Divine Warning: Current Events & WW3

World War III gets framed like it starts overseas, but we keep seeing the same warning signs at home: division, dependence, and moral drift. We sit down with Moriel Smith El to unpack Noble Drew Ali’s Divine Warning and why it lands so hard right now, especially when the news cycle is full of conflict, propaganda, and people looking for someone to blame.

We get specific about what “divine warning” means in real life: political cohesion, a free national name, and the kind of free national standards that actually hold a community together. That takes responsibility, not slogans. We talk family structure, marriage, building family businesses, and why economic independence shapes spiritual strength. We also dig into the early 1900s context, including Chicago’s organized ethnic neighborhoods, and how labels that point back to slavery can feed fragmentation today.

Then we move from history to strategy. We connect modern global tensions to manufacturing power, China’s role in supply chains, tariffs, and the nearshoring push toward Mexico and Canada. We discuss why “moral high ground” matters in geopolitics, what the rise of the global south and BRICS signals, and how a community can build leverage by “nationalizing science” through trades, STEM education, and real institutions. We also break down practical projects like community gardening and Wallapini underground greenhouses, plus big-picture ideas like AI, blockchain, and a parallel network economy.

If you’re tired of endless debates and ready for blueprint talk, tap in, share this with someone who builds, and leave a review. What’s the first institution you think we should put our energy into?

Transcript

Welcome And Tonight’s Big Topic

SPEAKER_03 0:11

Peace world, how you doing? Welcome to another episode of NYP Talk Show. I am your good brother and co-host, Mikey Fever. It's been a minute. Don't forget to comment, like, share, and subscribe. We got super chat. We have merch on our website. This is the coolest, I should say the most coolest dominant podcast within this space here. We got in this game on our own merit, and we just here to spread love and do what we gotta do. Tonight we got a special guest, Moriel Smith L. The good brother from the uh Maury Science Temple of America.

SPEAKER_02 0:47

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_03 0:48

Yes, sir. And tonight's topic would be divine warning, current events in World War III. How are you feeling, my brother?

SPEAKER_02 0:55

Man, feeling blessed. Feeling blessed. Uh, you know, fasting right now for the holy month of Ramadan. So, you know, in a place of transformation.

What “Divine Warning” Really Means

SPEAKER_03 1:03

Oh, that's peace, man. That's peace. That's peace. That's peace, yo. Peace to Islam to the brothers out there that are practicing that are fasting. Alamalakum to the Muslims out there that are fasting within this season of Ramadan. Blessings on your journey. That's peace. So tonight, brother, we're gonna get we're gonna get into it, man. You know, brother Ron will be joining us shortly. Speaking that, we as you see the current space that we're in right now, the whole world's under this current space, right? And his current events and his um talks of you know, rumors of war, actually, war taking place right now. So it's amongst us. Let's make this connection. Understanding noble Drew Ali, divine warning. Can you break that down for us? What exactly did noble drew Ali mean by divine warning by the prophet for the nation?

SPEAKER_02 1:51

Um, first off, I want to, you know, rise and give perfect praise to Allah, honest to noble Drew Ali. Um, honest to Marcus Garvey, and honest to my leadership, Keith Danders Hell. But I think um what the prophet means by divine warning is really understanding that you know the prophet's duty to the nation is to save nations from the wrath of Allah. So this divine warning was not only for you know, us Asiatics, Moorish Americans, African Americans, have you see it, but it was also just for the nation as a whole. Like understanding is that we go down, keep continue down this path, the worst is yet to come, you know. And this is not only this is not something he's pulling out of thin air, this is a civilizational pattern that across time that you know as nations start to get what's good, y'all.

SPEAKER_01 2:43

What's good? Uh run.

SPEAKER_02 2:46

Yeah. So you know, it's it's a pattern, it's a pattern across time is that as nations right rise and then you know get into luxury and things like that, they no longer have the same hunger, the same openness, they become arrogant, they become hubris like so you know was trying to warn America, not only Moorish Americans, but America as a whole, that if we continue to go down this path, you know, we're gonna become fragmented and on the decline.

SPEAKER_03 3:12

It definitely is basically shaping up, man. Get it together, pay attention, be caught, be um conscious of what's around you, what's taking place, study the atmosphere, what you're feeling out there. Okay, I respect that. So um, as far as two is who was the warning directed towards America, Europe, or oppressed people worldwide?

SPEAKER_02 3:32

Um, you know, it was a universal message, of course. Again, right? The prophet is talking to Moorish Americans, he's talking to America as a whole because he's saying he's looking for all true American citizens that stand for a free national government to help me in my great work, you know, of advancing what he was doing with the Moore Science Temple of America. So he was talking to you know all the different nations that make up this melting pot of America, which then, because he's talking to different nations, it became a global message as well. Got you.

SPEAKER_01 4:03

Gotcha. All right, I don't know. Yep, pardon me, pardon me, pardon me, pardon me. Uh um uh first off, uh great to have you this evening, uh, Morel, Moriel, Smith L, uh, and Mikey Fever. I haven't been on in a while. I haven't been on a while. I'm back, I'm back, I'm back. It's been like a month or some change, right?

