep this slide on? No, we're going to continue.

Speaker 3: 9:50

I just wanted to, because sometimes we have to do that. We have to do that, ron, because I've been in these conversations for over 33 years. They'll play the game. Kimmit means black, so Kimmett means black. You know so-and-so means black and you know Nubian means black. You know they'll play the game and also I'm talking about this form here.

Speaker 4: 10:15

Yo peace. Oh, real quick real, quick Peace to our people, peace to Ron, peace to Abdullah.

Speaker 3: 10:19

Peace brother.

Speaker 1: 10:28

Peace brother, peace brother, mike. Before we go any further, he's standing on business, as they say. Now I want to say this Just to let everyone know on our page, abdullah and Yisrael has a section it's called Civil Letter, so all of their videos. You can go straight there to Civil Letter, and then I suggest you do that so you can like follow the way this program has been going. It's a whole streamline, right. So just follow. Watch every video on Civil Letter. It's in the playlist. All right, continue.

Speaker 3: 11:06

All right, continue All right, go ahead.

Speaker 2: 11:13

So review. There are those who claim that more is not the nationality, national origin and national identity of a people, that more is a word that means black and calling someone a more is the same as calling someone black, but in another language the word black more appears in literature during the 1500s. Why was the term black more, as used during the 1500s, formed into the compound word blackamore during the 1600s and used heavily in literature during the 1600s, 1700s and 1800s? The compound word blackamoor appears in a vast amount of literature written in the 1600s, 1700s and 1800s. The compound word blackamoor was used interchangeably with the words Negro and Ethiopian in literature during the 1600s, 1700s and 1800s. In the colonial records of the Spanish crown, portugal crown and French crown in North America, central America and South America, mexico, brazil, south Florida, french Louisiana, north Carolina, it reads Nacian Mariska De Tierra De Moros.

Speaker 3: 13:05

Yes, so that's. We just want to set the tone for review, and these points were Made during part one and part Two.

Speaker 1: 13:16

Yo shout out to y'all For really taking this like this is like this is official right here, the way y'all doing it.

Speaker 3: 13:24

This is peace, anyway, go ahead yeah, we serious with this man because we want the people to grow, so we put time in preparing these lessons more, more, more, more, more, more, more.

Speaker 2: 13:43

All right, so Moore, moore, moore, moore, moreau, moray, mordove. The traces of our Black ancestry are visibly existent in a hundred surnames David McRitchie. Some family names that designate an ancestor who has skin darker than his companions are Morel and Moro. If the ancestor had a very dark complexion, the name was likely to become Moore, m-o-h-r. Schwartz, schwartz, schwartz or Schwarz in Germany. Source Elsdon, cole, Smith, smith. American surnames 1986.

Speaker 2: 14:25

In Shakespeare's time, the audience at the Globe accepted the word as meaning a black man, and either then or later on it became tautologically extended into Blackamore. The common people of the country are not likely to have known much about ultra-British Moors, not enough, at any rate, to have made the word an everyday term for a Black man. Nor can the Moors of heraldry be explained sufficiently by the theory that the founders of families bearing Mo more as supporters yeah, that's it right there. So this is Jeremiah 13, 23. Can the black more change his skin, or the leopard his spots? Then may ye also do good that are accustomed to do evil. This is the 1599 Geneva Bible. It was, however, from Spain and not from Arabia that a knowledge of Eastern mathematics first came into Western Europe. The Moors had established their rules in Spain in 747, and by the 10th or 11th century had attained a high degree of civilization.

Speaker 2: 15:49

Ww. Ross Ball A Short Account of the History of Mathematics 1888, courier, dover, 1960, page 164. 1960, page 164. This is Ross Ball. This is a portrait of a moor and a white turban on the right side and down here it says own a museum quality handmade reproduction of portrait of a moor and a white turban by Eugene Verbiakovan. Own a museum quality handmade reproduction of Portrait of a Moor in a White Turban by Eugene Verbiak-Colvin, 1798 through 1881. All right. New Britain Museum of America. New Britain Museum of America.

Speaker 2: 16:52

Art Elizabeth Norse, moorish Prince, 1897. Oil on canvas 32 by 23. Three fourth inch oil painting. Harriet russell stanley fund and through exchange, 1981.68. Morris prince, also titled head of an algerian. Uh, I don't know what that says is. The strong head of an algerian is the strongest and most dramatic of Norse's North African subjects. Ok, the painting depicts a traditionally custom that confidently pose young African who rests one hand firmly on his hip and holds a cigarette in the other. He wears a white turban around his head and several layers of clothing wrapped loosely around his body and several layers of clothing wrapped loosely around his body, blue, green and yellow fabrics and color accents to his essentially monochromatic robe, and a vivid red waistband contributes an especially bright note.

Speaker 1: 17:59

Real quick. I just want to make a note. Okay, so I'm studying a lot, right, different things. Now I'm studying genealogy. Now genealogy goes through surnames right now.

