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The Silent Work by Knowledge King: Hidden Power Explained

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Your habits are not always “you.” Sometimes they’re old programming running quietly in the background, shaping who you date, how you react, and what you believe you deserve. We sit down with Knowledge King, author of The Silent Work and a psychology-trained future clinical mental health counselor, to talk about what it really takes to turn inward and face what’s stored in the subconscious mind. 

We dig into ego as identity and protection, how trauma and other people’s projections can become part of who we think we are, and why most people avoid self-reflection once the truth gets uncomfortable. Knowledge King breaks down transmutation before transformation: observing impulses and patterns without judgment, then converting that energy into something higher you can actually live. We also connect Carl Jung, alchemy, and esoteric symbolism to modern psychology in plain language that lands. 

Meditation comes up as a practical tool, especially for people who think they “can’t quiet their mind.” If thoughts rise when you sit still, that may be your inner material finally surfacing, not a sign you’re failing. We close by exploring superconscious and magnetic concepts for goal setting without limiting yourself by over-controlling the details, plus a real talk moment on psychedelics as a shortcut that can shear the ego and reveal self. 

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Welcome And Guest Introduction

SPEAKER_00

I was about to ask you if you've seen the show before. I mean, obviously you have, right? So uh so now let's build let's build peace to the God. Knowledge sincere king. That's your name, right? Yeah, yeah. All right. I know you asked the shit. We were just building on that. Um, peace to the God. Thank you for coming out this evening. I really appreciate you. We actually met in the physical, yo. That was that was peace, man. True indeed. Yeah, you came out here to ATL, God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll be back there real soon, real soon, real soon. Now, um, I met the brother at ATL. Um, you know, I I bought his book, The Silent Work, right? That's the name of it. Now, I'm I'm gonna keep it a buck. I ain't read it yet. You know, I'm always you know, used to running around all types of stuff. So now um um now the reason why I didn't really tap into it because it looks like a book that you have to really focus on, right? In my mind, it's like okay, the silent work. So if this is a book that's gonna cause you to be more silent, yeah, right. So so uh so that's that in my mind, this is a book that needs complete and total focus. So before we get into the book, let's break down your history a little bit. Uh theory B5Y, great book. We got some people already read it. That's peace. So now let's let's break down your history a little bit. Uh first off, uh what's your physical degree? So I'm uh understanding the wisdom 32. Now, this is this is to when I when I when I when I see brothers and sisters younger than me with books out, I love it. Like it's it's crazy to me. Like, it's like, yo, this is this is I I like to have you on more just to keep, you know what I mean? Just to keep you give me some light. So now the brother is uh uh 32 years old, right? Phenomenal. Got his own book out right now. This book is gonna stay with you forever. Is this your first book?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so um last year I had uh published a PDF, um, a book called From Black Thumb to Green Thumb. So it's basically like a simplistic guide for people who you know struggle with growing plants. So uh basically after you read this book, you know, you'll go from a black thumb to a green thumb. You'll be able to sustain your own garden and grow your own plants. So I released a PDF of that, um, but I didn't publish it, physically publish it, but it was published PDF.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, I want to get that one too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got that. That one right there sounds very interesting. Okay, so how did you come into the knowledge of yourself? First of all, where are you from?

SPEAKER_01

You heard me? You you're uh it's going out a little bit. You said it sounds very interesting. What was the last thing you said?

SPEAKER_00

I said, uh, so what how did you where where are you from? What's your upbringing like? How did you, you know what I mean? Like what neighborhood you from?

Indiana Roots And Getting Knowledge

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So um I was I was born and raised in Indiana, um, Fort Wayne, Indiana. And I got knowledge at 16 by a brother named Malot Foundation. Um, that's how I was introduced to the 5% nation. Um I um got with it, wasn't a lot of guys and herbs in Indiana. Well, in Fort Wayne, Indiana, where I was at. So I started traveling. Um, I did go to Indianapolis. There was some guys out there. Then I went to DMeka, uh, also known as Detroit, with Dr. Bahu and you know the guys out there, um, C Medina. And Dr. Bahu had actually introduced me to the brother. You had him on your um on your show a couple months back, uh, Be Knowledge. And Be Knowledge, yeah, Be K Knowledge of he um he introduced me to Born and Relaster. So that's how I kind of got up top, and you know, the rest is just history from there.

SPEAKER_00

All right. So B Knowledge got you. How'd you meet B Knowledge? Being that he's from New Jerusalem on now, Justice.

SPEAKER_01

So uh Dr. Bahu, um, because when I when I got knowledge, it was it wasn't a lot of a lot of us that was that was young getting the knowledge. So he was trying to keep us all connected. So he introduced me to Minister Freedom, who was also from then he introduced me to C Self, who was from uh Grand Rapids and uh Be Knowledge, you know. Now, Minister Freedom and C Self, we was kind of close because I'm in Indiana, they in Michigan, so it was about two, three hour drive. But be knowledge was all the way in and now just but back when we was first getting knowledge, it was really just us four. You know what I'm saying, amongst each other. And um me and Be Knowledge ended up getting close. And you know, the guy was a lot of things that I didn't have, a lot of history I didn't have. Um, a lot of the teachers I didn't have, and the guy was just giving them to me. And uh he was like, you know, you gotta you gotta meet born everlasting, whoop de whoop de whoop. So I made a trip up there, you know, and you know, the rest, like I said, the rest was history.

