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Koran Questions For Moorish Americans- Cozmo EL
A single image on a book cover can hold a whole curriculum. We zoom into the Holy Quran of the Moorish Science Temple of America and read it like a map: the right-facing new crescent signaling a new era, the star within the womb, the Prophet stepping from the sea of the “cares of the world” onto the rock of salvation, humanity in his arms and the unborn future in her. Every symbol points to law, order, lineage, and a sober kind of mercy that is meant to be lived, not just admired.
From there we ground the basics with clarity. We treat the Moorish American Prayer as an affirmation—call-and-response that sets tone and opens the ethers—and we work through the first Quran Questions: who made you; who is Allah; can we see Him; where to meet Him. Allah is the God, known by what is manifested, and the nearest meeting place is the heart—not the muscle, but the moral center that moves us to protect, give, and act. We address common misreads without jargon, showing how a mnemonic like “arm, leg, leg, arm, head” teaches nearness by attributes rather than collapsing spirit into flesh.
The build turns deeply practical: higher self versus lower self as a daily, visible choice. The higher self births justice, mercy, love, and right; the lower self hunts to devour. Once you know there are two, you can watch them work and decide your alignment. That is resurrection as consciousness—rising from a dead level of unawareness to a living state of discernment. We then place the teaching in time and soil: Newark, 1913; Lenape and Delmarva roots; why the hyphen in Moorish-American binds jus sanguinis and jus soli—blood and birthright—to a lawful national posture. Islam here is not merely believed; it is established: creed, constitution, and self-governance standing together.
If this conversation sparked a shift in how you see the symbols, the prayer, or your daily choices, share it with someone thoughtful. Subscribe for the next chapter in the series, leave a review with your biggest takeaway, and tell us: which symbol on the cover speaks loudest to you?
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All right. So normally I do my little spiel, my introduction, but I'm not doing that today because uh this is uh uh uh uh for me the great meeting is on right now. You know, so so so let's let's I want to go into this. Um the Quran questions for Moorish Americans today. Uh thanks for the brother uh uh Cosmo L for coming out this evening. Mikey Fever is in the building. Cosmo, be salam. Now uh, you know, we were talking about pretty much making this as a making this as a series, right? We spoke about that over the phone uh because there are we have a 101 question and answers. So me, because I'm like into like details, and I've heard so much in my travels with dealing with the with the movement, being a part of the movement almost 20 years now. I've heard like a lot, right? So I want to start off with the front cover, right? What is this border about? Is that just a design?
SPEAKER_00:Um Islam again, you know, I always have to say that you're gonna have um varied degrees and layers. Uh as far as the the border more, I I can't speak on that. I'm not, I don't know of any special significance that it has. Um, however, uh there may be some, you know, there's still much wisdom to be learned. There's a there may be some science to that, but I'm not gonna make nothing up.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Can I can take a crack at that? Aesthetically, I'm hoping to that. It's like taking a rough stone somehow and chiseling away the fat, getting rid of the the edges and rounding it about, but we'll just leave it at that.
SPEAKER_00:Well, well, what I will say, when you look at to it, when when you look at it, you're actually looking into something. Right? So you it's uh it's a it's a vision, you're actually looking into a scene. Uh that's as far as I'll go with the border.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, okay. Now, um the uh star in in the the crescent moon um and Islam underneath it. Now the the um the the crescent itself does it have anything to do with the fourth quarter.
SPEAKER_00:Islam. So if you notice there's two crescents, there's one at the top, and under the under that it says Islam, and then there's one below it at the top of the Quran, right? All right, so obviously the one at the top represents Islam. Islam is among other things, which we'll we'll get into that, uh, based on universal law and principles, and so these symbols are symbols that you will see in the universe. You see the moon in the universe, you see the star in the universe. Uh so suffice it to say, the first one is Lamb or Islaw, where the one below it, if you notice, is kind of pointing down and shining on the whole scene there. And uh traditionally, the moon, uh, when you're looking at the phases of the moon, you have the waning crescent, right, which would be facing the other direction, like you have the the nation of Islam, you'll see that it will face towards the left, where this particular crescent is facing towards the right, which means it's the new moon, right? It's the new Hilal or the new crescent because it's a new era of time now, right? Which the prophet says this is a new era of time now, and all men must proclaim their free and national name to be recognized by the government in which they live in the nations of the earth. The the moon also represents the the woman or the the womb, the moon, because if you didn't have the moon in the phases of the moon, you would be able to make a calendar based on the woman in her menstrual cycle. So they're very closely related, and then you'll see inside the womb is the star. The star represents the sun, because the sun is a star, and so it also represents the S O N, uh S-U-N, S-O-N, which are related terms, and you see that it is uh shining light out of the womb, it's still in the womb, right? It haven't come come out of the womb yet because it's in the beginning stage. So uh there's a part on the lesson on religion where it says the Son is not Allah, though his noblest image, right? His noblest image, and we know that in our chapter 47, it tells us that no one can change us from our descendant nature, uh, unless his power extends beyond the great universe, created Allah Himself, and that we are made in the image and after the likeness, as we will see in the circle seven, at in the image and after the likeness of the great God Allah. Uh, so that's what I can uh demonstrate on that.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, so now we're it's gonna take some time for us to even get to the questions, all right. So now um, I mean the questions and answers. So the great meeting is on. Okay, what meeting are are we talking about?
