How Jewish Fables & Christian Thinking Corrupted Islam

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Yes, it's Ahmed or Ahmed.

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Ahmed, Ahmed.

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El Shabbaz.

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El Shabbaz. Correct. Thank you, brother.

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Welcome aboard, man. How are you doing? Thank you very much. I'm very well. Thank you. All praises through to Allah. How are you, brother?

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Thank you. Thank you. It's a blessing to be on. And uh giving honor to Allah who came to us in the person of Master Farab Muhammad, to whom he praised forever.

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Thanks to the great Madid for coming to us. Yes. And raising up the nation of Islam, giving us a leader, a teacher, and a guide. Most honorable Elijah Muhammad. That's peace. Peace and blessings of Allah be upon him.

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Yeah, that's peace. I see. And I I give honor and respect to the NOR because their program has been very instrumental in raising the black man from the grave that he's inventory.

The Quran’s Case Against Hadith

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Indeed. Upright citizens. You know, peace, peace to the NOR for that. Yes, sir. So let's get into it, brother. It's how Jewish fables and Christian thinking corrupted Islam. Can you break that down for us? Yes, sir. Um potatoes of the show. Yes, sir. Pardon me. Let's get into it a little bit before we get into the meat and potatoes of the show.

SPEAKER_00 2:26

Yes, sir. Well, uh, and it's a it's an Islamic term called the Israeli.

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Okay.

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All right. And uh I'll get to that term and the definition of that term in a few. It's basically the Israeli is uh the Christian and Jewish interpretations of the scripture. Okay, that's Israeli. Okay, and uh so we can get into that as we go along. Uh I'll explain.

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Okay.

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I first like to start out with a quote from the honorable Elijah Muhammad. Quote, study the Holy Quran, it is full of wisdom. That's from the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. That's page 218 of our Savior has arrived, and that is the very last sentence of the last book that the most honorable Elijah Muhammad published. That's the last sentence in that book. Study the Holy Quran, it is full of wisdom. He didn't tell us to study anything else, did he? In that last statement. Very important. Every word he said had a meaning to it. Okay, for us to study, study it. Okay, and you find today, especially with uh so-called orthodox Islam or Sunni Islam, traditional Islam, they know more about a hadith or hadiths than they do know the Quran. Gotcha, which is why they didn't recognize who the honorable Elijah Muhammad was when he was on the scene. Okay, they didn't study the Quran, they put the hadiths above the Quran. So we're gonna get into how that corrupted uh the Muslim world. I got you.

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Just for the sake of the listeners and viewers, what is that before we go on? Just to get an understanding.

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Hadiths? Yeah, what are they? Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna get into it. A hadith is basically a um a re a report. Okay, an account. Okay. So I'm old school. I had to write my now I respect that presentation out. Okay, I'm in my 60s, so you have to pair me.

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Right, you don't look like this. No, brother, listen, that has nothing to do with it, but you don't look like eating 60s, man. Yes, sir.

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I am uh mid-60s. Okay, beautiful, yes, sir. Praise be to Allah. So the Holy Quran is a complete book, and it warns the Muslims not to follow any hadith outside of him. A hadith is a report or an account, and the fact that the Holy Quran itself warns against following hadiths outside of itself speaks volumes. Okay, so the Holy Quran states these are the verses of Allah which are which we recite to you in truth. Then what hadith after Allah and his verses will they believe? Okay, so the Holy Quran is condemning Hadith. Okay, hadith is basically hearsay, and we'll see you. I'm gonna prove my point as I go along. So that's from the Holy Quran 45 and 6. Yes, sir. Yeah, here's another quote from the Quran. Then, and what hadith after this will they believe? That's Holy Quran 7, 185th verse. Okay, Allah states again in the Holy Quran. Allah has sent down the best hadith, a book. Okay, so Allah is saying in the Quran, Holy Quran 3923, the best hadith is the book we're reading, the holy Quran. Yeah, okay. Uh, so the Holy Quran declares itself complete and fully detailed. Holy Quran states, Shall I seek a judge other than Allah? While it is He who sent down to you the book explained in detail. Holy Quran 6, 114. Okay, see the honorable Elijah Muhammad or uh or Master Farab Muhammad was bringing a new Islam. Okay. Yeah. All right. And so as we go along this evening, you'll see why it was a need for a new Islam.

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It was corrupted.

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It was corrupted. I have a focus. Go ahead. I'm sorry.

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No, I see where you're taking it, because um, you know, there's always that debate that, you know, between Orthodox Islam and those of the nation saying that, you know, a nation is not orthodox Islam, but I always say that was the Islam that was catered, I should say tailored more to the condition of the black man. Right. And that but that statement that he said, what came to my mind is that as I'm listening to what you're saying is that they always um refer the Quran as one of the most sacred books because it has never been revised. Right. Nothing has ever been changed or anything or anything like that. But go on, go on, go on.

