5 Percent Nation Buffalo N.Y. - Aslam

Twenty-six years behind the wall will either break your story or force you to rewrite it. I Supreme Allah (Ron Brown LMT) sits down with Shakim Allah to talk through what that rewrite looks like in real time, from a childhood split between Washington, DC and Buffalo, New York to the choices that led to prison at 17, and the long, painful work of coming home with your mind intact.

We get into names and meaning first, because in the Nation of Gods and Earths nothing is supposed to be vague. Shakim breaks down why he chose his name through Kemetic science and how that connects to Supreme Mathematics, then we trace his spiritual path: raised Muslim, reading the Quran early, becoming an imam while incarcerated, and still feeling the pull to research deeper. That search leads to the knowledge of self, the prison cipher, and the reality of being labeled and treated like a “gang” while trying to study and build.

The build goes even deeper when we connect science to show and prove. Shakim explains how studying Gregor Mendel and thermodynamics helped him frame self-creation, energy, development, and the responsibility that comes with saying “I’m God.” We also talk about prison politics, peace-building across groups, and why “measure” and “time” matter if you want results instead of slogans. Finally, he shares how a heart condition and surgery crystallized a new mission: launching God’s Power 716 to spotlight true and living examples, including Gods, Earths, and even guests outside the culture who are doing real social change.

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Transcript

Introductions And House Rules

SPEAKER_03 0:10

What's going on, everybody out there? It's Ron Brown LMT, the People's Fitness Professional, aka Soul Brother Number One, Reporting for Duty. Oh, wrong hand. And uh, oh, before we get started, I'm Ron Brown in my professional life, Ron Brown LMT in my professional life, Ron Brown LMT on this podcast. When I'm among the gods and earths, I'm going by my righteous name, which is I supreme. I'm I supreme Allah every day, really. Um, however, on this particular podcast, we're gonna place more emphasis on the I Supreme for the sake of the five percent nation. Peace to the God. Uh, first off, before we get started, um, I want you to pronounce your name because sometimes I butcher people's names and I don't want to do that. Peace, God. Attributes as I am, Shakim Allah. As I am, Shakim Allah. That's peace, God. All right, so before we go into the conversation, I just want to remind people to uh make sure you comment, like, share, subscribe. Uh, also follow the Instagram. I'm heating up on Instagram. I'm just striking up conversation, causing a little, I'm not causing trouble because you know we don't want to cause any trouble. However, uh uh uh because I know the media deals with you know hot with heavy sensationalism, I kind of went with that a little bit on the Instagram. Check me out on there. I'm asking some some good questions on that Instagram. It's NYP Talk Show at NYP Talk Show uh uh Instagram. Check me out on there. Now let's go into it as I am uh Shakim Shakim Shakim Shakim Shakim as I am Shakim Allah, peace to you, peace guy. All right, on this uh lovely day of born,

The Meaning Behind Shakim Allah

SPEAKER_03 2:06

that's today's mathematics. Um and uh first off, let's start with all right, I'm gonna just say this straight up. So from what I learned in the nation, your name should come from the Supreme Mathematics, Supreme Alphabets, and things. So, like um, you know, from what I learned, the brothers kind of like got away from the quote unquote Muslim names. So that's what I learned. So that's why my name is I Supreme Allah. So where did you get Shakim? Because Shakim sounds like a Muslim name, you know, and things like that. So, you know, let's build on that, on your name.

SPEAKER_00 2:51

It's uh it's actually comedic. It's comedic. At the time when I came into the nation, I was studying the science of comet, and uh, it's the original term for the pharaohs. What the Greeks called the pharaohs is shakim, which means black king who upholds the sacred laws, which I understand to be supreme mathematics.

SPEAKER_03 3:12

So indeed, indeed. All right, so it's comedic, and so before you got into the uh the nation, you were dealing with the comedic science.

SPEAKER_00 3:22

I was studying it, but like Muslim before I came to the nation.

