Theology of Time - Eric Muhammad

Hungry for clarity on discipline, destiny, and who gets to define both? We start with a simple challenge—one meal a day while living an athlete’s schedule—and turn it into a blueprint for sustainable change. Instead of crash-cutting from three meals to one, we outline a measured path that respects workload, metabolism, and sanity: remove meals gradually, extend fasting windows, and make the single meal count. The payoff isn’t just better energy; it’s a mindset that treats restraint as a skill you build, not a stunt you suffer.

From there we open the lens to the Theology of Time and why chronology steers belief. Drawing from the Nation of Islam’s 1972 lecture series and the history of Mosque Maryam, we explore a core claim: every prophecy and nation has a term. That frame recasts how we read Moses, Jesus, and the Mahdi; how we map scripture onto Black life in America; and how we understand the role of America as the modern archetype of Babylon, Rome, Egypt, and Nineveh. We dig into the NOI teaching that God is man—with hierarchy determined by knowledge, wisdom, and understanding—and explain why “God in the person of Master Fard Muhammad” sits at the center of this era’s claim to authority.

We also challenge narratives designed to blunt that claim, dismantling rumors about imprisonment and borrowed facts, and showing how such stories aim to sever power from its source. Practical study meets practice: the “lessons” as concentrate and the books, lectures, and articles as the water that makes them drinkable. We clarify the seven works published during Elijah Muhammad’s lifetime, parse how prayer and Quranic reading are approached, and connect media imagery to self-concept—because who plays the gods on screen shapes how we see ourselves off screen. The throughline is consistent: read the time correctly, build capacity in steps, and accept your own to be yourself.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Opening & The One-Meal Struggle
• 1:17 Transitioning to OMAD Without Crashing
• 4:24 Introducing The Theology of Time
• 8:58 NOI History, Mosque Maryam, and 1972 Lectures
• 13:40 Why Time Is Central to Theology
• 16:59 Asiatic vs Gregorian Timeframes
• 21:15 Defining God as Man in NOI Teaching
• 26:40 Prophecy Terms: Moses to Mahdi
• 33:05 Debunking Farad Prison Myths
• 39:10 God in the Person of Master Fard Muhammad
• 46:20 Scripture as Present Prophecy for Black America
• 51:10 Books, Lessons, and “Concentrate” Analogy
• 56:00 The Seven Published Works Clarified
• 1:01:25 America as Modern Babylon

Transcript

SPEAKER_02: 0:10

What's going on, everybody? Out there is Ron Brown, LMT, the People's Fitness Professional, Reporting for Duty. Thank you for Minister Eric Muhammad for coming through this evening and being consistent with the platform. Really appreciate you. We were just talking offline about uh my journey in into the teachings. I'm actually learning the teachings more in depth nowadays. And uh I've taken on the uh practice of one meal a day. However, it's been killing me. It's been killing me because uh, like for instance, yesterday I I I uh lifted weights in the morning, I taught cardio kickboxing, after that, I drove down to the Bronx uh and then um did karate down there for an hour, and the class supposed to go two hours. I after that hour, I was like, man, I was I was almost knocked out. So the brother was saying, explain what you were saying, brother.

SPEAKER_03: 1:17

I was saying that when you are eating more than one meal a day, if you're someone who only eats the three meals, breakfast, lunch, dinner, that the white man prescribes, you don't go from three meals a day directly to one meal a day. You choose one of the three meals, preferably not dinner, but you choose one of the two remaining meals, breakfast or lunch. You take that out. So let's say you choose to stop eating breakfast, then all you do is you eat, you still eat lunch, and you still eat dinner. You just cut out breakfast. If you are someone who would like it the other way, meaning you need breakfast or feel that you need breakfast. Okay, eat breakfast, but skip lunch, meaning you're making it a longer period of time between the two meals. That way, when you finally do cut out breakfast, you're already at one meal a day. So you cut out one meal at a time. Now, if you're one of those individuals who follows the white man's guidance of eating several small meals per day, let's say you eat five small meals, cut out one of the five, eat a little extra one of the remaining four, then cut out another one of the five, eat a little extra the remaining three, cut out another one of the five. Now you're down to just two. Make them, make them, make them count, and then eventually you cut down to just dinner and make it count. You can't play with it. You it one meal a day does not mean one snack a day, you're gonna get sick. It means one meal a day, not a snack, a full meal. That's how you do it. You don't just jump straight from several meals a day to one, and you certainly don't go from several meals a day to one every other day or one every three days. You don't even go from one every one day to one every three, break it down to one every two, and when you get used to that, break it down to one every three, and don't even think about every other day or every three days if you have a very active life. Like you can't do every other day, like don't even think about it. If you're that active, now you gotta wait until you have the metabolism of an office worker who doesn't do any heavy labor. No, then you can go there every other day and eventually every three days.