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Yes, sir. Yes, sir. For past 1400 years. Yeah. People memorized the Holy Quran. You have people that memorized the book. Okay. Uh we had a brother that was enslaved. I forget the gentleman's name. He was enslaved and brought here as a slave. He was a Muslim. I think I've heard of that one before. And he wrote his own Quran for memory. Okay. So, but these hadiths are thousands. They're like 700,000 hadiths. And most of them are just hearsay, fantasy. A lot of it is what I'm gonna get into the Israeli. You might as well just read the old testament. Okay, yes, definitely. Okay, so it the Holy Quran states again, and we have sent down to you the book as clarification for all things. Okay, so that should be sufficient. Uh, I notice here in modern times, the majority of the people that convert to Islam they convert after they read the Quran. That's the book that converts them. It wasn't the Hadith, they don't know nothing about a Hadith. But you can go to any bookstore today and get you a Quran and read it, and apply your own intellect and reasoning, and you can get it. It becomes clear, okay. But that's up to Allah to open up that person's heart or chest to so they can receive his message. There's some people out here, you can stand an angel literally in front of them, and they still have something to say in disbelief about. Right. And now I go on to state now, ask yourself if the holy Quran itself states that it is a complete and fully sufficient, then why do Muslims need hadiths at all? Since these hadiths

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are hearsay, and they were compiled 200 years after the death of Prophet Muhammad ibn Abdu, the peace be upon him. Okay, now we're getting into something now, right? Yes, yes, sir. See, I have just a brief quote from the honorable Elijah Muhammad that I mentioned the book I Save You Has Arrived. Okay, page 133. He stated, the Arabs, and I'm quoting, the Arabs think think that it is something grave to talk about a new Islam. Why, certainly, brother, what have you been going through for the past 6,000 years under the rule of the devil? Now, to reject the righteous one who not only brings about a new mind and a new idea and a new life and an and a new change, as the Holy Quran teaches you and me today, is fatal. You see what's happening to them over there?

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Yeah, a lot of fatalism. Um, you know, the the promise of exclamation conversion to yeah, I see a lot of fatal. It sounds very similar to what we were taught here in the Western world, but under Christianity, a lot of fatalism.

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That's that's right. That's right. Right, right. And so he went on to state here, he said the Orthodox Arab teachers believe that what Muhammad gave them was sufficient forever. Certainly, it is the truth forever, but it does not mean that it would that that we should be looking for Muhammad's Holy Quran to just take wings and become a man and come down to us, whom the Holy Quran would not prophesy that it would be a new nation. See, in the Holy Quran, it prophesies of a new nation rising. Okay, okay, Master Farab Muhammad came here to raise up a new nation, a new Islam, using us as the people who will bring about this new Islam. This is our resurrection. Okay, that's good. So this is the original man's resurrection. Okay, and for anyone to reject the prophet or a messenger of Allah, you're gonna meet the fate of the people that rejected a prophet or a messenger in the past. Okay, the Arabs rejected the honorable Elijah Maha as the last messenger. Now, all the warnings that he gave them in the 70s, he warned them about what's going on right now, he warned them about Satan's final strike. He stole he told them in the 70s, he said that the uh they will pretend to go against their masters, the Jews. Okay, all right, all right. They pretended to do that, didn't they? All right, he's he he also stated to the Arabs that they uh those leaders over there, they were quick to to subordinate their faith, their religion, to rule with impunity. The GCC, the Gulf nations over there, they were propped up by the Western powers, Saudi Arabia, Dubai, all of that. Okay, they were propped up, and those army bases that's been over there for years, they weren't there to protect the country, they were there to protect those leaders and their business interests. If anything happened to those countries over there, which is happening now, the population of those people gonna be rejoicing, they're gonna be clapping. Okay, all right, because they're not they're just Muslims by faith, they're not Muslims by nature, so it's very easy for them to sub for them to subordinate their the religion of Islam for power. The Saudi royal family, for example, they were put in by the British in the 1920s. Okay, and look at the nerve of that family to name the whole peninsula of Arabia after their family. Yeah, you got me?

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Gotcha. All right. I want to ask a question though, like you you said that you know, um WD Farad brought Islam into you know for the US to upbring a new nation, right? And this is this is a I don't want to say rhetorical, but this is a question out of curiosity. Which sect of Islam did he bring with him? Was it um Sunni or Shiite?

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It wasn't Sunni or Shia. Okay, see, he was bringing the supreme wisdom. Okay, he was fulfilling prophecy.

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Gotcha.