SPEAKER_03 3:26

Okay, so oh, that's

DC Roots And The Move North

SPEAKER_03 3:28

interesting. So let's let's rewind then. Okay, Buffalo, New York, indeed, all right. Um, and I'm assuming you're around my age, so you came up in the 80s and 90s? Indeed. Okay, and uh, what was your upbringing like out there in um in uh Buffalo?

SPEAKER_00 3:46

Well, originally I'm from DC, but I moved to Buffalo in 91, I believe it was. Okay. Um honestly speaking, my upbringing in Buffalo was not that great, man. Uh got involved with the wrong type of people, wrong type of things. Young, dumb, you know what I mean, make extremely horrible decisions, like couldn't think past the next step whatsoever. So I landed in prison at the age of 17. And I spent almost 26 years in prison. Wow.

SPEAKER_03 4:27

Okay, okay. So let's you can't, we just can't just go like that, right? So let's let's let's rewind because you know, um, I used to go to DC, Maryland every single summer when I was when I was a kid uh or a child, whatever you want to say. Um, and uh my grandparents moved from Harlem straight to uh Maryland in Capitol Heights. Capitol Heights is right next to DC. I have family, I have family in DC. So um you moved to DC in 91. I mean you moved to Buffalo in 91. What was the upbringing like in DC? Like what uh prompted the move?

SPEAKER_00 5:06

Um DC was beautiful, man, first and foremost. As you know, it's called Chocolate City for a reason.

SPEAKER_02 5:11

That's true.

SPEAKER_00 5:12

So uh where in my neighborhood I grew up in, um the community was a community. Like literally, your neighbors could put belt to ass. You know what I mean? And your neighbors showed you the same type of love like your aunts and your uncle. But um my family started going through a lot of turmoil. Unfortunately, my dad, he was uh incarcerated at the time, and uh I was living with my mother, and um her mother passed away, and the government foreclosed on our house. So we had to find a different situation. My mother moved up to Buffalo with my brother's fathers, right? Who my stepfather. And um, it was a rough road, but you know.

SPEAKER_03 6:06

So how did you how did you get acclimated to live going from a community set? That's a lot, that's a lot that happened in your life at that point. Not not trying to play psychologist, but you know, uh, it's a lot, you know. Um your dad, your old dad, and then y'all moved to and then your your your your your uh old great old great grand, right? No, how how what is it? Old grand or great old, I forgot how the term's mother returned to the essence, right? Right. So she returned to the essence. After she returned to the essence, y'all had to move, house was foreclosed. That's a lot, right? And then you come you get to Buffalo. When you get to Buffalo, what's happening at that point? Like, um, what did you it? Was it was it a smooth transition or no?

SPEAKER_00 7:02

It was it was a relatively smooth transition because of my brother's family. They embraced me as their own. Okay, especially my who I my grandmother from my brother's side of family, who literally I called my mother because she was that me and her was that close. Um, and like I said, they embraced me and it was a smooth transition. It's just young, like I said, uh started looking around for different things in the wrong places and made some really very bad decisions.

SPEAKER_03 7:33

So okay, so the terminology is grand older. So I just it just slipped my mind. So now when you said you're getting into different things, like you know, when I was coming up, the first thing I I I um I kind of got introduced to, yeah. This is like personal, but I'm gonna share it. The first thing I kind of got introduced to, if it had to do with the streets, was like robberies and all that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_00 8:03

Yeah, I was more into the drugs, which unfortunately led to shootings, right?

