The truth about Rastafari in America

A movement is more than a symbol. We sit down with Ross Daniel to unpack how Rastafari in America grew from lived ethics, disciplined study, and Ethiopian sovereignty into a blueprint for self‑determination. From Savannah projects and capoeira circles to elders on indigenous mounds, Ross maps a journey that reframes “one love” as a practice: clean living, natural alignment, and community duty backed by law and history.

Together we trace the long arc from the 1896 victory at Adwa to Ras Tafari’s coronation as Haile Selassie I, and the ripple effects across Harlem, Savannah, and Jamaica. You’ll hear about forgotten bridges—Abyssinian Baptist Church, an Ethiopian church in Savannah, Black Jews of Harlem—and the quiet power of treaties, flags, and diplomatic missions that signaled a way around Jim Crow. Ross highlights how Selassie’s politics—visiting mosques and temples, supporting Black colleges, convening nations for decolonization—turned faith into policy and policy into protection.

This is Rastafari without the haze: sovereignty over licenses, elders over algorithms, study over slogans. We talk practical entry points—words and works—while honoring figures like Nathaniel Huggins and Rabbi Arnold Ford who stitched Ethiopia into Black American life. We also explore porous borders with Hebrew Israelites and Christians, showing how unity thrives when ethics lead. If you’ve ever wondered how a “Star King,” a raised flag, and a line from Revelation could change a neighborhood’s sense of power, this conversation connects the dots.

Listen, share with a friend who loves history and movement-building, and tell us your biggest takeaway. If this expanded your view of Rastafari and Black sovereignty, subscribe and leave a review—your voice helps more listeners find the stories that rewrite what’s possible.

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:10

Peace, peace, peace, world. How you doing? It's your brother Mikey Fever. Welcome back to another episode of NYP talk show. It's been a while. Miss you all. Hope all is well. Peace and blessings to all. Wow, tonight's gonna be a great show. We're about to learn a lot about the Rostin Farian movement in America. And we have a special guest tonight, our brother Ross Daniel. Take it away, brother.

Honoring Ancestors And Ethiopia’s Role

SPEAKER_01 0:35

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. We'll give thanks, my brother. Yes, sir. Great for to be here. Yes, sir. Great for, you know, spread the love, spread the info, and just, you know, be be used as a vehicle tonight to kind of you know bridge, bridge some gaps, I think, has been needed amongst us, you know, because culture's lost. So I want to give thanks for our ancestors, all the ones in all our bloodlines, you know what I mean? That you know, paved the way for us to be here, you know, Ethiopians specifically on this night, which is a huge influence to talking about Rastafarianism and just the fighting, fighting for colored people, fighting for against colonialism, fighting just for sovereignty. And all the ones willing to fight here, you know, because we were we we knew that we was one at one point. We was ready to go. We was ready to get up and and and go join the fight. They had to they had to create laws to stop us, actually. You know what I'm saying? We're putting money together, you know what I mean. Malcolm X father got killed talking about Ethiopia.

SPEAKER_02 1:34

Look it up.

SPEAKER_01 1:34

They just showed it on the plaque, they just say his father was still, you know, killed. But go look up what he was doing, you know what I'm saying? Up in Detroit, you know, he was leading the cause, getting money for Ethiopia, putting things together for Ethiopia. You know what I mean? So Martin Luther King father down in Georgia, working, same causes. So, you know, give thanks for all the ones and ones that was willing to fight here, all the all the ones that already knew the unity, you know, before we had to speak on it. And just for all my Ross elders, you know, all the Rasta elders in general, but even my Rasta elders in my life, you know, Minister of Ross Lazarus, uh Chapman Umbi Zion, you know, uh Nagus Kamar, all my brethren, Raz ISIS and Congo Isis in Atlanta. You know, just a lot of the lot of the veterans that, you know, fuel me and give me the knowledge because it's some stuff I could share possibly tonight here that I got veterans that was researching in the early 2000s and archived through newspapers and found it on accident. You know, like travel four hours to Texas, they look in their newspaper room and and stumble across some information in 2004. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 2:39

Definitely, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 2:40

Some of the stuff, some of this stuff is real, you know what I mean, and it's it's like that because they they they don't want us to know. You know, if they made me hate you, it made me hate people at the end of the day. We worry about fighting each other. We're not even fighting the fight. So that's the that's the fact.

SPEAKER_04 2:56

That colonialism is finest. So, brother, brother Ross, Daniel, wait, what um if you give a little background to the people who like to introduce you to our platform. Thank you again for coming on the show. Give us a little brief description, brother. Where are you from? Give us a little a quick two, three-minute rundown.

Guest Background And Early Influences

SPEAKER_01 3:10

Yes, uh, well, you know, I was I was born in Fort Lauderdale. You know, I kind of came up in South Florida. My my my mom, my dad's side is in Fort Lauderdale, my side is in like Delray Beach, kind of that area. So that was kind of my early roots, and then um after my little brother passed when I was like six, and then we moved up to Savannah. And my dad's real homeland where he grew up at, because his father's really from Florida. And then uh just back and forth from Savannah and South Florida was kind of my roots, you know. And um, you know, after my father, my mother had some hardship, you know, my mother kind of found a place in Savannah, and we kind of grew up in like like Savannah for real. So, like, you know, Savannah people sometimes used to still call me Florida. Florida always called me Savannah. You feel me? So that's really what I stuck, yeah. You know, I grew up doing capoeira, just little stuff that just was regular because it was right there by the projects. My auntie come get us, take us to the AME church. We in the choir, you know, performing capo wera, singing, been a bow, down at the river, you know. So this kind of some of my early roots, just kind of just being kind of mixed culture and being from South Florida and just kind of having different things influencing me in my mind, you know, besides just the traditional school, of course, was getting on and what the projects had to offer, which of course is a lot of you know stuff that they put in our face to have us and perpetuating cycles.

SPEAKER_04 4:31

Got you, I got you. So you did Capoeira growing up. That's dope, brother. That's that Brazilian use of well, you was moving around throwing those kicks and that's peace, bro.

SPEAKER_01 4:41

I thought the music more than anything.

SPEAKER_04 4:43

Huh?

SPEAKER_01 4:43

I love the music more than anything.

Defining Rastafari Through Lived Experience

SPEAKER_04 4:45

I know it's it's the hits the heart, like it touches that African side. Nah, I like that one, brother. So, you know, being that we have you talking about Rastafari, and we we want to bring our listeners and file and um viewers up to date for those who may not understand what that is, to introduce them to what the what Rastafarian is. And um, so tell us what is Rastafastafarianism, brother?

