Drop your flag challenge - Crip Jesus

Chapters

• 0:00 Episode Introduction
• 10:42 The Drop the Flag Challenge
• 20:15 LA-NY Gang Misconceptions
• 30:11 Adam22's Controversy
• 37:28 Music Industry's Role in Violence
• 46:29 Taking Legal Action Against Labels
• 54:47 Building Something New Beyond Gangs

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:11

what's going on? Everybody out there is ron brown lmt, the people's fitness professional, aka soul brother number one, reporting for duty. Peace to everybody out there. Thank you for brother uh king l crip jesus coming out this evening. Really appreciate you, brother, you've been rocking with us Rocking man.

Speaker 1: 0:30

I mean, you got the wave right now. You know what I'm saying. You got the wave you popping right now. I saw you with what's that dude named the fat boy. No, pardon me, I don't mean disrespecting, but the big, the heavyset dude. That's no Jumper, no Jumper dude. Oh, poetic Flaco, yeah, I saw you with him.

Speaker 2: 0:54

Poetic Flaco, yeah that's an old video. He ain't really been tapping in with your boy since he didn't cross back to the dark side. There was a little error for about four, five months where he was trying to be like the conscious guy had no jumper. He had, uh, rizza islam, come up there, young pharaoh, uh, captain, whatever the hebrews would like do, like, yeah, he had all the you know, I'm saying all the regulars. And then he, he, he ran into me up there. I was up there with my homie killer from six. Oh, it was like, oh, jesus, yeah man. So he went in, uh, rented out a whole little area. We did an interview it was supposed to be like his first interview he's gonna do on his own channel and then he was getting into it with him. They were talking bad about it all. It was a whole little era. I remember I don't know what happened. He just i't know what happened. Everything switched back. He was back, cool with Adam, it was all.

Speaker 1: 1:49

He got pro-black for a second.

Speaker 2: 1:51

Yeah, he just was pro-black for a second the last time I got a music video with the Clippers there where they was like who's the top creep in LA? He says my name. He tried to give me some props. The dude Brick Baby's there like, say his name. I think that's when his whole little whatever pro-blackness he had left. I'm a rockin' with Crypt Jesus. That was the end of it there, because after that I never heard him mention me again. I've come across him on some clubhouse type stuff or whatever.

Speaker 1: 2:22

What's his name? Brick Baby. You got an issue with brick baby I mean it was some weird stuff.

Speaker 2: 2:28

he. He called himself blue jesus. He want to beef over the name. You know it's crazy. I'm so tapped in, right, I knew about this already before he brought it to the screen. So it was so fake because it was like we've already talked about it in person, Like you get what I'm saying. Like it was a whole little thing. So I don't know. It was like when Flaco said my name, he made it like it was a whole beef. He even came back for another episode, Like yeah, I ran into him. Then I'm like man, the story you talk about running into each other was true, but the part you talk about like we had the whole little Jesus name beef thing, that's a lie. But I don't know. I responded it was funny, we had a little moment, so it wasn't like that.

Speaker 2: 3:16

He's locked up right now right, he's in the feds. Free brick baby. Free brick baby.

Speaker 1: 3:22

Yo, so let's go into it. Free brick baby yo. Um, so let's, let's go into it. The drop the flag challenge which was created by hocus for fifth. Um, who is from castle? I'm from castle hill, I'm from san jose, that whole area over there, pc. Uh, everybody over there, castle hill sound view. I've been over there in castle hill sound view for years. I raised my daughter over there. Actually, castle Hill Shouts out to everybody over there in Castle Hill that I know, my family members Also, castle Hill Projects, people I know from over there. Peace to y'all. If y'all see this, hocus Pocus Started, dropped a flag challenge and you know me personally. I looked at it For a hot second. I looked at what was going on, what he was saying and you know me personally. I looked at it for a hot second. I looked at what was going on, what he was saying and you know I respect it. You know. You know what do you think about it?

Speaker 2: 4:15

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I respect it as well. You know what I'm saying and I think, starting right off, because the way the Internet is designed and the way it promotes and pushes out you know controversial stuff and you know negative things that as soon as it got some wheels and some legs on it, it kind of started getting picked up by different media outlets and you know, kind of used for messages that had nothing to do with the original message and people getting on the computer screen screen and speaking for whole entire cities and coasts. So you know, I think it's beautiful. I think a lot of other people feel so as well and, yeah, you know I I think it's a positive thing what I've observed from this so far.

Speaker 1: 5:10

Right, I think it's positive. However, you know, like from what I know as far as being online, watching people online, you know, and then hearing brothers from like I know a lot of Bloods from New York, yeah, I know a lot of bloods from New.

Speaker 1: 5:26

York. Yeah, no, a lot of bloods from New York, bloods from New York. Don't really talk too much about the West coast at all, really. Actually, you talk about their own, their own lives and things that's going on. But over the years there've been like some kind of back and forth between West coast gang members and East coast gang members, where west coast gang members they don't, uh, necessarily respect the east coast gang members. However, the east coast gang members are, um, putting their lives on on the line for what they believe in. They're going to jail, they're dying over this and the whole nine. You know it's a way of life. So now, how do you see that?

Speaker 2: 6:07

the whole nine. You know it's a way of life. So now, how do you see that? Yeah, that was the reason why I actually joined the live the other day. They did on it they had a panel, and that was the reason I joined it, because I really felt like, as far as the new york gang is dropping a flag, I respect it, I don't have nothing to say, they don't need me there. The reason I showed that was because there was some back and forth. I don't know if you've seen where Styles P got involved and then my own baby runner, so I came in order to. Actually, I respect you with all the utmost respect, brother, but I feel what you just said is not true and that's why I came up there to even argue with them.

Speaker 2: 6:41

I asked them personally. I said man, ever since this Drop your Flag Challenge challenge came out, I've been in three lives about it. Each live ended up with me and someone else yelling and them yelling at me about how la hates new york and we kill all y'all rappers and all this crazy stuff. I'm like, bro, y'all watching too much tv. It could be. So I'm like okay, name the rapper. They say biggie, tupac, pnb, rock pop smoke. I'm like bro, okay, name the rapper. They say Biggie, tupac, pnb Rock, pop Smoke. I'm like, bro you're talking about Biggie was 97. This was a real thing that was going on between him and Pac. And then Pop Smoke and PNB Rock are isolated issues that happened over 20 years later.

Speaker 1: 7:17

Yeah, that's for sure, that's for sure, yeah and they're all hip-hop related.