SPEAKER_00:The great meeting is on. This is the great, you know, again, you're gonna have varied degrees. Um, but you have the uh coming together of the Asiatic nation, coming together of the 144,000 uniting of the Asiatics, the righteous people, uh, the this this great meeting. And if you look into the word on, uh it has uh significance in ancient times, um, you know, which related to the particular uh Mari uh priest, the priest of on, and which is also interchangeable with the term on. Uh, not saying that this is what the prophet intended, this is just uh observation. So the great meeting is the uh meeting. What I do know, uh, if you look to the left of it, you'll see the hand clasp of unity, and under it it says Asia. And so this great meeting refers to the uniting of the Asiatics uh people of the planet, right? Uh also you'll see that the great meeting is on, is in between Islam and Asia. So again, the prophet said he connected the wires, so he connected the Asiatics of North America back to Islam, right?
SPEAKER_01:Indeed. Now, the clasp, right? So now you know in Masonry they have different grips. Uh-huh. And in in the Moorish movement, there's a particular grip, right? Where the thumb goes here. Right now, is is that a connection to the heart, like the meridian that goes to the heart? Imprint.
SPEAKER_00:Islam. Um it is a connection to the heart. Um, a lot of people look at this uh particular, you know, uh what you're dealing with is a particular class, not everybody knows that class, but since you mentioned it, then I'm gonna go ahead and speak on it. Uh when you uh press that, you can actually feel feel the nerve uh that connects to the heart. Uh also uh some like to say, well, hey, this is a free Masonic uh type of class. But if anybody who knows anything about Freemasonry uh knows that um the class would be different, uh it would be going across on the knuckles, representing the first degree, third degree, second degree of the master mason. Uh so again, this this does relate to the heart, this does relate to love, it also does uh in in a sense relate to uh acupressure and uh you know the the increasing of the uh circulation uh to uh obviously the the heart and the areas that need the blood.
SPEAKER_01:So right. All right. Now, Quran questions for Moorish Americans. That's kind of like you know, self-explanatory. You already explained the second moon. Um now, no Buddhali. He is standing in front of a body of water, he's holding a woman up on her body. It says uh humanity, and then the water, the body of water has the cares of the cares of the world on it, and underneath the prophet says salvation. So he has like one wo one uh foot kind of just coming out of out of the water to save the woman, which is humanity. So if you could explain that uh description or depiction, uh you know, you know, you could take it away at that point.
SPEAKER_00:Islam, so uh even before we get to that, just because you mentioned Quran question for Moorish Americans, it is important to uh expound upon what the Quran is. And uh the we're talking about the Holy Quran of the Moorish Science Temple of America, not the Holy Quran of Mecca. Uh the Quran is a divinely prepared pamphlet. It is not meant to replace revelation of the Holy Quran. We have that as our uh the word of God. Uh, however, this was a divinely prepared pamphlet by the noble prophet to help reconnect us with much of the uh religious teachings and historic teachings that we had lost during the advent of slavery. And these questions are a uh synopsis, uh, so to speak, these questions and answers. Uh again, we talked about when someone comes into the United States to proclaim or the United States of America to become a citizen, there's a hundred question test that one must take. And if you don't pass this hundred question test, then you cannot be a citizen. And you can uh be a citizen only after you pass this test. And so uh the prophet brought not a hundred but one hundred and one questions. And these are for Moorish Americans, these are for those who want to know a little uh within the questions are some theology, uh, some ideology, some history, some uh uh mysticism, and uh to basically get us acquainted or reacquainted with the overall concepts of our nation and what we're getting into. So this is similar to that test. For one to uh truly understand what they're involved in, then they must master these questions uh in order to uh become a Moorish American uh or knowledgeable Moorish American, I should say. Uh so now uh the prophet Nobu Juali uh stepping out of the water, the water, and on the water you'll see it's written the cares of the world, the cares of the world, stepping out of the vast sea uh of the cares of the world. The cares of the world are also known as the common walks of life. Uh, the sea always represents society, right? Where um, for example, you have uh, you know, you have, how can I say it, uh, tumultuous waves in the ocean, or the ocean can be at peace. Society sometimes has tumultuous waves, and society can also be at peace. So that represents the greater society, the cares of the world, uh, being though the just the basic food, clothing, shelter, the rat race uh that mostly everyone is tied into. You'll see the prophet Nobu Juali stepping out, and if you look at at his foot, the back foot, you'll see it's actually out of the water. It's not still in the water, it's out of the water, but he's in motion, he's in motion, and he has one foot, the right foot, stepping onto the land, and on it is written salvation. Uh now, you know, you have those that will give you a law uh interpretation and saying, you know, uh Admiralty, law, water, so on and so forth. Um, but what I will tell you is there's a lesson in the circle seven, uh, chapter seven, where uh Jesus speaks to Lamas and he says, of understanding, what have you to say? And uh it says that it is the let me go ahead and just quote it exactly, but basically the rock of salvation, understanding, whatever you say, it is the rock on which man builds himself, it is the Gnosis of art and of naught, of falsehood and truth. It is the knowledge of the lower self and the sensing of the powers of man himself. So this rock of salvation is also um symbolizing understanding, and our salvation is in understanding what the prophet brought. Uh, the right foot, right in in Islam and Eastern cultures, always symbolizing that which is good, even to this day. You know, if you place someone to the left, right, that means you you're doing them dirty or you're doing something wrong. So he's stepping out with the right foot uh because he's righteous. Uh, it says Prophet Nobu Juwali, but in his arms he's holding a woman, and the woman is in an unconscious state, and written on the woman is humanity. So we know that the woman is symbolic of humanity. The prophet's goal is to pull, you see, she's dripping, to pull humanity out of the cares of the world onto the rock of salvation, which is the true understanding of why we exist. We don't exist on this plane to be caught up in the cares of the world. It's a consequence of being on this plane, and we have to deal with those things, but it's not our main purpose, and so uh she's still unconscious at this uh particular point in time, and also if you look a little bit closer to the woman, you'll notice that she has uh uh or potentially has a little baby bump. So there is actually uh potentially a child in uh the womb. And as the prophet has said, that this message is for the unborn, and that you know, those generations, three generations removed, will be the ones who understand what it is that he brought. So uh these are some of the uh symbolisms that you can uh you can draw from the very uh front cover.
