Supreme Wisdom Explained By Eric Muhammad

Supreme Wisdom gets talked about like a slogan online, but we treat it like what it claims to be: a disciplined path to knowledge of God and self that’s meant to produce real work, real character, and real community. I’m Ron Brown LMT, and I’m joined by Minister Eric Muhammad for a direct conversation on how Nation of Islam Supreme Wisdom is ordered, why Student Enrollment and the Rules of Islam come before the Lost-Found Muslim Lessons, and what “supreme” actually means when you stop using the word loosely.

We also get practical about study. Minister Eric breaks down the reading rotation he followed for years: Message To The Black Man, Our Savior Has Arrived, The Fall Of America, How To Eat To Live Books 1 and 2, then a full Holy Quran read in 30 days. From there we dig into how cross-referencing works in real time, where a line from a book unlocks a Quran verse and the Quran “bears witness” back to the teaching. If you care about Islamic study, Nation of Islam theology, or building a serious learning habit, this is a blueprint you can actually follow.

The conversation turns to application and structure: why Lost-Found Muslim Lesson Number One is described as the base of the work, why FOI and MGT training matter, and why unstructured internet study can twist the purpose of Supreme Wisdom. We close with a blunt comparison to Christianity and orthodox Islam through one question that changes everything: is God a mystery, or God in person with a name?

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Transcript

Welcome And Personal Reunion

SPEAKER_00 0:11

All right, all right. What's going on, everybody out there? It's Ron Brown LMT, the People's Fitness Professional. AK Soul Brother Number One reporting for duty. And I have Brother Minister Eric Muhammad in the building. Hold on. I got the new sound effects now.

SPEAKER_01 0:32

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_00 0:33

I don't know what to do with all this stuff. But anyway, thank you for coming this evening. I really appreciate you, brother. I just want to let y'all brothers and sisters know. I have my ex now. My name is Ronald X. Um, I went out there to Atlanta to meet the brother Minister Eric Mohammed. And I'm gonna tell you, brother, Minister Eric Muhammad, I thought when I saw you for the first time, I was gonna get this strict, you know, straight up, you know, uh, what you call it? Uh uh tight soldier, shake my hand, you know, sir, and then you embrace me with a hug. That was, you know, the first time I met you. That was it, that was like, brother, you know, and uh it was just a great feeling just to be around you, like and how you greeted me and how you treated me the time I was there at the temple. And uh, it was just a great experience altogether. That how long was that? That was like three hours we were in there, right? Yes, sir. Three hours, three hours. I quoted everything. Um man, I just appreciate you, brother. I just wanted to say that thank you.

SPEAKER_01 1:45

But it went both ways. You think you know somebody based on like just being on a podcast or just watching them do a podcast or text messaging, but when you meet somebody in person, you get a whole new vibe, right?

SPEAKER_00 2:00

Indeed.

SPEAKER_01 2:01

That's how it wasn't just one way, it was both ways.

SPEAKER_00 2:04

Thank you, thank you, brother. So, uh man, um, that experience I could go on and on and on and on about. Um, I just uh not probably I'll be back out there real soon. So um, we're here to talk about supreme wisdom. Before we go into that, how are you feeling this evening?

SPEAKER_01 2:20

Fine, all praises due to Allah for the most honorable Elijah Muhammad.

The Study Order Explained

SPEAKER_00 2:25

All right, now um uh first let's go into so Supreme Wisdom, right? Supreme Wisdom. I want to talk about the specific order Supreme Wisdom is in through the nation of Islam. Can you talk about that or no? The order, the order of how the supreme wisdom goes.

SPEAKER_01 2:47

Well, what I can say is you have your student enrollment. All right, you would take that as your first one. I mean, how you gonna have a course before you enroll in it? Right. Then it says it's the rules of Islam, also. How are you gonna study something and learn it? You don't know the rules. So, student enrollment, rules of Islam. Then you are told the following questions must be answered 100% before submittance of student to said lesson number one. So, your student enrollment, your I don't know whether it says uh student enrollment. No, it just says student enrollment rules of Islam. It doesn't say student enrollment and actual facts, doesn't say that, it says student enrollment. Now, then it says lesson number one comes after that. Then you have lost found Muslim lesson number two. So you would know that lesson number two would obviously come after lesson number one. Where English lesson C one would come in, I don't know. Where actual facts would come in, I don't know. And I'm not one of those bean soup scientists that when I don't know, just try to come up with something on my own. What I can say definitely is that student enrollment precedes lesson number one, lesson number one precedes lesson number two. With respect to English lesson C1 and actual facts, I don't know what order they would fit in.

