Unlocking Inner Peace: The Transformative Journey of Healing and Forgiveness"

What if peace isn’t something you find, but something you make room for? We sit down with Divine Karma to get real about healing, forgiveness, and why so many of us keep dating the same energy in a different body. From defining divine feminine (nurture, creation, compassion) and divine masculine (aligned action) to building balance within, we map a path from blame to ownership that actually feels doable.

We share hard-won lessons on accountability without self-bashing, and how forgiveness becomes possible when you drop judgment instead of rewriting the past. You’ll hear practical frameworks for shadow work—the “why” game that drills down to root causes—plus how therapy and Reiki support emotional release when willpower isn’t enough. We talk boundaries that end echo chambers, daily intentions that set your nervous system to “peace,” and evening reflections that turn missteps into momentum.

Relationships get a spotlight too: how unresolved trauma sabotages trust, why submission to the union beats control of a person, and a simple pyramid model that keeps individuality intact while deepening connection to something higher. We also name generational patterns and share a powerful ritual—writing a letter from your higher self to your former self—to honor the past and clear space for healthier love.

If you’ve felt stuck in loops of anger, resentment, or loneliness, this conversation is your signal to pivot. Expect clear language, real stories, and tools you can use today to stop reacting and start responding, to forgive without forgetting, and to attract from the frequency you live in. Listen, share with a friend who needs it, and if the episode moves you, subscribe and leave a review so more people can find the healing they’ve been waiting for.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:11

Peace world, peace world, how you doing? It's your brother Mikey Fever. Welcome to another episode of NYP Talk Show. Don't forget to comment, like, share, subscribe. We got super chats. Tell a friend to tell a friend. This is the dopest and coolest podcast within this conscious niche. Niche. As I say, I don't know what's up with my words again. And we are just here to elevate, learn, and grow with one another, with all due respect. Without further ado, I have a familiar face who haven't been on this platform for about a year and a half, I think, going on two years.

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About that, about that.

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A good sister.

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Thank you.

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A queen, a divine feminine, feminine. Oh, a goddess.

SPEAKER_02 0:57

Thank you.

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And a sister that walked that walk and also talking. We have Kimitri, aka Divine Karma. Welcome back, beloved. How you been?

SPEAKER_02 1:09

I've been I've been doing, you know, trying to be a uh not trying to be a human doing, but a human being. But I've been well. I've been well, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:19

I'm happy to hear that. I am good, man. It's been a while. It's been a while, man. Everything's been good. Yeah, I got candle works in the building, peaks the candle works.

SPEAKER_02 1:28

Oh, they're my people. My people like I'll be on there. That's my girl, Teresa. Hey Teresa.

SPEAKER_01 1:34

That's what's up. What up, Teresa? Don't forget to comment, like, share, subscribe, Teresa.

SPEAKER_02 1:38

Yeah, she would definitely do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:39

Uh show that love, Teresa. Well, Kenetra, I'm happy to have you here. Beloved, it's been a minute. It's been a minute, you know. Oh, I know. You was with you was you you was uh you were on here with us from the beginning.

SPEAKER_02 1:52

Yeah, yeah. Neil Bay, uh plugged me right when y'all have first started. Yep, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:57

All right, so that brother. Oh my god, man.

SPEAKER_02 2:00

Yes, yes, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 2:00

That brother's that brother supported us from like day one, like he's just been there.

SPEAKER_02 2:05

He's always been like that. Yeah, he's always been supportive. Yeah, yeah. Rest in peace, rest in power to that brother.

SPEAKER_01 2:10

Rest in power, man. Peace to peace to his family as well.

Defining Divine Feminine And Masculine

SPEAKER_02 2:13

Yes, yes, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 2:15

So tonight we're we're talking about unlocking inner peace, the transformative journey of healing and forgiveness. This is a good topic because that's something I find that's very difficult for people to do is to find forgiveness and to heal because they tend to get stuck, suspended in time within that um that place of pain.

SPEAKER_02 2:34

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 2:35

It's like they've become comfortable with that.

SPEAKER_02 2:38

So they have. It's very, it's very hard. Um I just want to say from a divine feminine aspect, it's one of the things I think we struggle with a lot. I really, really do. Um, I'm a certified life coach, and I have clients, especially divine feminines, that it's it's hard. It's hard, and I think it comes from a lot of you know, a lot of different things that that causes this. But I think it's gonna be good to get a divine feminine, you know, how we see things and how we feel, and then you from a divine masculine aspect as well.

SPEAKER_01 3:15

Gotcha. I was I respect that. Before we go for it, what is a divine feminine? We want to, you know, elaborate on that for viewers and listeners that just got on to this concept. Can you break that down for us?

SPEAKER_02 3:27

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So all of us have divine feminine and divine masculine in us. Um, all of us. And divine feminine energy is always the energy of nurturing, birthing, creating something. That is the divine feminine energy. If you think of even a thought process, thought process has to be birthed. That's the divine feminine energy, you know. And once you can move in that energy, it allows you to go talk, you know, go through what we're talking about right now to be able to be compassionate, to learn how to not just forgive others, but forgive yourself for things you know you might be beating yourself up about. But being in a divine feminine energy, you're connected to your goddess energy. You know what I'm saying? You know what you know your worth, but you know, there's divine masculine energy as well, and we have to be balanced out. Divine masculine is about action, is about moving, you know, taking action. So you can't move with something and take action on something until you know that process, that thought process has to be burged. So that's the divine feminine energy.

What Healing Really Means

SPEAKER_01 4:36

Gotcha. I respect that. Beautifully said. Oh my god, that's deep right there. So so we're going to the concept of you know, this is about healing, forgiving, a journey and the into the nature of healing. What is healing? What does healing mean? What does healing mean in the eyes of a divine feminine?

SPEAKER_02 4:56

Forgiving ourselves, um, and healing from there's a lot of healing. We have a lot of healing from childhood traumas. I know a lot of divine feminines, and I was one who had daddy issues. You know, my dad ran out on me um at a young age, and um, I had a lot of healing to do because it caused me to be looking for a significant other that could fill his shoes, you know. I want a boyfriend, a dad, and all that, and a third. So that's some inner healing that I had to do, but healing also from staying in relationships too long, you know. You've seen all the red flags, you know, and and you still stay for whatever reason, not judging. We we've all been there, of course. But you know, healing has to happen. You know, people think healing is something that comes from external um and you know, outer energies. The best healing is from within, and that makes you you have to be honest with yourself, like you can hide put a mask on with other people, but when it comes to dealing with you and you know, you and source, whoever that is for you, you can't hide, you can't put that mask on. You can't, and so healing, man, it's a dialogue with self is what it is, and being honest with self, man, yeah, I said I'm healed from this, but have I the shadow work? Have I really faced the you know, boogeyman, you know, in the closet? And of us don't want to do that because it's too uncomfortable. And I I tell my clients all the time, if you want to heal and move forward and grow in life, you have to be comfortable with being uncomfortable, right? Because growth and comfort don't go together, you know, you'll even have you complacent. Oh, I'm good right here. And I'm not saying don't celebrate the milestones, right? Because you can, but don't get comfortable there because you can't heal and grow staying in the same spot. You have to turn around and face your fears, whether it's fear of getting another relationship, fear, you know, fear of you know, family and child or trauma, whatever it is. Because if you feel that, you can't grow. You you you just there's no energetically, it just doesn't happen that way. So that's what healing is to me, being honest with myself, whether it's sitting in silence, whether it's sitting there with tears coming down my face, being honest with myself and talking to my guides and angels and spirit team and source, like don't be afraid to ask for help. Like, hey, I don't I don't know what to do. You know what I'm saying? I I surrender to this day because I don't know what to do. That that's healing, that's the healing process for me.

