The Science and Mystery of Haitian Vodou - Dieu Devan

The veil between myth and reality lifts as Haitian Voodoo high priest JDevon777 guides us through the sacred world of this ancestral spiritual tradition. Growing up between Miami and Haiti, JDevon brings firsthand experience from a lineage of respected Voodoo practitioners, including mentorship from legendary figures like Mambo Jewell and Erol Josie.

"Haitian Voodoo is a culture... We are Haitian Voodoo," JDevon explains, challenging mainstream perceptions with profound simplicity. This conversation unveils how Voodoo served as the revolutionary force behind Haiti's 1804 independence from Napoleon's forces—a historical achievement often overlooked in Western narratives. We explore the structured spiritual protocols that govern authentic practice, from ceremonial drumming that calls spirits to the sacred altars that connect practitioners with ancestors.

The episode illuminates Voodoo's powerful healing traditions, where high priests function as traditional doctors with extensive knowledge of medicinal herbs. "For every sickness on earth, there's an herb," JDevon shares, recounting how he personally cured his aunt's diabetes through traditional remedies. These healing practices represent just one facet of a comprehensive spiritual system that has sustained Haitian identity through centuries of struggle.

Most powerfully, JDevon confronts the concerning rise of spiritual charlatans who misrepresent Voodoo for profit without proper initiation or knowledge. Through cautionary tales and passionate advocacy, he emphasizes the importance of maintaining authentic lineage and spiritual authority—reminding us that working with spirits carries real consequences when protocols aren't respected.

Whether you're curious about authentic spiritual traditions, interested in decolonizing religious understanding, or seeking deeper knowledge about Haiti's rich cultural heritage, this episode offers rare insights into a profound spiritual practice that has shaped history yet remains widely misunderstood. Follow JDevon777 on social media to continue learning about authentic Haitian Voodoo from a respected practitioner dedicated to preserving its sacred traditions.

Chapters

• 0:25 Introduction to Haitian Voodoo
• 8:10 Growing Up in Voodoo Tradition
• 11:52 The Essence of Haitian Voodoo
• 17:19 Protection Spirits and Ceremonies
• 22:25 Sacred Altars and Spiritual Connection
• 27:48 Drums and Ceremonial Practices
• 34:04 Initiation Process and Protocols
• 37:45 Herbal Healing and Natural Medicine
• 43:19 Voodoo vs. Religion
• 49:08 Confronting Scammers and Misrepresentation
• 58:57 Closing Thoughts and Appreciation

Transcript

Speaker 3: 0:25

Welcome to the NYP Talk Show. This is your host, your brother Mikey Fever. We got a special guest here tonight who is going to be breaking down the science and mystery of the patient voodoo. Right now we're just setting the tone right, getting things going. You know what I'm saying? To get you guys on it To see what's going to happen. You're about to hear some good things and the brother will build.

Speaker 2: 0:53

You know what I'm saying, thank you, Yo to my listeners and viewers.

Speaker 3: 1:02

Don't forget to comment, like, share, subscribe. We got super chats. We got our brother here making his debut on the NYP Talk Show channel, jay Devon 777. For those who don't know, jay means God, devon means front, so he's the God up ahead. You know what I'm saying? Peace, God. How you doing, man.

Speaker 1: 1:23

I'm great, I'm great, and yourself. Good, peace god how you doing, man, I'm great I'm greeting yourself good man. It's a pleasure to have you on here, brother we happy to have you here, man.

Speaker 3: 1:32

Yeah, man, you know this part. This, this platform, is all about, you know, uplifting, educating and giving people proper, proper information about different cultures. It's bridging the gap amongst the afric, the continental Africans and the African Americans here and those in the diaspora. So that's what it's about, and we can talk about the sciences and mysteries of Haitian voodoo, and, again, it's a pleasure to have you on here, brother. Tell us, javon, where are you from?

Speaker 1: 1:59

my brother, give us a little background on you, I'm born in Miami, but as a kid, my mom shipped me to Haiti. All right, my mom shipped me to Haiti. I was in Haiti for about, I'd say I was like two, three, four years old. And I grew up in Voodoo.

Speaker 1: 2:38

I grew up in a Voodoo environment, seeing these things when I was a kid you know what I'm saying and moving back, even when my mom moved me back to the states, you know, it continued. Like you know, my mom was a was a heavy believer and a practitioner as well, until she got initiated as well, and I was there. So she got initiated as well and I was there when she got initiated by. You know, one of the first initiations was by Mike Amel Jewell, all right, and you know, which is one of the legends and little community, that lady. That lady is a legend, um, she's an icon and she's, if she's having a ceremony, that even the hait Haitian, the, the, the president of Haiti, comes to her ceremony when she having her ceremony. So wow.

Speaker 1: 3:51

You know, wow. So that lets you know off backs how big of a person she she was. And then you know my mom got initiated by my spiritual father, joel Henry, and also Ewa Josie was there as well, helping my father Everybody. I'm pretty sure everybody know who Ewa Josie is. If you look him up, he's the director of Voodoo in Haiti right now he do a lot of performances.

Speaker 1: 4:49

If you go on YouTube Google, you can Google him up. He a proper. You know what I'm saying. I was raised around iconic and legends when it comes up to this community.

