From The Crow's Nest - Ancient Free Moorish Rite

What if everything you’ve been told about Freemasonry’s roots is only part of the story? We trace the emergence of the Ancient Free Moorish Rite through the life and work of Dr. Clifford E. Hazel Bey, a Most Puissant Sovereign Grand Commander who spent decades unearthing the African and Moorish origins of the craft. His careful strategy—first allowing Moorish attire and identity within Scottish Rite spaces, then publicly inaugurating the Rite in Newark in 2001—wasn’t theatrics; it was the foundation for a living, disciplined tradition.

Across the hour, members speak plainly about what drew them in and what keeps them committed. Prince Yahoshi describes finding a spiritual order that holds the Asiatic self at the center, without chasing degrees for their own sake. Adir shares a path from Moorish Science and self-study to a fraternity that finally fit. Akhet, raised Pentecostal in Brooklyn, explains how he moved from existential doubt to a grounded practice that unites scholarship, ritual, and everyday accountability. Sanchez and Gill illustrate fraternity by deed, not talk—showing how loyalty and service are the Rite’s proof points.

This isn’t abstract philosophy. The Rite defines itself as a divine spiritual order focused on character, unity, and application. Initiation is the beginning of a journey on the compass, not a finish line. Members stress a code that translates into daily life: be loyal, live clean, build with intention, and stand for one another. That culture—paired with a historical corrective about Freemasonry’s Moorish and African lineage—creates a space where scholarship meets transformation and fraternity is earned.

If you’re curious about the real history, the Newark 2001 milestone, or how a modern Moorish Rite applies principle over pageantry, this conversation delivers. Come for the origin story; stay for the lived examples of unity, growth, and service. Subscribe, share with a friend who loves history and spirituality, and leave a review telling us what challenged your thinking most.

Transcript

Host Welcome & Set Up

SPEAKER_06 0:10

What's going on, everybody out there? It's Ron Brown, LMT, the People's Fitness Professional. And we have a we have a smoker here tonight this evening. I got jumped, y'all. I'm getting jumped today, man. You know what I'm saying? Yo, I'm not used to this right here. Yo, but let's build, let's build. Um, you know, peace to the God, King of Mathematics is a lost seven. Yo, king of math, king of math, you supposed to be on the new nation of Islam build. You we you supposed to be on that chat, brother. Uh man, you missed it. Anyway, we're gonna build with the uh uh ancient more uh free Moorish right. The reason why I want to have this build and I'm gonna continue to build with these brothers is because first off, I had no idea this existed. I had knowledge for a long time, 30 something years, 30 years. I had knowledge for 30 years, knowledge for 30 years. I've never heard of this ancient free moorish right. I hear of ancient free moorish right through Mike Mikey Fever. Mikey Fever had the brothers on. I'm like, okay, cool, cool, cool, cool. I didn't understand it. I didn't understand it, and then um uh too much for me, y'all got uh, so I didn't understand it, and then and then all of a sudden, I just start seeing a bunch of examples, great examples that came out of ancient free Moorish right. So, me, I'm so used to Moorish science, five percent, this, that. If I don't hear, if I hear something that's other than the prophet's teachings or what have you, and it's Moorish, at that time, at that time, I was kind of like, Well, what is that? I got confused a little bit, but I'm I'm seeing so many great examples of the ancient free Moorish right. I'm hearing his name a lot, I'm seeing people that I know are part of this, uh a part of this uh uh uh uh this organization. And uh uh, and then you got uh my brother Prince uh Yahoshi in the building. When he said he was a part of it, I was just like, oh man, like okay, okay. And then I see my brother Roy Bey, you know, in pictures. So man, you know, Roy Bay, me and Roy Bey go back probably 15 to 17 years or something like that. And um, you know, I'm just I'm honestly, man, I'm excited to hear exactly what's going on. Brother Cyrus uh is a part of this, and he's the and he was talking about um uh classes that you brothers have going on that that are very interesting, very interesting. I've never heard these kind of classes. So I said, hey, let's bring the brother back up and let's continuously build on the uh free Moorish right. Now, um, the first question I have for you, let's first off say thank you, brothers, for coming out this evening. I really appreciate you, first off. Um, hope all is well and you're enjoying yourself. Um, now the my first question is where did the Moorish right come from? Ancient free Moorish right come from? What's the origin? Like the the the the date and who started it, etc.

Discovering The Moorish Rite

SPEAKER_04 3:37

All right, I'm gonna go with this one. And um and thank you, sir, you know, just for being on the platform once again. Um, it's great to see you, and um, as well as my Morse Wright brethren here. And um, it's a it's a good feeling, uh Brother Ron, to um be known, to be known. You know, you talked about how you knew nothing about us, and um and I always say these days that um every day the ancient free morse right is going to be new to somebody because you know the world is that big and it's that vast. Okay you would explain that you'd been having knowledge of stuff for 30 years, and um and you know, 30 years you uh come to know about the ancient free morse, right? Um that's a blessing, it's a blessing just hearing you say that. Um, we begin with Dr. Clifford E. Hazel Bey. Okay. Who I'm I'm gonna assume, you know, with maturity, that you've at least heard about him before. If you don't uh uh you know know everything about him, Dr. Cliffordy Hazel Bey, um uh seasoned, longtime seasoned Freemason, uh someone that reached the pinnacle of uh Masonic status and um had been a Freemason for over 40 years. Well, we refer to him as he referred to himself as the visionary of the ancient Freemorse right uh for this dispensation of time. And so sometime in 1995, um he began to um put together the um footwork for re-establishing and helping to re-emerge the ancient free Moors right. So I've implied a lot with that word of re-establishment. He um began to put together the footwork. He had for years, for over 20 years, been consumed with research about, of course, the Moors and the uh presence of the Moors in Freemason, Freemasonry historically, uh, which had generally been obscured. But uh when people would um discuss or even know anything about Freemasonry, they always associated with um England, right? Um as being a European or English phenomenon, right? Phenomenal in that it had been around for you know hundreds of years and um surviving as a time-honored uh fraternal organization. Well, Dr. Hazel uh attached himself to the research of unearthing the history of Moors and the Moorish uh origins and the Moorish impact on what would become known as Freemasonry in the Occident, you know, to Europe. And Dr. Hazel insisted insisted that the um uh Freemasonry was an African phenomenon and not a European one. And and that's something too that you know with research that the uh European uh Masonic scholars and writers uh they don't uh dispute that. They don't dispute that. Um they do give testimony to it, sometimes albeit in in an obscure way. So in 95, Dr. Hazel began uh again, uh sir, the footwork of putting it together, um, looking to galvanize the uh people who would uh involve themselves, put in the work, um, tax themselves with um standing out front, uh declaring a Moorish identity uh within the uh realm and confines of Freemasonry. So that's what he did. And that is somewhere along the time where I met him. I was a uh Freemason uh prior to meeting him. Um and then meeting him, he would make known to his constituents that um reestablishing Moore's right Freemasonry was something that uh he was endeavoring to do.