SPEAKER_02:Can I summarize something? This sounds similar to Farrakhan's statement when he says no nation will rise higher than its woman because she's the first teacher, indeed, and and this is exactly the sentiment.
SPEAKER_00:In order to save humanity, you have to save the woman. Now, we are we are humanity, we are the first, uh, we are the the root, we are the beginning of all of humanity, and every every other nationality comes from us. That is a part of humanity comes from us, and so in order to get humanity straight, uh, we have to get our woman straight out of the realm of consciousness being caught up in the cares of the world, which means that we have to take on the responsibility of a lot of those cares so that she doesn't drown in it and that she doesn't have to be uh in it alone and taking on these things. And as you know, in in our community, not uh as much as they uh portray it, but you'll see a lot of single mothers taking on all the responsibilities of the cares of the world. And the prophet uh made it a point to speak upon the family structure in Act Seven of our divine constitution and bylaws, and to promote that family structure, husband, wife, and children.
SPEAKER_01:All right, all right, hold on. This will be this will be capped soon. Yeah, I see it. Yep, I got you. All right, so um now, so we went over that. It was 48 inches Mount Clements. Uh what is this? What is this? M I is that Michigan? This this far at the bottom. Does that have any significance?
SPEAKER_00:What what what was that? Was that a question somebody said?
SPEAKER_01:The the question was 48 inches inches Mount Clemens and my price 50 cents. Is there any any significance to that part?
SPEAKER_00:Uh Islam, you you would have to ask that brother. Uh the you know, that's a drawing that he's coming with. I'm I I don't uh I'm not aware of that particular science.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, okay. Sometimes people just make sense.
SPEAKER_00:Only what I know. You know, these are signs and symbols, and so signs and symbols are are things that can be uh interpreted, and depending on the different uh grand sheets that you're gonna be dealing with, everyone has their portion. There's gonna be different drawings, so I don't discount it if it's something that I I haven't heard. Uh you know, that's that's for whoever knows that drawing.
SPEAKER_01:All right. That's I like how you answer that. That's peace. Now, um the Moorish American prayer, right? Allah the Father, the Father, Allah, the Father of the Universe, the Father of love, true peace, freedom, and justice. Allah is my protector, my guide, and my salvation by night and by day through his holy prophet, Nobu Jali. Amen. Now, from what I've learned through um the brother uh Sharif and Ani Anil Bey, was that this prayer was more of an affirmation as opposed to like asking for anything. It was like more of like a command, like mantra, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Islam. Um I mean, I would I would agree with that. Um because it's saying it's telling you Allah is Allah is defining Allah, the father of the universe, the father of love, truth, peace, freedom, and justice. Allah is my protector, my God, and my salvation by night and by day, through his holy prophet, noble jewali. So it it it doesn't appear to be asking uh anything, however, it is reinforcing these concepts. Also, when the prayer is recited, it's uh usually done in a call and response fashion. And the call and response is an ancient tradition amongst the Asiatics, and it basically uh raises the ethers and opens up the ethers before every meeting with a certain uh tone and a certain uh frequency and vibration as we go into the meeting. So uh this is also the purpose of this prayer to raise the tone and to raise the vibration going into uh the meeting itself.
SPEAKER_01:Got you, got you. Uh Mike, Mike Taylor. Uh this is a Moorish build right now. Uh when we have the nation of Islam, we we we could build on the nation of Islam. Right now, we're building on the Prophet Noble Jali and the Moorish Science Temple of America. So now I want to go into uh the Quran question. Okay, now these three symbols right here, yin and yang, that's what it looks like to me.