Speaker 1: 18:17

This is funny that we spoke about surnames this evening, because my perception of where surnames came from was pretty much what the European told me. You know what I'm saying, or not what the European told me, what was taught in schools and what was taught by hearsay and things like that, versus me actually taking a deep dive into the CERN names and genealogy and how it works. The CERN names point to the, not the phenotype, right? So it will. It will point to the, maybe the color of the skin or the type of garb people wore and things like that. That's what the CER surnames will point to, like, for instance, brown will point to. You know the fact that I have brown brown skin, if you want to call it that, right? So brown skin, and also brown clothing and things of that nature. So the surnames, I'm realizing, are the keys, are the keys to find out exactly you know who your ancestors were and how they traveled, and things like that throughout the years. Peace.

Speaker 3: 19:33

Well, we'll do a presentation on that, ron, but it's more extensive than that. Some of what you're saying is true, but that's very limited, you know. So we'll do it because of the lack of time. We will do a presentation on that. Some of what you're saying is true, but that's very limited, so we'll do it because of the lack of time. We'll do a presentation on that, you have. I'll just do a categorization real quickly. You have, with our clan names. You have patronyms. You have patronyms. You have occupational names or trade names. You have place names, so they're classified. So when you're dealing with surnames or last names, you're looking at the classifications as well, you know so, like I said, so it's more extensive than what you're saying, but because of the time lack of time Israel and I will do a presentation on that. In fact, we'll make it part of the series. We'll make that part of the series.

Speaker 3: 20:34

You know, names are based in nationality, descent, denoting a clan or trade names. Europeans did not have names during the medieval period. During the medieval period or middle ages between 711, that's Moorish rulership during the time of Moorish rulership in Europe, that's known as the middle ages or medieval period, europeans did not have last names. We'll get into that. So because of the lack of time, we need to do a whole presentation on that. Because I've studied that extensively, I can go in on that.

Speaker 1: 21:10

Gotcha.

Speaker 3: 21:15

And that field Real quickly. That field is called I'm a nominee, I'm a nominee. That's a field, a study, study of names that's called I'm a nominee. I'm a nominee is that's a field, a study, study of names that's called I'm a nominee, I'm a nominee, you can get a PhD in I'm a nominee. In fact, I met a sister who started a school of charter school in Camden, new Jersey, and she had a PhD in I'm a nominee. I said, oh, since you said that of course I knew because I studied it, I studied it. I'm a nominee.

Speaker 1: 21:43

Right, right. So, like this brother is saying right here, even to this day, in and from now, westernly, so-called as Africans say swarthy linguistically and dialectically. So that's what I'm saying, like swarthy swarch, just like how you were breaking down earlier. Swarthy, from what I remember, can mean also like copper tone oh, no, I'm saying what you're saying is correct.

Speaker 3: 22:14

I said that, but no, no, let me say it again. Let me say it again. So what you're saying is correct, that's just limited. It's more expansive than that. Let me say it again. Let me say it again. So what you're saying is correct, that's just limited. It's more expansive than that. And I just gave, for example, I just gave classification. I didn't want people, I didn't want the audience, I didn't want the audience to walk away on what you were saying. That that is what that is limited to that. It's more expansive. Ok, yeah, all right, that's just to that. It's more expansive. Okay, yeah, all right, that's just a category. You're just giving us a category of surnames. You have place names, I, you know you. You have patron names or father names Johnson, edmund, o'neill, all right. So, yeah, we. So we just say that's all. I just want to be clear for the audience. That's just what you're saying is correct. But that's limited. That's just one category. Got you, got you.

Speaker 2: 23:09

We're good on that. Got you All right. So the Morris Chief, 1878. Edward Charlemont, austrian, 1848 through 1906. Edward Charlemont used studio props and a paid model to evoke a world of luxury and power and an architectural setting that resembles the Islamic Palace of the Alhambra in Granada, spain. The canvas was once called the Alhambra Guard. This work demonstrates the romantic lens through which white Europeans regarded the traditions, peoples and places of Muslim Spain and the French colonies in West Africa. Although Charlemagne painted few African subjects and was best known for portraits and depictions of European historical subjects, his singular ability to convey a model's personality and to suggest different textures and surfaces is evident here. The name of the model who posed for this commanding figure standing in a place in a palace doorway may never be known. The artist had recently come to Paris from Vienna and was little known when he exhibited this work to great acclaim at the 1878.

Speaker 2: 24:33

Oh yeah it's cut off so yeah.

Speaker 1: 24:39

Oh man, see, I opened up a can of worms about this man. See, I opened up a can of worms about this man. Okay, abdullah, when you said Europeans didn't have last names, were you referring to the hybrids or?

Speaker 3: 25:00

The Avians Donald Trump and them Donald Trump and them Donald Trump and them the Abbeons. They didn't have last names Johnson, son of John, son of John. So that's what's known as. If you study surnames in Europe during the middle Evil period or Middle Ages, that's 700 to 1500. That's known as the Middle Ages or Medieval period. That is the time period of Moorish rulership in Europe. There's a three-value book the Moorish Empire in Europe by SP Scott, bibles 1, 2, and 3orish Empire in Europe by SP Scott, volumes one, two and three. All right, that's history. But I studied extensively on monomony, which is the study of names. You have place names but, like I said, because of time, like I said, we'll put together a presentation, we'll make it a part of. Like I said, we have to put together a presentation and we'll make it a part of this series.