SPEAKER_01 5:06

Well, I'm gonna say, like I said, and I want all information to be from the inf from the eyes and the mindset of a study, of a learner. Not not that I know all truth, not that I'm here to give the perfect definition, right? Because you know, that's the mysticism behind Rastafarianism, anyway. Because even me coming into Rastafarianism, my journey along, you know, uh along being Rasta, you know, has an old journey. Because like I say, growing up and me kind of with Auntie now, mom dupes, we ain't really did all that in the house. So I didn't really have like a true sense of we say Ira instead of spirit. I didn't have a true irrital foundation, you know, until I was 18. And bro, I like God talked to me in my head. You feel me? I got my first job. I'm trying to clean up my life in the streets a little bit, and I hear voice that was they was telling me about the dishes and all this. And once they left me there, it was a dishwasher job at this old, it was a soul food restaurant, Sisters of the New South. And and and he started telling me what dishes to wash first. The big ones is your big problems, the little ones is your little problems. And I thought I was tripping. I kept going to the bathroom looking at myself in the eyes, like, what's going on?

SPEAKER_03 6:13

And every time I something would happen.

SPEAKER_01 6:16

Dishes fall, I drop oil all over the floor. It's like, look, this real. So, you know, and that different experiences, but I just say that to say, you know, I gotta, I gotta, I know what God is. So a lot of people, when it comes to understanding Rastafarianism, we look at it as the Bible was God, and then God stopped. And it's just like God didn't stop. You know what I'm saying? And sometimes I think that's the essence of is like the breaking those type of mindsets sometimes to really understand what Rastafarianism is. Um so you know, it's Rastafarianism to me. I seen something recently, it's like it made me really understand how it came into my heart so much because Rastafarianism represents all religions, truthfully. There's an aspect of it that represents all that's why one love is like the key statement. You understand? So it's it's it's the mysticism behind it's like you eating good, you you live right, you live in righteous, you know what I'm saying? You natural man, you know, you you understand in certain essences about your annexing to nature and your annexion to self. Because when you look at eggbow, when you look at these different things as part of different genetic fragments of ourselves, yeah. Understanding that nature and understanding that us is is is symbiotic through our language, through that's why they say the writing system all us is cursing us because our language is used to look like symbols which reminded us of nature. Yeah, you understand? So it's just like we don't we we have to understand that Rastafarianism is an invitation back to that, and in the structural aspect of it, where you know we amplify the most high and uh through Ketamavi Hali Selassie, people get lost in that because they get lost in understanding the most high in themselves. You see what I'm saying? So we look at ourselves as you start because I because what happened is I was Israelite, Hebrew Israelite, after I I found God for myself in my own capacity in my lower 20s. I was I was Baptist, I was AME. You see what I'm saying? And then when my pastor died when I was about 25, so my pastor with Pastor Tyson, long live pastor Tyson here in Savannah, Georgia. When he passed, he was such a powerful messenger, you know, it was it was hurtful. He was in his mid-40s and nobody knew he had Lucas. You know what I'm saying? So it was such a high-struck community, black community, so hard because he was raw. You go touch, I don't care what religion you were, you could go back to being Islam after this Sunday, but you fulfill something tonight. That was Pastor Tyson. So when he died, it was like we started, and me personally, but I think a lot of us realized that his message was it's the God in you. That it's not me, I'm just a pastor, you know. That was the key awakening. I became Hebrew Israelite after that, and then I wasn't Hebrew Israelite long, but this is how I learned a lot about um, you know, just about the bloodlineage and the lineages of the Bible and just different things, you know what I'm saying? Understanding the tribes and certain stuff, and then I went Bible list because I went bookless. Oh, look, I'm nature, I'm natural. I ain't know nothing. I'm trying to I'm colonized. You feel from the projects, I'm trying to find myself. So, you know, I'm natural. I'm like, look, I'm shedding books, I'm shedding the Bible, I'm spiritual, I'm average, you know, at a time spiritual, you know what I'm saying? I respect myself, you know, I'm from the hood, you know. I started eating mushrooms. I mean, I ain't gonna tell the truth. You feel me? I started experiencing myself spiritually, you know what I'm saying? So I went through a process, brother, and then Rastafarianism was being taught to me. I didn't even know from my elder. He was just giving me, he was to teach me by nature, you know what I'm saying? And it was like I remember one day I read because I'm from we don't deal with no bugs and being outside and all that, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 10:02

Yeah, yeah, definitely the environment.

SPEAKER_00 10:04

Yeah, my partners, you know about and it's not talking to elder, you know, Rasta man.

SPEAKER_01 10:09

I don't know Rasta yet. I didn't remember Rasta, there's never name that came to me yet. You see what I'm saying? Just know we got locks, elder brethren that my partners took me out with out there on nature. We out on the mounds, on the indigenous mounds. He's talking all this indigenous language and all this about Turtle Island and America and all this. All of a sudden, bees landing on me, and then I'm like, oh, and it's like, oh, I feel it. I get it. He said it was my first time being taught about having a download. You feel me? I'm a system, I'm a computer. What would happen was he was turning on my Wi-Fi. So I'm downloading information and I'm becoming the God that I am.

SPEAKER_00 10:45

So as this process happens and I'm going through this, I remember it was a few years later, two, three years into this, when I finally he snipped it out one time.

SPEAKER_01 10:54

I just heard Rastafari. And he, you know, I don't ask a lot of questions like that. I'm humble. I just heard something.

SPEAKER_00 11:00

I'm like, hold up, it's been a couple years, and I ain't heard a name to all these teachings yet. I've just been freelancing and hear this stuff and there, hear this stuff in there.

Elders, Study, And Self-Discovery

SPEAKER_01 11:08

And I remember when I first heard Rastafari, it was like boom, I'm going to figure that out. And then I came and presented myself with information to my elder, and then that's when the stuff started unraveling, and then your world started building itself, you know what I mean? Because it was a lot, it was like I say, I'm I'm I'm trying to search. I'm coming from a colonized mindset. You know, we start hearing about self-determination, we start hearing about sovereignty, we start hearing about status correction, you know what I'm saying? We start finding the we start going through all of this, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 11:38

Yeah, definitely. That that happens to all of us, yeah. And I cut your wisdom, but it did happen to us. But uh, I don't want to say, like, you know, as they put it, like those outside of more sign, simple teaching that sovereignty, land patents, and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_01 11:50

And as you mentioned, determination, they got no tags on their car, yeah, it's like a 10-15 year process.

SPEAKER_04 11:57

Yeah, exactly. That right there, and then what you mentioned with your pastor, may you rest in peace. That you know, what he was teaching is awakening to God in you. Because they always say, Greater, greater is greater is he that's in the world. Well, I forgot that quote, but you know, I know you know where I'm going from with that. Yeah, so but so basically, and he said that was that was all part of the process of you going into Rastafarianism, because you know, I've been around rosters, and it's like, as you say, it's a mystique about it. Like, you know, you're seeking it, but it will find you. You won't find it, but it will find you when it's when the time comes. So I'm glad that you I'm glad you said that. I'm glad that you said that because you said you couldn't put a name to it at first, you know, things was falling. That's all like the symbology behind it. You're like, what's going on? Like, what was it? So that's dope, right there. So when you when you got your first teaching of Rastafarianism, like from the from the from the elder that came out of nowhere, you said, and was took you into nature, right? To tell you, like, was that a sign of basically like stripping you of like stripping you of like worldly things, like, all right, all that don't matter. It's you and this nature right now. That's that's what that's what it can't that's what it felt like at that moment.

