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Who Are You Sleeping With… Energetically? - Kametre

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Sex can feel like a private choice, but the aftermath is rarely private. Tonight, we sit down with Divine Karma (Sister Cametra) to ask a question most people avoid: who are you sleeping with energetically? If intimacy is a sacred energy exchange, then every “just a hookup” still has a cost, and sometimes the bill shows up as anxiety, confusion, low motivation, or repeating the same toxic patterns.

We break down the difference between lust and real spiritual connection, why trauma can turn chemistry into a trap, and how the subconscious mind learns what we keep feeding it. From residual energy to “spiritual menage” dynamics, we talk about why your partner’s history can still affect your present, and how soul ties can keep you stuck even when you know the relationship is wrong. We also get honest about healing seasons, accountability after breakups, and why being single can be the most powerful reset for conscious dating.

Then we go deeper into practical tools: polarity, discernment, spiritual hygiene, and what energetic protection can look like before and after sex. Divine Karma also opens up about sexual transmutation and tantra, sharing how intention, presence, and emotional safety can turn intimacy into healing and even manifestation for aligned couples.

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Welcome And Community Announcements

SPEAKER_00

Peace world, how you doing? Welcome to the welcome to another episode of the NYP Talk Show. It is Thursday. I am tired. But the show goes on. Don't forget to comment, like, share, and subscribe. We got super chats. We have merch on the website. Tell a friend, tell a friend. We are the coolest podcast out here in this conscious space. Now with the gimmicks, it's all about you know the people. And we don't do not exempt ourselves because you know everybody has a time to grow and learn, to discover themselves and heal from their trauma. So peace to everyone out here that's tuned in, those that are listening. Thank you for rocking out with us. Tonight's special guest is the divine feminine goddess, queen sister that's been rocking with us for about two years. The divine karma, aka sister Kimitri. How are you doing, beloved? Welcome, welcome back.

SPEAKER_03

Well, thank you, Mikey. Always a pleasure, beloved. I'll welcome you.

The Spiritual Cost Of Sex

SPEAKER_00

Yep. Damn it, it's been a minute, man. I'm happy we got you on here. So tonight we'll be talking about who are you sleeping with energetically? You know, it's a deep concept for both, you know, men and women to you know understand the sacred science behind sexual relations, what we do, who we get involved with. You know, some of us out here tend to worry about you know sexual diseases and pregnancies and all action stuff, STIs, but there's something out there known as sexual transmitted demons.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You know, so let's get into it, beloved.

SPEAKER_03

This gonna be a this this gonna be this is gonna be a rough one.

SPEAKER_00

Really?

SPEAKER_03

Not rough why you say that for I won't say rough, but it's just it's just so many people that don't that don't overstand, and I'm not judging because I was there, but don't overstand uh you know the energy of of SEX. It's uh you know a sacred energy exchange, and people don't understand the concept of who you land with plays a major part in a lot in your life.

SPEAKER_00

It does, it'll it will affect you. So what like for financial for foundational understanding, what does it mean for sexual energy to be considered spiritual energy?

SPEAKER_03

Uh, because it's it's an exchange, it literally is. So, you know, uh SCX in my book is a spiritual and sacred energy exchange, and what that means is it's not just about the physical, you know. I I always think of it as the divine masculine uh putting a deposit into the bank, and the divine feminine is the account, and uh this just by a little philosophy, but all money ain't good money, and the same applies for energy when you look at it like that. All you know, all sacred energy exchanges are some of them ain't sacred at all. And you know, once you take that energy into your DNA because it it is transferred into your DNA, man, it affects you on all levels, it does.

SPEAKER_00

Got you, got you. Um, how have ancient traditions described the exchange of energy during sex?

SPEAKER_03

I think the ancients, and I'll just say, you know, I've done a lot of past life digging and things of that nature on myself, but it was different then. You know, we moved into it, it ain't even it's it's everything is physical now. You know, back in the day, and I'll say, you know, maybe you know, two or three generations back from my generation, even you know, when our ancestors were on, you know, plantations and in slavery times, quote unquote, it was different. You know, you treasured that. That was that was a sacred, you know, you treasured that time. It wasn't rushed, it wasn't something to think about, you know. It it was it was respectful and it was honored. And now, yeah, now it's publicized and and uh it's it's it's a little it's a little out of hand, I'll just say that.

SPEAKER_00

So you say it's it's no longer intentional, no, it's no longer intentional, no, no sacred, it's just very loose.

SPEAKER_03

For some people, yeah. For some people, yeah. I like, you know, people like us, obviously, we know the difference. And I think we're making a shift back to, you know, it being more sacred, it being more special, it being more intentional. Um, you know, because the last few years, you know, the the low frequency and MPCs and the concubines have been pretty much setting the tone for what, you know, uh what sacred energy exchange is. And it ain't has not been sacred, but uh it's slowly making a shift because they have they set the tone for quite a little bit, but I think it's you know, we're coming back around to, you know, not just moving around in some wild energy and being intentional um with who you give your energy to and who you receive that energy from.

SPEAKER_00

Gotcha. Why is it that people choosing, you know, not to be like a soapboxing or anything else, but why is it that, you know, us as human beings, because I'm I'm thinking it's part of human nature, is that we tend to like rely more on the carnal, like is it something that we're trying to fill in the void? You know, because sex could be pleasuring to many.

Trauma Voids And Lust Cycles

SPEAKER_03

I think so. I think we're trying to fill a lot of voids. And me and you talked about this before. Um when we go through traumas in our life, we put ourselves to where we get needy and we start wanting different things, but because we're trying to fill that void from childhood trauma, you know, we talked about mommy-daddy issues, whatever it is, but they're most of the time people get in that fleshy, you know, kind of movement and just it real, you know, because they have a void that they're trying to fill. And and, you know, they unintentionally believe, it's not intentional, I don't think, believe that, you know, there's someone, you know, that they can have, you know, be intimate with that's going to fill that void. And then when it's done and that void is not filled, then you're back to love, you're back to square one, you're disappointed, but then the cycle continues because now you're looking for the next, well, you know, maybe the next person can fill this void, and it's just a continuous cycle for a lot of people.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, got you, got you on that. So, what different what differentiates lust from spiritual connection and sex in um in sexual encounters?