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All right, we we would see the people for the past 2,000 years, they were looking for the coming of God, right? Yeah, now we're in the presence of God, Allah. See, Master Farab Muhammad is the Holy Quran in person in the flesh, gotcha, right? You have a man measuring the diameter and circumference of a universe, you have a man weighing

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atoms, right? He gave us the total figure of atoms. He even asked the question in the problem book: how many atoms are over America? This is a polymath we're dealing with. This is a person that is proficient in many disciplines. Gotcha. That's why he was called Allah in the person. This is the manifestation of God in person. He didn't come here to tell us that he God, he came to tell us what that the black man is God, God, yeah. All right, gotcha. He came to teach us that Allah is in man, and man is in Allah, right? Yeah, definitely. Even the Rosicrucians knew that back 100 years ago. Yeah, what's their definition of God? God is uh uh man is God and son of God, and there's no God but man. I am what I am, yeah. I am what I am, that's right. See, we are the microcosm looking up at the macrocosm, aware of its own self, right?

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Hold up, these are the kids, you're dropping some bombs right here, man. You know, that's a fact. Go ahead, continue, go ahead.

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Yes, all right. So these had back to the hadith, they were compiled 200 years after the prophet Muhammad. So the first 100 fifty to 200 years, the Muslims were practicing Islam, their faith without any hadiths. The prophet Muhammad forbade the writing of hadiths during his lifetime out of fear that the hadiths would be read more and followed more than the holy Quran itself. Okay, that ended up happening. Okay, yeah, you see. So in the early years of Islam, they relied, the Muslims relied on the Holy Quran and reason. The Holy Quran and reason was used. Then later, the scholars consolidated their authority, and these scholars made or elevated the hadiths, sayings, and actions of the Prophet Muhammad, may peace be upon him, to the same level as the Holy Quran, and in some cases above the Holy Quran. Now, these same so-called Orthodox Muslims will condemn the Jews for writing the Talmud. All right, okay, and putting or placing the Talmud above the Torah. Allah gave them the Torah, he gave Musa the Torah to give to the white man. And as the Holy Quran states in chapter 2, 101, those per people took that same book that Allah uh gave them and threw it over their backs as if they knew nothing. Well, the Arabs are just as guilty. Okay, I know that's controversial to say, but it's the truth.

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But no, brother, it's your time, man.

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You know, so so even today, uh, modern converts to Islam, many of them are converting to Islam because of the Holy Quran. They're Quranists, they're being labeled. But what's wrong with that? They just want to follow the word of Allah. There's something wrong with that, yeah. Going straight to the course, but they're being condemned by the Sunnis, many of them, and some of them have to hide the fact that they are Quran-only Muslims, they'll be be offracized, ostracized about it, they'd be kicked out of the community.

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Oh my god.

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It's much like in the nation of Islam today, a lot of controversy. If Master Farad Muhammad gave us the supreme wisdom, then that should be enough, shouldn't it? There's nothing higher than supreme. Yeah, it's the fact that do they believe it is supreme wisdom or not? I know it is, but that's me. And many Muslims know that's the supreme wisdom. They've done the research to for themselves.

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Is it considered an additive? Like an add-on, supreme wisdom with the Quran. Is it considered an add-on?

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If you study the Quran, you see that Master Farab Muhammad's teachings is right out of that book. Gotcha. Like I said, he's the holy, he was the Holy Quran in the flesh. That's that's a deep title. It is holy Quran in person. All the wisdom that was in that is in him, and the messenger proved it, the messenger of Allah, the honorable life Muhammad, proved it. Look what he did during his time. True indeed. If Allah wasn't backing him up, he wouldn't have been able to do any of what he did. Nothing. He's proof that he was taught by the great Maddi or Allah in person. The messenger. And what in his works and the Muslims that followed him. Yeah. So the uh Holy Quran uh centered faith became a strict hadith, it morphed into a strict hadith orthodoxy, quote unquote, where very minor deviations could exclude a person from Islam altogether. And that is not Islam. When you study the Holy Quran, you'll see it's broad. It is very broad. All right. Allah even explains how to read the Quran. The first book I ever opened up in the it the book explains how to read itself. Tells the reader how to interpret it. Gosh.

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And how's that?

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Well, it was um, it would point out well, some it was stated in there, some of the verses in the Quran are metaphor, allegory, not to be taken literally. Okay, and some and many of the verses are to be taken literally. And he explains as they go along. What Prophet Muhammad did, uh he taught the Muslims how to use the Quran, which is why, from the time of his passing in June of 632 AD to 200 years after his passing, that's the golden age of Islam. And that was brought about with the Quran, not the hadiths. That's a fact of history. Yes, sir.

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I respect that. So I have I have one question before we go further. Yes, sir. Um, I noticed that um within the um next to the Islam temples, and I know it's done for the sake of uh for the sake of the fact that our people were enslaved with the Bible, Christianity. So there's many of the should I say spokesmen, ministers will preach from the Bible and they will reference the Quran or vice versa. Yes. I don't want to are they pointing out the similarities in the words to point the message out to show that the purity of the message, the potency, or they are using one in the other.