SPEAKER_03 4:22

Likewise, man. Thank you. All of us, man. Thanks for word, word.

SPEAKER_01 4:26

Thanks to Mikey Fever for holding me down for the past few weeks. Uh, but I want to ask a question now. Um, what exactly? I don't know if Mikey Fever you asked this, but uh, what exactly did no joali mean by the divine warning by the prophet for the nations?

SPEAKER_03 4:43

Oh, we we we got into that. We got into that. We broke it down. We I think we're up at number three.

unknown 4:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:50

Number three.

SPEAKER_03 4:51

Yeah.

Who The Warning Is For

SPEAKER_01 4:51

All right. So uh how does the divine warnings fit into the teaching of Morris Science Temple of America?

SPEAKER_02 4:59

Divine warning fit into the teachings of the Morris Science Temple of America is because you know, the first part of the warning, the prophet is warning us that, you know, without our free national name, without us building free national standards, without us having, you know, internal cohesion, we're gonna become more fragmented over time, and we're gonna become uh you know, continue to have and deal with mental slavery, political slavery, economic slavery, right? And this is what you see today, right? Um, as time has gone on, we have become more dependent on the people that we feel are oppressing us here in this country, right?

SPEAKER_01 5:43

Right. So uh basically more self-sufficient was the prophet trying to you know have us be come, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:54

So, you know, man, some of the main things are again understanding, you know, developing a co, you know, a coherent national identity, us understanding wait wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.

National Cohesion And Political Strength

SPEAKER_01 6:03

Developing a coherent national identity, explain that.

SPEAKER_02 6:08

Yes, so with that being said, right? When you look at any let's just take more out of the equation, right? Let's look at let's look at a country like China. Let's look at how they went through the opioid wars and how the opioid wars that you know Britain laced them up with kind of fractured their country, and then you had you know rulers like Mao, who was coming together to bring the nation back onto a unified front, right? And that takes building an institution, that takes having a goal, that takes understanding where what we're doing now was gonna lead to the future. So with Nobu Drew Ali teaching us about our history, teaching us about who we are, is for us to understand what can be possible moving forward. So once we understand what can be possible moving forward, we're able to move better politically. Any nation, this is not just a rule for the Moorish size temple of America or Moorish Americans. Any nation who don't have some type of cohesion cannot be strong politically, they can't strategize together, they can't set goals for the future, they can't move in an upward direction without political cohesion. So, this is this is a rule throughout time, throughout nations, kingdoms, empires, however you want to look at it. So uh basically unifying the temple itself is is a big part of this 100 unifying the temple is a big part of this because if the if we remain fractured, we can't push our agenda or our initiatives to build institutions to preserve all of the great things that is about the temple, right now.

SPEAKER_01 8:01

Can you explain? Go ahead, you were getting ready to say something.

SPEAKER_02 8:03

Oh, you go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 8:04

So, can you explain the great things that you know of about the temple? Man, that the prophet set up.

SPEAKER_02 8:11

Yeah, there's a lot of great things about the temple again. Understanding who we are as Martian Americans, the prophet always emphasized that you know we descend from the founders of civilization, right? And that our ancestors not only you know did it once, but we paved civilization several times. So, what we're really talking about when we're looking at civilization, we're talking about science, we're talking about engineering. So, what's great about us is about us being Moorish Americans is that our ancestors left a track record of manuscripts for us to get better at farming, for us to get better at engineering, for us to get better at medicine, for us to be self-sufficient within ourselves, right? So, the great things about the Moore Science Temple of America, no boo drawly also said that, right? The Moors were the most ingenious and industrious subjects of Spain, subjects of Spain, right? So industrious national nations, what gives nations leverage and power is leveraging key industries, for example, Taiwan, computer chips, right? Taiwan is leveraging their knowledge of computership, computer chips to kind of put a wedge between their national identity and cohesion between China, right? Because even though they're right next to each other, people from Taiwan feel that they have a certain and different outlook on life that may be similar to Chinese people, but in their own different way, or even just look at Japan, who's also right there, right? The Japanese have a different world outlook than the Chinese, and that informs how they build institutions, how they organize socially, how they organize economically, how they even live day-day mentally, right? So everything when the prophet is talking about free national standards, it is standards that will lead us to have sustainability as a nation.

SPEAKER_01 10:12

Standards. So free national standards have uh will give us say that again. Repeat that.

SPEAKER_02 10:18

I'll put it another way. It is free national standards that will give us the power to sustain our nation, the power to sustain our nation. Yes, okay.

SPEAKER_01 10:27

Can you give some examples?

Free National Standards In Daily Life

SPEAKER_02 10:29

Let's go back to education. Matter of fact, let's run it back, let's go back to family structure, right? Chapter, um, I want to say, is it 21 to 22 in the more science temple of Holy Quran and the more science temple of America, and how a husband and the wife should interact with one another. Marriage is the institution of Allah for a reason, is because when you are married to someone, you're dealing with somebody's life, emotions, and experience day to day. And what does that do to you? It makes you more empathetic, it makes you more loving, it makes you more serviceable. These are then traits that you can pass on to the rest of your family, and then also right. So, like that's that's that's as simple as having a strong family core because the family is the backbone of the nation, right? Then another standard, okay. Now that we have a family, we need to now to start to establish a family business. What are we known for as a family? What are we giving back to our community as a family, right? Which then now plays into the ecosystem of the entire community. Because now, as we're giving something, now we're also getting something back from also the same strong families that are living under the same principles of love, truth, peace, freedom, and justice.