SPEAKER_03 8:11

Right, right. That's a that's a natural progression for that world, right? Unfortunately,

Bad Decisions And A 26-Year Sentence

SPEAKER_03 8:18

unfortunately. So now you after that, I mean, but that's not the only part of your life, though. So I mean, what I mean, give me some happy times, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 8:29

Like coming up realistically, God, yeah, as I look back on my life throughout my years in prison and reflected on things, my entire life was good, God, even through the negative, it was good, right? When I came to Buffalo, I I wasn't into sports like that. So uh one of my neighbors introduced me to baseball, and I became amazing at it. You know what I mean? Became my my my sport of passion. That was my go-to place whenever I was stressed out. I was a hell of a pitcher. Had a 13 years old, had an 89 mile an hour fastball. Wow, I mean, I loved it. There was a lot of great things, like I said, the family structure up here was a beautiful, beautiful. My grandmother, she was my world, man. My world. And he just made everything right. No matter what I was going through, she found the way to make it right. So there was a lot of beautiful moments, you know what I mean? Right.

SPEAKER_03 9:24

And now your old dad, he was still incarcerated, and then he returned to the return to the essence. Oh, sorry to hear that, brother. And did all right, while he was behind the wall? No, after he got released. Okay, okay. So you leave at least you got to build with him, spent some time.

SPEAKER_00 9:42

Unfortunately, I didn't. Okay, gotcha. Unfortunately, I didn't because at the time when I when he returned to the essence, I was incarcerated.

SPEAKER_03 9:51

Ah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn. Pardon me, God. All right, so so so now, so now, you know, all of these things were happening. You get locked up, you do 26 years in prison, you get out of prison, what's the first thing you do?

SPEAKER_00 10:11

The first thing I did when I got out of prison? Yes, sir. I don't think it's appropriate to say it on the show, uh. Okay, okay. No, seriously, though, the first thing I did when I got out of prison is uh me and my wife took a nice drive. My wife, he was she wasn't my wife at the time. We took a nice drive and just reminisce, and you know I mean, all right.

SPEAKER_03 10:36

So you reminisce with uh your your your wife. So if you reminisce, that means you've known each other longer than the set 26 years. Indeed. We met each other when we were kids. Oh, you know, I love that. Hold on, where's the bomb for that? We gotta we gotta congratulate black love, man. Absolutely, that's a that's a wonderful thing, man, to be with somebody that you you've been with since kids, you know, you've known since a child.

SPEAKER_00 11:04

That's beautiful. And so we wasn't together the whole time, right? Right? I had gotten married to someone else while I was incarcerated and everything, but um, my my wife that I had got married to, she returned to the essence. And like a year before I came home, uh my sister-in-law told me that uh my wife was looking for me. So she linked us together, and that's all she wrote.

SPEAKER_03 11:30

That's peace, God. That's peace. So now you get home, you take a long drive. Now let's let's backtrack, go back behind the wall. Is that where you got the knowledge behind? All right, all right. So you're Muslim, you got into the comedic teachings, and then you got into the knowledge of yourself. So let's let's take it, let's take it to

Coming Home And Finding Black Love

SPEAKER_03 11:52

the co through the cultures, right? So you got into Islam.

SPEAKER_00 11:55

Um I was born and raised Muslim. Born and raised my family was Muslim. That's right. I was born and raised Muslim. Literally, the Quran was the first book I ever read.

SPEAKER_03 12:05

Wow, that's see, I love that. Just like uh uh just just Mecca, she kind of had a uh has a similar indeed upbringing, yeah. That's peace. So both your uh old dad and old earth, they're both okay, Muslim. All right, so you grew up that way, okay. Quran. Now, how did you get into the comedic teachings?