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Well, it depends on what they're talking about. Okay. Um gotcha. The Bible was the only book our people knew. Okay. Knew of. Because they didn't know, they didn't really understand that either. Yeah, they didn't understand the Bible, they only went by what was told to them.

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Exactly.

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Okay, so if you read uh message to the black man here, all right, the honorable Elijah Muhammad is very thorough. He has a part in the book, excuse me, in the back of the book, he has a guide to understanding the Bible. All right, he has a list of verses for us to read and study over so we can understand the Bible. Okay, then he also has a guide to understanding the holy Quran, yeah. All right, we have to see ourselves in this book. Who are we in these books? Exactly. And again, just like Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, the honorable Elijah Muhammad, peace be upon him,

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taught his followers how to use the Bible and Quran. What applies to you, Master Farad Muhammad stated that only two-thirds of the Holy Quran applies to us, our condition. Yeah, black people. The other one third, he said, is for the other fellow. Gotcha. Okay, for the other fellow. So the so-called Orthodox Islam of today is a product of centuries of scholarly consolidation and a revision of history. That's what happened. Okay, so we're getting into the term Israeliot. Gotcha. The term Israeliot refers to narratives, stories, traditions originating from Jewish or Christian sources, the people of the book or Banu Israel. Okay, that have entered Islamic literature, particularly in tafsirs, where the tafsir is the Quranic commentary. All right, and hadiths and historical writings. For example, Al Pabari's History of the Prophets and the Kings. It is not entirely authentic, though highly respected. And get this seven out of the ten volumes are Israeli. So you got ten volumes, and seven of the ten is Jewish and Christian folklore.

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Philosophies and everything else that came like do translation, agree with everything else. Right.

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Stories, stories, tradition, okay, and narratives. Okay, that's doesn't mean it's the truth. Okay, so so seven of the ten volumes are uh uh we would be labeled as Israeli. So you might as well read the old testament because it's nearly word for word, right? And there was a prayer that Prophet Abraham prayed about his seed. We're the seed of Abraham, black man, and okay, black man in America, seed of Abraham. We fit the description of being in a strange land amongst strange people for 400 years. Well, Abraham in the Holy Quran prayed that someone would come along and teach us the book, the Bible, and the wisdom, which is the Holy Quran. His prayers were answered. Okay, so the Holy Quran states in 1736, and do not follow or pursue that which you have no knowledge, indeed, hearing, the sight, and the heart of all these will be asked. So, in other words, Allah gave us, told us to verify all information that comes before us, to verify. This is a this is in the Quran, verify, he's telling us to verify all information that comes before us because he gave us eyes, ears, and a brain, and it's up to us to use it. Exactly. Okay, that's what it is, that's what he's talking about. So following something or someone blindly is forbidden in Islam, of course, according to this verse. But look at the world today, people are blind followers. Right? Yep, right. So, what I just said, oh, was is uh is awful to many people's ears. You don't have to follow the ID, you follow the Quran, that's the best ID. The book says it itself. So, what's wrong with that? Okay, so Donner Belijah Muhammad, may peace be upon him, taught us there's truth in the Bible, okay, but there's also lies in the Bible, it's been tampered with, of course, right. Master Farad Muhammad even went so far to state that there are 200,000 lies in the Bible, so if it's it can't be holy, if it's 200,000 lies in a book, it can't be holy.

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It can be holy in a sense of having a lot of holes within the story.

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But the Holy Quran it states in this book there is no doubt. So we talk, we're talking about the difference between belief and actual facts, the difference between belief and know, knowing. Okay, that's what we're dealing with here. So uh back in 2006, I just want to bring this up. By 2006, the Church of England came out and stated that the Bible should not be taken literally, that it was not historically accurate, nor scientifically accurate. Isn't that something? Exactly. And at the same time, they apologized for using the Bible to enslave and colonize people. Of course.

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But you know, what's so crazy is that, you know, I grew up in a family, like came from the islands, and you know, they had a Catholic background. Yes, sir. And you know, when they come here and people from the community, they they um they refer and adhere to that Bible. You know, they use it to their interpretations, as you say, they find themselves in there. But when you question them and say, you know, I won't question a particular verse whatsoever, they will fight you too for now. Does the same thing take place within you know those who adhere to the principle of the Quran?