SPEAKER_03 11:53

Right, that's that's peace, right? That's dope, right there. That's dope.

SPEAKER_01 11:57

For sure, for sure. Now, um, let's go to on to the next question. Um, was noble drew Ali speaking about spiritual uh consequences, political consequences, or both when we're dealing with a divine warning?

SPEAKER_02 12:16

Both, you know. Uh Noble Drew Ali said the problems in life are largely social and economic, in a more profound sense, they're moral and spiritual, right? So, understanding that how we do business or how business is done is tied to the spirit and the morality of a people. He also said that a beggar nation cannot arrive to the highest spiritualities in life. Why is that, right? Because freedom, freedom is more so about responsibility than any other thing, right? We've been we've been basically you know given this propaganda that freedom is about being wild, freedom is about responsibility. So if we are to be free as a nation, that means we are responsible for educating our children, we are responsible for giving our people jobs, we are responsible for creating a workforce, we are responsible for healing our people, we are responsible for feeding our people, farming our own food, having our own clothes, having our own manufacturing. That's what freedom is. Freedom is about the responsibility, and that's why we get treated like minorities. It's because we are dependent up. Racism only works if you're dependent upon the racists for the necessities of life.

SPEAKER_03 13:34

That's a fact. We're consumers, not distributors, not providers.

SPEAKER_02 13:38

Because anything else, they would just be a hater. We understand how haters operate in our community. We don't depend on haters, but we depend on haters as a collective now.

Why 1920s Chicago Matters

SPEAKER_03 13:49

All right, that makes sense. That makes sense, right? So um, so how how did the conditions in the 1920s influence the message of the divine warning?

SPEAKER_02 13:58

Man, and you know, I think that is a key that most people may overlook because 1920 Chicago, you know, there's actually a uh Morris literature that talks about so this is Chicago, and how that, you know, what will happen to the Asiatics of the world will happen, will first happen here in Chicago. Looking at how Asiatics were living in every endeavor of political, social, and economic life in Chicago at that time. You had brothers that owned banks, brothers that you know uh were politicians, brothers that have their own businesses, all of these different enterprises and opportunities that were happening in Chicago at that own time. And then you also have to look at what was going on with other nationalities of people, right? Um, you know, I'm from Chicago, so Chicago is still about as segregated as it is now as it probably was back then. So back then you had China, you had your Chinatowns, your little Italy's, right? Your Jew towns, Polish towns, all these different subset neighborhoods of different peoples of different nationalities. So as the prophet is seeing these things develop, right? It was only right for us as a people to start to develop the same things for ourselves.

SPEAKER_01 15:19

Okay, okay. Now, um, in the divine warning, this is um kind of off the cuff. Um, in the divine warning, what's the content in there exactly? I've read over it, skimmed through it a little bit, yeah. Um, and as I'm going through my own, you know, studies right now, which I'm studying a whole lot, um, I'll I'll I'll I'll eventually get to the divine warning, but what is in the content?

SPEAKER_02 15:49

The content of the divine warning first talks about how, like, um, again, the importance of us having our free own free national name and answering to the free national constitution and how it's a sin for any group of people to cling to the names that dilute to slavery when you live in a free country. And then it also talks about and get into the history of how you know the 14th and 15th amendment actually, you know, brought the South and the North back to the Union in unit, and that those were the reasons why the 14th and 15th Amendment, you know, were put in place, not to free us as a people, because the prophet is saying, you know, if the free national constitution swing door swing it open to all doors of all people since 1774, then there's no need for a law to make you free. All right, so our people again, even up to this very day, started to internalize the hate speech, the dehumanization of the setup of the pigmentocracy of this dichotomy of black and white.

SPEAKER_03 16:59

That's a fact. Okay, we see it today, Ron. We see it today amongst our people, this whole FBA versus Yeah, African contest with Africans and Caribbean people.

SPEAKER_02 17:12

That's what the prophet is warning about fragmentation, clinging on to names that delude to slavery, which doesn't bring no cohesion, right? So, you know, us understanding this is why what the prophet did is so important. It's like now we're able to trace ourselves back, and once we're able to trace ourselves back, we can see the connection in the diversity. There's nothing wrong with diversity, but to see the connection in the diversity because Allah has won.

World War I Era And Lost Direction

SPEAKER_01 17:42

Got you. Um, how did the aftermath of world one world war one shape Noble Joali's message to America and the world?

SPEAKER_02 17:52

Interesting question. I think that you know, with that being said, there were a lot of different Asiatics.

SPEAKER_01 17:59

Wait, real quick, real quick before you go into it.

SPEAKER_02 18:01

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:02

World War I was in 1914, right?

SPEAKER_02 18:05

Yep, 1914, 1915, that area, right? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:09

So that's right before Noble Drew Ali established the Morris Science Temple. Just wanted to put that out there.

SPEAKER_02 18:15

The prophet established it in 1913.