Speaker 1: 26:06

Oh, we got to go into that, brother. That's the piece right there.

Speaker 3: 26:10

Oh yeah, we got to go because since we opened it up, we got definitely, but because of the time I can't speak so extensively on it right now. Because of the time.

Speaker 2: 26:25

So you're at a Philadelphia Museum of Art. This is the Morris Chief, a painting of the Morris Chief, dub or Dub Black Dark Duff D-U-F-F. Dub Black Dark Duff D-U-F-F. Celt of dark complexion, er and Gale Dub D-U-B-H. Dark Black Duff D-U-F-F. A surname adopted from the Celtic, in which language the word means black. Sebald in his history of Fife says that as would this be nigger or niger, that as niger and rufus were names of families amongst the Romans, from the color and complexion of men. So it seems Duff was from the swarthy and black color of those of the tribe or clan of Mac Duff, as you were saying. Macch, that would mean son, so the son of duff yes, that's a.

Speaker 3: 27:47

That's a one of the. That's a. That's a patronym, mech, mech old and O'Neill or Raleigh. Those are known as class of cod, as patronym named after father, son of yeah, done as Pachynimp named after father, son of Dunn D-U-N-N, a Celt, and Celt of dark, of dark brown complexion.

Speaker 2: 28:19

So Dunn is also spelled D-U-N-N-E, and then we have Middle English Dunn, also spelled D-U-N-N-E, and then we have Middle English Dunn, old English Dunn, as a noun, welsh D-W-N. Dunn Eagles, irish Dunn Dunn Eagles. Gaelic Dunn D-O-N-N. Irish Don Don D-O-N-N. Kennedy. Descripted from the Gaelic word Canadette, canadich Meaning grim headed, a surname found in Southwest Scotland Since the 12th century. Meaning grim headed, a surname found in southwest Scotland since the 12th century, the posterity of Archibald the grim may have become grames or grims or grimes or grimes. Others may have been the founders of clans known by various surnames of various origins other than Douglas. And it is worth remarking that one of the equivalents for a black man, namely Grim or Grime and even this distinction vanishes when one reflects that grime strictly interpreted as more or black man.

Speaker 3: 29:51

So now we're saying why doesn't that appear in literature today? More or black man? Why don't you just see? Why don't you see more at all? Why don't you see what we just read, what he just read? Why is it not? Why is that not predominant in literature today? More or black man, more or black, more Negro, ethiopian Like? Why is that that is predominant? It was, it was predominant in literature during the 15, 16, 17, 1800s. Why not today? Why not today?

Speaker 4: 30:25

paper. Genocide is to remove your history, erase your prominence, your stance in the world, do you?

Speaker 3: 30:31

value it.

Speaker 3: 30:33

Absolutely. We come up with receipts. This is what they say More or black man, like. Why don't you see that today, more or black man More or negro, more, you know, if you look up negro and you'll see black or more In. You know, if you look up Negro and you'll see Blackamore In some dictionaries, you look up the word Negro, you say you'll see what Blackamore. But why don't you see that? Today, though? Why don't you see this was predominant. This was not every now and then. This was predominant in literature, bibles, dictionaries, plays, short stories and conversations.

Speaker 3: 31:22

Hey Blackmore, hey Tony Moore, hey Tony Moore, hey Blackmore. What do you hear today? What have you heard over the past 70-80 years? Hey Tony Moore, hey Tony Moore, hey Black Moore, like what? What are you here today? What are you here today? What have you heard over the past 70, 80 years, past 70, 80 years? Hey Black man, hey Black man, hey Black, hey, hey, light-skinned Black man, dark-skinned Black man. You wouldn't have heard no light-skinned black man. You would have heard what Tawny Moore, terrence Howard, during the 1600s would have been referred to as a Tawny Moore. Wesley Snipes during the 1600s would have been referred to as a Black-a-moore. Why not that today? What happened? Are people unaware of this? Black, black, black, black, black black, light-skinned black man, brown man, dark-skinned black man. You know red bone, I mean. That means I'm the same. So they don't think in terms of nationality. When it comes to ourselves, we'll say Chinese food, french fries, french poodle, german shepherd. We'll say nationalities, we'll call dogs. We'll call dogs a nationality. German shepherd, french poodle, dogs, that's a fact.

Speaker 3: 32:57

Dogs A dog French poodle, german shepherd. English poodle, but you're black. But what I'm saying is there's no thinking. Him and my brothers and sisters I'm not insulting our people. We are great thinkers, we come from great thinkers. We are all that In a bag of chips, my brothers and sisters. We have just been socially engineered. So there's no thinking. So when we say we're black, there's no thinking that. So when we say we're black, we're black, there's no thinking that's called social engineering. They train like they train animals.

