New Nation Of Islam- Son Of Man

What does commitment look like when you strip away letters, titles, and ceremony? We sit down with a leader who claims the mantle of Son of Man and maps a membership path built on daily classes, steady practice, and a radical return to scripture as the supreme wisdom. No X, no dining out, no pork; one meal a day if you choose it. The frame is submission to truth, not pageantry—discipline in food, speech, and patience, with accountability offered as a brother’s reminder rather than a rank’s command.

We dig into the core: why past tools like the letter mattered then, and why he retired them now. He lays out general orders adapted from military roots so any member knows what to do when no one is watching. He defines God as the grantor of dominion and argues that dominion rests on truth, with the Bible and Qur’an read together to train a righteous life. The five pillars stand—oneness of God, prophets and scripture, prayer, charity, fasting—with his clarifications around Ramadan and the purpose of practice over performance.

The conversation turns tangible with an emphasis on work over talk. He points to an auditorium built by members as evidence that unity plus skill creates sustainable power. His flag—two lunar quarters bracketing a star—symbolizes first and last, justice, truth, and the vast unknown in black that still belongs to them. Whether you embrace or challenge his claims, you’ll come away with a clear map: fewer symbols, more study; fewer ranks, more responsibility; less nostalgia, more building.

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Transcript

Mic Check And Guest Setup

SPEAKER_06 0:19

Okay, Mr.

SPEAKER_04 0:19

Brown, you're the host.

SPEAKER_01 0:21

Okay, yeah, pardon me. I was muted. Uh, what's going on, everybody out there? It's Ron Brown, LMT, the People's Fitness Professional. We got the brother, the son of man in the building today, leader and teacher of the new nation of Islam. I had to bring you back up again. We agreed to do podcasts before. Um last time I was, I was, I this is that was the first time I heard of you. And uh I was just uh I just was different it was just different from me. It was just different. I wasn't used to it. So let now we're back today. How you doing, brother? I'm doing good. Life is good, life is good, making sure of it. So uh uh, brother son of man, um uh the first thing I would like to ask is do you have anything to say before we get started?

Claim Of Son Of Man And Scrutiny Rules

SPEAKER_04 1:17

Well, just uh I'm not surprised that we, you know, this has kind of cost you a little out off. Because I mean, ain't nobody else going around here telling you they the son of man. So, you know, and if if it wasn't different, then that would be uh a sign that maybe I'm not what I claim to be. So but there's not supposed to be any more lucky. So just uh, you know, as I was telling you the first time we talked before we officially came on, you know, I'm here to be scrutinized. I don't mind being scrutinized, but anyone that asks me a question, wait until I finish answering before we go to the next one. It takes me a while to explain uh things that are in the scripture as uh book of Psalms teaches you that the thoughts of God are very deep. So you when you when you take a uh something that that is spoken by God, then it it takes some time to make sure that people that are not on that level, uh, when they ask you a question about it, they need to get a concise answer, but a complete answer, so that they don't have a question for of the answer. Right.

How To Join: Daily Classes Not Letters

SPEAKER_01 2:46

But I don't mean to cut you off. The reason why I'm cutting you off is because the mic sounds muffled. So I don't know if you got to get a little closer to it. Okay, I'm right up in my mic. I don't know what the okay, I think we've been uh hold on. Yeah, that's okay. That's that's better. Uh, brother MKD, what is that? MKD Podcast. How's the mic sound now, brother? How's the mic sound now? Um, brother uh son of man. So I just want to start off with um when you join, okay, when you how do you join the new nation of Islam? What is the process? Can you share that with us?

SPEAKER_04 3:28

Yes, we have classes now. Um we have classes every day, Monday through Friday. And I always tell people that uh if you like I've had some that would hear me a few times and say, I'm ready. And I tell them, you need to take your time.

SPEAKER_01 3:48

Brother, brother, I'm I don't mean to cut you off again. You gotta, I think maybe get closer to the mic. I think when you got closer, you it sounds like this.

SPEAKER_05 3:57

I think you have to get it closer. I got it right in front of my UC, it's right in front of me.