SPEAKER_02: 4:19

Gotcha. Got you. All right, makes sense. That makes a lot of sense. Now, um, let's I want to go into the theology of time, okay. Now, when when we when I speak about a speak out, speak about theology of time, what comes to mind for you?

SPEAKER_03: 4:38

What comes to mind to me is two things. One is a lecture series that the messenger began in June of 1972 and extended all the way into August 1972. Now there's some history involved in this. If I remember correctly, it was in 1972, and I have to say, if I remember correctly, because I was not part of the nation of Islam in 1972, I was a 10-year-old kid. Uh, so in 1972 is when the Nation of Islam acquired uh what is now known today as Mosque Mariam, but is really temple number two in Chicago, the headquarters temple of the Nation of Islam, with a loan from Colonel Mumar Qaddafi of Libya of several million dollars. The Nation of Islam purchased what I believe was an old Greek Orthodox church. It was one of the finest religious edifices in the country at that time, and we acquired that very large and very ornate building to be the headquarters temple of the nation of Islam, and the messenger chose that particular temple to give the theology of time lecture series. It appears from statements made by the messenger during that time that we had this, pardon my common language, but we had this big old temple, and it was not being populated as it should be. A lot of those chairs in that temple were looking like the chairs in my temple on a Sunday, and so there was an effort to pack the house that involved ministers traveling from different cities and bringing people to the temple to fill the chairs, and the lecture series seems to have been part of the marketing effort to get people in the chairs, because when it comes to the nation of Islam under the leadership, teaching, and guidance of the most honorable Elijah Muhammad, the more progress you make, the less people you attract. Because you're already hated on because you're going against the grain of what everybody else believes, and so you're hated on in the sense that it is desired by the haters that you not make progress. So they sit and they wait and they hope and pray that you won't be successful, and then when they're disappointed by your progress, by your success, the fear of the enemy makes them think, okay, I thought that the white man would have gotten at them by now, but I know the white man gonna get him now. He's not gonna let them do this, and so you scare more people away from you with progress and success. So being the most hated black movement in the country and having the finest building of any black religious set in the country, now you're making it harder to fill up the chairs, and so this was an effort to fill the chairs up, and the messenger spent several months delivering this basic summary of everything he had taught up until that time. The second thing it brings to my mind is the absolute most important aspect of his revelation from Master Farad Muhammad to us as black people. We have been taught whether it was Orthodox Islam or Christianity, no matter what our religious persuasion may have been, we have always been taught theology without time. Like the importance of time has been left out of our theological teaching, and so the theology of time brings to my mind the fact that the key element in theology is time, that time itself has a theological component, and that if you don't understand the theology of time, then you're out of step. And this is why some of us are trying to follow Jesus, some of us are trying to follow Prophet Muhammad of 1400 years ago, some of us are trying to follow Moses of 4,000 years ago, some of us are making up our own religion and uh our own theology, and we are following self-made leaders because we don't understand the time in which we live, which would dictate what theological exegesis is the proper one versus all the others.

SPEAKER_02: 10:49

All right, check. Now, um, to go into the next question. Now, this is off the top of my head. So uh, as far as theology of time, in my mind, I go to the Asiatic calendar and things like that. Okay, does that have anything to do with that?

SPEAKER_03: 11:07

It actually is saying the same thing, it simply is adding more understanding to what I just said because time is time, whether it's the Asiatic calendar or the Gregorian calendar, time is time. You understand what I'm saying? And so the Asiatic calendar gives additional understanding to the time. And let me give you an example. We are taught that the white man was given 6,000 years to rule, and that the particular 6,000 years he was given was between the 9th and the 16,000th year, meaning starting in the 9,000th year, all the way through to the end of the uh what the 15,000th year. So you got from 9 to 10, from 10 to 11, from 11 to 12, from 12 to 13, from 13 to 14, and then from 14 to 15. And once you get to 15, 15 begins the first year of the 16,000th year, meaning a 1,000-year period that begins after completing 15,000 years, all right, but in the white man's Gregorian calendar, the year 15,000 is simply called 2000 AD, but it's still time.

SPEAKER_02: 12:48

Check, got it, got it. All right, peace. All right, so let's go into the next question because you already answered the first question like thoroughly. I don't I didn't have to go into it, like uh so we'll go to the second question. How does he define the messenger? How does the messenger define God and how does this differ from traditional Christian interpretations?