SPEAKER_00 4:37

Okay, okay. So now um when you said so student enrollment going to uh lesson number one. Okay, um, why must it be quoted accurate 100 before going into student uh before going into lesson number one, lost and found lesson number one?

SPEAKER_01 5:03

That's another thing I'm not gonna make up a teaching on. Okay, I have not been taught by anyone representing the message why it says the following questions must be answered 100 before submittance of student to set lesson number one. Only thing I can say is the nation of Islam is all wise and does everything right and exact.

Defining Supreme Wisdom And Origin

SPEAKER_00 5:30

Got you, got you. Now, um let's go into this. Uh, the sub what is the what is supreme wisdom in its purest definition?

SPEAKER_01 5:41

I would go with what minister Kevin said earlier. I mean, you look at the word supreme, okay. This means that superior, it is superior to any other wisdom. So, supreme wisdom is that wisdom that is above any other wisdom in existence. The messenger referred to it as the wisdom of gods, as opposed to what we have had for the past 6,000 years, which is the wisdom of prophets. In fact, the true knowledge of the reality and person of God has been kept from the public for 66 trillion years. So for the first time in 66 trillion years, we are getting a thorough knowledge of God and self for the first time in 66 trillion years.

SPEAKER_00 6:44

Okay, okay. So now um, as far as let's go back to this question here. So, where does supreme wisdom originate from historically?

SPEAKER_01 6:58

The original people, who is Allah, the supreme being, the black man of Asia. Got you.

A Reading Plan For Growth

SPEAKER_00 7:05

Okay, now um, as far as we spoke about the order. Now, as far as Supreme Wisdom, I spoke to Brother Kevin Ali about how our how should you study, you know, the books, like you know, all the books that were written in which in any particular order. How did you study, you know, in your travels?

SPEAKER_01 7:31

Did you that's an excellent question? Myself, I would always read Message to the Black Man, then I would read Our Savior Has Arrived, then I would read The Fall of America, then I would read How to Eat to Live book one, and then I would read How to Eat to Live Book Two. And I used to do that in rotation twice a year, but in order to equal the 12 months, because those are only five books that you read twice a year, that would only be 10 months. What I would do at the end of the five books each time is I would read the entire holy Quran, which is separated into 30 parts. You read one part each day, and at the end of 30 days, you've read the entire holy Quran. So I would do that. So I would read Message of the Black Man, Savior has arrived, fall of America, How to Eat to Live One, How to Eat to Live Two, whole Holy Quran. Start all over again and then repeat the process, and that's what I did uh for the year.

SPEAKER_00 8:42

Okay, so how did what does that do for you as far as like your knowledge, wisdom, and understanding? Does it it it obviously would have to elevate your understanding of life in general because you're just you're going through all those books? How does does how how do uh the the books blend with the holy Quran?

SPEAKER_01 9:08

Well, as I'm reading the books, I'm thinking of things that I read in the Holy Quran, like I might be reading something in our savior has arrived. Bam, a verse in the Quran pops up, and now I understand that verse. I might be reading the Holy Quran, and it'll say something, bam! This is what our savior has arrived meant when it said this. This is what message to the black man meant when it says that. So the books help you understand the Quran, and the Holy Quran help you understand the books. It's mostly the books helping you understand the Quran, though. But the Quran will drop certain things that support that bear witness to what is said in the books, and then you you feel validated because those who are orthodox Muslims are always juxtaposing what the messenger teaches to what the Holy Quran teaches, not realizing that if you really read the Holy Quran unbiased in an unbiased manner, you will find it literally supports what the messenger teaches. Case in point, Allah in person. That's the messenger's teaching. The Holy Quran says everything on the earth passes away, and there endureth forever, nothing but the person of your Lord. So when the Holy Quran speaks of Allah as the person of your Lord, and the Messenger speaks of Allah in person, you see a corresponding between the two. That's one example, okay? Now, you have another verse in the Quran that says, speaking of uh periods of time, it talks about the angels and the spirit ascending in a day, the measure of which is 50,000 years, as you count, or 50,000 years. Okay, well, the messenger talks about us straying away from civilization and living a jungle life beginning 50,000 years ago. And when the Holy Quran speaks according to the scholarship of Milana Muhammad Ali, when it talks about to him ascends the angels and the spirit, it's talking about how can I put it? It's talking about a fall, it's talking about a straying away. Like revelation is described as coming down from heaven, so that's adding knowledge to the cipher. Well, when it says ascends to him, now we're talking about it retreating. Okay. So 50,000 years ago, we strayed away from civilization. To him ascends the angels and the spirit in a day, the measure of which is 50,000 years. So bam, take me right to what the messenger teaches about us going into the jungles. There is a verse in the Quran, or there are verses in the Quran that talk about a creature that sends up sparks or flames, and it it mentions the number three. Well, that's the uh bombs on the baby planes, you know, that land and take off from the mother plane. Uh sparks and flames, those bombs, the messenger teaches us that fire, poison gas, and I think, yeah, fire and poison gas. It may be a third thing, but the bottom line is those bombs drill into the earth and then they explode and bring up a mountain the same height as they drill down, and so I see that verse corresponding to what the messenger teaches about the bombs on the smaller wheel-shaped planes, and there are many other examples. Like I see what the messenger teaches in the holy Quran.