SPEAKER_00 12:26

Well, while I was uh incarcerated, I had actually became the imam for the facility, and during that time I just started feeling something different, you know. I mean, something was telling me I was on the right train, wrong track, and I couldn't figure out what it was, so I started doing research, reading different cultures, religions, and things of that nature, trying to figure out what it was that wasn't sitting well with me. So I went to the comedic science and I started to enjoy that to the point where I started to see a lot of truths in it, but it wasn't a complete story for me. Then one day I'm literally walking in the yard and I overheard some gods building. And as you know, the gods have a magnetic attraction for real. So I as I'm spinning the yard, I spin back around and slowed down this time. I'm gonna listen longer. On my next spin, I just had to stop. And it was just an amazing building. In fact, they was building about something that was kind of crazy. Uh, they was building out about the science of Yaku. And one guy was getting completely bombed because he made a statement saying that he knew where Yaku lived at, his actual house. So he was getting bombed for that. And that, when as I'm watching this conversation, I said, it's something about this. And it's ironic because later in life, my mother told me that um we was living in New York City for a while. And as we was traveling through the streets one day, some gods was building. And I was like five years old. And I she said, as we're walking, she said she realized that she didn't have her hand in my hand anymore. Because I was standing there mesmerized, listening to the gods build. So as I reflect back, I realize that was the first time that that knowledge really struck that chord with me. So when I heard it again in prison, it just naturally resonated with me.

SPEAKER_03 14:27

That's peace. Now, what what year did you come into the knowledge of yourself?

SPEAKER_00 14:31

2004.

SPEAKER_03 14:32

2004. That's a that's an interesting time right there. That that time was funny, man. That was a crazy time for me, you know. Um,

From Islam To Knowledge Of Self

SPEAKER_03 14:44

so 2004, and then so what was what's your enlightener's name or educator?

SPEAKER_00 14:49

Master Ron Dualla.

SPEAKER_03 14:52

Master Master Ron Dualla? Master Ron Du Allah from Brooklyn?

SPEAKER_00 14:57

Indeed. The martial artists? No, not that one, no, no, no. This one is in the Fez now. No, this one's in the Fez now.

SPEAKER_03 15:04

Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. I'm like, I'm like, okay.

SPEAKER_00 15:09

He had introduced me to the to the to the teachings on a deeper level, and then when we separated ways, I was building with the guy I got a lot. Um, the god uh why scientists a lot. These gods were instrumental in my upbringing.

SPEAKER_03 15:26

So and they're all uh from where you where you are right now, Buffalo?

SPEAKER_00 15:30

Now Cypher. These like I said, these were gods I met in the penal system.

SPEAKER_03 15:34

Ah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 15:35

Most of them was from Queens or Rochester, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 15:40

Got you. That's a piece. So you you come into the knowledge. What books, before we go into the five percent teachings, what books did you read in the comedic teachings that that uh you know basically held you over until you got into the teachings of the five percent?

SPEAKER_00 15:56

I think Metal Netter volume one and two was crucial ones. Oh, those you gotta have those. Oh, of course. Gotta have those. Um and it was it was various books. I was trying to learn to read the script itself. Right? Because during my cultivation, I literally taught myself several languages because I wanted to learn the different roots of words. I love etymology, it takes you somewhere else when you're dealing with your research. So I was trying to learn uh to read Egyptian. So I was finding different books, and Metal Netter, volume one and two were two crucial ones. And did you get anything out of those books?

SPEAKER_03 16:42

Because for me, uh you know, I was like, I gotta push in another direction out of them. What you say? I gotta push into another direction. That's peace. So 2004, you get, you know, you you have the you're in light, you know, your educator, you start building, you pick up the lessons. So, how did you get the lessons? Did you get piece by piece? Because sometimes some some brothers, sisters, they get math first, then they get the alphabets, and so on, and so on. Did you get it like that?

SPEAKER_00 17:16

I got it piece by piece initially until I separated from Master Randulah. Then

Lessons Behind The Wall

SPEAKER_00 17:22

the gods started giving me more lessons at a time.

SPEAKER_03 17:26

All right, that's peace, then. That's peace. So while incarcerated, um, what was the environment in the cipher? Was it what was it called? It was just called the cipher with the gods, or you know, what was the gods earth?