SPEAKER_03: 13:14

I love this question. The messenger defines God as man, not spirit, not something immaterial, but man, that God is a man, that he has always been a man, that he will always be a man, and he specifies which man, the black man. Now, when it comes to the black man being God, some of us take that a little too far. The black man is God. Every time you look in the face of a black man, no taking anything away from that. You are looking at God. There is no God above the black man, there's nothing in existence that is wiser, more knowledgeable, nor more powerful than the black man. But there's a whole lot of black men. Every black man ain't as tall as the other, every black man ain't as strong as the other, every black man is not as fat or as skinny as the other. There is no such thing as a one-size-fits-all when it comes to man. So just as some men can only bench press 300 pounds, and other men can bench press 400 pounds. Some men are excellent basketball players. Some men couldn't hit a jump shot if the basket was three feet in diameter and right in front of them. You know, every man is not equal, but every man is God. But it doesn't mean every man has the same amount of knowledge, the same amount of wisdom, the same amount of understanding, nor does every man have out of knowledge, wisdom and understanding, the same amount of power, nor authority. If you have more knowledge, more wisdom, and more understanding, and therefore more power, you exercise more authority over those whose knowledge, wisdom, understanding, and power is less than yours. And so the black man who exercises the greatest amount of power and authority is the black man who possesses the greatest amount of knowledge, wisdom, and understanding. Now, that man is referred to as the supreme being, the king of kings, because we're all kings, but even though all of us are kings, we have a king. The lord of lords, even though all of us are lord, there is a lord over all lords, the God of gods, the all-mighty God. Each and every one of us is mighty and God, but there's an all-mighty God. There's always one among us who excels all the rest of us. Today, that one is Master Wallace Farad Muhammad. So that's how the messenger defines God.

SPEAKER_02: 17:06

All right, check. Understood. Now, on a third question, what roles does what role does time play in unfolding of prophecies according to Elijah Muhammad? I think you already answered that.

SPEAKER_03: 17:20

I think you already that was kind of answered, but the question you just asked, yeah, who put these questions together? Uh me. That's a damn good question, black man. Uh now, what time has to do with it, I can add to anything I have already said, and that's this. Some of us are trying to still follow Jesus. That's because we don't understand the role that time plays with respect to theology. In the Holy Quran, it says every prophecy has a term. It also says every nation has a term. We're taught by the messenger that the term of Moses' teaching was to be 2,000 years. So, what are you doing 4,000 years after Moses, still trying to follow Moses? Moses's teaching was not supposed to last forever, it was supposed to last for 2,000 years. Now Nimrod came 300 years before those 2,000 years were up and broke the cycle of Moses' civilization by 300 years, or cut it short by 300 years. So by the time Jesus came along, he found the Jews in such a hot mess. That's why he had all the problems that he had with them, because instead of there being a straight line between Moses and Jesus, there was a detour through Nimrod. Okay, so Jesus comes along. So we need to respect Moses, honor Moses, but we need to be with Jesus now. Jesus' teaching was supposed to last 2,000 years. It was supposed to last up until the coming of the Mahdi, who was called the Son of Man, the Comforter, and several other names. Now, 600 years into the 2,000 years of Jesus' term, white folk and those following white folk, poisoned by white folks, had the, I don't know what name I should call it, but had the situation for lack of a better term, in such a bad state that a crutch, a pair of crutches, needed to be given to the white man to extend the time from 600 years because the white man was about to mess things up to the point he wasn't even going to make it to the rest of the 2,000 years of Jesus' term. So Muhammad came as a mercy to the nations to give the white man a pair of crutches, spiritual crutches, so that he could make it another 1,400 years. And now that those 1,400 years are up, we are now living in the time of the great Mahdi, the Christ, the Messiah, the Comforter, the Son of Man, Master Wallace Farad Muhammad. The devil's time having ended in 1914. And so now we have a new Islam. We have a new civilization. We're being made or grown into a new people. America can't last forever. Rome didn't, Egypt didn't, Assyria didn't, Nineveh didn't. None of the great empires of the world lasted forever because every nation has a term. None of the prophets' revelations lasted forever. New prophets came after former prophets. Why? Because every prophet, their scripture, their guidance has a term. And as the Quran says, when its term comes, that's it. You can't extend the term, nor can you make the term end quicker than it is supposed to be in length. So that is the role that time plays. When you get a revelation, that revelation has a particular amount of time. And when that when that time expires, you get a new revelation, and it comes from a new representative of that new revelation. And the guidance in that revelation is updated to fit that day, that time.

SPEAKER_02: 22:32

Okay. And um, you ex you, you know, you could, you know, say what you want to say. Um uh, so it's a two-part question.