SPEAKER_00

Yo, man, it's unfortunate, man. Like, just like I said, I really rock with the younger people, people younger than me, I really rock with the younger people, yo. When I see the younger people, I mean, even though y'all grown men and all that, you know what I mean. I look at y'all like my younger brothers, you know what I'm saying? And so, like, it's just unfortunate. Me and B Knowledge, we had a um, it was it was like a disagreement. It was really a misunderstanding, really. It was really a misunderstanding, and and and and then now, you know, it is what it is, you know what I mean? It's just unfortunate though. You know, um, I wish that really didn't happen, you know what I'm saying? Because it it was it was a misunderstanding and it was unnecessary, and it was just a breakdown of communication, and that's pretty much what it was. But you know, to move right along, so you got the knowledge, you know. I'm saying you got the knowledge, okay. Indiana, you moved around, born everlasting. I I always hear that name born everlasting. Born everlasting. He's from now just right.

SPEAKER_01

That's the way he's from Medina, guy. He's living down just he's from he's from Medina. Oh, but he's from he's from Brooklyn. Yeah, he's living now just now.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, okay, that's peace. That's peace. Okay, so you got the knowledge at 16. Okay. Now, what did you do in your travels with the knowledge? You were just you know, just building, you know, quoting degrees, getting your knowledge, wisdom, and understanding. What what matter of fact, what sparked you to even pick up lessons?

Psychology Path And College Drive

SPEAKER_01

Uh oh, that's a great question, God. Um, so at 15, 16, you know, well, I'm gonna I'm gonna just start like this. My um my great-grandfather, he was a bishop um on my mom's side. So I grew up in a church. Um and I didn't have nothing to like my great-grandfather was an honorable man, he was a stand-up man. Um, even though I didn't necessarily I began to question the religion that I was raised in. So I actually started studying um more science. Um, it was a book that was given to me by a brother uh called The Exhuming of a Nation. So I was reading that book. Yeah, I was reading that book, and I was like, man, I want to be a Moore, blah, blah, blah, because you know, I was resonating with the teachings, but I could never find no more. I had actually they somebody told me they was having a meeting. They um they didn't show up. So one night I was at my dad's house, my uncle, his brother, got drunk, and he was yelling, I'm God, I'm God, I'm God. And everybody in the room, like, man, shut up. And uh, you know, they just waving them off. And so I I had went to him because you know, in that book, it talked about how many and the divine kindness won. So I was already thinking like that. So I when he sobered up, I went to him and I was like, Um, hey man, you know where you get that from. And he introduced me. He was like, I can't teach you the five percent because he picked it up and put it down. But he was like, I can introduce you to somebody who can. And that's when he introduced me to a law foundation. You see what I'm saying? So that was that was the start of me getting knowledge. Now, what I what I did wouldn't got, I'm um, I mean, I went to I went to college, so um I got an undergrad in psychology, and I'm working on my master's and um clinical mental health counseling. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_00

So I oh wait, hold on. That was supposed to be a clap, man. Yeah, I gotta bear with me on the sound effect. Oh, yeah. So that was supposed to be a clap. He's going for his master's degree.

SPEAKER_01

And did I have it uh next year? So I'll be I'll be a counselor next year. So um, so yeah, guys, I I because you know the the guy sold me a law circular skill trader education. And honestly, getting knowledge yourself, always tell people get knowledge yourself is what made me go to college because when I was in middle school and high school, I had the opportunity to go to college for free. Um, the first time I think I was in the eighth grade, Michael Jordan mom, they had like this scholarship foundation. And she was going to uh different uh middle schools and telling kids, you know, take this paper home and all you gotta do is sign it. Your parents gotta sign it and you can go to school for free. And you know, me being me at that time, I'm like, man, I ain't going to college. Woody whoop, you know, you know, this I'm I'm in other things, right? I'm I'm getting in trouble, I'm I'm doing other things. And then we had another scholarship, I forget what it was called, but it was another situation. You just had to sign up and you get four years free in college. I didn't do that. It wasn't until I got knowledge itself that I embraced being intelligent, being an intelligent black man that I decided to go to college. So it was it was me gaining the knowledge of myself to even have confidence in myself to embrace being intelligent that made me want to, you know, go to college and pursue my degrees.

College Leadership And Bias Up Close

SPEAKER_00

That's Pete. That's Pete. I like I like that you put that. So now you went to college. What was your experience like in college? Basically coming from it sounds to me like you didn't really know what you wanted to do, maybe. You were kind of running the streets a little bit.