Speaker 3: 5:05

I have a question though which region in Haiti is your family from?

Speaker 1: 5:10

My family is from Okai.

Speaker 3: 5:13

Okai.

Speaker 1: 5:13

Okai.

Speaker 3: 5:15

That's the south.

Speaker 1: 5:18

That's the south, yeah, but we have homes all over Haiti. We have homes in Del Haiti, we have homes in Delmar, we have homes in Zona Niklista, I have a home in Kenscoff, you know all over.

Speaker 3: 5:43

So, being that you were born in the States, shout outs to those in Florida and Miami what you said your mom shipped you out to Haiti at age two, word, word. You know if you can recall any memory from that. You said you came back when you were like what? Six, six to ten or something like that.

Speaker 1: 6:05

Around five, six-ish.

Speaker 3: 6:08

Complete cultural shock for you when you came back or when you got to Haiti. It was a complete cultural shock, if you can recall.

Speaker 1: 6:13

Right right, when I was in Haiti, everybody was just looking at me. Like you know, they used to call me T-Blood on the block. When I was in Haiti, I was in Bel-Air, at one of my mom's people's house. I was in Bel-Air so, and right now, bel-air is like empty.

Speaker 3: 6:35

right now, that's like one of the home of the gang Unfortunately Shout out. I only ask that which region you're from, because my family is from Pinchonville. Many came from Point Paisa.

Speaker 1: 6:53

St Mark Pinchonville is not too far.

Speaker 3: 6:56

Yeah, so that's where the family's from and shout out to Haiti man. I'm praying that one day things do turn around over there, man, because there's a lot I'm missing out on not being over there Of course, of course. I know Definitely.

Speaker 1: 7:16

Send gifts, send gifts and the likes. Man Send gifts and the likes because after this live, I'm definitely staying on this live and dropping some jewels. There's a lot of things that I need to address. I just never had the time to because I've been busy, you know, working of course, but I'm going to be on this live for a minute, so drop random likes up, share the live.

Speaker 3: 7:48

I want everybody to be on here. You know what I'm saying for our listeners and viewers. The brother is also on live on his tiktok while he's doing his interview, so there are times you know he'll be jumping in and out, but he, he, he, he wanted to spread the word, by the time this, this interview, comes out, that his followers are in tune with what's going on. Don't forget to tell him to follow NYP Talk Show on YouTube and on TikTok. You'll catch his interview Same definition with the brother.

Speaker 1: 8:16

They definitely see it. They definitely see it. Follow NYP Talk Show.

Speaker 3: 8:22

Definitely, definitely. We're going to get into some questions, my brother, for the sake for our listeners and viewers, to give them more in, you know, in-depth information. What is Haitian voodoo?

Speaker 1: 8:35

Haitian voodoo is a culture, something we all you know. That's just, it's us. We are Haitian Voodoo.

Speaker 3: 8:53

I like that answer.

Speaker 1: 8:54

We are Haitian Voodoo. You get what I'm saying. Yeah, like it gets deeper, of course, but we are Haitian Voodoo, it gets deeper, of course, but we are Haitian Voodoo. Without Haitian Voodoo, we would all be lost. We would all be lost. You get what I'm saying. So without Haitian Voodoo, we would not be free. Without Haitian Voodoo, a lot of people wouldn't be where they at right now.

Speaker 3: 9:32

You get what I'm saying I understand that's basically what it is. It's a lineage thing based on your family practice or something that's passed down that you will feel in your life. There will be a point in your life where you will feel something that you know you don't belong to. You know organized religion. You just feel like I'm free, spirituality to higher power or higher powers, absolutely like, definitely like. You know, oh man, excited about this. So you know we ask some questions to put things in proper context for our listeners and viewers, and you know we just want to make it clear as possible for them. So we want to go into how did Haitian voodoo develop in Haiti?

Speaker 1: 10:19

how did Haitian voodoo develop in Haiti? Haitian voodoo developed on its own, honestly, like this, is something from centuries before me, and you thought we was even going to be born Our grandma, our great-great-great-great-great-grandma, before we was even born, before I was even born, in 1804,. Haitian voodoo is what helped Haiti beat the great Napoleon. You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 3: 10:54

That's a fact right there.

Speaker 1: 10:57

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3: 10:59

That's a fact.

Speaker 1: 11:03

Not only the great Napoleon, haitian voodoo came and also helped united states. Free slaves came to new orleans. We also fought in new orleans. We also fought in savannah, georgia. We also fought in chicago. You know, I'm saying our statues are in those places, but they won't tell you that. You know what I'm saying. They won't break down that history. They won't tell you that yeah, that's true that's true, the whole Louisiana Purchase thing.

Speaker 3: 11:35

Yeah, yeah, bro, that's a fact. That's a fact, my brother. Um, you know, in the aspect of rituals and practices, right, what is a voodoo ceremony like?