SPEAKER_01 4:02

Now now now that's good. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 4:05

Uh when people uh tell me they want to join, I'm happy. But I tell them uh, before you uh make that decision, you need to make sure that you know what you're joining. And because Islam means entire submission to the will of God. And once you join me, I'm through hearing hearing arguments from you, through hearing all of your questions. I expect you to trust me and do what I tell you. I'm building a new nation of Islam, and I'm the only one who's who knows what I'm doing here. And so I may tell you some of the, I may explain some of the things that I I do, but I'm not gonna explain publicly everything that I do or have planned to do, because everybody's not your friend, everybody's not my friend. So you don't get out in the public and tell all of your plans that you have for the good of your people. No nation does that. The president of the United States don't do that. No leader that's worth his thoughts gets out. The honorable Elijah Muhammad didn't do that. You found out a lot of things that he was gonna do after it had been done, and that's the way it is with me. But you don't have to write no letter, you don't have to uh get no X, none of that, for the X was for a different purpose than people ever even understood what it was for. But uh that that day is gone because what the X stood for is standing in a Dalking Day. So um, but that's how you join. Just be in class every day. Once you say you're gonna follow me, how you gonna follow me if you don't know what I'm teaching? And the only way you're gonna know what I'm teaching is to be in class every day.

SPEAKER_01 5:59

Okay, so to be in class every day. So for what I know about the nation of Islam currently is that you know uh you you uh write a letter, so you're saying that there's no writing a letter. No, you don't have to do that anymore. Okay, so there's no writing of a of the letter, um, and there's no such thing as processing with the new nation of Islam.

Processing Through Study And Change

SPEAKER_04 6:25

Now, when you say when you say processing, now the these classes, when people come into these classes, that is their processing, you know. When as you as you grow and learn what I'm teaching, then you start to recognize what the word of God is really saying. And the process is you are becoming a different person because your thoughts are becoming different. You see, as the messenger told you, he said, This one he don't have to go and do the hard work like Yahoo did to go and make a new people. He said just his word, saying you start changing just by his word. Get saved day 73 and listen to it. And uh, I'm the one he was talking about. It's just like uh you, brother Ron. You uh when you first started your podcast, you you uh probably was a little nervous and that kind of thing. But after you got really into it, you really learned how to get better at it and do it, and now you're a veteran at it, and you're not the same Ron Brown that started it. You're a different man. Right, right. That's that's how that's how we are going to become better. We're going to become better in in as as human beings by practicing what's in the Holy Scripture, not just talking about it. But when you when we really start trying to practice, do unto others as you as you want them to do you, man, that's that's not as easy as that sounds. Most of the time we learn to do unto others as they do to us. So and uh so sometimes uh we we don't have patience to put up with people's disrespect. We don't have patience to put up with people, but disrespect is based on basically ignorance because most people don't understand that when you disrespect another human being, you are actually bringing disrespect upon yourself. The messenger taught us that. He said, a ruler that by being dishonorable and disrespecting people, he is dishonoring himself, and so you know, I I have to uh work on mine, everybody has to work on themselves.

SPEAKER_01 8:58

I like that you said that. Um, so now as far as so there's no, okay, so you you explain that there that's the processing in a sense, right? So well, not in a sense, the processing is every day you go into the classes, you learn in those classes, you don't do no letter, you don't do any no X. So if there's no there's no letter. I'm gonna tell you from my own experience. The letter was a great experience for me, for me personally. I mean, uh, what was the purpose of taking the letter out?

SPEAKER_04 9:32

Well, the purpose of it was to later on see the messenger with a prophet, also, even though he said that he didn't call himself a prophet. He said, I have nothing to prophesy, but he also said he was here to fulfill the prophets, and if you notice in the Holy Quran, it it tells you uh in the third chapter, and uh around the uh excuse me a minute, brother.

SPEAKER_01 10:03

Let me get let me get my Quran. Hold on. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm waiting for you.

Trust, Secrecy, And Leadership Plans

SPEAKER_04 10:07

All right, this is uh the third chapter, and uh this is the I'm gonna read from the 85th and 86th verse. This is the Ma'alana Muhammad Ali version of the Holy Quran. This is his translation. It says other than Islam, it will not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter, he will be one of the losers. How shall Allah guide a people who disbelieved after their believing and after they had borne witness that the messenger was true? That's what that letter did. That letter uh made us all. Um I wrote it when I came into the nation. Uh I came into the nation. I ain't somebody under Lewis Farrakhan, I'm somebody under the honorable Elijah Muhammad. I came into the nation back in 73 and um actually the end of 72. But I wrote that letter, and I said I believe in the honorable Elijah Muhammad as the last messenger of Allah, and the religion of Islam as was taught by him. I still have a letter.

SPEAKER_06 11:25

I I have a copy of that letter, and and uh I'll get it to you.

SPEAKER_01 11:41

Thank you to everybody in the chat. Uh Kai Wallace. I'm gonna answer your qu we're gonna we're gonna ask those questions in a second.