SPEAKER_01 13:03

Yeah, that's what it felt like, but uh just it felt like an awakening. That's what it felt like. It felt like it felt like sun rays. It felt like, you know what I mean, your world opens up. It's like you know, when you get new information, you know you've been changed. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 13:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:18

It's like a reset. And you know, that's what it felt like. Um it was like they say, it's empowering because, you know, when you when you don't have that, when you it's like that's why they say we like we drowning, basically. You know what I mean? We drowning, we in fight or flight, you drowning, and I ask you, and then we pull you out later, you drank some water, you was really about to go. And then later we ask you what color the house was on the on the on the on the land. You're like, what how what color the boat was? You I didn't even know all I ain't seen nothing to you know what I'm saying, because you was drowning.

SPEAKER_03 13:54

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:55

A lot of us we we gotta understand when we come from that mindset, that's why I felt called to really represent this platform and this topic, because you know it was a shift in the getting into that mindset, and I think a lot of folks want to skip that when you start interpreting Rastafarianism coming from, like I said, a lot of places that may be similar to where I came from.

SPEAKER_04 14:13

No, it's a fact. No, I'm I'm glad you I'm I'm glad you mentioned that as far as your journey, and you know you you're going step by step. So you got into Rastafarianism from the elder. Did he like did he provide you with any books to read in the beginning or what books to go seek out or any exercises?

SPEAKER_01 14:31

Yeah in the beginning, uh, especially like I said, once once I started really, we had a name to it, and then it was like I learned about his imperial majesty, put a mari how the celestial. So it started with you know, his words, the words of his majesty, you know what I mean? Because a lot of times we need to hear someone that talked for us, you know what I'm saying? Like it's a lot of times when you hear people talk on in the world stage and they talk, it don't sound like it's for us, you know what I'm saying? And then when you listen to words of somebody that had world influence, and when they talk, you like, I can tell he had my back. You see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 15:12

I could tell he cared about that little nation that you don't know about or whatever's going on, he cared about their sovereignty.

SPEAKER_01 15:19

I didn't even know people cared about people's sovereignty when it comes to national interest, international interest. So, you know, this this became my thing at first, which really kind of led me into because I'm a historian type of guy. So um the the words of his majesty was a lot of things first, but you know, a lot of the information was being given, and it'd be like, here's the specific information. Let me know when you got questions. And that's really a lot how I figure a lot of things out, bro. You know what I'm saying? Because now I know it for myself. I don't need nobody to know it for me. You know what I'm saying? I know it for myself. So that's how I received a lot of my information. Just, you know, here it is, here's the exact name, pull your phone out, right? Like he'll do it a lot of times. Yeah, pull it out, write it down, get it right, make sure you spell it correctly. You know what I'm saying? Next time I see you, you should know more. And then we go from there. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 16:15

That's what he did. All right, got you. That's as that's that's how it's supposed to be. Like you, you you go seek, you will pave your path. Here's the tools, you pave your path, and to get back to me because it basically conversation would change later down the line. You start asking different questions. A lot of so that's why rosters tend to say understanding a lot. It's like, yo, you must understand. I can't give you a thing. You feel me?

Ethiopian Ties In U.S. History

SPEAKER_01 16:38

And you know what I mean? Because at the end of the life, that's the reason why we're in the situation we're in now. But colonialism, wonder why? Because they do everything for us, they provide us our food, they provide us our health care, they provide us uh so we in a we in a uh uh axe for state and we don't know it. So when somebody asks you to go do your own work, you feel offended. And see, that's why I appreciate a lot of the process of the elders. You see what I'm saying? So, like I said, that to me, all these things, I affirm that I was in the right place because nothing should come to me easy, and I didn't grow up like that. You know what I mean? A lot of us want our spirituality to be easy, we want our religion to feel safe, and it's just like that's not always the case. And I understand a lot of us are deeply rooted in where we come from, you know, specific background is me. So you know what I mean. But it's hard when you're trying to learn something like Rastafarianism, because immediately when you when I start telling you specifics, it go against what you know now, you know what I'm saying? So that's why a lot of that's why I understand my elder, because what look one thing he always main thing he would say is you can't go for nobody Jesus. You see what I'm saying? And that's just a general statement, you know what I'm saying? So no need to be specific, excuse me, if any of anyone, you know what I mean? But like I say, but you can't go for nobody's highest point, you know what I'm saying? And that's the way that's the reason why, you know, understanding the ethics and the means of being Rastafari was the first aspect for me, you know what I mean? Some of the stuff though, you know, I can get us some specifics though, like some of the stuff, maybe like a little background, you know what I mean? Some of the little history, you know what I mean, to go like that. Because, like I said, this was me being a historian, that's how I get involved with that now. And I'm like, okay, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I start putting pieces together. You feel me?

SPEAKER_04 18:23

Yeah, definitely.

unknown 18:24

So I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_04 18:25

You don't mind dropping that?

SPEAKER_01 18:26

Oh, yeah, yeah. So I in a in a kind of a personal way, right? I grew up in the Yamakra projects here in Savannah, Georgia, and the Yamacra Indians, they were like break off from Yama Cs, right? And they kind of was like, what help, Jay? They I got there's uh they got a plaque downtown Savannah where um it says that they formed Georgia together, and then they got they redid it like two, three years ago, and now they're saying he was an ally of James Ogerthorpe that built Georgia. You know what I'm saying? So you we take that with a grain of salt, even from the one they used to have, you know what I'm saying? But it is what it is. So there's a church right there on the projects. It's uh, dang, I can't think of the name of it right now, but it's in Yamakrol. Everybody knows it, it's right across the street from Building 100 in the front, right by the by the big field. Um I looked up the history because a brother, I was in New York, man, and a brother just happened to say that there was a church called the Ethiopian Church in Savannah. And when I looked up the history of that church, it took me to that. I grew up across the street. That church used to take us on horseback riding. You know what I'm saying? I grew up across the street from that church, and in the in the 1700s, it was the Ethiopian church.

SPEAKER_04 19:36

It's funny because we got one, we do have one in New York in Harlem.

SPEAKER_01 19:41

Ethiopian church, you know, in the 1700s, you know what I'm saying? So just some little stuff, but that's just funny how it's tied to me because you know a lot of talk about my indigenous roots and stuff like that. But then I grew up on a Digitalist land with an Ethiopian church on it, you know what I'm saying? So it's just like this. But with the brother, you know what I'm saying? The brother gave me some information, and then uh, so I had one and looked it up myself and found the church and found the location of it because he was just a North Carolina brother talking, and I didn't really get a chance to build with him. On the way to finding that information, there's another church right up the street, the first African Baptist church here in Savannah. That at first I thought that was the church he was talking about because I know he said downtown Savannah. I didn't know he was talking about the one of the projects. And that church, when I was looking up their history, they had a large voyage of people from Savannah that voyaged to Jamaica in the 1700s to run from the stuff that was happening over here. So I had that information on accident. Like, so you know, we talk about roster fire being a Jamaican thing, and then we in Savannah, but it's just like, bro, we don't know. You feel me? We've been going like this. Yeah, they have us think that we was in a slave state, they don't think we could rack up on a boat ourselves and say, let's get it, let's get up out of here and go to Jamaica.