Speaker 1: 11:54

A voodoo ceremony is something that's very beautiful, it's sacred. A voodoo ceremony is, it's a ceremony to. It depends on what kind of ceremony you're doing. There are ceremonies where you, you know, you're giving your, your spirits, you're feeding your spirits, um. There are ceremonies where you people are getting married to their spirits, to certain spirits, male or female getting married to certain spirits. There are ceremonies where you get initiated. There are certain ceremonies where you, there are God ceremonies, and when I say God, I'm not meaning the higher power, I'm meaning protection Spirits, like spirits that protect you. You know what I'm saying. It's a different, it's G-A-D. God, god. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. It's a different, it's G-A-D. God, god yeah, you know what?

Speaker 1: 13:08

I'm saying so. I just wanted to clarify that so nobody don't get confused.

Speaker 3: 13:15

Yeah, definitely definitely With that. Go ahead, go ahead, my bad.

Speaker 1: 13:21

But there are, there's a lot of different ceremonies, like it's not just, you know, one type of ceremony, there's several different other types of ceremonies. You get what I'm saying definitely every month, almost every month, there's a spirit month and they have a ceremony for that, for that spirit. You get what I'm saying. So month and they have a ceremony for that spirit, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3: 13:51

So, yeah, so for those with the GAD, as he mentioned, it's protection. You know, I don't want to divulge too much information, but a GAD is a protection for people. It's like you may see people wear rosary whatsoever the rosary.

Speaker 1: 14:08

No.

Speaker 3: 14:10

No. I'm saying to the people Okay okay. Yeah, like you know, like a protection, like a talisman or amulet you wear, so a gad is like some gads they could put in your body, I believe right.

Speaker 1: 14:26

Let me explain what a god is. A god is when an Ugin like me every Ugin have a god kai, like in my language, I would tell you that I kick him. God Beyond this, which is? Which is that guy right up there?

Speaker 3: 15:07

Yep and I believe.

Speaker 1: 15:19

When you get a God, the God comes and actually put his mark on you. So, therefore, at that moment that God walks with you and protects you at all times oh, let me show the people on TikTok my bad Simbi.

Speaker 3: 15:47

Yeah, I wanted Simbi. Yeah, I wanted to clarify something. I wanted to clarify one thing. I wanted to as I was explaining to the people. Like you know, I had Rose on here and we was talking about she's like you westernize it Because, you know, I'm trying to make it easier for those who don't understand what it is, to put it in a good analogy for them. So they're like, oh okay, that's what it is, because I know what you're saying, but just for the sake of the listeners and viewers who may not be haitian, who may not be haitian or practicing this, you kind of put it for them in a form they can understand it. So that's what I was like explaining to them.

Speaker 3: 16:20

like you know talisman or something that's inputted. Yeah, because you know we got to kind of, we got to be patient with those.

Speaker 1: 16:27

What a God is okay when the spirit comes and they come, and they, they come and put their mark on you. From that moment on, that God, from that moment on, you have that God in you. That God protects you from anybody that's trying to do any harm to you, any witchcraft, any voodoo work, especially with the God that I have. He's the God of all gods, so he's the most powerful, he's the God of all gods. They're called the three kings. It's Sibi Glow, sibi Andezu and Sibi Makaya. They control all four elements.

Speaker 1: 17:40

So no matter what whoever somebody was trying to do something after you, somebody was trying to do something after you, no matter what they would have to go through them, and because that you have that god on you, that god will automatically, you know, stop whatever it is that that person is trying to do to you. You understand what I'm saying neutralize that.

Speaker 3: 18:03

All right, that that's peace right there. And um, it's true, man, how can, like I got a question for you how can a person go about getting a guide, like, say, somebody call you one day, say, hey, I'd like to get a guide. What is the process for that, to get a guide?

Speaker 1: 18:20

The process to get a guide. First of all, you need it's a price. It's a price to get a God. It's a price to get a God and there's stuff that I would have to prepare. You know certain things that I have to prepare, Certain things that I have to prepare. I'm not going to go ahead and put it on there, because there are certain people that don't know what they're doing. I'm not the one that's going to be able to teach them. They don't know how to prep to put God on. Somebody I'm'm not doing that's going to have to be on here to teach them. But, yeah, the steps to getting to God. Of course you got to pay a certain amount of money for that God to, because there's things that I need to buy as an UGA for me to prep for when that God comes, so he can do what he's doing. To put that mark on you. Okay, I got you.

Speaker 1: 19:37

It's not just a simple one, two, three thing. You get what I'm saying, that's peace right there.

Speaker 3: 19:46

It's's a process. It's a long process, a lot of steps involved. You know, all right being that you said you were uga. For those who are listening and viewing, uga is a high priest, an initiated high priest. You know. Just to clarify, just to clarify for you guys. So, growing up I I used to hear there are guides and there's something called a point. Right, can you break down what a point is?

Speaker 1: 20:19

A point can mean it's two different. Well, it depends on what it is like. There's certain people that goes to like other people and try to get like, uh, something like. Let's say, for example, they got people that be trying to go get rich or something like that, or you know what I'm saying. So they'll go to like a Boco or Ugan to come get a point to get rich, or you know what I'm saying. But a point is really a hot spirit. That's what a point is. A point is something that's that's a hot spirit that you, that you, that you basically go receive and pay for or to to whatever it is that you want it for, you get what I'm saying.

