Yz Asia On Finding Self-Knowledge Through The 5 Percent Nation

A lot of people talk about “knowledge” like it’s a slogan. We don’t. Sitting with Wise Asia in our first in-studio NYP Talk Show recording, we get into what self-knowledge actually costs, what it demands, and why real wisdom always comes with responsibility. Yz Asia takes us back to the Bronx, to Catholic upbringing, street teachers, and that restless feeling that the official answers never quite added up.

From there, she tells the truth about searching through systems that look clean on the outside but run on control behind the scenes, including the red flags of groups that want your entire check and your silence. She explains why the Five Percent Nation resonated: no recruiting, no begging, and no shortcuts. We also dig into Firstborn Prince, mouth-to-ear learning, the discipline behind Supreme Mathematics and the Supreme Alphabet, and what it means to “make the math walk and talk” in everyday life.

We connect culture to hip hop history, name names, and call out the difference between research and rumor, including why artists like GZA get invited into spaces like MIT and Harvard. Yz Asia also speaks on Puerto Rican “power rules,” colorism, and why character matters more than image. And yes, we address the headlines: Fat Joe’s “Godsville” and “Crack Kim Allah” claim gets put against one standard only: facts. If you value culture, critical thinking, and real receipts, hit play then subscribe, share, and leave a review so more people find the build.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:16

What's going on, everybody? It's Ron Brown, LMT the People's Fitness Professional, and we are here today with Wise Wise Asia. Before we go into Wise Asia, remember, uh, you know, first off, I want to say this. This is NYP Talk Show's second year of podcasting. Um, yes, yes. Second year of podcasting. We did two years of streaming online. That was the focus, that was the plan. That was the plan from the get-go. We were gonna say, we we said we're gonna go with streaming online first and seeing how the audience likes this podcast. If the audience likes the podcast, then we're gonna then do it in studio. So now we're here. You guys like the podcast, so we're here in studio now. So um also remember Soul Brother number one is in the building. Soul Brother number one, Ron Brown LMT with Wise Asia. Wise Asia, how you be?

SPEAKER_04 1:18

Peace, peace, peace. Thank you for having me. I'm honored as always.

SPEAKER_00 1:23

Indeed. Peace to the earth. Uh, the earth has been um supportive since I met her, you know. Um, and she was like, God, if it's just me and you today, it's just me and you. Let's rock out. And I really appreciate you for that, you know, for that. You know what I'm saying? I really appreciate you.

SPEAKER_04 1:40

Always, always.

Bronx Roots And Early Awakening

SPEAKER_00 1:41

Now, the people love to hear you speak. The people love to hear you speak. So let's let's let's kick it real quick. So I know you broke this down before on the podcast about your history, okay, but but now we're live in in a in a studio. So let's talk about your history a little bit. Um and let's talk about it. Like, where were you born and raised?

SPEAKER_04 2:04

So I'm from right here, Bronx, Lebanon. I was born in 1971, um, December 16, 1971. Dr. Banks was the first man to smack my booty and charged my mother hella money, and charged my dad hella money for that. Um, so yeah, Bronx, Lebanon, shout out to the BX. I was born mentally and physically in the Bronx. That's where I got the knowledge at originally. That's where I first heard that um the original man is God. There is no mystery God. It was from um Brothers in the Bronx, really, school um is where I first heard about um being God, having knowledge yourself, um not accepting everything that's being taught to you, challenge. If somebody claims to be your teacher or your educator, have them show and prove everything that they're saying. And that was like right up my alley. Because in the first podcast I did with you, I had the analogy with the TV shows, right? So um I was already awakening on my own. Things weren't really adding up to me. Um, I come from uh the worst kind of Christian family, um, Catholics, the Roman Catholics. The Romans, like I tell my family all the time, even to this day. I'm like, the Romans killed Jesus. How can you say you love Jesus and go to a Roman Catholic church, like making it?

SPEAKER_03 3:43

Right, right. I never thought of that. I never thought of that.

SPEAKER_04 3:46

Yeah, you know, so um what you call it. So yeah, so I got the knowledge in in the Bronx, even though I'm taught by a firstborn prince, peace be upon him always. Um, but I I had a um Hari Krishna on the corner for me. I think they're still there. They're on um 100 and I think 80F and Anthony Avenue.

SPEAKER_01 4:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 4:16

And um I had loved it when I first saw it, you know, the little timbre, the little chatty, the nice little linen. I was like, oh, that shit is fire, you know. They be real peace. But I don't like groups where they talk about you don't need money, but they want all of your money.

SPEAKER_01 4:35

Right, indeed.

Why Some Groups Feel Like Traps

SPEAKER_04 4:37

I I never, you know, that's a big red flag for me. I have issues with that. I don't like anything where you're taking from me and I have nothing. So if I want to leave, I have nothing. I have to start from scratch. No, that don't work for me. That's why I like um 5% culture because we don't recruit. You know, we teach whether you accept it or not. I'm gonna teach you. Yo, the original man is God, the maker and owner of the planet Earth. You're gonna know that about me quickly. And I don't care what you do with that, what you do with that information is not my responsibility. Your understanding of my knowledge is not my responsibility, right? My responsibility is to teach and go. Teach and go. I'm here to give you something and take something and go on with my life. I'm not here to watch you bloom and blossom. That's not my destiny, and I really love that about this culture. I really love that you can't make a man, a man has to become his own man, a woman has to become her own woman. See, I can't, I'm not here to mimic who taught me or to mimic those before me. I'm here to be myself and to embrace my own individuality. So I love that.

From Street Teachers To Ansaar

SPEAKER_00 6:10

Indeed, indeed. Now, I want to I got a question for you. So you said firstborn prince wasn't the person who sparked you. No, okay. So who sparked you then?

SPEAKER_04 6:18

I told you the ruthless drug dealing killing.

SPEAKER_00 6:25

I don't remember. Remember that was we did that first podcast a minute ago. So, so who was it?

SPEAKER_04 6:31

Those three brothers I told you about that was on what 83rd and Crescent. Okay. Divine, Jabbar, and Abdullah.

SPEAKER_01 6:39

All right.

SPEAKER_04 6:40

So I always heard them speaking, but you know, they came out double lovers. They, you know, into the divine rules, and so as I I heard them speak this great knowledge, and it it filled me in a way that I can't explain to this day. It resonated something in me, and I knew that what they were saying, they didn't really have the full understanding of their knowledge. Okay, I knew that, and um, so that's who um originally had sparked me, and um I learned, and then I went into Islam. I went into the worst kind of Islam. Um Dr. Yorks. I tapped into Dr. Yorks for about okay.

SPEAKER_00 7:38

So pardon me, pardon me. Don't mean to cut your wisdom. So so after after learning from you know from them, them gods, you then went to York, and this was still in P-Lon.

SPEAKER_04 7:48

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 7:49

Wow, okay.

SPEAKER_04 7:50

All of this is in P-Lon.

SPEAKER_00 7:52

Now, okay, so now was that the uh Ansaw Law community?

SPEAKER_04 7:55

Yep, wow, and I traveled from P-Lon to Medina, and I told you I was attracted to the literature, right? And because Dr. Yorks has a book on everything, and then you know, little pamphlet size, you know, nice print, so um easy to read, the the verbiage, you know, you don't gotta open up a dictionary. It's pretty self-explanatory. So I I enjoyed that. It wasn't until I got to the temple that I saw the filth and nastiness of um Iman Esau. It was Imam Esau at the time.

SPEAKER_01 8:36

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_04 8:37

And it wasn't until I was there that I saw um the place was immaculately clean. I didn't see a breadcrumb. First of all, he had a pizza shop on the corner. That had to be the best righteous pizza I ever had in my life. And then the bookstore was next to it. Come on.

SPEAKER_00 8:58

Yo, he was industrious.