Time, Growth, And Accountability

SPEAKER_01 7:34

That's dope. That's beautifully said because it's true what you're saying, it's very true. Um, it's becoming vulnerable with yourself, like you know, knowing your your strengths, your weaknesses, the honest, like that cold honesty. Face yourself in the mirror every day. You know what you you know what needs to be done, but you choose to be um stagnant, yeah, you know what I'm saying, neglectful, always looking to blame someone instead of looking at the person who started it themselves, like you know, self-savior. Because it's that's even that's even in in the inscriptions in ancient Egypt on the walls where know thyself. So part of healing is to know yourself. Yep, got you. All right, that's that's dope. I'm glad you mentioned that. Oh man, that's that's dope right there. So is is is the healing process uh instant art of grace or act of grace, or does it take time?

SPEAKER_02 8:27

I think it I think it takes time for most, you know, people, and it depends on the situation. If we're just talking about, you know, you healing from, you know, you and your best friend had an argument about something that's different than, but when you're talking about healing on a level that's life-changing, you know, healing on a level to and people don't understand, like it's I talked about earlier on one of my lives, it's like your closet is too full, right? You gotta clean it, you gotta clean it out in order to create space for something new, and that you know, healing is part of that. Is it gonna be instant? Nope. Is it gonna be comfortable? Nine times out of 10, it is not. Not you know, not saying that somebody did not do something or moved, you know, moved in the hold hold on a second.

SPEAKER_01 9:32

I what my sound effects at because you said the key word was yo, now for real, accountability. That's something people tend to lack is accountability.

SPEAKER_02 9:42

It is, it is, and I'm I'm not taking away from some, you know, somebody may have done something to you in a relationship or whatever the situationship is, but at the same time, you have to hold yourself accountable for where you are in the in the you know, in the situation in the position, a lot of times, especially with divine feminines. No, as they say in the Christian world, we are not equally yoked with someone, you know what I'm saying? But we stay for different reasons, multiple cheating, this, that, and the third, all the things that has happened, and we still stay.

SPEAKER_01 10:17

And I'm trauma bonding, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:19

And I'm telling I'm no, because I've been I'm speaking from experience, and then we go through the we don't want to be alone, and whatever the reason, and we stay way too long, and I had to go through that account, the accountability phase and healing. I'm telling you, that's like a fight because your ego is wanting to tell you this ain't your fault. That's a fact, that ego is like, This ain't our fault. They did this, they did that, and your ego is you, you know. Sometimes you got to put your ego in the trunk. I need you to ride in the trunk for a minute and shut up because accountability, and I had to look back in situations and say, you know what? This happened, and and my mama used to say little ones, shump somebody show you who they are, believe them. You gotta believe them, and a lot of times we don't want to believe that they that person, and they have shown us over and over and over and over again for whatever reason. So I had to have a conversation with myself.

SPEAKER_01 11:26

That's very true, it's accountability because I'm glad that you mentioned that because even myself, like I'm glad that we're speaking about this too, because I don't exempt myself. There are times where I used to be like so quick to point the finger, but I always knew, like, you know what, I played a part in this. I played a part in this because I continue to follow along. Yep, you understand? I choose to be um naive. Like it's like it's like smoking a cigarette. You you fool yourself. Yeah, you fool yourself. Can you hear me?

SPEAKER_02 11:55

Yeah, I'll hear you.

SPEAKER_01 11:56

It's like a smoker, right? Like, you know, the cigarette will say um surgeons general warning if you continue smoking this, this could lead to cancer, whatsoever.

SPEAKER_02 12:05

Yeah, I like that.

SPEAKER_01 12:06

And we continue to do so thinking that we'll get we will have like a greater outcome. Maybe if I smoke less or period, smoking period will mess you up. You get what I'm saying? Or um what's the other one? It's like you're fooling yourself to think that something else will happen, but you know, yeah, and that that's very hard.

SPEAKER_02 12:27

Uh, you know, Divine Feminine, we you know, we built emotional, we emotional creatures, hands down. We all can agree to that, and a lot of times when it comes to relationships, we are too we have this image of who we think this person can be. We always have the tendency to, you know, he's a good guy, if he can do this, and we're trying to mold them, and we have this beautiful image of if they, you know, could only get in this energy and frequency, they will be the perfect person, but they gotta want to do that, and then we fall in love with the image of who we thought they could be and who we want them to be, and when they don't hold up to that, then we pissed off. So I had to ask myself, wait a minute, who you pissed off at? Because this man has shown you multiple times who he is. So who are you really mad at? And I had to be honest with myself, I'm mad at the fact that I made this image of him, and he's shown me he don't want to be that, that's not what he wants to be. So now I'm pissed off, but I really accountability, I really gotta be, I gotta take accountability for staying. Because once they show you, hey, I'm not gonna be that person, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 13:39

And you also got to you also gotta factor in that that may not be in that person's capacity, whether male or male or woman, you know what I'm saying? Because you know, people who people are who they are, and basically know a lot of factors take place, you know, they upbringing, you know, how they were, you know, they upbringing their level of education, and what what's what maybe what what may be offensive for you may not be offensive for them. Yeah, you know, so I'm glad that you you mentioned that. I don't know, my microphone keeps cutting it. Let me know if you can hear me or not.

SPEAKER_02 14:08

Yeah, I can hear you. I can hear you.

Forgiveness Without Judgment

SPEAKER_01 14:10

All right, good. So I have another question, right? With an aspect of forgiving forgiveness, can someone be forgiven by God, but not by people? Because some people be like, God forgive, I don't.

SPEAKER_02 14:24

I'm going to say yes, but in the capacity, I don't, you know, God for me, source is not something out there. So when I think about source forgiving me, it's like my higher self having a conversation with my lawyer, lawyer, lower self, telling my lower self, hey, we made some mistakes. Okay. But forgiving myself, for me, that's like source forgiving me, forgiving myself. And, you know, it's different for different people. That's just how I see it, because we beat ourselves up a lot. We really, really do. Um just, you know, talking to ourselves. Words are powerful. So what we think and what we say to ourselves um is very powerful. So, you know, that forgiveness thing, I start with me because I can't forgive somebody else until I've taken accountability and forgive myself for whatever reason, for staying too long, for not paying attention, to letting somebody take me out of my higher, you know, my higher self frequency. And I forgive myself. And to me, that's like, you know, source, God, Allah, Buddha, yeah, whoever that is for you, that is like source forgiving me at the same time. The capacity that I have to forgive myself. It I just consider it as source saying, okay, now we now we're getting somewhere. Now now we're getting somewhere.

SPEAKER_01 15:44

I got you. So, what does forgiveness actually mean per like for the individual that chooses to go that route? What does it mean for them?

SPEAKER_02 15:54

Releasing, letting go. Forgiveness for me is releasing any judgment, judgmental energy with with whatever action that you're forgiving yourself for. Not gonna judge it, not not going to put it in a good or bad category, not gonna do any any of that. Forgiveness for me is not being attached to the judgment part of it, if you know what I'm saying, because we so quick to have you know, oh, that was bad. What you did. I don't judge it when I need to forgive myself or something or forgive someone, I take that judgment out of there because judgment will have you think, oh, this is good, this is bad, this was right, this was wrong. And I take all of that out of equation because forgiveness has to be pure, so it can't be in that low frequency vibration of judging someone, judging the action, or judging myself. It has to be pure. So I take all the judgment, judgmental energy and the blame game, I take all of that out of forgiveness.