Using Mathematics To Move Smart

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, um, so so this is so this is this is part of my story. Um, I had a teacher, um, her name was Miss Carswell, and we used to have a lot of conversations. She was became like my mentor. And you know, at this time, I had just become a five percenter. And you know, when you young with the knowledge, you're kind of loud and wild and you want to debate everybody. So I was like that in school because you know, we supposed to teach and we supposed to do this, but you're young and you immature with it. You know what I'm saying? So I had a fire up under me that was uncontrolled. And, you know, I used to talk to her a lot, and she was she went to school for psychology. So she will always ask us these questions and and you know, try to get us to have certain, you know, insight. And I didn't realize it, but at the time, um, I guess I had great insight. So one day she wrote on this paper on the little sticky note, she said, I don't never tell nobody what to go to school for. Um, and she wrote down psychology and philosophy. She said, But you need to go to school for this. She said, I don't tell nobody what to go to school for. I don't I don't do that because that's for you to figure out. She said, but you need to go to school for psychology and philosophy. So my senior year, um, I had taken a college course, uh, psych one-on-one college course. So that had kind of allowed me to see that that was what I wanted to do. So um when I went to school, when I went to college, I went to a uh uh uh I just it was a two-year college, uh community college. And I ended up being put in a leadership position um to where I was the voice uh for the college. And the it was a great experience because it was like, you know, I was in a lot of rooms with politicians. Um, I met Obama, shook Obama's hand, met Obama, got interviewed on the news. Um, but also it was it taught me a lot because um they wasn't used to seeing a black man with tattoos and a certain type of demeanor be in this in this type of predicament. So a lot of them were actually trying to get me out of my position. You know what I'm saying? They were trying to get me out of uh they was trying to stop me from being the president of the organization. They would it was a lot going on, so it was a it was a two-edged sword, but um, once again, knowledge of self helped me navigate, you know, those that world, you know what I'm saying, because I was able to use mathematics to get through, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Can you give it give me an example of using mathematics to get through that?

SPEAKER_01

So, I mean, God, you know, we say that you know, we are wise, so you know, you gotta the the knowledge and the wisdom has to be applied. Um there were there were situations, God, where, and this was a long time ago, so I have to really think about a specific situation. But there were okay, there were times, God, where um, so my second year, I I was working for a different lady. They didn't want me, I was the first year I was working for this lady named Diana from England. She was a black lady from England, and we had a a great relationship. And she, you know, she was helping me with everything. We was, you know, I'm trying to keep it short. But the next year they hired a new lady and her name was uh Tracy. And I mean the lady was belligerent, guy. Like she was she was banging on tables, yelling, doing all this, but it was it was towards me. And when I first, you know, when I first uh was dealing with her, I didn't understand. I'm like, yo, what is what is this lady problem? But come to find out, there were other people who were feeding her things about me. So she had a preconceived notion about me before she even met me. So I started making notes, like I'm telling people like, yo, and everybody like, oh no, you just don't like it because you're not getting your way. So, you know, God, we taught, you know, the best way to manage something is to leave it alone. So I had ended up being able to get a new office in a in a different building. So I didn't see her at all. I was still doing my job because at that point I was a mentor for the students that was on uh academic probation. So, you know, they would come to me and I would help them develop a plan to get off of academic probation. Um, so once I got out of that situation, I removed myself, everybody else started to see who she was. So then people started coming back to me, like, oh man, I see what you're talking about. I see this. So I had to allow people to get, you know, to do the knowledge for themselves and see it for themselves to be able to gain an understanding. It didn't make sense for me to keep telling people while, you know, they're gonna believe what they want to believe and take things on face value. So, you know, that was that was one way that I I use mathematics to get proof.

Telling Family You Are God

SPEAKER_00

Makes sense. Now, when you now I'm gonna backtrack a little bit. When you first got knowledge, you know, I think I spoke about this on Facebook or something like that. I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was talking to you on Facebook about this. When you when when I first got knowledge itself, and you know, I had you know, I said I was God, right? I had to explain that to my parents. Yeah, because they didn't understand where I was coming from, you know what I mean? Because they like church people and all that. So I told my mom I'm God. I told my father I'm God. They were like, yeah, whatever, this is just a phase. Now, when you when you told your parents that you were God, what what were their response to responses? And what was your family's response as well?