Speaker 2: 7:21

None of them are gang related. It's not like Pop Smoke came out here and went to the Bloods and got chipped or went around the Crips and they did them in like Nipsey. That's not what happened. He got a robbery. It wouldn't matter where them dudes was from, right PNB Rock, it was a robbery. It had nothing to do with PNB Rock, it was the Bloods or Crip or anything like that. So that, so I don't see why they even keep mixing that. Oh no, you're talking about me no, no not you, no, not you, not you.

Speaker 2: 7:47

I'm saying the whole, as you say because you said you asked me the question, you said how I feel about this I'm telling you.

Speaker 2: 7:52

this is why I even joined the conversation. So I went to the library to say let's first and foremost separate the the hip-hop uh concept. And it's bigger than hip hop because, like you said, it's dudes that you may know, that's real bloods that say this. I hear it too. So I asked them personally. I said, man, have any of y'all regardless of what you heard from your homie or whatever have any of y'all got off the plane, went to LA as representing some clique there or whatever, and they beat your ass and ran you up out of there. They said no. I said so where's this coming from? It's coming from, like, the internet or hip hop. You know interview types. You get what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 2: 8:33

Like it's really not too many cases of this you hear. Like really, and I use myself. For example, when I traveled on the East Coast as a crip, I was embraced I'm not talking about by everyone, I'm talking about by the people under that banner. Now, does that matter? Because the rumor is not that we don't get embraced, it's vice versa. It does matter because the same guys I saw there that I hung out with in LA you get what I'm saying. I saw this hey, what's up, bro, you coming out. So it's like what happened is one dude out there, crew may come to LA and get beat up or have a boring time. Then he goes back and says this oh yeah, la don't like New York. No, nigga, nobody likes you. People say LA, new York, florida or wherever you with. You know what I'm saying A corny motherfucker is a corny motherfucker. So the thing is in that sense.

Speaker 2: 9:31

I can't agree. I'm not trying to glorify the rag or none of that, I'm just speaking. The truth is that they're using these things to create concepts. That's not true. And then I would say this too my homie said this. My homie said there's also people on the East Coast that push that narrative in order for them to have full control. So they'll be like LA, homies, is tripping. This is what we're doing. You get what I'm saying. So it's like they'll promote that in order for them to take the gang and do whatever they want to do with it. You know what I'm saying. So it's like. But the truth is, if you think about it, if you just think oh, here go hokers, right here, peace, peace. Yo, I was just handling some business and shit. Okay, yeah, we live right now, man, we happy, we so happy to have you, man, for sure you want me to email it or something.

Speaker 2: 10:26

That's cool, all right, peace, yeah. So the point I'm saying is this and I'm so glad he called divine timing. The point I'm saying is that right there, there, this, think about what I'm trying to say. There's an idea that that doesn't happen, that when he calls me I say what's up, new york nigga? He says hey, la big homie, even though he's blood on a crib. But you get what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 1: 10:46

Like there's a 40 concept.

Speaker 2: 10:47

That doesn't really exist, bro, and I understand it. I've even heard my homies talk like that. I'm not going to act like black, but this is a black thing. This ain't got nothing to do with LA. Every city I go to, dudes talk pop. It ain't the real. But I'm saying, ron, you know, just like I know an Army veteran can say we're the Marines, you're not hard right, that's just shit talking. I'm saying in the actual transaction of the culture. When Jim Jones came to LA, we was happy, bro.

Speaker 2: 11:17

When he came to New York, we was happy. You know what I'm saying. That whole Biggie thing, that was a real thing. You know, the point I'm saying is going into this and I feel like it's the perfect time for him to come in. Going into this. I was just showing up to clear up. Let's not let the Internet speak for us or the media speak for us. We know when boots on the ground, we all support this, even the West Coast homies, you know.

Speaker 1: 11:40

Got you, got you. So we got a brother.

Speaker 3: 11:46

Hulk is four, fifth in the building. What's going on for fifth yo? What's good brothers? What's good crim, jesus and the other brother I don't know your name, bro ron, ron, ron. What's going on, ron? Salute to y'all. Thanks for having me, thanks for inviting me no problem, yo um hocus.

Speaker 1: 11:59

I want you to talk about drop the flag challenge. What's that about? And um, you know, you know, build on it a little bit yeah.

Speaker 3: 12:10

So the drop my flag challenge was something that I started because, um, I sat back and I thought, because I've been doing this work for years and we see a lot of our younger brothers get indicted on these rico cases, I was even in a conspiracy case in New York. I sat on Rikers Island four years and I beat mines. I was acquitted, you know, on a gang case, on a sex money, murder case, blood case, right, I was one of the you know, alleged leaders of it and I wound up getting acquitted. So when I came home, I promised myself that I'm going to do this work and I've been, even though, like you know, I feel like I've reached people at times and there's a lot of brothers out here doing this work. It's just not enough. So I wanted to really sit back and think what is it going to take you know what I mean for us to really put a wedge between us, the streets, and the Rico and the gangs?

Speaker 3: 12:59

Because you know the FBI, the federal government, because the FBI, the federal government, no matter how we look at it, they got us listed as criminal enterprises. We know that we're not. We know that these gangs are not enterprises at all. It's crazy, right, but they have gotten so many convictions from it. They already proved it. I did an interview today for Fox 5 News Y'all going to see it coming out next Friday. I can say it now because I did it right and Chef G Lawyer was on there with me and he said you're right, hocus, they got the bloods and crypts and the database of criminal enterprises.

Speaker 2: 13:32

Oh, wow.

Speaker 3: 13:34

Yeah. So we can't change what they got right. But what we can do is put down these gangs. Start something new, a new foundation that's not built on criminality, because Start something new, a new foundation that's not built on criminality. Because if we keep breeding in these gangs, all we're doing is setting up the next, you know the next generation to go right into the prison system. It doesn't matter how positive we try to make it sound, that's what's going to happen.

Speaker 3: 13:56

Not everybody in the gang commit crimes. Right, and they say it's not. They give us this it's not illegal to be in a gang. But how is it not illegal to be in a gang when you're already labeled a criminal enterprise? It sounds like some CIA set of shit to me. You know what I mean. So that's what was my driving force starting to drop my flag. I led the way by saying you know what? I wasn't even really gangbanging in the last 15 years anyway, but I never publicly denounced it. So I'm going to say I'm going to publicly do it and then I'm going to try to bring my peoples along with me who get it and pull out as many people as I can and those who stay, because I know everybody's not going to drop their flag. Hopefully we can all work together on building something new. We went from the Black Panthers to Bloods and Crips. Let's transition into something new and step away from this Rico. That's my, that's what you know, what I want to do. I want us to step away from the Rico.