SPEAKER_00 14:08

Okay, so now how do you how do you cross-reference through supreme wisdom?

Math Mind And Mastery Of Nature

SPEAKER_01 14:16

Same thing. When you are uh reading the holy Quran, there will be many things in the lessons that will pop right out. It pop right out. Case in point. The Holy Quran all throughout the book says, and we did this, and we never that, and we always this, and we this, and we that, and we this, and we that. You look in the supreme wisdom, and it talks about the godza plural, right? You look at who made the holy Quran or Bible, how long ago? You know, Allah, the Supreme Being, the black man of Asia, the original people who is Allah. All of that's plural. Then you go in the Quran, and Allah is addressing Himself as a plurality, and we this, and we that, and we this. Take it a little deeper. It made me to understand that the reason the Holy Quran says we is just like number one in lesson number two says, every 25,000 years we renew the history. The messenger teaches us every 25,000 years, a God gets to try his wisdom of ruling the people and that it lasts for 25,000 years. So when the Holy Quran says, and we this, and we that, and we this, it's talking about the plurality of gods that have come every 25,000 years. It's one man who is the God at that particular time talking about the collective work that he and all of the gods who have preceded him have done. So we this and we that and we this, like a president of the United States might be talking about what has been done by presidents for the past 200 years, and he will say, Well, we, meaning me, the current president, and all the presidents that preceded me. That's why the Holy Quran says we. Master Farad Muhammad is bestowing upon us rulership of the universe. We are literally to be rulers of the universe. So you can't rule that which you don't have any mastery of, that which you don't have the mastery of the knowledge of. So we're being taught on a rudimentary level those things that we need to know to actually master the universe. So we're given calculations. You understand what I'm saying? We're given the mathematical breakdown of things, and with that mathematical breakdown of the universe, we can then use that to gain mastery over it.

SPEAKER_00 18:04

Exactly. Exactly. And of course, it you know, being that uh Islam is mathematics, mathematics is Islam, it's also works you it helps you work out mathematical equations from my experience, yes, sir.

SPEAKER_01 18:20

Right, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 18:21

So it's like certain things like I didn't even consider six text six sex trillion tons of unify about 21 ciphers. I wasn't even thinking about that, yes, sir, until I got I started even dealing with the lessons. So, so um that alone, right? Mathematical equations, like understanding width, feet, and dimensions and and and and circumferences and just math, all you know, in general, it's a great help for the mind.

SPEAKER_01 18:53

The more you know about something, the more you can manipulate it. And when I say manipulate, I don't mean manipulate in the negative sense of the term. But if you know enough about meteorology, if you know enough about it, you don't have to wait for a hurricane, you can produce one. You don't have to wait for a tornado, you can produce one. You don't have to wait for it to snow, you can cause it to snow. If you know enough about meteorology, the white man doesn't know enough about it in order to manipulate it. So this craziness about having a heart machine and all of this or other stuff, the white man doesn't have that type of power. But our lesson teaches us that all of these things, such as rain, snow, hail, and earthquakes, are caused by the original man. That kind of man, right? That's because we literally have black men who know enough about meteorology, about the forces of nature with respect to weather, that we can cause weather. We don't have to just wait for it. We know it well enough to cause it.

