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Untold Wars of Black and Indigenous Peoples

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Hidden Battles isn’t about reliving pain for shock value; it’s about pulling a clean thread through a tangled history. We open with a simple claim that changes everything: “Black” and “Indian” weren’t separate worlds until paperwork made them so. From the Southeast strongholds of Creek, Seminole, and Geechee communities to the march into Indian Territory, we map how forced removal set the stage for unexpected resilience—fifty plus all‑Black towns, land allotments, and oil strikes that turned children like Sarah Rector into millionaires while courts assigned “guardians” to manage their money.

Together with our guest, Crip Jesus, we unpack the mechanics that rarely make it into textbooks: Dawes Rolls categories, the politics behind who counted as “by blood” or “freedman,” and how those lines decided inheritance, voting, and sovereignty. We revisit Red Stick resistance, Seminole networks that bought kin out of bondage, and cross‑border routes into Spanish Florida and Mexico. Flags and symbols matter here, too—crescents, stars, and Creole threads that point to older Moorish and Atlantic connections, long before Hollywood flattened the story with cowboys and caricatures.

This is also a conversation about what repair looks like on the ground. Beyond debates and labels, we advocate for skills that anchor freedom: growing food, making clothes, building shelter, and reading the records that restore land and lineage. Black Wall Street doesn’t appear out of thin air; it grows from removal-era towns, resource savvy, and coordinated protection—and it’s targeted for those same reasons. If you’ve ever been told your people “have no history,” this walkthrough hands you dates, names, and a map back to what was taken and what remains.

Listen, share with someone who needs a fuller story, and leave a review to help more people find this work. Subscribe for part two as we dive deeper into sources, maps, and practical steps for reclaiming land, skill, and story.

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SPEAKER_01

Peace, peace, peace. What to do, world? It's your brother Mikey Fever. Welcome to another episode of NYP Talk Show. On this Thursday night of 2026, it is Brick Outside. Peace to the gods, peace to the Moors, peace to the um ATR movement. Peace to the world. That's all I gotta say. It's Thursday. We here. And uh what is it? I gotta say again. Don't forget to comment, like, share, subscribe. We got super chats. Check out our merch on the website. Share with a friend. Check out the merch. You will love the merch. We got some good hats on there. Tonight we have Crip Jesus who will be joining us shortly. Just getting some things together. A powerful presentation to present to y'all. And tonight's topic will be Hidden Battles, the untold story of black and Indian conflicts in North America. Conflicts in America, pardon. Peace to the chat. Peace of the chat. Peace of the chat. Peace to Davis Baby Locke 9890. We see you. Peace to you. Peace and light family. Omo Saide, I see you. I see you. You know, we got Crip GC getting things geared up ready for us. You let us know when he's ready to come up. Just give him the signal, Crip. You know. Um, yeah, man. I'm just happy to be here. Shout out to my brother Ron Brown. Shout out to those who follow our subscribers, our listeners, those who download. We appreciate the support. And check out our other shows that we have in our playlist. We got tons of shows about the occult. We are talking about local means. We are talking about the Eurobo culture, Haitian voodoo, masonry, and many other things. And we got a lot more in store for you guys. So do stay tuned in. Do share, do comment, do like, do subscribe, engage. You let us know what else you want to see on the show. And we got ya. We just waiting for the brother to get his presentation up and running because he has a lot of information he'd like to share on this topic. And I'm looking forward to listening to hearing about the untold conflicts amongst the indigenous and black and blacks in this country. You know, because there's a lot of history that we have to learn about. And we must learn to come together, learn from these errors, learn from these obstacles, understand part of find commonality and see what happened to both cultures and to the people so we can move forward. I'm looking to do a show in the future about the conflict that I'm that I see happening on social media amongst FBA, continental Africans, and Caribbean people in diaspora, which I found very, very odd, you know. Very odd. I mean, we have to learn to understand one another's culture, know where we both came from, and proceed forward. Uh shoot. I think the brother's here. Jesus. Peace. What'd it do, brother?

SPEAKER_00

My family, man.

SPEAKER_01

How you feeling, God?

SPEAKER_00

I'm feeling great. I'm really excited about this. You know what I mean? We're here to focus on the continuation of the situation. You know, it's levels to it.

SPEAKER_01

You know, levels to it, man. I'm happy. Happy to have you here, God. I know you're about to bless us with some good work, a power, powerful presentation. I see the guy loaded up, so I'm about to share it and let it let you take it away, God.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, let's get it. So, yeah, so Black Indian reparations. Now, let's deal with that title first before we go any further. Uh, can you pull it back down? And then I'm gonna let you know when it's done. So, black Indian, right?

SPEAKER_05

Yep, go ahead, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00

Now, we got the blue Bible, you know. I'm Crip, Blue. That was everybody was caught up there. But that's the bread on the sandwich. You gotta chew the sandwich. That's if you get to chewing the sandwich, you see, this book is all about identity.

SPEAKER_04

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00

Crip, Jesus, blue, right? These are all dealing with the person trying to figure out what these things mean and how they connect to him, how they connect to the divine or even the lower self, just life in general. So, in the midst of that, there was some parts in this book where I'm talking about what I discovered about me and my people, which is our people as well, that I discussed in my last name and my tribe, the Gullah Geechee, in the history, and just you know, Cherokee, Semino, Creek, Choctaw, Chickasaw, all these uh Yamassi, all these groups of original people who have documented and uh long legacies here in North America, right? I got a lot of questions about them.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

A lot, especially people who may have kind of, oh, I heard I was Gulagie, but I don't know much, or people that was Gulla Geechee from the Carolinas. Oh boy, okay, y'all know what's going on. You know what I mean? I got a lot of people tapping in with me behind the tribal aspect and a lot of different other aspects, but for sure the tribal element. It seems that the history of the uh you know, so-called black people here in North America that is documented is not known. It's even very much suppressed by the American media. You feel me? And so a lot of people were very excited to find out that there was someone documenting these things, uh, even putting images to them, teaching them, going all the way in, especially if these things connect to your own children, your own family, your own lineage. Uh, I know for me, even after writing the books, I still study them and they help me draw back my own bloodline or different bloodlines of different characters or people, historical figures that come up. Oh, they're connected to this way, that way. You know what I mean? So uh what I did was, you know, everything for me is about teaching. It's not about my ego, it's not even about the money. So, as I was teaching from the blue Bible, like I said, the questions I got the most were about our people here in America.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Bible does a good job explaining the connection as far as between the Americas and Africa and in Europe and Asia and the gangs and the symbolism and the esoteric side, and even the history, because I we even mentioned it, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Muscogee, Creek, Cherokee, so on. But you know, you can't jam everything in one book. So it's like as I'm mentioning these things, people are having questions. Oh, well, tell me more about the Cherokee, tell me more. So naturally, that developed this book, the Black Indian Wars.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_00