SPEAKER_04 9:00

Like, you couldn't get, and and also that was the only area in Brooklyn where I never heard loud music after 10 o'clock, like cars driving by and stuff like that. Like they had it really, they had it really tight on the outside looking in. It's amazing. Like, that's what you imagine a self-proclaimed community to be. They're self-supportive, they're productive, they have a unity, they have a sisterhood, brotherhood, you know. Uh uh sister gave me gear, you know. She was like, Oh, you don't you don't know how to dress, but like you have this knowledge, but you don't dress. And I was like, No. Um, she was like, Yeah, boom, and I was like, like nobody ever did that in my life, nobody ever just gave to to give, you know, that was the first experience, and then a sister telling me that I was beautiful, that was different, like not on no gay shit, you know, because men don't tell a woman she's beautiful all the time. You hear it all day, oh my god, yo, sure. But for a sister to be like, wow, you're so beautiful, it's like what? Like you, like, yes, you're beautiful, your radiance, you're this, you're that, you're beautiful. So that was different. Um, that sisterhood, that bonding, that was kind of different. But then also, he's another one. Give me everything you got, and you stay with nothing. Um, the brothers that were out there with the table, if they didn't make a hundred dollars a day, they would get beat up.

SPEAKER_02 10:48

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 10:50

They would get beat up. And the sisters, if they worked, they had to give their whole check. If they were on public assistance, they had to give their whole check. If they were on SSI, whatever, they had to give their whole check. And the whole thing is you're provided shelter, you're provided food, you're provided clothing. What do you need money for?

SPEAKER_02 11:13

Whoa.

SPEAKER_04 11:14

He needs money to pay the electricity bill, the water bill, supply the food, you know, transportation, laundry, you know, products like that. So it kind of makes sense, but it doesn't.

SPEAKER_00 11:30

Right. So you went into that organization?

SPEAKER_04 11:32

I didn't stay.

SPEAKER_00 11:34

So how long? So how long? What was the period like?

SPEAKER_04 11:36

I was going for the Sunday services. I enjoyed that where you get to really see him and hear him speak. And he's a very good speaker. It's very clear, very concise. Uh, he takes material and make it relevant. He'll take material from, you know, the Bible, the Quran, and make it relevant to what's going on today. He had a lot of big things about war, causes of war, uh, the propaganda of war, um, the benefits. So he'll take you through a lot of history, a lot of relevant information. It's very, very captivating. It's very captivating. If you're somebody who's easily led, you will stop there. You know, if that's what you're looking for, that will be your final destination. But I told you for the first time, I've never been one to, it's easy to get my attention. Anyone can get my attention, anything can get my attention, but to keep me focused is the game. So I lose interest in things super fast. If they don't start adding up, I don't try to figure out why or what. I'm like, oh, this don't add up to me. Bye. I'm gone. So that didn't add up to me. It was it was a great experience. I enjoyed it. I'm glad it was part of my history. I would say I was there about three months.

SPEAKER_00 13:17

Three months. All right. That's that's a good amount of time. That's a good amount of time.

SPEAKER_04 13:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:21

Now, okay, so now after you're there for three months, you were in uh where did you meet Prince?

SPEAKER_04 13:29

So I met Prince out of Parliament. Okay, so how did you get to the parliament from so I'm still in the hood because I never really I was never really a five percenter. Remember, I'm listening. I don't become a five percenter to 1987. We're talking about 1985, I'm like 13. So um, I'm checking out everything. Um my family is is really stone cold 85s, they stone cold, they're poison animal eaters, slaves with mental death and power. They don't know they're they they're the whole eight characteristics of an 85.

SPEAKER_01 14:12

Gotcha.

Family History And Religion Questions

SPEAKER_04 14:13

They're that so um that I I didn't like it. I I I cried when I was probably about four years old. I had a whole fit in the church because they had the um stages of the cross, the 12 stages. Do you know what that is?

SPEAKER_00 14:35

The 12 stages of the cross. Only thing I remember in church was uh the the the disciples and so they're showing how Jesus gets beat.

SPEAKER_04 14:49

Oh nah, and the and the and the cry like it's very horrific. So I'm noticing that, and then Jesus on the cross, he's nailed to the cross, and there's blood on his hands, and blood, and I wigged out, all of that was so horrible to me. So they had to take me out to church, and then um what you call it, my mother was still like, you gotta you gotta do your communion, and I'm like, this is not right, like this is not right. Like, I didn't know how to really make it make sense to them, but it wasn't right to me. And um I grew up in a household where the white man was the devil. I didn't know that the original man was God. I didn't, they didn't teach that in my house, but we taught that they taught in my family because um Puerto Rico's natural disaster, it's in the Caribbean, right? Puerto Rico's between um the Virgin Islands and Hispaniola, right? Right? So um so Puerto Rico has uh hurricanes and America came like America does, right? We're coming to relieve you. So my family is farmers. So my grandmother didn't eat anything that she didn't kill or grow. If she didn't kill it or grow it, it was not on the table. So America came and they offered Puerto Rico relief, and they gave Puerto Rico loans, the farmers, loans with interest rate knowing that they couldn't pay the interest rate. So this is how America made Puerto Rico Commonwealth. And my family, so where I'm from in Ponce, um, there's this hill that swirls. I can't think of the name of it right now, but everybody from Ponce knows what I'm talking about. So it's one hill that swirls. My great-grandfather took everybody from the bottom from the where the land was to the top of that hill. And um you wasn't allowed to fuck with no Americans. We don't see like my mother grew up in a house where she couldn't speak English, and she's here in New York. Okay, English is for school and work. And so my great-grandfather had put in everybody's head that the white man is the devil. No good comes from the white man. You don't eat his food, you don't speak with his language, and you don't mess with his people. And then Diablo, no huege conge, he's the devil, you don't play with him, nothing good comes from him. So when I heard 5% is talking about the white man was the devil, I was like, I know that, I know exactly how that goes down.

SPEAKER_00 18:15

Because you already was hearing that, yeah, yeah. Like like my dad, he would tell me uh that the black man was God, and um he said it if he would say it when he was drinking. You know what I'm saying? And then the next day he's going back to you know, God in heaven. You know what I'm saying? So, so yeah, I I could dig it. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:39

I got an uncle like that. My my uncle gets drunk, peace be upon him, he just died last year. Um, my uncle Jesse, he gets on the black man is this, the black man is that, and when he's drunk, and then when he's sober, the oh thank you, Jesus, thank you. Good God Almighty, Lord. Yeah, I got that. So I'll come for that.

SPEAKER_00 19:04

So so now taking it back to Prince.

Meeting Firstborn Prince In Motion

SPEAKER_04 19:08

Oh, so how I meet Prince. Okay, so I even though I was going to the Ansaw community on Sundays, um, I'm still looking at everything else. I'm researching Buddha. Um, I told you the the Harry Krishna's on the corner. I'm researching everything. I'm like, I need to know one of these gotta be right. One of these gotta be. And going to the Ansaw community is how I found out that there are other kinds of Muslims. Like, there's um variations of Christianity, yeah, there's variations of Islam. I didn't know that. I thought it was, you know, what no. Um, I learned that mood awakening. Um, so yeah, so I'm still learning and I'm still going around. And I told you about the earth. I think she's um smooth bees wife. I could be wrong, I could be very wrong, but I think that's smooth bees baby mother. She used to be the earth, and that's the one who spoke to me and told me I had it all wrong that I needed to find an elder. So I'm going around. I don't know that Prince is watching me. According to Prince, he watched me for a whole year before he spoke to me. So I'm I'm coming around and I had a child in 1989. So in 1987, I made the decision that I was the earth. I was like, this is the one. They don't ask for money, I don't gotta recruit people. Um, you know what I mean? I don't gotta, I gotta be responsible for myself.

SPEAKER_03 20:59

Right.

SPEAKER_04 21:00

Anything that I speak about, I gotta know. If I don't know, son, I need to shut up. So I was like, yeah, I like this because I like to talk, you know what I mean? So all I gotta do is have facts with what I'm saying, and I can rub my mouth. Yeah, this is yeah, that resonated with me. I was like, yeah, boy. Because a lot of people talk and don't know what they talking about, right? So that resonated with me. I was like, yeah, so that's how I first got the notoriety that I still have with me today.

SPEAKER_00 21:35

Right. So when you met Prince, and he you said he was watching you for a year. That's what he said. Right, that's what he said, right? That is that to me, that's like kind of the same thing as like like even like Masons in a lodge, like they'll watch you for us for a period, and then they'll say, All right, he's ready, or whatever the case may be. So that's that sounds interesting to me. I sometimes I like to like, you know, you know, correlate correlate things, you know what I'm saying? I noticed like a lot of the cultures that we are involved with, they're all kind of one and the same. You know what I'm saying? So he watched you for a year, and then who did he approach you or he approached you?