SPEAKER_03: 22:44

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_02: 22:45

Okay, the first the the curveball is this. So I've been doing a little research, and um I found that a brother by the name of Lucius Lehman, um who was considered the colored genius, met Master Farad Muhammad in in prison, and that Lucius Lehman taught Master Farad. Do you know anything about Lucius Lehman?

SPEAKER_03: 23:16

Well, that is a stupidity among other stupidities that I haven't heard about. That's one that's a new one on me. Okay, one of the latest stupidities that I was asked in a previous podcast from uh I think his name is John Morrow, and one of his pet poodles is Bilal Muhammad, who's now coming out with a book. Uh, you know, that Master Farad Muhammad, you know, his actual facts are from some world almanac in Washington, D.C. at the Congressional Library.

SPEAKER_02: 24:01

And oh, I think I heard about that.

SPEAKER_03: 24:03

A whole lot of other crap goes along with that. Mr. Morrow wrote a book, if that's his proper name, called Finding Farad Muhammad. I don't know what Bilal Muhammad, his pet poodle. I don't know what the name of his book is, but that stupidity I was familiar with. But some guy named Lucius teaching Master Farad Muhammad in prison. What prison? The only the only thing that is even anything like prison would be, I guess, the city jail that Master Farad Muhammad was locked up in in either Detroit andor Chicago, because he was arrested in Detroit, and as soon as he got to Chicago, he was arrested again. And every time he was arrested, he sent for the most honorable Elijah Muhammad to come where he had been taken.

SPEAKER_02: 25:02

Right here it is. I don't mean to cut your wisdom.

SPEAKER_03: 25:04

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_02: 25:05

This brother right here, Brent James, exactly. Um, I've heard there was a black scholar in prison with Farad in San Quentin. Is it in San Quentin? Because I know it was either San Quentin, California, I know it was in California.

SPEAKER_03: 25:19

Well, I would say to our brother, what we have as a saying in the streets, forget what you heard, because Master Farad Muhammad was never in San Quentin. Nobody can prove, document any such thing that Master Farad Muhammad was ever locked up in San Quentin. That is a lie propagated by the white man, picked up by the black man, that the messenger offered a hundred thousand dollars, if I remember correctly, to prove was the truth. Master Farad Muhammad was never locked up in San Quentin prison ever. Master Farad Muhammad was arrested in Detroit. He was arrested in Chicago. I don't know whether it was the city jail, the county jail, whatever. But I know they took him someplace, but he was not imprisoned even then. Prison is something you get when you've been convicted of a felony and sentenced to a certain number of years. He was never imprisoned, he was jailed. Hell, you're jailed when you're riding dirty in the streets and the police pull you over because your license is suspended. You're jailed, but you're not imprisoned, you're simply fined. And so Master Farad Muhammad was jailed in Detroit, jailed in Chicago, never jailed nor imprisoned in California. So that is an absolute lie. And when you talk about that, that is just something that you heard, but nothing that has been documented and or proven. And the reason you even heard it is to make you believe that Master Farad Muhammad is not the Christ, he's not the Messiah, he's not the Son of Man, and that there is no salvation in the black man in what he taught through the messenger, the most honorable Elijah Muhammad. And I know my answers are long tonight, but now I want to take it and get it even more down. Everybody, kemetics, Hebrews, Christians, orthodox Muslims, everybody who disputes in any way, in any form, in any fashion, anything whatsoever that the most honorable Elijah Muhammad taught, it has one aim, and one aim in specific or one end, one conclusion that is ultimately reached, and that is that the white man is not the devil. That's what it all boils down to. Because if Master Farad Muhammad, if any of what they say is true about him, that means he's not God, that means he's not the Christ, he's not the Messiah. What he taught is not true, which means the white man is not the devil, the black man is not God, the white man is my brother. So listen, let me say something, make it crystal clear. Anything you offer me that makes the white man my brother, anything you offer me, well, I can't say the other thing that I was gonna say because I don't want to get your channel flagged, but anything that you offer me that makes the white man not the devil, which means that he will last longer than the revelation says he will last, I'm not interested. I don't care what you say, I don't care if you say it in the name of Garvey, I don't say it care if you say it in the name of noble Jew Ali, I don't care if you say it in the name of Jesus, Moses, or anybody. If you're telling me that the white man is not a grafted man from the original man and a devil who was given 6,000 years to rule, whose time is up, and now he is to be completely removed and the black man put back in power over the earth. I don't care who you're talking about, I don't care what you're talking about, get it out my face.

SPEAKER_02: 30:00

Now, to go into that question, right? The two-part question, the second part, how does Elijah Muhammad explain the concept of God coming in the person of Master Farad Muhammad?