SPEAKER_01 18:18

Yeah, 1913, yeah, yeah, yeah. Very pivotal, right there.

SPEAKER_02 18:22

Yeah, so right around that same time, right?

SPEAKER_01 18:24

Right.

SPEAKER_02 18:25

So the and I think the the great thing about that is at that same time, you have different, you know, pan-Africanist um and indigenous movements against colonialism at that time, right? You have uh, for example, right, Deuce Muhammad Ali, who created uh part of making like I think the Orientalists, right? And the Orientalist newspaper was again giving perspectives on our brothers and sisters across the diaspora that were dealing with colonialization. So, as we were going into this modern era, is when you see Asiatic start to speak out. So, and then even looking at what was happening in America, right? You got uh Booker T. Washington up for slavery, you got this thing called the Negro problem going on at the turn of the century. All of all of these things play into the environment of the need of us now, okay. Now that we are X amount of years removed from slavery and that we are free to do what we need to do as a nation and as a people, we need to now get some direction. Because without knowing your future, I mean, without knowing your past, you can't really understand your future. If I take away every day that you lived before today, how are you gonna live tomorrow? You're not oriented, you have no direction. So the prophet and what he's doing is bringing back our direction. Um, which takes me to this other point. I had a mentor send me, I don't know if y'all are familiar. Martin Luther King said this in his speech, but I'm pretty sure you guys are familiar with the phrase of like pulling yourself up from your own bootstraps, bootstraps, yeah, yeah, right. And then Martin Luther King was saying, like, well, it's it's crazy to tell a bootless man to pull himself up from his bootstraps. But when you understand as a people that you know, we probably invented the bootstrap, right? We invented the boot, right? Now we can create our own boot from whatever materials that we have, which is how we've been living since time immemorial, right? When you look at how you know people in the saw hill desert create mud brick houses, which then is cooling in the middle of the desert. Like, we've always learned how to live around our environment. That's just how we got here in the first place, you know. Like, so we talk about like how our people were forced-fed pork, but then they ate watermelon to flesh out the system, right? All these different knowledges about understanding our environment is who we are. So all we have to do is just go back, it's a mindset shift, right?

SPEAKER_03 20:58

I want to add on to that too. It was so pivotal at that moment between 1913 and 1915. That's when the U.S. was invading multiple countries at one time. It went from Haiti DR, um, the Virgin Island at that point, and parts of, I believe, Nicaragua. They were invading at the time, parts of Central America. So it's very pivotal. He noble J Raleigh's vision was to speak on that and to try to bring unification to say that people that are melanated are being invaded by European nations.

SPEAKER_01 21:27

Well, let me let me add to this, right? So I've been looking at that. If you if you're if you're in the nation of Islam or the 5% nation, 1914 is a interesting uh year because according to the to 120, that's the uh year the devil uh I forgot expires, pardon me. Um the devil times time is up or expires. Um and um start of the World War I is 1914. Um New United States neutrality was led by Woodrow Woodrow Wilson.

SPEAKER_03 22:06

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 22:08

What else was happening? International law and neutral rights. International law governing war and neutrality in 1914 came largely from the Hague uh Convention of 1899 and 1907. There was a lot of a lot going on around that time. These agreements tried to these agreements tried to regulate conduct during war, rights of neutral countries, treatment of prisoners of war, protection of civilians, rules of naval, naval blockades. Anyway. I could go on and on and on. If you do the research, oh yeah, the Panama Canal opens. Yep. 1914. So a lot was happening around 1914, 13, 15. Yep. And uh when when the prophet you know came and gave us the uh Moorish Science Temple. Anyway, uh continue, my bad.

SPEAKER_03 23:09

Um, did the prophet foresee the rise of future conflicts like World War II?

SPEAKER_02 23:16

I mean, again, the prophet in giving his messenger and the divine warnings to understand that you know, morally, right? Once you start to lose moral high ground, you start to disintegrate from within, right? As you know, as Holmes says, no civilization destroys itself from the outside and destroys itself from within, right? So it's just like as the United States is again growing as a superpower, right? And we start to live more luxurious, and we start to become more consumer-like, right? And we start to move manufacturing out of the US, right? We don't but we don't become as strong as a nation, we become weak. Good times bring about weak people, and this is what now we're going to. Now we're in these hard times, and now you're starting to see that you're gonna see people do it doing the amazing because it's actually required in order for us to get over the hump at this point now, right? So the prophet is basically foretelling all these things by warning America to one first our people don't continue to go down this road because as we continue to go down this road, we are still subject to the misuses and abuses that's going on, right? But the governing factions at that time, even though they think they are getting over, right? The other nations are growing, and as they're becoming a world global power, there's a need to create a counterbalance to that because all other sovereign nations don't want to be subjected to the things that we're being subjected to.

SPEAKER_01 25:01

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_02 25:02

So naturally that that starts to happen.

World War III Through Economics

SPEAKER_01 25:05

Gotcha. Now, I want to talk about uh when people talk about a possible World War III. Do any of Noble Drew Ali's warnings appear prophetic?

SPEAKER_02 25:18

Again, it's like in this in the same pattern, right? Right now, we're looking at our country being ultra divided today, and our country is ultra divided today, is because they're not being properly taught about what's going on and how it's occurring, right? Some of the hot button topics in our country is due to social and economic stability.