Speaker 1: 21:25

That's what a point is.

Speaker 3: 21:27

That's a fact. I like that Basically like a worker for those who need like a little boost, like a steroid, right right right, yeah. A little cheat sheet Right, all right. So the question is right here. What is the purpose of altars in voodoo homes?

Speaker 1: 21:51

that is a big, that is a very big purpose, like without an altar. Who are you connecting with?

Speaker 2: 22:02

you have to have an altar like who are you connecting with?

Speaker 1: 22:05

you have to have an altar. Like who are you going to go pray to? You have to have that room. You have to have that room to go meditate and talk to your ancestors and connect. You know what I'm saying. To get away, you have to.

Speaker 1: 22:22

It's a must that you have an altar. If you don't have an's a must that you have an altar. If you don't have an altar, then who are you? You know what I'm saying? Like, when people go to church, when they got those saints and whatever, like Catholic church, those are altars. You know what I'm saying? That's right, like, but having an altar is very important, that's very important. And having an altar is just, it's more deeper than to just have an altar, because you just can't just, okay, I'm going to go buy these stuff and then I'm going to put them up and then, hey, I got an altar. No, there are steps to it.

Speaker 3: 23:07

Tell them. There are steps to it.

Speaker 1: 23:09

Tell him there are steps to it. First of all, before even having an altar, you have to have, you have to unclay your laws, you have to have, you have to unclay your laws, mm-hmm.

Speaker 1: 23:31

You have to. When I say unclay your laws, that means bring in your spirits into your home. That's a ceremony, mm-hmm. And when you're done doing that, then you set up your altar. Ceremony. And when you're done doing that, then you set up your altar and you're going to know where you're going to place your spirits. You get what I'm saying? Yep, because you can build an altar all you want to, but if the spirit's not inside the house, you just have an altar, all you want to.

Speaker 3: 24:13

But if the spirit's not inside the house you just got you just got. You just have an altar. That's just furniture.

Speaker 1: 24:16

Yeah, definitely, definitely bro you just have an altar like. So that's very important. It steps to everything. A lot of people be thinking they can just do anything. However, they want to do it, especially these new people coming in feeling like they that just came in the game, creating new stuff, new stuff, making the voodoo look bad and giving the voodoo a bad name. You know what I'm saying. That's a topic that I'm going to get into later because it's some stuff that I came across and I heard recently and you know what I'm saying and it ticks me off. And once I'm done with this interview you know what I'm saying I'm really going to get into it.

Speaker 3: 25:38

I know. That's why I take time.

Speaker 1: 25:41

I really need y'all to go ham on sharing this live, because when I'm done with this interview, I'm really finna touch a lot of bases with a lot of things within this voodoo community.

Speaker 3: 25:56

Bro, I'm not gonna lie. To stay on topic with this interview, I agree with what you're saying because these are things my late uncle told me. May he rest in peace. He was known. I don't want to say his name, things my late uncle told me. May he rest in peace. He was known. I don't want to. I don't want to say his name, but those who know he passed he was very known. Well, I'm just going to say he was from. We'll build on that when we get off, we'll talk about that. But he was known and he used to talk about people that are giving this craft a bad name the spirituality, because we got people that are giving people false information and fake um initiations. Like you get what I'm saying and oh my goodness over, overcharging them.

Speaker 3: 26:45

Yeah, man, it's a lot of, and you know, and for those listeners and the viewers, you got to be careful who you choose, which voodoo house you choose to go into, because do your research, do your research, because you got your due diligence. Your due diligence is important because this is your life you're playing with and things will go bad for you. You notice that things going left, and you're right. Things are going left from your right and left from your life, and it's like I hear the same gripe happening in other spiritual cultures as well, like there's people out there who come out of the woodworks with these new ideas and these new formulas and stuff like that that are really devaluing what the culture represents. I agree with you where you're coming from and this has to stop because you're playing with people's lives out here. So the next question, the next question I have for you, is what is it? What is the significance of food and offerings to the law? Significance of food and offerings to the law?

Speaker 1: 27:51

That is something you do almost, especially if you. This is the spirit that you work with, this is the spirit that you work with, this is the spirit that you work with, and this person, this spirit, has been doing its job. It's a must that you, you know, continue to feed this spirit so that they can continue to do good work that they've been doing. It's another thing too, though you don't want to. In a sense, these spirits are like babies. They're like babies, right. You don't want to spoil them. You don't want to feed a spirit that's not working. Like me as an Uga, if you're not working. Like me as an UGA, if you're not working, if you're not doing what you're supposed to be doing. It's just like your child when you go to school. When your child go to school and they bring home straight A's that's what they're supposed to do Congratulate them, right, and they bring home straight A's.

Speaker 1: 29:30

That's what they're supposed to do. Congratulate them, right, yeah, you congratulate them. You know what I'm saying. So, with feeding your spirits, you want to make sure that they're doing what they're supposed to do. They're doing what they're supposed to do. They're doing what? They're supposed to do. You know what I'm saying? Because you don't want to just keep feeding them, because that makes them lazy. So now they're looking forward to it. Now you're feeding them for no reason.

Speaker 3: 30:04

Got you. Yeah, that's true so.