Speaker 1: 33:38

Listen. All I gotta say is I've been studying so many different angles and, man, the social engineering that they put on us is diabolical. Yes, there are so many layers to this and those layers connect with other layers. Connect with other layers.

Speaker 4: 34:03

You know what it is man has to go back into, as Martinez de Pasquale said reintegration to the higher self. You have to go back. Woo Say that again. Mikey Fever Say that again Reintegration to your higher self.

Speaker 1: 34:19

That's what it's all about, brother.

Speaker 3: 34:23

Give us the. That's an acronym, so let the audience know what that stands for.

Speaker 4: 34:30

Reintegration no ISO. Oh, you're talking to me.

Speaker 3: 34:36

Yeah, you, Mikey, you have ISO. You said ISO Let the audience know.

Speaker 4: 34:41

No, oh, you're talking about ISO. No, I was talking about reintegration. I said what um?

Speaker 3: 34:45

You mentioned ISO. What does ISO stand for? I didn't say.

Speaker 4: 34:49

ISO. Oh wow, you mentioned ISO. What does ISO stand for? I didn't say ISO, oh wow, nah, I didn't hear anything. Yeah, I didn't hear anything it's all good.

Speaker 3: 34:55

Sometimes I do that, sometimes I hear things yeah, there you go. I thought I heard ISO three times alright, alright, it's all good.

Speaker 2: 35:07

Alright, alright, let's all good, alright, alright, let's continue. So, stephanie Nadalo, nadalo, figure two. Duke Ferdinando. Duke Ferdinando and the Four Moors I Quatro Mori. Duke Ferdinando and the Four Moors I Quattro Mori by Giovanni Bandini, pietro Taka, century 1616 and century 1623, through 26 respectively. Marble and bronze. Livorno, italy, photographed by Asinodalo. Used with permission.

Speaker 4: 35:55

Shoot this happened.

Speaker 3: 35:58

And at the bottom of that is a chain of four more. So you see, there it says quarto. So I'm just saying more.

Speaker 4: 36:08

Four yeah.

Speaker 3: 36:11

So now what you'll see? You'll have a quote, unquote African scholar will reconstruct and says the statues of the four blacks, see. So they'll say well, the statues of the four blacks. So somebody who have never saw this they wouldn't know it's not called the statue of the four blacks, it's called what that's what it's called. So now somebody doesn't know that. So they're reconstructing See, that's part of this To maintain the social engineering. All right, continue. Israel. Israel.

Speaker 2: 37:03

More, more, a more a black, a blackamoor, a Negro, an Ethiopian Moors. In the Middle Ages, in the 17th century, moors were supposed to be Black and the word was used as a generic name for all dark-skinned races, as equivalent to Negro or Blackamoor today. Blackamoor today. Morris King, italian. Nepal's Metropolitan Museum of Art.

Speaker 1: 37:42

This is just wild man. It is, it's beautiful. This is just wild, bro.

Speaker 2: 37:49

What does it mean, in international law regarding dehumanization, denationalization and genocidal claims, for people to claim that they willingly, knowingly, intentionally and voluntarily use words such as black, negro, color, african-american to which to identify themselves, having no connections to any nationality, land slash, geography, national sovereignty, nation state slash country, national constitution, national flag, national seal, national character, national consciousness, national pride, ancestral consanguinity, genealogy, descent, national origin, pedigree, parentage, lineage, kingdom, empire, clan, tribe, caliphate, emirate, balakate, delicate. So here we have the Sankofa bird in the center with the phazon. Let me get a screenshot of this so I'll give you a little detail about the Sankofa bird. So the Sankofa bird is a symbol deeply rooted in the culture of the Akan people of Ghana and West Africa. It represents the concept of learning from the past to build a better future, emphasizing the importance of reflection and drawing wisdom from one's history.

Speaker 2: 39:23

The symbol, often depicted as a bird with his head turned backward to retrieve an egg, embodies the idea that it is not wrong to learn from the past. So with this, the egg holds Morris nationality and is standing on nationality. So it's standing on nationality. Nationality is interrelated to the following principles. So the Sankofa bird is looking back to grab the Moorish nationality, National sovereignty at the top. To the left, we have self-determination, self-governance, national consciousness, national self-consciousness, national pride, national culture and national character. And to the right, we have sovereign identity of the state, the state's identity, constitutional identity, constitutional name, national name, national identity, constitutional self-governance.

Speaker 4: 40:31

So these are elements of nationality powerful wow, so no one.

Speaker 2: 40:38

If you're not talking this, you know these elements.

Speaker 1: 40:40

You're not talking nationality respectively okay, this brother right here said king james a. Uh, a hebrew king took out the word more from 1560 geneva bible and replaced it with hebrew in 1611. Uh, king james version, because he was a hebrew king researched the word more in the Geneva Bible. Yeah, I think the Moors put that up early on in the podcast.

Speaker 3: 41:15

Ethiopian. He replaced the word Ethiopian.

Speaker 2: 41:18

Yeah, we showed that in the first.