SPEAKER_01 25:47

So, with that being said, stability or instability, instability, right?

SPEAKER_02 25:52

Instability, right? Because what we're looking at is right, jobs are being taken away, so then now cheap labor is coming in to do the work. So now what's the obvious propaganda thing to do? Oh, immigrants are taking our jobs, exactly, right? Or right uh DEI. These social movements force the government to now create a quota on hiring certain peoples to fulfill right the social contract, similar initiative of these movements. So then what then starts to happen is oh, we're losing our jobs, oh, just because DEI. So everything is connected in a way. So when we're looking at World War III, why is World War III started? The United States is in a bind with manufacturing with China, right? About 30 to 35 percent of the world's manufacturer come from China. The United States is trying to become less dependent on Chinese manufacturing because as they see China rising as a superpower, they want to hold on to as much power as they can. So, how do you do that? Well, you start to have to bring manufacturing into your spheres of control. So, this is why you see like Trump talking about tariffs, right? What people don't understand is that Trump isn't necessarily putting tariffs on China, but he's putting tariffs on American businesses that's using Chinese manufacturing, right? So then now these American businesses, if they want to import their goods that they're using for Chinese manufacturing into America, they need to move their manufacturing to U.S. friendly allies in Asia, all of Vietnam, uh Thailand, places like that. Or what's going on now is right, Mexico and Canada is now becoming the new hub for US manufacturing because it's closer in geography and location to the United States.

SPEAKER_03 28:05

Wasn't that part of the original plan of the Amero? I remember a few years like back in like 2005, they were speaking about that uh the union between um Canada, US, and Mexico. Yeah, it's like yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:18

Calling it near shoring.

SPEAKER_01 28:19

Yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:22

So they're calling it near shoring now because again, if a lot of the manufacturing is coming from Asia, then what's the logistics on that? It has to come the boat, come through boats, right? And that was a whole big thing about what's going on at these boat yards with the container ships and things like that. But now, once you move manufacturing closer to Mexico and Canada, you don't get those same problems.

SPEAKER_03 28:44

Oh wow. So being that we see all this chaos in the world right now, like we see violence on on social media, television at a higher rate now, right? And sometimes you question, you start thinking about things that our grandparents used to say is it uh are these people influenced by the devil? Does the warning suggest that spiritual reform must be must happen before political change? Like do people need to dial back into something higher than themselves?

SPEAKER_01 29:10

That that's what he was basically saying earlier. All right, about you know, like the morality, yeah, yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02 29:17

You know, particularly if we want it to be long-term, because again, you know, Ibn Khaldun, right? More from the 13th, 14th century, talks about how civilizations rise and fall, and reason why civilizations fall is due to moral corruption, right? What we're seeing right now, even with the war, what with the U.S. fighting our Iran and Israel and all these different things, is that Iran has the moral high ground, which then moral high ground is important in a global arena because they can now gain sympathy for allies, help. And then on the United States end, what you see right now, even your European allies is turning against them due to some of the moral mistakes or things that's playing out from the people that's supposed to be representing our country.

SPEAKER_03 30:03

Yeah, being attacked during Ramadan and the kidnapping of Maduro and all that.

SPEAKER_02 30:09

So moral high ground, narrative, all is that all of that is important when it comes to a global shift like a war.

SPEAKER_01 30:17

Right, right. Yo, what's up to my man? Ben in the building. I haven't seen y'all up seen you guys in a minute, yo. Peace to the Ben, yo, peace, peace, peace. All right, so moral high ground, we built on that. Um, okay, uh, so do the prophet foresees the rise of future conflicts like World War? Did the prophecy future uh see foresee the rise of future conflicts like World War II? Did he prophesize World War II? What was his prophecies?

SPEAKER_02 30:52

I mean, so the prophecies, the prophet talked about, right, if his principles aren't carried out, right, the United States is going to be subject to diseases, earthquakes, etc. So, what he's really talking about is political instability. Again, it's a pattern. So these these situations isn't anything new when it comes to history, right? What we're dealing with is that the world is shifting in technology, and the United States is behind on that shift. So now what they're trying to do, even when you look at World War II, let's just look at World War II. After World War II, the global powers become right, the United States, Japan, Russia becomes big, right? And what we're now moving into is now more high technological warfare, right? So every time there's a shift happening, is mostly due to a new way of things happening. Then everybody who aren't able to adapt to the new way of things happening in a global shift, they get left behind. So with that being said, again, what the prophet is saying is that it is the principles that is a that will allow the United States to sustain the gains that they are gaining. But because they are not living up to these principles, right, they're treating their people wrong, they are mismanaging their people, they're also, again, as we see today, losing credibility, even back then, right? Uh, even looking at World War I and like what dragged Woodrow Wilson into it, right? There was certain type of internal pressures that were going on. I think there's a movie. Um is it called Ransom? It's one of those spy movies, and in the spy movie, it talks about basically showing like how they got Woodrow Wilson to even participate in World War One, and it was through blackmail. Wow, yeah, I can't remember the name of the movie, but it was it was a recent movie, and it was literally about uh spies in Britain who was like working at a uh a tailor shop. It's on HBO Max, I believe.