SPEAKER_03

Lust is completely uh, you know, driven by the ego and flesh. It's very materialistic, it's very, you know, not to say, you know, you shouldn't be attracted to the person you've been intimate with, but you know, lust is that, you know, in it for an orgasm kind of situation, you know. I I you know, I I want that peak, you want that peak. Man, let's just get together and do this thing. And there's no intention set, there's there's nothing sacred about it, you know. Lust is all about, you know, ego and and materialistic gain, you know, if you will. Two people trying to hit that that quick bliss right quick.

SPEAKER_00

That quick bliss. I they call it lust. You don't think it could also be sexual chemistry as well?

SPEAKER_03

It could be, because I'm not saying if lust is involved, there's always an attraction. You know what I'm saying? There's always going to be chemistry because you know, if you're moving with somebody in lust, there's always gonna be that chemistry because you're not in a lust for something that you're not desiring or don't like. You know what I'm saying? So the chemistry is going to be there. The problem comes in where that's the main focus of the hookup of whoever you're dealing with is the the, you know, the chemistry, the attraction. That's the that's the main thing. When you don't have any, you know, sacred knowledge binded, any, you know, and being equally yoked, so to speak, with the person that you're dealing with, like I said, it's going to be a continuous cycle. And not to say people don't have one-night stands and things of that nature, they happen. But when you overstand that you're just not sleeping with or being intimate with the person that you're with right now, you're taking on all the energy of everybody they slept with, and vice versa. That's when when you start thinking about things like that, you'll be a lot more cautious and a lot more intentional on who you move with.

SPEAKER_00

That's true. That's true, that's true. Because you know, it affects people both physically, spiritually, and scientifically, also, right?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So as far as in regards to exchange and bonding, right? What types of sexual energy, what type of what types of energy are exchanged during sex, emotional, mental, or spiritual? And we want to get you know deep into that.

SPEAKER_03

All of the above is exchanged.

SPEAKER_06

Really?

SPEAKER_03

So you can trauma bond through sex. The person that you're with, right? And when I break this down, it sounds like people really get in their mental and it makes you think about damn, I didn't dead a lot because you know what I'm saying. But again, I want you to think about a spiritual menace. Energy is always exchanged. I'm not just laying down with you. When I'm intimate with you, I'm taking on residual energy from individuals you have been with as well. And then I'm sure it's a time frame. You know, I'm not going to take on 100% of somebody you were with 20 years ago or 10 years ago. But if you're moving with somebody that is, you know, out there doing their thing in the streets, you're not just sleeping with them, right? So you're taking on all the energies of the individuals they have been with. I call them residuals because you're gonna get that residual energy because energy can't be created or destroyed, it's only transferred, and it's gonna be transferred. So the question is, how many spiritual menage toiles have you been in? And then you get couples that one cheated, one person cheated, and the other person decided to cheat. Oh my gosh. And then now you think of that. You cheating, your person cheating, and just think of all the energy and all the residuals of different people that you are now taking on that is being transferred into your DNA. If a person has trauma and you dealing with somebody and being, you know, intimate with somebody that has a lot of trauma, it's going to be transferred into your DNA in some way, shape, form, or fashion. Like it's inevitable. This is how energy energy works.

SPEAKER_00

So then from that point on, um but if both partners are doing doing them as they say it, you know, out there being promiscuous, that opens up like a vortex, energy vortex, like a whole of just you open up that whole, that door, indoors box, all types of things that come in. Yeah, it would it would change the dynamic between the couple, it is each other. It will fracture the the attraction, it will, it will got you. How does sex affect the subconscious mind and emotional imprinting?

SPEAKER_03

Well, you know, your subconscious, you know, emotions are just energy and motion, you know. We always talk about that, but emotions are also your compass to let you know, you know, does it feel good? Does it not feel good? Uh, you know, that that's how you know if you're moving in the right direction and moving in the wrong directions with your emotions, but your subconscious mind, you know, it makes it makes a horrible master, but it makes an absolute amazing slave. So it's going to absorb whatever you give it, right? So if you're with somebody and you telling yourself, you know, this this is about sex or whatever the case may be, that's what your subconscious mind is gonna be like, gotcha. Because that's what you're feeding it. But you know, people think sex is just about the physical. All of your senses are supposed to be involved when you're being intimate with someone, not just the physical, all of your senses are supposed, and most people don't move in that energy. It's literally just about the physical part. So your subconscious mind is going to do whatever that makes a beautiful slave. And if you keep feeding that same, you keep dealing with that same person and you keep dealing with, you know, all the trauma that's attached to them, or they could be a very deceptive person. Because a lot of times we deal with people, and we know they ain't. You know, I'm gonna keep it going on it. We know, but you know, we deal with them because the attraction is good, the sex is good, but you have to remember you keep feeding that to your subconscious mind, it's eventually it's going to convince itself, okay, this is what we like, this is what we want, and it's going to give you more of that because it's called pay attention. If you're paying it, that's what it's going to give you.

Soul Ties And Closing Loops

SPEAKER_00

I like that beautifully beautifully put. So that so that this is a perfect segue to this question. Regardless of that, you know, that you know the the red flags are there, the signs are there, this person is toxic, not good for you, but we have this energetic chemistry when it comes to being intimate with each other sexually, right? What is the concept of soul ties? And is it a is it real or symbolic?