SPEAKER_01

So my mom and my dad was uh my mom and my dad are complete opposite. So I'm gonna tell you. So my mom, when she heard it, I told you uh she basically um one day I left, she went in my room, she grabbed my book of life because she was trying to see like what is he into? You know what I'm saying? And some of the the literature I had was talking about how the black man is God and the white man is the devil. And she just locked my stuff in her room and she wouldn't let me get it. And she like that's not no way to look at life, blah, blah, blah. Woody woody whoop, she wouldn't, you know what I mean? So she was trying to keep me away from it, you know, because once again, uh my my my great-grandfather was a bishop, so she's feeling like she didn't feel that as a parent because I'm no longer Christian, so she was just trying to keep me away from it. You get what I'm saying? Um, my dad, I don't know if you know anything about Midwest games, the organization is like Vice War, Stone.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know if so they got Islamic literature. I don't know if you know that. So my dad comes from that background. So when he seen me getting into the five percent, he had that mentality of like, oh, that's that's some serious. Can I cuss on here? Yeah, that's some that's some serious shit. You know what I mean? And but he had he also he I don't I don't like he had an attitude about it, guys. So like I would go over his house and he would get mad because I told him I didn't eat pork. So every time, like at my dad's house, we had to ask before we because my dad got five kids. So he like, y'all don't go in that kitchen unless y'all ask me first. So every time I um I would ask for some food, he'd be like, Go get some sausage, go get this, go get that. He wouldn't let me eat nothing besides that. You know what I'm saying? Like he thought it was funny because he was like, yo, you 16 years old, and you can't even sustain yourself. So how you gonna tell me you don't eat pork, you know what I'm saying? But you can't, you don't got a job or nothing to sustain yourself and feed yourself. So it was like it was one of them things, but um they didn't really, it really wasn't no nothing crazy when I told them I was God. It was just my dad looked at it like he kind of knew what it was because he comes from that background, and my mom was just kind of like that. Ain't no way to live, you know. Um, and my family, they never said nothing directly to me. Like, you know what I mean? And like they may have said, like, I respect that you live righteous, but they never said nothing because a lot of them didn't know what the five percent nation was.

SPEAKER_00

Ah so me per me being from New York, I say that my aunt know, everybody know now is I'm Malcolm X. Now I was I was Malcolm. I'm Malcolm X, he don't eat pork, you know. He don't eat it. It was like a thing for some time now, you know. But but well, I mean, from some time for back in them days. Now it's just like, yeah, that's wrong, you know. Everybody knows it's not it's not a problem, it's not even nothing to think about.

SPEAKER_01

Right, right.

SPEAKER_00

They they just hand me the plate when we we had a family function, hand me the plate. I already know it's no pork in there, nothing like that. So you know what I mean? But it it grew on them a little bit or whatever, like that. You know what I mean? Now, now, um, being that you can't.