SPEAKER_03 33:14

Was it also the military industrial comp um um the mil the military industry also was pushing for that because this is that's the same thing that happened with Kennedy. They were trying to force his head into war.

SPEAKER_02 33:26

Definitely, and the military industrial complex is like basically prize fighting, they don't care who wins, they just want to get the money from the venue. What's the venue, right? The the uh the uniforms, the weapons, the artillery, the vehicles. Yeah, they're making money on both sides.

SPEAKER_03 33:44

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 33:45

No matter they don't, they don't care who wins.

SPEAKER_03 33:47

It's all even to change, even to change a name now is the Department of War. I'm like, Well, from defense now is this department of war.

Global South BRICS And Power Shifts

unknown 33:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:56

Now, what what are the parallels? Uh what what parallels can be drawn between today's global tension and the world conditions of the early 20th century?

SPEAKER_02 34:07

Some of the parallels again is like looking at how what they call the global south today is on the rise. I believe I don't know if y'all seen, you know, there was a news, a famous newspaper article now that's been flying around the internet of how like um India, you have a giant India, a giant China, and a giant Africa looking over like the United States and Europe. So they were already foreseeing that the global south is going to grow in power, you know, due to population, due to these empires not having the bandwidth or the capacity to continue to rule over this wide swath of land in different nations and things like that.

SPEAKER_03 34:54

Retribution that that was coming along for a while. Remember the talk to the BRICS, the nations were coming together. Yeah, that somehow could have bankrupt the US if they they started backing up their finances with natural resources, definitely, and now I think that there's more interrupted that there's more interrupted that process, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:14

Especially when the economy is is set up off of you know extortion, basically.

unknown 35:23

Of course, heavily, right?

Nationalizing Science And Building Workforce

SPEAKER_02 35:25

So when you're taking over people's trade routes, when you're taking over people's national industries, so when these countries start to okay, we need to figure out how to nationalize our own resources, right? Then that takes away from the wealth, the spoils that the Americans have used to extort, which then decreases their power because the question is built off. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03 35:51

No, I have a question. You say to nationalize nationalize resources, right? Yeah, what can the Moorish Americans nationalize as far as a resource?

SPEAKER_02 35:58

Yeah, what can they nationalize as far as a resource? Yeah, I think there's a lot that we can nationalize, and again, I think it starts with again putting the science back in Moorish science temple. Like, I my future that I see for us is like we're really an outlet for science for our community. So think about this, right? Everything is moving towards this pace with AI, they want to get more autonomous vehicles, blockchain technology, robotics, uh, genome added in, um, all of these different things. So, what we need to leverage is science, right? Even looking at what's going on with manufacturing. If they are bringing more manufacturing to uh places like Mexico, Canada, and then some manufacturing in the US depending on defense and things like that, we need to train up a workforce that is partially understanding the trades. So, of course, um electrical trades, HVAC, cooling, because this technology needs to be cool and all these different things. The electricity has to work, right? So we need skilled labor, we also need you know regular laborers, and we also so in understanding where things are going, we're able to build leverage by building the workforce that is used for the strategy moving forward for the agenda of the nation. On top of that, what makes it valuable is we become indispensable to the growth of the nation, just like how Taiwan is indispensable, just like how they went from having their factories to Taiwan to now them opening up a factory in Arizona, TSMC. Right? So it's all about understanding and it us understanding this, we can now plot out how all the future political moves will be made. So the big the big thing that was in the news a couple weeks ago was you know what happened with in Mexico with the cartel. Well, why is that important? Because they want to move manufacturer into Mexico. The cartel is in the way of the trade, Ross, where trucks and things will go from logistics to bring things to the United States.

SPEAKER_01 38:17

That makes sense, all right.

SPEAKER_02 38:19

So understanding this pattern, we'll be able to be ahead of the curve. So teaching our students not only about like what will be necessary for like what's going forward for the overall country, but what's necessary going forward for our own goals and initiatives as a people, and that's you know, again, rebuilding things, building architecture in similarity with how our ancestors built built it, understanding um like some of the big diseases in our uh community right now, heart disease and things like that, getting into science and chemistry. You know, a lot of people think that the chemicals and things like that are a bad thing. I just think they're in the hands of the wrong people. So for people to get in there and understand how these chemicals work, you know, ethically for us, right? We could literally stop people from having heart disease or uh breast cancer, all these different things that we could solve within our community. Science is the backbone, so it's like in civilization, in building a culture, you have to get to a certain level to even think about these higher sciences, and that's why we've been falling behind, is because we're trying to survive every day. So only a few that actually get to go to college, get a major in some of the STEM uh topics areas, and then go on to get their degree and become a professional in their career path.

SPEAKER_03 39:52

Okay, right about the same thing.

SPEAKER_02 39:57

So science, science is our way to the top.

SPEAKER_01 40:01

So nationalizing science. So if we if it's so because the brother said uh what can Moorish Americans nationalize? So can you explain what nationalized uh nationalizing science uh is and uh what would be how can we go about doing that? Well, you kind of you basically explained it. Uh you basically explained how we could, but uh when what huh what you said?

SPEAKER_02 40:28

I can expound on that as well.