Speaker 1: 14:47

Alright and now? So what's the plan Like? So now, drop your Flag Challenge. People are dropping their flags or they're joining the challenge online and things like that, and offline. What's the next step?

Speaker 2: 14:58

So the other, yeah, go ahead bro, no, no, go ahead, no, go ahead. Bro, no, no, go ahead, no, go, get your stuff. You know the next step, not me.

Speaker 3: 15:05

No, no, no I mean I kind of just said it in a nutshell is that we do need to build something new. Now it's a lot that come into that. Like I do have a Hold on, yeah, my foot. I got to get a GPS real quick. Shit, my bad. All right, I'm not ready to give that entirely to the world yet until it's packaged right. But in a nutshell, you know we have to start something new, something new that's built and it can start with, like I done did it in the last five years I started something called the rabbit hole right, and the rabbit hole is a community of critical thinkers where we, you know, we talk about any topic you could think of and we come up with solutions and we help each other.

Speaker 3: 15:47

We do retreats, we do like, when a disaster happened in North Carolina, we went out there with our own money. I just now, you know, turned into a non-profit. We went out there our own money, gave people that. We went to another place in North Carolina and and we talked to the youth the same type of work you know we're doing now. So when I say we went to North Carolina for the floods, for the hurricane, we gave people water shelter I mean not shelter, pardon me. We gave people water, clothing and what else. We gave people so much stuff. We just had a. We had cars full of stuff and we just gave it to them. You know what I'm saying With our own money. So that's basically a solution. It's not the solution, but it's a solution.

Speaker 3: 16:30

I think the youth, a lot of the youth, need mentorship shit. We we grown and we not exempt from mentorship. I still get mentorship to this day and they need it. They need the big homies to turn into big brothers, bro, and some of the big homies is big brothers. But we have to be like, honest with ourselves. We know the criminality part is a part of it and it's brothers that's taking advantage and using, you know, to get the shit to their advantage. We have to be honest. So maybe if we built this new foundation that yo, if you ain't following these rules, you can't be a part of this, and whatever that may be and, like I said, I started with the rabbit hole, I've been started with that and whatever that looks like, we can have a discussion about it.

Speaker 3: 17:14

I don't want to be the one to say I have all the solutions, but I know this. We need immediate ceasefire, immediately. We need to immediately stop killing each other, stop committing black genocide. We need to. You know what I'm saying. We need to immediately stop shooting up neighborhoods where kids play at and grandmothers go to stores. Two grandmothers got killed this year alone inside of Harlem. Both parades got shot up already the Dominican parade and the what do they call it? The West Indian parade got shot up. Multiple people already like this year, like don't, nobody want to go to no more parades, come on Like. We know this shit. We got to stop acting like. You know I understand that question, but people acting like because it's not an immediate solution, like it's an immediate problem, like if we don't stop now, they could come indict us tomorrow, next week, next month. So we have to do something. I'm just. I just raised a lot of you know, made a lot of noise about it because something had to happen and I'm happy we having a conversation.

Speaker 1: 18:18

Okay, so what do you suggest? I mean for people like just civilians, or what have you and and and uh former gang members themselves to do right now, with this climate, right now, where the younger brothers are out here shooting each other and things of that nature? Man?

Speaker 2: 18:38

you know it's like an immediate action well me, me being still outside rocker say this it starts with patience. I going to tell you why it starts with patience. A lot of people who've been involved in these movements give up because they don't see the change. It ain't fast enough for them. After three, four years they're like man. I've heard every excuse. I've watched people die in my face because when you go in too hopeful and you don't, we have to understand that these problems we have come from centuries. I know we like to act like it don't and that doesn't matter, but it does. It's a brainwashing. So it's not a whole night Meaning that I don't think we should.

Speaker 2: 19:21

I'm not trying to go against the momentum of the conversation, but I don't think we should rush too fast past the drop your flag challenge. I think the internet has a way of making you think something's popping more than it may actually be. You get what I'm saying. So we got to really get on the ground, and this was me and him discussed last time. We're not trying to make it like the drop your flag take over revolution, because that would just be another war between the raise your flag, drop your flag, right, yes, yes. So that's not what we're here to do. This is something that's been going on for years, even it's been going on with him for years. It's even been going on with me for years. I don't necessarily use the terminology drop my flag. I raised the flag up, but I for sure dropped the crime, dropped the pimping, dropped the killing, the cease and the fire, the drop into the idiocracy. So therefore, me and him have the same goal and this is why I made sure I showed up on his platform to let him know.

Speaker 2: 20:20

There's nobody I've spoken to on the west coast, in any group. I don't care about an individual, I'm talking about group settings, people, influential you got what I'm saying 20 people, 30 people, my homies in San Diego, the Bay Area, seattle, the West Coast no, they're rocking with this. So we can't let the fact that maybe a couple dudes have a little more exposure because they're in the Hollywood area and they got a few more viewers or whatever, they don't have nothing to do with these guns, they don't have nothing to do with these schools, they don't have nothing to do with what's going on with these doctor offices or these welfare offices. We're talking about real life shit. You feel what I'm saying? So you can't get distracted by that.

Speaker 2: 21:00

So I just think the first step is making sure that we get everyone focused on this. You know what. We get everyone focused on this, you know, I mean, we get everyone aware of it, what it means, what's going on. You know, uh, sure, and prove. So that's why I came, you know, to lend my side, hopefully people that's tuned in with me. Oh okay, yeah, I heard something about that, but I'm looking more into, I'm glad to see, you know, I'm saying like the awareness of for me well.

Speaker 1: 21:25

Well, I mean, you know this platform can be used for the drop the flag challenge. I don't mind that. You know what I mean. As you said, using the internet as a vehicle to to push the agenda. You could do that here, that's for sure. Um, however, I'm also looking for an immediate, because the brother says something has to happen immediately, right? So what's happening right now in the streets, to where you know the kids are doing what they're doing, I mean I could, I could attribute it to the music, the drugs. You know what I mean. Like the music has changed over the years. You know it's like super ganged out. It wasn't like that some years ago. You know what I mean. As it is now, you know where. You know, with the trend of the Chicago drill music coming into, you know, kind of changing hip-hop, in a sense, it's its own genre now and it's inspiring the kids to go out there and do certain things. You know what I mean.

Speaker 3: 22:24

So you know I'm sorry. Sorry bro, I thought you was landing go ahead yeah, I landed, yeah go ahead.

