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Eden isn’t just a story about rules and punishment. It’s a story about how your mind learns to see. We’re joined by Rabbi Yosef Ben Yosef for a deep, practical breakdown of the Tree of Life in Judaism and why the Torah frames “life” as a choice that starts with perception, not vibes.

We walk through Genesis with a focus on Nishmat Chaim, the “breath of life,” and why Rabbi Yosef reads it as the consciousness of life. Before the fall, humanity navigates reality through truth and falsehood. After eating from the Tree of Knowledge, perception collapses into appearance-based judgment: beautiful and ugly, cool and not cool. That shift reframes shame, fear, and social comparison in a way that feels painfully modern. We also unpack the Hebrew word Elohim and its multiple meanings (Creator, angels, judges, political leaders), showing how “you will be like elohim” can point to political thinking and factional power games, not divinity.

From there, we connect Torah study to the Tree of Life itself, touch the popular “Tree of Life” in Kabbalah, and contrast it with negative theology: approaching God by removing what God is not until language runs out. We bring it back to everyday life with a blunt conversation about discernment in the age of charlatans, plus a super-chat driven detour into ancient Hebrew word roots for male and female and why “listen mode” often beats “fix mode” in relationships. If you care about Judaism, Torah, Genesis, Maimonides, Kabbalah, Hebrew language, and building real wisdom in community, this one is for you.

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Welcome And Topic Setup

SPEAKER_02

Peace World, how you doing? Welcome to another episode of NYP Talk Show. I am your brother and good host, Mikey Fever. Don't forget to comment, like, share, subscribe. We got super chats. We have merch. It's been a while since I seen you all. But I'm happy to be back on. Shout out to the brother Ron Brown, who just did his thing earlier. And we're here to rock out. Tonight we got our good brother, Rabbi Yosef. Ben Yosef. And we will be talking about the tree of life in Judaism explained by the brother. Welcome, Lovid. How you doing?

SPEAKER_00

I'm doing well, my brother. Shalom alaykum. Doing very well. Yes, sir.

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Yes, sir. Can you hear me?

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SPEAKER_02

So tonight we'll man, let me tell you. Things have been going left, man. So tonight we'll be talking about the tree of life and Judaism explained. And you know, many do know that, you know, with a tree of life, explain Judaism. It also imparts the Kabbalah. Right? Is that safe to say what you yes? Can you hear me?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, sir. I can hear you. Can you hear me? Yes, sir. Can you hear me?

SPEAKER_02

It's breaking up.

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Okay.

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Oh man, brother.

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Alright, can I be heard?

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Yeah, yeah, you can be heard. Okay. Okay. Yes, sir. Shalom Aleikum again.

Torah As The Book Of Life

Eden Choice And Consciousness

SPEAKER_00

Uh, I can go ahead and kick it off. Can you hear me? All right, so yeah, let's go ahead and kick it off. All right. So uh yeah, today we're going to be talking about the tree of life in Judaism, uh, and more particularly the tree of life in the Torah. Um, for the viewing audience, if you're not familiar with the Torah, the Torah is the first five books of the Bible and is the source text of the Jews, Hebrews, Israelites, um, all the like. All right, so those are the first five books is Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. Um, in the Quran, we are called the people of the book, right? And uh, our relationship to the creator is through a book, right? Moshe Rubinu, Moses, our great one, said uh in Exodus 32, 32, block me not out of your book. Um, for the people, if the people saying, just blot me out of your book. So even all the way to Moses, our reference to the creator has been a book. Um, and he was speaking particularly of the book of life. And I would like to quote uh St. John's College motto, which says, Facio liberos ex liberis, libraries librac, which means I make free adults from children by means of books and balances. And if we can and we can hear the the live uh root in all of those words, and we see that liberation, we see that free adults, we see that free children, we see that books and balances all have the live uh the lib um root, right? So freedom is related to being able to uh articulate and read a book, and also in the book of Psalms, it says, I come in a volume of the book that is written of me, right? These these are all associations with the Hebrew people, the Israelite nation, and its relation to the book, to where even other nations know us by the book. See, the Torah is is broken down into two categories that's Agadah, which means the telling or the revealing, and which are the narratives, and Halacha, which means to do or to walk, which are the do's and the don't do's. If you notice the Torah in Genesis does not start with the do's and don't do's, it starts with agada, it starts with a narrative, the narrative being the narrative of creation. Why do you start with a narrative? Uh, one thing about stories and narratives is that it bypasses your pre-frontal frontal cortex and allows the stories to go straight to your subconscious to where you're transformed and you're emotionally involved into the story. This happens all the time when we watch movies. There's a point when you watch a movie and it brings you into the movie, you can't define where the point is, but you feel like you're in a movie and you're emotionally engaged with the movie. So the Torah starts with a narrative so you can be emotionally involved and invested in the text. So, what do the narratives provide? And why didn't it start with Halakha the do's and don't do's? It started with the narratives because the narratives provide three things: revelation, inspiration, and ethics, the way you behave. So when we read these stories, a lot of people get hung up on if the character of the Bible, uh of the Torah or the Bible is real, but the Bible doesn't care if you think the the character is real, just like the character of the uh the boy who cried, Wolf, is that character real? We don't know, nor do we care, but we get the lesson from the story nonetheless. So, this is the story, this is the reason why we start with the story, so we can get lessons throughout the text that's applicable to real life. So, right after humankind was given the breath of life. So, we're talking about the tree of life. Adam was given what's called in Hebrew Nishmathaim. Nishmathaim means uh I will translate as they they translate it as the breath of life, but for our purposes, we have to translate, and it's best for us to translate the consciousness of life, and we'll see later why I'm translating the breath of life as the consciousness of life. So, right after uh Adam was given the Nishmat Chaim, he was given life, he was given a choice and placed eastward in Eden in a garden. So he was given consciousness, and after he received consciousness, he moved, which happens to a lot of our people who receive who get conscious, they end up moving, they end up transforming, going to another place, brought to another place via the consciousness that one has with that the most high breathes into you. So we see in the book of Genesis, chapter two, which is the source, the source, uh source sex. In verse 16, he's commanded that you shall eat of all the trees of the garden, and then in verse 17, we see the fine print which says, But do not eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for in the day that you eat of it, you shall surely die. Right, and so we read that, and we see that commandment given to Adam Harishon, the first man, the first Adam, him not knowing what the reason was, just like a master teacher or a kung fu master, a karate master, martial arts master, uh would tell his student to do A, B, and C, and the student doesn't necessarily know why they're doing it. So that's the type of relationship the most high when he says he commanded, he's giving you these things to do, but you might not know the reason why you're doing it, but it's going to benefit you in the long run. I got you. So there was a Moorish Israelite by the name of Moshe bin Maima, also called Moshe bin Mima, known as the Rumbam, who was asked the question by an intelligent man who studied philosophy, who studied logic, and was reading the text of the Bible, specifically the story of eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, and the question uh that he had for Rambam was this How is a man rewarded for uh for eating of the tree of knowledge and good and evil if knowing the difference between the knowledge of good and evil is the height of development of morality? How could a man be complete in his morality? How could a man be complete in the height of his intelligence if he doesn't know the difference between good and evil? Which a lot of readers ask why why would the most high why would God prevent him from eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil shouldn't he know how to distinguish between the knowledge of good and evil? Now, this is this is a logical question, but it presents a problem of the learned reader because it assumes that the highest form of intelligence is to know good from evil, exactly. Which seems and now again it seems to be a fair question, but you're assuming that that's the highest form of intelligence, and also you're assuming that when Adam made when God made Adam and Eve that they weren't perfect when he made them in his image and likeness. So most of our viewing audience may not know the relationship that Adam and Eve had with the world before they ate of the tree of knowledge and good and evil. When they were created, they were created perfect, they were created after the image and likeness of the creator, not the form in the physical sense, which is a different Hebrew word in Hebrew's Besselum in the image or the uh the shadow of, but it's not a form, it's not the word for form as in a physical form. So the image and likeness of the creator is the ability to program yourself, consciousness, consciousness, your consciousness. Now you're you're not able to. The animals don't have the image of the creator because they survive off instinct. Yep, they have automatic programming. If a dog needs to go urinate, the dog urinates. If a if a bird needs to poop, the bird poops. They are they are going straight off instant, they can't hold themselves like we can hold ourselves and have a conscious decision. Say, I'm not going, I'm gonna stop myself from relieving myself. So the ability to program yourself is the image and of the likeness of the creator.