SPEAKER_00:Where are you at? Oh yeah. Islam. Islam, Islam, yes, indeed. I mean, uh, again, the things can be uh interpreted. Uh there's three symbols, and we know what that means, right? Uh knowledge, wisdom, understanding, Islam. Uh, and this is reinforced also. Um, how however, there's also another uh level to that. Uh, wherever you see the three in um in more science, it it represents certain things. Salvation, Allah, unity, wisdom, will, love. Uh, there's there's a lot of tears when it comes to the the three. There's also the three-step ladder, and there's two three-step ladders: belief, faith, uh, faith, hope, and love, belief, faith, and fruition. So again, there's um there's there's layers to this. There's layers to this. That's all I can say.
SPEAKER_01:Gotcha. Check. Okay, Quran questions for Maurish Americans. Okay, question, uh, uh, question and answer number one: who made you Allah? Okay, and then number two is who is Allah? Allah is the father of the universe. Three, can we see him? No. Four, where's the nearest place we can meet him? In the heart. So what does that mean exactly, right? Because number four says, where can we meet Allah, basically, right? Or that's exactly what it said. We can meet a law within the heart. What does that mean to you?
SPEAKER_00:Um, I'm sorry if there's some noise in the background. Sound like somebody's doing some work over there. Um, before we get to the question, I do want to point out Quran questions for Morris children.
SPEAKER_01:Morris children, right?
SPEAKER_00:Morris children. And so uh these are the questions that are taught in the Sunday school to the children, but it's also known in the Moorish uh Science Temple of America that once we uh come into this science, we're all children in this science. We're all new to this. It doesn't matter if you have a PhD, it doesn't matter if you're coming from the prison bowels, it doesn't matter if you're a uh a genius or an inventor, you're new to this. You don't know this. So you have to push that ego aside of whatever accolades and achievements that you've achieved in the prior society and come humble as a child to be able to truly understand these things. Otherwise, those those uh accolades and those achievements will stand in your way of truly understanding what this is. Islam, Islam, Islam uh you don't have to get rid of it, you just have to push it aside to learn something new. Uh, and that's what sometimes people I've had, you know, when we had the temple in Oakland, I had a lot of uh, well, I won't say a lot, but several brothers and sisters come into the temple, some from the 5%, some from the Nation of Islam, some from uh uh, you know, black power. And when it comes time to build in on these questions, because they don't know it, they revert back to the degrees that they know. And some of those degrees do align, some of these degrees don't align. And uh so you have to be careful about uh trying to correlate things until you get a firm understanding. So uh to the questions who made you Allah. That question is is very significant because a lot of people have various understandings of who or what Allah is. So who is Allah is something that needs to be asked. Uh in the 5% community, and even now, since the advent of hip hop and uh uh other consciousness, you have a lot of people say Allah is arm, leg, leg, arm head, and uh this is what Allah means. Uh, we have to understand, um I'll and I'll get back to the arm, leg, leg, arm head. This is an Arabic word, it's not an English word, it's an Arabic word that have made its way into English with a transliteration. A transliteration means that it is uh carries the phonics of the language that it comes from into the new language. So though Allah is an Arabic word, it's not translated. To translate it would be to tell you what it means. It's all the transliteration is only bringing those phonics, keeping the same phonics. Now, the translation of Allah is the definition and the meaning. So, in order to understand the word, since it is an Arabic word that made its uh way into English by way of a transliteration, we have to understand what it means in Arabic. And in Arabic, it's a combination of two words, Al and Illa. Illa meaning God, in the sense, as best as I can make it uh plain in English, and Al being the definite article meaning the so Allah in a in a rough translation would mean the God. All right, uh Allah in English through the transliteration just means God. When you see someone translate Allah, it says Allah is God, but that's not what it means in the language that it comes from, it means the God, and then it further explains that who is Allah, Allah is the father of the universe. So when we say the God or Allah, we're talking about the father of the universe. Now, universes are not generally born through sex, so we know that father does not mean a physical father, as if a father of a child, it means creator, it means sustainer, which a father is a sustainer, it means protector, which Allah, which a father is a protector. So it we're dealing with the sim uh the the attributes of the the father and and Allah's relationship to the universe. So it says, can we see him? No, because Allah is a spirit, right? And someone say, uh oh, we're dealing with the spook god now. Well, guess what? Guess what? Guess what? I can't see you right now. You can't see you right now, you're not the body nor the soul. You are what's in you that is operating this avatar, and when you're gone, it's apparent that you're gone.
SPEAKER_02:Exactly.
SPEAKER_00:Right? I can't see you, I don't know the true you, I can only see you based on your actions. Then I get to know the real you, then I get to know your personality. If I just look at you, I don't know nothing about you because that's not you. You are your personality, you are how you act, you are how you behave, and that I can only see through manifested action. So, Allah, you cannot see Allah with your physical eyes, you can only see Allah through what He has manifested, and that's the Universe. The universe means all things, everything that's around us. Now, some may say, Well, I'm the God of the universe. All right. Well, if so, I'll put a challenge to you. My Allah is the Allah that causes the sun to rise in the east every day. Make it rise in the west.
SPEAKER_01:Well, they both one and they're both one and the same, though.