SPEAKER_03: 30:13

Ah, another excellent one. But it entails me doing some repeating. God, He teaches us, every God has been meat, bones, and blood. Now there is no meat, there are no bones, there is no blood that can last millions of years. And nobody, except the most foolish among us, with all of the scientific evidence, would claim that man, quote unquote, mankind has not been around at least a few million years. We know that the black man has no beginning, nor does he have any ending. For as long as the universe itself has existed, the black man has existed, because the universe literally comes from the black man. We are the maker of the universe, we are the owner, we are the cream of the planet Earth, and we're the gods of the universe. So we have always existed and will always exist, but there is no meat, there are no bones, and there is no blood that can last longer than a thousand years. So this means though every God has been a man, it hasn't been over these millions and trillions of years the same individual man. So there is always one from among us who is supreme in knowledge, wisdom, and understanding, and therefore exercises supreme power and authority. But the longest we have a record of any of those individuals living is around 1,000 years. But when one God passes from the scene, there is another who steps into his place, just like the presidents of the United States, just like the kings of various kingdoms and empires. And so in different eras of time, there have been different individuals who happen to be the supreme of beings at that time. Now, the messenger teaches us that when the first God created himself trillions of years ago, he didn't create himself perfect. Therefore, having not created himself perfect, but desiring the perfection of his creation, there was a desire for that perfection to be made. And the messenger teaches us whenever we desire something, we give birth to a child that will bring that something into reality, and that the longer it takes for that desire to be fulfilled, the stronger that desire comes, and the greater the child will be that is produced by that desire. So since the first God, there has been a longing and a desire to perfect his own make and at the same time to perfect his universe. And so after trillions and trillions and trillions and trillions and trillions of years, we finally produced the sun that will correct not only our own individual make, but that will also perfect the creation that the first God brought into existence. And this makes Master Farad Muhammad not only a man that God came in the person of, but of all of the individual men that God came in the person of previously, he is the greatest of those gods, he is the wisest of those gods, he is the most mighty and powerful of those gods. He is the God that breaks the cycle of up and down and back up and back down. What he will bring into existence will never come down. His civilization will be a civilization that will last forever, no more 25,000 years. So the coming of God in the person of Master Farad Muhammad represents the coming of the wisest, the greatest, the most powerful God who will correct everything that was desired to be perfected when the first God brought everything into existence.

SPEAKER_02: 35:23

Claire, loud and clear. Let me know if that's you. Anyway, let's go to the next one. Five.

SPEAKER_03: 36:54

Yes, sir. Uh he teaches us that from ding to dawn, from start to finish, beginning to end, cover to cover of both books, Bible and Quran, all of what is written in both books is focused upon this day and this time, and we, the black man and woman, here in the hells of North America. So, whatever you're reading in the Bible that you are thinking is history is actually prophecy, and the little that actually is history is only a history that serves the purpose of being a sign of what would take place in terms of prophecy, meaning future history. And so when you are reading about Moses, Pharaoh, and the children of Israel, you are reading about the president of America, peace, you're reading about the presidents of America, the United States of America, and the black man and woman in America. And when you are reading about Jesus and the so-called Jews 2,000 years ago, you are reading about our history here in the hells of North America. You can take everything you read in the Bible, everything you read in the Quran, and if it was one sheet of paper with something imposed upon it, you could take that and put it over another sheet of paper that is the actual history of the black man in America, and when you put one over the other, you'll see they fit exactly. Not like this, but like this. Everything fits because it's talking about us, it's not talking about anything of the past, it's talking about us.

SPEAKER_02: 39:05

Okay, now um, aside from supreme wisdom, does the messenger get into how to basically decode the biblical and Quranic text?

SPEAKER_03: 39:19

Yes, but I know what you mean when you say aside from supreme wisdom, or at least I think I know what you mean, meaning aside from the lessons, right? Yes, yes, this is why the messenger gave so many lectures. This is why the messenger wrote so many articles, published so many books, because what we call in God body plus degrees, that is what the books, the articles, the lectures, that is what all of that is. It is going into much more detail than the basic rudiments and fundamentals that the lessons represent. In other words, let's say you're trying to make some orange juice, the 120 is the concentrate, everything else is the water that you mix the concentrate into and produce the beverage.

SPEAKER_02: 40:30

Check. I noticed that that's how you build on your lives. You you go you're going straight to the roof, you go straight to the teachings, and then you build around the teachings.

SPEAKER_03: 40:42

Right. I take the concentrate and then pour water and mix it.

SPEAKER_02: 40:46

Okay, yeah. See, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm loving this.