Speaker 1: 30:06

Bye's true so they must reciprocate.

Speaker 3: 30:19

I have another question for you. My brother Quite a few questions but I'm going to go to this one right here. Let me see hold on hold on part about that. It says, uh, why are drums important in voodoo rituals?

Speaker 1: 30:40

drums are very important in voodoo rituals. That's what we'll cause. It goes from the potomita, the drums, matter of fact, it comes from the drums to the potomita. The drums is who will cause the spirits. You get what I'm saying. When you salute in a ceremony, when, when you saluting a spirit and you do the four ways, you calling that spirit down with the words that you have, with the mudpas that the spirit give you to call them down, and then, after you're done with the four ways, you go to the drums and you say what you're saying in front of the drums and you salute the drums and then you go to the portal, which is the potomita, which is what separates our world and the spiritual world. The drums is what calls on the spirit, it's what pulls the spirit. You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 3: 32:02

Definitely, the rhythm, it connects you to the earth, the heartbeat, exactly, definitely. And for those, like I've seen, voodoo ceremonies where they have three drummers, sometimes four, yeah, of course, and each one has a role that they play, but we can't disclose that on here, but yeah, it's very powerful man that on here, but yeah, it's very powerful man, you can.

Speaker 1: 32:31

I mean, that's that's you. You can, you can, that's not a problem. I mean each drummer, each drummer, just it's just. Each drummer. Gotta is a kaka, the sandoli mama and boss, that's it.

Speaker 3: 32:41

Yeah, basically the trinity. Basically, because everything is the trinity it has to be. You know, yeah, definitely, the reason why everything is a trinity it has to be. You know, yeah, definitely, the reason why I say that is that I'm trying to be very respectful not to disclose, you know.

Speaker 1: 32:54

The only thing we can't discuss is about initiation. I just can't get into what's initiation about, like, what about, like, like things about initiation. That's the only thing we can talk about.

Speaker 3: 33:11

Anything else yeah you say, being that we're speaking about initiation, right for those, for the sake of a listener, what is like an overview, without going too much into information? How can one go about seeking to be initiated, like if one came to you right now and say, hey, j. Can one go about seeking to be initiated Like if one came to you right now and say, hey, j-liver, I'd like to get initiated? What steps would you? Tell them to take.

Speaker 1: 33:36

Very first step I would tell them to take is me as an UGA, I got to do my researches and ask their spiritual, their spirits, from their mom and their dad's side. I'm going to send them to ask their spirits for passage. I'm going to send them to their Vithasyam to get passage to be able to come to me for me to give them, for me to do the initiation for them, versus there's people nowadays that just do it for the money and be like, hey, yes, come on, let me go, come on you, this is how much it is and come, come, come. Cuz no, there's rules and regulations, there's ways you gotta do it. You know I'm saying like I, I, it's a must that I, that I ask for permission from your ancestors and I get permission from your ancestors and I get approval from ogileyi for me to initiate you, you know what I'm saying I got to do a Libinasyon.

Speaker 1: 34:54

I got to. You know what I'm saying. That means a Libinasyon is speaking to all spirits from that person mom's side, on their dad's side, to get approval so that all their spirits approve of the initiation. And me, as an Uyghur, have to get approval from their spirits along with them. They got to get approval from their spirits to allow me to initiate them got you, I got you.

Speaker 3: 35:31

It has to go through order, it has to go through the ranks hierarchy, it has to go through a process protocol. So how does voodoo explain healing and illness?

Speaker 1: 35:43

how does voodoo explain healing and illness?

Speaker 3: 35:46

voodoo explain healing and illness voodoo explains healing and illness yeah say, if somebody is sick us uguns are us uguns are doctors like us Uguns are doctors, like before there were doctors back in the day, there wasn't doctors back in the days.

Speaker 1: 36:19

As an Ugun, you must learn everything you must know you got to learn about. That's why I tell you, as an Ugun, you got to learn about.

Speaker 1: 36:32

That's why I tell you as an Uyghur, you got to learn about a lot of different things Herbs and everything. Herbs how to treat somebody. If somebody was to come to your home they're sick, how to treat that person. Somebody come with a zombie on them. How to treat that person. What urge to use to treat that person? Yeah you know I'm saying like that is very important, like and I want to give a shout out to Mambo Imakila- Salute.

Speaker 1: 37:11

Salute to Mambo Imakila. She's doing that, you know really. Sat me down and, like you know, taught me about a lot of different herbs. You know what I'm saying on. Like you know what this herb do. You know what I'm saying. Like I treated my auntie of diabetes. My auntie no longer have diabetes salute.

Speaker 3: 37:40

Hold on, bro. We gotta give you. We gotta give you a shout out for that one. That's a fact. That's peace right there, bro. I got to give you a shout out for that one. That's a fact.

Speaker 1: 37:54

That's peace. Right there, bro, there's herbs you got to understand. For every sickness on earth, any sickness the body has, there's a. There's a. There's a, there's a. There's a herb for everything. People choose to go to the doctors when they really should be using herbs to treat themselves that's it you get. I'm saying the herbs is what's even, even even with. You know that. I don't know if I could say it on my life the you know, the positive people's, the positive. You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 3: 38:37

Are you talking about hotels in Vegas?