Moving To Atlanta And Finding Community

Why He Wrote The Silent Work

Ego Trauma And Pattern Breaking

Why The Deepest Work Is Silent

SPEAKER_01

up um in the midwest right yeah okay you came up in the midwest what were the gods like in the midwest in your generation um so i'ma i'ma i'ma speak on d mecca because that was that was like my second home god i spent a lot of time out there with them brothers um the mecha god was serious god you know i mean like they was they was serious god and and and and you know you couldn't go around them god and not and not you know know anything because they gonna question you know from your name down to what lessons you with down to how you got knowledge how you see this and they gonna see if you really got the understanding um but they also gonna they also gonna give you the understanding but the gods from from d mecca um was serious real serious now the the brother who gave it to me um he was really the only five percent of God like they the brother like he he stuck with it it's it's the history behind him I don't want to go too far deep into that but he was he was he was he was peace god he was just like you know get your lessons you know I mean he was just giving me lessons he wasn't really he wasn't really uh he was just a peace brother he was just happy to be teaching somebody you know what I'm saying but when I went to D Mecca God it was a it was a certain level of seriousness that I that I because the first time my experience with them I got on the phone and it was I never forget it was the equality day and um the guy was like yo how you should today's mathematics it's like quality to be equal in all things he said add on now how I got mathematics that have manifestations so I'm repeating what I got so I'm like yeah the woman got six ounces of brain it was the wrong thing to say guy they like and about nine brothers got on that floor you ever weighed a black woman's brain God you know and it was it was like at that moment God I knew to watch what I said you know what I'm saying because if you can't show and prove that if it's what come out your mouth God don't you know but so that's that's really that was you know that's what I would say God the guys is is is serious god they really they really serious about the knowledge indeed now before we go into the book you know I just wanted to give people like a brief history and your personality and the person you are and all that now um how'd you make it to Atlanta uh so and I love Atlanta I don't know what it is about Atlanta hey man it's it's a great place guy it's it's a great place so guys yeah yeah yeah guys to Black Mecca um guy I you know I traveled a lot god I I I always had planned to get out of Indiana and then I had uh uh said that you know I was gonna actually use school I was just gonna transfer my credits and go to college somewhere else um so I uh came out here to Atlanta just to visit I had uh actually applied to Morehouse Clark and um Georgia State we just went on tours at all three me and my cousin and when I came out here God I loved it like it was it was different than being on on the east coast it was different than being in the Midwest it was it was just it was a different vibe God like you said you know and I was like man so um Morehouse out of all three colleges Morehouse had accepted me so you know I basically was like I'm a I guess how I go to Morehouse I'm gonna come out here now the way I came out here God was very like uh unconventional because I really I really just came out here God I didn't really have a a plan I just knew I wanted to get out of Indiana and I I just came out here God and I just kind of built my life and when I was striving to go to Morehouse I didn't know that you know I didn't know the games that the HBCUs play in the financial aid office you know what I mean basically a lot of them are underfunded so they make it seem like you know because I always wonder why people was talking about Morehouse was so hard um the reality of it is they they spend more time in the financial aid office fighting for their financial aid pack it you know I mean than they doing class so when I went um when I went they was basically like oh you don't you don't got no um you got a zero gpa or something like that and I was you know I used to work for my college and I I worked in the acad academia uh part of my college so I knew I'm like try I mean GPA doesn't transfer so you know what y'all talking about and they just they they just give you the runaround they give you the runaround and I really wasn't in no position to play the game with them so I ended up going to school online and staying out here you know and I just built my life like that you know that's peace and I just I came here and I stayed that's peace that's peace now um what hold on one second my bad so uh now in Atlanta real quick um do you build with any gods of earth out there in Atlanta yeah guy um I I got I got a uh student out here at True Sincere that I taught um but you know I I built with you know iatomic um um is this true sincere DJ got okay that's the guy right there that's one of the guys I taught um so i atomic justice love born king supreme understanding um he rulers he ruler which you know he uh he i think he helped supreme understanding publish his books that's who helped me publish mine so yeah he ruler um so yeah i i've i've and I've been to Latif Cypher too right Latique yeah Latif I gotta I gotta I gotta build with that guy when I get out there next time yeah yeah I've been to his cipher yeah indeed indeed uh from from what I know from building on building with him on the phone a couple times over the years that's an intense guard right there yeah yeah yeah yeah the guy is uh if you ever go to one of his rallies I I would I would just say the guy is pretty he pretty militant you know what I'm saying pretty yeah pretty militant guys right right but the personal training right I I think so yeah I think so yeah indeed so now let's get into the book The Silent Work by Knowledge King now explain to me what brought this book on you know if you could break it down you know chapter by chapter I know you don't want to give too much away because you want people to read it but what inspired you to make to write this book so man the the the you know this honestly it was it was a conversation with myself um since I since I got knowledge itself um I was always turned on to to different esoteric books starting with like the Kybalian um so I would I would read so many throughout the year and and at first I was just seeing how it correlates to supreme mathematics taking it through mathematics applying it to my life or whatever and um then it got to the point to where I under I started to see a correlation between what I was learning in psychology and some of these esoteric teachers you know uh just just some of the the inner because you know Carl Young man he was into the cult so if you start looking into his version of psychoanalysis and some of the things in which he talks about with psychoanalysis Carl Jung actually took himself through the alchemical process and he documented it and so um he has a book called the psychology of alchemy and in that book uh it's the book is like this thick guy's probably 400 pages but it was one line in that book that stood out to me he said symbols speak to the subconscious mind now you know drew ali says you know signs and symbols for the for the conscious mind and the way that he broke it down I understood the the occult and what they were what they were actually doing. And I started studying the information um more so through consciousness versus intellect if that makes sense I wasn't intellectually analyzing it I was consciously taking it in and and and allowing it to be experiential versus like you know intellectually analyzing it and that was that was like examining it yeah yeah that was the the start of of the silent work it was it was it became an inner documentation of inner transformation it became me actually understanding that the you know what inner transformation was and taking myself through that process and at first I was documenting it like for myself and then you know I I came to be like oh I should write a book and you know that's where I I began to write the book all right so inner transformation right you started writing it down now what's what does inner transformation mean to you through your experience before writing this book right so one thing I learned through psychoanalysis right like we talk about the five stages of consciousness um your whole life is a manifestation of your subconscious of your subconscious mind like probably like 90% of your life and the thing about that is the subconscious is the unconscious is things there that you're not really aware of so you you're manifesting your life or a good chunk of your life let's say 70 or 60 70% of your life from a place that you're not even fully aware of right um so that that the inner transformation actually starts there what's in your subconscious mind okay that's a fact indeed now you know uh uh I don't know if you know who this guy is but Joe Despenser talks about that I never heard of him do the knowledge to Joe Despenser as soon as you get a chance let's do this let's do this next level um now and he talks about changing your life through the subconscious mind yeah and even me you know what I ain't gonna go into that I was getting ready to go into women and all that but I ain't gonna I seem to find I seem to find my grandmother and my mom all the time in women you know I mean I'm I'm realizing that yeah yeah yeah and and that's see that's see that that's the start of inner transformation right so it's it's it's being able you know I got the book right here so if you look at the book it's it's a person beginning the process of of turning inward and seeing seen within right so all of this blackness this is symbolic to the subconscious mind but this spark is symbolic to you becoming aware of what's there right so the reality of it is the starter in the transformation is you beginning to turn inward and to understand your reactions your impulses your your patterns now it's it's the point of like what you said I I see my my grandmother and my mother and women so that allows you to be able to look at the type of women that you have chosen right and why you have chosen them so at that point this is where you know in the book I talk about transmutation um because you have to transmute before you can transform so you you take that you take yourself and you observe yourself free of the ego because when you observe yourself with the ego you begin to judge yourself and this is where most people run away from self-reflection because they don't you know the ego a lot of times can't take you know I mean the the the judgment that is going to give itself so if you if you observe yourself with no ego and you're able to see it for what it is you can take that and transmute that you can take that impulse that reaction that pattern and transmute it into something greater right what people would say like turning lead into gold right and you you continue to do that over and over and over and over you continue to observe your subconscious mind all of your patterns all of your your your reactions to understand why it is the way it is and you transmute it into something greater okay now when you say looking at yourself without ego right is like you know not denying actual facts about yourself yeah because you don't you kind of like don't want to face yourself. Is that what it is like yeah so so the ego a lot of people um say the ego is bad and like you know they say you gotta have an ego death and I would say me personally that's not necessarily true the ego is the identity that you form to exist in the material world but what happens is when the ego is is misplaced it forms many identities so many of us who have gone through trauma you know our egos identify with our trauma it identifies with our environment it are it identifies with you know things that people have projected onto us because the ego it being your identity also has to protect you so let's say you grew up and people was picking on you about a certain attribute about yourself it's the ego once you're able to dismiss that and replace it with something else well at least I don't got this or at least I don't got that and you you take on that identity and you know that that allows you to be immune to whatever that's the ego protecting protecting you you get what I'm saying so when when all of these things is happening psychologically that you probably are unaware of when you begin to observe yourself and you say okay this comes from this place that wound or that trauma or that whatever that projection that's placed upon you you know I mean the ego has been trying to protect you from that the whole time so you get what I'm saying so you're gonna naturally reject so for instance if you telling somebody about themselves and you say say you got a friend and you like yo you remember when they was getting abused or they seen their mother get abused and then you see how it's playing out in their adult life and you just have a real conversation with them be like hey man maybe this is what's affecting you the moment that they reject it is the ego protecting that person from those wounds yo we gotta have you up again bro yo all right okay so now we know what the ego is yeah now we know what the ego is so now that now my another question I I have for you is this the subconscious mind has so much programming in there yeah right yeah how do you pick apart the program programming bit by bit because I can have a program because just like I just discovered this kind of talking to you now and in in earlier just thinking about it um I realized the women that I like they're like their personalities are exactly like my mom and grandmother yeah right so that's just one program right now then I have other programming so now how do you identify each set of programs man so in in my in my book right uh chapter three and four right um it's tied up the flame in the mirror right and how how long do we got because I don't want to talk too long but 20 minutes 20 minutes okay so with you know in in many esoteric and the code traditions they they they use the flame even the flame is is something that's identified as uh in in the Bible right you know Moses talking to a burning bush it's it's it's in every tradition you can find this this flame so in my book what the flame is is is the flame is it's the burning of or the releasing of all of the things all of these programs that really don't belong that's really not of you right um and what happens is is when you process start the process of inner transformation this flame is lit once you start the process of turning inward and and and taking this descent this inner descent within the self the flame is lit and all of these things will naturally rise you just like what's happening now this is naturally happening right you didn't you didn't ask for it it's just that once we started talking about inner transformation you was able to identify that program so it it naturally comes to the surface it's about whether you resist it so there's not like a a method that I can give you to be like oh this is how you find every single programmer but what I can say is is that once you start the process of inner transformation all of these things come to the surface because all you when you take the inner descent the conscious just dies within the subconscious all of the information of self that you need is hidden within your subconscious mind. So once you take that inner descent you know start going into that process of inner transformation it's all there so then you know this is where we we talk about knowledge of self what is his what what is his own self this is where you start to identify what is your own self and what is the things in which was projected onto you what is the what is the things that was talking about so you will you will naturally come to those realizations once you take the inner descent you know it's not something that that anybody could tell you and this is why this is the silent work I'm glad you asked that question because it has to happen in silence this isn't something that you can talk about or something that you can really explain because it's the depths of yourself.