SPEAKER_01: 40:50

I like that analogy right there.

SPEAKER_02: 40:52

Now you gotta watch his lives, you gotta watch his lives because he's dropping it in there. He's he's teaching me how I should basically articulate the teachings when it's time for me to do it. So um, yeah, this is great. So um, I had another question. So, yeah, I did a little research. If I'm not mistaken, the messenger produced 28 books that has his name on it that has like by Elijah Muhammad. 28 books, am I correct?

SPEAKER_03: 41:27

I don't know the exact number, but only seven of them were published by him. Oh, okay. Whatever the other books were pub uh are, however, that number, whether it's 21 or less than 21, more than 21, those books, if they were published by Mimps, Messenger Elijah Muhammad Propagation Society, they weren't published by the messenger, nor were they published during the time of the messenger, but you can't say they are not by the messenger because nothing but the words of the messenger the content, the theological content of those books.

SPEAKER_01: 42:12

I gotta crack at it, Ron.

SPEAKER_02: 42:13

I think the books hold on, real quick before you before you go there. The seven books, right? So I wrote all the books down, all 28 books down. Okay, the first the seven that you're talking about is from what I'm thinking is message to the black man, that's one, right? Two theology of time, how to eat the live no, not theology of time.

SPEAKER_03: 42:38

He didn't publish that.

SPEAKER_00: 42:39

That's a lecture, right? The lecture series.

SPEAKER_03: 42:41

That was a lecture series about the fall of America.

SPEAKER_02: 42:47

Yes, hold on, hold on, hold on. Fall of America. Uh so we got how to eat the live one and two, right? Our savior has arrived. Right.

SPEAKER_03: 43:00

Uh, the true history of master for supreme wisdom one and two represent the completion of those seven.

SPEAKER_01: 43:08

Ah, so how about the god tribe of Shabbaz?

SPEAKER_03: 43:13

He didn't publish that.

SPEAKER_01: 43:14

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_03: 43:15

The mothership or five, the mother plane, no, seven.

SPEAKER_01: 43:19

All right, secret relationships between blacks and jews.

SPEAKER_03: 43:22

Nah, no, we know that uh the uh research department of Farrakhan's movement published that.

SPEAKER_01: 43:30

Okay, gotcha.

SPEAKER_02: 43:31

All right, so this is perfect. So here we go Message to the Black Man, How to Eat the Live One and Two, Our Savior Has Arrived, The Fall of America and Supreme Wisdom Books One and Two.

SPEAKER_03: 43:42

Right. Those were published by the Messenger during his time among us. Other books, if they were published by Messenger Elijah Muhammad Propagation Society, MIMPS, Minister Nasir Hakim. Those books are also by the messenger in the sense that it is the messenger's words only that represent the theological content of those books. Now he includes his commentary on that content, but it's only commentary on content. The book itself is the teaching of the messenger.

SPEAKER_02: 44:33

Okay, so I can I can I'm about I was about to buy all 28 books. Okay, so let's go to the next question. Okay, uh right. What is the role of America in fulfillment of the end time prophecy? Now that we're going through all this stuff now.

SPEAKER_03: 44:59

The role of America in the uh prophecy is America is the archetype, S A T word, of the prototypical Egypt, the prototypical Nineveh, the prototypical Babylon, the prototypical Rome. All of the evil empires of the past are prototypes of the archetype of those empires, which would be the latest and the greatest of them all. At the end of the time given for the existence of them all, which would be this day in time, and the latest and the greatest one is America itself. So when you're reading about ancient Babylon, you're reading about America. When you're reading about ancient Nineveh, you're reading about America. When you read about ancient Rome and ancient Egypt, you're reading about America, and when you're reading about the roles that certain individuals and groups of individuals played, you're reading about the role that we play, the role that the white man of America plays. You're reading about the role Elijah Muhammad plays, the role Farad Muhammad plays, and the role that the believers in them versus the disbelievers in them and the hypocrites to them play. Anybody that would look at a picture that they are in.

SPEAKER_01: 47:50

That goes back to religion. Because when you look at the religious religious um texts, the images that they draw in the Sistine Chapel, they all represent Europeans, and that messes with your psyche where you believe that you are inferior because the European image of God or divine deities represents him or her, but you have no image.

SPEAKER_03: 48:28

I mean, you can watch the gods of Egypt, and what's my man's name? Who's the star that? I forgot something Renner, I think. Yeah, no, it was that the born guy's name is Renner. Well, I the guy that played in Gladiator, I believe. I forget this devil.

SPEAKER_01: 48:46

Russell Crowe. Russell Crowe, one of those guys.