Speaker 3: 41:19

Yeah, not the word Hebrew, it's Ethiopian. Yeah, that's for correct.

Speaker 2: 41:26

Yeah, he was saying that, King James is a Hebrew.

Speaker 3: 41:29

Oh, then I misread it then, but we want to let the audience know that. The audience know it was the 1560 Geneva Bible, blackmore and then the 1599 Blackmore, and it was interchanged. It used the same verse as Ethiopian, so that's those who haven't seen this before. It's clear that it's a word Ethiopian that appears in the 1611 King James Version Bible. So replacing Amor is correct, but I just wanted to replace with Ethiopia yeah alright.

Speaker 2: 42:14

So this is the growth of the United States 1783 through 1853 1783. On the right side we have the original 13 colonies from Great Britain by Treaty of paris 1783. So united states acquired territorial sovereignty, or, pardon me, the 13 original states acquired territorial sovereignty by the way of this treaty, uh, with great britain, the treaty of paris of 1783.

Speaker 1: 42:47

This is crazy, crazy man. Yeah, man, this is blowing my mind from what I'm seeing here, what I'm studying and all it's all coming together. But anyway, go ahead y'all.

Speaker 2: 43:00

So we have the Louisiana Purchase, bought from France. United States bought Louisiana territory from France. United States bought Louisiana territory from France. France ceded territorial sovereignty to the United States via Louisiana Purchase, treaty of 1803. We have the Mexican concession from Mexico by Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, 1848. We have the Oregon Country from Great Britain, 1846. A precedence to Great Britain, 1818. Ceded by Great Britain, 1818. The Gadsden Purchase, down here at the bottom, bought from Mexico 1853.

Speaker 2: 43:57

Texas Annexation, independent Republic, 1845. Seated by Spain. This little portion of land right here, seated by Spain, 1818. Dates annexed by United States at the bottom 1810 and 1813. Florida session, from Spain, 1819. Seated by Great Britain. Webster Ashburton Treaty, 1842. So these treaties is how the United States got on the map. It's the reason why the United States exists on the map today, when we look at this area of land, we see United States. Let's say that. But it's through the session treaties Under subjugation and colonization. So yeah, and this is the element, this is why the United States was able to do that. What would I just mention? Because of territorial sovereignty to do that. What I just mentioned, because of territorial sovereignty, territorial sovereignty is an international law application and these are the elements of territorial sovereignty on the tentacles of the octopus. To the left we have acquisition of territory, loss of sovereignty, boundary session, treaties, territorial jurisdiction, law session, change of sovereignty of a people in the united states, constitution, acquisition of nationality through subjugation and session change of sovereignty and its effects of the nationality of the inhabitants.

Speaker 4: 45:48

Oh wow. So is it safe to say that that's the reason why the US has embassies in other countries? Is it like expanding tentacle on these other lands where they? Could influence their politics.

Speaker 3: 46:02

No, no, we're talking here, but we talk embassies. That's through treaties. The United States has negotiated treaties with various nation states, you know, entering into diplomatic relationships, and they're able to set up embassies and consulates. It's not because of this.

Speaker 4: 46:25

All right.

Speaker 3: 46:25

You know you ask you this, yeah, not because of what we're talking.

Speaker 2: 46:31

But they wouldn't be able to do that right, they wouldn't be able to set up those treaties or establish treaties if they didn't exercise territorial sovereignty absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 3: 46:38

Yeah, I just wanted to be clear. Exactly that, and Israel is correct with that. Alright, that gave them the launching ability to do that, you know alright, gotcha, but those that gave them the launching ability to do that.

Speaker 3: 46:53

You know, yeah, but the treaties that's on those maps, that are listed on those maps, don't give them the authority to set up embassies. All those treaties did was cede land, transfer French territorial sovereignty to the United States, spanish territorial sovereignty to the United States, and so now what it did was gave the United States authority to what Control the boundaries as well as the inhabitants. That's what make it clear. That's what those treaties did. If we talk about embassies and consulate, those are other treaties with France or China, or Bukhanot and Okinawa, or Pina Faso or Mali, etc. Or Germany, right, but not those treaties that we mentioned. Yeah, I just want to be just, yeah, clear. But H?

Speaker 2: 47:55

R I O's right yeah different categories of treaties.

Speaker 4: 48:00

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 48:00

Yeah, got it, got it, good question. There's no dumb question, brother, because it gives the opportunity to clear things up.

Speaker 1: 48:08

Right right.

Speaker 2: 48:15

Right.

Speaker 2: 48:15

So territorial sovereignty, the exclusive when I'm lowest up so everybody can see uh territorial sovereignty, the exclusive authority over a defined geographic area and its change, like a shift in the governing power, can significantly impact the inhabitants. This change, whether through cession, annexation or other means, often alters the inhabitants' political status, civil rights and even their nationality. The new sovereign may determine the rights of the residents and they may become subjects of the new state. Effects of change of sovereignty on inhabitants. Political status the new sovereign can decide the political rights of the inhabitants, including suffrage and other political participation rights. Civil rights the new sovereign may determine the civil rights of the inhabitants, potentially changing existing laws and regulations.