SPEAKER_03

I think soul ties are very, very real. I truly believe that uh sometimes we don't close out cycles in past lives, and we we very well may come into this life um in different bodies. And it uh, you know, we have this soul tie. This is a lot of uh soul ties are a lot of reasons why people stay in situations longer than they should, because they don't overstand it's a soul tie and it's a cycle that's supposed to be closed out. So I do believe soul ties are very real. Um, soul ties can allow you to stay even if the even if the sex ain't good, because there's a there's an energy there from a past life. Soul ties are usually more difficult to break away from than just, you know, I'll say a regular person that you're dealing with. But yeah, I believe they're truly, truly real. And a lot of people, you know, they don't know it's a soul tie. They don't know that this is a cycle, they don't know it's for healing. You're supposed to heal from this. This is something this is a cycle you're supposed to heal from. There's always one person that you deal with, that there's nobody else that could have made you do self-reflection the way that this person has done it. And usually that's a soul tie or the person that has hurt you the most that you've dealt with, because there's nobody else that could have shown you some things about yourself, man, that you needed, nobody else could have shown you the way that they've shown you. But I do believe soul ties are very, very real, and people mistake them for twin flames and soul mates, which is different, you know, karmics from past life. All these things exist, they do, and when you mix that with all this sacred energy exchange, it becomes very confusing, and you stay in, you know, you miss the red flags and you stay in situations longer than you should have.

SPEAKER_00

Oh that's dope.

SPEAKER_03

You be cracking me up.

SPEAKER_00

No, no, no, I'm listening because my connection kind of flaked, but it's like you're saying so much, and I'm like, damn, like I've heard I have heard of soul ties, and sometimes you you know, in layman terms, people would say, Oh, you just pee whipped or she's hypnotized, whatever the case may be. Because you know, you think because that physical thing, but I'm like, nah, I think there is some type of connection there. That person probably put some roots on you, as they say.

SPEAKER_02

And what that may be possible, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

They they got you hooked on them, you know what I'm saying? They probably does, you know, because you know, you know, I don't know if people had experienced this, but you know, there are times some people you have become intimate with, you'd be like, like three to five years past, you'd be like, Yo, why am I having this moment? Like, you like this person's cross my mind, or you know what I'm saying? You run into them, they give you that look, and you be like, Yeah, yeah. Kind of wild, man.

SPEAKER_03

It happens, it happens to all of us.

SPEAKER_00

So, how can one break a soul tie? What's the process? Can you give us a like an example of breaking a uh soul tie?

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, been there, done that a couple times. Um, first realizing that's what it is. You know, once you realize that a person was only in your life for a season, and to show you some things about yourself that so you can heal yourself, you know, that's the breaking moment for it's time to end this cycle. And I'm telling you, a lot of people don't, it's people that's in relationships this very second that this person was a soul tie, something that you were supposed to learn something from and heal from. And they stay in it thinking that it's, you know, this is just how love is supposed to be, but it's not. When you, you know, women, we famous, you know, divine feminists. I'm tired, I'm leaving, I'm this, that, and the third. When you ready to go, you're not gonna tell nobody. You just gonna be done. Like it ain't no conversation to be had. But again, you have to realize this is a lot of self-reflection. You have to realize and look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself, has this individual helped me be the better version, the best version of myself? Have I seen the best version of myself with this person? Because if the answer is no, you just you just figured out the million-dollar, you know, the million-dollar answer to the question. This is a cycle that needs to end. What did I have to learn here? What did I need to learn? How did I need to, you know, learn to love myself more? Because for a lot of divine feminines, that's what we end up in these cycles about, because we need to learn how to love ourselves more and stand on our own if we need to. Happiness is an inside job. I can't make you happy, you can't make me happy. And if you go through a relationship thinking that this other person is supposed to make you happy, you already lost the battle. You already lost. It's this thing out here, like people are afraid to like, like it's a bad thing to be single and be on your own. It's not when when source God, whoever the source is for you, puts you in this position to be on your own, that is the best time for growth. One, because you don't want to take all that baggage into your next relationship, but it is the perfect time for you to realize what really makes you happy, not from someone else. All this is gonna come from within. And I say all the time, we don't attract what we want, we attract who we are. So if you jump from relationship to relationship to relationship because you're broken, you're going to attract a broken person. Once you feel and you're happy within yourself, you're going to attract someone that is already happy before they met you.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's that's powerful right there. Hold on, beloved. We got somebody that says she said, Yes, 15 years. I I dead and ended an abusive relationship. I finally woke up and left.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, hey, MJ. Yeah, I know who that is.

SPEAKER_00

MJ, being single has made me find myself again. That's that's a fact because you know, especially young men, when we go to breakups, you know, based on our environments where principles are instilled in us. We are always taught to go out there and go, you know, interact and sleep as many, as many women as possible, right? To help get over that person, right? Yeah, looking back at hindsight at that, it's it's beneficial on a sense. I'm not agreeing with it fully, right? That you're just physically doing what you're doing just to have a good time, but in reality, it doesn't cover up that wound. You need to kind of process that separation. You just had that breakup you're gone through, that heartbreak, like you're not giving yourself allowing yourself, you know, time to process and heal and learn from your errors. Because um, personally, can you hear me? Um, you know, both men and women, depending on the individual, if they are at that mature level of accepting accepting accountability, they always point fingers after the breakup.

SPEAKER_04

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

Like it's that person's fault, you know, without you know reflecting on them. Because whenever you're pointing fingers at somebody, three years. And back at you, so you gotta do some inflection, some reflection, and you know, introspect to be like, you know what? You gotta look back at that and be like, you know, I allowed this behavior to take place, I tolerated this, I subjected myself to that. You know, I you know had some cognitive cognitive dissonance, like seeing the proof in the pudding, but I convinced myself to see otherwise, and then you know, you get blinded by the physical thing, like you'd be like, yo, but sex with the person is so great. The intimacy is like this person knows your body, we know what each other like, but what's the end game, you know? Don't get me wrong. Now we we enjoy the physical aspect of it. Don't get you like, yo, oh, yeah, you know what I'm saying? You're gonna you're on your way, you know, as they put it, grown to your sneaky link's house, you know what I'm saying? You got the overnight bag.

SPEAKER_03

Yep. I know, I I know, I know.

SPEAKER_00

You'd be like, Yeah, this person puts it down like that, but you know, and then in reality, it's it's it's you know, it's making a bigger ditch, though. You know, we gotta come to a point and you gotta be mature about it and be like, it's not going anywhere.