SPEAKER_06 8:52

Okay, right?

Who Is Dr. C. E. Hazel Bey

SPEAKER_04 8:54

And um so by uh 2001, we actually had our official inauguration uh for the reemergence of the ancient free morse right uh in Newark, New Jersey. Nice. Uh yeah, most of the work, uh especially with Dr. Hazel and his uh visioning, you know, had been uh going on. He resided in Maryland, and this is where the meetings and and the discussions would um take place. And so um we put in a lot of work, a lot of research, there was a lot of talk, a lot of buzz about it. He put together uh lodges, right? I know I'm giving you some a lot of stuff to chew on here. Oh this is this is great. This is great, brother. So thank you, sir. Um, he put together lodges, and um in those lodges, he gave the uh Freemasons, he gave the membership the liberty to wear or don Moorish garb, right? Moorish attire as opposed to your traditional Masonic penitentials, which are you know the black suits, the black or red tie, and and so forth. Well, he allowed his constituents uh under his Scottish right charters to um uh attire in Salabia, fezes, sashes, and so forth. They were not Moorish right lodges for the Moorish right, had not yet been re-established. But you could see that that's what he was doing, right? So he was basically introducing or brandishing the profile of Moorish right Freemasonry, right, within the confines of Scottish right and or mainstream and traditional Freemasonry. So we did that for so many years, we operated uh under Scottish right charters. And then finally, in 2001, he said, okay, we're ready to put this ship on the sea. And we had the uh press conference uh in Newark, New Jersey, which was also an inaugural celebration for the ancient Fremor's right. It was just a fantastic, just a great day that I will never forget. You know, one of those times when you feel like you are a part of the making of history. And um so that was just uh a fantastic um uh venue, and Dr. Hazel made it known, and then he said, which within the Morris Right, we we we canonize these words, he said, the making of Morris Wright Freemasons is now a concrete reality. And these brethren that you see here, and I I apologize, I you know, I was trying to get my my photo or some image to work here for me. Um you know, maybe I'll mess around with it when we take a little break. Um, but the brethren that you see here, you see Moorish right Freemasons. You don't see Freemasons uh parading as Moors, or you don't see Moors parading as Freemasons, but what you have are legitimate Moorish right Freemasons, as Dr. Hazel said, that the making of Moorish Wright Freemasons is now a concrete reality. And that was um very special. And on that day, um, I'm throwing this in, on that day prior to the inaugural event which took place in the evening, it was such an involved day. We initiated 28 Morris Wright Freemasons that day.

SPEAKER_06 13:10

And this is 1995.

Researching Moorish Roots In Masonry

SPEAKER_04 13:13

1995, he began his footwork in 1925. And in 2001, we finally he um got it off the ground, we put the ship to sea. So you know how things are, right? The conception generally, you know, starts in a quiet, uh, concealed place. And by the time, you know, you these things require work, you know that. It's it's difficult enough to start a lodge or to even start a club, regardless of what you're doing, right? Or the work that you brethren put in to uh uh create and start this venue. You know, there's some work involved. So we're dealing with Freemasonry, and you're dealing with uh a general Masonic community that was you know unwanting of any kind of new Freemasonry. So many people were adamant about well, you don't need another right. There are enough rights already, and you certainly don't need a noorish one, right? So that's that was the the uh grain, you know, that was the stream that we were up against. And um, so you know, things it things take time. But one thing about Dr. Hazel is that he was meticulous in that way. He was very committed and serious about what he was doing. So he didn't want to just throw things out there. There were times when we could have said, okay, let's go and do it. And I don't forget, Dr. Hazel used to always say, if you put your ship on the sea too soon and you and you're not navigating properly, you'll run into a barge. Right. And you'll destroy your ship and you will destroy everything on it and the people within it. So he said, we're gonna do it and we're gonna do it right. You know, we're not just gonna rush it and put it out there. So I just love and respect him for that tutelage, you know, and for him uh having the kind of insight, being the visionary that he was. And that's why we have these great uh brethren that you see here today, sir. You know, so I know that's a lot for uh simple question, but brothers can tell you, you know, don't get us started, you know.

SPEAKER_06 15:30

Now, um, so the brother Hazel, I'm saying his name correctly, right? Yes, sir. Okay, brother Heizel, he started it and he laid the groundwork in 1995, but then everything started to really take hold in 2001. Now, Newark was uh where it started, and then Maryland is it was that 2001?

SPEAKER_04 15:54

Yeah, well, you know, Maryland was from 1995 all the way through 2001.

SPEAKER_08 16:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 16:00

That's where, you know, um a bulk of the work took place, but we had the um inaugural ball um uh press conference in Newark, New Jersey. Um, yeah, in Newark, New Jersey. You're probably familiar with the place over there on it's called the Orient Temple. It's on Raymond Boulevard in Newark, New Jersey. That's where we had the um historic uh inauguration and and press conference. So we did a lot of work, you know, uh work was was going on uh basically in in a lot of the uh states. Um, but you know, New Maryland was the hub. And so by the time we were ready to uh doc chose uh Newark, New Jersey for that place to announce it and call the press conference to announce it as well.

SPEAKER_06 16:55

Okay, now my question, okay, so obviously uh brother Hazel, Dr. Hazel, definitely knew a lot about masonry before creating this. Now, would you happen to know or can you tell us what degree of masonry did he reach?

SPEAKER_04 17:15

Uh the pinnacle. He was a within the realm of Freemasonry and within the uh degree system, um, he was a most pucent sovereign grand commander. That was his status. He was beyond the 33rd degree. Um had, you know, uh between 95 and 98 degree status in the Memphis Mizraim. Um he was um he reached the pinnacle, and I I I cannot disclose all of what it means to be a most pucent sovereign grand commander, but um I can you know uh but I can say to you that that is pretty much the pinnacle of a Masonic uh career or Masonic achievement within the Masonic system. So he he was at he was he was at the top, you know, he was at the top of the uh Masonic Pyramid, if you will.

SPEAKER_05 18:23

I want to say peace to the panel 40 years or more, um devout, yes, sir. Okay, now peace to my brothers. Can you hear me? I'm sorry about that.