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Yes, yes, all right now you got the same thing because as I stated before, they're not studying the holy Quran, yeah, they're studying Hadiths, and they're trying to see if the Hadith, what they'll do, they'll see. Well, if the Quran condemns what is written in the Hadith, they'll go with the Hadith. They're trying to use the they're trying to measure up the Holy Quran to a hadith, it should be the other way around. Does the hadith measure up to what's stated in the Holy Quran? And in many cases, it does. Are they recorded um debates among scholars? Basically on scholars. A lot of these scholars back then were on the payroll. Okay, a lot of them was political appointees and a way for them to make a living for themselves. See, being a scholar became a um a cottage industry, if we would call it today. Okay, okay. Uh, you have call uh kings or caliphs or rulers hiring scholars to write hadith just to suit their political interests. They'll take a verse from the Holy Quran say, obey those in authority over you, and they ran with it. Gotcha. You know, you could be a corrupt leader, they still wanted the people to obey that leader. Gotcha. No matter how corrupt he was.

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Were they resistance against those, like those scholars that went against excessive Israeli principles and teachings?

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Yes, they were. Some of them were killed for being a Quran-on.

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Gotcha.

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Okay, yeah. So we have uh I have a statement from the Bible warning against Jewish folklore. All right, I'm gonna read from Titus. This is the New Testament, Titus chapter one, verse 12 through 14. It states the Cretans or the Greeks, people from Crete, Greek, the Isle of Crete, are always liars, evil beasts, slow bellies. This witness is true, wherefore rebuke them sharply, not giving heed to Jewish fables and commandments of men that turn from the truth. Right? This is a warning against Jewish fables right here in the Bible. Of course, this is Paul writing, and Paul is very problematic for people who know. Paul, Paul is the guy that invented Christianity, you might as well say. Then one day on his according to the story, one day on his road to Damascus, yeah, he looked up in the sky and saw Jesus, right? So he said, with nobody around but him. Okay, you got what I'm going? Yeah, it wasn't hallucinating. He said he saw Jesus. Jesus was dead, okay. But he saw Jesus, fell to his knees, changed his name from Saul to Paul. Okay, got it. And so he invented the religion of Christianity, which he made a religion about Jesus, not the religion that Jesus taught, which was Islam, freedom, justice, and equality, gotcha, and submission to the will of Allah. Now, one of the most evil examples of Judeo-Christian Israeli uh folklore is the racist curse of hand. You heard about the curse of hand, of course, and that came from that's came from the the Jews and the Christians, all right? Yep, and so we have here even JA Rogers condemned that as a matter of his sex and race, yes, sir. So if you go to page 22 and 23 of sex or race, he has there where uh how this ham curse has destroyed the minds of black people, thinking they were curse because of their black, they had black skin because of a curse. All right, and look how the the uh the Jews or the translators of the Bible, Jews and Christians, white man, translated the Bible and say that Noah was drunk. What prophet is gonna be drunk?

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Exactly.

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Go ahead, brother. Right? Sodom and Gomorrah, they had Lot have an ex uh incest with his daughters after he escaped destruction. Exactly. Weird, very weird. That's Jewish, that's it, as an example of Israeli, Jewish folklore. Okay, all right. So we know so according to the story, Ham laughed at his father for being drunk and being naked or whatever. Okay, and so a curse was put on who? Black people. But see, get check this out. In fact, there's no mention of blackness in that verse. Exactly. If you look at Genesis 9, 25, 26 of the Bible, the curse was put on Ham's descendants that they will be servants of his brother's descendants.

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Okay, I see what okay, I got you. Some social engineering was done out of that. Gotcha. Gotcha.

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And then we look at the uh the uh great his uh historian Ibn Khaldun. Yeah, he lived from 1332 to 1406 A.D., the Arab scholar of history, etc. And his book, The Introduction, he demolished the ham myth as false and had no basis in Islam. Because in

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the those hadiths, that that book that I mentioned with the seven seven out of the ten were Israeli, they got the ham myth in that. So you got a lot of Arabs looking at us crazy, like we are cursed people because they read that hadith, those hadith. Gotcha. Okay, now mind you, the prophet Muhammad was a black man, gotcha, and one of his cousins, who was a poet, was jet black. Okay, that's a lot of history. I can't get into tonight because of the time.

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Brother, you listen, you gotta come back and do a part two, but yeah, you may continue that because I'm like taking all this in right now. I'm like, yo, this is a deep.