SPEAKER_03: 48:49

No, it was the other one with the with the beard and everything. I can I forget his name. He's one of my favorite devil actors, but the gods of Egypt, the one, the one that was playing set, you watching the gods of Egypt, and everybody's white except a few token negroes, you know, because you don't have knowledge of self, so you don't know that that particular movie should have as a cast 90 plus percent black actors and actresses, and maybe a couple of crackers. I'm talking about the gods of Egypt. Uh no, it's another name here, you have to have knowledge that was uh in Ten Commandments, too. I'm talking about the gods of Egypt, that recent movie. Uh, if you don't know yourself, you can watch movies about the the the Trojan War, you can watch movies if there is any movie made about Hannibal and the Romans. You always think these Hollywood productions represent the people that actually were the people that the events of history were taking place of, where if it was accurate, it would have been cast with 90 plus percent black actors and actresses. But you're always giving these people uh played by white actors and white actresses, and if you don't have the knowledge of self, you think it was white people that did the things that are done in these movies. Gerard Butler, that's his name. Thank you, brother. You think Gerard Butler was Seth. Nah, all right.

SPEAKER_02: 50:46

Now, uh there was uh there's a question in the chat. I wanted, I but however, I wanted to go into this next question because it's it's near and dear to me. But you know, you know, you guys tune in every Sunday. Well, every time we have uh Eric Muhammad on. So, you know, this is for you. So uh how does theology of time and separation correlate?

SPEAKER_03: 51:11

Because we are living as the messenger teaches in the program and position of the Muslims, the part of the newspaper, whether it's our Salaam newspaper or Farrakhan's final call or anybody's Muhammad Speaks, because everybody, every Tom Dick, and Harry that claims the messenger has a Muhammad Speaks newspaper. If you look at what the Muslims want, what the Muslims believe, the most honorable Elijah Muhammad said, and that's the one of the most important parts of the paper. When we sell you the paper, we say make sure you read the Muslim program. It says, We believe that the time in history has come for the separation of the blacks from the whites of America. I'm paraphrasing. We believe that the time in history has come. Elsewhere, that separation is mentioned again. We believe that our people in North America, whose parents were descendants of slaves, should be allowed to establish a separate state or territory of their own, either on this continent or elsewhere. And then it goes into more details. But in the scripture, it says on that day, speaking of the judgment day, they will be separated. It doesn't only mean believers separated from disbelievers and hypocrites, but there is a people who are the chosen people of God that are swallowed up by the enemies of God, so that when God comes to destroy his enemy, he must separate his people from that enemy, bring them into a zone of safety so he can destroy the enemy without destroying his people. We are at that particular time in history.

SPEAKER_02: 53:24

Now, uh, what does he mean when he says accept your own and be yourself?

SPEAKER_03: 53:30

Oh, I mean, these questions tonight, brother. Yes, sir. You get an A, ding. I wish I had one of them bombs. The most honorable Elijah Muhammad teaches us that you could sum up the whole teaching that he delivered to us into six words. Accept your own and be yourself. Now he he teaches us what that means in a question and an answer. He says, What is your own? Your own is knowledge, wisdom, understanding, and a high civilization. High doesn't mean high, high means advanced. Knowledge, wisdom, understanding, and a high civilization. So when we say to you, accept your own, we are saying to you, accept knowledge, accept wisdom, accept understanding, which means if you're an uncivilized person and a poisoned animal eater, a slave to mental death and power, you don't know your origin in the world, you don't know the true and living God, you worship that you know not what, then you're not accepting knowledge, you have accepted ignorance. We need you out of ignorance and unawareness of self, accept knowledge, accept wisdom, meaning the ways and actions you use to make your knowledge known. Speaking wisely, the wise the dome. Accept wisdom and accept understanding, which is the best part of knowledge. Stop running your mouth and you don't know what you're talking about. Stop acting like you're a genius when you really don't have the foundation and the root in what you're talking about. Accept knowledge, wisdom, and understanding, and accept a high civilization, meaning the a civilization that is high, advanced in terms of the way you carry yourself, the way you look, the way you dress, the way you speak, the way you eat, the way you do everything. The nation of Islam is all wise and does everything right and exact. That's a high civilization. You know, don't be a savage, a person that has lost the knowledge of yourself and don't live a beast life. Accept knowledge, wisdom, and understanding, but also accept a high civilization. That means there's a lot of things you got to quit doing. There's a lot of other things you have to start doing. You have to advance, you have to elevate the level of civilization that you possess, accept your own. Now, in doing such, you are being yourself. What is your own self? A righteous Muslim. Well, wait a minute, I'm God. Yeah, you God. So are Muslims. Muslims are God. What are you talking about? Just because a Muslim is one who submits his will to do the will of God doesn't mean a Muslim is not God. Because there is a God over all gods, there is a king over all kings, there is a Lord over all lords, and so when all lords submit their will to do the will of the Lord of Lords, you call those gods or describe what type of God you're dealing with. What type of God does that? Muslim. When you're talking about kings who submit their will to do the will of the king of kings, what type of kings are you talking about? Muslim. When you're talking about any black man, original people, submitting their will to do the will of the one original person who is supreme in knowledge, wisdom, understanding, and therefore has the ability to exercise power and authority over others. What type of original person are you talking about? Even though each and every one of them is God. Which type, how do you describe what type of God they are? Muslim. So his own self is a righteous Muslim. So accept your own, be yourself.