SPEAKER_04 18:35

Peace, sir, brother, brother Mikey, Mikey, peace to the Players. Yeah, peace, peace.

SPEAKER_05 18:39

I just want to say peace to the panel, peace to my brother Ron. I couldn't, you know, the panel is like there's a lot going on, so can't really see what's going on. But I want to say peace to the brothers of the craft, and salute to the history of um C Hazel Bay, yes, sir Grant Commander. Uh I I I I witnessed um brothers at that brothers within that title at work, man. Very beautiful, very deep. We're gonna leave it at that. Very, very deep, though.

SPEAKER_04 19:06

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_05 19:07

Profound, very profound.

SPEAKER_06 19:09

Thank you. All right, now so I wanna I wanna um so now now that we we we got some uh basics and ground covered. Uh I mean, I'm gonna just say this to to have this going since 2001 up until this point and grow it this big, he's gotta be, he's gotta be a great brother, you know what I mean? Because that right there in it within itself is a task. You know what I mean? Just to you know, organize all these different great minds, men, and and have them stay together and and no no fights, no fight, nope, nobody got you know, nobody well, um, you know, well.

2001 Inauguration In Newark

SPEAKER_04 20:00

There were differences. I mean, you know, when you when you when you when you conglomerate people right or you congregate people, there there are going to be uh differences, you know, um always differences of opinions. However, um like Dr. Hazel, if you could get people to focus on what is the ultimate goal, then you know, individuals, you know, will will surrender, you know, that uh that that ego, right? Say, well, let's get uh the ultimate goal accomplished. And then once that happens, you know, we can start fighting again, maybe. But yeah, so you know, there there were um, but nothing, nothing violent, nothing where uh people are getting hurt or anything like that. Um it was pretty smooth for the most part, um, and locating people who were just committed to the goal and who understood that what we were up with. Um, you know, when we began with the HP Morse Right, there was a uh conception that what we were doing was impossible. Right? That was the conception. Um, and certainly um, you know, not embraced, you know, by the you know, larger Masonic community. So it was like, well, you know, you can't do that, and that can't happen, and uh, you know, you guys won't last, you know, for a few months, but you certainly won't last for a year or so. And so that was that, so we we felt that um we were doing um, and we were what was uh impossible. And if you look at the Morse right Freemasons today, every day they are doing and continuing in that tradition of what would otherwise seem like it's impossible to do. And but here it is we're doing it. And yeah, Dr. Hazel was indeed a special uh person. We refer to him as the avatar.

SPEAKER_06 22:15

Gotcha. Okay, so now after you know the the 20, the 28, the 28 men, I would say, or I don't know if it's men and women, uh, the 28 people, they are st they uh were initiated into this right. What is the what's the next step? Once once someone's initiated into the uh ancient free Moorish right, what happens next? Um, you know, I don't know if uh you can expound on that.

SPEAKER_04 22:48

Great question, and we can. I'll I'll leave that to the brethren, I'll leave that to the floor, you know, just to kind of spread the love a little bit here.

SPEAKER_06 23:00

All right, uh let's go with um any anyone want to answer that first?

SPEAKER_00 23:06

Yeah, okay, brother Angula. Peace, thank you. And um say peace to Brother Mikey Fever. How are you doing, beloved? Um, once one once one you know becomes initiated in the angel free Moorish right, you know, they begin their own personal journey, their spiritual journey. We say on the Moorish right compass. So this is a uh a divine spiritual order and it is a um order of self-improvement. So that's my short answer to that question.

SPEAKER_06 23:38

Okay, okay. Um I I was gonna go, I don't know if anyone else wants to chime in, but since I keep seeing Prince uh Yahoshi in the chat, Prince Yahoshi, Prince Yahoshi, this guy's a star, man. I want to hear from the brother Prince Yahoshi. So when when you joined, um, I don't know if you could give us any information uh uh without giving us too much. Um, what was the experience like?

SPEAKER_10 24:09

Peace, brother. Can you hear me? Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_06 24:12

Peace.

Resistance From Mainstream Masonry

SPEAKER_10 24:12

Peace to brother Mikey Fever. Um, I've been studying masonry. You know, I'm part of the Moore Society, but I've been studying masonry almost in my teen years. So I always seemed that it was westernized. Like, you know, the white Freemasons, they always was big up and they're the guy and they have control of a court system, and you know, they're in different backyards. So I was like, um, nah, I ain't going that route when it comes to mastery. I mean, I'm gonna follow my people, you know, the layout of the Moors society. So when I came in contact with the Moore's rights, I'm like, Moorish rights? Wait a minute, the Moors got something to do with the masonry side, and we ain't um coming from the England side, you know, we're the original key holders, we're the biggest secret. The secret is us, the Asiatic ones, you know, the ones the prophet talk about. So um at the age of 33, you know, enlightenment, even dealing with Yashua Hamashima, you know, the delight, you cross over to the other side, you're illuminated. Um, I said, well, I'm gonna become a part of the Morse rights, I'm gonna hop in the waters and see what this is about. You know, if I don't like it, you know, I just step out the waters. So, you know, when I was initiated and I came on board, you know, I can't really go too much details with the rituals. I was embraced by brothers, like real embracement. I mean, a real brotherhood. And you know, I come from the streets, you know, the street organization. So I know what the other world of organization for the streets is like when it comes to brotherhood. I mean, like, you know, you took an oath to make sure your brothers is right and exact, and you got his backs at all times. So when I stepped in the waters with the Morse rights, I felt like a spiritual connection. It was divine, you know. Now I mean my brothers embraced me. You know, um, it's a it's a school of thoughts that it's a university. However, how far you want to go is up to you. Nobody is gonna force you, you know. Y'all hear about the 33 and the third or 23 or the seventh. Nobody's gonna force you to know degree. If you want that degree, go get it. I mean, use your compass to travel. I mean, you could travel as far as you want. So ones get kind of like uh, you know, I got a lot of backlash, you know, the property took the veil off all secret society, but I never seen Noble Draw Ali disregard Freemasonry. He never talked about them being the enemy or anything, you know. So when I listen, it deals me with characteristics. I have to be held accountable. A lot of people don't want to be held accountable to principles of mortals. So I have to move a certain way because I'm a Moore's rights Freemason. So I can't just go out here and wild an XYZ. I'm held to a higher standard, you know, and I know it's divine because even my son pays attention. Daddy, I want to be a sailor like you, you know. So when when my son takes heed and it's changing my family in a positive manner, this is something that the Supreme Navigator put me to be in. So my journey, you know, the waters get kind of rippled here and there. Anytime you join an organization, you know, it's gonna get a little rocky. You're the new guy, they gotta get a feel of you. But you know, my journey has been a blessing, divine, and you know, I'm growing to be a greater man every day. You know, that's my peace on it, brother.