Truth Before Good And Evil

SPEAKER_02

Exactly. So I have a question before you go, before you go forward with that, you you just he just unpacked a lot there, and that's that's pretty deep. I hope people go back and catch on because you just gave a lot of information as far as the create the creation aspect and the name, the words used, and the language, how it's how stories depicted from ending to the beginning. And like you know, from here in the US, we go from left to right, but over there in the east, it's from right to left. So it takes you from the ending into the genesis. It brings back to the genesis, so you understand, you get a clear picture of what's happening. Um, what was humanity's relationship to the tree of life before the fall?

SPEAKER_00

That's an excellent question. Man's relationship to the tree of life was that he had a particular understanding of truth. He understood uh the difference between truth and falsehood. Yeah, so he understood up, down, left, right, east, west, north, south, his understanding was uh only by means of truth and falsehood. It was not by means of good and bad. See in the Judeo-Arabic, the word for good and bad is uh in in Hebrew is Tobara, good and bad. That's how it's translated. But in the Judeo-Arabic, which is Arabic, the Arabic language written in the Hebrew script, like you mentioned, from right to left, it reads, it gives two different words for good and bad, and those words are Hassan and Khapeth, which means beautiful and ugly. So this was the tree that the most high didn't want them to eat because they couldn't have the perception of the lower senses of your five senses to where you think you you're using only your senses to say this is good and ugly, and by them eating of this fruit, they saw the world only through good and ugly, cool and not cool.

SPEAKER_02

Polarities, yep.

SPEAKER_00

So the first thing that if you notice in the story, the first thing that happens when they eat a tree, they notice something that they didn't notice before. In the end of chapter two, it says that Adam and Eve were naked and they were not ashamed. But as soon as they ate up this tree, because they saw them set their nakedness as ugly, they covered themselves with fig leaves. Just like somebody uh in your school, if you were in elementary school, said you had a big head, you didn't know until somebody said something to you. So now you wear a hat all the time.

SPEAKER_02

You were tainted now, yeah.

Elohim Meanings And Political Thinking

SPEAKER_00

You're tainted to the outside, so their minds were tainted, and the Bible says, and their eyes were opened, which we should know is is not a literal opening because they weren't blind before they ate of the tree, they didn't have a different body before they ate of the tree of knowledge and good and evil, but their eyes were open to a whole new type of world of consciousness. So the serpent in Genesis chapter 3 said, If you eat of this tree of knowledge and good and evil, you shall be like it's translated like God, exactly, knowing the difference between good and evil. Now, what why is that a problem? The Hebrew word for Elohim doesn't just mean God, the creator, it has four different meanings, and this is what the Rambaum said in his book on the Lalat Al-Haleen, or uh in he that's the Judeo-Arabic, and the Hebrew is Morehebuchim, the guide to the perplexed. He said that all Hebrews had called Ebre, all Hebrews knew that Elohim had four different meanings during that time. This was about a thousand years ago. He said, We all know there's a difference, but the translators don't know when to translate the word Elohim for God into the other three translations, a lot of times, which are we know God the creator, angels, judges, and political leaders. So when the serpent said to Adam or Eve, rather, that when you eat up this tree of knowledge of good and evil, that you will be like God's, he wasn't talking about the creator. The Elohim was used twice in that verse. The first one is talking about the creator, the second time it's talking about the last rendition or the last homonym of the word Elohim, which means political leaders. Now we know one thing about political leaders: you got the democratic or republican, you got red versus blue, you got the elephant versus donkey, you have you have one side that looks ill to the other side, and the other side looks ill to the other side, and both are at an antagonistic relationship with one another, and they can't meet in the middle because they are on both sides on either side of the game.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00

So, this type of this is who Adam and Eve became like. They didn't become like the creator, knowing the good and evil, they became like political princes, knowing the difference between what's cool, was not cool, what's hot was not, and they're I and their and their vision and their consciousness changed from true and false to what's cool and what's not cool after they ate of the tree of knowledge, the good and evil.