SPEAKER_00 17:41

Um, there was a point in time where you know it was illegal to have our lessons. Literally, if you had your lesson, you went to the box, and I was one that one of the ones that went to the box for my lessons. This is when me and Master Rondu actually separated. Um, but the environment in prison when it comes to the God is God's is very hostile from the administration point of view. Right? And I understand why. You know what I mean? When you have a beacon of light, the devil's gonna do whatever he can to try to dim that light. So, you know, they labeled us as a gang. And unfortunately, just to be honest and full transparency, we didn't help that cause for a lot of parts. You had a lot of individuals that were still living a gang life mentality. So now they're under the nation of gods and earth, or the nation, the 5% nation, but they're still having this gang life mentality. So then look like you see, this is why we didn't want to give them nothing to begin with.

SPEAKER_03 18:42

So, but it was a lot Yeah, you had something to say?

SPEAKER_00 18:46

No, I'm just gonna say it was a very hostile environment, you know.

SPEAKER_03 18:49

I mean, I want to unpack that a little bit. So, you mean they were uh, you know, uh gang activity. Well, from what I know, especially in that that era, especially in that era, bloods was popping heavy. I'm sure where you were, it was blooded out. Oh, I'm sure you were outnumbered. It goes on, right? Absolutely. All right, now how did y'all deal with that without becoming to the become one of them?

SPEAKER_00 19:24

For the most part, there was a mutual respect between the blood gods and the Muslims, right? That makes a lot of sense, and the respect came from the fact that just and realistic there was a point in time during incarceration where the Latin kings and the Yetas were slaughtering brothers. So it was either we come together or get destroyed. Me personally, I found I found a lot of alliances with brothers of different nations and was able to form bonds so to we can avoid certain problems. Like I even created a me myself, along with several other brothers, we created an organization called Peace, Men of Peace, in which we gathered

Surviving Prison Politics With Peace

SPEAKER_00 20:10

all the heads of these different organizations and had meetings to discuss issues so that if there was a problem, we could resolve it before it became a major problem. So there was a mutual respect amongst the gods, you know what I mean. And at the end of the day, let's not pretend like gods are not warriors, right?

SPEAKER_03 20:28

Oh, that's all that's already known. That's already known. That's already known. So so being there in you know, behind the wall, belly of the beast, you had a mutual respect, camaraderie between Muslims and the and the bloods. So so the bloods, you didn't pull any bloods into your cipher, like and just decide to drop the flag, maybe, and and then go into the nation, or that was an encouragement. What was the conversation behind that?

SPEAKER_00 20:58

You've seen it from time to time. You definitely seen it from time to time, and it went both ways, unfortunately. You have brothers from the nation that decided to go to towards them, right? But in certain plantations I was in, we had a mutual understanding that if, for example, uh uh an individual that was Da Mu or Blood wanted to become part of the nation, this was the only way he could leave peacefully. Nice, right? So we created that understanding, okay. Listen, he's trying to do something righteous, this is it, we're gonna respect that. So he was able to leave peacefully. A lot of other times, blood in, blood out. Let's just be real.

SPEAKER_03 21:34

Right, right. Now, this is a this is an interesting conversation because um, you know, I have this uh what I what I see is what I notice like people that I know that are bloods. I have like, you know, people that I grew up with that, you know, sandboxed, they became blood. And um, you know, uh somebody hit me up some a while ago and was like, you know, man, because he picked up. The math before. It's like, bro, man, I'm ready to like pick up the math again. And he was like talking about it, but he'd been blood since we were like really young. I went 5%, he went blood. You know what I'm saying? But he was studying lessons and all that. So I think that there is a mutual respect there. And the guards can um quote unquote capitalize off of that. Right? Because what I see, one of the reasons why this platform was created, because I notice, you know, um gang activity is like on a it's like at an all-time high right now.

SPEAKER_00 22:41

Indeed.

SPEAKER_03 22:42

And I was like, you know, if I can, the the the children are on the internet. So I'm gonna be on the internet with the teachings. I would rather them go 5% Moorish, Muslim, NOI, than be out in the street game banging. So um that's just something just to for us to, you know, maybe ponder about, you know, find a way we could um, you know, have those brothers and sisters gravitate toward us, toward us. Indeed. So now now while you're in, you know, behind the wall, you're studying, what other books did you study to supplement your

Science Study And Yacub Explained

SPEAKER_03 23:26

uh education 120?