SPEAKER_04 22:12

He approached me. So the infamous story that I tell is we're on the subway going home, um, and I have my young earth with me. And um my young earth drops this ball, and the brother that's talking to Prince picks it up. So I take the ball and I tell my daughter, I'm like, what do you say? And she tells him, Thank you, and I give her the ball. And Prince is like, Yo, God, did you see that? So I'm looking at this old man. I'm like, the fuck is he talking about? He's like, Did you see her ways and actions? So everybody's looking at Prince. He was like, She took the ball from you, she didn't let you give the ball to her daughter because you're a stranger. Did you pee that about her? And he was like, Nah. And he was like, and then she didn't give her daughter, she told her daughter, what do you tell him? Which means she's already been teaching her, thank you, and you're welcome. And when her daughter gave her the correct response, she gave her the reward, the ball. I'm like, yo, that's parenting. Like everybody, he was like, nah, God, like, that's a mother. Like, did you peep that? That's mother, that's mothering right before you. And I'm like, is it like every like every parent supposed to do that?

SPEAKER_03 23:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:50

So then um Prince was like, who's your God? And I'm like, I don't have a guard. So he's like, You got a baby. Like, you got a guard. I'm like, well, we're not together no more, and I don't have a guard. He's like, so what are you doing here? I was like, well, the block is teaching me. So I forgot how many brothers it was. Like maybe I think the block had like 20 brothers, but I think in attendance that day was like 13, something like that.

SPEAKER_00 24:20

So this is a block, a block where?

SPEAKER_04 24:23

Or um the guards from um Bedford, really from um so this is Medina. Nah, Pelon.

SPEAKER_00 24:31

From oh, Bedford Avenue, okay, over there in Pelon Avenue.

SPEAKER_04 24:34

Bedford Park. And um, so they're really from like Lehman High School. I forgot to stop at Kingsbridge. So it's from like Kingsbridge, the guards from Kingsbridge to Bedford Park.

SPEAKER_01 24:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 24:47

And um and they all pretty much know my daughter's father. So my daughter's father gave me the math and the alphabet, and he was really teaching me how to um walk and talk with the math and alphabet.

SPEAKER_00 25:05

So, can you give me an example of walking and talking with the math and alphabet?

SPEAKER_04 25:09

So, walking and talking with the math. So, you hear a lot of people when they first, and I hate, I I hate, I hate, and this is going rough for a lot of viewers' feathers, but it sickens my stomach when I hear delts build on the knowledge. Knowledge is to know, and they say it in that pattern. Knowledge is to know, knowledge is to look, knowledge is to like shut up. Knowledge is a collection of data that you have to respect. Why do you have to respect the data, right? Because you're learning and you respect yourself, and in respecting yourself, you respect where you are and who you're with, right? First degree, student enrollment, first word, who, right? So you have to respect the who, the what, the where, the when. Then you gotta figure out the how and the why. That's what you're figuring out. So walking and talking with your mathematics is doing the knowledge, right? You're looking, you're listening, you're looking and listening, you're um absorbing, you're learning. Oh, okay. So this is what this looks like in this neighborhood. Oh, okay. So they got police here. This is a bad neighborhood, you know what I mean? Oh, wow. So they got police and dogs over here. So I'm in a really bad neighborhood. Like a scientist. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 26:35

Assessment. Yes, right.

unknown 26:37

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 26:38

So this is what you're doing with your knowledge. That's how you're making your supreme mathematics of knowledge walk and talk. And your alphabets. Um, so the alphabets are pretty, you know, meet me at the born of law rule. You know what I mean? Y'all may give you a C a law double love, you know.

SPEAKER_02 26:58

Right.

SPEAKER_04 26:59

You know, that's when you don't want nosy people around you. But I told you one day I was with the God, and you know, he was like, Don't sit there. You know, the born universal masters there. And the man got up and was like, I ain't no bum god.

SPEAKER_03 27:13

We thought, oh shit.

SPEAKER_04 27:15

You what you look like, okay. My bad. Sorry. So, yeah, that's walking and talking.

SPEAKER_01 27:24

Indeed.

SPEAKER_04 27:25

And then he gave me the autobiography of Malcolm X.

SPEAKER_01 27:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 27:29

That was like Pandora's box for me. That just my brain just opened up because I feel a lot like Malcolm X's mother. When she's like, I could feel the white man's um the white man in my blood, you know? I I'm like, yes, like I can relate to that. How you're original, but you're so fair complex, you're overlooked. And even though you have all that dominance in you, your appearance is how people judge you. And because you appear this pale skin, this light skin, this European look, people don't understand my ancestors, right? The white man calls it DNA, right? We say we walk with our ancestors like it's a joke. No, you really walk with your ancestors, your ancestors are really inside of you.

SPEAKER_00 28:32

Right. I wish I had a bomb to drop on this one.

SPEAKER_04 28:37

So, you know, because I have this um complexion and this appearance, I'm overlooked. But when I dated Allah Justice, he um he took me out of refinement, right? And he had me embrace my natural look and how I could use it to my advantage because I look this way. You don't know all that I have inside of me. So I get to see how filthy you are naturally in your affairs. How you wouldn't be with a chick with a head wrap to here and a skirt to there, and a pendant and a medallion and a whatever. Because you see that and you know you gotta keep it clean. But when you see me like this, you're like, oh, I could do whatever. She ain't nobody. Oh baby, I'm somebody.

Prince Stories And Proving Who Taught

SPEAKER_00 29:31

Right, indeed. Now, now I like how you made uh the Map walk and talk there. If if people were listening. Now, um, first of all, if especially when you're coming from the 5% nation, just listening to her build, you know. I like how you went back to the knowledge. Now, let's go back to the knowledge. Let's go back to the first question. Back to Firstborn Prince, right? So now you met firstborn Prince, you know, you met him on the train station. He started building with you. Now you said you you you looked down, you said you were building with some guards on the block. It was like 13 guys there. Now you you see the 13 guards. What made Prince, how did it start? Did Prince say, you know what? I'm gonna take you under my wing at the end.

SPEAKER_04 30:11

Oh, he cursed them out. He cursed all of them out. He was like, How the fuck is she? He counted all the guards. He said, all of y'all response, and they all were proud. They were like, Yeah, we responsible for her. He said, How the fuck is she supposed to reflect the light of 13 gods? You're gonna destroy her, she'll blow up, try it. And I was like, damn, I never thought of that. I I thought of it as like a brotherhood, you know, right? Kind of like a covenant, you know.

SPEAKER_01 30:44

Right, right.

SPEAKER_04 30:46

And he turned to me and he was like, Listen, if you're really serious about learning this and you want to learn this, I can always be found in a law school in Mecca. I'll teach you. And I was like, This nigga is crazy. I'm not going to see him. Like, this nigga old, like he's father time. Like, so I go to the September rally. That was Children's Day, right? Yeah. In Medina. So now it's September. We back in Mecca. So I go to the September parliament. This motherfucker standing right there. And shouts me out as soon as he sees me. He's like, oh, so you came back. And I'm like, who is this crazy old man? And why does he keep talking to me? So he doesn't let me in. He doesn't, he's not a bully, but he's talking to me to prevent me from going in. And uh, we have a great conversation. He's asking me how I see certain things, where I'm at, what I know, what I think about things, general, like general stuff. And he he's loving, he's loving my perspective. Because you know, I had to hit him with the TV show. Remember that was about and and um the shit of the Bible. Um, why did Cain kill Abel? Oh, this was my doozy with my family. So I I asked about why did Cain kill Abel? Everybody goes into the story of the Bible. I'm like, no, you said the Bible is metaphor, it's not real. Why are you making it real? So they like, I said no, because when you lose, when you use a cane, you lose the ability to stand on your own. That's why Cain killed Abel. So you always lean on something that's not yours instead of standing on your own. Drop the mic on the bam. So, you know, I'm hitting Prince with all of this, you know, my analogy about I'm really thinking, I'm I'm I'm dropping it on him. I'm like, yeah, I got all of this. So he's loving it. So he's like, Listen, I'll teach you. Come come by the school and I'll teach you. And he taught me for a year before I found out he was first, like I knew his name was firstborn prince, but I was taught that the third was Al Jabbar, not firstborn prince. Um I remember I came to the school so mad. I was like, you al Jabu? And he's laughing at me, and I'm like, Nigga, Al Jabu? That's who you were? He was like, You didn't know that? Like, you've been here a whole year, and you didn't know. No, I didn't know that. Nobody told me that. So that was his his last, he was always laughing at me. Even uh my last memory, I saw him the Saturday before he got murdered. And um and even the first, so Prince's favorite thing to do to me was to put me in a head yoke and grab my nose like that and tell me he he would feel like punching me in the nose sometimes. That was his favorite shit. He even did that to me that Sunday because he said um 15,000 old 19 years ago. And I was like, that's incorrect, God. He said, You gonna tell me? So I'm your educator, and you gonna tell me, yes, that's wrong. He said, That's wrong. How is that wrong? I said, God, there's no letters and numbers. He was like, So yoke me up. But yeah, that's me and the old man. The old man love me.