SPEAKER_04 11:50

There's Mr. W. F. Muhammad, 4847 South Woodlawn Avenue, Chicago, Illinois, 60615. Dear Savior Allah, our deliverer, who came in the person of Master Farad Muhammad, to whom praises are due forever. I believe in the religion of Islam as taught by thy servant, Elijah Muhammad. I bear witness that Muhammad is thy servant and apostle. I desire to reclaim my own, I desire a name from thee, and my slave name is as follows. And not only did we have to write the letter, we had to make our letter look like the letter that we was that they gave us as an example.

SPEAKER_01 12:35

Exactly, exactly. And that and that and that right there is what made me say, this is genius. This is genius for a number of reasons. But we're not gonna talk about me today. We're gonna we'll with the focus is on you. So um now, so being that this letter, for some people it's hard, it's it's hard to write, especially if you haven't written in script in years.

SPEAKER_04 13:07

Well, most of our people hadn't never learned how to uh read and write when the messenger first came to you. You remember back in the 30s, black men didn't hardly have no uh skills of reading and writing. My daddy only went to the 12th grade. I mean, the third grade. He couldn't, he couldn't read or write.

SPEAKER_01 13:30

Okay, okay. Uh uh, so just try to get a little closer to the mic if you can. Now um now um so this letter for me, it was just it just made me realize how how uh great you know the honorable Elijah Muhammad's teachings are in uh uh Master Pura Muhammad. It it made me realize this is like genius, right? If you kind of like understand the brain and the subconscious mind and and and how those how they work, how how they work is the same thing pretty much how the brain works. So um, so aside from that, right? So there's no letter, there's no X. Why'd you take out the X?

Letters, X, And Why They Ended

SPEAKER_04 14:16

The X was because the the teachings of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad was for one man. He had and most people they read, they hear words, and they don't they they assume that he didn't mean what he wrote, uh meant uh didn't mean the way he spoke. And that's a grave error when you're listening to a messenger of God. What he's saying is what God gave him to say. It would have made us think about well, which one of us? Well, the messenger knew that one of us was going to be the one that the scripture says the son of man had to be raised from the dead, and so the honorable Elijah Muhammad, in his sayings, he said, I alone Allah has raised up to teach a dead man. But many of most of the ministers they didn't teach it as though it was for one man, they taught it as though it was for all black men in America, and it wasn't, because Allah said he was going to create a man, and the man was gonna be black. That's in the Holy Quran.

SPEAKER_01 15:42

Peace to the I don't mean to cut you, I don't mean uh brother son of man. I'm not cutting you uh if you could kind of follow what's going on with this uh format. Sometimes I give people shots out in the um no, no, I I I heard you speaking to him.

SPEAKER_04 15:58

It was okay, man. If you offend me, I would tell you, if I don't say nothing, you ain't offended me.

SPEAKER_01 16:10

Indeed. Peace to everybody in the chat, peace to the gods, peace to the uh uh uh peace to the earth, peace to who else is in here. Uh uh the Muslims are in the building. Peace, peace to everybody in the chat. So now, um, so I don't know if you you brothers and sisters heard his explanation as to why he took the X out. I heard it clearly. Um, my job today is not to uh rebuttal what's said. I just want to get a clear understanding as to what is being taught uh um by the by the son of man uh with the new nation of Islam. So there's no X, there's no uh letter that you have to write. Uh so I'm assuming that there are no uh general orders. Yes, there are general orders. General orders. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 17:06

Okay. Uh every every member of the every member of the New Nation of Islam gets a set of general orders. So they are called general orders is because for the same reason that uh we borrowed them from the military of the United States. Uh when there's no one around that uh had uh some official rank or something to tell you what to do, then you always know what to do, like the first general order. Take charge of this post and all temple property and view. Now we say all nations property and be. So any member of the new nation of Islam, since it's their nation, whatever business they walk into, whatever uh whatever properties that we have, when they walk into them, they have rights to go wherever they uh they see see the need to go and make sure that everything is being kept properly in our property. So that's that's their duty. Not just their right, it's their duty. So, yes, the general orders, yes. They walk my post in a perfect manner, keeping always on the alert, observing everything that takes place within sight of him.

SPEAKER_01 18:26

Okay, all right, all right there, brother.

SPEAKER_04 18:30

I knew all of this, man. You forget I was in the Marine Corps at one time. So learning the general orders didn't take, didn't I I pretty much knew the general orders. Uh when uh you know when I came in, I just had to change a few of the words to fit the nation because they you know, Captain Rashi, he he was a former military uh man. So uh it it it was it was a smooth transition for me but on on that area.

SPEAKER_01 19:05

Oh I got some questions in the chat. These are some great questions, but we but hold on, brothers. Hold on. I got let me do what I do first, and then we're gonna get to you, we're gonna get to y'all the the the uh the chat. So as far as the dietary laws, are we eating pork or are we not eating pork?