SPEAKER_02

Got you, gotcha. That's deep right there. Wow, so you say that you know, after they they consumed from tree knowledge, they were expelled from the garden, and we know that's when the fall of humanity had taken place from the grace, the grace from God slowly they descended into like mortal beings, right?

SPEAKER_00

Right, and so what happened when they got kicked out of the garden was actually a merciful act by the creator because he did not want them to live their entire lives uh into eternity in a state of looking at things as cool and not cool, beautiful and ugly. He did not want them to stay in that state for eternity, so in his mercy, he kicked them out the garden so they can't die. Now, we we I said pay attention to the way I translated the phrase Nishmat Chaim, which means the I translate as the consciousness of life. Now, in the book, it says that they shall sure in that day they shall surely die. How did they die in that day? They died to the consciousness that was only able to see true and false. That's how they died in that day. It wasn't a literal death in the sense we see they live on and they have children afterward. So we know it's not a literal death. This is a metaphorical death, a death of consciousness to where they they can't eat from the tree of life and they can't look at the world between true and false anymore, like they could, and they have to perceive the world uh through through uh beautiful and ugly, and so their their consciousness was warped. And if I may, we see Adam say something to his wife after he was kicked out, after he ate of the tree and I was in good even. So his consciousness is different. What did he say to his wife? He said, You are the the ace heim, you are the uh I'm sorry, the aim chain, you are the mother of all living. Yes, now how could she be the mother of all living if we know that the the beasts were created on the fifth day, the sun, the sun and moon, and stars created on the fourth day, the the the the all the living, uh uh the the uh grass and herbs and trees made on the third day. How could she be his consciousness changed and he developed into something that we still have with us to this day? What uh uh a sexual kind or sex connotation do we give to Earth? Some people call it what earth, mother earth. So he started putting these ideas out here that there's a mother of earth, and we adopted and we grew up knowing about the mother earth. Where do we get these ideas from? We got these ideas from a man who uh perceived the world and over-glorified his wife to this status, to where she was the ruler uh and the mother of all living when that wasn't the case.

SPEAKER_02

Oh man, you gonna you gonna starve the pot with that, wouldn't you? Oh man, they're gonna they're gonna say you're you're you're you're misogynist with that perspective, you know. Um don't want to touch that right there. So, like, it's a question I want to ask you right here. What does the act like why did the creator prevent us from accessing the tree of life? Like we therefore create an image of consciousness and stuff like that. It falls back to that concept of I am a jealous God and such like that, not to um not to be like you know, be combative with me, be submissive.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's a good question. He he wanted us to eat from the tree of life again, but he wanted to give us a choice because uh we he didn't create he created humans, he didn't create robots. We have in order to show love to somebody properly, you have to have options, and this is one thing in Judaism that Judaism teaches about uh our relation to sin, uh uh unlike our uh Christian brothers and sisters who look at sin as something to obliterate, and sin is something that you that you uh that you completely destroy and never to encounter again. We don't we don't see sin in that way in Genesis chapter four. It says uh it says uh you shall uh sin crouches at your door, speaking to Cain and Abel, specifically Cain, but you shall be ruler of over it, right? So we're taught that we have to rule over sin, but if we don't rule over it, it will rule over us, of course, right? And so our relationship to to man being fallen, our relationship to the world via the sin is that we overcome sin by our actions by hard work, but not by you know, and I don't want to be discouraged into my Christian brothers and sisters, but not by putting someone in front of that uh um sin and taking that sin for us, and that we personally have to overcome um our relation to sin, which means the word means just to miss the mark. Gotcha. Mishap stand is is at the door, but we we shall rule over mishap, we shall rule over sin. This is what the most high told Cain before he killed his own brother.

SPEAKER_02

Basically, you must practice restraints and proper discernment, discipline.

SPEAKER_00

And all you're getting in the book of Proverbs, it says, and all you're getting, get understanding. Now, that word for understanding is be not, and be now is often translated as understanding, but it's it's actually a better translator of what you said. And all you're getting, get discernment, yeah. And all you're getting, get insight. Wisdom is the principal thing, it's the first thing that you get. And in Judaism, wisdom is something that can come to anybody, it can come to a child, it comes in flashes, and it comes first, even in the book of Proverbs, it says, Wisdom is the principal thing. Get wisdom, but not all you're getting get discernment, meaning that you have to work for discernment. Wisdom sometimes you can have doubts of uh bouts of wisdom that falls upon you without you having to work for it, but you have to work for discernment and you have to work for insight and understanding.

SPEAKER_02

Tell them ket the hochma beemas, people. Um is the tree of life meant to be taken literally or symbolically in a Torah?

The Serpent As Imagination

SPEAKER_00

So that's a great question. So as far as the meant to be taken symbolically, and we have to look at the tree of life and its relation, uh, the symbolic relation, its relation with the Nachaj, which is the serpent, right? It says the serpent is more subtle than all the beasts of the field. Yes, and because of the serpent, uh, we know that Eve was tricked because of the serpent, but the serpent represents a particular faculty in our mind, and that faculty represents the imaginative faculty of our minds, right? So Adam and Eve didn't have that this unbounded imagination before they ate of the tree of knowledge and good and evil. But when Eve said to that tree, this is a tree that I find pleasant in my eyes, the fruit are pleasant in my eyes. One thing about fruit is most fruit doesn't look pleasant. Yep, it's not a beautiful most fruit, fruit aren't necessarily beautiful before they become fruit, their uh their flowers are beautiful, but then the fruit itself isn't beautiful. But she in her mind already imagined this fruit to look good, which fruit doesn't look good. And at that point, she was already in the the realm of imagination. And when it says that the serpent was more subtle than any other beast, it's talking about your imaginative faculty was more was more uh uh crafty than any other faculty in your mind, is the faculty of your imagination.