And I know she put black and Indian, and that and that's that's very important because that's exactly what they did to us. You know, I mean, they separated to where we understand it as black wars, Indian wars, is something separate, it's something that went on differently, and that's why it's hard for us to understand that our story here in America starts covered up by them reclassifying, redrawing the so-called Indian.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00

What is an Indian? You know, whether you look in Asia, who they call the Indians, or whether you look in America's who they call the Indians, is the indigenous people.

SPEAKER_05

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00

Right? So as long as you go to a land, there's indigenous people there. If they're melanated, if they fit the phenotype of us, they're black Indians. You know what I'm saying? It's really that simple, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01

Uh that's what Columbus called the people when he landed on Hispaniola, the um the West Indians. So, yeah, that's pretty simple.

SPEAKER_00

Pretty simple, right? They didn't call them Indians, but we gotta go with this long story that they give us the technology, right? So the point is they can print up as many dollars as they want. What we really want back is our land, our culture, our knowledge itself, not just of history lessons, our knowledge of self, you know, what trees we we belong to, you know, I mean, what areas we belong in, you know what I mean? Uh, how to cultivate the earth, you know, uh, how to provide ourselves food, clothing, and shelter. Not to be given food, clothing, shelter in the welfare state. Give us food, give us clothing, give us shelter. No, how to grow your own food, how to create your own clothing for yourself, and how to provide your own shelter. This is what we need in these days and times because this is what we lack in these days and times.

SPEAKER_01

It's showing, it is showing.

SPEAKER_00

And now that I'm in this space and I've been here long enough to have an opinion, I can say that a lot of people in the black conscious space, even them, will use religion like a drug to escape those responsibilities. Talk about it. They may even say things like, Well, why is all that matter? You know, the devil's coming, or whoop the whoop's coming, or it's the ending anyway. No, the same brain power you're using to argue about your cult or religion all day, is the same brain power the person up the street is using to grow a tree, or you know, work up a problem to solve how to get some more money, or how to maintain uh a new invention that will help us self-sustain more. A lot of our sexual energy, uh hustle energy, uh focus energy needs to go into how we're gonna be able to learn to self-sustain ourselves and teach that to our children because they're gonna have to self-sustain.

SPEAKER_01

It looks like exactly, exactly what's going on in America right now. Now, I respect that, I respect that. Something more tangible, productive, something concrete, not a bunch of um theology and theory.

SPEAKER_00

Now, I wrote the blue Bible because you do have to break out of that psychosis first and foremost. So that's why it's dealing with hip-hop, gangs, religion, those are all our religion. These are the things that got us stupefied, right? But even when you come out of that, it's now what? How did we get to this point, right? So that was the Indian Wars. This is the documentation of what happened to us right here, right now, how we got to this point. But that's right. All that being said, I'm not here to you know plug the book all night and read the whole book. What we're gonna do is we're gonna actually visit something out of the book to show you how this thing works. So chapter seven is called the Black Indian Wars. I can tap in with me, I'll leave the info with you. Chapter seven is called Black or Indian Identity, right? And this is important because there's a there's a woman who was called the richest black girl in America, but because of the Indian identity, a lot of us kind of know, kind of don't know. She falls right into these cracks that we usually slip through with the black or Indian identity. It's when our people were forced across the Trail of Tears to Oklahoma from Georgia. A lot of us don't remember this or even credit it, or some say, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I know about that, but don't look too deeply into it because they just kind of half believe it. And we don't understand that the reason why we have so many ancestors in the southeast area of North America is because not only do I break down the book that used to be an ancient Mayan site.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, but also uh when you're dealing with the Geechee and the Seminoles and those that fought back, these were the headquarters, not just because of the ancient Mayan and all of that, that did play a part into as far as morale and technology and language and science, but also because the Spanish and the French were down in those areas. And they ran differently than the English, right? So you can go to the two, so these weren't ignorant men. They they spoke French, they spoke Spanish, they spoke Creole basically. You know what I mean? They understood how to use weapons, they understood how to work the geography. Yeah, so once we start to embrace that and understand that we traveled back and forth, we had technology, we understood different languages. These stories don't make sense because you still got this vision in your head from the movie of the mm-hmm, yes, master. Let me kiss your shoe.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, oh hello, hello. I got cloud. Yo, you won't for the one. I damn I hate those movies, bro. I hate those.

SPEAKER_00

So gonna put her on the screen now. Now we're ready.

SPEAKER_01

Yo, oh man, that's what happens when somebody takes control of your narrative, bro. Well, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00

So this is the reparations we need right here. Now you see this sister where it got that look, right? Mm-hmm that you know, that Indian, you know, Aboriginal, I mean, tune, you know, but she got locks. Now you know what this image reminds me of? You know how when you see like the sisters in ancient Egypt on the hieroglyphics, maybe having like a feather in their head, like it, like it's like an Indian flash, like yeah, it's like an Indian type look, but they African, right? Just saying, man. Get your copy Black Indian Wars. Let's go, let's go. I can I move this other okay.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you got control.