Speaker 3: 22:30

You know what I spoke about this on an on a um you know interview today too on fox five right. So I said that I think that every mother that has a dead child from the from the last five years in the drill music in nyc should file a class action lawsuit against the record labels. How is it that us right? They want Hocus Pocus to be responsible, as I am now, as a grown man, right to be responsible to try to lead the way for this youth. But these are the people that have the money. Billionaires, billion-dollar corporations are funding records that have people that's dead inside of the song and the song is being pushed, it's being funded, it's being backed by a billion-dollar corporation. Now, every mother.

Speaker 3: 23:14

Why is it that if a gang member send a big homie $40 in jail, he's liable to be indicted in a RICO and say he funded the gang? But the record labels, why are they not in a RICO? They actually funding the gang, but the record labels, why are they not in the Rico? They're actually funding the game. This is what they're doing, and then they fund both sides. You have one label assigned this person, then you have the other label assigned the op and then they put insurance on them, and so what you're saying, I love what you're saying right now, because I talked about this earlier. Man, this needs to be discussed.

Speaker 1: 23:52

It needs to be brought to the forefront, and I'm glad we're talking about it right now. So so this is a good point, because I thought about this some years ago. So how can we bring these record labels up on charges now? Would it be that we have to galvanize our people to go down to those record labels and maybe protest and put it in their face and get some news coverage behind it? How, how, how is that possible, and I would love to be down with that.

Speaker 2: 24:12

I think, not bad. But I think that and this is not even just about promoting myself this is the reason why I wrote the Blue Bible. I think that comes from understanding who and what we are. I think if we understood those numbers and those colors and those symbols went to our ancestors and had true, powerful meaning, we wouldn't give them up to the devil so easy. Who convinced us to think, oh, that's just hippity, hop, don't worry, let me get that. We don't realize we're giving up our spirit and our soul. We're taught that oh, nigga, come from slavery. We don't know it come from nigga, I don't think we'd be, and I'm not sure it come from slavery. We don't know it come from nega sanaga, I don't think we'd be, and I'm not sure you know.

Speaker 2: 24:48

I understand with time of consciousness and rap. Maybe that ain't the answer, I don't know. But I'm saying to me for me, as the more I understood myself and I don't just mean myself as in like, oh, I got the knowledge I'm saying the blue bible specializes in street knowledge so the more I understood that the level of value of these terms, these colors, and how they were using them to get to convince us to kill each other and to sell dope, but because they have a hypnotic, powerful trance over where to say something stupid is put a finger in the bud. You like? Ok, I like that line because the drum, because the voice texture and all that. When I learned the science that was being used to blood suckuck the poor who's the ones on the tracks, and I just lived it. I think, and I'm going that deep with it, I think it's the spiritual thing with that. I think until we understand the spiritual qualities of our voices and music, that we'll just keep giving, not us as a whole, because you know what's cool, ron, I don't think us as a whole is with that shit.

Speaker 2: 25:48

It's a very small minority that they find it's not a lot of Uzi Verts walking down the block. You dig what I'm saying. But they'll find that one motherfucker he's from Philly at that but they'll find that one weird dude in Philly that'll be the Uzi. You feel what I'm saying. They'll find the one skinny crip Of all the buffed up prison crips in LA. They found the one skinny crip that wanted to be a pimp. When I was growing up we didn't even like pimps. So they'll infuse this pimp shit, this killer, psychosis, serial killer shit. They'll infuse it into our culture and I think when we understand that, we won't be so quick to feed into that, because I think a lot of these dudes, when you go to the studio and kick it with them, they don't think they're doing nothing wrong.

Speaker 1: 26:24

They think it's a shit. It's going to take a while to get that message out and for people to understand it. It's going to take some time. We're talking about an immediate action. The Hocus Forfeits was saying get these record labels indicted. Now I was saying or civil suit, because we know that's going to be hard yeah, get them indicted. But if we can, let's do it.

Speaker 2: 26:50

Yeah, or civil suit. Civil suit with all the mothers that children was victims, because their families are facing financial crisis, especially the ones where Dead sons names in songs.

Speaker 3: 27:01

Think about it like this he's right.

Speaker 2: 27:04

Think about King Von's kids. Think about you, get what I'm saying. He's right. Think about King Von's kids. Think about you, get what I'm saying. Like, he's right, bro. Think of the families of these rappers who they were literally promoting. Shoot him, shoot him, shoot him, shoot him. Then he goes down and the family's suffering. The record maker's spending all the money.

Speaker 1: 27:21

Right, indeed, indeed. So yeah, I'm listening.

Speaker 3: 27:25

Let me say one thing, and you know why. I think it'll work because what they're gonna try to say is oh well, there's a freedom of speech, they get to say what they want. But however, science proved this. Science proved that your um, your brain, is not developed to you 25. This is why a lot of the brothers who got life sentences when they, when they was in their early 20s or teens, for murders, this is why they letting them now, because they're saying that science says that they wasn't even mentally, they didn't really know what they was doing.

Speaker 3: 27:53

So how you giving you, giving a child a million, two, three million dollars, rapping about somebody dead? Now all these kids think that's the way. Oh, I got to get out. They think they have to have an op and they think they have to put them in a song and that's how they get lit. So it's not their fault. So you can't say it's their fault. I mean, if they take this approach I'm going to keep pushing this until these mothers take this approach, they'll get those We'll see a change. We'll see a change with the music, I promise you.

Speaker 1: 28:22

Right now. Now, how would you? How would you organize that, though? Because you know I'm interested in that myself. So how would you organize that?

Speaker 2: 28:27

like I think because the drop your flag thing is a challenge. It's not like me walking around the streets saying I challenge you, right. So it's the internet thing, I think because the space is in, is is. I think you know what's crazy. I'll lobby the best planner. I even think the corny shit I uh adam 22 did gave it some pop culture attention. So I think it's. I think this is a good angle to come from. I think if we can weave it into even songs you know what I mean this is part of the hip-hop, even if it's just like remember when they, even if it's somebody talking bad about it, if it's some New York gang dudes, how you feel about it, oh man, we don't fuck that it's like. As long as it's weaved into the pop culture culture, I believe it becomes part of the conversation.

Speaker 2: 29:05

It was conversations like we're having being had on, you know, Breakfast Club or whatever you did.

Speaker 1: 29:10

Yo so Hocus. What about coming out with a song for that?