SPEAKER_02

Got you, got you. So, as a and peace of the gods of earth, because they always say we bring we bring information, facts from knowledge to born, right? That's the framework it works within Supreme Mathematics, right? Right, it's the same concept within that framework of the tree of life, it it is to bring something into creation, right? So that that right there itself is a powerful framework, it's a map, it's a spiritual map to connect the universe, you and the universe as one to bring something into fruition. So, what does the tree of life represent in Jewish spiritual thought?

SPEAKER_00

In Jewish spiritual spiritual thought, the ace Haim. We even sing a song called Ace Chaim Le Machazim Kimbo, where we're talking about the tree of life, those who partake of it shall live and we shall live in in continuity, and we're speaking about the Torah itself, we're speaking about the instructions of the Torah is called a Ace Chaim. So, the again going back to the beginning, we're called the people of the book because the book gives us Chaim, it gives us life by taking upon the Torah itself. We know the creator and and his awesomeness is above all creation and is above life itself, and even our words trying to describe the creator as creator as life don't suffice to who he is, but he gave us this vehicle called Chaim to interact with the conscious world as we know it. And so we have the Nishmat, we have the Nishmat Chaim, so we can live here, and this is why in Judaism, uh, and on Earth, particularly in Judaism, uh, we say we can't keep Torah on any other planet but this one, because the Torah and the Tree of Life was for this particular planet, and for us here, because a lot of individuals try to uh this for use this form of escapism to where they try to escape to the stars when the Almighty didn't want you to be in the stars, even though we have stories of us coming from the stars, but the purpose of us was to be on earth and not only to be on earth, but to rule the earth and subdue it and have dominion over this plane. So the NISP, the the Ace Chaim, the tree of life, was particularly for this plane. Now let's go back to when uh it said that they the serpent said you shall be like uh political princes. Weren't they the only people on earth at the time? So how could they be like something that didn't exist?

SPEAKER_02

Probably does the serpents um uh are foreseen something.

SPEAKER_00

So exact so what happened. The book of better sheep, the word better sheep beginning, it means in a beginning, yeah, or at a beginning, it's not bada sheep at the beginning, this is at a beginning. So this is we see, and we see that the most high, the creator, is a creator and a destroyer. Because listen, in the within six chapters of Genesis, we see he's already ready to destroy the earth and start over again. He has no issue with starting the earth over because he's a creator and a destroyer, God and also even with Moses Rabinu, Moses our great one. The most high in uh in the book of Exodus wanted to destroy the nation of Israel and said, Moses, I'm gonna start over with you. So we we see the that the most high has multiple projects, our projects being the most recent called humankind, or we call it our dumb, being the most recent iteration of his project. But we know that he will start and stop a project at a drop of a dime because he's a creator, and that's what creators do. If they don't like that song, they're gonna trash it.

Kabbalah And Negative Theology

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SPEAKER_00

Uh it they're they're loosely interrupted, so they're loosely into um they're loosely connected. Let me say that. Because Kabbalah was started in the around the 14th century as we know it today. Now, the word Kabbalah comes from the word kibel, which means to receive, to receive to the reception. This is and it comes, it's one part of a two-part series with the masorah meaning to give, and the kabbalah meaning to receive, and this was the relationship between uh master and student, rabbi and Talmudin, Moses and Joshua passed down. You had this give and take relationship. The Kabbalah was just the take part of the relationship. So, what happened with the Kabbalah and the separate road and the tree of life, as they put it, uh, I feel um, and in a lot of my consensual and how I was trained as a rabbi, is that these are actually barriers, and and and this may shock your your audience. These are actually barriers to know the creator, these different chokma, bina, and and things of that nature that you see on the sephiroth, the 12 uh uh the 12 parts of of the tree of life as it's taught in Kabbalah. We look at it as barriers to the creator because we know and what we practice is knowing the creator or getting to know the creator through negation, meaning that we know the creator by not putting these attributes with human words, but we know the creator by removing what we know that he's not first. So elaborate on what we do to get to know the creator, and as you begin to as also if you heard the concept of Sim Soon when things continue to break down and things of that, it's almost like the inverse of Simsum, as opposed to the creator coming down and to having how all these levels and to interact with his creation. For those who are who are familiar with Simsum, the way that we've learned and we've been taught is just the opposite that we peel back the onion layers of what he's not until we get to the point where we don't have any words left, and then you begin to interact with what he is by removing what he's not, and it's also called uh in the Latin, it's called um I can't it uh it slips my mind, but we uh do it uh we remove all the things that again that he is not in order to find out who he is, right? And this is how we uh come to the creator and get to know him is through negation, through um negative theology, as it's called.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, I got you. So the tree of life, as we put it, right? Within those barriers, right? And you say our people were the people of the book. Where in the tree of life do we fall at?

SPEAKER_00

That's a that's a great question. So in the book of Devereen, the book of Deuteronomy, it says something profound. Um, in the last few chapters, it says, Um, you shall choose life and good. So it commands us that and tells us that life is a choice, and that is a choice that that we are to choose the life and good. So life is something, and we we can be alive, but not have the consciousness or the life that he told us to choose. So when we when it says choose basar basar chai, basar bakhay, choose life, it's a commandment to his people that life, just like it was in the garden, was a choice, and that life come comes by means of the Torah. Gotcha, gotcha, and adhering to the Torah.

Male And Female In Ancient Hebrew

SPEAKER_02

I got you. Some um, I had to remove somebody on here because you know, usually I don't let people put their comments here. Some person, I don't know what's their problem, trying to put something foolish up here, so we gotta boot them up out of here. Hey, we got a super chat that just came in from creation of boundless universe. Is there a difference between a male and female created to have dominion and Adam form from the dust and eve from his rib?