SPEAKER_06 28:08

Wow, gotcha. That's peace. That's peace. So now, um uh, brother uh dear l be I want to hear from you, brother. Uh, you got the the merch on, and uh you know what I mean? You got the merch on. What's that there on your your necklace?

SPEAKER_07 28:26

Uh this here is uh uh picture of our avatar, uh Dr. Clicker E.

SPEAKER_06 28:31

Hazel Beck. Gotcha. Got you, brother. All right, now now uh where are you from and uh how did you get into the teachings?

SPEAKER_07 28:40

Well, I hail from Houston, Texas, and uh I got into teaching like most of us Moors here. Uh, you know, we've been into self-study, uh, uh got into a lot of the teachings of the Prophet Noble Riley, uh joined the Moore Science Temple for a little while, uh, but had always been interested uh in the science of Freemasonry. And um I came across actually through uh a brother by the name of Dr. Alin, uh, who I hear that you're familiar with. Um his teaching uh to the ancient freeman's right. Um once I knew that it was a right for us, um, and um a right that was here to write more, uh, had to be hard. Uh so at that point I started with research. It took a few years actually uh for me to actually uh completely point uh personally uh reasons, but once I did uh level of self-awareness within myself, um peace. Peace. I do apologize. That's okay. But uh once I uh reached a level of self-awareness within myself, uh I went ahead and uh joined.

SPEAKER_06 30:03

Okay, okay, that's peace. Now um I'm I'm glad that you said that. And you know, um uh my last podcast, Son of Man, and things like that. The reason why I'm bringing that up is because when I was going into doing this podcast, I'm like, we're gonna teach the authentic teachings of the prophet, the authentic teachings of uh uh uh uh you know, um honorable Elijah Muhammad. We're gonna teach the authentic teachings of of Allah, you know, and uh I was like kind of like you know what I'm saying, like a horse with blinders, but then I thought about it and I learned I realized in the 5% nation, what we learn is that everyone's entitled to their own see. You know, they're entitled to see things the way they see it. Now, uh, if they're right or wrong, that that will be determined in a bill between you and that person. And and you could either take it or leave it at that point. And um, I said to myself, okay, maybe I need to be a bit more open-minded because everyone's not gonna see things the way you see it and take the same route you feel you should. Do you know what I'm saying? So um, as I'm listening to the brother Adir, I'm like, okay, you went into Morris Science. Maybe you should have stayed. That my mentality in the past was maybe you should have stayed there and learned the teachings and maybe stuck, but nah, it wasn't, it wasn't, it didn't resonate it, it didn't resonate with him as the the way this did. So he took this path. And um, you know, I respect everyone's see and and and and uh their path. And um, I'm I'm glad that you found something that fits you. Now the next person uh I want to build with is uh brother a cat, brother. Man, I've been hearing brother a quet's name, man. Like, man, I'm like, okay, yeah, the brother, yeah, the brother a cat, a brother a cat. I'm like, man, okay. Uh, because the brother a quet on on uh social media, he doesn't really say much, right? He he's gone, you know, he's promoting the brand, he's promoting the you know the thing like that. But um, you know, I want to learn a little bit more about brother a quet. So, brother Ket, I know you're from uh Brooklyn, right? Yes, sir, yes, sir. Born and raised. Okay. Now, how did you get any further, Ron?

SPEAKER_05 32:36

I'm an unofficial member of the uh Moores right. I've been like my cat and I was building about that like five years ago. Yeah, I'm an unofficial member. Like, you know, I was supposed to go in, and I'm still gonna do that in my travels. I thought I'm gonna held over to the Moores right before the year's over, before next year's over.

SPEAKER_06 32:55

That's peace. Now, now, brother Kate, you're originally from Brooklyn. Now, being that you're from Brooklyn, we're the same age. We're the same age, we're the same age, right? So we came up, we saw the we saw the five percent nation, we saw the newabians, we saw the nation of Islam, we saw everything, right? What was your journey like in the 80s and 90s? You know what I'm saying? Like, did you go through the newabians? Did you go through the five percent nation? How did you get to the uh a free uh ancient free moorish, right?