SPEAKER_04 19:25

No, you don't eat no pig, but ain't no such thing. So pig. We don't not only do we not eat, we don't eat pig. We don't eat out of pots that pig been cooked in. Okay, we don't go and eat in uh restaurants where they serve pig. Matter of fact, we don't eat nowhere but at home.

SPEAKER_01 19:49

Ah, I like that.

General Orders And Member Duties

Diet, Home Eating, And Health Discipline

SPEAKER_04 19:51

You know, I don't I don't uh I don't go to people who are non believers and and expect them to have the same. uh health consciousness i like that i don't do that and i teach my followers have to do that so okay so general orders we're not eating pork the okay so if you if there's no x right if there's no x then what would be in replace of the x your name just your name remember the scripture teaches you that uh the son the son of man the lord comes and calls you by a new name and that is uh that that has a lot of significance for i'm here to put my father's name in there forehead you know many people think that the changing the name from say uh tailor to the uh muhammad that that that is the kind of name that ain't that ain't that ain't what the ex was the ex out that you know you didn't ask me that so I left that alone but the uh the the real name my father's name that I'm here to put in your forehead is the word of God that's what I'm here to put in your forehead so that you have the whole armor of God on see what the white man got he got God's word but he got the lesser because it it's it's the natural the natural knowledge he became the natural ruler but he's blind as far as spiritual things go that man got no spiritual spirituality about him you know they they they uh when you start talking about reading the scriptures to white people that's like telling a dog to read an English book and the dog can't read no English books that's why he got all these made up religions out of it and everybody got their own idea of what God is and all that kind of stuff I'm here to do away with all that uh spookism God is an acronym and it simply means grantor of dominion you sound a little muffled you said grantor of what I said God is an acronym for the term grantor of dominion as the in Genesis it says and God said let us make man in our image after our likeness it's the same as saying and the grantor of dominion said let us make man in our image after our likeness and let them have dominion over the fowl of the air the fish of the sea and the cattle and all of that well that's that is uh what people didn't didn't know that's the first mystery I've done away with is the mystery of who God is and once you understand that the God means grant of dominion then you can understand why it says in the beginning was the word and the word was with God well what was the word the word was the truth name one thing that you can take dominion over without knowing the truth of how to do it okay the truth is God at least the truth is my God I ain't got no other God than that which makes me God over by the way because I'm the best knower of the truth all right now um so general orders the principles of Islam yes the principles of Islam are five the pillars of faith the belief in only one God whose proper name is Allah the second one is equal to the first which is the belief in all of the prophets and in all of their scriptures the third is the belief in the keeping up of prayer which is acknowledging that without uh God's help we can't do nothing when you see prophet when the messenger called the prophets scientists he called them scientists because they sought the truth of whatever they were trying to accomplish they always sought the help of the truth and so as I said we created the heaven and the earth but we didn't do it by ourselves we did it with truth with Allah and uh then the fourth one is the belief in charity there's no such thing as a selfish righteous person righteous people are not selfish they are charitable the and the fifth uh pillar is the belief in fasting not Ramadan but fasting Ramadan is not a pillar of faith that's what I had to correct the uh Orthodox people on I had to correct them on a lot of things but but that's why I'm oh the Mafki.