SPEAKER_00

Let's talk about it. I'm glad you asked that question. So the word for male in Hebrew is the word Zachar. Zachar, uh, in the Paleo Hebrew, the proto-Sionatic script in the Paleo Hebrew were pictures just like hieroglyphs. So for male, it was Zion Chaf Raish. The Zion is a picture of a tool. The chaf is a picture of a the cuff of your hand, that's where we get the word cuff from. It's actually a Hebrew derived chaf. It looks like the letter C looks like your hand like this, and then we have the raish. The raish is a picture of a man's head, yeah. So a male, when he was given dominion, he was given dominion as someone who has tools that he control that he holds in his head. As a man or as a male, one thing that raises our masculinity is having the right tools that we have in our head to be able to manage our environment? This is what a male is, according to the ancient Hebrew text, according to the paleo hebrew, the proto-Sionatic Hebrew, the oldest form of Hebrew, the picture form a man is someone who has tools that he holds in his head, and he knows how to use those tools in his head. How many men do we know sitting in jail right now who didn't have the right tools in their head?

SPEAKER_02

Many, many far too much.

SPEAKER_00

How many brothers we know on the street who didn't hold the right tools in their head? And because it they lost they lost their male status, and now they're being told what to do by superior because they didn't have the right tools in their head. So when it comes to male and female, the male is a person who has a the right tools that he holds in his head. So let's talk about female. If you if you will, let's talk about females.

SPEAKER_02

Definitely, let's go into it.

SPEAKER_00

Females is the Hebrew word is nakebah, nekeba is noon, cough, bake, hay, which means female. The noon is a picture of a seed, the kof is a picture of a reflection of a sunset, sunset. It's like a circle and a line in between it. The bait is a picture of a house, and the hay is a picture of someone's hands up as in there showing emotion. So a woman or a female, according to the ancient Hebrew, as I interpret it, is a person who continues the noon, the seed, seed means continuity, continues to reflect. Reflect what the bait debate is is the the word for house in Hebrew, which means reflect the internal, what the internal hate, the internal emotions. Yeah, so if you want to keep a woman in her feminine, you have to allow her to continue to reflect the emotion she has inside. This is the the beauty of the the Hebrew text. Yeah, if we knew it, we'll it'll be easier for us as men to know that we need to talk less and let her talk more because the the number one part of body part that we can give to our women is not is our let me just put it like this is our ears.

SPEAKER_02

Hold on, hold on. Let me give you hold on, let me give you some because that I learned that. You know, you know, us men, we were taught wrong. You know, it took me time as you know, as I got older, like by my mid-20s, I started learning more. Like, you know what? A lot of the times they it comes at them as you know nagging and stuff, but that's their own, that's their um way of processing their emotion and expressing themselves. Because some you gotta also factor in the emotional intelligence aspect also. She may not know how to process her emotions, so she's just thinking, I'm just gonna talk. This energy that's within me, I don't know how to contain it, I don't know how to control it, so I just gotta talk. And we just gotta sit there sometimes, just be like, listen to it, or be like, you know what, I'm going for a walk. Because there are times um my lady and I will have some differences, and you know, I may not have an answer for her at the moment. It's not being disrespectful, it's just like you know before I respond before I react, I want to respond. Notice the difference that we I don't want to react, I want to respond. I want to process what you're saying so we can come to an understanding. So, yes, it's important for a woman to vent so that she can have a healthy feminine energy.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely, and brother Mikey, and one thing, and I and I used to teach on this, is one thing we have to do as men is know because we have the tools to fix things, we automatically go into fix mode when we need to go into listen mode, which is the conundrum because that's our nature, it's to fix stuff exactly.

SPEAKER_02

Let me vent. I'm like, all right, I get it. You're venting, but I'm I'm giving you some tools. This is what you need to do. Like, approach it like this. Just let me vent. I'm like, okay, and that's what I do now. Just like, let me just shut up, right?

SPEAKER_00

Or you can give them a story. So you could do this. Say, are you venting? Do you want me to to to help you solve the part uh the problem, or are you just venting? And that way you know how to switch. Okay, I'm in listen mode.

SPEAKER_02

Because go ahead, I said more power to you, but it took me time to learn that.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yes, oh yes. After learning the Hebrew language and after seeing this in the Torah myself, I said, you know what? The most high was showing us how to navigate uh these waters called women and and and and they're feminine in the text, and we just paid attention to it and we knew it. But now that we know how that we just allow them to talk, and that's a part of their nature. Uh, when we stop them from doing that, that's when they become more masculine because we're stopping and preventing their nature from coming out, and that's when they they start internalizing. Actually, things start happening internally to their bodies because they're not able to speak. One more one important part about the woman is that again, her mouth, let her mouth let her speak, let her vent, let her emotions flow. Because uh, again, we're fixers and there are emotional uh roller coasters, and sometimes we just gotta be alone for the ride.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I'm telling you, you like you you don't know who you're coming home to, so like come from work, you open that door, you look like all right, you don't know who's there, but okay, you took so around, but you know, beautifully said, man, sisters must let them allow them to vent and express themselves.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02

Um, has the tree of life influenced other religions?

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely, absolutely. So, one thing about Judaism is that um we may claim to have a particular relationship with the creator, but we don't claim to have the only relationship with the creator. We have a prophet uh that by the name of Bil Am or Balaam, who's not an Israelite, but yet we see the creator speaking to this non-Israelite prophet in the text. We even have an entire Torah portion named after him, and he's not an Israelite. We also have uh um Jeffroh, which is Moses' father-in-law, who wasn't an Israelite, who practiced a different religion, who was able to teach and train Moses on how to deal with all the people that were coming to him and asking them questions, and we have an entire portion named after him. So we see and we we see the most high interacting with the uh Egyptians, we see him interacting with the Midianites and people of that nature. So when it comes to the knowledge of the creator, we have our peace, and we're familiar with our peace, but we are only on one side of that tree of life because all of us are made in the create in the uh the uh the the image and likeness of the creator, regardless Israelite or not, and this is what my Israelite brethren um wouldn't like me to say. They would like to say, Oh, we only have the we the only ones who have the claim to the creator, but we don't. We have one uh angle to the creator because the creator is so massive that tree of life is so big, we can't even see who's on the other side.