What Initiation Leads To

Personal Journey: Prince Yahoshi

SPEAKER_01 33:30

No, hell they said we could talk. I gotta put my time on, beloved, because I don't want to go on, but first I want to just you know, first thank you and um brother Mikey Fever for your hospitality, for having the ancient free moors right here, giving um honors to my supreme grand commander Aweem L Day, to my grandmaster, brother Abdullah, and all of the brothers of the flagship, all the sailors, sea stars of the order of more star, and to your audience, everybody of the who is subscribed, who likes, who shares, who donates, right, to NYP talk show as it is a venue. Um, I think when we look back on it some years, uh we're gonna see those things. And I just uh uh pray your brothers' prosperity, success, and um, and you know, just forward momentum as your brothers are doing. Um, yeah, my brother I cat, um, you know, uh born 1980, born and raised, grew up in Gowanas Houses, Gowanis Projects, Brooklyn, New York, right downtown. Um, you know, as was said, you know, everybody's journey is a little different. Um, we all come different ways, and I'll try to give mine in a quick, you know, two, three minutes. But um, I did grow up on Gowanus Houses. Um, my upbringing was more uh, so I grew up uh Pentecostal Christian. I grew up, you know, with grandmother, grandfather, grandmother who was in the church, uh, you know, church mother, you know, uh in there multiple times a week for different services. She's there Saturday, getting ready for Sunday. So my upbringing came, came up through the Pentecostal Christianity. And, you know, I went through, you know, all of the ups and downs of that, you know, uh getting saved and you know, trying to live a holy life and you know, having my own ups and downs as a a pre a teenager, you know, coming into my adult years. Um, so my journey was uh, and at that time, you know, uh 80s going into 90s, going into teenage years, I went out to Beach Channel High School, which, you know, living downtown Brooklyn, going all the way out to Far Rockaway was an experience. I thought I was getting something different. And I didn't realize at the time in my naivety that it's projects and hoods everywhere. You're just going out into somebody else's hood. So, you know, but I had that experience, graduated Beach Channel in 1998, and my upbringing, beloved, was, you know, you know, like a lot of people, you know, grew up in a lot of violence, you know, a lot of, you know, it was it was, you know, late 80s, early 90s, you know, crack hit, it was crazy. You know, my upbringing, I tell people all the time, you know, as a youth, you know, out in a little park, you know, playing baseball because we couldn't roam around the projects because it was too dangerous. You know, one of my early memories is, you know, uh uh running back to the buildings after shootouts, you know, and and it was just a crazy, crazy time. So my upbringing more was trying to, you know, live, trying to get to 18, you know what I mean? Trying to uh like my mom always said, you can get to 18, get a job. I know you can take care of yourself. So my upbringing came up um through the pin through the church, and I think my my uh uh you know uh introduction to the knowledge came a little bit later as I was um uh coming into manhood, early 20s. Um I had a lot of uh things going on. My grandmother died at that time, and I got a little disconnected with my faith, disconnected with you know the church. And I was a you know, I was a real believer. So as I was an adult and realized that I wasn't going back to church, you know, I I thought I was going to hell. You know, I had that existential moment, you know, where I'm you know in myself, like, you know, me as an adult, like, man, I'm going to hell, you know, and and that really hitting me. And that took me into, you know, why I believe what I believe, got me into Christianity, that got me into the mind, you know, got me into Jesus, you know, the history. And that took me basically a whole spin back to Kemet and going to Kemet took me basically, I said to myself as a young adult, you know, I feel like I need to know a little bit about everything. So uh when I came across Freemasonry, it was I was doing a lot of reading, an avid reader, and I was reading at the time Manley P. Hall, um, A Secret Teachers of All Ages. Once I read that, it blew my mind like how how do people get this knowledge, right? Where does all this come from? And I saw he was an honorary member. Fast forward, you know, as you said, um, at that time Dr. York was on the scene. Um, it was a lot of information. It was how's the consciousness? You know, it was just a lot of information every night. You get the debates, and that's why I um was introduced, and I uh ran into a uh video by Dr. Aline L Bay. And you know, from there, the brother dropped his number and I said, you know, let me call. I called, you know, had conversations, told him about who I was, what I was looking for, and and um, and that, you know, led me because I said at that time, I feel like I need to know a little bit of everything. And I saw in Freemasonry, like there was something there, but I needed something that was one, real, and two, I needed something that was gonna fit my spiritual yearning. Because at that time, I I didn't just want you know, something that was just gonna be something to have. I needed something that was gonna secure my soul, you know, something that was gonna give me uh a faith that I once had in church, but I'm not in church anymore. So how do I find that? You know, so that got me into Buddhism, spirituality, the mind, and all of that culminated, you know, into I would say my heart chakra opening, me realizing that, you know, if I really believe that God is everybody and everything, and we are part of that, so what is what how does God reconnect? We reconnect by reconnecting with each other. So you as you said, you know, I'm I'm uh an avid ambassador for the ancient free moorish right. You know, I joined in two 2012, so this is my 13th year. Um, and as as many, you know, has said, you know, I was skeptical. I come from Brooklyn and we we laugh about this all the time, you know, internally. You know, I'm I'm looking at everybody like, you know, I'm I'm waiting to see where where it's going wrong, who trying to get me, right? You know, and then you know, you talk about this Supreme Grand Commander, who is that? You know what I mean? So that's two. So I'm even in law looking at brother like, oh, they they they they fully, right? Let me see when it's gonna stop, right? But um 13 years later, as as brother Yoshi said, you know, I put my my toes in the water of the furs of Dr. Aline and you know the rest of history, you know, it is a as was said, you know, it's a spiritual order, but it's an order based on historical fact, you know, dealing with the mores of antiquity, you know, really selling those seeds, you know, and we're talking about real history that you may not always just find on Google or YouTube or even your local library, you know, or even, you know, the national libraries. You know, there are places that, you know, scholars go, where books are, you know, where information is is is understood. So I say that to say, you know, um, you know, I I connect, you know, with people online. I'm I'm I'm as you said, you know, promoting the more it's right, uh putting a word out there for the more it's right, and really trying to connect with like-minded individuals who are looking for something real and something that's gonna put them, whatever their spiritual uh belief, whatever your religion, whatever your you know, creed, it'll put you um in line with a real uh yearning connection with the creator through our everyday actions, and that being evidenced through our connections with our brothers. So, you know, you you heard us talk about our character, it's nautical, you know, we're seafarers, we're we're sailors, and our number one prerogative on anything is unity. Uh so that's what you're gonna find different here. You know, this is not a you know, fly by night, it's not a you know, we're just trying to get members or we're trying to get out there. No, you know what I mean? We'll do what we gotta do regardless. But here it's about a spiritual connection with your creator. That's your first, that's the first objective, that's the ultimate objective. And that you get right coming in the door as an Asiatic. So I know I said you know a lot, but I hope that you know gave a little insight. Also, I'm a I'm a father, you know, I'm married, uh, have two boys, you know, um working in the education field, you know, working to uh uh uh move up in the ranks, so to say, to be a uh more of an influence, you know, to the kids coming up in the system of education, you know, which is is vital for the kids that are there. And it's my way to give back, it's my way to you know gain that entry into the beyond and also you know connecting with you know like-minded brothers and sisters.

SPEAKER_06 42:38

All right. So now, brother, uh you know, there's a lot of brothers. Um, hope your brothers come up on the next one so we can get everybody uh building. Brother Sanchez, I I want to build with you for a hot second, brother Sanchez. Okay, all right. So he's his um brethren.

SPEAKER_08 43:01

Oh, you got here and cut your mic down.

SPEAKER_01 43:09

All right, uh, what about yeah, if you got it streaming, you gotta cut it off. You have it on on the computer?

SPEAKER_06 43:18

No, sir, not a subject. All right, so so we'll we'll we gotta get we'll get we gotta get uh brother Sanchez next next next next bill. So uh brother Gill. Okay, brother Gil, can we can we build with the brother Gill?

SPEAKER_11 43:40

Yeah, PDS, apologize for um interrupting, but uh if you want to go back to Brother Sanchez, you know, I it was me because Brother Sanchez is here with me. He came to visit. So he's on the other side next to me. I was listening to the screen on my computer. You know, that's uh it was a conclusion. So we were kind of like figuring out, like I'm no, I'm I'm muted, but it was my my audio going through his mic. So um, I don't mean to cut off the uh question, beloved, but I do want to be respectful to Grandmaster Sanchez, you know, and and just uh let him finish. And I'll be happy and and it'll be an honor to participate in this uh in this conversation. Peace.

SPEAKER_06 44:17

Peace.