SPEAKER_04 20:47

See, they don't make us think that we was moving like that in the 1700s, but we was, which we were, you know, a lot of people our people were navigating the seas before.

SPEAKER_01 20:56

I know I ain't got people in Jamaica. I know I ain't my people from Jamaica, you see what I'm saying? Because we've been doing this, yeah. And then another aspect of the history, this is just like the off information, you know what I'm saying? Just other Americans, other people that got similar things could understand how this information's already been around you. You see what I'm saying? So um uh up in New York, they got the Abyssinia Baptist Church founded in 1808, Abyssinia Baptist Church. 1800, you look up the history of it, they'll tell you it was it was started by black folks that left the Baptist Church and some Ethiopian um civilians or something like that. I forgot how they worded it. Ethiopian, just regular Ethiopians is just over here. 1808. What is regular Ethiopians doing here in 1808? Just starting churches with black folks in Harlem. You see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 21:49

I like that.

SPEAKER_01 21:52

See, see, they're not thinking that we move. See, we think 1808, we think we walk around, I was working on the railroad.

SPEAKER_03 22:00

You see what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Adwa’s Impact And Pan-African Resolve

SPEAKER_01 22:02

They're not thinking we was already having intermingling with trade and other things going on. You got Ethiopian civilians, like, man, come on with us. You see what I'm saying? So, boom, to kind of get into some Rastafari history, some of the stuff in the early, and like I said, um, some of the stuff is early on as far as the development of the Zach word, because Rastafari comes from Raz Tafari Makonan, born Tefari McConan. Okay, so that prophecy Raz is actually the title Prince. So Rastafari is kind of coming from that aspect. Well, it's not kind of that's exactly where it's coming from. So this is all from 18, he was born in 1852, excuse me. This is all coming from that time forward, that there can even be a specific as far as Rastafari, but I know there's a lot of effusion there because we talk about it being ancient and it is ancient. And like I said, you know, we might not get into all that today, but you know what I'm saying, just some of the specifics of the name. But I know there's people can find confusion in that I fusion in that because a lot of people hear that it's an ancient thing, and it is. But the specific of what Rastafari starts with a name of his imperial majesty when he was born Raz McUh Tefara McConan, and then he became Raz around like now, I want to say 1916. And I apologize if I'm wrong for that year, but very close. He became Rastafari, and one of the first things he did when he became Rastafari was he sent a mission of Ethiopians over here to renew a treaty because in 1896, when he was four, Ethiopia beat Italy. So you guys say, Well, just a little back history, real quick. The Berlin Conference, that's the scramble for Africa. That already went down, I think like the 1870s or whatever. So they already scrambling for Africa, taking over all of Africa. In 1892, in 1890, Ethiopia in that aspect. Uh, I don't know exactly how many at that point of time, how much of Africa they got conquered at that point in time, but I know they lost to Ethiopia in 1896.

SPEAKER_02 24:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:03

So this gives Ethiopia, when you read the historic archives, this gives Ethiopia the respect of an anomaly on this world. I think only like um India, Japan, and like three other other places, was like the anomaly of like saying you're not colonized on this earth. You see what I'm saying? Ethiopia being the only black one. You feel me?

SPEAKER_03 24:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:27

So, and even in the archives, they say they immediately white because white folks couldn't process it. This is all you find this yourself. They couldn't process it because before Ethiopians, just like every other Africans that they were killing and taking over, were dirty, nasty, this, this, that, and the third. But once they lost the in the history, they said all of a sudden they became clean, they became brothers of the whites. Because a lot of people get it confused when they see some of the history, they be like, Oh, them boys was white, and they was this and they was that. They them folks gave you that history because they was trying to protect their own image. You see what I'm saying? So don't get lost in the propaganda there. But yeah, so that um you can look it up. If you look up the victory of Ottawa, ADWA in 1896, okay, and the effects, so you type it in Google, AI, whatever, and the effects on uh Pan-Africanism, yeah, that's like the number one thing that happened because we were getting our butts whooped across the world at that point in time. In 1896, a lot of Africa's already conquered. You know what's going on in America. Yeah, a place for a black man to go in 1896 and not have it be somewhere you don't want to be was very bad for you.

SPEAKER_02 25:35

You feel me?

SPEAKER_01 25:36

So, this this was our number one source of strength and re-encouragement that there's something good happening with us spiritually, physically, and a lot of times we're lost from that essence, which white people don't understand Rastafarianism. Got you, got you. A lot of us only know we're only looking for spiritual truth, we're not looking for physical truth. See, we're not looking for a living God in ourselves or in the world. That's the reason why most of us can live a life that doesn't truly represent what we say we believe in. You know what I mean? Because we done a lot of speak on religions, but a lot of us are known in certain religions to be like, Man, if if you put me in a house with a bunch of religious people from most of the religions that we know, would you trust them? Would you be able to leave to you see what I'm saying? So it's just like we have to understand that. I guarantee you, if you chose out of 10 religions, who what what somebody you would trust, and it did a lot of people, and anybody that know a roster man, probably pick that roster man. You see what I'm saying? It'd be like, you know, that roster man might make sure my money get back to me out of all the people I know, you know what I'm saying? So we have to understand that there's a certain truth and a certain living truth that what we have to know. So, yeah, that that victory there, 1896, was a lot, but say he was four. And see, a lot, one of the biblical prophecies in that is if you look up Revelations, they said, uh, I think uh the way they counted the days. If you add, I think it's like a thousand or something, and when you divide it, it's like three and a half years that they said they would see a star and that they would go try to get the child.

SPEAKER_02 27:03

You see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 27:04

And if you do the math, that's what how old his imperial majesty was around that time. And there's you know, there's a couple prophecies out there that when they were coming, they were killing all the firstborn sons because they had was observing that star, and they because you know they're doing sorcery on us, they're watching us, they're trying to find and know when we're coming. That's why they already know the next Malcolm, they already know that's why they're getting our soles of our feet, they're doing that, they're getting it, they're doing astronomy, they know these things, they're watching the stars, they've been studying and watching the stars because they understand our knowledge has always been star knowledge.

SPEAKER_04 27:35

Yeah, you're going deep on it. You see, you see where you're taking it. Some people are not ready for that conversation, they're not ready for that conversation.

SPEAKER_01 27:43

So, and he becomes a king, so he's a star king. I don't care if you're from America, Africa, or somewhere, your prophecy starts with a star king. You understand?

SPEAKER_03 27:52

All of it, yeah.

Treaties, Missions, And American Awakening

SPEAKER_01 27:53

So it doesn't matter what people say, oh Christian leader, you know, the Christian church and all these aspects, Star King. You understand? That came to enlighten the melanated beings on this earth, their truth, their light, and their power here in this present time. Because we were being downtrodden as a people. Every time we was under the curse and all this, and okay, if you start really paying attention when that reversed, then you start really understanding why Ethiopia is so important in this time, because it's been important.