SPEAKER_03

It's not bad, you know what I'm saying? We I'm not saying this like it's a bad thing.

SPEAKER_00

We human beings, right?

SPEAKER_03

We yeah, yeah. And our flesh, you know, we in this matrix, and our flesh, you know, it is what it is, it got attached to us and we have to deal with it sometimes. And everybody's been there, you know. We all been there. Well, you got somebody that put it down like that. But you know, once it's you know, once y'all finish doing grown folk stuff, you ain't got nothing in common. Y'all really ain't got too much to talk about. You can't have no kind of intellectual conversation with them. That's when you know you had them conversations to yourself.

Cleanliness Diet And Energetic Polarity

SPEAKER_00

Uh depending on the connection. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and what generation is to the two is like you could be you could be, you know, things in your life could be going great, and somehow you get around this person, you you find yourself off your square. Yes, things that you know you were you were ascending a certain point and things start going down. You're like, yo, I don't know. You start questioning these things, like what's going on with this person because you don't know what this person's spiritual practices are like, what they're involved in, as you say, who which other person they are sleeping with. You know what I'm saying? That you know, women I can't speak of them, but it won't some women say they know their pH balance go off whatsoever.

SPEAKER_03

And you hear all kinds of you know, I don't even want to uh that's not no no you no, I'm glad no, I'm glad you said that because people really think like pH balance, diet, clean cleanliness, and all these things has have nothing to do with that uh sacred energy, and it does, and it really, really, really does. Like, if you plant-based vegan like myself, and I literally had a couple guys that that are really good male friends advised, and they don't even know each other, and I've heard this several times. It's like, yeah, what did they say? Like vegan women or women that don't eat meat or have a clean diet, that their vegetables tastes better than a woman that eats meat and eats junk food and eating hostess. And I never heard like a guy say that before. And I was just like, So this does really make a difference. It really does make a difference, but you know, I mean, would you lay down with somebody whose pH balance is off, who has odors, who has no more cloud, not not at all.

SPEAKER_00

Not at all.

SPEAKER_03

Because you know, if you're if you're not clean with the outside of your temple, you already know the energy with inside is gonna match. Hands down, it's it's gonna match.

SPEAKER_00

No, no, it's true. I'm I'm glad you missed it. All right, you know, touching on that is crazy, man. I know this, I know people watching this show probably like, nah, they are wild, but these are conversations that we need to have because I know I know on our platform we like to talk about, you know, historical stuff, Nation of Islam, or Steinstein, all that, but there's other things, you know, there's other communities out there that need to be heard and other interests people have. So I'm glad we brought this to this platform. Is polarity necessary for strong energetic exchange?

SPEAKER_03

Yes, I do, because polarity, especially when it comes to divine feminine energy and divine masculine energy. You if you're imbalanced, I mean, if you're you're you got yourself, you you mastered your divine femme, your divine mask, and you are in balance, but you lay down with somebody that is has way too much divine masculine in them or has way too much divine feminine. It's just like a pH balance. If you lay down with them and have this energy exchange, it's going to throw you off your spiritual game. Like if there's there's there's no if, ands, or buts about it. So when it comes to, you know, polarity, and when I look at polarity, especially when I'm talking about, you know, let's say, you know, sex, man, I want to know is that person, do they have their DM and DF and balance? Do they have a good balance between their work life and play life? You know, having balance, I'm telling you, is so important with who you lay down with. I mean, you know, you know, the Christians were always talking about being equally yoked. If you spiritual on the top of your game, you know, you don't want you ain't trying to go at the bottom of the of the polarity scale. You know, I'm saying, like you don't want to, because it's going to people seem to think that you're going to give that person good energy, but you have to overstand when it comes to energy exchange, it's called an exchange for a reason. So you might give them 25-30 percent of your good energy, but are you willing to take that 70 of them?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, discernment, spiritual discernment. I got you. Gotta be conscious. Um, MJ got something she says. She said, as a person who has been wow, let's say very young. That's TikTok language. Um, for you know, sexually abused. I never really felt true intimacy. I'm sorry that happened to you, sister.

SPEAKER_01

Hey MJ, how you feel, my love?

SPEAKER_00

And I hope that you're healing. I'm sorry about that, but yeah, does that affect people that have experience that went through thramatic experiences? Obviously.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, speaking from someone who was uh, you know, I'm transparent, was R-A-P-E-D at 16. Um sorry about that. By by someone that my family knew, and I didn't even like I don't even think I even told most of my family until I got older. Um, but that trauma, yeah, if you don't heal from it, it is just like that space we talked about, that voided space. Um, especially if you are intimate with people that are not in that healing nature, that what we talked about, polarity, that are not uh balanced in their divine feminine, divine mass, you know, or just, you know, got, you know, they might be an NPC or just a low frequency being. It's gonna affect you if you have some kind of trauma. I I tell anybody, especially divine femmes, because we have a tendency to get SA or APED, you know, and we hold on to it. A lot of times it's people in our family, so it kind of gets pushed up under the rug and it will damage you for life. I'm telling you, it will damage you for life if you don't do that healing and it will make you not want to be sexually active with anyone because when you hold on to that trauma, it will prevent you from having a full orgasm. It, you know, it'll prevent you from the person you might be with may be healing because SEX is not just about the physical, it's also supposed to be healing. And if you can't get any of that, you're just like hands off. Don't, you know, what am I what am I even being intimate for?

SPEAKER_00

I'm sorry about that. I'm sorry about that. You know, peace to you know, all of you who are victims of that and hope you find proper healing. And the sister says she said, I'm glad I'm good. I'm dying. You're talking about this. And what else? Yes, I told my family, and they said I was lying. Unfortunately, a lot of families will do, will do and say that because to them it's a shameful taboo, and yeah, they don't want to believe that. And I think it's mostly like they don't have the emotional intelligence or the capacity to really process something like that because they're in disbelief. Yeah, think about it. Many of our um elders were victims of that too, coming from the world that it came in. Because you had men that were like in their 40s and 50s chasing teenagers.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I don't get that. I don't get I don't get that. And that's just a bunch of weirdo stuff, man.