SPEAKER_02 44:21

All right, brother, brother Sanchez. All right, sir. Um, thank you, and thank you for having me here. Thank you for having us here. You're welcome. Um glad to be here once again, and peace and fraternity agreement to uh my brethren, and peace and greetings to your audience as well.

SPEAKER_06 44:40

Peace and greetings to you, brother. Now I want to ask you how long have you been a part of this organization?

Houston To The Craft: Adir

SPEAKER_02 44:48

Well, um, I'm also joined um on 2013, you know, so it's been uh it's been a while. I've been um with ancient free models right since then. And you know, um, you know, this old axiom, everything happens for a reason. And you know, I was introduced uh to uh ancient free mortals right, actually for my uh brother, my grandmaster, brother Gill, here present with us as well. And that was the beginning of my uh you know, my path. You know, and since then I've been sailing with brethren.

SPEAKER_06 45:35

Okay, yes, sir. Okay, that's me. Okay, so now um where where are you from exactly? Are you from? Are you because I know the other brother, brother Adir, he's from Houston, right? Where are you from? We got a cat from Brooklyn.

SPEAKER_02 45:53

Well, um, I heal from New York, but I'm originally from Mexico, sir.

SPEAKER_06 45:59

Oh, okay. What what what uh what what what part of New York?

SPEAKER_02 46:04

Uh I'm on Staten Island, New York. You said you said what?

SPEAKER_06 46:08

Sorry.

SPEAKER_05 46:08

Staten Island.

SPEAKER_06 46:10

Staten Island. All right, Jalen in the building. All right. So now uh coming up in in Shaolin or or Staten Island, uh, what was your upbringing like? Was it like uh uh uh did you come up in Christianity, you know, and things like that? Uh did you did you what what other teachings?

SPEAKER_02 46:32

Well, I was born into a Catholic family, and my my history is no different from brethren, you know. Uh I was um looking for more um knowledge, more life. But uh what I saw uh with uh my grandmaster, brother Gill, um was something that uh within the religion is lacking, you know, whether um through the religion we uh learn to become uh good uh men, good people, you know, um, but there's always something, something missing. There's always a piece that is being missing. Uh when I had the opportunity to uh meet my grandmaster, uh at that time, uh a great, great friend, great friend of mine. Um, you know, I was um going through certain circumstances, and you I approached um many people and doors were closed to me. So this brother, this great brother, um you know, don't even ask, and I was having used barely sometime meeting him, and he'd step up. I don't really want, I don't really want to go into the details of that, but uh you know, having that kind of person, that caliber of person, you know, that that can step towards something um in eight of someone that is in need, bro, that that says much without saying a word, if you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_06 48:17

Yes, sir, right, right. So that that right there is is uh like a behair and uh the same thing, the character, the the brother, the brotherhood, like okay, fraternity, fraternity is the key word, fraternity.

SPEAKER_05 48:32

That's correct. That's what that's what we lack. I mean, the world lacks, but I'm telling you, not it's not only Masonry that gives you that, you know. I'm saying anyway, anyone could be a mason, right? You gotta live by it. The fraternity, the oath, you gotta be inspired, you gotta be careful who's raising you as well.

SPEAKER_02 48:49

Well, um indeed. Uh, I believe you got a point in that. Um, Brother Mikey. Uh, as you just mentioned, everything can become a Freemason, but it's not just becoming that Freemason, it's live up to that character. You know, in ancient in ancient Fremor's right, we are uh we are admonished that uh Moors to live by the code. You know, there is a there is a certain uh structure that we must uh you know uh upstand.

SPEAKER_06 49:24

Which that's what makes that's what makes it Moorish. Is that what you're saying?

SPEAKER_02 49:28

Um that's um that's what makes me um right tailor, yes, sir.

Brooklyn Roots & Path: Akhet

SPEAKER_06 49:33

Right, okay. All right, that's a piece right there. So now um uh I want to take it to uh brother Gil. I know I'm just basically getting a getting a gist of you know how these brothers come into the teachings, what's the experience like? What's the experience like? Because, you know, um I could be wrong, however, you know, we we get all this knowledge and it sounds good, it all sounds great. We you can quote degrees and have so many degrees, but what's your character like? Is the teachings actually working for you? That's that that's that's so key for me right now. And so I you know, I just want to know, you know, how is it changing people's lives? You know what I'm saying? So, brother Gill, uh uh, you could take it away, man. Where are you from? Uh uh, how'd you get to the teachings, you know, and and how has it changed you?

Staten Island Voice: Sanchez

SPEAKER_11 50:36

Peace, brethren. Um, peace, commander, uh, brother, Grandmaster Abdullah, uh, brethren, brother uh Abdinour, Grandma Sanchez, Brother Prince, uh, Brother Uh Adir over there, uh, the host, um, Brother Mikey, peace, brethren. Thanks for the invitation. I am uh Brother Gail, and I've been serving in the Moor Strike for over 15 years. And I am uh born in Mexico, you know, lived in Los Angeles, California, moved to New York, and um uh basically anchored here, you know. My my my wife is here, my kids are here now. And, you know, like um like my brethren, everything started with a spiritual journey, you know, and um I will say that coming into the Moorsh right, basically, uh I'm not saying it's gonna it's the culmination, you know, but it's uh the um uh complementarity of the spiritual journey that I uh that I um embarked as a child, you know, because it doesn't matter the background, Catholic, Christian, Baptist, Buddhist, you know, uh it doesn't really matter your your your spiritual background. But if it led you to a school of thought, to us you know, to this type of spiritual knowledge, uh we understand that we understood or we felt that we needed something. You know, there was something missing that that uh bond, you know, that uh link to the chain that basically put us all in that church. You know, so now like Brother Akhe, you know, I was making that bridge of connection with Brother Akhe when uh I was born and raised in a Christian family. So, you know, all that about doing good, being good, fearful of God, the creator. And at the same time, you know, that built my character as a let's say a good person, but also put on me a lot of chains, obstacles, you know, to the way that we see and perceive the world. You know, because um, when you come out to the world, to the people, you on you see and you come across different beliefs, uh, criticisms, you know, because either you criticized or you criticize. You know, you criticize other religions because you're Christian, or you're being criticized because you're not part of the other religions, right? So one way or another, you we are let's say raised with certain blocks, you know, and that's what kind of like put me on that path of I say that I believe in God, he believes in God, I am the owner of the truth, he is the owner of the truth, you know, and um to tie that with your question on how did that uh coming to the Moorsh right make me, you know, as the man that I am today, is that I understood, you know, that like Brother Arked said, when we talk to the about the creator, it's not it's not a name, it's not a person, it's not a picture, you know, but it's that energy that at the end of the day wants us together, you know. So um when I found that in the Morse, right, and it eliminated the obstacle that connected me to the creator, when I understood that it was not the name which you invoked the creator, but the intentions that you put on it. So when I understood that and I learned that, then that um kind of like made me the type of uh open-minded man that I am today. So we can have a conversation about uh spirituality without mixing it with religion. You know, so um like I said, brethren, you know, my journey started with that, uh in the search of that connection with with the creator. Um that brethren, also, like brother Yahoshi uh mentioned, it taught me another um another angle, another point of view of what loyalty, brotherhood, friendship was all about. You know, you can't uh have one without the other. You can say that you're a brother if you're not a friend. You cannot say that you're a friend if you're not a brother. You know, so now when you come to the Moorish right, and from the minute, from the minute that you put a step in the lodge, you know that you belong to us if you are willing to prove that loyalty to your brother. So um it's not your journey just goes as far as you want to take it. You can either learn how to walk and learn and walk in the lodge, or you can learn how to walk and conduct your life that way. You know, so now uh I will I will talk on that with what Brother Sanchez mentioned. So when he saw that, it was just me bringing what I learned in the lodge to the people who I considered friends or brothers. So at that point, I saw a brother in need and I had to step up. So now one thing that I learned from our um uh grandmaster, Dr. Hisel Be, um the avatar, is that um you can just uh um be as loyal, brethren, as uh as you would like to be be treated as you would like to be treated. Treat as you would like to be treated. So you wanna you want loyalty, you gotta prove loyalty. You know, and I don't want to expand uh brethren, you know, uh Alalim said, you know, we always say, like, you just gotta give us five minutes and we'll take five hours. But brethren, um, that's that's uh uh a short story of how I came across the Moorish right, uh, how the Moorsh right has worked on me as on my character, and I just trust in the creator next to the creator that I uh I I could be of service, you know, and and and utility to the craft. Peace and uh fraternal greetings, brethren.