SPEAKER_04 28:23

All right. I'm glad that you mentioned you mentioned you gave us a lot, brother. And it was very, you know, for those who're not comprehending, who are unafraid, I mean, who can't comprehend. The brother went deep on y'all. Y'all need to do y'all research, go study um, as you said, Ethiopia, King Menelech. Yes, go study that. And the Marcus Garvey movement, because it that alludes to that as well.

SPEAKER_01 28:45

Yeah. Marcus Garvey had a lot to do with a lot of Pan-Africanism and even Ethiopianism at one point in time. I know at the end, Marcus Garvey uh was upset with his Imperial Majesty. That was like right around the time, I think he died a few years later. Um, but he was upset with his imperial majesty when his imperial majesty got out of Africa, got out of Ethiopia in the war, and he uh got the bath and Marcus, well, he got to London, and Marcus Garvey came to see him, and he didn't see him. He didn't see nobody actually. But Marcus Garvey got upset about that and ended up calling him a coward and other things and kind of turned his back on kind of that Ethiopian aspect and stayed pan-African, of course, for a few more years. But that's kind of the end of that. And it is just this different information about some of that stuff, and I and I understand it. So, you know, and you know, Marcus Garvey, long live the guy, you know what I mean? At the end of the light, some of this truth is uh for a different communication, you know what I'm saying? But like I said, we got we got different pioneers and leaders right here that was here from America. You got Nathaniel Huggins, he got killed behind the name of his imperial majesty, just like Malcolm X's father. Uh, he got yeah, he he went and spoke um before his imperial majesty at the League of Nations. Oh what? Because yeah, when he went out there, he went and represented like the America, like uh League, America, American Colored League or something like that. He went out there representing, he was teaching this stuff in New York. He was the one that got African American and African um like history, Afro-American history into the books.

SPEAKER_04 30:16

Up again, David Higgins. Nathaniel Huggins.

SPEAKER_01 30:20

It's Willis, Nathaniel Huggins. All right, trust me, I'm copying that right now.

SPEAKER_04 30:26

That's dope. See, I didn't I didn't know that thing is for.

SPEAKER_01 30:29

Yeah, he in New York, and then you can look up also Rabbi Arnold Ford. He was in New York, and he um pushed the movement for a lot up there, and he actually was the black Jews of Harlem. The black Jews of Harlem, Rabbi Ford, and uh, so him, the black Jews of Harlem, um, black Christians walking around with a picture of his Imperial Majesty. All religions. I got I got the picture on the archives, I got it on my TikTok somewhere. All of them. See, we could we didn't, and we didn't, religion didn't prevent us from coming together, is the point I'm trying to make. Now it's like, oh, you Islam, you Christian, you Rasta, and now we feel divided. But at one point we understand there was one power, there was one source of sovereignty, and his Imperial Majesty said it at a point in time that was critical. He said, I'm not only the emperor of Africa, I'm the king of all Negroes worldwide, even though it's America. So this was uh this was a see, we gotta send a sovereign notice. I seen somebody was posting about uh later, way later in his life when he went to go to the Vatican, right? He went to the Vatican dressed with a with a sword, holding the sword and all. I'm like, bro, you can't even go in a basketball game with a knife. You see what I'm saying? Going to the Pope, sitting next to the Pope with your sword on you, yielding your sword is a statement. You see what I'm saying? That's declaring your sovereignty on this earth. You can go wherever you want and do what you want. You see, people don't understand that's the power that was given us. That's why building the African League, the uh AOU, uh African Organizational Union, something like that, AOU in 1963. That's important because now you're giving other African leaders a place because you a world leader, you you a world figure at this point. At that point, he's already a world figure, but you're giving other African leaders, it's another one called uh Bang Bang Dung, B-A-N-D-U-N-G, Bang Dung Conference. You look that up, that's an Afro-Asia conference. All the little countries in Asia that have black people. Who else you know is going around came here for us multiple times? You see what I'm saying? Oh, I didn't even finish the part where he uh and when he first became Ross, he sent the Ethiopian missionaries here because after that, I'm gonna go back. Excuse me, uh brother.

SPEAKER_04 32:42

No, you go. I'm I'm just I'm in my head. I'm just like I'm picturing everything like yo.

SPEAKER_01 32:47

It's a lie. You feel me? So I was telling you about the victory in 1896. So this gave him that respect. Like I said, he was still foe at the time. When he became Ross in 1940, 1916, he sent some uh minister, uh what they called uh missionaries. Not missionaries, but uh ambassadors. He sent ambassadors over here by way of C. He was up there in uh Grover Redding or Clayton Adams, one of them boys, or uh Webb, Webb in Chicago. See, they was they read that because then I got the newspaper article. In the newspaper article, it said mission secret. It said Ethiopians came here on a secret mission. That's what they told us as the general population. But what they really came over here to do was renew a treaty because they had that respect in this world and it was and it was signed in 1904, and I think it expired in like 1914. So they was coming to renew it. And then when they came, they even said quoted in the paper, these people walk around as princes. They they yielded the flag over the white house. So the black folk, we was reading the Bible, and they said, hold on. It said princes was come by, it said princes will come by sea, and it said uh they'll in-host a flag, in-host a flag over the house and inside an insign or whatever, right? So they I'm just they're just paraphrasing the scripture, but this is all the scripture they was looking at, and then they coming from because they had the they had the the uh the ride out from Egypt, they came from Ethiopia and they had to ride out from Egypt. So it was like, hold on, we got ambassadors came from Egypt, they supposed to put the flag over the White House, and we're trying to figure out what's going on, these black folks, you feel me? And then when they realized it was renewing the treaty, them boys went and looked up the treaty, and in the treaty they said they could do free commerce amongst the nations, this is that, and the third. And they like, hold on. They saw it as a key way to get out of Jim Crowism, for one, and they also saw it as the liberation biblically. So, and I know it's a debate there with a lot of rosters because they say, Yeah, you know, the Rastafari and stuff like that, they you know, they held his majesty in a certain essence, but not in that most high essence. You know, that kind of like more of a Jamaica thing, as far as like most high, not just the king of the earth, not just the king of the land, which is debatable because like a lot of these guys they were writing books. Um, the universal black king.

unknown 35:02

Well, damn, I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_04 35:04

I we'll try to I heard about that with the universal black kingdom. Rising from the west or east, something like that. They said, look to the east, you find your king or west. Something I forgot. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:15

Uh one of his American brothers wrote it. Um, there's a universal black king coming. So they the not the knowledge is there. Because if you type universal king right now and just Google AI, it's gonna like talk about Christ, it's gonna talk about, you know, I'm saying, like a figure, you know what I'm saying? A messianic figure. So to say that we weren't on the messianic aspect of what his imperial majesty came to be in 1930 when he was crowned king of kings, lord of lords, conquering of the tribe of Judah and became that actual aspect of salvation for us to have in the living, offering us repatriation, offering us jobs and and removing us because at that point in time, he can't just come fix everything at once.

SPEAKER_03 35:53

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:54

But putting these things in the legislation, giving us a way, these folks were stopping us from doing that. I be hearing a lot of the folks, especially you know, a lot of folks that fight me that we American this and we American that, and I'm American. You feel me? And I know my roots and I understand my originality, you know what I'm saying? But I understand my origin, you understand. So I hear it a lot and I understand it where they say, um, dang, what that last part I was on, bro.