SPEAKER_00 34:52

So how how did he teach you more like mouth to ear, or did he? Mouth to ear.

SPEAKER_04 34:56

I got 120 mouth.

SPEAKER_00 34:57

And then did you did you have to write it down? No.

SPEAKER_04 35:00

You just had to memorize it while he only thing I had to write down was the definition of the math and the alphabets. I had to write it down twice. I had to write down the dictionary, and then I had to write my own.

SPEAKER_00 35:19

That sounds familiar. It really sounds familiar.

SPEAKER_04 35:26

So a lot of people like to talk about Prince now that he's dead. Um, everybody all of a sudden now he taught all these people, and all these people loved him, all of a sudden. But I'm gonna tell you this, and I stand ten toes. I only know Prince the last 10 years of his life, and throughout those last 10 years of his life, I spoke at his funeral, and there's footage of that. So this is not just me telling a story, there's actual evidence of me speaking at his service. Um I went to Rikers Island to visit him. Um, I went to the hospital and spoke to the doctors. Um, a lot of people don't know that hospital and they don't know why he went to that hospital. Um, so yeah, so a lot of people, and they don't have pictures. This is the shit that kills me. A lot of people be like, oh, that was my father, that was this, he was dead. Where your pictures? Why you ain't got no pictures? Like that was your man in the 90s and the 80s, and you don't have no pictures of him. You know him from when you came out your mama's womb, and you ain't got not one picture. You don't have one letter. Prince wrote everybody when he was in jail. You didn't have to be a student to get a letter from Prince. I have a letter he wrote to Wa Kill. Waquil sent it to me. I have that. Oh so you don't have to be a student, and you can see the difference between the letter Prince wrote to Rachil and the letter and Wakil that wrote a five percent of book and the letters that Prince wrote to me. You see the difference, and that's how you could tell who Prince loved and who he gave a generic.

SPEAKER_02 37:46

Right.

SPEAKER_04 37:47

Because if you gave him money, which a lot of these people did, um he would give you something because it's not right to take and not give.

SPEAKER_03 37:58

Right.

SPEAKER_04 37:58

So he would give a jewel, you would get a jewel. A lot of these people who claim um that Prince, you know, was whatever to them, they're$20 students. Um they paid to get their knowledge.

SPEAKER_00 38:15

Damn, they use you you making some strong statements right there.

SPEAKER_04 38:18

I mean, these are facts. These are facts, these are facts. I'm not just I'm not just sitting on a throne and talking. These are these are actual um what method man said these are actual facts to snack on into. So, yes, these are actual, actual facts. It kills me, you know, that a lot of brothers, because they know the dead have never been known to return from the grave. All the history of Islam has never revealed anything of anyone ever returning from a physical death. So they tell these elaborate stories and it sounds good, right? Liars, what I told you the other day, crackheads, right? They tell the best story. Liars, um what's the term for habitual liars?

SPEAKER_01 39:15

Habitual liars, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 39:16

Right? Habitual liars have the greatest because you have to have fragments of truth to make your lie potent. So they use Prince's name to shield their dirty way of life. Because Prince, if you knew Prince, well, you knew Prince.

SPEAKER_00 39:37

I didn't know him, know him. I knew I was there when he was around. I was going to the law school, me and the God Truth Divine. Uh, we would go sit next to Prince. Uh uh like I said, when I would get around Prince, I would barely say anything because Prince was super serious. And and I like I said, I always respected my elders, and he was like, he reminded me of my grandfather. My grandfather, my grandfather, he uh he was in uh uh World War II. My grandfather really didn't say much, but when he opened up his mouth, you would want to listen to what he has to say. And and uh he reminded me of my grandfather, so um he was real serious, and um, you know, when he spoke, he was he was serious, he was dead serious, it meant something. So, you know, I I just really kept quiet around him, you know what I'm saying? All I would say is peace God, peace God, peace God, peace God. I mean, because and I was and I was a kid, so yeah.

SPEAKER_04 40:38

I mean, we were all kids with Prince, like Prince was the old man.

SPEAKER_00 40:42

Yeah, he was an old man, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 40:43

He's 25 years older than me. So that's why he was like a father to me.

SPEAKER_01 40:48

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_04 40:49

Right? Because he's the same age as my mother. And um, he just had, if he would still have been alive, he would have had a born day a few weeks ago. Um, but yeah, so Prince would have been what 78.

SPEAKER_02 41:09

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 41:10

79. He would have been 79 this year.

SPEAKER_00 41:14

So now, now, now we built on Prince. I would we could go on and on and up, like we could give Prince a whole episode, really. Yeah, Prince Prince is that dude. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Uh, I've heard so much about Prince as well in in Pilon. So in Mecca, in Pilon. It seemed like everyone had something to say about Prince.

SPEAKER_04 41:35

Prince taught almost this whole culture. Almost everybody that has this knowledge can trace themselves back to Prince. A good portion. Like your cousin and I relate because we come from black messiah tree, black messiah to a prince.

SPEAKER_01 41:54

Ah, okay.

SPEAKER_04 41:55

So this is how your cousin and I are sisters. This is that's our connection. Yeah.

Hip Hop Figures And Known Gods

SPEAKER_00 42:03

Okay, okay. So I want to ask this now to move on to the next one. I want to know of famous gods you've encountered.

SPEAKER_04 42:12

So I met mad famous gods. Um, can I talk about a famous earth first? Yes. Let's do some wisdom knowledge, right?

SPEAKER_01 42:20

All right.

SPEAKER_04 42:21

So um, the Jerry Earth.

SPEAKER_01 42:25

Nejeri Earth, okay.

SPEAKER_04 42:27

You don't know who she is? I'm so happy you don't know who she is. Because I get to talk about her. So, um, the Jerry Earth, I believe she is from Detroit. Please, Nigerie or Neri people, please do not be mad if I got that wrong. I do think she's from Detroit. Here are the facts. She is the first female at the time, she was the only female to record with the Jizer.

SPEAKER_01 43:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 43:01

She's on uh Jizer's third album, Beneath the Surface. Is she singing? No, she's a rapper.

SPEAKER_00 43:10

Oh, because I know, like, there's a song, somebody someone scratching beneath the surface. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_04 43:17

She's a famous singer too. I forgot who she is, but she's a phenomenal artist. But the jerry's on two tracks. I don't like the other track, so forgive me, the jiri, if you ever hear this, forgive me. The track that I like that she's on is one one one two. And I think I know it's Jizer, I think it's Keller Priest, and maybe Master Keller, I think. And then the Jerry's last. But at that time, she was the only female to ever record with the Jizer. And she's the only female you. See the cipher in 8 mil. The movie 8 manu. Right. She's the earth. She got her hand. She got her flag. She's uh she's what?

SPEAKER_00 44:11

Yeah, I can't do the nanoscope.

SPEAKER_04 44:13

Yes, the jibry.

SPEAKER_00 44:15

Like that was a long time ago. The Jimmy. What? All right, the Jimmy Earth.

SPEAKER_04 44:19

Yes, the Jimmy is yes, yes. And she has a resume. She's done a lot of things. Um, phenomenal earth. Um, and the earth, you know, and the earth. The way, the way you see her in 8 miles spent in her mom, she spent her her her uh 120. So, yes, the Jerry Earth, love her. Um, the guy Balau. Bilau was on, I think MCA, where MCA was a label. He was Mary J. Blige, AR.

SPEAKER_01 44:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 44:59

Um, and that's the guy. He taught my sister Sakhil out in Oakland. Um, so yeah, that's the god. Um Jiza. I met Jizer. That's the God, the true and living God. I've seen um the Rizza at a lot of parliaments. He actually in the 90s was feeding us. He was dealing with this earth, not intimate, just um on a business level. Qualicia. Qualicia was like the earth, earth, peace be upon her always. Um, so I think it was a thousand dollars a month he was giving her to feed so everybody in the nation could eat.