SPEAKER_01 16:52

We do, we do, we do have to do that, you know. Both brothers and sisters out there, because a lot of healing is required within our community as well, the world basically.

SPEAKER_04 17:00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 17:01

There's a lot of people walking around with chips on their have a chip on their shoulder, uh broken heart, they are in a in a dark place where they begin to lash out of others, and they it that that unforgiving behavior and holding on to grudges, it does build self-hate. They could they could believe, they could fool themselves, thinking that I'm fine. But then when you see that person that so-called may have uh uh offended you or created a transgression, automatically you're flared up, you're angry, you're throwing off course. And I'm like, that's not for you know, you you haven't healed really, because if the mere presence of the person could really throw you off your game, that means you haven't been healed. That person has control control over you.

Therapy, Energy Work, And Boundaries

SPEAKER_02 17:43

Yeah, I I I agree. And forgiveness comes with I'm not saying forget, you know, forget what happened. I'm not saying that because obviously there was a lesson to learn, but forgiveness for me, because people always say, you know, you still, you know, with certain exes or whatever, I can't believe you still like even talk to them, speak to them. And I tell people, I don't, I don't have no ill will, like I can't hold on to that. That will literally make you sick.

SPEAKER_00 18:10

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 18:11

I can't hold on to that. And who who am I to hold on to that? Right? I'm not forgetting what happened, but I forgive them. I don't have no ill will towards them. I don't when I see them, it's not a trigger. Forgiveness for me, that's like the the meter for me. And I tell people, this is how you know you didn't forgave somebody. If you see them and you still ain't feeling no type of way, and even if they speak, I don't care what they did. How you doing? Hope everything's good with you, brother. Hope everything's good with you. When you can move, forgiveness has worked for you. But if you see that person, just like you just said, and all these thoughts come back up, and you get to thinking about what they did, what they said, you have not healed, and you never have you are not moving in the energy of forgiveness.

SPEAKER_01 18:56

You'd be like back in 1989. I remember the time outside. It's like, damn, right? Like you know who you know who taught me the art of forgive forgiveness, and I I call it divine feminine was my mother. I'm gonna be I'm gonna be I'm gonna be slightly uh candid on this. My mother and father relationship was very tumultuous. A lot of things transpired, you know, even acts of violence whatsoever. But to see my mom like brush out off her shoulders doesn't let it affect her. Like she said, if this man was starving right now in the streets, if I see him, I'll give him something. And I'm like, wow, twice to get angry, but then she's like, you know why I don't let it bother me? And she's like, I'll be a I'll be a hypocritical Catholic whatsoever if I'm praying for forgiveness, but yeah, I can't forgive someone else.

SPEAKER_02 19:42

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 19:43

Yeah, how do how do I look? And she's just telling me, it's like me drinking the poison expecting him to die.

SPEAKER_04 19:49

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 19:49

That does nothing for you because it's only affecting me. And you know, I had to learn that. And hello, hello, somebody in the I had to learn, I had to learn that art to, you know, really get past that. And I'm glad that you mentioned earlier um that you said that you are a life coach, certified life coach, right? And I mean this with all due respect to you, but there are some to you, you're good. But there's some there are some life coaches out there that I see on social media that be giving people some crazy um information, like advice, like don't don't ever speak to your mom again, don't this and that, stay away from your family. And they they are quick to throw that term narcissist around without really breaking the word down. But that's like that's that's like the that's like the um the word that they they that they that they use as a crutch to say, yeah, this person is a narcissist.

SPEAKER_02 20:38

Yeah. It is, and you know, I I I I hate that people do that, you know, because you got people out there that's giving people this type of advice, and the word narcissist is such a familiar common, it's just thrown around like crazy. I, you know, when I life coach, I learned how to, there's certain exercises that I learned uh with who I got my certification with, but a lot of mine comes with I put that with my life experience. And because I don't hold ill will towards people, I'm an empath. So I don't, I don't like to see anybody hurting, sad, or anything. I don't care what they did to me. I just don't believe anybody should, you know, hurt or feel bad. Healing, yes. So, you know, whenever I coach, the end goal for me is for that person to love themselves, to heal themselves, right? And not to hold on to any negative energy or entities and not let someone be a trigger for them. Like, you know, that that's my ultimate goal. So, and it is people out here that tell people, you know, don't ever, and I'm not saying if your family didn't been bogus and you gotta, you know, you know, take a look at boundaries to protect yourself. Yeah, people set boundaries, yeah, yeah. I understand. I do, I I understand that. I understand that.

SPEAKER_01 21:57

But I heard a life coach said something one time, like. If your mother's on a dying bed, don't go visit her. Give yourself that peace. Don't go. I'm like, yo, that's that's pretty harsh. And you're talking about this is about self-forgiveness.

SPEAKER_02 22:10

No, because people like that don't they don't know, you know, what it's like to be an empath. They don't know, you know, they don't understand forgiveness and healing and things of that nature. Man, it's a cycle, right? And I'm I'm a firm believer. If you if you if you send it out that way, that thing coming back around some kind of way. So whatever you, you know, is cliche. But if you putting out that energy, it's got to come back some kind of way. It has to. That's just how the laws of the universe work. It has to come back to you in some kind of way.

SPEAKER_01 22:44

So, how does the shadow the shadow work plays into the um plays into the art of um healing and forgiveness? Like it was like a small breakdown. Like, how can one go about that? Like, say somebody has insecurities, they have fears, they they feel it, um, they feel inferior, they can't control their thoughts. How can one go about healing themselves?

Unresolved Trauma In Relationships

SPEAKER_02 23:08

For me, you know, a dark night of the soul and shadow work, that's all kind of one little neat package um for me. And I did, I did uh I put on my website um a PDF on how to get through a dark night of the soul or doing shadow work. And shadow work is just like what it says, you know, your shadow is always, you know, the image of something behind you, something dark, something that's always following you. Something, you know, a shadow will always be it won't let you go, that type of energy. So when I do shadow work, like it it's back to you, you have to face your fears. Two opposing energies can't occupy the same space at the same time, right? That's that's physics. So you can't have fear and courage in the same way. It doesn't work. One of them has to go, one of them has to get out of the space because they can't share a space together. So again, being honest with yourself. For me, it's writing down in the beginning, is what I did, wrote down everything like I'm scared of, and everything that makes me feel some type of way or feel sad. And that was me starting me, you know, doing shadow work and then literally just sitting there and writing down why do I feel this way? There's always a why. I have a why game when I coach, and the people and they say it irritates the hell out of them, but it works because they tell me something and I say why, and then they tell me something else, and I say why, because when you get you'll get to the root of what the problem is if you ask why enough times. It was why why do you feel like you're scared of being abandoned? Man, because my dad abandoned me. Well, why does your dad abandon me? Because this and the third of his new why, and it's why you will get to the root of why you feel in some type of way if you just keep asking.

SPEAKER_01 25:03

Somebody said all cycles have a remedy loops, don't overstand that the the two they are not the same. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 25:12

Okay, okay, understood. Okay, that's fine.

SPEAKER_01 25:16

I got you. How does unresolved hurt and trauma affect relationships? I know it's basic. I know you mean you know, some people don't do the work and they get into relationships, you know, they carry that luggage with them.