Speaker 2: 49:08

Nationality Individuals may become subjects or citizens of the new state, impacting their nationality and international legal standing. Legal obligations the new sovereign may enforce its laws within the seated territory, potentially altering legal obligations and processes. Cultural and social changes A change of sovereignty can lead to cultural shifts, as the new ruling body may introduce new customs, values and traditions. Economic changes the new sovereign may implement different economic policies, affecting trade, taxation and economic opportunities within the territory. Resistance and conflict Inhabitants may resist the new sovereign, leading to potential conflicts and unrest.

Speaker 1: 49:56

Okay, now this is. There's a question I was going to answer myself, because I have my own perception on how this can actually help us as individuals and collectives. So it always starts with yourself first and then the collective. So it always starts with yourself first and then the collective. But I want you brothers to answer this how knowing all of this is going to get the Europeans off our back in 2025? For me, the European, I don't even think. I don't even see that the European is on my back, because I'm able to do whatever I want to do. I'm able to freely move and walk and talk and do whatever I want to do, do open up business and read things like this and have a podcast and talk to brothers like this to give us the knowledge. So I, you know, I don't see how the Europeans stopping us, but I think we're stopping ourselves. But, yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 3: 50:47

Well, I disagree with you, but that's all right. I disagree All right because I disagree All right. So let me give you this, ron, let me give you this All right the farm that your great, great great parents had, that the Europeans took from you, your parents from them. The farm was not able to pass down to you your birthright. That was stolen from your family line 150 years ago. 150 years ago, your birthright was stolen. Your family's birthright was stolen, which inhibited them to pass that down. The fact that you're working is why they mean that if you had that, if you had that was stolen from your family 150 years ago, where would you be now?

Speaker 1: 51:48

Oh, you want me to answer that honestly. That was stolen 150 years ago. It depends. It depends on the person, because you can have a whole empire and and mess it up because your mind is not right, you don't have the right, proper information. But I'm talking about where would you do?

Speaker 3: 52:06

I like? Because you just said you go to work every day. Why? Why do you go to work every day? Because the 150 years ago you do conquests, do Spanish, french, dutch, portuguese conquests.

Speaker 1: 52:26

That's why you go to work every day, because they've stolen our birthright okay, I don't like I said, I don't know if you want me to answer that I'm just saying because you mentioned that they're not on your back, because I'm looking at, because you mentioned that they're not on your back, okay, because.

Speaker 3: 52:43

I'm looking at. They've taken our land and farms and stuff Inventions and they patent children and natural resources. Okay, before you were born. We're talking about 200 years before you were born.

Speaker 1: 53:03

Okay.

Speaker 3: 53:06

I just wanted to make that connection for the audience too.

Speaker 1: 53:10

Okay, I hear you Definitely, for sure, I get your point. However, what I do is like a different type of thing, though, like I do what I love, so it wasn't like I had to do this because I had to feed myself. I chose to do what I'm doing and I love doing what I'm doing, so it's really not work for me. But, yeah, I get you, though.

Speaker 3: 53:35

I get what you're saying you got, once you got what I'm saying. Once you got what I'm saying, we good, we can move on. You got what I'm saying.

Speaker 2: 53:40

All right, you got the point yeah, all right so showing the current state and condition of our people. Application of international law, territorial sovereignty a nation's exclusive right to govern its territory and control its natural resources without external interference, a principle that underpins state independence and autonomy. A treaty is the vehicle in which territorial sovereignty is ceded, transferred, conveyed. A treaty is not an application of law. So, land, boundary, land, boundary session treaties. Examples Number one, article 1 and 2. In the 1783 Definitive Peace Treaty between United States and Great Britain, great Britain cedes British territorial sovereignty to the United States. Number two, article 1. In the 1803 Louisiana Purchase Treaty between United States and France, france cedes French territorial sovereignty to the United States. Number three France cedes French territorial sovereignty to the United States. Number three, article 2,.

Speaker 2: 54:48

In the 1819 Adams-Onis Treaty between the United States and Spain, spain cedes Spanish territorial sovereignty to the United States. Number four, article 5,. In the 1848 Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo between the United States and the United States of Mexico, mexico cedes Mexican territorial sovereignty to the United States. Number five, article one. In the 1867 Alaska Treaty of Cession between United States and Russia, russia cedes Russian territorial sovereignty to the United States. These are references. You can check every article.

Speaker 3: 55:22

You know every treaty yeah, and we showed the map. We showed the map he just wanted to provide to you. So we're gonna get. So we got, we got six minutes left and we'll have. We have time to read this one page, greg israel well, I I can.

Speaker 1: 55:36

I can extend it a little bit as well, all right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I can extend it for sure. All right, I figured it out. That's why Mike went off, because he's going to go on the other one.

Speaker 3: 55:48

All right, so we can have discussion. We can have discussion on this, all right, good.