SPEAKER_00 45:47

Wow. Yes, that's some information I don't know. Yes, any of the other gods and earths. If you know that, hit us up, let us know. www.nyp.com, www.nypttalkshow.com, pardon me. W.nyptalkshow.com. You can reach us there.

SPEAKER_04 46:06

So, yeah, who else? Um I met um Lord Jamal. And that's a funny story because I was working the show improved, and I asked him for an autograph, and he acted like I was asking for five pounds of flesh. He was like, Oh, I said, never mind. Then I saw him in the club, and I'm looking like I'm in the club, and he took a picture, he had a lot of time for me. Took pictures with me. Um I got to sit and drink with him, and then I let him know. Do you know who I am? And he pours and I'm I'm the same earth that was in three-fourths that you couldn't get an autograph to, but here I am with my titties hanging out, and you're just really nice. So, yeah. Interesting, interesting, right? Interesting. Um Sadat X used to date my homegirl Jelanda. He didn't cultivate her, he didn't bring her to the knowledge, but she didn't cultivate him either. And she's super beautiful, she looks like um Megan Good. She's black and Hawaiian, okay, and she literally looks like Megan Good, and um, she didn't cultivate him, so good kudos, yes, yeah, Sadat. Yeah, Sadat, he didn't fall victim. Um, who else? I saw old Dirty when he was alive. That was a lot of energy. I didn't socialize with him because I was overwhelmed.

SPEAKER_02 48:04

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_04 48:06

Yeah, because he's a lot of energy, like a lot of energy. Um, super cool, super, just a lot, just a lot, and if you're not on that type of time, stay out his way, stay out his way.

SPEAKER_00 48:26

So, yeah, so like all the antics, like oh, all that. I mean, he's not oh, he's just happy. Yes, here we go.

SPEAKER_04 48:34

Yes, just just a whole beam of light on the side. Yes, yeah, yes, yes, yes, exactly that. So that's who he oh, dirty was definitely like that. Um, who's uh oh, here's a funny one. Um, I can't remember this god's name, but he actually had Wu Tang and Bus the Rhymes in his hands before they were Wu Tang and Busta Rhymes, and he dropped the ball on both of them.

SPEAKER_00 49:06

Damn. Yeah, I couldn't tell, but of course, you met uh uh um uh Papa Wu Freedom.

SPEAKER_04 49:12

So I I loved Freedom Allah when he came in with the fedora, the gators, right, the three-piece suit, the walk-in stick.

SPEAKER_00 49:25

That's the guy right there.

SPEAKER_04 49:28

Baby, I don't like Papa Whoop.

SPEAKER_00 49:31

You don't like Papa Whoop.

SPEAKER_04 49:33

Oh my god, I can't stand Papa Whoop.

SPEAKER_00 49:35

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_04 49:36

I saw the transition.

SPEAKER_00 49:38

Oh, the transition from freedom of law to Papa Whoop.

SPEAKER_04 49:42

I saw the whole thing. Okay, I love freedom of law, loved it. Great built. I I I I used to I used to go to the parliaments just so I could see him.

SPEAKER_00 49:57

Right, see him do.

SPEAKER_04 49:59

Because he was phenomenal. Hold on, I gotta go off screen for a minute. My nose.

SPEAKER_00 50:05

All right.

SPEAKER_04 50:06

Hold on with me.

SPEAKER_00 50:07

Again, www.nypttalkshow.com. Also, you can reach us at w uh you can reach us at uh ww.nyp at gmail.com. ww.nyp talkshow at gmail.com. Let me say that once again. www.nyptalkshow at gmail.com.

SPEAKER_04 50:34

Pardon. So yeah, so Papa Woo was different from freedom. I love freedom. I remember Freedom coming to the parliament, and I was present when he kicked the Muslim woman off from making salat.

SPEAKER_02 50:50

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_04 50:51

Uh-huh. I love that. I was like, yes, that's right. We don't allow nobody to come in here and practice what they do. You practice your stuff outside of the yeah. Yeah. This is our house. This is us.

SPEAKER_01 51:04

Right.

SPEAKER_04 51:04

I love that. I love that about him. Um, he used to interrupt people, Bill. So you be talking, he walk right up there and start talking like you don't matter.

SPEAKER_00 51:22

Loved it. Yeah. So you you like that kind of stuff, huh? I do. Sometimes it's necessary, though.

SPEAKER_04 51:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:29

Sometimes it's never that that's old that school is old is gone.

SPEAKER_04 51:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:33

That school is gone. Yeah. I mean, I mean, what made them guards like that? Would you would you say is the military? No. He's not military. I thought he went to the military.

SPEAKER_04 51:42

I don't know. But I know he was a transit worker.

SPEAKER_01 51:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 51:48

And so. And then they made him um their road manager.

SPEAKER_01 51:54

Right.

SPEAKER_04 51:55

And then he was telling people that he was their cousin. And people was running rampant with that. And then Rizza came out with a book called The Manual. I don't know if you ever read that. It's an excellent book.

SPEAKER_03 52:10

Really?

SPEAKER_04 52:11

Excellent book. Um and it really is the manual. Like you can apply, because he's really teaching you how to create a business. But he's giving you what he did. And you can make it applicable to what you were.

SPEAKER_03 52:30

Right.

SPEAKER_04 52:32

So in the manual, he talks about everybody in the beginning. And then he lets you know that Freedom was one of the old gods when they were younger that they used to look up to. So as soon as they got on, they went and got him. And they was like, yo, like it's really happening. Like jump on board.

SPEAKER_03 52:52

Right.

SPEAKER_04 52:53

And um that that was beautiful. Like I thought that was so beautiful. Um, but yeah, so that took out the whole cousin stuff, because it's right there in the book.

SPEAKER_03 53:06

Right.

Research Over Rumor In The Culture

SPEAKER_04 53:07

Um, so no, that's not your cousin. Um but yeah, you he was the road manager. Um, a lot of people thought he was their manager. Like, no, that's uh Riz's brother's job. He's the manager. Um, but okay. A lot of people, like I uh I'm gonna digress with this one thing and then I'll get back on track. A lot of people in this culture, so we're the only culture that I know of that says we do everything right and exact. Right? A lot of people in this culture do not, they don't do research, like they don't check facts. And that's one of the blessings of being firstborn prince, dude. Firstborn prince will tell you in a heartbeat, don't take what I say on face value. Don't I don't even want to hear you repeat in my bill. If I impressed you, if I had an effect on you, research and come back to me with an ad on. So, this culture, a lot of people don't do that. Like, they see the media talk about how Jizer from Wu Tang was at Harvard giving a lecture. They made him a goddamn professor. He deals with people in MIT, he gives lectures at MIT as well. They made him a goddamn scientist. He engages with Neil de Grasse. Neil Degrassi, yeah, saw that. Yeah, right? That's his man. Neil de Grassi is fascinated with him. His brain. You wanna know why? And this is what a lot of dummy motherfuckers don't understand. Jisa has a GED. He doesn't even have a high school diploma. He has a good enough diploma. But it is fascinating to see how his brain works when you're taught that a GED is a limited formal education. This is why they have him lecture at MIT and Harvard, because those students are studying him because they can't figure out somebody of his economic status, his educational background, understands um dark matter, right, quantum physics, how he's able to break down high sciences in a rap. In the simplest form, right? Right? So this is why he's doing these lectures. They're studying him. Hello, we saw Malcolm's do this. Hello, they have a whole class or beyond saying, hello, they study rap night. This is what they do in Ivy League schools, they study relative material now a day. They don't care what happened in 1964. See, a lot of five percenters care about what happened in 1970. Allah lived and died before I was even conceived. He was dead for three years before I come to the world. So talking about his time does what for me?

SPEAKER_02 56:51

Right.