SPEAKER_05

Um yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And you know, I kind of figured that for those who were victims of those traumatic experiences, I always wonder like, do they find it impossible to connect with somebody? Well, because it could work in both ways, it could make them difficult with connecting with people with somebody else, or they can make them hypersexual.

SPEAKER_03

And I've seen both, yeah. And and I'm man, I'm telling you, trauma and and and sex, I'm telling you, people just don't know how closely related and how they are with each other. Um if you're dealing with somebody that got trauma, I'm I'm I'm telling you, hands down, it's like drinking battery acid, but in a sexual capacity, because people seem to think, you know, that it's not going to affect them. And you have men, and I'm gonna say men, just from my, you know, conflict and my life, that knew or know that, you know, this woman has been through a lot. They might even know she was, you know, abused in some type of way, but they know these things and they know this woman is vulnerable and they take advantage of it, right? And now you've got this chaotic ass energy in this energy exchange, and they don't even realize the damage, the more damage that they've done to this divine feminine, because now you've transferred your chaotic selfishness, which is a low vibration and a low energy, right? You've transferred that into an individual who is already traumatized, who is already confused and lost.

SPEAKER_00

So it's like again, both it's trauma bonding, both are just passing broken cycles to each other, and it just carry on like that. That is crazy. Hold on, somebody in the comment section is who are you sleeping with and waking up to I like that, I like that, yeah. Like now I'm saying, I like how you said that it's true because yo, are you laying down with a deep, you know, with a gargoyle, waking up with a demon? Yeah, like it's it's uh it's like you said, you gotta be equally yoked as the Christians put it, but just using discernment and you know, knowing your partner, connecting with them, building a bond. Because even still, you could build a bond with a person, you don't know the person's inner true or thoughts. You know what I'm saying? You have an idea of what we do because you know, certain things could you know creep in whatsoever. Um, how does sexual union mirror cosmic or universal principles?

SPEAKER_03

Well, uh, I don't know if I explained this to you before on a show, but I'll say it again. You know, as above, so below, uh, first of all, you know, that it's always the energy, and that doesn't exclude a sacred energy exchange as above, so below. But again, I always talk about my pyramid, and I think I explained this to you before with a relationship and anybody you're being intimate with. And I kind of created this for myself as a guide to should I date this person? Is you know, and this is my formula, right? And I look at a pyramid, and at the top of the pyramid is always source, whoever that is, God, Allah, Buddha, whoever source is for you at the top of that pyramid. Then at the bottom, you have yourself and your person with the pyramid. You two each have your own individuality, right? But y'all also and the union is connected to source because it's at the apex. But at the bottom, you two are connected to each other. So the union is always connected to source, right? But you two are connected and keep your individuality at the same time. That's like I said, that's that I call it my little pyramid of love. And for me, that's what I use because that's cosmic energy and you know, learning from the mystery schools back in the day. But that's everything to me because if you can't build, if I can't build with you, if we, you know, like we can't just be exchanging energy in the in this day and age where we at now, we just can't be exchanging it just to be exchanging it. This is not the time for that.

SPEAKER_00

That's a fact.

SPEAKER_03

Topic, I like that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, he's dropping some info on the yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I like that, and I like the sleeping versus waking up because when he said wake up, I thought about spiritually and consciously you can sleep with somebody, but who you waking up to?

SPEAKER_06

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03

Who you who you waking up to? Are y'all on that conscious level? I like that. I like that.

SPEAKER_00

So I have a question, like you know, being that we're speaking about connections, cosmic connections, chemistry amongst the amongst men and women, right? What happened to married couples, for instance, like where they begin to drift apart? What what you know? There's many factors that do come in play, like you know, in today's society, you gotta do with the financial aspect of it, um, you know, maybe unresolved trauma or there's some misquidity, you know, cheating between them. But like what happened, the whole dynamic amongst them shifts. Like they'd be like, this person was so sweet. Like, say, for instance, we say, for instance, we could factor in that there's no adultery whatsoever, but they just a big shift. What happened? They just lost that, they lost that alignment.

SPEAKER_03

I don't think it was lost, it wasn't there from the beginning. People, you know, and it's easy to say, I know I've been married twice, so I'm uh when I speak, I'm telling you, I'm I'm speaking from experience and not speaking nothing bad. I just know better now. But people get into marriages and things like that without knowing each other and not even just what does a marriage look like to you? Like you have to have these conversations, and people get into marriages with people not even knowing what marriage looks like to that person, not fully know, like where are you, what are your spiritual goals? These conversations do not happen anymore. People, you know, tell you the process, the the modern process of getting married. Y'all hook up, sex pretty good, they're a decent person, start spending the night at each other's house six months down the line. I might can do this, move in with each other. That lasts about a year, year and a half, then you know, you know what, we might can get married. Like none of the none of the foundation work was added into none of this. Divine feminines. If you don't do nothing else before you get married, spend time with that man's divine feminine in his family before you do anything. Go see how he treats his mom, how he treats his sisters, how he treats his grandmothers, how he treats his aunt. Because you mess around and get married, and then you start really hanging out with the family, and you and you realize because how he treats them, that's exactly how he's gonna treat you. And we don't we don't do that anymore. It's the hookup, stay the night, toothbrush over there, pair of socks over there, move in in six months. Next year, you want to get married? Yeah, that's cool. Let's do that, and that's it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's true, man. On both, and that's why I say for brothers, too, man. We both gotta do healing, just the man and the woman, you know what I'm saying, must do healing because there are a lot of things we tend to overlook because um a lot of us tend to have a false narrative or depiction, our own perspective of what we think marriage is. Like some people will look at our Tyler Perry movie and be like, that's how it should be. Yeah, my grandparents lasted this long, or this other person, but you don't know what takes place behind closed doors, what kind of work was, you know, you don't know the work that he you know both men and women put together. You don't know what that may have taken place behind closed doors, the fights, the struggling, the trauma both may have inflicted upon one another. We don't factor those in. So my thing is this guy make it work, make it work for you, both of you guys. You both, yeah, as you said, build that foundation, and what you need to hear is understanding and be realistic, set these unrealistic exactly. Yeah, don't set these unrealistic goals and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03