Sovereignty Over Licenses And Systems

SPEAKER_04 36:19

Um said about coming, they can't fix all the problems at once, they were stopping them. Yes, he sent the ambassadors, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:26

Yeah, yes, uh, yes, uh. So you know they they prophesy and all this at this point in time. That's 1919, 1917. This all going on. He was crowned king of kings in 1930. Okay, so this is all time where he was not, he was in Ross Tefari time at this time, 1930. He becomes Kitamabi Hali Selassie, all right? Power of the Trinity, first power of the Trinity. Okay, so we understand when we break down his name, you're saying first power of the Trinity, King of Kings, Lord of Lords, Line of Judah, okay? Line of Judah. Okay, so we we understand that um once the war kicked out in 1935, this was this is where we have to understand that the world could have been different. Because if we read the letters, there's a white woman's letters. The goal of it was to erase Ethiopia from my mouth. So when I hear my brother saying that, man, you know, he was a plant, he was this and that. He was a go. Why would they take over the whole world? Make it because in 1935, it was only Africa and Liberia left.

SPEAKER_02 37:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:34

So you got you gotta understand how uh uh if Liberia was still up at the time, I don't know, but I know at some point in time that's it. The whole world's white, colonized. All right, they're gonna say, okay, we're gonna give Ethiopia, we're gonna sign a deal, we're gonna do a deal with this king, and then we're gonna start giving them Africa back, and we're gonna start giving them. I was just reading up on the Bang Doom conference. It said America didn't join this conference. This is a conference his Imperial Majesty spoke, an Afro-Asian conference he spoke for in the 60s in uh Central Asia, right? Say America didn't join this because they were scared if they supported decolonization, that they're allies with the colonizers and this, this, that in the 30s. His Imperial Majesty had to worry about that. I know we see him. Well, he went to the Vatican, he did this, that, because he did what he wanted, because he was a sovereign. See, when we understand, oh, we lost our land over here in America, we lost our land here and that, we lost our sovereignty. So a sovereign being came and gave you sovereignty to establish yourself where you are. Not you ain't had to go to Ethiopia. He gave you an aspect and a mindset, and actually, well, if we really was to have longer in another time, we could break down the international law things that were done.

SPEAKER_04 38:41

Because if you I was gonna get to that, not to cut your wisdom, I was gonna get to that because I I know Malcolm was doing something like that when he was traveling to different nations.

SPEAKER_01 38:48

Malcolm went Malcolm Malcolm went to Ethiopia. Yeah, I remember he was Ethiopia after Mecca, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 38:54

That's crazy. I just say that that's why I'm I'm envisioning my mind, like, yo, he was doing something like that.

SPEAKER_01 38:59

Come on, man. Let's not have time. That's why they want to start calling him crazy and stuff then. That's how they killed Webb. They killed Webb in Chicago, started calling him crazy.

SPEAKER_04 39:07

David, David Webb.

SPEAKER_01 39:08

Uh, not David Webb. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 39:10

Charles uh Webb, man.

SPEAKER_01 39:12

Let me find his name real quick. You can still see me on the screen.

SPEAKER_04 39:16

Yeah, I can still see you.

SPEAKER_01 39:17

I gotta give you this guy's name. Uh, you got Grover Wedding, Reverend Webb, Reverend Webb, Reverend Webb, what is his first name? The Star Order Ethiopia. Reverend Webb is all I can find right now for the show's sake. You feel me? Reverend Webb with W E B B. But yeah, man, these boys, these these is these is early pioneers of our history. Uh, what is that? What exactly I asked me, guy?

SPEAKER_04 39:46

I don't know. Malcolm was doing that. He was going around traveling to Ethiopia and parts of Africa when he was trying to grow.

SPEAKER_01 39:52

Yeah, I'm just saying how European out being crazy. They call you Ethiopian, and you start doing that, they start calling you crazy, bruh. They start calling you all type of stuff. You know what I mean? They doing that right now, uh, Dr. Biddy up in New York, you know, ancient Melchizedek Greeks up in New York now. You know what I'm saying? They could teach you and teach me right now, teach us and keep teaching. You know what I mean? So this we have to understand that this was the original thing because we had a head. See, we we similar to ants as people. If I go to an ant power and remove the queen, what happens? War. The ant power disappear almost, they're done, they die. Yeah, they can't thrive.

SPEAKER_04 40:30

Yeah, because that's the act of war. Taking a woman away.

SPEAKER_01 40:33

Yeah, that's they that's their head. You see what I'm saying? We have to understand as living beings, we're like that. You can't name a sport, you can't name a job, you can't name another thing we do as a people where we don't have a head. We're beings with heads. You see what I'm saying? We have to understand that. So having a head in his imperial majesty that claimed and had descent from Solomon and Sheba because the way they took over this world was through the Papa Bulls. So if you look up the doctrine of discovery, the Papa Bulls in the 1400s, you'll see this what gave Christopher Columbus his rights.

SPEAKER_04 41:10

That's a fact.

SPEAKER_01 41:11

But the Papal Bulls are written by the Pope who claimed their supremacy from the uh primacy of Peter. Peter is not of the bloodline. So his Imperial Majesty having the bloodline of David, putting this in legislation and giving us his seal, gave us authority over them on the international level. A lot of us don't know how to apply that. The same way, if somebody got no tag right now saying he's a more, he don't know how to apply it. You don't know how to apply that. Go take your tag off your car if you want to, and then tell them, Oh, I'm a moor. You going to jail.

SPEAKER_04 41:52

They're not gonna like that, but it's a fact what you're saying. I swear, I see what you're saying, man. You're going deep.

SPEAKER_01 41:56

So we have to understand that. See, they erased us from this because they don't we don't understand. We we stuck in this. A lot of us, you know, we get woke, we get the UCCs. You see what I'm saying? We try to manipulate their system. You see what I'm saying? You still agreeing. I don't want to manipulate your systems. I don't want a license in your system. You see what I'm saying? I don't want a license, I want sovereignty. I want, I don't want to get license to get ganja. I want my ganja to be mine, just like ayahuasca belongs to them boys that do ayahuasca. Nobody come touch theirs and tell them what to do with it and how they got to sell it and lock them up for it. That's their indigenous practice. See, I don't want to be a part of your system, I want to have my own, and that's what it removed us from. And when we get back into his imperial majesty and we start understanding that his aspect to us was self-determination, being self-reliant, and having your own independence and protecting yourself from colonialism. If you name me one person that stood for that harder than him, then maybe I listen a little bit, even if we're just talking about world politics. You see what I'm saying? Because a lot of times, even when we just stick to world politics, you got a lot of catching up to do to get to the works of his majesty. So don't I didn't say in emotions, you see this whole communication, I'm not saying nothing about a God. You understand? Because that's the first thing. That's your God. People get stuck right there.

SPEAKER_04 43:15

Now I see I said I see where you took it, brother. I see where you took it. You removed all the mysticism behind it and said this is what the Rost of Fire movement did for us here in America, as you put it, was showing you how to maneuver around here by watching him. Don't get caught up in the spookism. Watch how he maneuvered. That's it.