Speaker 1: 38:40

Yeah. Yeah. Positive people like there are treatments for for that. There are treatments for that. There are treatments for that. You get I'm saying stds anything. They are treatment for high blood pressure, anything diabetes, kidney stones, heart murmur, heart problems. There are treatment for every herb that you see in your backyard you might think is weed. These people be cutting out weeds, not knowing the weeds that you're cutting out, that you can go put in the pot and go cure your kidney stone.

Speaker 3: 39:23

Very holistic.

Speaker 1: 39:26

You get what I'm saying?

Speaker 3: 39:27

Yep, I like saying Yep, I like that bro.

Speaker 1: 39:32

There's a lot of like. Every herb that you see is for something. Every plant that you see is for something. It's a living organism, just like you. It's here on the earth for a reason. It says it in the Bible.

Speaker 3: 39:50

Yeah, I encode it. Yeah, the vegetation, the healing.

Speaker 1: 39:57

It's not to people who look over that type of stuff. You get what I'm saying, but there's a treatment for everything. You don't have to go to the doctor.

Speaker 3: 40:08

That's a fact, bro. I remember my uncle went to Haiti and my grandfather Up here. They were sick. They went to Haiti for like three months. People tell me they're walking around, they're jumping up and down, but when they come in the US they're bedridden. As soon as they get on that plane, they land. It's like energy. They're back to eating natural foods, teas and stuff you got to understand.

Speaker 1: 40:33

In Haiti, the food is so organic, bro. Last time I've been to Haiti was like five six years ago. Last time I've been to Haiti was like five six years ago. That's when I've been in Haiti.

Speaker 1: 40:47

It was like five, six years ago. I remember I was going through SEMA and it's a Mashi, whatever the case may be. And one thing about me everybody know I love ligium and lalo and stuff like that, so I grab me some lalo and bro, the food is so light over there, bro, like I ate about four plates of it and I was still not full. Mind you, over here you eat one plate, you full, yeah it was targic and all that, yeah, yeah because of the stuff that they put in their food.

Speaker 1: 41:33

You get, I'm saying, and they're like it's too much, it's too much stuff, like they put too much stuff in they in the food. Like you know, I'm saying but in Haiti it's so organic, it comes straight from the ground. It comes straight from the ground and it's so organic. Bro, I ate so much. I ate so much of it, bro, it felt light and mind you over over here if I like one plate of food like I could eat, like starting half of it.

Speaker 3: 42:12

I'm already full gmo in the food. Bro, exactly that franken food yeah, you're absolutely right and that's what leads to all these diseases and all that. So, like we're gonna ask this question and then from there you can let us know what's on your mind as far as the culture, where it's going, but we're gonna ask this question right here how does voodoo view the balance of good and evil?

Speaker 1: 42:40

so that's the people. It's not voodoo, it's the people yeah.

Speaker 1: 42:53

I like that. Voodoo is just the name of a culture, of a religion. It's the people that view it good and bad. You get what I'm saying? You scream voodoo, you scream the word voodoo. People go demon. This is because they're blind, because these white people programmed us, programmed them. Should I say you get what I'm saying. Long time ago, not knowing voodoo was the very first religion on earth. You get what I'm saying. A long time ago, not knowing voodoo was the very first religion on earth. You get what I'm saying Voodoo is the very first religion on earth. You get what I'm saying Christianity was man made.

Speaker 3: 43:39

That's a fact.

Speaker 1: 43:40

Christianity was man made. You get what I'm saying. They wanted us, they wanted to control us, so they programmed something for us to believe in, so that they could control us. Even in the Bible, they want us to live a certain way. They want us to live how they want us to live, how they want us to live in the Bible. That's why, every year, and even in the Bible, that's why I, like in the Bible, like honestly me personally speaking like I don't really too much, really, you know, tap into the Bible like that, because when did God sit down with you and told you all this to tell us?

Speaker 3: 44:35

You know people are going to come at. They're going to come at us for this right.

Speaker 1: 44:38

They're going to come at you like how dare you say that? That's fine, but I don't want them to answer that question though.

Speaker 3: 44:45

That's a fact. I ask the same question too. Sometimes I'm like who had a bible in?

Speaker 1: 44:49

here. Every year they come out with a new version of bible. Every year, number one top selling book in america, bro, is the bible. Every year is the new bible coming out. I get that. It's revised, constantly revised. These people, these white people, they programming, they program. They program us to believe and live a certain way that they want us to live by. You get what I'm saying. They tell you oh, you shouldn't be worshiping any other gods but one God, knowing that there are seven gods.

Speaker 1: 45:46

And the people that made the bible. Notice, you don't think they know this. They know this they're gonna hide it from you, because they program you and they want you to. They want to control. That's how they controlling the whole population of united United States with this creation, not only the United States, the world. You get what I'm saying. You get what I'm saying From our ancestors. You get what I'm saying, but those that's woke. Power to us, bro.

Speaker 3: 46:25

That's a fact.

Speaker 1: 46:26

Those that's still unwoke come home yeah, tap into divinity wake up, because that same church, all they're doing is taking money from you to build their own church, to build and put in their pockets.