Speaker 3: 29:14

So I'm actually working with a producer right now and you know a popular producer you know, shout out to Charlie Rock. I can say his name. He produced for a lot of people in the industry and he, you know, we're going to put together, he want to put together a whole album. So I said, you know what, let's do it, because I understand you know the power of music. So if we're going to battle it, like you said, they throwing this music at us we got to combat it with the music that you know, the frequency that we talking about, and music is frequency, so we have to do that. So that's guaranteed. Crypt Jesus, I don't know if you get in the booth, but if you want to be on this project, you know what I'm saying. More than welcome to.

Speaker 2: 29:50

You don't know if Crypt Jesus get in the booth man. You better turn that motherfucking Spotify, apple Music.

Speaker 3: 29:56

YouTube Now we listening.

Speaker 1: 30:01

Listen, son is nice.

Speaker 2: 30:02

Hey Hocus, I just dropped the album. Remember, I said on your live my opinion matters from the West Coast, because I'm part of the East Coast too. I wasn't just popping it, I just dropped an album called Blue Tang. Now, just because I'm a Wu Tang fan, I'm up under Killer Priest. I'm part of this group of Royal Priesthood.

Speaker 3: 30:19

So I'm already up there man.

Speaker 2: 30:20

Yeah, yeah, I be in Medina, mecca, all that being the world. As a matter of fact, shout out to Sarah Needle from Australia. She sent me some bread because I told her I wanted to send y'all some copies of my joint, the Blue Bible, and what this does. This goes through what you're talking about. So we, on the same frequency. It breaks down how Crip when Raymond Washington formed it not here to tell no fairy tale oh, the Black Panthers got infiltrated. Blame, blamed everything on the white men. No, that ain't what happened. They arrested the Black Panthers, these youth that was gangbangers, that was trying to imitate them. Did they think it was poison from the jump? So what happened was a brother who's actually a. Check this out.

Speaker 2: 30:58

A more science temple sheik named Danifu Kareem Bey wrote the Constitution for Crips in 72. We don't follow that shit now. You got dudes over there making up their own knowledge and books and all of that you dig. This shit's all lost. I talk about how the Stones was out here pushing the Jeff Fort Morris agenda. Then that got locked into the conflict with the Crips. Then that turned into Bloods Crips. This is all lost in the sauce of the drug dealing the guns, the beef, the ego and the lack of the knowledge.

Speaker 2: 31:29

So what this book does, instead of saying, just you know, uh, just leave it alone. I'm trying to give people an understanding of why you was even like that you dig what I'm saying. Why you saw that crescent moon and star and that five and got so entranced you ain't just a dumb monkey why you heard the word nigga or cousin and blah. This is all things from our culture. They corrupt you. It's like they give the swastika. You give the swastika with the other direction, in the motherland, and it was positive. So that don't mean that I go against you and say, nah, don't drop the swastika, pick it back up. I ain't saying that Nah.

Speaker 3: 32:12

I it back up. I ain't saying that now I'm with you, let's drop the swastika, but I'm just saying let's let them know why are we dropping it? Because these was poisoned, you feel? I'm saying I love, I love that, bro, I love that. Send me your um, send me a link to, um, the apple music link. I'm gonna, I'm gonna bump that while I'm working.

Speaker 1: 32:20

And yeah, your album, let's just yeah, yeah that that that last, that last album was fire, fire. We. We did an album review on this platform, on this joint, so Hocus. I want to also talk about Drop the Flag. What's the response from the public? With the Drop the Flag challenge, I noticed Adam-22 did something and I'm going to be quite honest with you, I don't really like Adam-22. Adam 22 did something and I'm going to be quite honest with you, I don't really like Adam 22. I think he exploits the people and he does it worse than Vlad could ever do it from my perspective. You know what I'm saying. And it's just nasty. It's like tasteless garbage on his platform. And you know, he, he, he said that. He said something about. He was basically trying to make a joke about someone, one of his friends, or something like that. What tell me about that? Break that down.

Speaker 3: 33:16

Well, well, all I'm going to say is this Right, you know this ain't getting you know, religious, not like that, but I'm doing God's work, you know. I mean, I believe that I am a God, that we all are Right, that, but I'm doing god's work, you know, I mean, I believe that I am a god, that we all are right. And every and um, every time, you know, god put his works, his magic, the devil comes. You know, I think this guy even got a baphomet tattered on him or something, right?

Speaker 3: 33:35

so like that, yeah, that that was just some devilish shit, bro, like that it's nothing. It's nothing that anybody can say that could justify that. He would just make it. You don't joke on Black murder, especially someone who's trying to limit that, someone who's trying to lower the homicide rate in the Black community, because that's what I want to do and that's not what I want to do. That's what I've been doing for years For dudes that don't even know me. I'm going to say this and come back to Adam.

Speaker 3: 34:01

I've been doing this in my hood, when I was banging, when I was in my 20s or in a different neighborhood, like nah, we ain't doing that, like I've been on this type of time. It just amplified now because I became a popular figure. So when he sinked in and he did that, it's just straight disrespectful and you can't. If anything, what? Why? I think Styles P was was saying it's just like hey, yo just check him like yo, if, if you sit next to him, like if I sink that over here on the East Coast and I was sitting next to a white brother of mine, because I got white brothers too If I had a white brother that did that, yo, bro, you was out of line, bro, you should apologize, like them brothers over there, whatever they got going on over there, even if we agree with it or not, he's trying to like from killing each other, which we need to stop. So you wrong for that, bro. That's all we wanted to hear. Like nobody, nobody want to go back and forth with the west coast and have it turn to the east coast and to the into the brothers up there. I got love for all. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing ignorance, I'm not responding to anybody trying to make it a negative thing. This is a positive movement and if, how and if who, and.

Speaker 3: 35:04

And to answer your question on who, what's the public response? I say 75 percent positive, 25 percent negative. And on the rail, you know probably more than that, because I get a number of positivity. You know I got a lot of celebrities chiming in. You know I got a lot of people just homies that's in the federal prisons, homies that's in state prisons. I got homies that said, um, that's all around this country, that's a lot of homies on the West coast, that's blood and crim hitting me up.

Speaker 3: 35:32

Some, I know don't know supporting it. Um, most of the non-support is backbiting behind my back, but it is something that's verbally saying. They probably just like I. They don't understand what I'm trying to do, yet some people need to see it first, and I respect that, and I even respect the people who don't agree. I don't want to fight y'all, so come on, I did this to raise awareness. Now let's have the conversation. So help me, come up with a solution, because I do. Got the floor right now. I got the people's attention. You know what I mean, so help me. So when I go, yeah, go ahead, brother.