SPEAKER_02

Exactly. Beautifully said, um, what are the consequences? Like, I feel like I want to know from your perspective, like in relationship to male native people, black people in the world, right? I I have heard from the Hebrew Israelites that be in the streets, there's that that would say they would mention that our people are in this predicament because they lost um connection and disrespect the principles and the laws of our forefathers, right? From your perspective, how did our people, and when I say our people, whether you could self black, more, you go by your nationality, indigenous whatsoever, how did we form this position that we in?

SPEAKER_00

Well, that's well, we gotta go back to we gotta go back to the street. So our relationship. With imagination is unbounded. Because we don't see reality as it is, is why we're in the predicament that we're in today. We continue to in the black community, we see uh charlatans able to come into our community and able to fool our people to give them millions of dollars who have no financial background, but yet because they can talk smooth and dress nice, they're able to get millions of dollars from people without any uh POC or proof of concept. Because our relationship with imagination is unbounded, imagination in itself isn't a bad thing, but if it's unbounded from truth and falsehood, if we don't ask these questions, does this person have a financial background? Have they ever run a hedge fund before? These are the questions that other nations ask. But because we're in the condition that we're so trodden down uh by by white people, we're so trodden down by the pale nations, we're so trodden down by these people that we had we hope and we we depend on imagination. Uh, and we try we play the imagination lottery.

SPEAKER_02

My messiah complex, we're looking for a messiah.

SPEAKER_00

We play, we play the imagination like we're looking for a messiah, we're looking for somebody to come deliver us, and we we will find we'll find the most dirtiest person that we know to try to deliver us, knowing they have this background, which isn't in whatever field they're teaching. But because we want to believe that we're gonna get pulled out of our situation so quickly if we give this person this money and we pay for this course or we do this thing with this person who doesn't have a background in this thing, because our relationship with imagination is off, we're gonna continue to get duped until we really settle in our reality and know the difference between true and false. Take good and ugly and cool and not cool, but we stuck in cool, they look good, they have a bitly, they they look, they are appealing to the eye, they have a nice suit on, they have an appearance of a nice house, they have all these nice things. So we look at that, but we're not asking the right questions.

SPEAKER_02

They get stuck on the in the charisma, or they exactly I'm gonna take you into promised land. I promise you, therefore, my people.

SPEAKER_00

All the other people, other nations and other people groups aren't going for it.

SPEAKER_02

I don't, man, because yo, I love my people, man. But it's like yo, we we we're easily sold. I gotta put all I gotta do is put on some regalia, as you say, have some people behind me. You know what I'm saying? I can be like, Yeah, I own this whole block right here. I'm building a small village over here. Come over here and move over here with me. This is what's gonna go down. I'll talk like this. I'm downloading information into my brain. Yes, and therefore, you know, you go take a poop in the woods and you're gonna live in this jungle with me. And I'm trying to give this inf man. Shut up, man.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you. And that's what we need. We need more people like you saying, shut up. We need more people criticizing these individuals from a standpoint and true and false. Like, who is this person? What is their background? Can they even provide you what they tell you that they're gonna provide you for? And if not, leave them alone, regardless of how charismatic they are. And I've almost fell prey to these these guys, too. Giving them money, have to chase them down. You supposed to be sending me this book, not getting the book. Like, wait a minute.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, they they're gonna use it.

SPEAKER_00

You promised me you was gonna give me this thing. You promised me you was gonna, I was gonna get my nationality, and I was gonna be able to maneuver around with this nationality card, and I was gonna be able to do all these different things. No, wait a minute. Now, I'm not able, are you able to do this stuff you telling me that I can do?

SPEAKER_02

So, well, you got caught up in that what you got, you got body slam on the side of the highway and paperwork was flying over the place, they go at you out there.

SPEAKER_00

No, I'm just saying, no, they didn't. Luckily, I didn't go, I didn't get that far into it. But I'm just saying these are stories that are happening to brothers who are receiving inheritance from their parents and grandparents, and they giving these charlatans money based upon imagination, based upon them wanting to be that way and them really not being that way. And this is what we go back to in all your getting, get discernment.

SPEAKER_02

Exactly. Hold on, hold on a second. We got somebody who gives a super chat, they get caught up in the front creative universe. Appreciate the super chat. Thank you so much. Yeah, it's unfortunately there's there's too many charlatans within this so-called um conscious community, and I'm gonna say this. You know, I'm saying this is not brother Ron's perspective, this is my perspective. Too many charlatans came up, came about, as you said, ran off with the people's money, you know, sold them, sold them their hope. Next thing, only thing you know, next thing they got exposed. They end up in a hotel with a little girl now doing 70 years.

SPEAKER_00

Anyway, talk about it, talk about it.

SPEAKER_02

Next, next, next talk about it. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely, that's the truth. We can't run away from it, and that's the truth. What's happening? I'm not trying to put anybody down. Yeah, but yes, meaning one thing we're trying to do is have more accountability, the ability to account for what people are doing in our community. We can't sit back and take this no-snitching culture and think that it's cool for these people to take advantage of thousands and millions of dollars that these people have gotten based upon based upon imagination and falsehood. Yeah, we can't we can't do that any longer in 2026.