Speaker 3: 46:49

Oh man, they're not going to like this, but hey, this is his perspective, it's not perspective, it's facts. Yeah, I get what you're saying, but I'm letting them know it's not an opinion.

Speaker 1: 47:01

It's not a perspective, it's facts. Of course I'm not religious.

Speaker 3: 47:05

It's facts. Of course I'm not religious. I'm just letting them know. You know what I'm saying? Let the brother speak. Let the brother speak, man. So, with that being said, I want to get into more what you were talking about earlier. What is going on in this culture, in this voodoo culture, this practice of voodoo with new people coming up with new ideas or scamming people out there giving them?

Speaker 1: 47:33

misinformation man, man, man, man. Repeat that question because my live went paused real quick because I had a text message. Repeat that question.

Speaker 3: 47:43

What are your views on the misrepresentation of voodoo and those that are out there giving people misinformation and scamming?

Speaker 1: 47:50

those One question. Hold on Pause real quick. I'm live Live Real quick. I want certain people to be on this live while I'm saying what I'm saying, so I'm going to text a few, yeah, man be on this live while I'm saying what I'm saying.

Speaker 3: 48:10

So I'm going to text a few. Yeah, because we want to know what's going on. What is your take on that? Don't forget people. Don't forget to comment, like, share, subscribe, super chat. You know, share this show as best as possible to my listeners and viewers. Pardon the absence, mikey was out. I was out, had some things going on, but I'm back and, you know, wish you all the best man. Missed you guys as well.

Speaker 1: 48:49

Okay, boom. Repeat that, hold on. Repeat that question again.

Speaker 3: 48:57

What are your views and what's going on within this voodoo culture, with those coming up with new ideas, concept, misinformation, misrepresenting voodoo and scamming?

Speaker 1: 49:08

I hate them. People that you heard I hate them.

Speaker 3: 49:19

I hate you. So this is what you got to say to them Hold on. Is this how you feel about them.

Speaker 1: 49:25

Is this how you feel about them?

Speaker 3: 49:26

right here.

Speaker 1: 49:28

We bringing drama.

Speaker 3: 49:29

Fuck you and your motherfucking mama. We gonna kill all you motherfuckers. That's how you feel.

Speaker 1: 49:34

That's exactly how I feel. Last night I had a client that called my phone. I called my phone. I feel, so bad for her. This client went to somebody to get some work done. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm some work done by, was somebody that wanted to be part of my temple. Oh wow, that wanted to be initiated under like that wanted to be part of one of my spiritual kids. Mind you, this person is not initiated, not nothing wow when you're doing work.

Speaker 1: 51:04

What are you saying to the spirit? How are you're doing work? What are you saying to the spirit? How are you sending this work?

Speaker 1: 51:09

no, no language, no, nothing, nothing first of all, this was the person the client told me they got a reading done by this person. This person is not Haitian. This person does not speak English, I mean Creole. This person told me that they had a mounted reading by Baon Samji. I said pause. I said pause. How were you able to communicate with the spirit? Did you have a translator? The client was on to me. No, the spirit was speaking English to me. Wow, y'all this shit gotta stop.

Speaker 3: 52:23

So I got a question for you how much money was taken from this client? If you could disclose that?

Speaker 1: 52:34

I wish not to disclose it because if I do, if the person is watching, they would know who the client is, and the client don't want their name to be, you know you know, all right, yeah, let's leave it like that you get what I'm saying, but shit like that I do not respect.

Speaker 1: 52:59

Like I just lost 100% respect for that person and I sent that person a paragraph. As I was on the phone with that client, I sent that person a long paragraph letting that person know like yo for you to do, you can't be that one of you like you, that hungry to want to be somebody like me. You got to go through what I went through to do what I'm doing. Yeah, when you're doing the work, when you're doing it, okay, let's say you're doing a mesh, a lump or something and you're doing the work for somebody. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 53:45

How, you, how? What words are you using to, to interpolate a law into the work, to send the work? How?

Speaker 3: 53:53

exactly.

Speaker 1: 53:53

You don't have no work are you using, are you going through to get passage to, to get this work sent off to who? Who are those spirits? Do you even know those spirits? Who those spirits are? To get passage to get that spirit, to get that work sent off to?

Speaker 3: 54:12

that's crazy. That's crazy.

Speaker 1: 54:15

Work right there, bro yikes like like this gotta stop bro, like shit got to stop bro, like this shit has to stop. And I'm starting getting on everybody else Like there's a lot of people like they be coming up with their own Me I carry the same old traditional way that I was taught, the old traditional way that I was taught, the old traditional way that I was taught, the old traditional way that I was taught. All my spiritual kids will tell you, I carry the old traditional way that I was taught, the way my dad taught me. I see Mike, I'm in him doing stuff. I carry the same way.

Speaker 3: 55:06

You want to know what's crazy?

Speaker 1: 55:10

that client told me, after that person did the work for them, that person cat died. Wow, the person that did the work, his cat died the next day and she got into a car accident the next day. Playing with the wrong spirits, bro.