Voting Basics And Real Power

SPEAKER_04 56:52

The only thing I can say is I am so appreciative and grateful that a man lived his life so that I can be great. Somebody he will never meet can be great. That is astonishing. That is a code of ethics and morale to live by. That's what that story does for me. It's not to be like, well, he was here and he was there. A lot of y'all motherfuckers don't even deal with politicians, a lot of y'all don't even know who your local congressman is. A lot of y'all don't vote. A lot of y'all don't even know how to elect a president. Because I'm gonna give this one away because it's coming up. The primaries are coming up. So if you want a president as to your satisfaction, there's two things you need to vote for. You need to vote for your state senator and you need to vote for your congressman. Why? Because the college of electoral voters and the state, no, I'm saying the vote. I'm Russian. The college of electoral voters are composed of two state senators, which is a hundred, right? 50 states, two times 50 is 100. And then there are congressmen, which is 400, I think it's 435 congressmen.

SPEAKER_01 58:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 58:27

So that's you have to have one more than half of the college electoral votes to become a president. So this is why you vote for your congressmen and you vote for your state senators. So that way you can have a president that is to your liking.

SPEAKER_00 58:48

That's a that's a Jew. That's a Jew. I hope y'all heard that. I hope y'all y'all paid attention to that right there. That was a Jew. That was peace. So now I want to go into famous gods you know, famous gods you know who are true and living gods.

SPEAKER_04 59:03

Um, so I told you the Jerry, the earth, right? Um, Allah Justice, the reza, um, dirty, um Sadat. I bet um it's what's uh uh Grand Pooba.

SPEAKER_00 59:22

Grand Pooba, okay. You say he's true and living.

SPEAKER_04 59:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 59:26

Grand Pooba. Um La Kim. La Kim.

SPEAKER_00 59:31

Oh, yeah, La Kim, yeah. Yes, peace of the God, Lakim. He was on the podcast early in the in the NYP talk show uh history. You got we gotta have you in and and now why coming from now justice or new Jerusalem, right here on the podcast. Peace of God La Kim.

SPEAKER_04 59:51

He's he's the true and living God. Um uh what's the other brothers from New Jersey? You were saying, I named myself after him. That's how impressed I was. That's how I got wise Asia. Um, I was like, I'm wise too. Like, like I like just his his knowledge was so resonating, right? Like his aura, his being, his it like he's not a big dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:22

Small, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:24

He's he's critique, he's he's compact, but it's a lot in there, right? There's a lot in there. Because I I I'm prejudiced. I'm I'm very prejudiced. If you're not a a a solid looking man, I'll be like, get the fuck out of my face. I hate, I hate, I'm gonna say it for the third time. I hate petite dudes. There's very small amount of petite men that I I love, honor, and respect. He is one of them. Okay, wise intelligence is what I was he's positive.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:02

Oh my god, radiant, yes, yeah, yes, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:06

Yes, I was like, Yeah, that's me. Wise Asian. He's wise intelligent. I'm wise Asian, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:13

So what made you put the wise?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:16

So I was told that um a law said your name, when outside coaches look at your name, they should automatically know your five percent. Okay, and your name should come from the math and alphabet, that's where you should get your name from. And I was like, Yeah, Y Z. Wiz like that's why's like yeah. I went through a long trial and error period with it. I was trying it with the W, Y Z. I was wilding out, and then it just one day the Y Z was there, and I was like, Yeah, that's how the alphabets end, right? Y Z. Right, extra. There we go. Said it all, right?

Power Rules Colorism And Accountability

SPEAKER_00 1:02:02

I like that. I like that. I like that. So we have two more questions before we cut out, right? These two questions, it's gonna be a lot. It's gonna be a lot of information for you to give. Now, power rules in the nation. Now, I I put it that way, you know, because you know, Puerto Ricans and the 5% nation are known as power rules, right? And um from my perspective, we all the same. We all we all original people. So I don't, but but at the same time, when we're in New York, though. So we see it like that in New York. So we got we got uh uh uh so-called black people, Dominicans, uh, Puerto Ricans, everybody. We all together in the same neighborhood.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:50

Now, in other states, they don't really they don't see it like that because they're all Mexican in other states.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:58

Well, there's there's Mexicans that well well, maybe it's I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:02

There's not too many Puerto Ricans like when you go down south. When I go down south, I'm a hot fucking commodity. You crazy? Yo, me? I I know I got a husband in the south waiting for me. I know my husband.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:22

Yo, he be cracking me up.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:24

Yo, I'm telling you there's no Puerto Ricans. Okay, Puerto Ricans are here, Dominicans are here, Cubans, Miami.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:34

Okay, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:03:35

Because you can swim to Cuba, Miami. Okay, right? But everywhere else in the world, it's Mexicans, and Mexicans think they're white, Mexicans think they're better than everybody because Puerto Ricans speak the worst Spanish of all. Like in the Caribbean, there's only three Spanish in the Caribbean. It's um Cuba, Dominican, and Puerto Rican. Okay, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:07

So um, what about Panamanians, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:12

They're not in the Caribbean. See, you and your cousin being. Yeah, you know what? I messed up. I messed up.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:17

My bad, my bad. You did tell me that. You did tell me that, you did tell me that. You did tell me we're gonna we're not cutting that, we're gonna keep that in there. You see, see, I know a lot, but I don't know everything. You know what I'm saying? That's your damn cousin.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:37

Yo, your cousins do the same shit, but I'm not Panamanian. Like, oh my god, they are not in the Caribbean. Right, right, right. Okay, but yeah, Panamanians know they're black. Panamanians embrace their culture. I love Panamanians, I love Panamanian food, I love Panamanian culture, I love Panamanian people. Um, salute, salute. They probably one of my favorite uh outside groups because I'm Caribbean, so I'm gonna naturally gravitate to Dominicans and Cubans because we share, we share the same food, we share the same music, you know, we're very much alike. However, Puerto Ricans speak the word Spanish. We say shit that does not exist. Example, pluma. There's no such word as pluma. Okay, polygryful, that's what it is. Iguagua. Now, guagua is a thing, you know. But there's no such word as guagua, it's orthobus. Um I forgot Chineto, the China cabinet. There's a name for that, but it's not Chineto. Puerto Ricans speak the worst Spanish of all the Latin cultures, Mexicans speak Castilian Spanish, what you learn in school. That's Castilian Spanish. I make fun of it all the time because they say shit like Vamos a casa. First of all, Vamos. Who the fuck says Vamos? Okay. Vamos a casa Lisa. Sino? That's yes. Sino? How the fuck is yes, no, yes? The fuck? And then I forgot what vale for them means. But vale is value. Right? Cuanto vale. Like, how much is that? They have another. I make fun of Castilian Spanish all the time. It's stupid. Los otros. Vosotros. Shut up. Like, y'all stupid. But they swear because they speak Castilian Spanish, which is European Spanish. Yeah. They're better than us. So, and even in the Mexican culture, because you have Mexicans that embrace their Indian heritage, which means they embrace their Africans because Indians are black, right? So they embrace that. And then you have others that embrace the European. I'm going to give you a perfect example of somebody famous, Linda Carter, Wonder Woman.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:26

She's Mexican.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:28

Wow.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:30

So she didn't embrace. There was an old time singer. I don't know if you are familiar with her, Linda Ron stand.

unknown 1:07:38

No.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:39

Yeah, she's a beautiful voice. She hid her Mexican heritage. She played white. Um, and then when it became cool in the 80s to have ethnicity, then all of a sudden she became Mexican. Like, you're a little chalupa, Lula, a little beaner, little guala guala, huh? Okay. But yeah, there's a lot of people that had um had their heritage.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:11

Now, now to go back to power rules in the nation.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:14

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:15

How is that was that experience?