I just talk and we do it, and I'm we sure do it. When with Divine Family, we do it. Oh my gosh, we do it. And I said this before on your show. We always fall in love with the person we want them to be or who we think they can be, instead of you not to say you don't want your person to grow. But if you're not in love with the person where they at right now, this ain't gonna work because you are forever going to be trying to push them to be that other person. And what if they ain't gonna never get there? If you can't love them where they at right now, you gotta start there before you start falling in love with who oh man, he could be a great person. If he this, this, this, this, this, this, and this, we can make it. Yeah, but are you in love with where he where he is right now in life? Because if you you you finna put all these expectations on him, and do he know that you put these expectations on him? Because if he don't, you already set yourself up for failure.

SPEAKER_00

I'm glad we're having this conversation. And what I like about this, I love how we both are going back and forth. It's not no man versus woman because I can't stand those conversations, those gender gender biases. You know, believe it or not, both sides learn from both sexes. A woman learned from a father or the men involved in our life, and the man may learn from his mother, and a woman involved in his life, and yeah, a lot of that comes with um misinformation and like crazy echo chambers, like nobody's correcting one another, you know. So nobody's being realistic. They they they they bringing in either their joy or their misery to it, yeah, and not understand that what works you may not work for me.

SPEAKER_03

We can't we can't have relationships like our grandparents and all of that. Yeah, I agree. These are different times, these are different times, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You know, and I I say both men and women, like if you if you're in the union, encourage your partner to do great, you know what I'm saying? I want to, you know, couples therapy sound cliche, but go go to couples therapy and do individual therapy. I'm saying, yep, it comes back back to that, and as far as energy control and discipline, what is a sexual transmutation and how does it work?

SPEAKER_03

Uh transmutation with sex is you know, sexual alchemy, you know, that that's what it is. There's this myth out there that you know spiritual folks like sex is boring. And you know, people don't know things like about tantric sex and energy points and and things of that nature. You can get with the right person that's that's you know on the level that you are spiritually, and the two of you can have SEX and literally change each other's lives. Y'all can heal each other. Uh, I I've studied a lot about uh when you're with somebody intimately and you're uh intimate and y'all hit that peak together, it's a great time to manifest and say what y'all want to manifest out loud. People don't overstand the energy of what you can accomplish and that spiritual alchemy that you can really use for SEX and have a good time and enjoy it all at the same time. You can use that thing to the max, and it can actually absolutely change you and your person's life if you know how to transmute that energy for healing, for manifesting things and things of that nature. But these are things we have to study. Like most people don't eat our stake. Do you even know what tantra is? What tantra sex is? Do you even understand what that energy is? Most couples not.

SPEAKER_00

What is that? Tell me, what is this tantra sex, man?

SPEAKER_03

So, tantra, and it doesn't just relate to sex, but tantra is using all of your senses, not, and it's not just about the orgasm. There are certain ways you can lay with your partner, there's certain words you can say to your partner. There's certain um uh sometimes it's almost like sexual yoga, things you can do with your partner because it will try you talking about transmuting energy. Y'all can exchange energy and take it to another. New level. And a lot of people don't even know. Damn it. I look got two books.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, sure.

SPEAKER_03

On country. Because I love the energy, the idea. Yes. Yes. And the idea that we can heal each other. And let's just say we're trying to manifest a business together with my partner. If you learn how to use culture and the energy of sex and not just your physical parts, but all of your senses, y'all can have sex and set this intention. And when y'all peak, not the not instantly. When you feel yourself about to peak, pull back. Get to it again, pull back again. The most the the more you hold back when you do peak, both of y'all set that intention. You can literally manifest something at the peak with your person.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, I heard. Yeah, I heard of that. Yeah.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

You can do a lot with that. You can do a lot with energy with sex. People have no I no idea. No idea. They think spiritual folks and sex, I don't know what they think. It's just it's crazy. The myths that they, you know, got out there. They don't, you know, bring in crystals and different incense can make the energy in the room different. It's all kinds of stuff you can do, like it just to take things to the next level. And most people they they don't. They get in it, you know, do what they do, and then they're done.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, they probably get scared. They're like, Yo, I don't know, what's gonna happen? She probably tie me up like a pentagram and stuff like that, and turn you know.

SPEAKER_03

But that's the thing, like that's something that you know, two people can study together. I know my next divine, you know, counterpart or whatever. There's something I want to study with them, it is tantra, so we both have an understanding. Man, to take things to the next level. Anybody can have sex and have an orgasm.

SPEAKER_00

That's easy. That's the easy part, right?

SPEAKER_03

That's the easy part.

SPEAKER_00

It's wanting to, like you said, a bornless ritual to create something out of the universe, which is both of us reaching that point that got you.

SPEAKER_03

Powerful, absolutely powerful.

Protecting Energy While Dating

SPEAKER_00

How can one protect their energy while still be open? While still being open, yeah, you got me laughing.

SPEAKER_03

I know, right? How can they protect their energy while still being open to what dating?

SPEAKER_00

Um, yeah, they say, for instance, dating on before they engage in any sexual encounter. How can one cover themselves from picking up these energies from that person? Don't say they say that he or she got to urge, like, you know what, I gotta get it, I get it, let's get it, let's get it popping. Let's do this, but I gotta protect myself.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I'm gonna say this because you know we're in some grown conversations right now. Don't settle. People don't know how to control and deal with their hormones when they start raging. And uh another myth that's out there, like it's something wrong to sexually please yourself. I'm trying to know we're gonna be on YouTube, so I'm trying to keep it clean. Like, there's something wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with that. The same techniques I said about manifesting, you can do that with yourself, but people have no discipline, they hormones get to rage and they don't know what to do with them.