Sharing Tools Not Hoarding Power

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you got people moving into the into the woods with you like this. Uh, I don't want to say these dudes' names. And again, I don't want to come out. Oh, you just trying to take another black brother down. No, I'm not taking black brother down. I'm taking these predators because not only do we have deviant sexual predators, we got predators that prey on your hope and desperation. So all that has to be outed. We cannot move forward if we allow people to come in and snake your people, scam a lot of money, and do nothing to pay them back whatsoever. You know what I'm saying? Because we got we gotta correct ourselves, man. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00

Now, and this is going and going back to the trade now that those will be like political leaders because these political leaders they will have the information because they they know what's good and what's bad and what's hiding, what's not, and since that since they have that that information, they have this hierarchy over you because they have the information and you don't. I want people equipped with the information so we all can be on the same level. I don't want you to have to come to me and say, Oh man, uh Rabbi Yose Ben Yosef, he got all the information, so I gotta get gotta come to him. No, I'll give you the tools, I'll give you the books. Read these books, I'll give you these books to read yourself so you can come to the same conclusion. Not with me lording this information on you, but us living in a horizontal society and not a vertical one.

Atlanta Community And Reading List

SPEAKER_02

All right, somebody just said this right here. I am interested in want to join. I live in Stone Mountain. I heard you were in Atlanta.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, yes, I am. Yes, I am, and I will uh try to message you uh after the show, um, so we can connect my brother, and I believe it's my brother I see Haru, to who terri 1329. We can definitely try to connect. I have a um, you know, I'm starting a congregation here in the metro Atlanta area right now. We're more so virtual, we meet from time to time, and I'm working with um I often visit or I me, which is a congregation in Atlanta, um, that's been around for a little while now, and I congregate with them. But yeah, I would love to, you know, to meet my brethren. Um, and so we can build because you know we need another representation of what Israelites look like, as opposed to the ones that are uh on the street screaming um at how bad of a person you are because you you know you live the life the way you live life. We don't we don't take that approach here. Um, and we we're not uh against anybody who who practices whatever religion they practice. We're not I'm not against the person because I know the creator um is his his spirit and his uh his knowledge is spread throughout the earth and it's contained in in I would say almost all religions, right? So um, but that's not who we are.

SPEAKER_02

I got a question. What books can one um begin to read if they want to start this journey on becoming involved in the tree of life, learning the your perspective of Hebrew Judaism? What books should one pick up?

SPEAKER_00

So one book uh outside of Torah, which is the first five books of the Bible, um, one book is called The Um More Nebuchim. Or let me the English is called The Guide to the Perplexed, right? And that book is written by the Rambaum again, is a Morris Israelite about a thousand years ago, who was um who lived in Egypt, who lived in Spain, and was able to guide people to the same things that I addressed here in this podcast is based upon what he addressed because this is what how all Hebrews looked at the text. So I would say the guide to the perplexed, because it's written for those people who can't figure out why this text is written the way it is. He pretty much answers a lot of questions that we have about the book of Genesis, about how who God is, how to to meet the creator, how to have negative uh theology, meaning taking away from what God is not to be able to find out who he is. You can find that in the um the guide to the perplexed by the rum bomb. So pick please pick that up if you're interested in what I'm talking about. It's based upon that book.

SPEAKER_02

Gotcha, got you, man. So it's the Torah's thoughts on the Masotoric text or the stone edition touric. Is that one name?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think all of them are good. The Masoretic test text is good, has his advantages and disadvantages. The stone edition Tanakh is good as well. The King James is good, 1611 is good as well. See, I'm not a type of person who um who who would disparage other books, right? The King James is going to be a translation of the of the uh the Hebrew Bible and the Greek New Testament. There's Stone Edition Tanakh is a is a is a good, a pretty good uh translation of the Tanakh or the or the Old Testament. And the Masoretic text is just an a thousand a thousand-year-old um text that was written by um actually Karaites, those Jews who don't believe in the uh the Talmud or anything like that. They actually made the Masoretic text and they had a particular way they pronounce the text. Um, but it's not it's not, you know, it's not there that it has its issues too, but not to deter anybody because that's what we translate our our um our Bible from is from the Masoretic text. But I'm honest to say that you know it's it's uh it's it's a great text, but it's still it has certain spots, is it's it has certain spots that has issues in it, but um again, not to deter anybody from the Master Reddit text, it's just um um something to look into and it's something definitely to study if you do know Hebrew because that's what Master Reddit text is written in straight uh Kitabi Read, written in the language of Hebrew.

SPEAKER_02

The quickest I got the the most I could do with Hebrew as I can remember is Aleph Def Def Aleph F.

SPEAKER_00

Yep, I love faith, I love bait, vape, gimmo dialed, hate I love yep, mem water, yep, yeah, very powerful, very powerful language.

Allah Elohim And Idolatry Context

SPEAKER_02

And each each letter has uh attribute, numeric attribute, so it's also it's very mathematical and powerful as well. Yes, um, somebody has a question here. I mean, a statement. He said the truth is Israelites' true God is Allah. My Quran says this, and they went astray worshiping idols, idol tree.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, some some Israelite, some Israelites did go into idolatry, and again, I'm I'm one to be honest, right? Some some Israelites did go into idolatry, as a matter of fact, and and and it's okay to say the true God is Allah. I don't my forefathers, rabbi Rabbi uh Ford, use the word Allah all the time, so I don't have an issue with the Arabic version of Elohim, which is Allah, is it's no I have no issue. Um, the book the the Hebrew Bibles, the word Elohim is plural. Why is the word Elohim plural? It's written to people who were former polytheistic people. The Bible is written in the language of men for men to understand. It would have been very hard for the people during Moses' time to understand Eloh, which is the singular version of Elohim, because they believed in many gods. Yeah, so when you say they fall into idolatry, it was not hard. And this is why at Harsey Nine, the revelation of Harsey Nine at Mount Sinai, first thing he said was I'm gonna talk. I can talk about Ben Ami, yeah, and the Black Hebrew Israelites as well. Just give me one moment. But at Harsey at the at Harsey 9, you mentioned earlier about him being a jealous god, meaning that he can't intol he can't tolerate infidelity. He said, I brought you out of Egypt. Lo Akareen, you shall you shall not have any other powers before me. This first thing he said, you shall not have any gods before me, because he knew they had an affinity towards other gods, and having one god is a very hard concept, and so the language had to compromise to use the word Elohim as opposed to Eloh, so they can actually communicate with the people because having one God was just something that was so uh out of the question that they had to use Elohim in the language in order to communicate properly with them.