SPEAKER_02 25:30

But it happens, yeah. People people stay in that energy for years in a marriage or relationship. Not speaking of not, but you know, both parties have to be willing. Like we say you can talk to me about anything, but sometimes everybody don't mean that. And divine feminists, we quick for that, you know what I'm saying? And I'ma say this and I ain't trying to, you know, but I know because I'm a woman. But I used to ask myself, what if he would have came to me and said, Yeah, I really ain't for real. I really wanna what other women like what could we handle that if they was honest? You know what I'm saying? We don't it's like, and and for divine masculine, a lot of times I feel like most of them are just like, I can't be honest with her because we have a tendency to, you know, kind of flip our lid or whatever. So not having that open dialogue, I've I rarely find people, couples, that like really, really, really can sit down and say, Hey, I need to tell you some stuff, but you know, because there's some things you're doing, I ain't feeling very rarely. We need to get back to that. Our ancestors was like that. They that's how they moved, that's how they stayed together so long. But in this age, Mikey, you know.

SPEAKER_01 27:00

It's a fear because couples, I'm telling you, because listen, I go through it at times. Like I'm not like I always um I'm not afraid to speak up. Let's out in my mind. But it's also based on the person's, like you said, how the person will react. Yes. Some people got a level a different level of comfort of what can be said to them, what cannot be said to them. Some things people will take things personal, like, yo, you said this to me. Yeah, even if it pertains to something that has like a small trivial thing, it's like depending on the person's um level of mature. I don't want to say maturity because I don't I don't want to sound like I'm trying to diminish people.

SPEAKER_02 27:36

Spiritual maturity, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:38

Yeah, like you know, because some people are easily offended. I noticed that too. Adults are far more sensitive than children. Adults are very sensitive because they're ego, they feel a certain way about them. And again, as you say, with relationships, you know, if the man's not correct with himself to see that look, I have issues in my past, and also the woman. And yeah, two people that's gonna trauma bound and just carry luggage into the relationship, expecting the other person to fix them. Yep, and that that's the thing, you can't expect your partner to fix you. They can help you build, but they can't repair you. Yeah, you gotta do the work.

SPEAKER_02 28:11

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 28:12

This is this is something I always tell people if your mate, whether male or female, um are insecure, he or she has to realize within the word insecure means that's an internal issue. That's not that's not your partner's problem.

SPEAKER_02 28:25

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 28:26

Because if you're insecure, whatever the person does will make you feel insecure about yourself. Yeah, that's not blurred, that's let that's not blur blur the lines of blatant disrespect or misunderstanding.

SPEAKER_02 28:37

Correct, correct.

SPEAKER_01 28:39

You know, so that's what happens out there. It's insecure.

Shadow Work And The Why Game

SPEAKER_02 28:41

But people don't, but I I man, it's it's almost like I I just feel like it's like a job application sometimes. People need to really before they get serious with each other and decide to be exclusive and you know be in a you know relationship, these things need to be talked about, you know. Divine feminism, we need to tell this brother, hey, look, I got some childhood trauma, I got some daddy issues. I'm not expecting you to heal me, but I just want you to understand I may move a certain way because I'm still working on that, and I, you know, I just don't want you to judge me. I just need your support and understanding as I work through this because you know, you can't heal me. And divine masculine is the same way because it's a lot of brothers out here that got mommy issues, and I talk about it and daddy issues too.

SPEAKER_01 29:29

Daddy, a lot of brothers got daddy issues too, believe it or not.

SPEAKER_02 29:32

They do, they do, and I really didn't realize that until I started coaching. I was like, Oh, it ain't just us out here, it's a divine masculine masculine out here. That's the same way. I've ran into a lot of brothers that have mommy issues, and I don't know, they didn't get that mommy nurturing, caring energy from their mom, and you know, and I see that a lot now because you have mothers that are trying to be their son's, you know, best friend and homie and kicking it and all this, that, and a third, instead of being that nurturing and divine feminine energy that they need in their in their life, and it's a lot, it's very common now. And then this brother gets with a woman and they look just like I said with daddy issues, they got that same energy, like they expecting a whole lot. And I'm like, no, I bro, I'm I'm your wife, I'm your girlfriend, I'm I'm not your mom. Yeah, it's very common, and I didn't know how common it was until recently.

SPEAKER_01 30:38

It's true, because you know, within our community, that's one thing with mental health, also, if you gotta factor in, like, you know, childhood experiences, those traumas, you know, a lot a lot of women have come across had experiences of being sexually violated. Yes. So that plays a part where she has a distrust for men, a dislike for men. So whatever whatever man she comes across that she feels is not respecting her or protecting her, you know, that venom will come out and be like, no, this is why I can't stand you. Like, you know, men ain't fish. Yep. And depending on the guy, how he was raised, and his upbringing, he have a he'll have a disdain for some women out there because you know, I see how mommy behaves. And you know, with in hindsight, when you look at this, people don't people get so caught up, so boxing into their own world of emotion, they don't see that. Maybe mommy and daddy had unresolved issues as well.

SPEAKER_02 31:31

Right.

SPEAKER_01 31:32

So it's perpetuated.

SPEAKER_02 31:33

Yep. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 31:39

I'm listening. Go ahead, sis. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 31:41

I I let me tell you, you know, y'all, you know how I get down. And I I literally just did a I had a sit-down. Y'all know I I'm into rituals and spells, but only things for my protection and and healing and stuff like that, nothing against other people. And I was with my mom recently, and I just I don't know what made me. I sat there and I was like, there is actually not one divine feminine in my immediate family that has ever in my life what a healthy, long-lasting relationship with the divine counterpart is because none of the divine feminine on on my mom's side and my immediate family have had that. And I was visiting my mom, and uh, you know, my grandparents passed when I was away, uh child, so I didn't I didn't really get to know them. And something just I was just like, I got the names of my grandmothers from my mother, and when I got back home, I got my candles out. I wrote a letter because this is usually how I do my rituals or spells. I wrote a letter with all of their names on it and said what I needed to say, and I'm just because I found out from my mom, it's been passed down since like my great-grandmothers, like this energy, like it, like I and I because I see, I see my other, I'm looking at my other sisters around me, younger and older, moving in this same energy. And I'm like, this is this is generational, and it happens. We have lineages of divine feminines that's never, it just gets passed down generation to generation to generation. And if you feel it like that, nine times out of 10, you probably the one supposed to break the cycle. But Mikey, I was at what 54 years old and realized I've never been in a healthy, long-lasting relationship in my life. That 54. And I ain't, I'm not ashamed, and I'm not ashamed.

SPEAKER_01 33:44

Listen, listen, listen.

SPEAKER_02 33:46

I know it's other people, I know it's other divine feminines out there that they the same way. They just never really thought about I'm like, I'm finna be 54, and I've never been, I've been in some long relationships. Yeah, we did just talk. I've been in some long relationships, but none of them healthy ever in my life.

Generational Patterns And Breaking Cycles

SPEAKER_01 34:10

No, no, no, I hear you. I respect that. And you know, that's part of um, as you mentioned, accountability and self-reflect and introspective, introspective, introspection, and retrospect, we're looking at things that we didn't see. Because you know, at the moment, human beings we're physical, physical creatures, like the feeling you want something to fill a void. And although again, though we know it's not good for us, we'll stay there because it becomes habitual for us. You know what I'm saying? Um and then we learn from like once we go through the trials and errors, we're back. We grow, we get on to the next, you know, and and throughout each relationship, we pick up, you know, see where our you know, our floor, I don't say our floor, our shortcomings that we try and fulfill will eventually show itself in our relationship. Any relationship, whether friendship, it will, romantic, it's it's gonna show. Nobody on on earth is walking around here. Nobody's gonna act. There's no perfect human being out there. Let's keep it real. And I and I think what leads to the what leads to the pain and anguishes that we go through in life is that we set we set like like uh unrealistic standards and expectations of our partners.