SPEAKER_00

So trail of tears. Right now, before I get into breaking it down and running my mouth, here's what here's what's here's what's funny about this picture. Even with them trying to change the phenotype as much as they can, you know, some things still get saved in the translation. So, what was funny about this is if you look close enough, they're dressed like Moors. They got like turbans and thobes, and they're trying to make it like blankets and all that, but yeah. So, and then I can show you like flags from this area at the time that looked like the Turkish flag. So there was a presence of Moors in Islam amongst these Indians here in the Americas, right? Especially these black Indians, right? And this is not me coming up with some new way to describe them. They called them black Indians, even in the paperwork. It's as the years have passed and they went deeper into this black Negro identity thing where you don't come from nowhere or nothing, you just accept I came from slaves, that's it. I don't know what happened since then. Okay. Yeah, we got further away from the truth. This is why when you talk to your grandmother and them, they say, Oh, yeah, I was Cherokee, I was this and that. My grandma's here, we have tack tall. You hear that more than you hear my mama. Because as the generations have passed, it's died down more and more. That's why this is imperative because it's it's a lot of pictures in here, too. And we deal with war, so we're dealing with actual names, dates, and you know what I mean, facts. So the trail of tears is how we went from this uh Mayan headquarters in Georgia to Oklahoma. This is important because this is how we got to Black Wall Street.

SPEAKER_01

I see it. What year was this, brother? If you could if you could date it.

SPEAKER_00

The Trail of Tears was the forced displacement and ethnic cleansing of about 60,000 Native Americans of the five civilized tribes, including their black slaves, between 1830 and 1850 by the United States government. This was leading up to the Civil War.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, okay, got you.

SPEAKER_00

Because that war they were fighting was with us.

SPEAKER_01

So so before you go any further, um Crip Jesus, I um correct me if I'm wrong, enlighten me on this. So that was before Civil War, right? Because I I took I heard of like a few Moors back then, I can't remember their name, where they um described the Confederate flag as part of their heritage. Is there any truth to that?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so you can look on uh South Carolina. Let me let me uh let me put it on the thing for you. So you can look at uh a flag. I want to show you though. You can look at flags of states that were uh Confederate, that were uh certain regimes that were under our control. They got the Christian movie star.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, really? Yeah, okay, okay. Because after because I first, you know, not knowing too much, I was like, really? They had to like, yeah, trust me, there are some indigenous so-called um indigenous tribes or blacks or Moors that had that Confederate flag, and as you mentioned, as part of their um representation of their of their tribe. I was like, oh wow, I didn't know that. I thought it was just all negative. So I'm glad.

SPEAKER_00

Well, no, so so this is when we have to get into the science of the politics and not the race. So we were taught to think Confederate automatically goes to uh whites that want slaves, and but it wasn't about that. So Confederate went to whites who wanted to be independent. Yeah, they were already bringing in slaves illegally because slavery had already been outlawed as far as bringing and shipping people in since 1808, I believe. So they were already illegally doing it. So this was about the uh the government saying, nah, we're not accepting that no more if you don't get down what we what we're saying, you know what I mean? I got you, I got you.

SPEAKER_01

Don't forget to tap that screen, people like like this live, and he's dropped some good information. Don't be stingy, share it.

SPEAKER_00

No, I'm trying to show you run up the numbers. These flags, man. Uh I got I got a thing with him and all that. Uh it's the uh it's the fan of tech. No, okay, fine of tech.

SPEAKER_01

You can make it to you, guys. I didn't want to throw you off course. I just wanted to ask that question.

SPEAKER_00

I do want to show though, because I've already found one.

SPEAKER_01

All right, cool, cool. But I never heard that trailer's here and stuff. So this all this is like, you know, some misinformation.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know, I'll get it another time, but I'll just show you this though in the meantime. Here goes this crescent right here on South Carolina. Right. Now, this is going back to like 70 and 70 when they had uh even uh when they had this the crescent moon and star, bro. Like up there, this one, yeah. That's the watered down version. That's like later on they tried to clean it up and just put the palm tree in the crescent.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00

I can show you the ones from back then where they had the crescent moon and stars. Because when you know what was going on, though, during that time, that would make that make sense. Yeah, it was a world war going on, it's called the Barbary Wars. So leading up to that time, America and different kingdoms out of Europe that were pushing the whole white nationalist concept were already going back and forth with the Moorish states. They call the Berber states in North Africa during that time, during the 1800s.

SPEAKER_04

Gotcha. Gotcha.

SPEAKER_00

Which is no coincidence that it coincides with the French and Indian Wars, which would be the Creoles in the US.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

More Berbers. You know what I mean? All those things were going on at that time. The War of 1812, which was lasted about 10, 20 years, something like that. So yeah. Now, this is showing you about these five nations. So it said the Trail of Tears was the five civilized nations getting pushed from Georgia to Oklahoma. Now people say, yeah, I mean, they weren't us, they had slaves. No, no, no. They used to buy slaves to get them out to plantations. Some had slaves, but it wasn't like that. Like, especially the seminals, they ain't enslave nobody. They would buy you to free you.

SPEAKER_01

Gotcha. Oh, wow, beautiful land message.

SPEAKER_00

This is all documented. Them were getting up the land allotments, they're migrating. This is the commission to the five civilized tribes.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, wow. Muskage land office. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Now, did the U.S. pay reparations to Native Americans? Yes. The commission, which was active until 1978, paid out$1.3 billion, according to the New York Times, which amounted to about$1,000 for each tribal member. In 1980, the Supreme Court ordered the United States to pay the Seax Nation over$105 million for their illegal government seizure of its land. So the point of me showing this is to show you that things have been going on right under our nose the whole time. Right? And it's important not just to go straight to, oh, I knew it, it's to study yourself. So I started this journey the same way as always, you know, Afrocentric, you know, more five cents, all of that. I had students, I was ready to change my name. He told me, Oh no, your name is not a slave name. Now let's go to the blue Bible page 83. So my family name is not a slave name, it is a French name passed down to us from the Geechee. All my life I was told our French name was Creole, but my grandfather explained to me that his mother was Creole, not his father.

SPEAKER_02

Right?