Moorish Renaissance Project And Food Systems

SPEAKER_01 40:30

Yeah, yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_02 40:31

Yeah, so you know, uh initi an initiative that I'm spearheading is the Moorish Renaissance Project. All right, and the Moorish Renaissance Project is to is is to literally for us to gather Moorish manuscripts that fro that flow from Andalusia into West Africa on subjects about math, science, medicine, farming, etc.

unknown 40:58

Right?

SPEAKER_02 40:59

So then once we start to nationalize these methods, like for example, I built a community garden out here in Colorado back in 2023, and there was an initiative that we were trying to get funding for. Uh, it's called a Wallapini. Now, Wallapini is an underground greenhouse which will be able to allow us to grow food year-round. So just imagine if, with the context of gorilla gardening, urban gardening, with what with a wallapini strategy to now grow food year-round for us to become more dependent. Take that a step further. Let's actually match that with the food that our ancestors are growing, right? So now we're looking at corn, now we're looking at beans, now we're looking at millet, now we're looking at lentils, chickpeas, all these all of these things that are also drought resistant. How do we know that? Our ancestors wrote about it, right? So these are the answers are in the past to then now add the modern swag to it.

SPEAKER_03 42:04

That makes a lot of sense. Yeah, that's so dope what he he mentioned. That remember Ron in the early stages of par when we were starting that group back in like 2020. And you know, I took the initiative to attend a uh a seminar online about farming within the local black community, and they only show that we only have three percent of farming in the U.S. alone, which means there's a problem with us not having enough land to produce that because with the farmers, as you mentioned, their agriculture from there, you not only can you feed yourself, but you also create jobs of people you know wanting to work the fields. You get what I'm saying? That's an industry right there. Now you got you know small farmer market chain stores you could create and stuff like that. And the urban garden is a start right there. You get what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 42:46

Right, and farming isn't just food, it's tea, yeah, it's medicine, it's skincare, right? It's incense, it's it's it's more than just food, right? It's it's really again the backbone of what we've always done.

SPEAKER_01 43:05

Gotcha, gotcha. Um, could the divine warning be interpreted as a warning about moral? Well, you said that already, you already explained that. Um, so was the divine warning meant to be understood symbolically or literally?

SPEAKER_02 43:23

Both literally, of course, for us to understand again, right? Us clinging on to these terms that allude to slavery, it's us denying ourselves of the rights of true full citizenship first. So that's that's the literal part that we need to understand is that again, it is free national standards and power that makes a man and the nation, right? So that's the literal part. The symbology is understanding how it applies to all nations again, because no nation can be productive if they're

SPEAKER_01 44:00

divided if there's no cohesion if there's no direction right so so that's that's this is my question so being so being that the movement is divided it is divided right um uh we could say it does have direction because the prophet basically laid the foundation down for guidance for to guide us right uh but being that it's so fragmented and you know the power is in a unity how uh how how how important uh Moorish American nationality is uh as individuals versus us coming together which we it's like we seem like we can't come together because we've been having these these crazy conversations online offline about who's the the the the the the successor of the prophet and who wasn't the successor of the prophet and then there's so many then you got other groups who blend the prophet's teachings with other things and they don't see things the way the some people don't even really adhere to what the prophet's saying but they're taking bits and pieces of his teachings and running with it so different ideologies. So being that we're so fragmented how powerful or how uh useful if that's a better term how useful would be the term more or or the nationality Moorish American it's powerful because again we have we're we're rich right we're rich as far as understanding that we have thousands of manuscripts that will allow us to design and envision a new future and I think that's the reason why the movement is so stagnant is because honestly you know I'm gonna be honest you more is over 40 lack vision so with that lack of vision because it comes a narrowing down on things to talk about and debate as the prophet said there's enough work for all right so it also comes down to literacy as well again how many of us have jobs in the field of science how many of us have jobs in the field of government how many of us are lawyers see what I'm saying so because we're so concentrated in certain areas economically and socially we're not even able to flower out to really build a whole nation because we're so concentrated on small areas which then leads to the ego over leadership and all of these different things because there's there's so many things that we could be working on bro like that's that's you're right about that so now so now to take it back to Moors over 40 40 lacking vision I'm over 40 I don't lack vision though I don't lack vision now tell me tell me your vision for the nation and where you see it going uh for more in a perfect world if the Moors came together and they was united where would the nation go that's a long answer right there um I could say uh we should have a seat in the UN that's the first that's the first thought okay as Moorish Americans representing our nation right I could start there that's infrastructure right there I agree with that next thing is agriculture having your own businesses centralized hubs of businesses Moorish agriculture like how the nation of Islam had the fish market at one point able to you know have a have a business and of course we would need like um like a a tech a tech um department I don't I don't want to even say a company right a warehouse STEM like a you know creative like a a unity center yeah for STEM that teaches you know children like internet cafe like stuff like that like a STEM a STEM facility about chips computer chips oh yeah things like that that's why I said depart department like yeah like a part of our like a Moorish government to focus if uh Trump can put millions of dollars in AI Moorish Americans should have a government set up where we could put millions of dollars into AI ourselves where you that that wouldn't involve you get you know doing business with other people we got a branch outside outside of ourselves to establish those use those um relationships in ai for though what would we be using ai for i mean uh for in my mind there's so many things i could i could talk i could talk about marketing is one uh motivation of jobs i mean uh marketing ai is now you know they're using it to uh uh uh for like cancer and all kinds of stuff and you know like ai is such a broad uh subject like you can't pinpoint because it goes it it it it covers all subjects it still requires it still requires expertise with different fields to make the AI work for them right and y'all make some great points but this is the point that I'm trying to make and I'm not trying to be divisive when I say more is over 40 what I'm really talking about is understanding that you can't know what you're trying to build without a blueprint and we could say yes the prophet left the blueprint which he did right but it was for that time we have to now build add on to what the prophet laid out as a blueprint in this 21st century because the way to organize and have social economic mobility in the 20th century is not the same way we have to do it in the 21st century right there's some principles there's the same principles but it's not the same way of how it's gonna get done right so when I think about like what we can do with AI right I'm I'm a history bluff right so when I look at ed tech I'm thinking about AR and VR technology so when I'm talking to you about how the Moors invaded Spain in 7-Eleven you can actually see it you actually put your goggles on be in the war swing your sword as you do it as you go through the story mode and see like how uh General Tariq gave the speech of before you is the land behind you is the sea I will be in the foreground with you fighting where the the possibility of death is highest to motivate you as a young person.