SPEAKER_00 20:18

I'm gonna just say this. I'm not trying to be spooky about nothing, man.

SPEAKER_01 20:22

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_00 20:23

Some things happen, like coming up with the five percent nation, building in a cipher, and it's like you kind of leave the planet Earth, and I mean you're still here, but it's like you're just building so much, you're just not like here. Like, I don't know if anyone ever had that experience, and man, stuff starts happening, brother. Rain comes down. Go ahead. I don't know anybody in the chat experienced this before. Let me know. I've experienced it multiple times, not trying to be spooky, but anyway.

SPEAKER_01 20:59

What I can say is this if thought travels at the rate of 24 billion miles per second, and there's a very, very good book. Again, it's from a white man, so it's not, you know, he he can't go as deep as we can go, but there's a very, very good book called The Three Magic Words, and it's written by a white man by the name of US Anderson. Oh, let me get that down, and he goes into the breakdown of the human brain and the body, you know, from a mechanical standpoint, and I have forgotten the calculations because I haven't read that book in decades. But when he talks about how many different impulses your brain can handle at One particular time. You know, how many, how many, how many, like like a computer chip. You know how they say some computer chips can make X amount of calculations per second?

SPEAKER_00 22:11

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_01 22:12

Well, the human brain is like that. And the number of things it can calculate per second is astonishing. And I remember one part in the book, he talked about there's enough power in us that could run. And when I say run, I mean power a major city for X amount of hours in each of us individually. When he starts breaking down what a human being is, and the power of the human brain, the mind, you get all the way to the end of the book, and what he is saying to you is that man is God. So when I began to hear the teachings of the most honorable Elijah Muhammad, since I read that book as a Christian, now you're gonna teach me that man is God. Well, I read that in the three magic words, so everything started to make sense.

SPEAKER_00 23:31

Now, um, what how how is supreme wisdom connected to the teachings of Master Farad Muhammad?

SPEAKER_01 23:41

The teachings of that sounds like a dumb question, but I'm well, I mean, it may sound like one, but the only dumb question is the one that's not asked.

SPEAKER_00 23:49

Right.

SPEAKER_01 23:50

The teaching of Master Farad Muhammad cannot be separated from Supreme Wisdom. The reason the wisdom is supreme is precisely because it is his teaching. Now, I realized that the moment you asked me, like I didn't understand that until you just asked me the question. Master Farad Muhammad, the messenger, teaches us is the greatest and the wisest God that we ever produced. And so his teaching is supreme above all in terms of wisdom. There has never been a God as wise as Master Farad Muhammad, and there will never be a God wiser than Master Farad Muhammad. His wisdom will last forever. He is the one individual God that the Bible refers to as the everlasting father. There has never been a father God whose wisdom lasted beyond 25,000 years. Master Farad Muhammad's wisdom breaks that cycle of history occurring every 25,000 years. There will be no end to Master Farad Muhammad's wisdom. So that's another level on which we understand the supremacy of that wisdom. Every God's wisdom has been supreme for 25,000 years, but this man, Farad, his wisdom will last far beyond 25,000 years. There'll never be another wisdom that will come that will be greater than his.

SPEAKER_00 25:35

Okay. What role did uh Elijah Muhammad play in preserving the teachings?