SPEAKER_00:We know the sun don't really rise, right? That it's the earth rotating towards the sun that makes it appear to rise. But what I'm saying is, I'm making a distinction between the Allah of the universe and the Allah God in English, the definition of the two things, right? Um, because one is is is is the God, the great God, dealing with the specific thing, but Allah has its meaning in English as God, which is how it's mostly used as just a generic term for God. Now, back to the arm, leg, leg, arm head. Where is the nearest place to meet him? In the heart. Obviously, not the physical heart. Right? See, we're not dealing with physical concepts here because spiritual concepts, you can't you can't contain them in physical. We're talking about the spiritual heart, the heart of your personality, the heart that makes you uh give charity to someone in the dust, the heart that makes you take care of your loved ones, the heart that makes you feel for another person when you see them in pain, even feel for an animal. When you feel these things and you feel these connections, you feel an Allah. You feel an Allah of the small still voice that speaks, and that through this, through this uh emanations, these emanations, we are able to get a better understanding of the Allah within us, which is what arm, leg, leg, arm head is to teach. It's not that the physical arm leg arm head, no more than it's in the physical heart, but it's an acronym created to teach us how close Allah is to us if we manifest the character and attributes of Allah through our limbs. So, and this is just on the first question because there is English is a very dangerous language to really try to explain spiritual concepts in concepts beyond materialism and commerce. So, so therefore, we have to go into the esoteric understanding and meaning of things to really get an understanding. And I think that's missed a lot, whether you be from the nation, whether you be from the 5%, whether you be from the Moors, these things get missed, and it's why you have people uh acting in particular ways. Uh, you know, I seen the post where where you had, you know, this is where you were back then. You was God and you had the cigarette and the drink, and you could do anything. This is what leads to those kinds of actions that I'm God, I can do anything I want. And it's not, no, that's a gross misunderstanding of this science. Uh, it's this it's as it's as a gross misunderstanding as it is to think that we meet Allah in the physical heart or that Allah is physically our arm, leg, leg, arm, head. These are teachings designed to teach us about something immaterial that we're connected to. Islam?
SPEAKER_02:Islam, can I say something? Hearing you speak, and I'm about to speak the more real quick mic.
SPEAKER_01:Can you turn your mic down?
SPEAKER_02:Oh, my bad.
SPEAKER_01:How about that? Yeah, that's good.
SPEAKER_02:Now, to say um hearing you speak and how you break it down, listening to both lessons of the more science temple and five percent teachings, even the nation of Islam, if applied correctly, and really like uh do your studies diligently. This those studies can really break down barriers where you could just move in between each who looks doing with respect, but it's just it's the same thing with different language, but these these lessons allow you to build on many things. Like they're they're not limited. Believe it or not, they they go from the physical to the spiritual and to the conscious. Like it's it's very deep, man. Just listening to you guys talk about I'm like, wow.
SPEAKER_01:Well, let me let me just just tell you my experience. Um me personally, I'm I'm really embodying the teachings, all of the teachings, like right now, this is all I'm studying right now. Like, I'm not even like I'm I'm I've made it a habit, like a daily habit, to the point where now I don't want to even see or look at anything else. And and and it's it's like doing something to my brainwaves, I think. Like, you know, it's it's giving me a better sense, a better level of concentration and a better sense of peace and happiness, you know, and love. Like I'm actually learning how to love. Like, like learning how to love instead of hate. I'm looking at that, I've been looking at that for years, and now this day, I'm you know, looking at it like, wait a minute. Yeah, I'm actually learning how to love right now, you know, because I really I thought I knew how to love. But what I'm what I'm like doing announced to my ways and actions and how I'm dealing with people and things, and I'm like, no, that's another version of love that maybe not be love, you know. So I'm actually learning how to love right now by having a better sense of peace and being more grounded, you know, through the teaching. So, you know, I just wanted to put that out there, you know.
SPEAKER_02:That's deep, and and you know what's so double-bodied, those who really do the studies are not without this love, are not online doing the craziness.
SPEAKER_00:This is called resurrection because it's it's you're coming into another level of consciousness, and resurrection is coming into another level of consciousness, being raised from uh uh, in a sense, a dead level, but when you're unconscious, you don't you don't know. Unconsciousness is not knowing, and so you're dead to those concepts, you know. But when when your eyes begin to be open and when you begin to start demonstrating them, we say, when the will of Allah and man are one, resurrection is a fact. So uh whether there's a physical resurrection or not, a lot of people looking for the physical resurrection, but you can be resurrected uh right here from the from the dead level of of uh unconsciousness to certain concepts into that that consciousness. You know, it's like for an example, when you're when you're asleep, when you sleep, you're generally unconscious. You might be dreaming, you're still kind of unconscious, but when you become conscious of the fact that you're dreaming, you're no longer unconscious, right? Because you can't be conscious and unconscious at the same time. So it's a it's a really deep thing that and there's and there's much wisdom to be learned, period, no matter what we know, because it's it's it's an everlasting gospel, it's ever expanding. So we're always coming in and being resurrected into to new concepts and new new uh knowledge of ourselves.