SPEAKER_00

So this process has to happen in silence because if you aren't present in the moment you would miss what's actually there and those 18 people in the chat you guys are late man come on with the CPT time what how you call it that's the name of it color people time come on now Ron Brown whenever I'm on I'm starting right on time yo so that was that's a piece right there so now um as far as the book is concerned right if you can give us like a like a summary of what the book is all about.

SPEAKER_01

Oh one more question before we do that is meditation a part of this solid work yes so so I can answer both questions with this right so the book is written uh in a unique structure I call it a triple breast structure so you have a veiled chapter an unveiled chapter and a gate so the veil chapter is it is like I said symbolism speaks to just the subconscious right it speaks to consciousness so that veil chapter will actually strike consciousness it'll bring things from the subconscious mind to the conscious mind and Then then the unveil speaks to the intellect. You see what I'm saying? So it's going to explain the inner process that you just experienced. And then the gate it teaches integration. And from that integration, you know, at the end, it gives the exercise for you to be able to embody all the things that you just learned.

SPEAKER_00

Boom. Now is the born, right? Indeed, indeed, indeed. All right. So uh we spoke about the meditation. So, what techniques of meditation? Can you talk about that? Or that's giving too much for what you want people to read the book.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I would rather people read a book. One thing I can say about meditation, this is one thing I'm gonna say about meditation. I think people, um, people, a lot of people I know, man, they be like, I try to meditate, but I can't quiet my mind. Because they read uh about these, you know, quiet in your mind. And I think that they they they don't understand what's actually happening, which is what I've been speaking about. You can consciously cut off thought. You could consciously say, I'm not about thinking about nothing. Just like you can consciously say, I'm putting my hands down. But you know, what's but this but the subconscious thoughts, once you stop consciously thinking, what's in your subconscious mind comes to the surface. So just because that happens, it doesn't mean that you're not quieting your mind. It actually gives you the opportunity to observe what's there. You see what I'm saying? So uh anybody who who's in the meditation, I would say don't run away from meditation just because you feel as though you can't quiet your mind. The more that you do meditation, that silence will begin to appear. You see what I'm saying?