God, Truth, And Acronyms Explained

Five Pillars Reframed And Fasting

Student Enrollment Versus Scripture

SPEAKER_01 25:10

Okay so uh if if you can get a little closer to the mic I don't know the next time the next time you come up with the mic we got to focus on that a little bit. But uh so I see I can hear you but the audience may not be able to hear everything you're saying because trust me everyone's listening to the effort every word that's been saying but I want them to hear and I also want them to see what I've been doing. But right we're gonna we're gonna get to what you that's the one thing that I can say um uh uh about you right that you're doing active work like there's things happening you know uh under underneath your watches so that's something I can definitely respect you know what I'm saying so um uh general orders principles of Islam now student enrollment now uh when when people become members do they get literature and do they get anyone or do they have someone assigned to them to help them through processing now the student the student enrollment was basically just to uh get uh like it's like kindergarten that's all it was the the messenger when if you notice when um the messenger uh has told us in his sayings he said if you want to talk to Allah he didn't say read the lesson he said read the Quran and the Quran will send you to the Bible that's that's what you discover when you start reading the Quran that the Quran is truly what it claimed to be it's a reminder of that which came before it the Torah and the gospel and that is the Holy Bible now okay for instance in this in the student enrollment then uh the question is asked what is the birth record of the said nation of Islam and the answer was the said nation of Islam has no birth record it has no beginning nor ending now what does that mean most people they don't know they think that means the nation of Islam has always existed that's not what that that was saying everything that exists the messenger said there's nothing that exists that does not have a beginning we may say that we don't know the beginning but there was a beginning so the reason it says it has no beginning nor ending was because as the messenger told me he said I'm here to put your mind back into the scripture so that you can find the truth that I am teaching well the scripture says Abraham looked for a nation or city whose builder and maker is God okay the God says I am Alpha and Omega I am the first and the last I'm the beginning and the ending the beginning and the ending of what the nation of Islam so I'm building it now and so that's what I'm that's why it speaks like it speaks okay so you're saying basically that the student enrollment is irrelevant because the messenger says to go to the Quran and the Quran instructs us to go to the Bible the the word of God is the supreme wisdom that's why you never had anybody that was able to open the scriptures and give you the understanding that people couldn't argue with because the only one understand it is the supreme being and when you uh look at I tell you what you do look at this look at the lessons and then ask yourself and when you learn all of them lessons how righteous are you and then ask yourself are there any Muslims other than righteous you know the answer I beg your pardon I've never heard of one well how do you get righteous all scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine for uh let me see for doctrine for reproof for correction for instruction in righteousness so if you want to be righteous the instruction in righteousness is laid out in the holy scriptures why would why wouldn't it be the supreme wisdom the the supreme wisdom is the holy scriptures brother there's no wisdom other than uh the word of god that is supreme it's just like you notice uh you never saw the messenger get up actually teaching on those lessons that he gave us he didn't he didn't he if the student enrolled he had children stand up in the sight death what is the what is who is the original man the original man is the Asiatic black man the maker the owner the cream of the planet earth god of the universe what is that for it is to teach that man that he was here to give that knowledge to and teach that man that he is the God that one man if you ask anybody how many gods did people say ain't but one God and the messenger taught us that there ain't but one God. Once he was telling the people in the theology of time that uh uh I don't care what you uh uh uh don't I don't go along with you uh trying to put uh nobody uh uh telling other than the truth he said don't tell me uh uh that Muhammad you are God you are Allah you are master Parat Muhammad he said no tell me that no master for a muhammad is the one that I represent and he he he taught us that there's not but one God and since we know that there's only one God then that's what the supreme being is he is the one God but uh he also told us that we all are gods and uh what did he mean your foot is still you brother Ron if the foot could talk it would say I'm run if the leg could talk it would say I'm run if your ear could talk it wouldn't claim to be you every member of your body is you if God is the head then the whole body is God but most people they don't understand and they run out and they start worshiping themselves and that's what self-righteousness is their righteousness is not of the head it is of themselves and they wind up being cut off from the body of God okay so so we basically you take your members back into the Bible pretty much right they never been in the Bible I'm the only one who can go in the Bible as the scripture teaches you that in John the third chapter it says no man hath ascended up to heaven but he who came down from heaven even the Son of man which is in heaven and that's me okay just like any if you can find associates in every field or you can get an associate degree but there ain't no associate degree in God Allah has no associate no associate has he and this and I command that's why everybody when the Lord shows up the Lord says as I live notice he said as I live every knee shall bow before me and every tongue shall confess unto God meaning unto the truth that I speak and that's I'm the one that's that's doing that now okay there is no uh more teachers coming to you after me no no more ain't no more uh uh waiting on somebody to come the messenger told you that wasn't nobody coming behind him but God all right let me let me interject so now uh um you come in as a member you have your regular name right you don't you don't use the X you don't write a letter um so one thing I noticed about the nation of Islam is it was something that I really love something that I really love because I come from like a distance discipline background is this discipline so are there any prerequisites and qualifications that members have to you know uh uh uh uh perform or have to to to become a member yeah they have to be Muslim Muslim means one who submits it don't mean one who rules it means one who submits and anybody that won't submit to me can't be part of the nation just as simple as the script submit to you okay yeah that's right I'm the Lord so you know I can't claim to be the son of man and don't claim to be the Lord but that's who the son of man is the messenger told you that he said here we are before the God who will judge us all who will this God be he said the son of man that's me okay so so so because people want to hear um how people want to hear how do you how did you become the son of man I think we spoke about that on the first hold on a second brother hold on one second I think we spoke about that on the first podcast we can get back to this we can get back to the son of man part but I just want to make I just want to kind of lay it out I want to I want the people to understand if you become a member of the new nation of Islam this is what it is. Okay so so pre prerequisites and qualifications you know so uh good attendance good charity record all this stuff passport pen we we don't have to have this we didn't have to have that with the with the with the honorable Nigel Muhammad as well as good charity and all of that that what what about what about good attendance just a moment just a moment when the messenger was here I gave they wanted 1750 a week um I didn't always have that but I gave what I had and that was that you need to put out if you didn't have the money but uh as far as my followers go they know they're supposed to uh give tithes and they give often but I don't I don't broadcast what nobody gives and because I don't I don't see I'm not here for your money I'm here for you if you if we get enough talented people as I uh one of my followers he put it better than I than I had to he put it in a concise way he was a lawyer he passed away but um he was a lawyer and uh he was a very bright young man and he said uh son of man ain't no way that we can put all of these talents together you know some of us in engineers some of us carpenters brick and stay both I said you're right son son of man try to get a little closer to the mic and uh you know this is what this is what uh you know I'm I'm not so much worried over the money we're gonna get some money because we all got skills this this building I'm standing in I'm a carpenter man and I'm I can do a lot of things I'm also a barber I'm a I'm a whatever it takes you know I can I can do it or I can learn and I'm still working and so and that that's the way my followers are we all work we are not uh people just standing around uh idle worshipers no we are we are busy worshiping God in our mind and in our deeds and actions and uh we we come along pretty good the building I'm standing in right now we built this nobody we rent it from nobody had nobody come in and build it for us we built it I said now now that's one thing I want to interject because you know we we only have limited at limited amount of time although you know we agreed to do more podcasts but I want I want to get the basics in today I want to lay the foundation but one thing before I finish laying the foundation one thing I've got you have to respect about the brother is that he is building he is building right so like he has videos and videos upon videos of him building things with his own hands. Now you say that this building that you're standing in is the building that you uh basically you you built yourself.