Politics Of Haile Selassie And Real-World Works

SPEAKER_03 43:32

That's that's it. That's what we're doing. Oh shit. You see that you see people in the show, you see, you see, you see where we took it, you see where he took it. We remove all that fluff and gave it to you, Raw. Go ahead, God.

SPEAKER_01 43:47

Yeah, it's a little stuff, man. It's just we don't know about like you know, when he traveled when he did his world travels when he came here, you know what I'm saying? It's like you go and it's like you gotta do the dirty dance with the white folks because we ain't got no black president. You feel what I'm saying? So when you come here, but he always Made it his business. If you look at all his tours, he's coming to see us. He went to Howard, yeah. He went to uh UCLA, he went to these different places.

SPEAKER_04 44:08

He went to Haiti. My mom told me when she was a child.

SPEAKER_01 44:10

Yeah, when he was in Haiti, I'm just talking about where he goes when he's in these places. He went to mostly all the black nations. I'm just saying it's different when you go to places like as the time Jamaica has got white government, and you just spend time with white folks. He he wasn't on that. Nah, he liked to take me to the hood. See, if you really watch his way, see what got me on him like that, his imperial majesty kid him always like that. Hard because like I said, it was already the mysticism, and then I just wanted to learn. But as I was learning, I'm like, everything, bruh, do do on the level where I would do if I was in that because I'm in a lot of management positions and been a leader all my life. I'm the oldest son of my family. You know what I'm saying? So it's like when I see somebody moving in that capacity to be see a lot of times you see people in leadership positions in this world, and you're like, What is they doing?

SPEAKER_00 44:52

You're like, what was they thinking?

SPEAKER_03 44:55

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 44:56

But when I started doing my research, I'm like, hold up for everything. I I like that. Like, why ain't no people who was allowed to move like that?

SPEAKER_01 45:04

And then you start picking up on the words. That's what I say. That's what my elders thought of me on the words and the works. The words and the works, because we got to get it done out here. It's good because we talk a lot, and I've been in a lot of space. I done stayed up to 7 a.m. talking, talking, talking, talking. The next day I was back on what I was on because I don't have no eye troll over myself. I'm lost out here in the world in fight or flight with no culture, no head, no unity, with none of the people that's around me, and I'm just trying to pay my bills.

SPEAKER_04 45:32

That's a fact. Somebody say somebody said left a comment. Let me see what they're saying over here. It's something some real stuff. In order to overstand him, one must study his politics. Gotcha.

SPEAKER_01 45:42

Yes, sir. Absolutely. Absolutely. Because every time you're gonna see it, and then when you see it, you see it, you say, Hold up, you hear it real quick, even if he's uh say these places like the League of Nations, right? You hear it, global humanity, you know. Uh, you know, and you kind of just that sounds like everybody, and then right after that, you're like, Okay, now you talk about me. Now you're talking about me, now you're talking about me, me.

SPEAKER_04 46:05

You see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 46:06

Yeah, this time you don't get that. You feel me?

SPEAKER_04 46:08

Yeah, you got you gotta you gotta like you say, you gotta dance with the devil and then let them spin them around, let them go.

SPEAKER_01 46:13

You see what I'm saying? Yeah, you know what I'm saying. A lot of times when you look at things the way it goes it's like people do that dance, but then they don't ever mention us specifically. Everybody else gets their chance to get mentioned. Everybody gets their chance to get something, but we just missing in the world stage when it comes to what our needs is, what's important to us, and what standards we need to have in place in order for us not to be an oppressed people.

SPEAKER_04 46:39

Is there a way that people here in the in the states can get involved with the Rastafarian movement? Must they go to like a similar I know it comes for everyone differently, but they must have these experiences or they must go like a like a formal route with like you know, been resident in the center. How can one become one?

SPEAKER_01 46:59

It's just as it's just as easy as understanding the aspects of yourself, you know. I would say um it's as it's as easy as I wouldn't say as easy, but I would say it's the same process as if you wanted to be anything right now today. The process, you know, you would have to accept it in your heart. I can't make you accept in your heart that there's prophetic biblical aspects of this king that has the bloodline of Christ that came and was the last sovereign black nation on earth that came to unite black people globally to our senses so that we would have self-determination in this days and times. That's a star king from ancient comet.

SPEAKER_04 47:44

Talk about it.

SPEAKER_01 47:45

Go ahead, drop that make you accept that. You see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 47:49

Drop that now.

SPEAKER_01 47:50

If you really accept that in your heart, and then you recognize his politics, is then you start saying, Okay, when you put some of the biblical aspects on it, and then they tell you to follow his law, and then you start looking at his law, and you start seeing okay, in certain aspects, because if you really look at the law in Ethiopia at the time, you would see how biblically aligned everything was. Because in ancient Ethiopian culture, this is this is all for one, one for all. See, that's why we say we lost from that. He is the direct receiver of God's communication to the people, he's trusted in that regard. His position, Sim Ig Zabir, is elect of God, not elect of man. So he's elected by God to lead us and guide us. So they're being guided in an ancient way still at this time. That's why they was called an ancient aisle of ancientness, because we don't have an ancient mindset like that. A lot of us trusting one man to make all our decisions is something we just can't live with. You know what I'm saying? And it's difficult for us to understand that, but just like the ants, that's what's leaving us lost in a certain capacity. You understand?

SPEAKER_04 48:52

That's true. Somebody showing love to you, brother. They're happy with you what you're saying.

SPEAKER_01 48:57

Yes, sir. Give thanks, Idra. Give thanks, yes, sir.

SPEAKER_04 49:01

Highly highly I definitely broke that down for us, man. Like I have a uh different perspective of the Rastafarian movement in America, and I'm glad that you came on here to speak about that because I see the impact. What you're saying is making so much sense. And I'm gonna look up these names later on. Yes, sir. So it's like um I don't want to catch swag for this, but I'm gonna say this respectfully.

SPEAKER_01 49:24

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_04 49:24

Do you think that Selassie's Rastafarian influence and movement in America somehow gave some kind of birth to the Hebrew Israelites out here somehow? Because I kind of see it similar, like you know how they speak with the 12 tribes of Judah and all that, the 12 tribes of Israel. Are they are those two correlated or kind of influenced by the Rastafarian movement in America?

SPEAKER_01 49:48

Hebrew Israelites, I got I got history of them boys already being here establishing themselves prominently in the late 1800s. And I ain't saying them boys like that. Us. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Us being here and a department of us pushing that movement through the Bible. See, that's why I say the the Hebrew Israelites of Harlem, see, they was one of the first ones, Rabbi Ford, Rabbi Arnold Ford, they were one of the first ones on this information because Hebrew Israelites stop you from accepting the king of the Bible that you're reading, because you understand your ancientness, you understand it, you understand the genetics in that aspect. That's why most a lot of uh ones and ones that's in the Rastafari faith that's biblically more so in that aspect, sometimes call itself Rastafari Israelites.

SPEAKER_02 50:33

You understand?