Speaker 3: 55:36

Yeah, yo, I want to add this before we get checked out. Earlier in the show, this is what we were talking about when he said language voodoo is language words to get through and you don't play with that because your word is your bond in this, in this practice. So you gotta know what you're saying, because your own word is a double-edged sword, as they say. Your tongue is a sword. You can cut back. The wrong word, the wrong tonality could be catastrophic absolutely yep absolutely you know whoever's out there doing that.

Speaker 3: 56:14

You gotta think, man, there's always an eye watching you, there's an eye on you, so you gotta be careful with. That being said, my brother, I appreciate you. Brother, you gotta come back. We gotta get you back on the line but the.

Speaker 1: 56:27

Thing is what it felt. Understand, like bro, I'm well known in this voodoo community, well respected. Like you, think you're gonna do certain things and trying to get away with it is going to come back. Whatever is done in the dark is always going to come. Certain things and trying to get away with it, it's going to come back. Whatever is done in the dark is always going to come to light.

Speaker 3: 56:48

Of course, of course.

Speaker 1: 56:51

Especially dealing with spirituality.

Speaker 3: 56:55

You know what I'm saying. I just say pa voye wash Ka she mil. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1: 57:03

So pa ka she mil For real.

Speaker 3: 57:05

Yeah, yeah, don't do that, because these things yeah, I'll be seeing people be playing on on social media.

Speaker 1: 57:11

It's a joke, bro. Like they were thinking this voodoo thing is a joke, bro, like, and that's because they never witnessed anything. They never experienced real voodoo. That's the that's. That's what it is. They never experienced real voodoo. That's what it is. They never experience real voodoo. They never experience what real voodoo is, so they feel like they can just come in and just do whatever. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1: 57:39

No, you're going to pay for it. You're going to pay for it. Like me growing up in Haiti, bro, I done seen zombie with my own two eyes you get what I'm saying, speaking of the devil, like this client is calling me right now that client is calling me right now. I gotta put my phone on DMD alright.

Speaker 3: 58:01

Well, we about to check out my brother. I appreciate you for coming through. I'm gonna hit you on the phone. Definitely I'm gonna jump on that live. You got going on right now too, bro, but I appreciate you, my G, for coming through. Man, we gotta build. Man, I gotta make a trip down there, you know, to the south, and see what's up. Man, definitely man, maybe an in person one day. You know what I'm saying. We just sit down and build on that. Basically, man, yo for the listeners. Don't forget to comment, like, share, subscribe Our viewers as well. Super Chat you can find JD Vaughn on TikTok. I believe it's TikTok and Instagram TikTok.

Speaker 1: 58:36

Instagram JD Vaughn 777. Mm-hmm. On Facebook, it's JD Vaughn alone. Mm-hmmd Vaughn alone.

Speaker 3: 58:50

Yeah, check him out for his work, man, you know. It speaks for itself. With that being said, NYP Folk Show.

Speaker 1: 58:55

I post all my reviews. All my reviews speak for itself and I'm going to go ahead and post it again. And I heard it myself.

Speaker 3: 59:03

The other day too, when that person called you, I was on the phone with you. I heard that person the other day when she was saying I'm coming back to you, brother, you remember that time we was building on that. The brother is solid. He got his stuff. Check him out, man. If you need that, good work it won't be no funny game.

Speaker 1: 59:23

Not only good work, the proper knowledge. That's very important. The proper knowledge about Vodou, yeah, the proper knowledge about Vodou. Is anybody going to tell you anything just to get you out your money, to swindle you out your money, and no, I just flew to Texas. I just flew to Texas just to go help somebody. It's not about the money for me. I didn't charge the person not one dollar yeah, I remember you.

Speaker 3: 1:00:07

I remember when you went out there. Yeah, we spoke before you bounced out there. That time you was like yo, bro, I'm like, yeah, I flew to Texas.

Speaker 1: 1:00:14

I flew to Texas to go help somebody that was in need, that was lost. I didn't charge that person that one dollar, not one dollar. Not one, because that's what I was chosen for to be able to help those that's in need, Help those that's lost. You get what I'm saying. That's why I was chosen. You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 1: 1:00:46

That's why I was chosen. You get what I'm saying. So when I see people out here just be scamming people out their money you get what I'm saying it irks my nerves and it makes me want to just expose their ass, just like I did Leonardo DiCaprio. But I ain't finished with him.

Speaker 3: 1:01:11

We're going to build on that, my brother and we are.

Speaker 1: 1:01:15

He's on a fake page on my live right now. He on my live right now on a fake page. He think shit's sweet, but We'll talk.

Speaker 3: 1:01:29

We'll talk, my brother. I got you my G, Okay.

Speaker 1: 1:01:33

Love bro. Anytime bro. Y'all go check out.

Speaker 3: 1:01:40

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Speaker 1: 1:01:44

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Speaker 3: 1:01:47

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Speaker 1: 1:01:47

Instagram Same thing. Thanks for having me. Y'all go check out his website his Instagram same thing.

Speaker 3: 1:01:49

thanks for having me when this come out, we gotta have a part two. You know what I'm saying. I know the people gonna be like they gonna request more. So we're gonna have you come back, brother, when you can. Peace and love my G. We out Ah.