SPEAKER_05 58:20

Peace, peace, peace.

SPEAKER_06 58:22

Now um uh of course, you know, this podcast goes an hour, right? So um, you know, we I would definitely love for you brothers to come back up because there's so much that I want to unpack about the this uh this uh group, if you will. Um uh before we cut out, I just want to get something from Brother Abdullah, Abdullah and Brother Abdinor. Abdunor, Abdunor. Okay, I want to um and then and let's say we do a podcast again. I would like to have your brothers back up again, and uh I got some other questions to ask. Um uh brother, let's start with Brother Abdullah. How did you get into the teachings? And how long?

SPEAKER_00 59:09

Peace. I've I've been a member of this organization since 20 uh 19. Um, it's a part of my journey, um, my Moorish journey. Um, I came into knowledge of um into the Moorsh paradigm in about 2014, and um, like many brethren, uh, wanted to know more about Freemasonry. It's something that had always been in my ear on my Moorish journey. Um, I learned about the ancient Free Moorish, right? And I decided to take the take the plunge. Um, I reached out to Brother Akette, and you know, he won me over when we spoke on the phone. I still remember the day. Um I called, I was at work on a forklift or something like that, and I took, I just pulled the forklift over and just I don't know. He called me actually. I had reached out and he called me and I took his call. And um, you know, I I met brethren in in Brooklyn. That's where our uh our lodge is. And I've been uh, you know, I've been sailing ever since. So just keep it in brief, beloved. Thank you for the question. You're welcome. So are you from you from New York? I live in um New Jersey. I'm originally from the DC area. I live in I live here, I live in the New York area, but I'm in Jersey.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:22

DC, DC in the building. Hold on, we'll see where Brother Cyrus is down there. I can't let you in, brother Cyrus, because it's just packed, it's a packed joint. But I see you down there, brother Cyrus. DC Maryland in the building.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:36

When the ancient free Morris right come on this podcast, they come in deep like Wu-Tang. It's like both.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:43

I got jump out jumped. What am I gonna do now? Uh brother, brother Abnor. Uh uh, so how did you get into the teachings? Where are you from? Uh, peace, peace. Can you hear me good?

Character, Code, And Fraternity

SPEAKER_09 1:00:58

Yes, sir. All right, peace and blessings to the flagship. Yeah, bless it to my flagship, baby. So, um, you know, I've been in Cali, Georgia, Cali, Georgia, all my life. That's where I'm from. Uh, you know, going back and forth, you know how it is. Um, my Morris journey, or this is how I look at the ancient free Morris, right? So imagine, like in your own mind, imagine becoming the man that you always wanted to be, right? Becoming the man you always wanted to be. Okay, so you gotta think about what does that man look like, right? What does that man smell like? Right, okay, okay. How does that man behave? All right, what does that man build? So you have that in your mind's eye, right? And then you moralize that man. That's what an ancient free market is for me, right? So um, I I you know, a lot of my family always felt like I was just a natural Mason, right? I always felt like I just thought, you know, it is what it is, but like my father, he was with Russ Crucian, you know, I got uncles that was Prince Hall, Scottish, right, all that stuff. So I always wanted real brotherhood, you know what I mean? And then I go to college and you see the Q Dogs Omega Sci-Fi, right? And they got the golden boots with the with all the the baddest chicks on campus, you know what I mean? And I'm like, hmm, maybe I should be a uh a Q Dog, right? And then, but the problem is my granddaddy, he was in Alpha Phi Alpha, right? And um they got an interesting history, you know what I mean. Jesse Owens, Martin Luther King, uh um uh Thurgood Marshall, they all alphas, so I'm like, okay, maybe I should be an alpha, right? But they ain't what they used to be. You see what I mean? Things got corrupted, and then you know, you have the different Masonic rites, you know. And um, when I was when I was younger, I used to read a lot of uh Malachi York, you know what I mean? And um he had some things in there, you know, with his regalia on. He has some pages on there with his regalia on and said he was a Morris Mason. Yeah, I was like, okay, that's what I want right there. You feel me? And it took some time for me to find the the the Morris right, the ancient free Morris right. So I'm I'm a new new uh new initiate. I just got initiated uh uh this quarter, this year, and with my in lodge uh initiation. So yeah, I'm young, you know. If this whole thing was a ship, if this whole thing was a dryer, a ship, then you know, I'll just be cleaning floors right now, just like I was telling L Day yesterday, I'll be cleaning floors, you know what I mean? Knocking particles off the ship. He's the apprentice, yeah, exactly. Exactly. So I'm I'm on my I'm on my first degree, you know what I mean? So uh I'm learning a lot.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:12

Pardon me, so you're saying you're young as in the degrees, exactly.