SPEAKER_02 50:58

All right experience I'm looking at blockchain technology and how we can back crypto technology onto services not even money but to services to swap within our network as a people so now people can get people can get paid to party you ain't even going outside of what you do on a regular basis but just like if you go to Disneyland and then get some Disney bucks and now you can buy things in Disneyland with the Disney bucks you can go to a Morris event get your more coin trade it in for your dollars which then inflates the coin for then us to then now create a parallel economy within the country not only within the country there's this thing called the network state so now we can work with now let's say work with coders in Kenya but then work with robotics experts in Pakistan right these is where things are going now this is what I'm talking about when I'm saying fleshing out the vision fleshing out the blueprint of like this bro we we have all the tools in the world to really create not only create but design something immaculate never before even now in the state that we are in we still have some the most influence in the world I know y'all seen the video I think I've used this before but I think it's such a perfect analogy about how krs one was talking about the Timberland booth and how it just used to be a construction workers booth but then we made it into a fashion icon.

Vision For Tech Media And Closing

SPEAKER_01 52:38

That's our superpower as a people is that we add value to things that most people don't see value in animate objects we always give it life you see you see what I'm we have the power to thank you we have the power to give things life yeah right so now taking that putting that into science putting that into art putting into music putting that into architecture putting that into math right so now instead of we teaching kids about algebra solar X no we're gonna also teach them to understand that algebra comes from the word algebra which was a Muslim Moorish brother that then created these things by translating it from older things right so we have and that's what's happening we're learning things out of context and if we don't put what people are doing on a day to day within the context of the future of the nation that we're building all of these things will be for naught right this platform right here this platform is excellent right but now that this goes into a 247 news cycle and now you got people on the ground in Qatar right now seeing what's going on and now they're breaking it down just like how you do it with the New York swag we we we're working on that actually before you go further let's let's let's give that let's let's give that a shout thank you brother thank you man thank you but even thinking about ways of how we can now innovate on this right like I thought about I don't even care still still my idea I thought about creating a content album a podcast album yeah we already said we were gonna do that you feel yeah yeah yeah yeah we on the same chain yeah yeah but but a con well well not a not a it was gonna be like a like a like an NYP talk show mixtape yeah right and how you market that and how you know how do you make merchandise from that in different ways looking at how right uh Idris sandu and how he when he was working with Nipsey Hustle and how once you put the QR code on the clothing you get access to music you get you could see future design all these different things like we our imagination is our number one weapon that's a fact our imagination is our number one weapon mores need to dream and imagine and create indeed indeed indeed indeed for sure for sure yo but uh we got about five more minutes until the next podcast brother uh uh we're gonna have the brother Moriel on on a regular week we already built with him about uh staying on the platform yes uh you know we're gonna have you we're gonna see him very often uh very often you're gonna see him you're gonna see him on the podcast often thank you guys for coming out this evening I really appreciate everybody it's my first day back first day back podcasting in a month or so uh great podcast support these brothers yes I appreciate that support these brothers man for real open honest bringing bringing different people with different mindsets that's what we got to understand is that like more civilization have always accepted different schools of thought definitely that comes from out of that right that's what we give life to going back to what our brother said so thank y'all thank you and tonight is a treble header there's there's another show at 8 p.m and there's another one at nine so you guys are lucky tonight word word you're lucky on that note we are out of here thank y'all see y'all in about four more minutes to build with the rabbi peace peace family welcome to NYP talk show this is more than a podcast it's a conscious platform rooted in truth and culture from the 5% nation nation of Islam Moorish movement and masonry our mission is to reclaim our narrative and uplift the African diaspora with real stories and real conversations support us through super chats during live shows donations on Cash App GoFundMe Patreon or BugSprout and by recting our official merch available on our website and right here on YouTube's merch shelf every dollar every super chat every hoodie builds the movement this is NYP talk show