SPEAKER_02 35:27

Yeah, especially when we know we ain't we don't have that frequency ourselves and then we're gonna get out of somebody else. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:34

Yeah, we we can't do that. We gotta be realistic. Like, you know, you know, a lot of sisters out there and a lot of men out there tend to um we'll we'll go, we'll oh, shout out to the sister. Like we'll we'll we'll see what we see on television, like yo, relationship goals. I want that, I want that. You don't even know what's happening behind closed doors.

SPEAKER_02 35:54

You don't, and you don't know how much work that person put in to get to be where they at right now. You don't know what came before that. You don't know about the healing, the the shadow work, the you know how many heartbreaks um that they've had. They like they they don't they don't know that. And like you said, it's unrealistic. People are not realistic about, you know, they want something in someone else that they don't embody themselves.

SPEAKER_00 36:22

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 36:23

There's nobody that's gonna make you happy. There is no one that is happiness, it is an inside job. And I tell people that, and I think divine feminism, anybody that a lot of people, my lot of my people on here, y'all know I talk about this all the time. You keep dating the same frequency in a different body, and you can't figure out why you keep dating the same low frequency person in a different body. And I tell people, when this happens, this is like source trying to get your attention a gazillion times. I need you to work on yourself, I need you to do some healing because you're attracting the same person over and over and over again. We don't attract who we want, you can't be in a low frequency, aka desperate, aka I'm lonely, aka, I just want somebody to be here. That's low frequency. You can't be in that energy and expect to expect to attract somebody that's in a high frequency vibration. You don't attract what you want, you attract who you are, you're gonna attract a vibrational match. So if you still in that energy, you're going to continue to get that same energy in a different body. That's just how energy works. That's true. If you keep doing that, I again that's just God, in my opinion, trying to tell you, hey, why I need you to work on you right now. And once you do that, then I can send somebody in that's going to be in alignment with who you are when you move it in your higher self.

SPEAKER_01 37:58

Amen. Talk that talk, sister. You do your thing. You see, you disappeared for two years and came back with some fire. Um, why is it that you know, pain somehow, pain, being unforgiving, being angry, is somehow celebrated today. Like you see, like people encouraging, like, yeah, that's right. Behave that way. Do do this and that to that person. Why is it like celebrated? Why is that how you and I speak is you can tell somebody, yo, let that go. That's small, that's small talk. No, let that go. Just it's not worth it. They they feel offended by that, but they'd rather be angry. Why is that?

SPEAKER_02 38:35

I don't know. I think part of it is I'll say instant gratification. It's very quick and very easy to be mad because it's you know, and angry and upset and all those things. Because it's low, you know, anything that's low vibrational is easy. And it'll attack if you just if you just open the door just a little bit, it's like, okay, I'm in, you know, it's it's just like it's instant gratification. If you want to heal and get past pain, it takes work, and everybody don't want to put work in. If it ain't something that can't be fixed right now, you mean I gotta actually spend two weeks working on myself? Yes, because you got two years worth of trauma. You mean I actually gotta put some work in. I just can't say a few things and spray some and get some sage, and I'm good. No, that's not how this works. It doesn't work like that. And we're in a society now where everybody wants everything just like that.

SPEAKER_05 39:34

Instantly, instantly.

SPEAKER_02 39:35

Yeah, and and it, it's it's not, it's it's it's not gonna happen. I don't care what you do, I don't care how spiritual you claim to be, I don't care about any of that. It takes work to get past pain. Pain is like consider it like melanin. You know, they say melanin is a binding agent, and it whatever it gets a hold of, it just holds on to it. That's how pain is. If you just give it a crack, it's gonna come in and set up house. It's put putting in putting in furniture and oh kind of inviting folks over. Hey, misery, y'all want it? Sorrow, come on, I done moved in this whole house. Y'all come over here with me.

SPEAKER_01 40:11

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 40:12

And that's how I have a question.

SPEAKER_01 40:15

What methods can somebody take? What what what methods can one exercise if they want to get on that journey of healing? Like something practical for them. Like, say somebody comes to you, like you know, divine karma. I've been holding on to this pain for X amount of years. It's eaten away at me, it's affecting my my health. I can't develop any um healthy relationships with anyone, even myself. How can I what steps should I take, beloved?

SPEAKER_02 40:43

Two things I will say. I'm a certified Reiki master, so I do, you know, even virtual, right? I have a lot of clients that don't live around me, all of it is virtual. I will definitely tell somebody to get an energy healing. Um, because I have clients that come that they will book with me for weeks out and tell me, and I just, you know, if you just want an energy healing just to get some negative energy, that's cool. But if you've got something and they tell me, hey, you know, I've been battling with this, that, and the third, that's what I'm gonna focus on on the healing. The second thing I will say to do, people think going to therapy is for crazy people.

SPEAKER_01 41:19

It's so not I have going to therapy, trust me. It works, it works.

Standards, Self-Love, And Attraction

SPEAKER_02 41:26

It works, it's about finding a therapist that's a match for what you're trying to heal from. Like you don't want to go to find a therapist that, you know, I don't know, you don't have no childhood trauma, but you go to a childhood trauma therapist, but you really just trying to heal from relationships, right? It's about finding the right therapist for you. A therapist don't mean something's wrong with you, a therapist doesn't mean that you're crazy, it doesn't mean any of that. But if you want to find somebody that's going to be able to tap into your energy, because a therapist, when you find the right one, they're gonna push you to the limit. The things that you're scared to say to yourself, oh, you gonna say it to them if they good once out and then the elephant is uh you know, the elephant is in the room and you've left that out, then it can be dealt with. But that's you know, if you got a good therapist, it you're gonna be frustrated because you're gonna feel like you're trying to hold on. You don't want to tell it you have a good therapist, you're gonna let all that out, and then it can be handled. Those are my two, what I would say, the first two things get some energy healing or go see a therapist or do both. Those those are my top two. If you're trying to heal from some pain and and you know, some past relationship, or just some stuff you can't get rid of on your own.

SPEAKER_01 42:42

That's dope, right there. I say write it out too. Yes, yes, yes, hit the gym. Yeah, bad, go to the gun range, do something, but most importantly, go seek therapy and do not get stuck in echo chambers of people that's gonna keep spitting out negative things. Because one thing people will do, people will use you as a villain against yourself. This is why I know you know, even before I went to therapy, I was like, whatever negative things you can say about me, I don't have no issue disclosing with you. You're not gonna use that against me, right?

SPEAKER_02 43:14

No, right.

SPEAKER_01 43:15

So you can say whatever you want. It's not listen, stick you know, stick and stone and break bones worse never hurt me. No, it's not because if I'm telling you about something that's very dear to me, and I just try to disclose that with you, yeah. You trying to throw it in my face, it's not gonna work.

SPEAKER_02 43:29

Right. That's why I said finding yeah, finding the right therapist and who you around, your circle.

SPEAKER_01 43:34

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 43:35

One of the first journal, one of the first things you need to move into when you call yourself gonna work on yourself, you're gonna have to cut a whole bunch of people out of your circle. Whole bunch of people, and I tell folks it ain't about quality, uh, you know, quantity. You know, would you rather have a hundred idiots around you that's just gonna tell you what you want to hear, but ain't gonna, you know, about yourself, or would you rather have two good. Wrong people that you know, even when you're wrong, they're gonna tell you, hey, divine, you know, you kind of slipped on that one. You know, your circle is gonna get real small.

SPEAKER_01 44:11

Real you know, I learned you know what I learned about my journey. I I have learned in the past, it was my anger. People were learning how to use me against me. So what I had to do, I had to go to a place where I had to break my mind, almost to a point where I feel like, yo, I must cut myself to bleed because you're not gonna get anger out of me, no emotion out of me. Doesn't mean I don't care, it just means that I mastered my emotions. You know what I'm saying? I'll be disappointed, but to be angry to see me come out, no. Because that's just that comes from a place of just reacting. I had to learn how to process to respond.