SPEAKER_09 1:04:16

Okay, okay, not in age, exactly. Thank you for that, that little caveat there. So, yeah, so I gotta wrap this up because we run out of time, but um, you know, one thing I was thinking about when when um when when some of the brothers was talking is about cycles, right? So, you know, I always felt like I was I was a natural-born Mason, and you know, that's all about fraternity. And it's interesting because you know, we're all together and we're all here for one cause, which is to give and receive light. That's really the cause here, and um, you know, it's interesting because when you look at females, right, when they get all together in a group and they spend so much time together, don't they get on the same cycle, right? Don't they like have to go to the store and get get they pads at the same time and all that? So with us, it's like we kind of get on the same cycle too, but it's it's the cycle of giving and receiving light. You see what I mean? It's a very dynamic cycle, you see what I mean. So, you know, being in with this right and being around these great men, you know, it helps me develop myself, you know. Like I being around L Day or listening to L Day, it helps me develop my my genius, you know what I mean. Being around uh Brother Abdullah, that that helps me build my organization skills, you know what I mean. Um being around brother Cat that that helps me uh uh give more wisdom and receive more wisdom and uh knowledge and understanding, you know what I mean? Being around brother uh Prince Yahusha, Yahoshi, you know, that that helps me walk and talk with no fear, you know what I'm talking about. Because y'all know brother brother Yahushi ain't got no fear in him, you know what I'm talking about. That's right, you know, develop developing my fire like like brother Gil, maintaining my discipline, like like brother Sanchez, you know what I mean? Leading with love, life, and light, like brother Adir. You know what I mean, and and and building my my power to manifest, like brother, you won't let in here, brother Cyrus. You know what I mean? Oh no, I ain't got nothing to do with that. No, I'm just playing with you. I'm just like but the point that I'm making is each and every one of us bring uh a certain vibrational life.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:40

That's right.

SPEAKER_09 1:06:42

And if you if that's appealing to you, check us out. Peace.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:46

Right, right, peace, peace. So yeah, that was that was that was that was beautiful, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:51

You know, a lot of science right there.

Grandmaster Gill’s Perspective

SPEAKER_06 1:06:53

All all the members broke it down, why they joined and their experiences. This is what I'm talking about, though. You know what I'm saying? Like, I knew it was something because I'm like, you're a part of this too. You too. Yes, you like I didn't even know this existed, but you know, I of course I have a lot to learn about this, and so does the audience. I'm just introducing the audience to the group and and and trying to get an understanding uh of hopefully you brothers that come back soon, soon, soon, soon, so we can break down some of the teachings as much as you can give to the public.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:35

Uh well, we can add on to that. They could go back to the older episodes as well, too, because there's a lot of information that they dropped on here about that.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:42

Yeah, you know what, uh uh uh um brother K, we got to build on that because we could give you brothers a uh what you call it, it's a playlist. So everyone who's uh a uh recurring guest on the show, they get a playlist on the on the page so they can always go back to that and review the videos. You know what I'm saying? So on that note, before we cut out, I would like to say peace to everybody in the chat. Thank you guys for coming out this evening. And uh any last words? You know, you had the floor.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:18

Um, yeah, we'll definitely hear from our L Day closing words, but I definitely want to uh thank you, the host, thank um your audience, thank you for the questions, thank the sailors for being here tonight. And there's much, much, much more uh below the surface. Um, you know, the ancient free moors right um is here to stay, and we will continue as as you've seen, you know, things just popping up almost seem out of nowhere, but you know, there there's a lot of work behind the scenes.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:49

So uh Nicholas Bay, you too? Oh wow, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:57

Well, I would say for all the Moore Strike Masons in the chat, stand up. You know, it's time, and um, and you will see and hear from from us more, and we look forward to building bridges of understanding, uh, bridges of camaraderie, of uh eventual friendship, and as the brother said, eventual uh brotherhood, uh, because that is ultimately what we're here to do. Uh create that brotherhood of man. And more importantly, as was said earlier, um, it's the application, beloved. It's the application, and it has to be real. It has to be real, especially in this time and and age where you know, literally you can be here today, brother Ron, and literally go on tomorrow. Right, yeah. So our our stance is you know, it's gonna be no regrets. You know, we're here to uh uh practice uh what we've been taught as our spiritual practice each and every day. So you'll see it's say you'll hit see it said on our Facebook groups. Uh for anybody out there, look to see us on Facebook, um, as well as our website, um uh AFMR-bornshrite.org. And um you will see we often talk about, you know, and brothers talked about we uh we raise the sun, you know, each and every day. And that is our charge, and that's what we do. So this is an example of it. These are the brothers, and you know, we're gonna continue to uh uh let the audience in the world know and show the world as Dr. Hazel uh commissioned us to do, uh, show the world what Freemasonry looks like, because the world hasn't seen Freemasonry like this in a long, long, long time. And we look forward to expounding on that and why that is and why we're even here today able to do this with you. So peace, love, and life, brothers.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:55

I'll get back to the end of that.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:58

Well, brother uh Mikey, brother Ron, please back to your time and um what I will say will segue into the next time we do meet, and um, we look forward to that. So this will give you a broader perspective. Uh Dr. Clifford the A. Zelbe uh was also uh an esteemed member of the Morris Science Temple at one point. And I too had been in the Morris Science Temple, as well as the Nation of Islam. So it gives you a perspective on the foundation and the foundation uh contributors, and also to um to commend both of you on your insight that the brethren you see here, uh these brethren indeed, beginning with Brother Yahushua, are uh stars. These brothers are stars, and uh this is what uh the ancient remorse right is about, but that perspective uh will help serves going into the next uh show. Dr. Hazel uh had that experience, a steam member for years in the uh Morrisons Temple.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:19

Oh wow! Oh wait, hey man, listen, that that was perfect, brother. Brother Aleem L Day is on point. I heard it soon when that first time he started talking.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:29

I said, Okay, so he's sharp, brother Sharp. Right. I want to say thanks to you, brothers, for coming out. You're made a grand architect of the universe watch over all my brothers on here. You know what I'm saying? May I may I sell, you know, sell in peace. Shout out to C Hazel Bay, sir, forever forever rising. You know what I'm saying? And that's it, man. For coming out for real, man. They'll know more about you guys. And don't forget, I'll catch I'll be there next year, bro.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:55

Yes, sir. Peace. Peace. On that note, peace, peace.