SPEAKER_00 23:29

To supplement 120? Yeah. Most of the books that I was reading was science books, right? Like Gregor Mendel, his science that he deals with intrigued me.

SPEAKER_03 23:43

What's that? I never heard of him.

SPEAKER_00 23:45

Gregor Mendel is the one who who postulated the concept that we know as Yaaku's grafting. He actually showed and proved that entire process. Right? By grafting.

SPEAKER_03 24:00

Hold on, I gotta get that name down.

SPEAKER_00 24:02

Gregor Mandel, he grafted the pea plant.

SPEAKER_03 24:09

Gregor Mandel. There we go. Y'all hear that? Y'all heard that first, you heard that first NYP talk show. Gregor Mandel. All right, that's peace. Now, okay.

SPEAKER_00 24:24

So it was it was a lot of that science that he was dealing with that allowed me to look at the lessons from a whole nother perspective, right? And then on top of that, this I started researching the science of thermodynamics, which really blew my mind and settled a lot of this for me.

SPEAKER_03 24:43

So okay, can you elaborate on that?

SPEAKER_00 24:48

Well, one of the first principles, for example, of thermodynamics is that energy is neither created nor destroyed, it simply changes forms, right? As I pondered that reality, I started to crystallize how the black man is God from way back then all the way up to now. You follow? Indeed. Okay, and it was thermal, it was these laws of thermodynamics that helped help that crystallize for me.

SPEAKER_03 25:15

All right, so you're saying the butt being that the black man is God from what time period? There's no ending, there's no beginning nor ending, though.

SPEAKER_00 25:23

Exactly, from as far back as your research will take you, right? Right, but I was sure I was seeing how from point A to point B, that same energy was being transformed.

SPEAKER_03 25:39

Now, this is deep. So, you mean as in self-creation? Indeed, so okay, so let's live we reproduce ourselves, right? Right. So, you you know, when I was when I was in the the dead world, right? Uh I was I will I would always say God created everything, but what who created God? Right? I would all that that was one question I could never,

Thermodynamics As A Living Proof

SPEAKER_03 26:12

you know what I mean, like answer for myself, right? And um, you know, but that's in a dead world. Now, in this world, and a law's world manifests, God brings himself into existence. All right, now through thorough dynamics, can you explain that? Can you ex can you give me a breakdown?

SPEAKER_00 26:35

Again, like I say, energy simply it does, it's neither created nor destroyed, it simply changes forms. For example, take uh what we know is H2O, right? It has various stages of its existence, right? Solids, well, let me put it in correct order a gas, a liquid, and a solid, right? When it's in a to in order to create that gaseous state, you have to heat up the molecules, right? And it becomes steam. In order to create the liquid state, you have to cool down the molecules to the point where it remains as a liquid form. And in order to make it a solid, you have to freeze the molecules, which we know is to be ice, right? At no point did it change what it was, it just changed its composition structurally, right?

SPEAKER_03 27:27

Right, right.

SPEAKER_00 27:27

It was still the same H2O, right?

SPEAKER_03 27:31

Now, what do you say about the intelligence of the black man recreating, recreating itself and coming back and coming back, recreating itself until God manifests himself in his quote-unquote perfect form. Now I'm here, I finally got it.

SPEAKER_00 27:53

When when I look at the science of intelligence, God, especially in terms of being passed down, I'm seeing how we go through when we're born, we go through a state of ignorance, right? A lack of knowledge, so to speak. Right? And we have to develop to our higher self. That intelligence, that seed is implanted within our DNA. It sparked the moment we are recreated, reborn into this world. Right? It's just a slow process. Some of us it takes longer than others. Some of us can do it in one day. I don't know how long it took you to come to the realization that the black man is gone, but for me, it took quite a minute.