SPEAKER_04 39:34

Now we did it this year we we it's it's not even a year old yet it's just an auditorium uh so it you know it's not like it's got a lot of rooms in it it's just a big place and we built it ourselves.

Supreme Wisdom As Scripture Alone

Submission, Tithes, And Work Ethic

Building An Auditorium And Self-Reliance

SPEAKER_01 39:48

I like you got it you get you for me personally I respect that I respect that part you know now um now now um so no X um uh no ex you you you you we're not eating pork we're we got that um are you eating one meal a day yes sir uh uh or less you know actually i found out that uh that the less you eat the longer you live and that's you know the the honorable elijah muhammed i mean that alone should tell people the man was from god man you know i was eating three meals a day and doing some everything before i heard his teaching and followed him and even food you remember in the how to eat to live you got how to eat to live right Ron yes sir remember he said the imaginary taste of food that threw me for a loop man when I first heard that and uh after I went on a three day fast and sat down to eat I discovered that I couldn't taste nothing and I thought about what he said I said man he showed us right food the taste we have for food is in our mind it's imaginary you notice if you can't smell something you can't taste it right this it's the messenger was man yeah yeah I will never he told me I would never be able to thank him enough and I can't and the only way you see what I'm doing brother Ron is to say thank you to the man who taught me to do it right right now um so so I I just like I said I would lay the foundation of how the new nation of Islam uh operates uh so we uh so all members are eating once a day is that a required well now look that ain't that's that's up to the member okay you know you what's the what does our flag stand for freedom justice and equality that's why you haven't met no brother lieutenants you ain't met no brother squad leaders no brother captains all you've met was the son of man and his brethren that's where i wanted to go oh my god thank you for doing that i wanted to so there's no captain there's no lieutenant there's no no big eyes and little you's okay okay okay which me personally have you watched the way we treat each other i haven't i haven't but i just want to say this well i'm i'm not talking about we when i said when i say we i'm not meaning the the we here um but because you don't know nothing about us but basically but i'm talking about your experience with us as a people in this country okay watched how we how disrespectful we are to each other well which of us is really qualified the minute you put one of us over others you start seeing the worst in that person come out because we don't know how to we don't know how to be brothers yet let alone have rank over each other okay okay i like that all right well okay now but one thing i do like is you know the fact that another brother holds you accountable and holds you sometimes you know you want to do whatever you want to do you don't have the discipline and you got a brother you got a brother to help keep you strong and and and keep you upright so I I like the accountability piece about that but now if if somebody force you Ryan that's just me um personally what you say if somebody got to hold you accountable other than you you ain't free it's not that nobody the matter is your brother's supposed to remind you right I'll tell a brother if I see him if I if I see him uh gaining too much weight or whatever I think hey bruh I think you need to slide back from that table don't you and uh and uh we kind of smile I'll say with a smile I mean it's not a because I know that uh you know the freedom to choose to live right or choose not to that's an individual choice true and no one has the right to demand that on you Allah does not demand that we be righteous he offers us he said I have pointed out to you the two conspicuous ways the way of right and the way of wrong now you choose okay so so now so we went over uh so there's so this is beautiful so no captain no lieutenant no private soldier uh uh uh uh uh you you you still work with the general orders uh principles of Islam uh student enrollment not really right uh actual facts not really uh well you you you we know those things all the members knowing knowing the weight of the earth and knowing the circumference and all that of the earth is nice to know that this your home you should know it but it don't make you righteous you look in any good dictionary and you'll discover that uh that's in the dictionary all of those measurements and all of that this it's that's that was already done by white people you see it's not like we got a monopoly on on being able to decipher all of those things matter of fact his is more more close to the exact thing ours is rounded off his is is is put in there in a different way they uh they they make it more accurate you know but it's just basically the same but the earth is not the same um circumference and same diameter all of the time because the three fourths of its surface is water and so it fluctuates it contracts and it expands you see okay so you know nobody can claim the other one is more accurate than the other no well you know but what is the square mileage of the earth 196 million nine hundred and forty thousand square miles of land and water the land is 5725000 square miles I learned that back in uh uh 73 and uh I learned that from the messenger and