Speaker 2: 36:05

That's where that's the problem. It's jealousy. He got the floor, he got the attention, he's saying something positive, so the devil want to come in and say something negative. So that way, whether the devil's right or wrong, it's the topic now. Oh, you saw what Adam said. Oh, let me go look it up now. Oh, damn, you see it, dude. Now we getting off the. You dig what I'm saying. So even I've been guilty of seeing Adam's wine and falling under it. And look, let me say this because he's right. Not only is Adam the devil, but it's not a metaphor. Check this out.

Speaker 2: 36:36

Let me go to the Blue Bible. This is why this book is so important. It's relevant right now. Page 39. It says when the Corcoran people of Adam first arrived in Egypt, they were searching for luxor, the city they had heard so many myths about. It's similar to when the youtuber adam 22 flew to chicago to visit the notorious oblong.

Speaker 2: 36:54

It wasn't until after my no jumper interview that I began to study adam 22. Immediately I noticed his devilish ways and his surname grand maceon. He is of a family of men who taught napoleon to shoot the nose off the fakes of africa. They endorsed the decapitation of our ancestor, king louis 16. They were, and likely still are, affiliated with the illuminati. Let's break that down. Before a television, when this thing was sitting up as a symbol of our power, that his ancestors and I'm talking this ain't no thousands of years ago, he just shot the nose off. This was a couple hundred years ago. So his ancestors, the grand mage, was right there. Oh yeah, shoot that off, make it look like this. So what I'm saying is he was born and groomed for this to take the image of God and defecate it Talk about it.

Speaker 2: 37:44

This is what he's born to do, since a child, god. When I showed him and his tattoos to my enlightener, domino La G-Body Shoutout, he started pointing out. He said oh, that symbol means this. That symbol means that he got all type of symbols all over his body, that those that understand the signs and the symbols know what they mean. But those around him just think, oh yeah, he's just a white boy skater dude. It's not a coincidence that he has a porn studio right there where he interviews the rappers. Bro, it's the same combination Def Roe had going on with the Jewish lawyer in the back.

Speaker 1: 38:13

Well, you know what I'm going to make. A suggestion to Hocus. I don't know I I don't know how you want to go with this Adam 22 thing. If you want to just squash it, leave it alone, don't even talk about it again. You can, however, man, what the brother just said going down the rabbit hole, pause the rabbit hole right. You could, really you could break that whole thing down on rabbit hole right.

Speaker 3: 38:39

Most definitely, I love. That's basically what he did. He went down the rabbit hole, right, almost definitely, I love, I love that's basically what he did. He went down a rabbit hole with it, right? You know, I mean critically think, think about. That's why, you know, when he went, jesus jumped on the platform.

Speaker 3: 38:51

I see he got knowledge yourself. You know, I embrace him because, like yo, bro, that's what we are, we critical thinkers, and we see, we see y'all coming. So, yeah, I think that, um, we could talk about it if y'all want. But I don't want to get. You know, I'm not going to like, I don't want to keep talking about him because this is what he want, that's what he want. And then to play, he don't mind, he don't. This is what they do with their trickery. This is their magic. Oh, they throw us stones and hide their hands. Oh, I was just playing. Oh, I didn't mean it that way. I mean, look at us, look at our people. Now They've been doing to us forever. They gave us fucking sheets with hip fillers and said, oh, we're sorry, we didn't mean to do it. Come get the. What do y'all think y'all talking to?

Speaker 2: 39:30

me? Yeah, because what it is is. This is all politics and their goal. So by him throwing himself in the conversation, he becomes part of politics. This is what the agent that pays him wants him to do.

Speaker 2: 39:46

The truth is, you have no say so in our politics. The corny dudes around you trying to make it like you got some type of say so in our politics when you don't and that's what it is. You know. I mean, and if you notice, a lot of the topics he talks about on his show are internet topics. Who got into it with who on the internet? It's not what's going on in the actual boots on the ground backyard, because he's not there. He's not invited there, he's just not there. He doesn't even know where he's at. It's the real deal. You see what I'm saying. So by doing this, it gives him a way to even become part of the conversation. That when his minion sits down with him and explains to them what we're talking about and all that we don't got time for that. You know what I'm saying, because the truth of the matter is right across the street there's a kid getting shot. Right around the corner there's a school getting shot at. We're trying to stop that. That's what we're worried about.

Speaker 1: 40:33

And on that note I want to bring it back to the immediate thing we can do to kind of like sway the crime a little bit. You know what I mean Like how can we change things immediately? You know what I mean. Like, you know I have some ideas myself, you know. But what do you think? Hocus Forfeits like immediate things that we can do to make a change.

Speaker 3: 41:00

Immediate things that we can do to make a change? That's a good question, right? I think this is something that's going to be hard for our community to understand at first, but someone brought it up during our live Crypt Jesus was on. It is to sit down with members of law enforcement and go to them and, like you know, members of the criminal justice, and go to them like yo, look, let's work together and help to clean up the community. It's going to take older brothers like us, because the youngest, they just out there wilding and what can y'all, how can y'all help us? Right, how can y'all help us? And we help y'all.

Speaker 3: 41:38

So I can't say it right now, bro, I actually got a plan and I got a meeting with some people. I can't say who and what right now, I just don't want to because I don't want people to know right now. But that is sort of what we need to do. We have to wedge that gap you know what I'm saying and get back to community, because this unique police is going to be there regardless, regardless. They're going to be there. So we have and what I'm saying is not an old solution someone tried to come up with like, yeah, we need to have police in the community or we need to become police. No, we just need to stop doing what we're doing. And what they're going to do is they're going to do things for us just because we're stopping doing what we're doing, meaning we're stopping the crime and stopping the shootings and with that they're going to help us. That's all I'm going to say. It's never.

Speaker 3: 42:33

No, we don't work with them to put brothers in jail. We try to help brothers get out of situations. You know what I mean. We help brothers, prevent brothers from going to jail, like you know what I mean. If y'all want us to, you know, stop, which they do, because their bosses crack down on them when it's a high crime area. So they need solutions for that. And there's people like me, people like you, Crypt, jesus that have connections to the little dudes, younger dudes in the hood like yo. Look, if y'all can stop this, then this is what they'll do for us. Do you know what I'm saying? So those conversations is being had and y'all gonna see it rolling out.

Speaker 1: 43:09

You know what I mean, what's the need at least? Yeah, I wanted to ask. I wanted to ask.

Speaker 2: 43:17

I think that we can't always rush to a new beginning. We have to see the ending as well. So I actually think this conversation is the immediate answer. I don't think the immediate answer is to go right outside. I think that's where we've been messing up, because gang intervention, or studying gangs and trying to figure them out, has been going on for about 100 years. Actually, I got a stat right here years actually. I got a stat right here. They said there's a book by author named thrasher, 1927, called the gang a study of 1313 gangs in chicago.