SPEAKER_01:Right now, I just want to say this, you know, not not to make it like I'm in church, like, yeah, the Lord save me. Not to make it, not to make it like that, you know. Um, however, you know, I I'm just as I'm reading a 101, you know, trying to basically cap everything, what stood out to me, right, was that the higher self, right? 70. Right, the higher self is the mother of all virtues, the mother, the mother of virtues, and the harmonies of life, and breeds justice, mercy, mercy, love, and right, right? That's the higher self, right? And then when I go to the lower self, the lower, what does the lower self breed? Hatred, slander, lewdness, murder, theft, and everything that harms. Now, I'm gonna skip past that, right? And I want to go to that to the lower self. 75. What was the answer that the lower self gave to the higher self? I am going to and fro the earth seeking whom I may devour. Now, that was so it it it it opened me up at that point because that's how I was kind of like moving around in my mind. I didn't realize I was in the lower self for a long period of time. Like I was kind of like in and out, you know. I I didn't realize that I was really dealing with the ego heavily, you know what I'm saying? And seeking to going to and fro, seeking who I can devour. Like it was like that's how I was moving around because I was like always competitive. You know, I wanted to crush him, I want to crush this person, I want to, I wasn't in my I wasn't I was in the lower self and I didn't realize that for a long I was in the lower self for a long time and I didn't I was kind of like tricking myself or so I don't know you know I I didn't realize what I was doing, but anyway, you know, that's it.
SPEAKER_00:And if you look at 70, uh what is the higher self? That's a that's a circle seven, right? Right, you got the circle and you got the seven right there, and so you know that's what the circle seven is the higher self teaches. The set the circle several represent perfected man, and that's man in alignment with Allah, that's man in alignment with the the Allah inside, and uh this is a secret that is only taught in uh six sacred orders that the prophet teaches publicly that we have more than one self, that we have a higher self and a lower self, because the common people think, oh, accept me as I am, that's just me. Accept me as I am. No, no, but the adept doesn't even accept himself or herself as they are, because we know that there's always constant refinement and refining that that we can do to try to align ourselves, which is our our business, to align ourselves with our higher selves. So this knowledge was something that was kept from us, just that alone, the higher self and the lower self, and and it just shows you the gravity of what Prophet Nobu Jali brought because once you know that you have a higher self and a lower self, once you know it, now you can see your lower self working, and you can see your higher self working, and you can make a choice. Which one do I want to be?
SPEAKER_02:That's a fact, yeah. The lower self is just in the comment section. That's the that's the lower self.
SPEAKER_01:I don't even want to, I don't even really want to address it. Just to let you know, anybody who comes on in comments to do all that, they're gonna get blocked and banned. Like, you're not gonna be that's the end of your you you can't even if you could look or whatever, but you can't comment.
SPEAKER_02:So but that's what I want to put out there because you got a lot of idiots out there that seek attention, lower self, lower than scum, how they function. This is true, like it's weirdos. Yeah, go ahead, my bad, bro.
SPEAKER_00:Some comes with the territory, family. That's that's that's uh without a photo fight, a soldier never knows his strength.
SPEAKER_01:So, you know, we the lower self is gonna be there, and uh exactly what the I'm going to and fro the earth seeking whom I can devour.
SPEAKER_00:Islam.
SPEAKER_01:So um that was peace. So now I want to now we went through uh I know we I was kind of jumping all over the place. Pardon me. So we went from uh the nearest place, see him. Okay, and we went to the heart. That heart was a great explanation. Now, through that in 70 and on in a 101, I know the difference. The higher self and the lower self is much more, I understand it much more after your explanation. So, um, who is Nobu Drew Ali? He is a law's prophet. Okay, number five. So if you want to, you know, break that down, you can Islam.
SPEAKER_00:Uh I think that's uh pretty uh self-explanatory there. I think the the the next question goes into it a little bit more.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, what is a prophet? A prophet is a thought of a law manifested in flesh. Okay, wouldn't you say um I would say from from how I see it, I would say all things would be thoughts of a law manifested in flesh.
SPEAKER_00:I'm sorry, can you say that again? You were breaking up a little bit when that happened.
SPEAKER_01:I said, I said from how I see it, um, all things would be a thought of a law manifested in flesh. The material world, Islam.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, well, well, uh the purpose of this question and answer is if you look at the next one, what is the duty of a prophet to save nations from the wrath of Allah? So this is a particular thought of Allah manifested in the flesh with a particular duty different from uh some other thoughts. It tells us in chapter one that man is a thought of Allah. So we know that we're the thoughts of Allah are infinite, cannot be circumscribed, right? Um, they're the everlasting past unto the never-ending days to come. However, this thought of Allah is uh at charge with a particular duty, and that is uh to save, to save nations from the wrath of Allah. So he's been given this particular thought is that thought of Allah, one that gives nations an opportunity to uh turn away from that which uh every other nation that is destroyed has fallen victim to, uh, including our nation. Uh, if you think about it, you know, uh we say we give honor to the honorable, credit to the credible salvation to the salvageable. Moorish Americans are a salvage nation. We were salvaged. We were saved because we could have gone the same way of other nations that are no longer here, uh, that were destroyed because of their of their actions. But we were the mercy of the most high, we were sent to profit. And so we have an opportunity now to uh uh salvage ourselves from the destruction that we were uh subjected to. And uh so this particular thought of Allah was sent to us to give us uh uh opportunity to save our nation from total and utter destruction of knowledge of self and just going into, you know, uh just becoming something that we were not.