SPEAKER_01 25:41

Oh, I mean, again, now we're getting into the Quran and the Supreme Wisdom backing each other up. The messenger in teaching about the Quran mentions that Allah, in choosing his last messenger, doesn't just give his last messenger the message, and that's it, and leave the whole responsibility on the messenger himself. But as the Holy Quran teaches, I forget exactly what verse, he actually, hands on, makes sure that the messenger's message and mission is carried out to his, I won't say liking, but to his uh uh prescription for lack of a better term. Okay, like he doesn't just leave the messenger alone with the teaching, but he is there with the messenger, not physically present along with the messenger, but that he is with the messenger, backing the messenger up and making sure that things go in a particular direction. Right. So when you see Elijah, you're looking at Farad. Elijah is the right hand of Farad. We look at the messenger, and one of the reasons why we keep doubting what the messenger says and wanting to use historians and other scholars and talking about modern science and prove this and prove that is because we look at the messenger as being the origin of what he taught, and we know the messenger was an uneducated man, so then we start looking at people with all these degrees, and we think, well, all right, the the reason the messenger was teaching that back in the 1930s is because we didn't know as much as we know today. Well, wait a minute, the messenger was not the origin of what he taught. Master Farad Muhammad is the origin of what he taught. Now, who claims Master Farad Muhammad was an uneducated man? Who claims that? You know, the messenger could speak and write one language, Master Farad Muhammad could speak 16 and write 10. We're talking about Master Farad Muhammad, a supremely educated man. There is no teaching, no concept, no idea, no nothing about Master Farad Muhammad being uneducated. He didn't drop out of school in no fifth grade. Master Farad Muhammad, his wisdom, like we discussed a moment ago, is supreme. He was given as the God tribe of Shabbaz lectured teachers, he was given access to books on the history of the black nation that nobody has been given access to. Master Farad Muhammad's knowledge is far, far, far above that knowledge that so-called modern science. What the hell is modern science? Like when we were uh when I was on uh Assad the other week. What the hell is modern science? What's modern about the white man science? What's modern about it? You know, modern science, like I taught earlier today, is the science that has an earth that's 25,000 miles approximately in circumference and weighing six sextillion tons flying around the sun at 67,000 miles per hour. That's modern science, and the white man don't know a damn thing about that. The white man can't build nothing like that and make it move like that. So you want to talk about modern science? The white man is just now finding out things that the black man has known for millions of years.

Who Supreme Wisdom Is For

SPEAKER_00 30:17

All right. Uh, so is supreme wisdom meant for everyone or only a specific group of people?

SPEAKER_01 30:27

Supreme wisdom is meant for the original people. We are getting this wisdom now, as opposed to having gotten it any time before the 6,000 years of the Caucasian to rule were up. Because had this been taught earlier, it would be much harder to get rid of this white man. Okay, you know, just the little bit that they have been able to glean from Master Farad Muhammad teaching while they were still present, has the white man as advanced in technology and power as he is now? I mean, just think about it. Without that mother of planes, like Minister Kevin was talking about, what in the world could we do with the white man? What could we possibly do with him? We're not gonna get rid of the white man by having nationality cards. I don't know if I'm saying that right, but we're not gonna be able to get rid of the white man with nationality identity cards or whatever. We're not gonna be able to get rid of the white man by reciting supreme wisdom lessons. We're not going to be able to get rid of the white man by arming ourselves lest we harm ourselves. The white man is so great in power that it takes a plane like the mother of plane and the babies, I say babies, and the smaller wheel-shaped planes with the bombs that they are equipped with, it takes that along with the forces of nature to remove the white man. The white man has hydrogen bombs, the white man has atomic bombs, nuclear weapons, weapons of mass destruction, weapons that he says he can blow up the earth 30 times. How do you move? How do you move a people like that out of power? You can't do it with anything other than technology that is more advanced than his. The white man is gonna still have everything on lock. The wisdom of Master Farad Muhammad, thanks a lot, dear holy savior. You know, great. It's I mean, it's great, it's fantastic. I can't even think of anything else, but that's not going to unlock what the white man has unlocked. The white man is not just knowledgeable, the white man is not just wise, but the white man is powerful. So if a man has great knowledge and great wisdom, but he doesn't have more power than the white man. Power than the white man, which means he has to have weapons that are vastly superior to the white man. He has to have weapons that can render the white man's weapons ineffective, and he has to have weapons that are infinitely more effective than the weapons of the white man. We're talking about the power of Master Farad Muhammad. Without that aspect of what the messenger teachers teach is, we're just wasting our time. I don't care how wise he is. I don't care nothing about how knowledgeable and how wise he is. If he isn't more powerful than the white man, why are we wasting our time? Wherein lies Master Farad Muhammad's power? You go in the supreme wisdom. All of these things, such as rain, hail, snow, and earthquakes, are caused by the son of man. Earthquakes are caused by the son of man experimenting with what? High explosives. High explosives. Okay, well, what the hell do we think that is? Great wisdom, sound effects on the NYP talk show. High explosive. We're talking about bombs, brother. We're literally talking about bombs. We have bombs that are vastly superior to the white man's bombs. And we're going to drop them on this cracker. And that's why I'm Nation of Islam as opposed to any other black group or organization, because none of these other black groups or organizations, I don't care who they are, I don't care who the leader was, I don't care how great his teaching was. Nobody even claims that their man has the power to kill the white man. Now, I may make some people mad, but none of you Moors have ever said Noble Drew Ali could kill white people. None of you Garveyites have ever said Garby could kill white people. None of you, any other people have with any other black leader have ever said your leader, your man, could kill white people. But we say our man, Farad, can kill white people. So that's the man I'm with. If you can't kill white people, I'm sorry, did I say that on your podcast again? If you can't kill white folks, I'm not following you. Because no matter how good your teaching is, no matter how good your leadership is, as long as the white man is not removed, what difference does it make? I need you to not only have a good teaching and a good methodology and a good everything else, I need you to have enough power to overpower the white man. And you don't even claim your man has that. How much power does or did your man have? If you can't remove the white man from power, you're wasting my time. I may like what you're teaching. I may like your legacy, your history, I may like a lot of things about you. When it comes to Garvey, I like a lot of things. When it comes to Noble Juali, I like a lot of things. I'm not saying that to make friends with you because you can't whoop me. And if I didn't mean it, I wouldn't say it. I'm telling you, when it comes to Noble Juwali, that's my due, part of my slang. When it comes to Garvey, that's my due, pardon my slang. But when it comes to power, neither one of them can help me out. Master Farad Muhammad got the power, not just the teaching, not just the knowledge, not just the wisdom, but the power to remove the white man from power and exalt us and give us the power. That's why I'm Nation of Islam.