Speaker 2: 43:48

It's in the 1920s, bro, so this is something that's been going on in the us for a long time 13 13 man, bro, and I think this is one of the first times in that whole hundred years that we see something that's directly from the people themselves saying stop, not saying intervention, not saying let's do it different. Saying let's stop, let's organize in a different fashion. We've tried this for a hundred years Thank you that?

Speaker 3: 44:16

is the immediate answer. That is, like everybody, like you said, everybody wants some instant coffee man. Like anybody want. Like he said, anybody want some instant coffee man. Like, oh, okay, what's the sushi? Okay, what's the yo, bro, we don't. We just need to stop. Like you know, people are still going to have like. So if someone wants to walk away from the gang I've rarely said this and it makes sense If they want to walk away from the gang right now of them, stop helping them eat. I thought we was about community anyway, so it's fraudulent anyway. If it's like that, well, where they supposed to go? They're supposed to go right there, with the homies still holding them down. But yo, I don't want to be a part of gangbanging, I don't want to be a part of the criminal activity I don't want to have, I don't want to op, I don't want to sell drugs. Well, well, let's help him do something else if that's what he wanted to do. That's what I thought we was about.

Speaker 1: 44:57

You know what I'm saying right hocus, I got two questions for you, so the first. The first question is is being that you were a part of bang bang boogie, uh, and you're doing this, this flag challenge. Do you have any connections with mice on? Is he helping now is, what's, what's your relationship with my son?

Speaker 3: 45:15

well, you know I was um, I was the one who started bang Bang Boogie with my brother, po. Rest in peace. You know, mice is my brother. Mice has his.

Speaker 3: 45:25

I haven't spoken to him about this, but we differ in political views so sometimes we clash, but I would never, you know, I would never disrespect him publicly or nothing like that. But that's my brother, so we didn't speak about this shit. He's doing his own thing, like he has his way of helping out. He got to boycott Black murders and he's doing his thing his way. You know, he was never a part of gangs, so this is kind of my lane. Like you know, this is what I did for 25 years. So you know we haven't spoken about this shit, though I think at some point we do need to come together. You know him. I think at some point we do need to come together. You know him and my brother had an issue. So that's probably why we ain't speak yet and it's not even it's a.

Speaker 3: 46:06

It's this back and forth internet shit that gotta stop too. You know, cause that shit build shit up. But we gonna speak. We eventually gonna speak and we have cause. We have to cause how we gonna. We got anything each other feel about each other? How we gonna tell a youth to stop killing each other? And we can't stop. Put our pride to the side to have a conversation as brothers. You know what I'm saying, helping them to stop killing each other. That's where it starts.

Speaker 1: 46:30

That's what I'm saying Hold on, brother. Let me just get the second question so. Being that in New York City there's a plethora of different gangs, right, and now you know, with the YGs and all of that, that's a whole different group, a different generation. So how do you get them to drop the flag? Being that, you know, I mean you come from a different generation.

Speaker 3: 46:59

I think that I think that the youth, youth, they will follow once they see it. And let me tell you why. Right when ygs, when they they big on like, they'll become big like on rikers island in the streets. But when they go up north to prison, they almost every time switch to a blood game because it's it's more structured than discipline. You know I'm saying it's more structured than discipline. You know what I'm saying. It's men like you become it ain't no more gladiator school. You're a man now. You got to move a certain way. You got to move with certain respect. You can't just be young and doing whatever you want and wilding out.

Speaker 3: 47:31

Now, if we could take that mentality to the street, but without the gangs, they will fall in line If they see a bunch of. That's why I said we got to build something new, a new foundation that's not built around criminality, that's built around discipline, not disciplining someone, but you being a disciplined human being. You know we not disciplined. In the hood Ain't nobody really disciplined making sure. Look, you got to really be disciplined yourself. Actually, like I get up and I go to the gym seven days a week now, right, I do that now. I started doing that for a couple of months because I want to discipline myself. I know some people might say well, you know, you got to give your body a rest. It ain't even about that. It's about me just getting up doing things that I don't want to do. That's discipline. I don't want to do it, so I'm going to do it right.

Speaker 3: 48:15

If you could get in the habit of doing what you don't want to do, every successful person in the world moved like this. I'm talking about every person that you know that has that was not just successful financially, but that became great. Every single one. They had to do what they didn't want to do, you know, during their hardest moments, and they need that mentality and they see a bunch of men moving like that. They're going to want to be a part of that and they mentality and they see a bunch of men moving like that. They're gonna want to be a part of that and they're not gonna want to go to jail, be away from their girl. We're in a social media era. These little dudes don't want to be away from their little girl. Who's gonna be poking that thing out on instagram and knowing she's gonna get a thousand likes, they want to be hit home with that man. They know that, so they'll. They'll follow. I. I believe that they'll follow once they see a bunch of men moving how we're supposed to be moving, you know.

Speaker 1: 49:01

All right, now I mean Crip Jesus. That was my two questions. I had another one. But Crip Jesus, you can go ahead.

Speaker 2: 49:07

Go ahead. I was just thinking about it.

Speaker 1: 49:13

So there's another person that I know from the Bronx. I saw him on Adam 22. Hattie Racks. Now, Hattie Racks, are you in connection with Hattie Racks and if you are, can he get behind this? Drop the Flag Challenge.

Speaker 3: 49:27

Hattie Racks, that's my brother man, that's the bro. Hell, yeah, like you know, hattie hit me. Hattie, you know, definitely I got Hattie's support. You know Hattie's the number one who's doing. You know that's my bro, but he's doing his own thing. So it's like when I got a lot of bros in the streets, that's all that's in the music industry that they support, but they just watching they doing their thing. It's like that's Hoke, that's Hoke thing, right there he doing that. I think as it grow, naturally everybody's just going to gravitate towards it. I don't think we need to. You know, reach out to everybody like yo, you need to get behind this, you need to get behind this. I think, as it grows, I want it to be organic. Anyway, you feel me, bro.

Speaker 3: 50:06

So that's my brother, though Hattie Rack's my brother, so you know he support If I, if we throw an event or something.

Speaker 2: 50:16

This is why it's got to be organic, ron, because there has to be people on both sides. There has to be people that are still in that say, hey, man, let them slide. Hey, man, chill, you get what I'm saying? Yes, because, like we said, if it becomes aggressive where it's like, yeah, leave them dudes alone, we're right here, we got you, and it becomes a conflict between the two Right Right now.