Hebrew Israelites, Unity, And Multiple Paths

SPEAKER_01 50:34

Because it's the same thing, you start understanding how you are enacted in that capacity, you know what I mean. If that's like I say, because you don't have to be there's a there's ancient roster man in the mountains right now, don't know nothing about the Bible, but can tell you everything about life and nature and what you need to know. You see what I'm saying? And then I got brethren, you know, that you got brethren as chaplains, and they recite the Bible to you now, you know what I'm saying? That and they come from that compartment in that capacity. So, you know, yeah, that's why I say it's it's a it's an aspect, man. And then when you look at his Imperial Majesty as a head of our faith, and then you see him go see the Sunnies, and he got his shoes off walking, and then you see him giving respect to um Hinduism and their ancient uh cultures, and then you see him going to see the Rastafarians in Jamaica and giving the Jamaican government cigars, but giving the Rastafarians gold medals, you see what I'm saying, and spending his time in those communities, you know what I'm saying? And then when you see him do these things, going to Howard and leaving ten thousand dollars, but not doing nothing for you know, he's not really giving much to the uh ones that's taking him around and stuff like that. You know what I mean? So these is efforts for him to show when he left America. He said the spec the spectacle of his eye was the love that we showed him. That's why if you go to an event with your children and everybody had a great time, you leave they be like, Man, the best thing I have is man, my children. You feel me? Yeah, yeah. We really hear the logic of some of this stuff sometimes. Yeah, ground versus border education. We taught that in school in America. Oh, that's what cave of segregation. Look it up. They passed that law officially because his imperial majesty was coming over here to make a state visit in the middle of that time, you know, the cold war and other things was going on. Yeah, his imperial majesty was coming over here for a state visit, and they said they didn't want to be embarrassed in the midst of what was happening and went ahead and passed that law. So we don't understand how we've been affected in a certain capacity by his imperial majesty giving us a hand to not have these folks punching us at water fountains and putting us on trees with no punishment. Because we were just going through that 100 years ago. And when the boys came over here in 1919 when he was still Rastafari, and they asked them Ethiopians how they felt about what was going on, because they said it was a couple hangins that happened. And the Ethiopians said, We dislike any hanging of any people. And uh hold on, I put the quote right here because I want to make sure I quote it correctly. The Ethiopian said in 1919 they came here. Oh man, because this is this this for us. He said Ethiopians dislike brutality of any uh uh burning at the stake, lynching of any nature, and other outrages held upon the African American people. Fight on, don't stop. So you got a sovereign power coming here in 1919 telling you to fight on, don't stop. That can't be to renew a treaty that looked like you. You ain't getting no power from nowhere else at that point in time because there's nowhere else to get it from, because the whole world is a dark day. That's why I say when they came for his imperial majesty, it's just like they done every other black man, they annexed him, they wouldn't let him get because Ethiopia surrounded. He couldn't get nothing from water. You see what I'm saying? So, whatever they had in Ethiopia, they had to go to war with against the Roman Empire. So the bloodline of Christ, see, that's why I say I can get in all these, and then they signed this deal in 1929. The Pope, the King of uh Italy, and um Mussolini. It was the three was doing, they was doing all these prophecies. I wasn't doing these prophecies, I wasn't here in 1929. So this was Americans putting all this together. Like, hold up, they were seeing all this happening. They dropped it in the Washington Post because in the in the revolutions they said the daily wound to be healed. And then uh uh one of the dudes wrote an article in the Washington Post, right dude said when they did that Vatican Treaty in 1929 that Italy had healed its daily wound. So we know it was the beast making war with the lamb. See, when you read the history of the Ethiopians, they always was known as the most just of men. This is this is in this is in um Herodus, Greek historian, and uh, what's the other dude's name? Uh Herodotus, another Greek historian that they like to look up to all the time. They mentioned Ethiopians, they say they were the favorites of the gods, most just of men. This is two, three thousand years ago.

SPEAKER_04 55:05

Come on, Alexander.

SPEAKER_01 55:08

I can find it real quick. Herodas and um what's the other dude's name? I can find it real quick, brother.

SPEAKER_04 55:15

Not aurelius, not them, right?

SPEAKER_01 55:19

Because these these the Greek historians, man, because you know, a lot of times that's where we get most of our information from, man.

SPEAKER_04 55:25

Uh you you just you just bust my head with that one with that. Because now I'm thinking about when they got you could see me looking for it when they got rid of um Ali Selassie, the way he had he was taken out was just crazy. Like a lot of infighting took place before those end of days, and what he represented for real was a threat.

SPEAKER_01 55:43

Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. But I mean, you know, it was okay. Ultra, man. It's a lot of stuff like that, man. But you know, they really they never took him out. We never got a chance to see him. So you gotta understand the reason why they let us see Malcolm's body, the reason why they let us see Fred Hampton's body, the reason why they let us see this stuff because they want us to see our Messiah figure in corrupt form. We never got a chance to see his Imperial Majesty in corrupt form. They can say what they want to say, and like I said, that is what it is when you come to debate and all, you know, because his bones were smaller after they say years later that they choked him and all this and all that. So I'm sure if you had them and if you strangle them and you did all this, why would you killing the family looking for him? So we understand that there's a lot of stuff to that, but like I said, that's a whole nother aspect, you know what I mean?

Education, Laws, And Global Alliances

SPEAKER_04 56:33

Definitely. But your brother, I don't know, man, but we gotta bring you back here, man, with the places of time because there's a lot of information, even in the comment section, people are saying they learn it so much. Because you know, people thought they would get like that typical generic overview of Rastafarian, and that's why we dubbed the show as Rastafarian movement when we spoke on the phone in America. And I'm glad that people got to see a different perspective on what it did, like you know, and through different avenues, Rasta, Rasta influenced different kinds of revolutions and resistance. And I'm I'm glad we did it like this, man. We gotta have you come back. Where can the people find you at, my brother?

SPEAKER_01 57:10

You can find me anywhere at real water no tap because I am a conscious hip-hop artist, an ice hip-hop artist, drop clean, real music to try to get you out of the streets, change your frequency. It's uh healing with hip hop. And then uh, of course, I do reggae. So everywhere, real water no tap, even on TikTok, is where I got most of my informational stuff. But real, real water, no tap. Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_04 57:35

Definitely you know what? Because we do album reviews, you gotta bring the music up on here, man. We gotta bring the music, yo, brother. You gotta bring the music, bro.

SPEAKER_01 57:42

Do that American roster on the way. I'm I'm trying to drop an American roster album to kind of give this info on bees. Downtown.

SPEAKER_04 57:50

It's important is needed, you know. Like, like a lot of like information you give them was like, you gotta you know, have me look up some names. I'm like, I'm gonna look this up and do my research. It just filled me up with some stuff. So I appreciate that, my brother. Um, to our to our viewers and um listeners, don't forget to comment, like, share, subscribe. Share this show, some great information that the brother gave out to us a great presentation, a lot of information that he dropped. We appreciate you for that. With that being said, we out. Ross Daniel, my brother. Salute. I appreciate you, beloved. Thank you. And we out.