SPEAKER_00

His story says the Gulagie are descendants of African slaves. My story says my great-grandfather was a child of Gaul. This is the name of the original people of West Europe. The people of Gaul are children of the Egyptian princess Merit Aten, daughter of Pharaoh Akhenat. After the fall of Tut Achamon, her family sailed to Portugal. The name Portugal means port of Gaul or Port of the Gala. We are descendants of the Oromo people known as the Gala in East Africa. We named the peninsula Iberia after our greatest grandfather Iber. In the Bible, his name is spelled Iber, from which the term Arab was derived. In the Quran, he is referred to as Prophet Hood. From Portugal, we migrated north through France to Ireland and Scotland, where our culture is called Gaul, Gaelic, and Gaelic, etc. Queen Elizabeth was not Gaelic, she was German. Her true name was Fax Coburg and Gantha. So even those Europeans we see over there, if you say, Well, I see them right there, they know who they are. You don't know who they are. I'm gonna show you. Right? The Rivers family is the La River's of Normandy. We are Norman. In the far north, our pirates were called Vikings. After the Norman conquest, those of the Vikings got the horns, the braids, the dreads. After the Norman conquest of 1066, our names entered Britain in the English culture. The word Geechee is short for O Geechee River in Georgia. That is where we settled in North America. We joined the Mississippian civilization that built cities called chieftains and pyramids called mounds in North America. So this is documented, this is studied. But here's the point: what did they come and do? They came and married into that. We didn't adopt their names, they adopted our names. Because we're taught racism, we're taught to erase. What about the half white? You just assume that you was the boo-boo side, and you decide that got the name, and you decide that got great and all that. Who said, you know? Griff, mulatto, native American, Quadroon. Half black, half black, yeah. Three-quarter white. Yellow, almost white. Octoroon, one-eighth black, and rest white. Sambo, mulatto and black. Mesties, white and quadrune or octoroon. Creo, French or Spanish. Born in Louisiana. Born Louisiana. Okay, but guess what? Guess what? They didn't even have no blood test back then. So how was it deciding all of this?

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. That's why I was gonna say the science. It's a lot of lies were told, man. That's what I said it's paper genocide, man. Somebody just telling your narrative, telling you a story without you knowing, right under your noses.

SPEAKER_00

Come on, man.

SPEAKER_01

It's crazy, man.

SPEAKER_00

So, well, page 102. It says 85% of the people labeled Negro. This is the blue Bible. 85% of the people labeled Negro by the United States had land, property, and birthrights when the English arrived. Only 10% of our ancestors were African slaves. As a whole, we are collectively Creole. All of this has been lost to the racist practice of eugenics. First people labeled white, married into the nations of North America and enslaved their own children. How do we know? Look at the list. This was so funny. So when you see a mulatto and they have black and half white, they not the white person's kid?

unknown

Exactly.

SPEAKER_05

Exactly, they are.

SPEAKER_00

But we're taught races like, no, that's not their kid. They're dark skinned now. They're not, they're your kids. There's a whole collective decree, all this has been lost to race, presence, eugenics. The first people labeled white married to nation in North America and enslaved their own children. The plantations they built were sex farms, breeding grounds, where they used eugenics to create slaves. This was their way of civilizing people.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. The buck breaking and all that, yep.

SPEAKER_00

So after all of that that we seem to memorize so good, Egypt thousands of years ago, buck breaking two, four hundred years ago. Why we don't remember yesterday? Because Sarah Rector was born in 1902. She's living proof of our legacy and heritage. She was a Creek Indian recognized by the United States of America and awarded handsomely. Wow. Sarah Rector 1902, near the all-black town of Taft, located in the eastern portion of Oklahoma in what was then Indian territory. She had five siblings. Rector's parents, Rose McQueen and her husband Joseph Rector, both born in 1881, were the black grandchildren of Creek Indians before the Civil War and were descendants of the Muscogee Creek Nation after the Treaty of 1866. As such, they and their descendants were listed as freedmen on the Dallas Rose by which they were entitled to land allotment under the Treaty of 1866 made by the United States with the five civilized tribes. Wow. Because think about it, right? The way we're taught about this blanket racism and slavery, how could there the way we're taught the government would just be saying we don't care? Ain't no nigga getting no money. That's the narrative they want us to believe in.

SPEAKER_01

What I'm trying to tell you is let's go into page uh I believe that that is the 11-year-old million.

SPEAKER_00

That's her for sure. Okay, so look. I said it appears the name Prince Hall is used to hide the true history of this is page 59 of the Blue Bible. It appears the name Prince Hall is used to hide the true history of Freemasonry. While Benjamin Banneker led the Freemasons of North America, a Nigerian named Angelo Solomon had become the father of Masonic thought in Europe. According to his story, these men were slaves all born during slavery time. That's the point of me pointing her out. She can't exist, right? Because we're supposed to be slaves during that time or, you know, highly oppressed in 1902. Wasn't no 11-year-old black millionaire Indian. The hell out of here. According to his story, these men were slaves born during slavery time. According to my story, there has never been a slavery time. There was never a period in time when all black people were slaves or subject to the rule of all white people. That is the fantasy of the secret society known as the KKK.

SPEAKER_01

Talk about it.

SPEAKER_00

That was one of the first big movies in this nation, uh, Birth of a Nation.

SPEAKER_01

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

So they've been on this racist propaganda thing since the beginning of Hollywood. That's their whole niche.

SPEAKER_01

That's a fact, brother. I remember that. The black and white film, yes, birth of a nation.

SPEAKER_00

So it ain't no exaggeration when I say they go out their way to make these Indian and cowboy movies. They go out their way to erase this uh from our head or rewrite it in our heads since they can't erase this in our DNA. Black Creek site. This property is listed on the New Jersey and National Registers of Historic Places.

SPEAKER_01

New Jersey.

SPEAKER_00

New Jersey. Yeah. Because from down from Jersey, all you gotta do is go south, and you can end up in Georgia, right? Virginia, all of that, right? And then from there, when you get pushed west, you can end up in Oklahoma. Now, I said the creeks are part of the 17 million taught in the 5% nation. Because remember, it says, what is the population of the original nation in the wilderness of North America all over the planet Earth? It says the population of the original nation in wilderness of North America is 17 million. With the 2 million Indians, makes it 19 million. All over the planet Earth is 4 billion, 400 million. The 2 million that Elijah Muhammad taught about, he didn't leave us in mystery. If you go to the understanding degree, the one through 14, he says Christopher Columbus found here the Indians, they were exiled from India 16,000 years ago. Right? That's the originals that came through Siberia in the Baron Strait. I think those are called plain field Indians. But there's still knowledge of the melanated dark original people who were here already, incited, and negotiated with and warred against and all that. And they're part of the 17 million who include people not only just from here but from all over the world because they're the original people, the tribe of Shabbaz and all four corners of the earth.