Speaker 2: 55:55

All right. So this is. Let me blow this up so we can all see this. This is Shamalikabay's proposal for the call for the call for the restoration of National Moorish political unity through political legitimacy, the will of the people, consent of the people, good government, large-scale community outreach and network. Shem Malikabay's public statement to the people Greeting my proposal and plan for the restoration of national Moors political unity is rooted in the past structures of ancient governments. The proposal and plan for restoring national political unity amongst our people, the Moors, most of whom are classified as black, negro, colored African-American in the United States Census Bureau and the Commerce Department, is to facilitate political legitimacy, consent of the people through large scale community approach to unconscious mores and the network among the conscious mores. Having political bodies are vital to cut to contribute to the formation and expression of the will of the people. Having a network vehicle that creates the space for the formation and expression of the will of the people is a fundamental principle to facilitate in good environment and the basis to political legitimacy good government, good, good government good government, okay, so having a

Speaker 2: 57:31

network vehicle that creates the space for the formation and expression of the will of the people is a fundamental principle to facilitating good government and the basis to political legitimacy. The political action of Moroccan slash Moorish political bodies coming together to form a central governing body composed of many Moorish body politics to function as a Moorish national provisional temporary governing body to serve as a voice for our people in the international arena is much needed to address the systematic generational mass denationalization and subjugation of our people, the Moors, as well as the generational European colonization of our lands, known to the world as North America, south America, central America and Americana Central America and Americana. An interpolitical constitution will be formed from our Moorish political governing bodies by sending up representatives elected by the Moorish Moroccan people or by supreme authority, who will exercise collectively the sovereign power and authority in a provisional capacity that the Moorish days bays, emirs, caliphs, pashas and bashals indigenous aboriginal people operating in unity with Moorish emperors, slash sultans once exercised before the dismantling of our Moorish empire and the usurpation of our Moorish sovereignty due to conquest, subjugation and colonization by the empire of Spain, empire of Portugal, kingdom of France, kingdom of England slash Great Britain, kingdom of the Netherlands, dutch Republic, kingdom of Sweden, denmark, sardinia and Belgium and Belgium. When the sovereign power of an empire, kingdom or nation that ruled over a host of kingdoms or provinces in their territorial domiciles diminish, the people of the empire, kingdom or nation possess the inherent and divine right to return to the international law, law of nations, principles of post-luminium reversion to sovereignty, recovery of lost sovereignty, self-determination and autonomy. When Moorish emperors relinquish their sovereign power over the Moorish kingdoms in the territorial domiciles they once controlled, we, the Moors, have a right to govern among ourselves and form an interpolitical assembly with an interpolitical constitution that would act or take the place of the sovereign power that the Moroccan, slash Moorish emperors once claimed. The interpolitical constitution will be the structure, will be the structured governmental body that regulates authority over all the Moorish political body, politics, slash states. By the structured language and the interpolitical instrument. By the structured language and the interpolitical instrument, the interpolitical constitution will position us politically to reestablish diplomacy and consular relations with the Empire of Spain, empire of Portugal, kingdom of France, kingdom of England, slash Great Britain, kingdom of the Netherlands, dutch Republic, kingdom of Sweden, kingdom of the Netherlands, dutch Republic, kingdom of Sweden, denmark, sardinia and Belgium, with which we negotiated treaties during the 1500s, 1600s, 1700s and 1800s. Moore's treaties proved that the names Morocco and Moore were predominant names that dominated the military engagements, wars, commercial trading, mercantile, merchant, seafaring, diplomatic and consular strategies, captivity and ransoming strategies of the Empire of Spain, empire of Portugal, kingdom of France, kingdom of England, slash Great Britain, kingdom of the Netherlands, dutch Republic, kingdom of Sweden, denmark, sardinia and Belgium.

Speaker 2: 1:01:40

Between the 700s and the 1800s, the enforcement of the ancient international law principle of restoring a people held against their will to their original condition before being placed into slavery, subjugation, servitude, captivity and bondage, known as post-luminium, will place our people on the proper road to recover our most lost estates, inheritance, land rights, natural resources, sovereignty, treaty protections, place in the family of nations, nationality, names, history, languages, genealogy, ancestral festivals, clothing, holidays, rituals, dances, celebrations, ceremonies, philosophy and science of healing with the use of sound and herbs in science of astronomy, the law of the stars. The United States Emancipation Proclamation Emancipation Proclamation 1863, 13th Amendment 1865, 14th Amendment 1868, and 15th Amendment 1870, have been used as political tools to disguise the continuation of the slavery, subjugation and captivity of our people. These United States legislations during the 1860s do not constitute the enforcement of the international law, law of nations, remedy of restoring and returning a people held against their will under the conditions of slavery, subjugation, servitude, captivity and bondage. Post-lominium is the international law principle of restoring and returning a people to their original condition before captivity, slavery and subjugation. It is evident that the United States Emancipation Proclamation 1863, 13th Amendment 1865, 14th Amendment 1868, and 15th Amendment 1870 have not restored and returned us to our original condition before captivity, slavery and subjugation.