SPEAKER_00

You might go blind. My mom said you're younger. My mom said I remember when I was younger. You're gonna go blind if you keep doing that.

SPEAKER_04

You're not gonna go.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my, I was watching old episodes of one of them comedies the other day, and I heard them say that you're gonna go blind if you keep doing that.

SPEAKER_03

No, but you can't, you can't settle. This is sacred, you know. You you you just can't. And if you're feeling like your hormones is, you know, that off the chain, I will say this. If you can't control them and you lay with somebody that you know might have some uh residue from some other perp, perp, some other people that you know you just took in, you know, you do what you need to do, women afterwards. I don't know, do a sacred, you know, go do an energy healing or clear your energy or some Reiki or or something, but to protect yourself.

SPEAKER_00

A Yoni clean.

SPEAKER_03

Yep, a Yoni. I love, I don't know why women, it's so many women that don't do get a Yoni sting or even know what it, you know, what it is. Like, especially if you know you've been with somebody or somebody's that you know dag on well. You just think of the people they've been with before you and that you didn't took on that. Some of y'all need to run and get a yoni sting. It needs to be scheduled tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00

All right, you see, you see how they say for women they have yoni cleansers, right? How about for the brothers?

SPEAKER_03

They got they got yoni for men too. Mm-hmm. Sure do.

SPEAKER_00

Where does it go?

SPEAKER_03

You sit just like the woman sit, and your part is going to be, it's nothing, it's just like sitting on the toilet. That's exactly what it's like. It's just like sitting on the toilet, and there's herbs and everything that and they have them for men. You sit there, you can do 15 minutes, do 30 minutes. I know because I used to get mine. There's men that came in all the time with a wife, with their wives, and will come get one. It's amazing. You can clear out your energy and and some other things. And like I said, for those that you know you've been moving with some folks that you really know you probably shouldn't have been moving with, go ahead and make that appointment.

SPEAKER_00

As that brother Tyrone, as that brother uh Tyrone said, who are you who are you sleeping and waking up with? Like, brothers, sisters, we could do better, man. Watch who you're laying down with because some people out here have them spiritual heebie jeebies. You worry about the physical aspects, but nah, they they're gonna bring nothing but chaos into your life, and sometimes it can end in fatal attraction.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, because somebody's off upstairs. That's why I said people usually trust me, I I I've been there. Stay with the does the man's DNA stay with the woman for life? No, I won't say for life. I won't, I won't. Between time and uh her being with other partners, um, will lessen that um potency, if you will, for lack of better words, uh, of his DNA. But um it it it it does stay there for, you know, it does stay there for a while. And you know, lo and behold, people wonder why we having these chaotic children when it comes to energy, excuse me. If two chaotic people get together in deception and lies, both of y'all married, ain't supposed to be there in the first place, and you mess around and get pregnant, you just it's energy people. It's energy is going to you going to have, and I ain't saying chaotic like your child is bad, but you have to understand they're gonna have that energy because of that's how it was created. If you create a child and deception and lies and craziness, it's gonna take some work when you have this child. This is all energy, it's all DNA, it is it's all the same thing.

SPEAKER_00

All right, I'm gonna speak from this perspective, right? What if people be like, oh, this is a this is a setup in this matrix? Because you know, I know we were born with free will, and and as we put it, the God does not want us to do these things, right? But yet it's on earth, like this is this is here. Don't think some people will find that a bit unfair, or is that a test of faith or something like that?

SPEAKER_03

I don't think it's unfair, and I think like a volcano meeting a tornado, yes. Oh, I don't think it's unfair, and this is a free will planet. With you know, this, you have to include, you know, soul contracts are real, you have a reason why you're supposed to be here, you have lessons on this journey that you're supposed to, you know, learn. So you have to factor in all of that, and this is a free will planet. I'm not, I don't sex ain't bad. It's just you're not meant to have it with any and everybody. It's supposed to be something very sacred. And we haven't been in the energy of having sacred nothing when it comes to sex for years, but that's intentional from society, from you know, from traditions, from school, from you know, social media, all of these things. So, yes, have sex, it's an amazing thing, but be mindful of who you're giving your energy to in Divine Feminine, who you allowing to make this deposit into your account. Because again, all money ain't good money, just like all S-E-M-E-N ain't good because that energy it is gonna be what it is.

SPEAKER_00

I'm seeing a brother, a brother was commenting on here because I think we won't be want to be added to this conversation. We uh probably gotta get you and Tyrone back on here. Yeah, it'll be a beautiful one. Tyrone, you know what you want to do, brother. Hit us on hit us on the on the messenger for sure.

SPEAKER_04

For sure.

SPEAKER_00

No, for real. I'm glad I'm glad we had you on here to talk about this. Um, what is it? What is it again? I was about to ask another question, but I think don't men carry some residue on them too.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This ain't just for women, very much so. You lay down with a woman, you are this the energy exchange is is to each other. So if you laying down with, you know, you laying down with a ratchet, just overstand. You're gonna take on her residuals as you know, as well. So if you know she's moving out here in these streets like that, and what cracks me up is when people sleep with each other, friends or family, and they don't understand how energy works, and you moving in that low vibrational energy, it don't matter if you are male or female, DF or DM, you're going to absorb that energy. It ain't no way around it. So if you move in chaotic, if you sleeping with somebody that you know you ain't supposed to be messing with because that's your homeboy wife, it's energy, it's energy, it has to come in place, shape, form, fashion, it has to. That's why begging a homeboy's wife is wild, and then they but then they act like they don't understand when when that energy comes full circle and just get crazy and chaotic, and you acting like you don't understand why you put that energy into play yourself, you put that energy into play. What you think? It ain't it's just gonna like disappear into the universe. No, that got to come full circle, bro.

SPEAKER_00

Why you know what it's not worth it, man? People be having those, listen, human beings be having those moments of weakness and urges, not worth it. We do, not worth it, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03

And you're healed from it. If you know, you know, I wasn't no saint when I was younger neither.