Lesson One As The Base

SPEAKER_00 39:04

All right, all right. Hold on. Now, I want to talk about this. What are the core lessons inside of Supreme Wisdom that people often misunderstand?

SPEAKER_01 39:20

Well, I'll answer that question this way. Lost found Muslim lesson number one, we are taught by the messenger, is the base of our work. Again, lost found Muslim lesson number one is the base of our work. We don't just have wisdom to learn and study, we have work to do, and as you can tell a fruit or a tree by the fruit it bears, you can tell a man by his works. What is the work that we have to do? The separation of our people from our enemies for the purpose of saving us and destroying our enemies. Lesson number one is the base of accomplishing that work. That's something we don't understand. That's something we don't focus on. Most Muslims will get their X and then forget student enrollment, forget actual facts, let alone move on to lesson number one, English lesson C one, and lesson number two. And most gods will tell you that most Muslims they have encountered don't know their lessons. Because we only learned enough lessons to get our ex. And after we got our X, you know, we got into bow ties, we got into bean pies, we got into doing for self and all kinds of other things, but we didn't make the progress. We didn't move on to lesson number one and learn it and be able to recite it. Number one, therefore, it never became the base of our work. We didn't even know the base of our work. So, how could we accomplish the work? It is amazing what we were able to do under the leadership of the most honorable Elijah Muhammad with the level of ignorance that we did it with. It's amazing. But the messenger's personality was so towering that just our love for him, just our belief in him, and I say our, I wasn't part of it, but I'm just associating myself with it. But just our love for him, our dedication and devotion to him allowed us to do some very, very miraculous things by Negro standards. But lesson number one is the base of our work.

SPEAKER_00 42:14

Now, when you say it's the base of our work, what do you mean exactly by that?

SPEAKER_01 42:20

Meaning that the questions and the answers to lost found Muslim lesson number one are basically what it takes for us to accomplish our work. Meaning, you don't know this.

SPEAKER_00 42:40

Now I get it. I get it. Yes, sir. I get it because as I'm going through it in my head, you know, what's the meaning of FOI. There you go. Okay, world is born, right? Uh uh Captain Lieutenant, right, MGTGCC. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01 43:01

So this is why, this is why those of us who say we don't need temples. Uh uh, every man gotta justify for himself. We don't want structure and leadership. You know, every man justify ho wait a minute. The duty of the captain is to give orders to the lieutenant. Is the captain God? Yes. Well, isn't the lieutenant God too? Yes. But the the the the God who is captain, his duty. Duty. This ain't no choice on his part. His duty is to give orders to another man who is God just like him. And then the lieutenant's duty is to Teach the private soldiers who are also gods, just like the lieutenant and the captain, and also train them. You see? And then you're asked, well, what is a fruit? Fruit is the best. He's constantly what? Training and conditioning himself to meet and overcome all obstacles in his path.