Superconscious Mind And Esoteric Parallels

SPEAKER_00

All right. Now, being that you're a psychop uh psychic psychology major, yeah, right. Uh um, as far as the the the five stages of consciousness, yeah, did you of course you didn't learn, you know, above, I don't well, I don't think you learned above the unconscious mind or the super or the subconscious mind in school. Yeah. How do you see the five stages of consciousness? Is it realistic? Is it broad?

SPEAKER_01

Is it I talk about three in the book. I go to the superconscious, but I'm gonna tell you guys, I I did this is what this was another part of my journey, right? Which you may have to have me on again. Um, but I I I I found the superconscious, the magnetic conscious, and infinite conscious in the esoteric world. It's is it that was it because I'm like, where else can you find this besides our teachers? You know, in the nation of Islam is in a problem book. You know what I mean? What else is plus degrees? Um so the superconscious God is is is really like the divine mind. So you got the you got the uh the conscious, the subconscious, right? And then you have the superconscious that that's what's bringing it all together. So let's say, for instance, you like with your you do the workout thing, oh you got the NYP talk show, and you're um you're like, yo, I'm you're consciously thinking that this is what you're gonna do with this NYP talk show. So you're planting them seeds within your subconscious mind. It's the superconscious that brings all of these events about because that's the that's the place where you can actually project yourself in the future, right? Or you can you can you can actually take yourself back to the past consciously, right? So in a cult world, when they were talking about the superconscious, they would say things like, oh, if you want a big house, don't put so many details on what you want. I want a big four-bedroom house in this neighborhood, blah, blah. Just see yourself in this house. And it appeared because what happens is the superconscious, it it it how they would put it, it aligns with all the divine laws, the cosmic, the cosmic laws, or whatever. And so if you try to put your own thoughts upon it, you would put a limitation on the mind. Just allow the mind to do what it does, right?

SPEAKER_00

So I would say this I don't mean to cut your wisdom. Go ahead. You said that uh just allow the conscious to do what it does, right? Yeah, I would say that's a liking to blind faith in Christianity.

SPEAKER_01

So, so, so not really, God, if you understand how consciousness, how consciousness works, right? It's not it's so I put it like this say you want a house. I'm not telling you, hey, go sit down and meditate and just think about the house and it's gonna come. No, that's not what I'm saying. Save your money, get your credit right, do all the things that you gotta do, but instead of visualizing every single detail, right? Just visualize the type of house you want. You want a four-bedroom, three-bathroom house, that's it. And keep working towards that and allow that to work because that's what's gonna, that's where we get into the magnetic conscious. That's you're gonna attract that to you. You're gonna bring it to you. So if you if I'm just and I'm repeating back what I've read also, God, it's because I'm I'm I'm giving it in their language and not in ours, because I'm just trying to speak universal. Um what what they what they is basically saying was is um or what I was saying was let consciousness do what it do. Is it's not necessarily blind faith, it's knowing that the the when you visualize these things and you work towards it, you're actually going to bring it to yourself. Pardon stuff, I had to figure out a way to put that. You feel what I'm saying? Do that do that make sense, yes, sir.

SPEAKER_00

For sure, for sure. Because you you're putting it in your subconscious mind, though. Like, okay, this is where I want to be, and you actively start working towards those steps, yeah, yeah. To get this this thing, okay.