that you know but you know it's it's nice to know that uh this is our earth and we should know something about it. So but I didn't mean to I didn't mean to dwell on that you you said what you had to say all right go ahead so so now um so lessons lesson number one lesson number two wants and beliefs these are so basically it's for you right for for the nation new nation of Islam you got general orders principle principles of Islam and then uh and then we're going with we're going we're dealing with the Bible the Bible's teachings we we um that the those uh lessons were the alarm clock to wake us you remember we back back in well you can't remember because you're not that old but uh I'm a lot older I'm a lot older than you and most of the people who probably in this audience and uh but there was a time when black people didn't know that they was something other than a negro and so those lessons was an alarm clock and we went from being nothing nigga ain't nothing never was nothing never will be nothing that's the way I that's what I heard when I was growing up and all of a sudden here this man come and tell us he's the messenger of God and he said you're not a Negro you were so called that but you are the original man of the earth the Asiatic black man the maker the owner the cream of the planet earth the God of the universe now I went from being nothing to God that's a wake up call and when somebody you know if you got amnesia your children if they kind of low down your children could make you think that you ain't nothing and nobody when they came from you and now they running your house they're doing some everything you you don't know who you are but somebody may come one of your friends and say hey man what's what what's going on here you say well they let me live here with them for a while and I'm thanking them said what you mean let you live here this is your house and next thing you know your whole attitude changed like I used to be scared of white folks I ain't scared of nobody now right now I I don't want to we we we we only have we only have 10 minutes no no no no no i'm let I'm letting you build I'm letting you build I think the last time it kind of went off the rail so you know right you didn't you explain that when you said that it was the first time you met I didn't I didn't know I didn't know that's the first time I told you we ain't gonna dwell on that right yeah so so now so now we only have 10 minutes right I'm laying the foundation for what the new nation of Islam is about y'all can rewind it uh um please please God um does he know supreme wisdom yeah he he's quoting it he's quoting some he's quoting some of it he's quoting yeah he is you can't we can't if you do the knowledge you got to rewind i hear i hear it i hear it what i'm um i'm um um but but uh before before let's not i don't want to get sidetracked um now before we go i want to talk about the flag that you have with the two the two moons and a star in the middle so what does that represent okay you remember you remember uh when the messenger uh well you saw it on the salaam restaurant first the the crescent on there was revolving and you saw the the crescent on top of the new temple on stony island it was revolving too it was and at some times it looked like the flag of Turkey and sometimes it looked like the our flag but it was to show you that's the moon in its first and last quarter and so now since it can't we can't make it revolve we're letting you see that our flag covers all of Islam all of it and uh uh it represents the first and the last as that is the first the moon in its first quarter and the moon in its last quarter and it's not two crescents it's the moon in its first and last quarters okay that makes a lot of sense now the star in the middle the star is still the symbol of justice the reason the star has always been the symbol for justice is because if you look outside at night everywhere where you look and you see a star and it's hard if it's only clear night when you go out there it's very everywhere you look you'll see a star and that star is justified to be there because if it wasn't it would be dark there and so the star has been always the symbol for justice. The red represents the sun um as the sun represents freedom because the sun shines on everything shines on everything in its circle the just as well as the unjust when it rains it don't just rain on righteous people it rains on evil people too everybody gets the freedom of that the black that's in the flag if you heard the messenger teach teach you on that you would have heard him say that the sun is powerful but its light does not go all over the universe and he said and if you could uh the starlight don't either and if you go so far and so fast you could be out of sunlight you could be out of the sun moon and starlight and you'd be in triple darkness again the absence of the sun moon and stars triple darkness and you get as far out there that belongs to us too so we put that in our flag too okay and the red and the white well you know the red the red represents the sun but it also represents truth you see and the white is just the moon reflects when you the reason the moon looks white at night is because the white light of the sun the visible spectrum of the sun is bouncing off of it and it is reflecting the light of the sun that's what the messengers of God did they reflected the light that is now being shared with you by me the son of man that's one of the reasons I'm called son of man if the moon could talk