SPEAKER_00 44:28

Yes, sir, brother. Hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_01 44:34

His sole purpose is to deliver the dead. That's our work. His sole purpose is to deliver the dead to the Lamb of God, the most honorable Elijah Muhammad. Then you go into, well, to do this, we're compelled to be obedient, militant, humble, right? Tolerant, courteous, respectful, honest, all of those different things, right? So bottom line is you look at lesson number one, and what it says, it does not allow for unstructured, undisciplined study and application of the supreme wisdom. There have to be temples, there has to be this structure, there has to be FOI, there has to be MGT, there has to be. Without that, we cannot accomplish the work, which is delivering the dead. So if you got somebody else that you value over and above the most honorable Elijah Muhammad, other than Master Farad Muhammad, you don't understand the base of this work. The dead are to be delivered to the most honorable Elijah Muhammad. You don't just go and start giving people or selling people lessons, you bring them to Elijah. You don't give them knowledge about Elijah. That ain't what the uh lesson says. You deliver them to Elijah. You cannot deliver them to Elijah with a website. You cannot deliver them to Elijah with a Zoom call. You cannot deliver them to Elijah with just a book with some lessons and wisdom in it. You deliver them to Elijah by bringing them to the temple and having them fall in the ranks under a lieutenant given orders by a captain and the lieutenant teaching and training them. That's how this goes.

SPEAKER_00 47:12

Got you. Now, has Supreme Wisdom, well, you're kind of touching on that now, uh, so I could keep going with it. Uh, if you want to expound on this, but uh, has Supreme Wisdom been misinterpreted or misused over time?

SPEAKER_01 47:29

Absolutely, totally and completely. And I've never seen Supreme Wisdom as abused and misused as it has been since the most honorable Elijah Muhammad's departure. And every year that passes, with his absence, the abuse and misuse becomes greater in scale. Especially with the internet, especially with the internet, because you give a nut a net, you give a nut the worldwide reach of the net, and now you have empowered this nut to do more damage than they could ever have done on their own.

SPEAKER_00 48:18

Right. Indeed, indeed. Uh, how can someone apply supreme wisdom in everyday life?

SPEAKER_01 48:26

Ah, well, that's another one of those questions that I don't think any individual can give a the definitive answer. Right. You understand what I'm saying? But this is what I will say. He, a fruit, is constantly training and conditioning himself to meet and overcome all obstacles in his path. His sole purpose is to deliver the dead to the lamb of God, the most honorable Elijah. I don't deal with that 17 million stuff. That was back then. It's more than 17 million now. That's why I don't say deliver the 17 million or more dead. I just say deliver the dead. I don't care how many million it is. Let's get them. You know, deliver the dead to the lamb of God, the most honorable Elijah Muhammad. That's the only specific way to apply the supreme wisdom. Everybody wants to act like we were given this knowledge to do whatever we want to do with it. No, we were not. We were given this knowledge in a context, and within that context in which we were given the knowledge, we were also given the parameters of how to apply it in our everyday life. So for us, the way to apply it in our everyday life is in our FOI manual. That's how you apply it. For our women, the way to apply it is in Muslim girls training and general civilization class. There's no other way for you as a female to apply this supreme wisdom. You're given the what, and you are also given the how. And that takes us right back to the Quran. The Holy Quran says that Allah revealed it, but that He also brought with it the balance and the measure. Meaning, you're not just given the Holy Quran. That's why in Orthodox Islam, you have the Quran, but you also have the Sunnah of the Prophet. Right. The way the Prophet practiced andor applied it. See what I'm saying? Not just given Quran, okay. I got Quran, thanks a lot. I do what I want to do with it. No, you're given the how to apply it in the example of the prophet.

SPEAKER_00 51:13

Check. All right. Now, um, how can it how can Supreme Wisdom influence business leadership and community building? The way because I see it happening, yes, sir.

SPEAKER_01 51:29

Yeah, the way you influence that which you just mentioned is the messenger says, when you change the thinking of the people, then you also change what they'll do. So the more you build the individual, the more it affects everything done by the individual. That's why the messenger said, What we need is a Muslim politician. You see, he said, put the Muslim program to Congress. And he said, What we need is a Muslim politician. Well, if we need a Muslim politician, don't we need a Muslim entrepreneur or Muslim business person? Don't we need a Muslim educator? Yes, the wants and beliefs tell you the Muslim teachers shall be left alone to teach their people in the way of uh self-respect and dignity or something that it says. I like I'm senior moment again. But the Muslim teachers, we want our children taught, educated, and trained by their own teachers, and that the Muslim teachers shall be left alone to teach their people in the way of decency and self-respect. So we need the students of supreme wisdom in every facet of life, education, politics, business, you name it. Because when you change the thinking of the individual people, then now you're going to affect everything that they touch.