SPEAKER_02: 58:40

Now I wanted to go into another question. However, we have about two minutes, but uh it seems like there's like a bunch of questions there now. Hold on a second. I one stood out to me, though. Uh I want to know how you would respond to this. Ask um uh brother, why is he not well versed in the Quran? I don't even know if you would know that or not. And uh Elijah Muhammad was uh was taught in practice salat. I never heard that before. Uh the messenger made Hajj in practice a lot. That was that's the first time I heard that. You know anything about that, brother Eric Muhammad. Now, let's be clear.

SPEAKER_03: 59:35

First of all, and even if I sound kind of salty, word is bound to Allah. I'm not, I'm just dealing with reality. Why would you tell me about me? You don't even know me. Don't tell me about Eric Muhammad. You ask me about Eric Muhammad, you out of order, you out of line, and if I wasn't on this brothers podcast. I would very, very, very blank, blank, blankety blank, put your behind back in line. You're gonna tell. Let me show you how crazy you sound. You telling me I'm not versed in the Quran. I've been Muslim for 42 years. A Muslim reads the entire holy Quran if it's a Muslim that's up on his game, you read the entire Holy Quran at least one time per year. For Orthodox Muslims, that one time a year is during Ramadan. So if you've been an Orthodox Muslim for 42 years, how many times have you read the entire Holy Quran at least 42 times, right? There were times when I read the Quran two and three times in the same year. I have literally read the entire Holy Quran at least 50 times. Minimum 50 times. This year, when I read it, it was during the month of March. I read the entire Holy Quran in 28 days. You give yourself 30 days because the Quran is separated into 30 parts. It ain't like when I say once a year, you could start reading it in January and finish it in June. No, when I say read the whole Holy Quran, I'm talking about in a 30-day period. One part each day equaling 30 parts at the end of 30 days. When I read it, I generally finish it a couple of days early. Okay. I read it, I finished it on March the 28th this year. And that was at least the 50th time that I have read the whole and entire Holy Quran. But you're gonna come on a podcast thinking you know Eric Muhammad and tell me what I'm not versed in. I'm stupidly versed in the Holy Quran. Want to call my bluff? Get somebody you think is versed in the Quran and have them battle me. Okay, give me a break. Number two, the messenger did make Hajj to Mecca, and your point is did he make salat?

SPEAKER_02: 1:02:28

Does he make did he practice Salat though?

SPEAKER_03: 1:02:30

No, okay. The most honorable Elijah Muhammad taught us to pray standing erect in the do our position. If I remember that is the proper name for it, stand erect with our hands outstretched and in a cup as if we about to receive a blessing, heads bowed, eyes closed. That's how we pray. And one of the reasons, or one of the tools that his son Wallace D. Muhammad used to turn his followers against him was that he said the nation of Islam didn't practice salat, and that real Muslims practice salat. We were attacked, and when I say we, you can't separate the messenger from the rest of us, we were attacked for not practicing salat. So I guess if you can tell Minister Eric about Minister Eric, I guess you can tell Elijah about Elijah. No, salat was never a practice, okay, of the nation of Islam that was instituted. That doesn't mean there were not individuals who did make salat or knew how to make salat, but it was not something that was required by us, and 90 plus plus percent of us did not practice it, including the most honorable Elijah Muhammad.

SPEAKER_02: 1:04:09

On that note, thank you, Brother Eric Mohammed, for coming out this evening. I really appreciate you. I love building with you on this platform, and uh I look forward to my own personal journey dealing with the teachings. On that note, thanks to everybody coming out this evening. I really appreciate you. Nice to see you, Mikey Fever. Tomorrow, tomorrow, we got uh B Knowledge and his Earth on, and then after that, we got the Cosm Brother Cosmo L after that. 7 p.m. tomorrow night, eight p.m. tomorrow night, and we are out of here. Peace.