the moon would say uh hey uh I'm a reflection of the sun and that's what the messengers of God were they were reflections of the son of man every one of them was actually me like all of your teachers the teachers that taught you from first through twelfth grade or college whatever when you look at all of them and look at you then you are the result of all of their teaching and I'm the result of all of the teachings of the messengers of God part part me brother VSOP Society does he uh does the Lord know supreme wisdom I'm hearing he's quoting supreme wisdom I've been hearing it he's uh that's that sounds like a youngster who thinks that he got something because he got uh that um uh I got a question for him I don't want to I don't want to okay why did the why did we take Jerusalem from the devil so look I don't want to I don't want to go into that because you know I'm just I'm trying to I want to get to a point here I keep telling I keep telling all of you that the supreme wisdom is not supreme if everybody got it uh that I we could we could go back and forth about that all day so now look so so now we we got the flag now we got the we we we know what the flag is now we we we we we have um the basics of the teachers now before we leave before we go we we only have about five minutes but I'm not gonna cut it short if you have more to explain than to do do you have a four and an MGT and GCC yes um most people they think the foi uh was the men and boys of the nation of islam that's not the foi the foi is the training that's given to the men and boys of the nation of Islam like I told you you've been listening to a lot of you all been listening to people tell you about supreme wisdom and all of this kind of thing the supreme wisdom is the word of God period okay so I don't mean to cut you off anyway go ahead so so so you have a FOI and you have an MGT oh a V SOP uh one quick question I'm gonna give you this V SOP uh son of man you are uh uh around your 70s right say that again your age oh I'm 75 he's 75 the founder is 75 years old brother 75 so now you have you have an FOI and you have an MGT we have the teachings of you remember this is the they stood up an exceeding great army so that uh that's why we have the general orders and uh then we don't call them our sisters girls only anymore it's um Muslims women and girls training MW G training you see because you don't call a grown woman a girl so it's much to learn it's it's time to grow up now okay so now uh brother uh brother has a solid solid economic program he should talk about brother freedom black we're gonna get into all of that this is just we're laying the foundation for more for more uh um podcast for more uh podcast uh you guys are in the comments going crazy tell those brothers listen listen brothers listen just be patient brothers that i'm gonna wear i'm not finna go off i'm just going off the podcast no no no i'm I'm talking to the brothers i'm talking to the brothers in the chat so we're laying the foundation what i was talking about brother right oh okay okay you tell them you tell them that i'm i'm getting ready to go into our regular class and uh if they want to call in and ask me questions they're welcome to do so and they can put in youtube son of man new nation of islam and you'll be able to go to our channel yeah they can come in and ask me all the questions they want uh is that is that cavern muhammed brother calvin muhammed yes sir that was him okay well brother calvin muhammed send me all that information so people could on the next one i could put that on the screen so people could uh uh uh uh um they could go view you know they could just check it out on the screen they can come on they can come on and they can ask me whatever they want as long as they respectful they can come ask me then keep me here all night if you want i i mean it's in my broadcast i don't i don't put no time limit on it so i was on there six a little over six hours yesterday so you just anytime anything you want to ask me you feel free to do so let's just show respect to each other you know all right so so now um so i'm gonna just close with saying this rewind the video from the beginning and you're gonna get the questi that I'm asking foundational questions the new nation of Islam you know what happens when you become a member and and these things so we can learn more about the new nation of Islam what it does and is it has does it have is it anything similar To uh what the um uh Honorable Elijah Muhammad brought. And if not, why we'll get to all of that. We'll get to the economic plan, we'll get to the even videos that I think people should see. You know, um, even if you disagree with the brother, we gotta respect the work done. You get what I'm saying? Like the work, like the actual work being put in, buildings, uh not buildings, but uh uh uh uh uh like he's got he's sitting in an auditorium that he built along with his his members and things like that. So let's let's let's let's let's let's take a little journey in the new nation of Islam on that note. Uh rewind, rewind, rewind. Thank you, son of man, for coming out this evening. Thank you for Calvin, thank you, brother Calvin Muhammad. And we will be back soon. Uh and we'll talk about it.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:54

I want to thank you, brother Ron. And uh this time, I really enjoyed it. I enjoyed the way you conducted it. And uh very amicable. I appreciate it, bruh. No problem, brother.

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