SPEAKER_02 44:44

Yeah, and respond. Yep. Learning how to respond instead of react. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 44:48

Exactly. You know, and we gotta understand, you know, not everyone will have the same uh I don't want to say level of maturity, but level of understanding on things because some some people operating straight out of fear and survival, and some operating from a place of just like I haven't matured. I sus my my mind is stuck in my teenage phases, my teenage. You know what I'm saying? So you gotta forgive some people like that. So I'm I huh? Go ahead, what you're saying, sister.

SPEAKER_02 45:18

Yeah, no, I said I agree with you.

SPEAKER_01 45:21

Yeah, I think we have to. And the energy healing, like you speak about energy healing as far as like um Reiki. You do Reiki also.

SPEAKER_02 45:30

I'm a certified Reiki master, yes.

SPEAKER_01 45:32

Oh, true. See, I got this pain right here. I don't know what it is, man. Like I don't know what I'm carrying, but I gotta find out.

SPEAKER_02 45:41

But energy, people don't understand like energy and hatred and all those low free. I'm telling you, they'll fester up inside of you and damn near shut you down. And it will almost shut you down. So, but you know, everybody don't want to put the work in, Mikey. And there's people, and I'm okay with that. I used to be really get frustrated with people, like, why don't you want to be better?

SPEAKER_01 46:05

Some people don't want to, they don't, they're comfortable because they need that. That's a crutch for them. You know, some in it's a crutch, and it also takes away accountability.

SPEAKER_02 46:12

Yep, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 46:13

Because my thing is this what's gonna happen when that person that you so-called dislike somehow passes away. Well, what you gonna be going? I'm gonna hold on to this. The person is dead, you still holding on to that garbage.

SPEAKER_02 46:23

We gotta find somebody else to blame.

SPEAKER_01 46:24

Yeah, you maybe better go jump off a building. Yeah, I'm not, you know. I'm sorry to sound like that, but if you want to be bitter for years, and it's been like over 10 years you choose to be bitter, you need to look yourself in the mirror, open that medicine cabinet, and eat every goddamn pill. I'm saying this, right? Eat every goddamn pill and take yourself off this planet. Nobody wants to deal with that. I'm sorry it sounds so harsh, but nobody wants to deal with that.

SPEAKER_02 46:50

It's the truth, and then the person that you're mad at, like you said, might have been the transition, or if they still here, they don't even remember the situation that got y'all here, like they didn't went on with their life, and here you are over here, like you said, it's like I'm so angry.

SPEAKER_00 47:06

You know, I got a reason. I just want to hold on to this. I want to. This is my battle cry. I want to hold on to something that man, shut up. Yeah, nothing wrong with you, man. You just it's a sore loser.

Culture Wars, Submission, And The Union

SPEAKER_02 47:17

It is, and people don't want to they babe. Hey, this accountability and and really taking your part in the situation, it's I'm telling you, it's it's something else, and people people don't want to put the work in, and I let them be. I let them be. If I get somebody that I'm coaching and I feel like because I give them homework when you come back to your next session, you better have this homework done. And I feel like if you don't waste my time, don't waste my time. If you're here to tell, so for me to tell you you right, they did you wrong. You supposed to be mad at them. You got the wrong, you got the wrong coach. You got the wrong coach, because I'm I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna get inside. What did you do in all of this? And if you sit there and tell me, oh, it's all their fault, I ain't do nothing. Yeah, I'm not the coach for you. I'm not the coach for you.

SPEAKER_01 48:06

So I got another question. How like what habits can secure your emotional healing process? Like what habits can one develop after, like, we do the therapy and everything else? What can they do on their own?

SPEAKER_02 48:18

Self-care routines, and it looks different for everybody. I advise anybody, I don't care what your job is, what you do every day. First of all, start your day with self and whoever source is for you, your guides and angels, whatever that looks like for you. But if you can't give yourself 15 minutes at the beginning of your day to sit still, get quiet, listen to your meditation music, whatever that is for you, to really speak to yourself and connect with the divine and set intentions. People don't even realize you just you when you don't set intentions for your day, or at least have some kind of affirmations, you know what, I'm gonna have a good day. I don't care what crazy ass people do at work today. I ain't gonna let them disturb my peace. I'm gonna do my job, get my money, I'm gonna go home. You have to have some kind of something every morning, every day that you get up to set this energy. You set the tone for your day. So I take I tell people all the time if you want to do better with yourself, self-healing, self-love, your whole self-journey, setting intentions before you start your day is of utter importance. And I say the same thing at the end of your day. Sit down and do some reflecting at the end of the day. Sit down and ask yourself, spend 10, 15 minutes. What did I do today that was dumb as damn hell that I really need to do better at? And be honest with yourself. But on that flip side, man, I handled such and such really good today. I had a good day at work today. Talking to yourself, affirmations. You know, I'm heavy on affirmations.

SPEAKER_01 49:54

Gratitude.

SPEAKER_02 49:54

Yeah, vision boards. I'm the I'm a vision board queen. I'm gonna do like my fourth vision board. But your intentions don't focus on so much what's wrong, right? Acknowledge it. So you know, if your money a little funny right now, it's okay. Acknowledge that, but don't focus on the problem. You want to focus on where you're trying to be. Yes, I need some more money because these bills are piling up, all right? Do your affirmations, man. I know something's gonna come through, but these are the this is the way that you heal yourself and don't get focused on the past or the future, right? They say if you focus too much on your past, it makes you have a lot of regrets and anxiety, you know. If you focus too much on the future, you get anxious because then you'll be like, Oh my gosh, how when is that supposed to happen? Because I ain't I ain't even halfway there yet. Being a now stay in the present moment, acknowledge everything else, that's cool, but stay in the present. What can you do right now, this second today? To put you in a higher vibration to move in your higher self. What can you do right now today to do that? We worry about tomorrow when it gets here, right? Those my little those my tips that I use for myself.

SPEAKER_01 51:12

That's dope. I'm I'm glad you said that. I'm glad you said that. Very much appreciated. And I and no, we spoke earlier. You said you got a new book, right? I'm gonna put the description of the book now that you have.

SPEAKER_02 51:25

It ain't new, it's been I've had it. I wrote that when I marriage, yeah. And but um, I haven't promoted it on your show. But I've had good sales on that book. Um, it's called I Know You Wanna Strangle Him, but dot dot dot, and I know y'all love the title, right? Um it's on Amazon. It's a short read. It's a short read, it's like 80 or 90 pages, and it come you can get a journal as well. But I wrote this when I came out of my uh 15-year marriage, um, and um wrote it because I was lost, and I know I'm not the only divine feminine that I didn't know who I was without him because I was so focused on him. We divorced and I was on my own. Like I and I've told people this, I'm very transparent. I was um suicidal at one point, I was suicidal at one point because I didn't I didn't know who I was outside of his wife, and that's why I wrote this book because I wrote what helped me get my swag back, get my self-confidence back, man. Just get myself back, of course. So get the book. I think it's only like$11.11. And uh it's just my journey, what helped me to get because people really they be like, You was what my clients be like, no, I'd be like, Y'all don't even know.

SPEAKER_01 52:48

Oh C says it's just a little what's he saying, yeah, don't strangle the man, even though you want to. Yeah, yeah, don't don't strangle the man. Sometimes you want to strangle him, but I was gonna ask you, did you strangle him?