Ben Ami And The Dimona Hebrews

SPEAKER_02

Got you, got you. Oh, creative balance universe. Thank you again for the super chat. Much appreciated. And the question that he or she's asking your thoughts on Ben Amin and the Black Hebrew Israelites.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, I love I love the I love Ben Amin and his group. He's he's no longer with us, uh Zekron Oliver Ka, uh, Blessed Memory, and his group, the Demona. Uh, they call themselves the African Hebrew Israelites, they don't call themselves the Black Hebrew Israelites, and they will and they will correct you if you call them black Hebrew Israelites because they consider themselves the African Hebrew Israelites. Now, they but they live in Demona, Israel, we just got struck by some shrapnel from the missiles from uh uh from Iran from Iran.

SPEAKER_02

Peace to those people.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, man, and may may the creator send them a speedy blessing of Refuge Lima, a complete healing uh be upon those who are injured from the shrapnel because unfortunately the Demona community is right next to the nuclear reactor. So Ben Ami uh Ben Ami bin Israel uh was an Israelite who left from Chicago in the 60s, who left with a group of people who went to uh Israel via Liberia. They lived in Liberia and they ended up moving to Israel and created the largest African-American group outside of America, lives in Israel. So Ben Ami Carter, I can only give him kudos because he did what most Hebrews are afraid to do, which is actually go back into the land, go back and actually learn the language and teach their children and so forth, and have your own schools, have your own dietary laws. And and one thing you got to find about find out about our groups is that usually we have a dietary component with with these religious groups, right? And that's how you when you see the nation of Islam and you see the way they have the and they have a book that's a message to their people. Ben Ami had a book called God the Black Man, the truth. When I read that, that changed my life, right? Because the way he was speaking, he spoke in a way uh that I will understand as a as a black American. I understood how he spoke because my people comes from the same people he comes from. Okay, so I give kudos to and I have close relationships to the African Hebrew Israelite. That's my family. Every time that I see them is love, I continue to learn from them because they actually, again, uh had enough um had enough energy to go all the way into Israel and actually live in the land of Israel, create their own dietary laws and create their own way of living their life, um, outside of the outsider. So kudos to and to uh bin Ami and the African Hebrew Israelite. All right, this is the last Israel.

SPEAKER_02

This is the last one before we get up out of here. Peace to Raphael Moore, and good looking out for this.

SPEAKER_00

Raphael Shalom Aleikum, Islam, my brother.

SPEAKER_02

Rabbi Yosef is one of my teachers, noble brother. That's peace right there.

Conversion Realities And Closing

SPEAKER_00

And that's Sikh Raphael. Um, Sikh Raphael of um MSCA 19, who just commented the leader there. Definitely see. Do you do conversions? I've been looking for a black Judaic congregation. We're working on we're working on uh that as we speak. Um, one thing about conversion, I'll give I can give you to a little bit of the politics if we have time into Judaism, is that conversions, um some conversions aren't accepted everywhere, right? And you have to be comfortable, you have to be comfortable with that if you do plan on converting, regardless of where you convert, whether you convert with us, convert with other people, um you won't be accepted everywhere. Okay, so I just want you to to whoever um the person was who's wishing to do that, regardless, you can go to the most orthodox, even if you want to go all the way to the Ashkenazi, the most orthodox Jewish uh congregation, your conversion is only gonna be good with that group, right? So, this is the stuff we're dealing with inside of Judaism, which is why I stick with my people, the Israelites. That's why I stick with who I stick with. I'm not with none of the politics. Y'all can keep all that over there. You know, I'm I'm with my people over here.

SPEAKER_02

All right, then that's peaceful. But that's okay.

SPEAKER_00

I can't hear you, my brother.

SPEAKER_02

Can you hear me now? Can you hear me now? Chat, let me know if y'all can y'all hear me, chat.

SPEAKER_00

Look, we we must be on fire tonight, man, because they they they're trying to attack your mic right now. I can't hear anything.

SPEAKER_02

Second time this happened. Like, my mic is good, like I can hear myself. Chat, can you hear me? Chat, chat. Can you hear me? Type in. I don't know, man. Hold on.

SPEAKER_00

Again, just to be able to talk. I appreciate all all y'all are tuning in. Um, there you go.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know what's going on to check or hear me. I think it's from your end.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, okay. I hear you. I'm sorry, I hear you now. I hear you.

SPEAKER_02

You good, you good.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_02

With that being said, man, I appreciate you, rabbi, for coming through. Sir, you did your thing, you're very informative. We gotta do a part two, man.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02

We got to it, you know. I know we was we were cross-referencing the tree of life and the in the um the tree of life in the Kabbalah aspect as well, but to learn it in Judaic form, it was pretty dope, man. So praise the most high. I'm gonna look into that. We we we definitely gotta get back on here. And then to our guests, I mean to our listeners and viewers, don't forget to comment, like, share, subscribe. We got super chats. Where can people reach you at, man?

SPEAKER_00

People can reach me on Facebook and Rabbi Yose Being Yose, or Rob R-A-B-H, Yose Been Yosef. Uh on Instagram, same thing, Rob Yose bin Yose. Um, it's spelled it's spelled R-A-B-H, right? And then Yosef is as you look on the screen, and you can connect with me on Instagram. Um, you can chat chat with me on there, and uh, I would love to link with the people and build with the people.

SPEAKER_02

But but we're gonna do that, man. We have to. We gotta get on, man. With that being said, my NYP family, show us love, run up the like button, share the show, support, and we'll we'll continue bringing you that good heat, man. That being said, we out. Peace and love. Stay blessed.

SPEAKER_00

Shalom alaykum.