SPEAKER_01:Check. Let's go, Richard. All right. Um okay, who is the founder of the Morris Science Temple of America? Nobu Drew Ali. What year was an uh what year was the what year was the Morris Science Temple of America founded? 1913 AD. Um AD. Um I learned that AD in another temple means uh after denomination.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I mean, traditionally AD, uh there's a I can't remember the actual Greek uh or Latin uh term, but it represents uh in in English is uh after the death, basically. When you see AD, this is after the death of uh those who they call Christ, which uh was about 2,000 years ago, which is when their calendar uh started, which is why we're in the year 2025, because they start the calendar after the death of Christ. Uh Moslems start the calendar after Hidra. So in in uh in Islam, that there's actually another day. We're in the 1400s, and the Hebrews have a calendar which uh goes back, I believe, about 3,000 uh years. So uh just from you know, there may be some some other meaning to that. Again, that would be a draw that they would have to demonstrate on, but just in the general sense, that's generally what it means.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, all right. Now then it goes into where Newark, New Jersey, um, and says, Where was Nobra Lee born in the state of North North Carolina 1886? Um, what is his nationality? Moorish now, Moorish hyphen American. What's the importance of putting a hyphen between the Moorish and the American?
SPEAKER_00:All right, but before I get to that, when we look at question 10, it says where Newark, some say NJ, some say New Jersey. I'm not gonna get into the difference between the NJ and the New Jersey. However, why Newark? Why in New Jersey? When we look historically there, we'll see that uh this was a part of the Moorish uh empire on these shores. Uh uh New Jersey, Newark, and uh what is the the Delmarva Peninsula? If you look into that, you'll see that this was an area that was inhabited by a group of Native Americans that they call today Lenape. However, when you read the Delaware Code, it it tells you in the Delaware Code that the Lenape were formerly known as Moors. And to this day, the tribe of Moors exists in the CDC Hierarchical Code under uh uh 1237-7 with all the rest of the uh indigenous tribes there. So when the prophet founded the temple in this uh Moorish territory, which was historically known to be uh Moors, he was actually had a Moorish audience and was actually talking to people who knew they were Moors. You know, there were obviously those who didn't know that they were Moors because he's talking to the so-called Negroes, blacks, and colors to try to get them to know they're Moors. But this was a Moorish uh there, there was a Moorish school there. The the people there had uh M on their IDs for instead of uh B for black. And so this was uh a place of choice, and it is connected with all of that rich uh Moorish history of the Moors upon these shores, uh, which in fact the first treaty of 1682, the Treaty of Shaka Maxam with Tamanin uh under the tree is the first Moorish treaty, even before the Treaty of Peace and Friendship. So um that was in Philadelphia, uh in Pennsylvania, which is all a part of the uh territory connected with uh New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, uh, because you have the Delaware Moors as well, right? In Delaware. Uh so there were this was uh it's just interesting to note, and a lot of people may not know that as he was speaking about Moors, there were actually people there who knew that they were Moors. It wasn't just something that was happening in a vacuum. Um, in relationship to Moors American and the hyphen, I I think we went over this uh in in another podcast. If we go to the next question, it says, Why are we Moorish Americans? Because we are descendants of Moroccans and born in America. Now we know that these Moroccans are not the modern day Moroccans because this is 1913 AD and the modern Morocco state didn't get its independence until 1956. So we're not talking about the uh state or nation state of Morocco, the modern one. We're dealing with ancient Moroccans, and when you go back in history, you'll see that the ancient inhabitants of that land in Morocco back then were known as Moors. So we're descendants of these people and born in America. So within Moorish American, and the prophet is giving it to us in number 14, you have two very uh extremely important concepts related to nationality and or citizenship. Uh, one being juice sanguus, which is uh nationality by bloodline, and then you have juice sale, which is uh by the soil. And so within Moorish American, you have both the Juice Sanguis, which is the bloodline, which is the Moorish, and then you have the soil America because when uh birth uh because of the birth ties and the birthrights to the land. So uh this is why it's uh put together, and this is why it's um uh important that we Moorish Americans, because we have birthrights in in this land. Uh Moors built this country. Moors are are still some of the main inventors of uh uh we just don't hold the patents, you know, due to slavery. We didn't hold the patents, but but we're making, we're building, and we're inventing it everything, or you know, many things, and we have blood ties to the land even before the advent of slavery, where they say we all came across on ships. Uh so very important concept, and and uh it just shows you how knowledgeable Prophet Nobu Juwali was, and that he didn't just whip this up in his closet and come out and say, Hey, this is what we're gonna do.
SPEAKER_01:You know, I'm I'm curious to know, you know, where did these brothers get this information from? Like, this is like yeah, I'm talking about uh Prophet Nobu Joe Ali, uh uh uh uh Farad Muhammad, Elijah Muhammad, Allah. How did where did they get this? Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm just trying to figure that out. Uh oh, uh the oh there we go. GS uh Kurt Douglas is Kurt Douglas L is is in the building. What's going on? GS, how you doing, brother? Nice to see you on the check in. Nice to see you on the check-in, brother.
SPEAKER_02:Uh yeah, that's a good question, right there. Where did they get the teachings from? But they got the information, is deep.