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So we go to Islam of the Quran versus Islam of the Hadith. All right, now for the first, like I said, 150 years, 200 years after the death of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, Muslims were guided by the Holy Quran alone, no hadiths. The Prophet Muhammad forbade it. Okay, uh Abu Bakr and Umar ibn al-Khattab burned hadiths, they would burn them, okay, and forbid the Muslims from even looking at those things. Okay, their focus was on the Holy Quran, and they led the Muslims according, and that led to the golden age of Islam. Golden Age of Islam. This was a time when the followers of the Holy Quran led the world in science, okay, technology, philosophy, and education. The city of Baghdad at the time was the world's largest city during that time. And the reign of the Kalafa Haroon El Rashid, who built the house of wisdom. It was him who built the house of wisdom. So they were at the forefront of everything. Technology, the whole works. And so the Kalafa El Rash uh El Rashid, Haroon El Rashid, he ruled from 786 to 809 AD. And the house of wisdom is where Muslim scholars and polymaths of all backgrounds came together, translating the world's classical knowledge into Arabic. All right. So these scholars uh were hundreds of years more advanced in education than the rest of the world. Hundreds. I'm gonna give you some examples. Uh, there were Muslims during that time who were able to calculate the size of the earth by degrees of longitude and latitude with accuracy, proving that the earth is round. If you understand it, they produce the most accurate maps of the world at that time, and then under the rule of Al-Mahmoon's uh leadership, between 809 and 813, the sciences received more economic support with heavier focus. So the years 833 to 847 AD were the glory years for the house of wisdom. Imagine that a house of wisdom. Let's think of that turn.

SPEAKER_03 44:01

Universities and everything else, as they put it. Yeah. So just to piggyback off what you're saying, and you know, correct me if I feel off. You say in the golden age, it sounded like a time when they came across the European came across the what he considered as the Moors. They were Islamic. Yes. So I see where you're taking over the manner of Islam. Yes, sir.

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Okay. All right. Look at the dates I'm talking. I'm talking about. Yeah. The Moors rule for 750 years. Yep. Spain. The Moors, the Black Muslims, built all the universities in Europe. The Saban and France, Oxford of York, etc., was built by us. Okay. Uh, under so going back to his, so the golden years were 833 to 847. Then we got to Al Corusin from 780. He was born 780. He lived to 850 A.D. And he was the head or one of the heads of a house of wisdom. And it is from his name that we get get the word algorithm.

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Gotcha.

SPEAKER_00 45:25

All right. All right. His book, Al Kata, the uh book Katab Al Jeba, Katab Algebra, okay, is where the word algebra comes from. Al Khalid, he was a polyman and a lexic a lexographer. And he produced the first Arabic dictionary.

SPEAKER_01 45:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:58

Okay. He he also uh advanced the science of cryptology. Right? Then we have the scholarship of Al Kindi. Al Kendi was a polymath, a mathematician, physician, music theorist, and wrote hundreds of original books on metaphysics, ethics, logic, medicine, astronomy, optics, etc., etc., etc. That's true. He also worked with perfumes, swords, jewels, glass, and zoology. And another polymath is one of my favorites because he's a brother. Alan Jaheez. You heard of Al Jahez?

SPEAKER_03 46:44

Never heard, never heard of him, but this one.

SPEAKER_00 46:46

Al Jahez was a polymath. He wrote books on zoology and uh uh uh and political science. He wrote 140 books, 75 of which are still you can still find today. And one of his books was called The Superiority and Glow and Glory of the Black Race Over the White, and he proved it in that book. Al Jaheiz wrote 140 books again, as I stated, and uh 75 are still in print today. Oh no, he was a polyman. Gotta look for those books, man. Yes, sir. Any book by him is a read. Any book, especially that one I just quoted, uh, the the title.

SPEAKER_03 47:37

You saying all this, is it's like it's turning the wheels in my head because I'm like it's straight to the source, right? These things predate what we know as the Western world science. Yes. So the nerve of people like Darwin to come up with this evolution theory. We got it from me now. Yeah, you know that, and and was from the whole thing to have eugenics saying that people of darker you are inferior. In fact, this uh LGE's brother was ranked some deep things back then. Yes, sir. I gotta look into that. So basically he's saying that all these people create their hadith from the source, they distorted something to create their own, right? Right.

SPEAKER_00 48:16

These these men here, the ones I quoted, yeah, those are Quran only people. Got you. They weren't into no hadiths, especially uh Al-Jahiz. He was saying you read the Quran, use your reason. Allah would not give us a book that we couldn't understand. Got you. One of the first things that the uh the angel or the messenger, Jibreel, who taught Muhammad, Prophet Muhammad for 23 years, yeah. First thing he told Prophet Muhammad was read. Yeah, read in the name of your Lord, all right, who taught man with the pen what he knew not. Okay, then we have the brothers, the Banu Musa brothers, same time period, Banu Musa brothers, 803 to 873, and they were geodistic. They they were able to do geodysic measurements to determine the length of the and the degree of the earth as well as determine the length of a solar year, is 365 days and six hours. See, geodysic is the shortest straight possible path between two points on a curved surface or a curved space, it is the curved space equivalent of a straight line on a flat plane. That's what geodysic means. The Bano Musab uh Musa brothers were also the first to invent the music sequence machine. Okay, so our people, the Muslims are into robotics and everything, and animatronics. Yeah, back then. This is the the ninth century.

SPEAKER_03 50:20

It shows, yeah, it does show. If you start if you create universities about the universe and learn everything else, what else? Nothing's impossible.