God In Person And Closing

SPEAKER_00 53:13

Actual fact. How does supreme wisdom compare to other spiritual systems like Christianity or I would say orthodox Islam?

SPEAKER_01 53:24

That's a very, very good question. I would say that one very good answer is other than any other spiritual system, the Hebrew Israelite absolutely does not bring you face to face with God. The more we ain't even talking about the dirty ones, talking about the good ones, do not bring you face to face with God. The Orthodox Muslim does not bring you face to face with God, and that's the same thing with the Christian, the kemetic, I don't care who it is. You ask anybody this question, okay, is your God a man or is your God something other than man? And if you're a Muslim in this suit and this bow tie on a podcast like this, and I ask you, okay, is uh God a man or spirit, you start getting into you start acting like Ralph Cramden on the honeymooners. Uh hummina humina humana humina humina humina humina humina humina because you know that the Muslims are hard as hell on God being a man, you don't want to accept that man is Master Farad Muhammad. You can't point to any other man and say, that's who God is. You know good and well you believe in a mystery God, which the nation of Islam stomps mercilessly. So when I ask you whether your God is a man or something other than a man, you don't really want to ask the question. You don't really want to answer the question because you know you got a mystery God. But you sitting here telling people that what you have in the way of teaching is equal to or superior to what the nation of Islam has, but the nation of Islam takes you away from the mystery God, here you come with your black version of the white man's mystery God teaching. Stop it already. If your God is not a man, if you can't tell me his name, you can't tell me who the individual, flesh and blood, live man is that is the God of what you represent. What in the world are you trying to compete with the nation of Islam for? Why are you doing that? Don't bring me, I don't care if you bring it to me in a fair, I don't give a damn if you bring it to me with a black star line. I don't care how you bring me a mystery God, get out my face. Get out my face. All faces due to Allah for the most honorable Elijah Muhammad.

SPEAKER_00 56:38

Indeed. Now, uh with that said, I'm gonna close out now. Um, but any last words you would like to, you know, you know, say to the people, um, your your um your your website or your um YouTube, you know, temple temple. Here's the email right here. N-O-Y Temple15 at AOL. That's the email if you want to reach brother Eric Muhammad.

SPEAKER_01 57:06

We're on Facebook as Muhammad Temple 15. Uh we're on YouTube, Minister Eric Muhammad. We're on uh where else are we? Facebook, YouTube, where else are we? Our Instagram is pathetic, but I'm not the kind of person that posts pictures. Like, I don't like remember you. I remember you asked me, where's your fitness video? I don't do selfies, I don't do videos. The only thing you'll ever see me posting is doing the work. You know what I'm my personality just ain't like that. You know, you you won't see me doing none of this. I don't I don't have anything to share, but the work of raising the dead and separating us from our I just don't have nothing else to share but the teaching of the most honorable. I don't find myself as an individual interesting enough to want to get you into me. Um that's not me, I'm not interested, I'm just Minister Eric.

SPEAKER_00 58:14

Okay, got you, got you. Now, uh um you know, I I don't mean to put this out there, but I have to because I heard you say it. Um, you said you you give twenty thousand dollars a year in charity. I have.

SPEAKER_01 58:28

You have, you have for the past several years, yes, sir.

SPEAKER_00 58:32

For the past several years, and that's just charity, right? It's so that's to the temple, etc. Right, nation of Islam, right? Okay, yes now, with that being said, what's your cash app?

SPEAKER_01 58:47

Uh dollar sign, capital M, capital H Capital T, and then regular EMPLE15.

SPEAKER_00 59:03

Hold on, I think I did that before. One more hold on one I I gotta put we gotta put this out there. We gotta help brother uh Eric Muhammad say that again one more time.

SPEAKER_01 59:16

Dollar sign, capital M, capital H, capital T, and then regular, not capital, E M P L E one five, meaning the number one, the number five. The MHT stands for Muhammad's temple.

SPEAKER_00 59:42

Got you, got you. On that note, thank you for coming out this evening. Thank you. Really appreciate you, brother. Uh and um hopefully we can have you back in a couple weeks. I like to do alternate, alternate Sundays. You know, every Sunday is kind of a lot for the brother. Uh uh alternate Sundays. We we're glad to have you back. Appreciate you for coming out this evening, and we are out of here. Asalam alaykum.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:12

Well alaikum salam, sir.