Speaker 2: 1:03:44

The United States has committed human rights violations by the generations of systematic mass denationalization of our people. The United States does not have a structured foundation set up to rightfully and properly place in a census, transmit the natural living being after birth of the indigenous Moroccan dash, moorish, consequent in their system of records to protect and safeguard the natural living beings, nationality and birth rights. The United States, the United States has committed human rights violations by the generations. I just read that one. Okay, so the provisional temporary government will allow for the facilitation of formation and expression of the will of the people and political legitimacy as the path to permanent government and the re-entering the family of nations under the reversion to sovereignty as an old and original state. This political structure will position us politically to effectively address the United States human rights violations by the generations of systematic mass denationalization of our people and the disguising of the continuation of slavery under Emancipation Proclamation 1863, 13th Amendment 1865, 14th Amendment 1868, and 15th Amendment 1870 to the international community of nations, family of nations, people.

Speaker 2: 1:05:26

The word people, used in a political sense, is the repository of the sovereignty of the people and the source of government power. I propose a plan to facilitate the restoration of the exercise of this inherent sovereign power that embodies the collective unity of our people operating in political governmental structure. It is vitally important to facilitate a political process whereby our people, who still remain unconscious and classified as Black, negro, colored and African-American in the United States Census Bureau in the Commerce Department, can be a part of the will of the people once they become conscious of their Moorish nationality and birthright. A political process that does not facilitate the formation and expression of our people, who are unconscious of their Moorish nationality and birthright, is not aligned with the principles of political legitimacy, the will of the people, the consent of the people, self-determination and good government.

Speaker 2: 1:06:34

Moors and Masonry. Part 1, is an extensive research and study in the history of Moorish treaties, military engagements, wars, captivity and ransom strategies, diplomacy and consular relations between the Moroccan Empire, including Algiers, tripoli and Tunis, and the European kingdoms Empire of Spain, empire of Portugal, kingdom of France, kingdom of England, great Britain, kingdom of the Netherlands, dutch Republic, kingdom of Sweden, denmark, sardinia and Belgium during the 1500s, 1600s, 1700s and 1800s. Let us reconnect to our ancient knowledge of divine law, the unseen slash, invisible world, and natural law as expressed by the all-seeing eye. Visible world and natural law as expressed by the all-seeing eye, but exploring our ancient knowledge of universal law, mentalism, cause and effect, correspondence, polarity, rhythm, gender and opposite-stache, duality, as well as our ancient knowledge of geometry as the blueprint for creation, as expressed symbolically as the compass and square with the G in the center and the geometric shapes on stained glass windows of churches, mosques and synagogues. That's the last slide.

Speaker 3: 1:07:55

Yes, all right. All right, we want to end with a bang clear up everything we actually spoke on, you know yeah, exactly summed it up, gave it remedy laid it out.

Speaker 1: 1:08:14

I don't know who. This is okay, alright, so we gotta so. I don't even want to address it anyway. So, uh, um, yeah, this is um deeper than people may understand, because maybe they are so locked into their own way of thinking, which is fine, because we're all individuals. However, sometimes you should empty the cup so it could be filled with something else. Sometimes you need different information to maybe add on to the information that you have already, so that things go full circle and you understand. So, yeah, I've been studying, like I said, and this is great information. This is peace. Who wrote this piece?

Speaker 3: 1:09:12

again right here, shem and I wrote this, yeah, shem. In 2000 Shem wrote the page and a half a page and a quarter and in 2023, I added a page and three quarters and put it in my book Moise Macy, part 2, chapter 8, in Moise Macy, part 2. This letter appears.

Speaker 1: 1:09:37

Okay, okay, so that's a book that I have to purchase, okay, okay, so that's a that's a book that, uh, I have to purchase Okay.

Speaker 3: 1:09:44

That's actually that's part two Part two oh yeah.

Speaker 4: 1:09:50

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:09:53

Okay, all right, uh, with that being said, thank you, brothers, for coming out this evening. I really appreciate you. Uh, if you can keep, if you brothers, for coming out this evening. I really appreciate you. I, if you can keep, if we can keep building on this.

Speaker 3: 1:10:05

Yeah, we, the fact is, right now we're talking, we do a part four. We were talking about that today, about a couple hours ago. Yeah, In fact, to get my book, the one that Israel picked up. Uh, part, part, part two go to mooresandmasonryorg Mooresandmasonryorg.

Speaker 1: 1:10:20

Mooresandmasonryorg. I got to put that up next time.

Speaker 3: 1:10:26

Yeah, we can have that up next time. You can have that scrolling across the screen. Yep, yeah, I'll remind you.

Speaker 1: 1:10:33

Well, I have this already. I have the Gmail, but next time, Replace it with my website, moorsabasementcom.

Speaker 3: 1:10:45

All right, so next time Dot org, but I'll remind you.

Speaker 1: 1:10:48

Yeah, okay, okay, all right. With that being said, we're out of here. We're on the next podcast, peace to the brothers for coming out this evening, and you know know I enjoyed this one, I enjoyed everyone, and I can't wait for the next one. We're out. Peace, peace, Peace.