SPEAKER_00

I ain't listening.

SPEAKER_03

None of us work, but learning how to heal yourself and moving from it and and being okay with being by yourself.

SPEAKER_00

People there were times I was doing it when I was younger. I'm not gonna lie, I used to feel like, what am I doing? Like, I suppose the regret climax after you're like, what the hell I'm doing? Like you know, like I shouldn't even be messing with you, like you know, but you know, this is like this is 20-year-old me, 19 year old. I'm like, you're like, you know what? Yeah, you could come over, you can spend the night.

SPEAKER_03

We hey, we all that did it, Mikey. We all did there, we done threw too many back. I didn't smoke too many blunts, uh, you know, and that and you wake up and just roll over, like, God damn.

SPEAKER_00

Like, she got a man, like I'm like, not my problem. But then it comes back, like, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03

It'll come back, like and people understand, like they don't understand how the universe works to where you creeping with somebody that got somebody, and you know it is different if they told you they single, but you know they got somebody, and when this blow up, that something happened, and y'all end up into it in a whole situation. What did you think was gonna happen?

SPEAKER_00

I know it gets out of hand. Listen, I've been in situations like that before when I had um this is you know, me speaking in retrospect when I and I was 21, 22. You know, some chicks I was rocking with had a boyfriend, whatsoever. Duo he gets here, I tell her to call you. Don't call my phone no more, bro. But anyway, it could have led to some you know craziness because I was that reckless with it. You know, I didn't, you know, I'm like, why you coming at me for it?

SPEAKER_03

It had it it it it it happens, it really you ain't the only one. I I've had to change my numbers. It happens, bro. It just it dude, we get to partying, and you know, folks look different after you didn't have four shots of tequila, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Um it ain't that bad.

SPEAKER_03

Like, all right, it ain't that bad, it's just one we all been there, we all been there.

SPEAKER_00

Um like it's gonna hurt. I'm like, how wake up in the morning and you roll over. I'm not there, it's gonna hurt. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Next thing you know, yeah, yeah, dog, you broke my heart.

SPEAKER_03

I'm like, Yes, yes, and you know, us as divine feminists. That's how you know with them trauma bonds, you know. I you think that one night stand is supposed to be something, and then you you got women out here now, these feminists and don't don't get it twisted, you know. Yeah, but they out here moving reckless. They, you know, I'm gonna move how the men move. This is how they do us. I'm gonna be the same way. You a divine feminine for a reason, love. You can't take do it, do what you want to. That that's all I can say.

SPEAKER_00

Nah, I'm not gonna lie. What women women are tough. Women are tough, man. Like when it comes to the city. They are nowadays, say you know guys can play, but women have missed the game.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah, your body count get high real quick. Your body count can get high real freaking quick.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's sad right. Everybody has a piece of me, so my uh not worth it, man.

SPEAKER_03

How many spiritual menage toirs have you had is what I'm asking the collective in the in the chat tonight. How many menage spiritual men have you had?

SPEAKER_00

They want to make that, trust me. That's it.

SPEAKER_04

And I'm glad me and you didn't talk before off the air, so I'm just thinking about some back to some of the conversations we didn't have. Yeah, I couldn't even think of that energy.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_04

Like, mm-mm.

SPEAKER_00

You know what I'm saying? I'm a I'm a renewed man, man. Man of man of God. So you know when you know better, you know better. Back at those things in hindsight. You do better, yeah. Exactly.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, you do better.

Closing Thanks And Where To Follow

SPEAKER_00

With that being said, Cametra. Yeah, no, go ahead, love. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_03

No, I was just saying, you know better, you do better. And with that being said, you know, just you know, move to better space. Don't be be on your own if you need to. If you ain't finding no quality, just you know, continue to work on yourself. Ain't nothing wrong with being on your own. You know, people think you single. You've been single for 18 months, going on two years, bro. Because I ain't trying to sell, and I'm watching my energy, so yeah, I it is what it is.

SPEAKER_00

Energy at all times, at all costs, man.

SPEAKER_02

At all costs, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You know, I I want to appreciate the chat that came out and supported us. Appreciate you very much for coming on there, Tyrone MJ. You know, thank you for that. People that were viewing that they didn't interact. Don't forget to like, comment, share, subscribe. Super chat, share this video. Tyrone, we're waiting on what it is, brother. Yeah, go on here, send that email. We'll get you back on with the system.

SPEAKER_02

MJ, I'll hit you later.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we'll delve more into this. Yeah, definitely. MJ2 could jump on here if she wants to. You know what I'm saying? We all get it on. Yeah, we do this as a healing session, and we learn. You know, this is a no judgment zone. I'm not here to judge anybody because you know I'm saying those who judge and ridicule at the end of the day, they're pointing fingers back at themselves. Nobody's holding them in down, so save it. I'm not with that stuff. So you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04

I agree.

SPEAKER_00

We're throwing stones from a glass house from a second floor window. Okay, you know what I'm saying? Stop it.

SPEAKER_04

Not the second floor window.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, second floor window before I should I blow your house down. Um I appreciate you coming out real much.

SPEAKER_02

Thank you, Mikey.

SPEAKER_00

That means a lot to us.

SPEAKER_02

Thank you so much. Thank you for everybody in the chat. You know, I'll probably see you tomorrow on my on my YouTube.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, oh, yeah, definitely, definitely go out there, support this got a book out there, too.

SPEAKER_03

Yep, I know you want to strangle him, but dot dot dot. It is a for women that have been in a you know long-term relationship and trying to find themselves afterwards. That's what it's for. It's not a man bash and book. We don't do that. And uh check me out. I do tarot and oracle message on divine karmas, oracle messages on YouTube, and check your girl out there as well.

SPEAKER_00

Good, we gotta bring it on the show as well. That being said, my people, peace.

SPEAKER_04

Peace. Thanks, Mikey.

SPEAKER_00

Anytime, sister Will, you're welcome.