SPEAKER_00:Islam, well, the prophet said he was divinely prepared by Allah. You know, you have to realize this is 40 some years after 1865 when so-called black people, I believe 40 some years after so-called black people were supposed to be emancipated. This knowledge was not given to us. We weren't set loose, and and someone came and said, Hey, here's all this information for you all now. Allah sent us somebody, and maybe because of uh, because we're shell-shocked in religion and spirituality, the way it was given to us, or the way we it was brought to us by Western society, that it's hard for us to believe that Allah sent us somebody to return the knowledge of self to us uh out of his mercy because he's because because Allah was just, and so however, some divine intervention, which the Prophet Nobu Juali says Allah divinely prepared him, uh provided this knowledge uh to him to give to us, and uh, and he did it, and a lot more than that. We have, and when you go to other other nations and countries, you have sages, you have gurus, you have uh spiritual uh leaders, you know. And if you yourself go deep enough, uh I don't know if you if you ever uh wrote rhymes or was in the hip hop or anything like that, if you ever freestyle before, if you freestyle good enough, that some come over you, and it's not even you no more. You're channeling, and so the prophet was channeling this information, he was channeling it, uh, just like anybody can channel if we if we go high enough, if we go inside enough, we can channel these degrees.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, Mike, Mike Taylor. I don't I don't know about that, brother. I don't know about that, brother.
SPEAKER_02:What is it?
SPEAKER_01:It could be it, it could possibly be the other way around, brother. It could possibly be the other way around. I wasn't around to to know that for actual fact, but it's a it's I know this for a fact. Nobu Jwali was the first one to bring Islam to hit you know to to America. That from from my understanding. Anyone else know anyone else before Nobu Jwali bringing Islam?
SPEAKER_02:I heard different stories from different accounts. I heard it was uh uh uh a Hindu Indian Indian that bought it, the master Farad, and from different so many different accounts. Again, I wasn't there, so I don't want no zealots. I don't I don't want these zealots to come at me.
SPEAKER_01:They're gonna always come. They like to fight.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, man. I might go read a book, man.
SPEAKER_00:The prophet didn't just bring Islam. I mean, our forefathers was here, had Islam. You had uh uh uh various so-called slaves who wore pheasants, spoke Arabic. Uh, there's a great book uh that deals with the jihads of the plantation, and so so there were there were groups of Moors already here who had knowledge of who they were. What the prophet did was and and knowledge of Islam, what he did was establish it. So there's a difference to have it and know it, and to establish it. And by the time we get to the back of these 101s, ones will understand what I mean by establishing it. See, because what he did was he didn't just teach Islam, he created a uh government, a juror society to exercise uh uh uh self-governance for our people under Islam while teaching our people who they were at at the same time. So that again, it's back to saving our nation. We have a nation. Well, what laws are you gonna govern under? And uh the prophet brought and established the the nation, and he established the divine laws for us to uh demonstrate under. And there was nobody who did that uh before him. You won't find anybody in history. A lot of people did it after him. And when you look at other nationalities, you'll find these figures, these lawgivers, these governors, these sages, these holy men that do the same thing. And and many of them are remembered with uh great reverence. It's only due to the self-hate and the mental slavery of our people that Prophet Noble Juali doesn't get the reverence that he should get. Uh, any other nationality had a man like Noble Jwali come and bring the knowledge to them that what they have, their whole nation start based on that. Look at look at the Prophet, the Prophet Muhammad brought it, and and the Hijra calendar starts with him. Uh Jesus brought it, and and the calendar starts with him. You know, uh you go to to Iran, Pakistan, Egypt, Africa, there's all types of people, these figures that are revered and that have uh uh raised up people out of the dust into an organized nation and a state. But when the prophet does it, because we still suffer from Willie Lynch, we want to argue about well, well, maybe, maybe it was somebody else, or maybe this, or maybe that. We just need to give honor and credit for what he did. It doesn't take away from what anyone else did or how anybody else built upon it, but we have to give honor and see, this goes back to why it says we're in slavery. Because we honor not the creed and principles of our forefathers. Our forefathers come and bring something grandiose that half the people criticizing can't even measure up to a tenth of it, but yet we don't honor it. We throw it in the trash. Well, those of us who do honor it are getting great benefit and great freedom and help from it. So, you know, we just need to learn how to honor our forefathers and instead of hating our forefathers because that's what everybody else teaches us to do. We want that to hate Martin Luther King, to hate Malcolm X, to hate Marcus Garvey, to hate Nobel Juwali, to hate Elijah Muhammad. Well, if we hate all our leaders, then who are we gonna be following? Their leaders.
SPEAKER_01:For real, for real. On that note, man, I know uh someone in the chat said we need these bills to be two hours. Uh um that, yeah, that's that's actually a good idea. We'll build with the brother Cosmo L on that offline, but uh um you know, uh we would like to close out. Thank you, um, Brother Cosmo L. I really appreciate you. Uh we're gonna continue this series on the um you know, Korean questions for Moorish Americans. Thanks for thanks for everyone who uh thanks to everyone who were on the chat this evening, even the even the crazy zealots and all of that stuff in their lowest self. Um peace to y'all peace to y'all. Uh and on that note, we're out of here. Thank you, GS. Thank you, Michael Mikey Fever, and we out. Peace. Islam.