SPEAKER_00 50:29

That's right.

SPEAKER_03 50:30

Nothing's as um to quote Ligel Muhammad, where he said um he said Islam is mathematics, mathematics, Islam, something like that. Yes, sir. You can't lose once you have that in place.

SPEAKER_00 50:40

Come on, that's right. Uh that's on the problem book 13. Yeah, problem 13. Islam is mathematics. I'll be reading mathematics, is Islam, exactly, and it could be proven in no limit of time. Now, secure for yourself money, good home with the friendship is all life walks alike. But you have to speak the language, right? You got to, yeah. All right, okay. There's a lot of that one problem. Probably 13. Yeah, oh, that's a deep problem, right there, brother. Now, how do Muslims go from being a hundreds hundreds of years ahead of the rest of the world believing to believing that the earth is flat? Now, in these hadiths, brother, they're teaching the people that the earth is flat, resting on top of a whale in water above us or somewhere, and under that water, there's a bull.

Mythic Hadith Claims And Persian Roots Of Sunnism

SPEAKER_00 51:46

All of that's resting on top of that bull. Now, what type of food is this? Lost the symbolism.

SPEAKER_03 51:57

Not understanding what it means. No, they're saying that literally, brother.

SPEAKER_00 52:01

Oh my god. Okay, yeah. Okay, just like in the Hadiths, they have uh the heard of Prophet Muhammad's uh vision where he and they and they are saying that it actually happened, but see, if you use your brain, that could be metaphor, but they taking it literally that Prophet Muhammad flew from Mecca to Jerusalem on a horse with a woman's face and wings. That sounds like Pegasus to me, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:35

Okay, some people, but okay, yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 52:42

All right, I'm we've pressed for time, I see, but it was the Persians who invented Sunni Islam. Okay, yeah, I want to get it, not the Arabs. Uh yeah, I wanted to get into that. Yeah, what is Sunni Islam? Yeah, I guess so. Sunni is a term that derives from the Arabic word Sunnah, uh, referring to the traditions or practices and teachings of the Prophet Muhammad, may peace be upon him. There's a Sunnah alongside the Holy Quran, the Sunnis follow the hadiths, sayings, and actions of the Prophet Muhammad as a guide for their daily life, faith, and law. So Sunni Sunnism is a religion about Muhammad, it's not the religion that Muhammad taught. Okay. Sounds similar. Right, sounds similar to who? Paul. Yeah. Okay. So they they invented a religion, the Persians. Remember, the Arabs invaded Persia. Yeah. Well, the Arabs at the time, they didn't know anything about running a state. They invaded and conquered a highly technical and technologically advanced country.

unknown 54:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 54:03

Okay. They didn't know how to run it. So they had to leave the running of the country to the people that have expertise in running the country. Okay. The Persians. All right. And they're the ones, their scholars really wrote and invented Sunni Islam. That's a historical fact. They're the ones. Look, six of the authors of these hadiths were all Persian. Okay. All right. Sunnism was invented by Persians, converts to Islam. Persian scholarship is the very backbone of Hadith literature. That's a fact. Okay. So uh six of the most authentic Sunni Hadith books were written by Persian scholars, not Arabs. Uh, so you got uh Imam Bakari, and look at these dates 810 to 870. His hadith is considered the most authentic book after the Holy Quran. Isn't that something? Yeah, it's kind of number two. You got Imam Muslim. He lived between 818 and 875 A.D. Yeah, right? The third one that they go, uh Terra Hindi, I believe his name is. He was born 824 and he passed away at 892. Then you got Imam Abu Dawu and his hadiths. He was born 817, he passed away at 889. Then you have Imam Nasi Nasai Nasai. Uh he was born 829, he passed away in 915. Wow. And the the sixth ones that they always heard, uh Imam Ibn Ma Majah, he lived from 824 to 889. So all these casts were contemporaries of each other. Yeah, that's what it sounds like. Just remixing as they go along. There you go. And according to who which rulers ruling? Okay, they had propagandists. I'm gonna put it like that. Yeah, they were paid propagandists, had nothing, they couldn't verify half of this. Remember now, this these hadiths were written 200 years after the uh Prophet Muhammad had passed away.

SPEAKER_03 56:49

So when the lies constantly repeated, it becomes truth when it's not checked. Could it be could it be a gender like we know it's propaganda, but it could it also be um, I know it wasn't written in there in the Quran, but after years later? Some kind of agenda based on race at the time, being unhappy on how the golden era Islam took over, which is peak look darker hue. I'm not trying to erase Pimpia, but I'm just saying could it be? No, no, could it be troubled by that?