SPEAKER_05

Talk about it. Talk about it.

SPEAKER_00

Sarah's father, Joseph, was the son of John Rector, a Creek freedman. John Rector's father, Benjamin McQueen, was enslaved by Riley Grayson, who was a Creek Indian. Now you know why people can't understand what that's saying? Because they hear slave, slave. It's a damn word, man. That word is really a race of a people, the Slavics. But we can get that copy of the Black Indian Wars, Blue Bible, break that down. So the point is, these people who supposedly enslaved them actually got them out of slavery. Yeah, when they would go down to Florida to get free with the Seminoles, they'll cash out for him. Okay, you're with me now.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00

You know what I'm saying? So even if a whitey dude come and try to, you know, put a pressure down on you. I must know he's mine. And we did this with each other a lot of times. Even when you had those of us that were free, they'd go back and buy their family members. So Sarah's father, Joseph, was the son of John Rector, a Creek freedman. So he was born free. John Rector's father, though, Benjamin McQueen, was enslaved by Riley Grayson, who was a Creek Indian. You know how I know what really went down there? Because that last name, McQueen, is very famous. Now let's go to the Black Indian Wars.

SPEAKER_01

Talk about it. This is opening my eyes to many things down in Florida. I heard about the wars and seminal wars down in Florida and everything. That's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah, prisoners of war is exactly.

SPEAKER_00

No. Okay, so he's like, he's like the biggest op. Like he was like the big general of the Indians because he went beyond just leading against the white man with his tribe. He tried to lead a pan-Indian movement across the whole Americas to stop them from spreading to the West too far. He's the one the British was working with. Remember, the British tried to stop the U.S. from spreading too far west. That's how they got into it. Because the British was ran by us too. It was a Moorish agreement to not let them come beyond them 13 colonies. We let them have that because we put them there. They was our servants. But when they decided to try to push far past that, and we knew it, that's what the war, that's what the uh French and Indian War of 1812 was about. So let's uh let's go back. Page 24. It says after 60 years of fighting for control of the Great Lakes, the chief and his brother, Prophet Tinsquatawa, created a pan-Indian Confederacy from north to south to prevent the U.S. from expanding. They taught their followers to reject all that whites had introduced to America from their liquor to their flower bread and their Christianity. They would even burn down their own houses. That's how they would know if the other creeps was with them or not. They'd be like, man, you gotta burn down your house. You can't live like them no more. Can't wear pans dressing like them no more, nothing. Don't eat no flower bread. They were serious. Oh wow. So even though brother Tensquat Tawa was the visionary, Tecumseh was the face and the recruiter and all that. So check this out. Page 26. Tecumseh visited the South to campaign and gained many followers amongst the Creeks. Both Peter McQueen and Josiah Francis were initiated into prophethood, becoming leaders of the Red Stick Creeks. The traditional Creeks continued to practice the ways of the whites, Christianity, slavery, etc., until a civil war broke out. The Creeks and their U.S. allies were murdered by the Red Sticks in the battles of Burnt Corn and Fort Milns. This infuriated General Andrew Jackson. He gathered all of his followers and his soldiers and Indian allies for revenge at the Battle of Horseshoe Bend. On August 9, 1814, he forced the Red Sticks to sign the Treaty of Fort Jackson and migrate south into Florida. Wow. Wow. What was the point of me reading that about Peter McQueen? So they Peter McQueen was the leader of the Red Sticks. They was the ones that was burning down the houses, saying we're not practicing Christianity, we're not even dressing like y'all no more.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So what I'm saying is they were considered illegal by the country. So they had to be owned by somebody. Wow. You know what I'm saying? So when they go to the seminars, they like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Riley or take you. You feel what I'm saying? But it was, they wasn't living like shut up, bow down, watch. What it was was a it was a legal thing. So then uh he married a woman named Molly, so she became Molly McQueen. She was Muscogee, and she was, well, they creek anyway. She was with this, uh, the she was with the actual chief. So these were elite. You know what I mean? Uh old Leahola. Oh, Pathalahola. Of Lahola, okay. Who fought in the Seminole Wars and split with the tribe, moving his followers to Kansas. Sarah Rector was allotted 159.14 acres. This was a mandatory step in the process of integration of the Indian Territory with Oklahoma Territory to form what is now the state of Oklahoma. And now you see why they did, they burnt down Black Wall Street.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so with that being said, right, with with the you with the with the government allowing or awarding these people these acres of land and and finances, did that create like that somehow became a diversion that created some that that became a diversion amongst the blacks and Indians, right? That created wars amongst them, some tension, right?

SPEAKER_00

Well, at this point, the blacks and the Indians are the same people still.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, still the same people, but I mean like aesthetically division is that new.

SPEAKER_00

At this point in time, there were light-skinned groups, there were dark-skinned groups, you know what I mean? But yeah, when when the dark-skinned groups got pushed all the way out, it's this era. You know what I mean? In the 1800s, during the civil wars and all that, when the racial thing became a big divide.

SPEAKER_01

I'm glad you clarified that. Because I was like, aesthetically, like we know we're the same people, but later on, like according to the public perception, probably see, like, you know what, this group is getting.

SPEAKER_00

Well, no, this is how sick it is. This is when the this is even when the movie started.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00

They even started bringing people out here to claim, like, like, you know, these races sometimes are LLCs. So it's be like, you know, we'll send you out here, you say that you're this, you recruit people, you even get as many people as you can to join with you. She even gets a couple blacks, effic. But we're using this to stop them from ever claiming what they really are, the owners of this land.

SPEAKER_01

I got it. I got it, I got it. Wow, that's cost crazy. Oh, that's wild what they did, bro.

SPEAKER_00

So, no, this Muskogee Indian territory. So, can you make me big on the screen real quick? I want them to see me say this part.

SPEAKER_01

All right, gotcha. I got you right now, gone. Boom.

SPEAKER_00

There we go. Get your copy.