SPEAKER_02 52:58

Yeah, that's how we that's how we feel. Uh and I want to strangle him, and but you know what? When I got to that accountability chapter, that accountability chapter knocked me on my ass because I really, really, really had to have some conversations with myself and be honest with myself. Divine sourced and shot red flags, uh fireworks, all and you just kept going back.

SPEAKER_01 53:26

So you know, that's not it's a fact because you know, there's times men do get there, and you know, I'm gonna marry a book, I'm gonna I'm gonna write my own version. Sometimes I want to be OJ. But anyway, um hilarious. No, but you know, I I get it, it it's patience, and and you know, I respect you for making it out of that dark place of suicide. Yeah, you know, because some relationships can't do that to you, especially if you lose track of yourself. And this is why Mose is the she's the biggest proponent of this, and she always still listening to me. No, I almost veered off a path one time. She said, Um don't love anyone more than you love yourself. It sounds selfish just saying it, but it's some it's a fact. You can't love somebody more than you love yourself. Doesn't mean that you mistreat them, it means that you don't lose yourself. This is why in relationships I had in the past, you know, people should be like, but that sounds mean. I used to I used to tell them the same thing, and I used to be like, do not forget who you are because you're with me. If if you are a person that like to go out and hang out with your friends, you had your hobbies, don't stop that because of me. You know what I'm saying? This is not Sonic and Tales. You know what I'm saying? Don't lose track of yourself. Continue having your interests, continue having your freedom of going out with your friends and stuff. Yes, I'm not the person that's gonna control you, but yo, what time you're getting home, who you're going with, this and that. Listen, you're not my you're not my property. I don't own you, you don't own me. Oh my god, we're too consent, we're two consent adults here. Yeah, you understand? But some people feel like you know, in lawyer for a relationship to grow, you gotta have control over your partner.

Daily Habits For Emotional Stability

SPEAKER_02 55:05

You don't, and that's such a problem. And I what you just said, kudos, brother, because you don't hear a lot of divine masculine say what you just said, like you don't, and I tell people because I did it, I lost who I was with him, and we do it, we do it, we get it, and we just focus on the relationship, and you forget your individuality, you know, and man, I still had shit I wanted to do before I met you. I still need to do that shit, you know what I'm saying? And I had shit you wanted to do before we got together, and I'ma tell you if it's a healthy relationship, man, y'all have them conversations and a divine feminine, a true divine feminine, her goddess energy. You talk about a goddess frequency when your divine masculine and that god body is moving in that frequency. I got things that I need to do. We are here for support. Divine feminine, we've gotten out of our roles. We got these people running, women running around talking about they feminist, and we don't need no man and all this extraness.

SPEAKER_01 56:09

Let me ask you guys.

SPEAKER_02 56:11

I I've heard Steve Harvey say one day he was talking, he was like, 'Women, you could always go read how to put a new transmission in your car and figure it out and take all that time.' But why would you want to if you got a uh a man with you that can do that for you? Like, like Divine Feminine, we have to support our God bodies, right? And I'm not talking about just any man as I'm talking about a true man moving in his in his high frequency self, support him, right? It's supposed to be support with each other. We got into this energy where you know, I don't need no man, and we I'm an independent woman. Yeah, I'm telling you something, y'all get away from me with all that. Now, don't get me wrong, I've been single for two years and I hold my own down now. But am I saying that you know, if a god body comes my way and he's in that who wants to be single? They hold like who?

SPEAKER_01 57:09

Nobody, nobody, even men. Listen, I see it now. There's there's men in my family that are alone, and I'd be like, you know what? Due to circumstances, things didn't work out for them. And I see how it looks, like you know, to have somebody say you love them or whatsoever, you don't have that, you know, and that's the old way of thinking with relationships or having a mate must come to an end. We gotta have the highest form of love is understanding. We gotta have an understanding of love where you're my mate. It's none of that I'm above you, you're above me. Nah, we we're doing this together.

SPEAKER_04 57:47

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 57:47

Neither stop, and you know, people need to stop listening to these crazy online antics of relationships and all these gender wars. That is destroying, that is destroying the institution of marriage and love. It is and and people, like again, people have their own um you know shortcomings. No one no one is on earth on perfect. Like, I don't expect my woman to be, yo, I want you to be like a clear huxtable and this and that. Listen, you are who you are. I met you who you are. You know what I'm saying? I I'll work through your things just like you work through my thing. You may not like the way I walk. You may like damn baby, clip your damn toenails. Uh you're over here cutting up the sheets and all that. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 58:20

Like you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 58:23

But we gotta learn how to we gotta learn how to work with our mate. You know what I'm saying? Not saying you stay if you're unhappy, you know. Don't stay there if you're unhappy, right?

SPEAKER_02 58:32

Confirm.

SPEAKER_01 58:33

Don't stay. Yeah, you do you don't stay there. But wait, somebody has a question, they say yes, and then men start to perceive you as their mom.

SPEAKER_02 58:40

That's that imbalance.

SPEAKER_00 58:43

Absolutely said this.

SPEAKER_02 58:45

That's that imbalance I'm talking talking about, and and it happens, it happens. Even sometimes we don't even realize that it that it happens. Um, I have this image, and I'm gonna have an artist draw it up for me of what I think a divine divine relationship should be like, because I hear people throw words around like being submissive. First of all, yeah, and a woman should not be submissive to talk about it. They should be submissive to the union because if it's a divine union, divinely guided, be submissive to the union. That means be submissive to we both working on ourselves, you know what I'm saying? We still have our own individuality, like that's being what you should be submissive to. But uh I'll always have this if you think of a pyramid, top of the pyramid is God's source, Allah, Buddha, whoever that is for you, at the top of this pyramid, at the bottom of the two angles, you have you and your person now on each side, right? On each side now, you this pyramid, you still have your individuality because you two are separate, but that bottom line still connects you to each other to the union, but together y'all still connected to source, right? That is that's I call I don't I you know I call it like my divine, you know, divine pyramid relationship or whatever. But that's how when I think of what uh true relationship should be like, that's how it should be. Y'all submissive to the union, both to connected to source, but you still have your individuality, I still have mine, but we are submissive to this divinely guided relationship that source has bestowed upon us, and that's how it's supposed to be.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:27

Oh my god, see, I could keep you here forever talking about this stuff. This stuff is so great because no, we do need these, we do need these conversations because you know we get lost. I know on this platform, you know, people are accustomed to hearing more science, you know, nation of Islam, masonry, other things. But these are these are topics we need to talk about because there's a lot of um, pardon my language, a lot of fuckery going on out there. It is where people are listening to these these nut jobs out there that are proclaiming to be some kind of teacher or whatsoever, and they're giving people some crazy information, like submissive. When I hear that word submit, right? It does trigger people, but then as you put it, you submit to the union.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:08

Submitted.