SPEAKER_00 57:17

It could have been. I believe it was, and also what better way to get back to somebody now. You invade Persia, okay what better way than corrupt the people who who conquered you, corrupt their religion, okay? Corrupt it now. There's some there's a case to be made if you really look at the history, the five daily prayers that the Sunnis do, yeah, came from the Zoroastrians. Oh, because the time of the prayer the same as theirs. Oh, and I might be stepping on too many toes.

SPEAKER_03 58:05

Oh, we got we gotta we gotta build on that, we gotta get you come back on that right there, man. Because that's that's powerful. No, that's powerful right there, the Zoroastrian, because we gotta get into that because you know we hear a lot about these different orders and stuff like that, yes, sir, yeah, involving that. And I have heard from oh, I don't want to say scholars, but watching you know, documentaries back then and and lectures where they say the Islam that many many are practicing was given to you by the Catholic Church.

SPEAKER_00 58:37

I don't know how true well it wasn't given to us by now. Well, they mirror one another, yeah, not the Islam that Prophet Muhammad taught, the hadith isms, the Sunni ism. Yeah, because see, I'm gonna tell you, they took a verse in the Quran concerning Jesus and Mare, the the author, so-called Orthodox, the Sunnis. It says when Allah decrees a thing, all he had to do is say, be and it is, all right, and this was relation to the prophet Isa and Mary, and they twisted it to believe if and their belief is that they believe in the immaculate conception too. Many so-called Sunni Muslims believe in the immaculate uh conception, which we know did not happen. Jesus had a father, it all people if you if you got here, you had to have the father and a mother. Okay, Joseph is his father, Yusuf was Jesus or Hesa's father. Okay, but they took that one verse and ran off with it. I'm telling you. And then Mary was a virgin. No, that's wrong. Quran don't even say that, they twisted the verse. Okay, so in many aspects, Sunni Islam, which is not Quranic Islam, okay, mirrors Christianity. I would say uh that it was heterodox Christianity, it's a form of it because of these hadiths. Okay, because of the had deeps. We gotta we gotta get you back here on here, bro. Yes, sir. Because I I didn't even get the chance to get to the gospel of Barnabas and Paul or none of that, but that's what that was on the thing. But maybe we can come back and do it again.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:59

Oh, definitely we have to, man, because it was music, and I'm like my mind right now is like, what? Hold on, hold on, like this is deep right here. You know, this is like you, you, you came correct, man. Praise be to Allah. And you will appreciate it. My people don't forget to comment, like, share, and subscribe. We got super chats. Go back and watch this show. Research what the brother is putting down for us. He was very deep, man. And I'm like, my mind is just running in too many different directions, but I must go back and watch this and dissect this.

unknown 1:01:32

All right.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:33

Again, brother, uh

Final Thoughts, Where To Find Ahmed, And Books

SPEAKER_03 1:01:35

Ahmed K. El Shabazz, right? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Brother, I appreciate you coming on. If God be with you, as well, my brother. I salute you and respect what you're doing, brother. Keep on shining. Where can people reach you at, man, if they want to get more of this lecture?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:50

Well, I uh I'm just a journalist. Okay, I'm ministering the nation of Islam, but I was I came into Nation of Islam as a journalist, and that's why that's my lane. All right, gotcha. Okay, I don't I don't do I'm I'm no I don't run a temple.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:08

Okay, gotcha.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:09

I know some good brothers that do. Uh, Brother Minister uh Daniel Ali Shabaz, Temple number 32 in Phoenix, Arizona. He's an outstanding brother. Okay, and he's he's he's very knowledgeable, and he uh teaches it the way it should be. I put it like that. I mean, a special shout out to him. So I've I I've I've done a lot of um uh uh documentaries and and things with with brother. Okay, gotcha. So I'm I'm a writer and a researcher, and yes, I'm a minister of the nation of Islam, but see, I teach a little different.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:49

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:50

I'm still up holding the new Islam, but we would we need to go into detail.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:57

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:59

I'm trying to prove Master Farad Muhammad gave us the real supreme wisdom.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:05

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:06

Okay, and the messenger taught it for 44 years. That's where I'm with. Okay. The messengers teaching forward.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:14

Yes, sir. You gotta bring your books, man, next time you come out, man. Some of your writings we could, you know, read and yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:20

Uh I had two books, uh, The Death of Satan. Okay. Uh, you can get those on Amazon.com, The Death of Satan. And that was published in uh 2013. And the other book that I have is co-written by myself and uh Sister Nadia Merriam. It's called Defending the Good Name of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad and the Muslims of the Lost Foundation of Islam. Both books can be purchased on Amazon.com. Gotcha.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:55

And the other one defending the Messenger Elijah Muhammad, right? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Good name of the mess, honorable Elijah Muhammad. Gotcha, man. Yes, sir. Appreciate it, brother. That being said, NYP family, we are out. Salute to all. Peace and love. Asalamalaikum, brother, brother. Thank you for having me on. Thank you.

unknown 1:04:17

Peace.