SPEAKER_01

Black Indian Wars. Black Indian Wars. I'm gonna get me a copy.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, page 54. What tribe was Sarah Rector? This is what we were just looking at. She was of the Creek, Muskogee Freedman, born in Oklahoma. The Creeks were one of the first civilized tribes to adapt chattel slavery. Their nation had a large population of the so called Negroes during the Trail of Tears when they were forced from other parts of the lands to Indian territory from 1830 to 1870. The Emancipation Proclamation. Was signed 1863, but slavery continued until the Freedmen Bureau was created on March 3rd, 1865. Oh wow. So everything matches us with the times and dates of these Indies. Why is her story important? So-called black people in America are taught to believe that the history of slavery means they have no land, property, or wealth to inherit or search for within their own community. The reality is the freedmen became some of the wealthiest people in American history after being given back any land. From 1866 to 1920, over 50 all black towns were created in Oklahoma. Oil discovered on Sarah's land and others became headline news. While she was the world's richest Negress at 11 years old, other Negro children in Indian territory were being murdered and stolen from. Due to the racist laws of the times, the Sarah the Rector family was assigned a white guardian to manage Sarah's money.

SPEAKER_01

Damn, bro. Damn, man. Distraction.

unknown

Oh God.

SPEAKER_01

You want me to enlarge this for here?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That's crazy, bro.

SPEAKER_00

So the creek land sessions. You see right here, this is this is that's the land they gave up. During the wars with Andrew Jackson.

SPEAKER_01

1923.

SPEAKER_00

So let me keep going.

SPEAKER_05

Propaganda, bro.

SPEAKER_01

Yo, how many years did it take to do this research for this book, bro? Because he's got like a lot of in-depth information.

SPEAKER_00

It's like all that this is dealing with this put it like this. As far as organizing it like this, started when I found out it was Gulla Geechee. So with it being me, it's like a different, whole different passion. So I would say that's about five years ago. I had a lot of information before I found that out, though, too. You get what I'm saying? So page 56. How did the freedmen lose their land in Oklahoma? During the Civil War, the Indian territory was divided between those who joined Albert Pike's Confederacies and those who defended the Union. During the Civil War, they started dividing between those who wanted to roll with the Union and those who wanted to roll with the Confederacy. That's crazy. So Chief Opoteleyahola led the resistance to the Confederacies in the Trail of Blood and Ice. His followers died en route to Kansas. The survivors joined the first Indian Home Guard. It was due to these Union Indians that they were able to retain any of their lands after the war. Eventually, the Indians formed their own government called the State of Sequoia in 1905. They sent delegates to Congress for statehood but were denied. Instead, the Oklahoma Enabling Act was used to make their land the 47th state. In 1920, Sarah Rector was finally emancipated from her white guardian and escaped to Kansas City. Her hometown, Taft, was 50 miles from Tulsa, Black Wall Street. A year after she left white mobs bombed the city in the Tulsa massacre. The scattered members of the tribes now recorded on the Dallas Rose Found asylum in the Freedmen towns all throughout the Americas. They became famous for their rodeos and cowboys.

SPEAKER_05

Wow. Powerful right there, bro.

SPEAKER_01

So we got this right here. One brother said uh money cryptocurrency, 1024, peace, another thing, brothers. Elijah was right about the place he discovered for white was North America. The Caribbean is not Central America, the continent. It's North America, Turtle Island.

SPEAKER_00

Elijah was right about the place he discovered for white was North America. But uh removal of the creeks. When Congress passed the Indian Removal Bill in 1830, it sent a message to the commercial interests in the country that one of the most cherished doctrines of the American Revolution, that all men created equal, was no longer applicable to the native people of the U.S. The way was cleared for Western expansion of the nation. Thereafter, Indian removal, including the Creeks and thousands of other southern Indians, was only a master of time. By 1840, the loan process largely had begun, completed, allowing cotton and slavery to become increasingly fixed on the creeks, ancestral homeland. Removal of the creeks. That's crazy. The creek trelleteers. The bravery of the enslaved blacks who led the massive 1842 slave revolt in the Cherokee Nation. They began their revolt by locking their Cherokee owners in their homes while they slept. They then stole their guns, horses, food, and ammunition, and escaped toward Mexico. As the group, which included men, women, and children made their way southwest from the Cherokee Nation, they were joined by 10 escaped slaves from plantations in the Creek Nation. The fugitives, now numbering about 35, would fight off and kill some slave hunters in the Choctaw Nation while continuing their journey to Mexico.

SPEAKER_01

That's crazy, man. Oh man. Yeah. Say it again, guy. See, that's wild. Like, you know, reading this and hearing it, it's like I'm only imagining what people have gone through back then. Like it's crazy. Like constant world.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so let's get into the American Revolution. So, you know, dude say this country and the white man. I get it. It's nothing wrong with you know studying or introducing a topic like that to a youngin'. But at some point, you can call a dude bluff when they just keep using color coding after a while. You gotta know who did what. So when the US broke away from the British, you know, the first dude they killed, he was a brother. The first British dude that got attacked. Defend the soldiers in the subsequent trial, John Adams painted addicts and the rest of those killed as aggressors to justify the killing. He played through series prejudices about race and class, describing those in the crowd as a motley rabble of saucy boys, negroes, and mulattos, Irish teas, and outlandish jack tars.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, look, I believe I heard about addicts before. Wasn't he depicted in the painting next to Washington with a fezzle on his head? Or a turban?

SPEAKER_00

I don't know if that was him or not. Because I don't know if they're contemporary like that. But here we go right here.

SPEAKER_01

Let me see. I may have to remove one and put one up. Give me a second. Uh boom. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

See it? Yeah, I see it. That's the American Revolution kicking off. See, really, with us being, if you look at it from a Morris perspective, with us being British and them being in serving status at that time, they were they were rebelling. Feel me? That's why it was a revolution.

SPEAKER_02

I got you.

SPEAKER_00

So you know, I teach in the Blue Bible that the American Revolution and the French Revolution were both orchestrated to challenge the Moorish rulers.

SPEAKER_05

Definitely.

SPEAKER_00

You feel what I'm saying? Because for the French, they had the Louis families.

SPEAKER_02

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so uh, hold on.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Christmas Addicts was an American whaler, sailor, and stevedore of African and Native American descent, who is traditionally regarded as the first person killed in the Boston Massacre, and as a result, the first American killed in the American Revolution.