The Book, The Journey, And Survival

SPEAKER_01 1:01:10

I don't look at my lady like yo, you gotta you're under me, what I say must go, and no one should do the same thing to me. It's because if not, it's gonna be a bunch of you know arguing and yelling a bunch of D words flying, and that's not we nobody has time for that. No, I've been in I've been in relationships in my you know come coming up where I felt like when I look back at it now, I I was like, what the hell was I doing? No, no, no, in all reality, I'm not and I'm not slighting, no ex because I'm not immature like that. No, right. It's just that some things were not, you know, we didn't see the red flags within each other. It was just a thing at the moment. We felt that you know we were doing the right thing, but we really didn't have a foundation, yeah. Or you know, understanding it was just rushed, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because we enjoy each other's company. Well, you know, as you get older and they acquire more wisdom, you'd be like, Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:02

Yeah, and and I think we go through that, you know. I I truly think we go through certain situationships to prepare us for that one, you know, our divine counterpart. I truly believe that, you know, if you just if you think back about all the I'll I'll use bad for just the term, you know, for the sake of the conversation, but you know, bad relationships before you get with or got with the, you know, you know that's your divine counterpart. Just think of all the lessons that you learned. If you didn't learn a lot of those lessons, you wouldn't have even been prepared to deal with or be in a situation in with your true person. So I tell people a lot, especially divine feminines, you know, we go through a lot, you know, not to say masculines don't, but divine feminists on this planet right now in this time, it's a lot, it's a lot. But if you look at it, everything that you've gone through, I look at it as, you know, I went through all of that so I can be healed. So when this divine counterpart is put in my life, I know how to move. I ain't gonna have this, all this envy and jealousy and hate. I can't trust them. I want to know what um, yeah. I don't want all of that, and all of this that I went through up till I meet him has prepared me to be able to deal with that, to be my the best version of my divine feminine self, to be to know to be there for him and be submissive to our union. And I tell divine feminines, look at it's like this is just training. Everybody else was it was just training for you, love. That's all it was.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:39

Yeah, you know what's I'm glad you said that because um I wish I wish I was playing that record from Erica Badu bag lady beat in the background because that's when listen to that song. Not only ladies, men too. I'm telling you, people bringing old baggage into relationships, they're they residue of mental anguish and hurt and everything, and you expecting your new partner to somehow heal you, or you or they suffering for they suffering for what somebody in the past did to them, and you're putting them through the you're putting them through the ring, which is unfair.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:09

Like because you didn't want to do the work, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:12

And then you wonder why people get up and leave. Well, because you I've done things like that before. Middle of the night, they're like, Where you going? I'm like, oh that was it. Like, I can't do this no more.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:22

Yeah, I've done a couple dip outs in the middle of the night as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:26

I can't do it. Oh, you they go to work, they'd be like, Yeah, where he at? Like, listen, I ain't coming back. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:32

Like, this I I can't do it, no, no, and you and you shouldn't, because it's not fair to you or the other person, and we do. We are we are Erica Badu, that's one of my favorite songs by her. And when I was young, I didn't at first I didn't understand what she was saying. I was like, Oh, she's saying all this baggage from past relationships. Yeah, you gotta dump that baggage off somewhere. You gotta dump that baggage off somewhere because you can't take it into a divine union, and some people be in their own heads.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:01

And before I go, like, I used to go through this thing where it be like, you don't like to argue because I learned that I used to do it before, but I don't have the energy to argue. Because now, before, like, we're both at it, you know, we we be we be so high in our anger, nobody's thinking correctly. So you catch me now, before it gets to that level, I slow down my breathing, and I just look at the person and go like, what are they angry at? What did I do? And I'll be like, you know, I'm quick to say, and I do mean sincerely, I apologize if I offended you, but that was not my intention. That was not my intention. It continued to go on. I don't know what else to tell you, but I'm telling you, this is what it is.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:40

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:40

I'm not gonna react, I'm gonna respond to you.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:43

Divine feminist watching this, let me tell you something. That right there, that's a that's a sign if you're dealing with a uh a true guy body that's moving in the right frequency in a divine masculine. Yeah, tell you that because sometimes they might that and I'm gonna tell you something. Takes a lot sometimes for a man, especially when they don't a lot of times they don't have a clue what they done said to offend us. Get a little off our rocker sometimes. So sometimes they don't even know. But for them to just stop and say, I don't if I offended you by something I said or did, I didn't know it wasn't intentional, and I apologize. Can we talk about it? I need you to step all the way back in your divine feminine goddess body and sit down and have a conversation with your guy, with your man, all right? Because that's his way of telling you. I'ma put it in hood in hood language for you.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:38

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:39

I don't know what the idea. Why the hell are you playing techniques?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:43

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:45

Whatever it is, babe. I'm sorry. Will you want to talk about it? Let me know what it is that I did so I can, you know, fix it and not do it again. But I don't even know what I did. But um, we can talk about it. That's what that means.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:59

Exactly. No, no, it's true. Before we go, I'm gonna put I'm gonna put up your book one time. And for those who are listening and watching, the link for the book will be on the YouTube page in the description. You could go there and purchase her book. And I believe it's a good, you know, it's a dope book. I got so many books that I have to finish reading. I'm gonna put your book up here again so they can know the title.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:21

Three books right now, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:23

It's called I Know You Wanna Strangle Him, but dot dot dot a self-help guide for women after a divorce or long-term relationship by Mitri Adkinson. That's what it is, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:07:35

Yep, that BB, BB on Amazon, and it has a journal, a 90-day journal, um, as well. If you want to purchase the journal, whether it's the journal's got some good prompts, you know, some self-healing techniques, some things to ask yourself and work on yourself. Yep, yep, yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:49

All right, before and you gotta help me write my book. Sometimes she makes you want to turn it into OJ. Sometimes I want to be Ike Turner. I know.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:03

I know it's on both ends, but you know what? You know, that's why we had these talks. That's that's why we have these talks, Mikey. And you, you know, I've been rocking with you for a minute now, so I do know, you know, I know you knew you move in your God body energy. Very, very true.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:19

So very man, I you know, I listen, I wanna when I was young and so all the women I dated, apologies if things didn't work out because we were young and stupid, and I was young and stupid on my part. I I take accountability for that. But now every everything is good. And I think both men and women need to apologize to each other. Forgive yourself first and forgive the people. Don't hold that against them. Don't be a person that's gonna hate the opposite sex. That's the worst place to be.

Communication Over Ego

SPEAKER_02 1:08:47

Yeah, don't, don't, don't do it. And divine feminines, I'll give y'all a tip that I give a lot of my divine feminine clients when you're trying to move into your higher self. Write a letter to the old version of yourself from your higher self's perspective. Forgive your, forgive that person, write a letter to the old version of you. I hate you went through this. I'ma send you on your journey in peace. I forgive you. You healed past this. I'm telling you, do it. I've done it so many times. I've had clients do it. Write a letter to the old version of yourself that went through all the things and release that energy, release them with love, release the energy. I slept with it under my pillow, pillow, and I got up and burned it the next day. Some people say they went and put it in the ocean, whatever you want to do with it. It's you know your choice. Burn it, put it in the water, whatever you want to do with it. But I'm telling you, when you acknowledge sometimes your ego in that lower version of yourself, it just wants you to acknowledge that this happened. And it's okay to do that from your higher self. Hey, I acknowledge it. I know this, I'm just moving in a different frequency now. So acknowledge it and send it on its way peacefully so you can make space for this better version of you, so you can attract who's in alignment with you, the God body in alignment with that high frequency and vibration into your life.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:11

Dimitri, you gotta come back, my beloved. We gotta get you back on here and talk about this. We gotta have a part two because you know, yeah, we we we need this in that within the community, and because you know, a lot of people it's getting bad out here. I see it. I hear I heard like friends within my age group, both men and women, who are talking about the dating pool. They're like, what the hell is out there? You understand?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:35

And we still out there, divine God bodies. You still have some very in-tune divine feminines out here that that are willing to uh man support you, build what you you know, build a legacy with you. So just know that you know, we still out here. You might gotta search a little bit, but we still here.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:56

That's a fact. And with that being said, don't forget to comment, like, share, subscribe, people. We got super chats. You go out there, pick up Cometri's book, you know, you get a good read out of it, and you know, working yourselves, peace and love to my brothers, peace and love to my sisters, most importantly. And we gotta, you know, basically we gotta work together, man, to uplift our people. That being said, Comitri, peace and love, and YP, we out.