SPEAKER_01

And once once it's there, you know what I'm saying? And so, me personally, I tested it out too. Like this, this isn't theory for me. I'm just speaking, you know what I mean? I've tested it out, and but it's that's basically the superconscious. How the guys taught me the super conscious, what they taught me the superconscious was, was like I said, they would say it's your ability to project yourself in the future. I don't know if you heard Papa Woolver, that that video Papa Wu had where he said you can project yourself into the future. That was him building on the superconscious. So when I went to the esoteric world, they were saying the same thing, just in a different language. So I I kind of had to like translate, you know, because they was putting it in like real life scenarios of like, okay, you know, if if you want this, you use the superconscious, but you this is how you use the superconscious, is you don't you don't try to tell yourself every little detail. Okay, I'm gonna do it like like it for instance, guy, where people be like, you know, how they thought life was gonna end up, or they may have achieved their goals, but how they got there wasn't nowhere near how they thought they was gonna get there. So the way in which they planned everything to get to this place, they went this way instead of going that way. You get what I mean? So the the superconscious is you you're not you're you know what I mean, you're not gonna 100% control every single event in life. You get what I'm saying? You're the sole controller of yourself, but when you are involving other parties, you can't control every event and everything that happens. So when you go into the sub the super conscious and you're trying to give it every single detail, it's never gonna work like that. I mean, I for my life, I don't, you know, guy, have you have you had an experience where every detail that you planned it it worked out exactly when you learned it? So that's that's why with the superconscious, it works if you just say, Well, I want this, and you work towards it, you know, and you allow when I say allow for things to work itself out, if it's other things, other parties involved, that that's what's but let everything align with you. What's yours is yours. I don't even know that if that makes sense, guys. Um the the magnetic conscious got us a book called Um The Art and Science of Magnetism. And in this book, he basically breaks down magnetism uh through the science of electromagnetic energy. And he says that uh some people are electric and some people are magnetic, and some people are electromagnetic. And he was saying that people that are electric more so deal with the physical aspect. So he was saying basically um like uh he think he used like the example of like a drill sergeant, people who've been into the military. He's like, these people are strict and disciplined, that's the electric current, is what he was dealing with, right? And then he said some people are magnetic, which deals with the mental or the mind, and it deals with a certain level of charisma, right? And then some people are electromagnetic where they have the discipline and the charisma. You see what I'm saying? And then he mentioned how some people actually have no magnetic and they have to build the magnetic up, right? You know, and so that was that's a book. It's called uh the art and science of magnetism. I don't have the author, but if you type that that title in it's gonna come up, and and then um cosmic consciousness um is the like the cult. Uh that's what they that a lot of them strive for in the Rosa Crucians, the Hermetic Order, the Golden Dawn. And basically, God, cosmic consciousness is where you your mind is in tune with the universal laws, and you only move off universal law. So, in other words, with us, it would be with, you know, you just pure living mathematics. That's the base, basic way to put it. You feel what I'm saying? So, you know, instead of saying infinite consciousness, they just say cosmic consciousness. But through my research, that was that was um those other three stages of consciousness. And I mentioned the first three um in the book, in the silent work.

Psychedelics Shortcuts And Where To Buy

SPEAKER_00

So now uh before we cut out, break down you know, exactly what people should be looking for in this book. So the so the book, man, it's what to believe, how to think.

SPEAKER_01

You know, I'm basically guiding you on a uh inner journey or inner process to be able to sit with yourself and observe yourself and deal with some form of inner transformation. Um it's just something to make you greater. Um, and and I do it in a very suggestive way. It's not it's not like yo, this is the truth or this is this. You can agree or disagree. Um, but the point is, is for you to eventually begin to see yourself. You know what I'm saying? So um this is a book that's strictly about self-reflection. It's strictly uh it's a journey, it's a journey, uh inner journey, a journey that you take within yourself to allow you to be able to look within and and and process, you know, what's actually there.

SPEAKER_00

That's peace, God. That's peace. Uh what comes to mind when you talk about, you know, everything you've spoken about about the book, which I I gotta pick that book up because I'm actually in that process right now, right? I've been I have been for a while. Um I don't know if you ever taken psychedelics before. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So so yeah, guy, yeah. Um it's it's it's a it's psychology, it's a psychological, you know, it's like it's like it's like it's like a uh how can I say it uh uh it's a shortcut. It's the shortcut.

SPEAKER_01

It is, and see what what shrooms like things like psychedelics, like shrooms and stuff like that, what it does is it shares the ego, so it allows you to experience yourself. So the style of work does something similar, you know what I'm saying? It allows you to experience yourself with the shared another ego, you know. So it is an intense experience. Love it. So yeah, guys, I think I think you should pick it up, man. And you know, if you want to run it back and ask specific questions about the book or whatever, we could we could definitely do that.

SPEAKER_00

We can definitely do that. We get in the book is is small, it's short. It's not it's not too great. It's a small little book, man.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you know, it ain't that big. Um so you can get through it. You can get through it, you know, in no limited time. I would also I want to tell people that you can buy the book at um you can buy the book at thesilentwork.com and you can follow me on Instagram at the silentwork777. Um on my website. Yeah, on my website, uh uh and my my personal page is Niless Sincere. Instagram let me use Niless Sincere. But uh on my on my website, I have a blog where I I write about certain topics um that has that's that has to do with the silent work. So, you know, if you thinking about buying a book but don't know if you really want to buy it, you can go to my site, like I said, the silentwork.com, and you can um you can read the blogs. You can read what the book is.

SPEAKER_00

Please, please. Broke up. Check out peace. Can you hear me? Yeah, hear you now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, okay, okay. So, yeah, just check out the site. You can order it personally from me. You can get an autograph copy personally from me, or you can order it on Amazon.

SPEAKER_00

So indeed, God, I just followed you on both of your uh your joints. This is peace, peace, God. Uh, we would definitely build gonna have you on, man. This is my subject right here. The mind. This is my subject right here. We we can get deep on this, and then we finished off with psychedelics so I'm happy. I appreciate you having me on, Lord. Indeed. I appreciate you for coming out this evening. Peace to everybody in the chat. Uh, The Silent Work by Knowledge King is the book. You can find it on Amazon and also the website. The website is what? Thesilentwork.com. The silentwork.com. Uh, and then you can follow him on Instagram, the silentwork seven seven seven, or you could find him, Knowledge Sincere, right? Yeah, Knowledge Sincere. Knowledge Sincere. On that note, peace to you, brother. Glad to have you back in a couple weeks. And peace.