SPEAKER_01

Country built built in the blood of our people, more than just slavery. It's everything. People blood for this land. Got you. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_00

With Crispy's addicts, it just proves more of the identity crisis, right? Let me get back to this.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00

So in 1892, the union created the Dolls Rose, a census of who they recognized as Indian and eligible for land allotments. Eventually, the Indians formed their own government called the State of Sequoia in 1905. They sent delegates to Congress for statehood but were denied. Instead, the Oklahoma Enabling Act was used to make the 47th state. You don't never hear about none of this.

SPEAKER_01

No.

SPEAKER_00

Even with the religious dudes that I know all of that, and we don't need to, you don't hear about that. And this is not hidden information. This is just more of like I travel to with the blue Bible. Like this is more of like kind of like the untampered with. You get what I'm saying? Because after the trail of tears, it's all like receipts. After the trail of tears, a lot of us, a lot of us relocate over there. From there, a lot of us went to Mexico as well. That's where they got the uh Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I heard about the black tribe over there.

SPEAKER_00

Los Nisimientos.

SPEAKER_01

Got you. That's powerful. And I noticed that in the West too. There are a lot of mixtures of Mexicans and so-called blacks together as well. Am I correct on that?

SPEAKER_00

Like Smiento.

SPEAKER_01

The Snoop Dogg-looking cats.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, see, that's another thing. So that's that goes with the Louisiana Creole look, up and down the Mississippi River. A lot of those are like original Americans, the Mississippian civilization, up and down the Mississippi River. Because look, I even though I pop all this, and I might have some of that blood in me further down, but my name and all that, I it come from Louisiana. They don't come from the West. My name and the Gullah Geechee, you know, they come from Louisiana. You know what I mean? So they're leading back to the Carolinas and all that. You know what I mean? Maybe I got two parents, so maybe my mama's side, I got some of it, but it's a lot of us over here that that know what we go back to in the South. We just don't know the science of what is really down there in these names to understand it. Okay, for example, I just met a sister not too long ago talking about I'm French in Whoop De Whoop. I'm like, what you mean? But with your daddy French or your mama French? She's like, No, I look myself up. So she's talking about French in her blood. I'm telling her sister, you don't know about Creole?

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Likely you you you probably got some Creole in you more than just you actually being from the place of France. I'm saying that that's far fancy. Like I said, my name's for France.

SPEAKER_01

Oh maybe you're probably a cousin of mine.

SPEAKER_00

You know what I'm saying? Put that on the screen.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, that's dope right there.

SPEAKER_00

Tell me what you see, man. This is this is before I tell you what it is, tell me what you see.

SPEAKER_01

It's like a bunch of Frenchmen or Englishmen, red coats, and um guy, the guy he has a is that a dog with him or something? He enlarged that.

SPEAKER_00

Uh no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01

All right, it's just like he that's probably like his legs or something.

SPEAKER_00

Look, it just looks in the drawing like a black. One side looks black, black, black.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

The other side looks white and dressed up, right? That's a painting from the French and Indian Wars.

SPEAKER_01

That's five figures, man. It was like it looks like 1804 out in the 80s right now, the way it looks.

SPEAKER_00

When you look at the cover of my book, The Black Indian Wars, you see they they black as day, and they even got the red flag. Matter of fact, we we we should come back to do another one.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we definitely wrong.

SPEAKER_00

I got the Yamassi War, the red flag. So in this one, this being the first one, you know, because we've been trying to figure out how we get here. So I dealt more with the defeat, you know, the trail of tears.

SPEAKER_01

No, we gotta have a part two of it. Definitely.

SPEAKER_00

It matches geographically, and it matches the years and all of that. So it's no coincidence that right to the trail of tears, we end up in Oklahoma with Black Wall Street, Sarah Rector, and oh my bad. Let me keep going. So we want to know what happened, right? Definitely.

SPEAKER_01

So we gotta come back.

SPEAKER_00

So okay, hold on, hold on. Uh the reality is the free men became some of the wealthiest people in American history after being given back any land from 1866 to 1920. Over 50 all black towns were created in Oklahoma. Oil discovery on Sarah's land and others became headline news while she was while she was the world's richest Negress at 11 years old. Other Negro children in Indian territory were being murdered and stolen from. Which were racist laws of the time, the rector family was assigned a white guardian to manage Sarah's money. Right?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

This is the end of the road. Think about it. We're taught history backwards. We're taught to believe that we came from nothing, slaves doing nothing, and Obama's the highest we go. This book, this, this, this speech, it's all cool. This is all just a medium for me to reach y'all. What I am is living proof that that's a lie. I'm gonna get you. So that means that it had to be a bunch of wars and shit for me to even exist. They considered my tribe extinct because we was we was, you know what I mean, burning plantations down, chipping the uh the owners and all of that for the whole time before the country even started back in 1734 when the British first got here. I'm living proof of sophistication, knowledge, wisdom, understanding, weaponry, and no backing down and bravery the whole time. You feel me? So the whole point of this episode was just to break down, you know. I mean, there is a time frame here. It's not just about looking at pictures saying, they look dark, or my grandma said the Indian. There's a time frame here. There's no coincidence why all these people are in Oklahoma being attacked and being the richest in the country right after the Yellow Tears.

SPEAKER_01

That makes sense. Um and I'm glad you dated that for us. You you elaborate on that with some clarity because now I'm putting the pieces together in my mind, yo. Yo, Crip Jesus, you're doing a great job out there with this book, man. Don't forget, man, people to go out there and get the blue Bible.

SPEAKER_00

Make the screen big.

SPEAKER_01

I got you. I got you.

SPEAKER_00

Everybody know about the blue Bible, but tap in the Black Indian Wars. I want to read this part. This is this is the answer right here. So in 1920, because now we put a year on it. Now we're in 1920. It's around the time when No Madrid leading them all aside. It's hard for us to envision that. So, yeah, the same. Marcus Gargay, this was going on during that time. That's why you gotta be careful with narrative, because the way that they do it, we ain't got nothing. Yeah, but it's more than that going on, right? 1920, Sarah Rector was finally emancipated from her white guardian and escaped to Kansas City. Her hometown, Taft, was 50 miles, only 50 miles where she grew up, from Tulsa, Black Wall Street. A year after she left, white mobs bombed the city in the Tulsa massacre. The scattered members of the tribes not recorded on the Dallas Roads found asylum in freedmen towns all throughout the Americas. They became famous for their rodeos and cowboys. So after the Tosa massacre, that was just one piece of it. The white mobs came and started destroying our land in Oklahoma. We were sent to there. That's how we ended up in all these different Freedmen towns. When we were in those Freedman towns, that was like the so-called gang type era. Like, you know, it's hard to believe, but even LA was one of them where it was like highly densely populated black areas. The era we're living in now is where they broke that up. Now it's highly densely populated black chat rooms.