Speaker 2: 50:43

I know from the discussion we had the other day, from the discussion I've had with the homies, it's the support behind it because it's understood that, okay, these are the people that don't want to do this anymore. Ain't nobody trying to throw you in the car and force you and then you telling on us, right, like, we're not in that era, no more like it's, this thing has changed. We're in the Rico era, everybody going down. So there's a lot of og that probably themselves used to recruit people and throw them in the car and force them. That's not with that right now. You know I'm saying so. Uh, I say that to say if someone decides, I'm cool, right, we've seen people, friends, beat them up for leaving a sports team or something. You know I'm saying so. If someone decides they're cool, there has to be people like his brothers, who are still involved, that can say, hey, man, let that dude slide, you know? I mean, or like how he said, if this dude's having issues, saying, look bro, I love y'all, but I'm really here because I'm doing bad, I don't want to be involved with this, I'm not with all this. There's got to be somebody there that's down with both sides saying, oh yeah, it's cool, bro, you can still sleep here. You know what I'm saying? You ain't got to do it. There's got to be somebody that understands the movement. The thing is there's already people that transition and do all that, but they don't get the support necessarily.

Speaker 2: 52:04

When we talked about it the other day and we summed up the whole three-hour video, we said I said to me it's not. The mission statement is creating that safe space. It's not to rush to create this ultimate thing. You feel what I'm saying, because I've always been told the biggest sin is not just telling a person what they doing wrong, but telling them what they doing wrong and then not giving them an option and just leaving them in limbo. You feel me? So we want to just create an option for people and then we're under the understanding that that will evolve. You feel what I'm saying. That for sure will evolve, because we all I know me being from the West coast, where it's harsh, where dudes is living and dying by it Even they're saying I feel it, homie, I feel the same way. I don't want my kids in it With that type of voice and all that. That's what they're saying, so everyone understands that it's about saving these babies For sure.

Speaker 3: 52:57

That's a fact. Listen, fellas, if you got one more answer I got to. I definitely got to run.

Speaker 1: 53:09

Well, thank you, hocus, for coming out this evening. I really appreciate you. I definitely want to build with you on the drop the flag challenge, some things that I got access to a place in Castle Hill right on Westchester Avenue, and you know a space, so you know I don't know if you want to utilize that for anything.

Speaker 3: 53:23

Okay, bro. Yeah, Are you from New York?

Speaker 1: 53:25

Indeed, indeed. Okay, I didn't even know that. All right, yeah, yeah, yeah, indeed, we spoke a while back. You probably don't remember. We met in person a while back. You probably don't remember you know like? I met you on Castle Hill in front of Stiles P's In the juice bar. I met you in front of the juice bar.

Speaker 3: 53:45

Okay, all right, yeah we met.

Speaker 1: 53:47

Oh, that's love.

Speaker 3: 53:47

But you know, I'm in the A. You know my situation right now. I'm trying to make it up there, though I got some people that are trying to pull me up. It's going to happen, so I'll be up there. And then, yeah, on bill, you could um, you could uh, um, crib jesus, send him, bro, my number all right, yeah, yeah, I got your number. Okay, all right. All right, my brothers y'all already know salute, we could do this again. I just had you know, I just gotta run.

Speaker 2: 54:11

I couldn't be here long all right, all right, all right, peace, peace yo send me that album.

Speaker 3: 54:17

Crib jesus, don't, don't forget. Yes, sir, all right, all right.

Speaker 2: 54:20

You're ready. So you know just how a lot of work, because I've been hearing about him. You might have heard of me Then you know we linked to another thing. Did I hit you up? Did you already you know what I'm saying? Y'all back together. So, like I said, to conversation, because this is so new, it's happening in real time really. That's why I look at what Adam and them is doing. They're trying to get ahead of it. As soon as you hear about it, you're hearing about them.

Speaker 1: 54:49

Exactly because it's all about the algorithms now, Exactly, yeah, I peep game man. I see 10 steps Now with you, we had discussions about doing a podcast on, on, on a blue bible. I think we should do that. Let's do that before we cut out what we already put that out in the ether, so let's just make that happen. Um, thank you for coming out this evening. I really, I really appreciate you. We got five minutes. If you want to say anything, give people your um, your book, you know whatever you want to do.

Speaker 2: 55:24

I appreciate y'all too, man. When I say y'all, I mean New York, the whole city, man, and, like I said, bro, I feel for every black child dying. So I'm never here to glamorize the flag, I'm just here. A lot of them speak truth. So I'm here to speak my story. Like I said, I was embraced in new york. You know, I saw dudes help people cross the street in the name of whatever you know I mean.

Speaker 2: 55:50

So I say all that to say our intention, even with the whole thing from the jump, was always some type of unity. You know that got derailed. And now the whole point for us as a people now there's crips, now there's bloods, now there's gds, now there's Crips, now there's Bloods, now there's GDs, now there's Vice Lords, but there's one people, there's one nation to reunite back together. So this book is not a Crip book, it's not a gang book, it's a book about that reunification. You feel what I'm saying. You got yours right. Indeed, yes, sir, yes sir. So seeing in the flesh. So you know, I mean, uh, tap in, help us get this movement all around the country and all around the world. Really, you know, and uh, we can resurrect our people from understanding themselves and even though they do stay in, it can still be of a positive force. Like myself, you know. I mean I walk through south central right now hey, what's up? But ain't nobody telling me hop in the car, let's go smoke something, something. You know what I mean. Like everybody knows what I stand for and I did that on purpose, to prove to the world it's not what you think, it is, it's ourself. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2: 56:49

It's dudes killing the drug dealing down in New Orleans that ain't about to pick up a blue or a red rag. You know what I'm saying. It's a problem that we all came through in the 1980s. Came through in the 1980s. You know what I mean. The whole thing with the Rico, like I told the brother he does with the Rico. They just didn't call it Rico, they called it gang injunctions. I'll talk about that in chapter 13 of the Blue Bible no chapter 10, as a matter of fact. And I'll talk about how Rudy Giuliani himself came to LA and taught the legislators what he did with the RICO take down the Italian Mafia. They did that, reworded it and made the gang injunctions Okay. So this is a real thing, it's a serious thing and that's why we support them, because we already know what they're about to get hit with. We already seen it, you know.

Speaker 1: 57:35

Indeed. On that note, we're out of here. H Crip Jesus, please don't click off. I want to talk to you after this is live and we are out of here.

Speaker 3: 57:49

Peace.