SPEAKER_04 1:08:18

So, huh? The first earth is Puerto Rican.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:22

The first earth is Puerto Rican.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:29

Abu Shahid had a woman named Carmen, a brown-skinned Puerto Rican, and she's the first woman to acknowledge the black man is God.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:40

The first woman Earth ever is a is Bodicwa. Ho. Damn, I need some bells or something. Yo, that's crazy. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:58

But being light-skinned, so um this culture really resonated with really um deep complexion people. This was really the go-to because here in America, um being a knowledge seed, a knowledge saw you, you know, wisdom, so forth, you're really treated bad on your complexion. The deeper your complexion, the worse uh treatment you got.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:29

Wait, so the so the darker you are, the worse treatment you got.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:32

In America. In America.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:33

In America.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:34

So Oh, in America.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:35

Oh, okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:36

So this culture was really something for those abused like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:43

This is where you really got to be black and proud.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:46

Okay, just so just to clarify what she's saying is America, the worst of the worst treatment went to came to the darker complexed people, and the 5% nation was more for those people who were suffered and treated that way. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:06

So this is where you got to really be black and beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:09

Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:10

Now, what I love for me because Hello Got a tiny bit of military. So here I'm not given that privilege, that light-skinned privilege. Here, I have to fight and claw my way.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:34

Oh, you gotta fight and claw.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:36

All right, like don't fucking play with me. I'm not some pretty little light-skinned born with a silver spoon. No. Okay. My mother is I make brown babies. My daughter's a brown baby. You know, my grandchild is a brown baby. Okay, so I may be the understanding saw you, but knowledge and understanding is one and the same. Don't play. Don't play. I'm still original. That's how come when you touch my skin, there's still no mark. You know how when you touch white people, the mark stays on the that's how come I could be out in the sun and get bronze. You know, just when I leave the sun, the sun be like, I'ma take that back, baby. You can go, but this stays with me. Um, but yeah, see how I can have a sense of humor, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:30

Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:31

Um, so I've always had that because my mom is brown, my cousins are brown. I'm the I've been made fun of. Oh, here come the white girl. Me da la medicana. I know I say we either like the fuck up. Like, you know, my my cousins. Anything bad I did, they be like, yo, that's that light skin shit. But anything good I did, yeah. See, that's us and you, you know. So I already came in with a personality, right? So that shit didn't phase me. And there's a lot of people that may be deep in complexion and weak as fuck. Weak as fuck, weak as fuck, said it three times. Not every knowledge he does the knowledge. I see a knowledge, a lot of knowledge he's in the culture, do a lot of wisdom. Right, a lot of fuck. Like my being, ain't you a knowledge he? Ain't you supposed to be doing the knowledge? Right, you know, and then I have a particular sister, I'm not gonna say her name, but she be wearing head wraps to here, skirts to here, knowledge soil. Pleasant. If that ain't the most lioness, conniving, cheating is um, she definitely tried to cause confusion in in my home.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:05

Um took your cousin for a ride, too. Used your cousin to get in the doors with someone else.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:17

So you're giving examples of people being a knowledge seed, but doing the wisdom before the knowledge, and being weak, and being weak and wicked.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:24

Being weak. You would think somebody that's deep in complexion would be deep in their ways and actions. And that's not always right. That's not always the case. And you see them here, you know. They they've had this knowledge, they claim, you know, oh, I've been here, you know, whatever. I'm not a judgy person, right? Like, I don't care if a woman had sex with 120 men to get 120 lessons. You got 120 lessons, sis. Right, you can move on in life now, right? You know, I don't care about that. I care about the work. Are you out here putting in this work? Are you your sister's keeper? Are you a mother to all? You know, can I come to you and speak to you in confidence without my words getting repeated? Can you be there for me when I need? Can you be that shoulder? Your cousin, your cousin and I have history that I've never heard repeated. Ever. I've never heard in another circle any form of any of it. I know that's my sister. You know what I mean? Do her and I treat each other well? Of course not. We abuse the ones we love the most. We I treat her bad, she treats me bad, she treats me great, I treat her great. There are many great, great memories that I have with her, and there's also some room for improvement. And I'm sure she has the same to say about me. I'm sure she's like that goddamn wise angel boy. If that bitch come here one more goddamn time, she got one more goddamn, I'm sure of it. Because why we don't appreciate those that we have easy access to. It's just right.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:24

That's a fact. That's a fact cubulation. Now, now, how were how was your um experience as being a power rule? Now, now it seemed like you're a strong woman, right? So you can hold your square down, no problem. Now, other other Puerto Ricans or power in the nation. No, not so lucky, not so lucky. So what will it be like?

SPEAKER_04 1:15:49

I mean I mean, you have to have knowledge of yourself, right? So whatever I am, right? Let's say I was Cuban or Dominican, right? I'm I'm still original.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:06

Right, right. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:09

My blood is tainted just like your blood is tainted. You might be a Nodic seed, but there's a white man in there somewhere. You're here in America, yeah, there's a white man in you somewhere. Somebody got beat up, somebody got raped, somebody got lynched. We all have suffered up by the hands of the European man, all of us. There's no escaping that, right? So if you know your history and you know who you are, separating me from you is devil.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:48

Actual fact.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:49

Why would you separate me from you because of what I look like? I can't help what I look like. Now, your thoughts are for you to clean up. That's for you to clean yourself up. I can't help you with your journey. That's your journey.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:10

Indeed, indeed, indeed. So, so people in the nation, you would say, like seeing, like as you observed the knowledge and looked at other Puerto Ricans in the nation. For me, I never really saw any difference with Puerto Rico. Like, I just I say one thing that I noticed, right? And I guess this is what happens naturally, right? Sometimes you see when you go to parliaments as I was coming up, as as it started getting more into the 2000s, you started seeing like Puerto Ricans over here with themselves, among themselves in a cipher, right? Now, I don't know. They could have been coming from another state or something like that, and they kind of clicked up because they just coming from another state. I don't know. But from from how I came up, we looked at the Puerto Ricans as the same. Yes. Because we all original people and we all hold the name God Allah, you know what I'm saying? Or Earth. You know what I'm saying? So we didn't coming up, we didn't really look at it like that. So I don't, I've never seen anyone treated any differently because they're Puerto Rican in the nation.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:15

I've heard, like, I'ma say this for me, for myself. Um, I love the fact that I don't get treated in this culture like I get treated outside this culture. I love that. I definitely love that. Um, that's one. And we're judgy people. Five percenters, five percenters are some, let's let's just get the elephant out the room. Five percenters are some judgy mother others. Judgy, judgy, judgy, judgy. And they won't admit that. A lot of elephants won't admit that, but five percenters are very judgy, and um firstborn prince had a thing about light-skinned people. Okay, because he felt, because he was light-skinned, he had to be extra. Because uh, and I think it really started with his name. Do you know his honorable name?

SPEAKER_00 1:19:24

Now Cypher, Leslie. Leslie, okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:30

So it started with Leslie. He had to change his name, so he was Butch, right? Because Butch is real, yeah. That's a name right there. So, um, you know, so I think it started first with his name, it was psychological, and then he made it physical, you know, with the complexion. But firstborn prince could not stand a light-skinned motherfucker that couldn't hold his own. If you was light-skinned or soft, you made him sick to his stomach, and I see that too. Like, light-skinned chicks be trying to come around me and shit.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:10

No, so you have your own colorism going on.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:14

Yeah, no, bitch.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:15

Uh see, we got you.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:17

Go go over there. You gotta get your shit the way I got my life. First of all, I'm a teacher of teachers. I'm not a 101, I'm not your introduction. I'm not here, I'm not there no more. I did my time.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:36

Okay, I see what you're saying.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:37

I'm a teacher of teachers. So your little light-skinned furry self, no. Uh fly or die, baby. Swim or sink. I'm not you, I'm not taking nobody under the way. I'm 53 years old. Think I got time to see. First of all, the on the devil's calendar, I only got like 20 more years to live. Okay, on the devil's calendar. I'm not spending my last 20 years making sure you straight. Fuck out of here. No, I'm not doing that. Not doing that. Sorry. Sorry, I'm not sorry. I'm not doing that. That's not, I'm a teacher of teachers, I'm on an advanced level. If you're not at a level to understand my teachings, you can't take this class. It's like in college. You know, you got your 101s, your 20s. Yeah, yeah. I'm a three going into a four. You know what I mean? Uh, this is where I'm at in life. You should have met me when I was younger.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:50

Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:52

We would have had a blast. But no.

Fat Joe Claims And Culture Receipts

SPEAKER_00 1:21:55

Right, right. Now, now the the last question I want to go into, uh, we want to I gonna I want to talk about before we cut out, is Fat Joe. Okay, fat Joe, boogie down Bronx. Fat Joe just said some crazy shit on Jada. He has a podcast. Did you see it? No, you gotta see it, man. He he's he was on a podcast with Jada Kiss, and he said he's from a place called Godsville, a place called Godsville, where all the gods were. It was highly populated with the 5% nation, and he was uh crack, what'd he say? Crack him, crack him, God, great God, crack him, great God Allah. What you think about that, Earth? Ain't no way in hell. Okay, you could come in the name as crack him.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:01

I mean, all right, let's go through this. Where he's from and what it was like is an actual fact.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:12

I met Fat Joe in in in the early 90s, late 80s. Um utmost respect for the gods of Earth. Utmost respect. Now let's also look at facts. Let's just stay on facts.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:29

Right, facts.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:32

Are there any fat Joe lyrics where he says he's the god?