SPEAKER_01

Gotcha, bro.

SPEAKER_00

Back together.

SPEAKER_01

Yo, crypto Jesus, brother. Profound, man. Very, very detailed information, very profound information. Things I didn't know, like things they don't teach in history, like in schools. Like, you know, that's why I was saying it's paper genocide, paper terrorism. And you know, the blue Bible, because I'm still reading it too. I got quite a few books I'm going through. The blue Bible itself, it opens up that door for you because you start, you know, it makes you want to dig further. And now with the second book that you got, the Black Indian Wars, yeah. I'll say like this the Blue Bible is the Blue Bible, and that Black Indian War book is the Blue Apocrypha. I'll put it like that.

SPEAKER_00

No, sure, because no, I think that's exactly right. Because the Blue Bible dealing with like what we already know, like you said, so it's because it's the Bible. It's like, okay, yeah, yeah, okay. Oh, Korean blood, okay, yeah, oh, Africa, Egypt, okay, oh wow, okay, yeah. Maybe a different perspective or whatever, but this is what doesn't get talked about. This is where it's like, I think I heard a creek of Cherokee, and you know what I mean. This is where it's like, damn, I ain't, you know what I mean? Because, and like I said, for me, this is not this is a book I'm very proud of, but this is not a book I wrote that have anything to do with me being smart. This is a book that has to do with my grandpa telling me something before he died that opened the door that just ain't shut yet. Like it just keeps going and going. And as long as I keep it down to earth, the moment I get into the the hopping tribe flooding with the aliens and all that, then it goes all over the place. Which they got a lot of that too, though. The Western mythology, a lot of deep, it goes deep, deep, deep. But as far as the wars, because they're so on point and they're so yesterday, it's scary. You get to hear these numbers 1902 and 18, you're like, oh the nigga 1550.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, exactly. I didn't know it was the new. Yeah, I didn't know it was it was that close. Like, that's crazy. Before we check up out of here, right? We got this brother one likes to ask this question. He said, Peace, King. Did you ever hear did you ever heard about hear about the goose group the goose creek men? Pardon me.

SPEAKER_00

Goose creek men?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I ain't never On that, but I'm reading something right now, though. The Goose Creek men were a powerful faction of English barbarian planters who settled near Goose Creek, South Carolina in the 1670s, becoming influential leaders in the country. Oh, hold on. Shout out to him. I'm about to get on this right now.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, definitely. There's a lot we gotta learn about. Because, you know, we hear a little bit about the Seneca village, you know, other little villages like, you know, in New York with what's known as Central Park and other stuff like that about our people, parts of like north um upstate New York going to Canada. You hear about those tribes up there, and you know, some are federally recognized, some are not. And I'm like, yo, why don't they really push this information out there? All they just doing is showing that one.

SPEAKER_00

It makes you more found. I got I if you tell me I'm Creek, I can go talk to the Creek now. I don't gotta just come to you. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly, definitely. Well, people listen, go back, watch this video again, go out there, purchase that blue Bible from Crip Jesus, purchase that black Indian war book from Crip Jesus. Don't forget to comment, like, share, and subscribe. And we're gonna have another, we gotta have a part two about this. We gotta go deeper into this.

SPEAKER_00

I'm gonna give you my uh my website, my number, you just put it in the description. They can tap directly in. It's all good. Like definitely. I'm trying to tell people it isn't even about just like if you like it or not. This is about our baby and our families have this information. They're gonna scrub this information off the digital internet and they gonna exist no more because we're not making books.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. Exactly, exactly. Trying to find a way to get that up there for you. Hold on.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I mean, even if you gotta do it after, I'm just sending the info and it's all good.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, definitely. We'll do that, man. We got we gotta put we're gonna post it up on our page. People go out there, get the blue Bible, get the black Indian war book from Crip Jesus. Don't forget to comment, like, share, subscribe. Check out the super chats, check out the website, keep supporting us. We appreciate you all y'all that tuned in tonight. We appreciate Crip Jesus for coming on and giving us a powerful presentation and a lot of information.

SPEAKER_00

And with that being said, my information is not for us to just argue about being Indian, it's to return us back to make us realize we don't gotta travel to the middle of nowhere or get lost in the sauce to travel back in time. Right here in the Americas, it's so much empty land waiting for us to cultivate and get back in tune with the earth. This for our grandbabies, grandbaby, grandbabies, because they are not gonna teach us. We we was just saying yesterday, my grandma Jericho, we done forgot that shit already.

SPEAKER_01

Nah nah nah nah because yeah, I see I do yo, brother. I see it online. A lot of people, it's like, I don't know, they're trying to weaponize DNA or or culture of who's uh native and who's black, and this and that. I'm like, yo, yeah, I need to get out of that, get out of that box and do your research.

SPEAKER_00

That's what I break down in here too. I got a chapter on that where it says uh African or Mayan. You know what I'm saying? I talk about the different ships that went back and forth and how even when you bring Islam into it, with the Arabs, with okay, yeah. We always talk about how the Africans inherited Islam. What did the Arabs inherit in Africa when they came and turned them the Berber area out? They inherited the maritime culture of the Carthaginians. Yes, that maritime culture of ships going back and forth across the Atlantic and all of that had been going on long before they had Islam over there. That's how the Arabs got exposed to it. That's how you get into, I ain't gonna give y'all too much, get the book, but uh Al-Sharif Al-Idrizi had maps and all of that. Like, but that's the good thing in this book. I got the name of the maps, I got the name of the trees, I got the name of the location. This ain't no, you know, what I think or feel. This ain't that.

SPEAKER_01

Definitely, God. That being said, we out. NYP peace. We out.