SPEAKER_00 1:23:36

Um, I think he makes references to the five percent nation every now and again, but he doesn't necessarily say he's the god.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:47

Thank you. So let's let's stick to facts. Are there any references or any Rakham song where he says he's the god? Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:58

Yes, right.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:59

Are there any references in Brand Nubian where they say they the god?

SPEAKER_02 1:24:03

Oh, yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:04

Are there any references with Wu Tang? Of course, Bus the Rhymes, of course. Lakim Shabazz. Of course. Okay, so let's go back to Fat Joe. Are there any references? So again, these is facts, right? And fat Joe has a catalog, right? He's in a time period of hip-hop of the golden era, for sure, right? Right, fat Joe's name got weight to it.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:32

Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:33

That's not no, like, let's not belittle the brother.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:37

Nah, we can't do that. We're not he's a legend for sure. Yes, for sure.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:41

Yes, light-skinned dude with light eyes, right? Right? Bor equa. Right. All right. So let's that's that's family, right? Okay, that's my family. So we're along the line, he's my cousin. Right. Right. That's my cousin. We're not gonna disrespect my man.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:59

Right, right. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:01

I think he's just a little old right now.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:04

He's a little old, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:06

And you know, midlife crisis.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:09

Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:11

I've never ever, ever, ever have a memory of thinking fat Joe was part of the culture. I've never seen him. I've had knowledge since 1987. What's that? 37 years, 38 years?

SPEAKER_00 1:25:33

Right, right. So that's a little that's a long time.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:39

Okay? The the culture ain't but that old.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:42

Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:43

All right, I too come into the culture in the golden era.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:48

Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:49

I don't have a recollection of Fat Joe at any parliament.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:53

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:54

And he's so improved. And he's Remy Ma's part of his team.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:00

Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:01

Remy married to Papoose.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:03

Papoose, right.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:04

Papoose is the guy, I forgot to say, I meant Papoose.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:07

I don't know about Papoose, though, because Papoose, I hear him talking about praying to God. Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:16

Stop playing.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:17

Yeah, I heard it on the interview or something like that. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:20

Pap, you breaking my heart.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:22

So I don't know. I don't know. You know, I don't know. That's what I'm saying. Like, it's kind of weird now with the with the rappers now with that come in the name.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:31

Because you see him on the interview saying But he's he's a old pap is an old god. Pap is pap is not old. Pap is Pap's had the knowledge almost as long as me. Papoose? Papoose. I I might have 10 years more than him.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:49

Oh, 10 years more than him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, me, me and Pap is around the same age.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:53

Yeah, I got I got like 10 years. I'm like 10 years his senior. Pap got this knowledge young. Really, though?

SPEAKER_00 1:27:01

Yeah. Okay, because I know he was rocking with K Slate, and K Slate is was 5%. You know what I'm saying? So I don't know. I don't I don't know. But I just like it's like with the rappers, pay attention to the interviews. When you listen to the interviews, you be thinking that you be thinking that you be thinking that they 5%, and then they talking about, damn, you know, you know, the God Heavenly Father type. So I don't I don't know. The rappers, I don't understand. But so so just like you said, back to the actual facts, Fat Joe, you never saw him at a parliament.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:35

You've never seen Fat Joe at a parliament.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:37

And why has Asia been around?

SPEAKER_04 1:27:38

And I've been I've been in this culture since 1987, and um I've never heard, and I I I hang out with his cousin Tanetta, who uh her legacy comes from the temple with law, and I I'm with Tarneta on a regular, I've never heard. Heard Tanetta and Taneta talk to me about every goddamn thing. She would not miss that.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:05

Right, for sure. Yeah, not she wouldn't miss that.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:07

Because Taneta and I share like small children. Right. We're like small children on Halloween with candy. You know, that's how we share our knowledge. So I've never heard of Fat Joe uh being a I've never heard of him at anything.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:24

Right. So like, but just if you look at what he said first, I think he was just using that as like some kind of clickbait or whatever. I think he was using that as a clickbait. Because there's no, there's no way, even if you weren't in the culture, you know damn well no five percenters were ever called crack him or you know what I'm saying, or heroin or dope kim or dope.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:51

I I'ma make you laugh. I'ma make you laugh with this one Roxanne Shantae.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:58

Roxanne Shantae. So I think there's two Roxanne. No, there's there's two Roxanne.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:02

There's three Roxanne Shantaes.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:03

There's a Bodhisattva, uh-huh, you got and and a and a and a sister, black sister.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:08

So Roxanne Shantae from Queensbridge. Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:11

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:12

Right? Because there's the real Roxanne and Roxanne Shantae.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:16

Roxanne Shantae. At the 50th anniversary at the Apollo, grabs the mic. She was there, she was in attendance.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:27

Oh, I don't remember that part.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:29

Yeah. Okay. She got up there, she said, see a lot to her, said that she was the earth. I'm like, I was so confused because I follow her on Facebook because she's a female to follow, right? Um, so I admire her as a woman, but that this is the second time I see her lying. And she's saying that she was the earth. How you the earth and you was just eating shrimp at your event. You had whole trays of shrimp.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:14

But that first time Roxanne Chante lied, what was that lie about? Because I think I remember.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:19

So she said that she had um some type of degree.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:26

Right, right, right, right.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:27

And this she was exposed.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:30

Yeah, so she said something like, I think it went like she took her money from her some kind of money she made, something with the industry, I think.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:42

Yes, they paid her, her label paid her.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:44

Right, and then she took that and it went to school with that, and that's that was a lie.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:48

And so this Caucasian man, oh, you like how I switched that up, right? Well, he's not a white man, right? So this Caucasian man um this reporter exposed her. So then she turned it into a hate thing. Oh, this is a white man trying to bring down a black, and we go for that. We jump on that bandwagon because this has happened, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:31:15

Indeed.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:16

Oh, did that put the battery in his bag? He went and got evidence. You're not listed anywhere, sis. Right. Because there's recordings. So if you know my honorable name and you know the school I went to, you can find out what degree I have.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:34

Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:35

And I graduated with honors, you can see that. Like, let's toot my old whore. Because I graduated congratulations, congratulations, thank you. I graduated Magna, so um, and I have a bachelor's of science, right? So the devil has qualified me to be a scientist. Uh in the devil's world, I'm qualified to be a scientist. Ain't that about nothing? And here in my culture, a second class citizen. Wow, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:32:03

Nah, nah, I don't see it like that, though. I don't see it like that, though.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:08

Look at the rhyme, secondary, most necessary. That got to be the dumbest shit ever.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:14

Uh uh. Uh oh.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:16

Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:19

Uh oh.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:20

Like you don't even understand the fundamentals of a sentence structure and phrasing. Because anything that is secondary cannot and will not be primary. That's why it is secondary, moron. But it sounds like it's easy. Secondary most necessary, like a little rap sole. Secondary most necessary. You're second. Most necessary make you feel good. Shut the fuck up with the moronic shit. Secondary is secondary, it is second, it is not primary. Primary is first. Like, learn your order.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:05

Now, now now to take it back to crack him. So we so we already know off the table he was never crackem a law. That would the great God of law. That makes no sense. Fat Joe, you're bugging. Click, click bait, fat Joe. I get it. I get it, Fat Joe. So now they call you the Cap King now. So now you're gonna put more cap on top of it. So now that's a gimmick. I see where you're going with that crack Kimala Law. Uh, you know, I love it. I see what you're doing. I see the gimmick. I see the play. I respect it. I respect it. But no, there will never be anybody in the 5% nation called crack Kimberlaw that doesn't make any sense. Try again. Try again. All right.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:52

He's gonna say crack because he was cracked because he was.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:56

Well, but but he said, he said how he got the name crack from fighting. No, no, no. It's from he used to be, he was a kid, he always wore his pants down a little bit. Like it was just natural it happened like that because he was heavy set. Yes, he was. And you would see the crack of his butt. So they would call him crack because of that.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:14

Oh, yeah.

Wrap Up Merch And How To Join

SPEAKER_00 1:34:15

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SPEAKER_04 1:36:17

I'ma go to you.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:18

I'm gonna go to you.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:20

Ah okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:26

And we out. Peace.