SPEAKER_03 28:48

Hey, listen, my dad was telling me that when I was really young, I heard it over and over and over and over and over again. And uh, you know, at 16, I came into the knowledge of myself through the 5% nation, but I was still struggling. Like, damn, I'm God. Like, that's it. Like, that's that's like so everything is on me, there's no help. Like, so I was struggling with that for a while. I was like, come on, there's gotta be something, you know. You know, it's gotta be something. Struggling, struggling, struggling until I said I I didn't like turn every every rock over.

SPEAKER_00 29:41

Exactly. So we come to a point we agree, you know what? I'm gonna stop looking for something that ain't no evidence of it. Indeed. The only evidence I see before me is my own reality.

SPEAKER_01 29:51

Indeed.

SPEAKER_00 29:52

When I wake up in the morning, I gotta feed and clothe myself. If I don't, I'm kicked out of doors.

SPEAKER_03 30:00

Indeed. Indeed. So thorough dynamics is one thing. Um, what was the other thing you mentioned? Um uh uh uh oh uh Gregory Mandel Mandel. Um what what other books? What other books? Because this is this is dope. I don't know if anybody's really listening to this right here because I'm I'm I'm picking up what he's putting down.

SPEAKER_00 30:23

You know, it's ironically, two two of the books that I read the most were the Bible and Quran, right? And it's because a degree in the lessons, the knowledge degree in the one of 40 made me re-evaluate those books more. Why you say that it redefined what they were in that lesson? It told it it redefines those books as history. So I started to look at them from that perspective. These are historical books. Let me see what historical facts I can get.

SPEAKER_02 31:00

I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying, right?

SPEAKER_03 31:02

Well, that's where I have a problem. This that's what I have a problem with because um, yeah, we can say that, right? However, what can we verify with archaeological evidence that says these things happen in history?

SPEAKER_00 31:21

Ah, see, therein lies the misconception. When you look at the degree, it don't it's not speaking about history in the past, it's speaking about history that we make every day.

SPEAKER_03 31:32

Indeed. Okay, I see what you're saying. Now I get your point.

SPEAKER_00 31:35

All right, indeed, right? Okay, okay. I looked at those books and started delving deeper. I I instead of just seeing the Arabic words, I I wanted to learn Arabic, so I learned the Arabic language, learned how to read and write it, learn learned how the the roots of these words, what they really meant. For example, Allah.

Measuring Godhood And Counting The Cost

SPEAKER_00 31:56

When you look at this word, it's so powerful, it starts masculine and ends feminine, right? Which tells me there was a duality amongst this reality, right? The word itself means A-L means the L A H from Illa, God, the God. So it's not talking about anything mysterious, it's talking about the actual reality of what God is, and it's definitive. That's why it has the word the that's the definitive term. So because it's definitive, you should be able to define it. So again, going back to the all the science of thermodynamics, as I'm delving deeper into this science, I'm seeing how there is a consistent truth. And to quote something you use all the time, and I love this from you, God. I love this the word measure, right? When I think of the term measure, it's something that you're calculating to be exact, right? You do it consistently to make sure that your results are exact. If not, you gotta start over. When it comes to showing and proving the reality of God, it's something that we have to consistently measure. Hold on, hold up.

SPEAKER_03 33:29

I wasn't thinking like that. Well, hold up. I gotta let that sit, sit in my dome real quick, keep built in.

SPEAKER_00 33:39

Yeah, but like I'm saying, it's something that we have to consistently, consistently measure. And I put a build up this morning on Facebook about time, right? Today's Supreme Mathematics tells us it takes the devil 35 to 50 years before he can call himself a Muslim son. Not to be a Muslim, before he can even call himself that.

SPEAKER_03 34:03

Right, you're talking about an uh uh one of 14.

SPEAKER_00 34:06

Indeed, right? That's time. It takes time. A lot of times in this nation, we don't give the individual the time to fully develop. And what happens is we have a lot of premature individuals coming out here saying, I'm God. Let's just be real about it, right? And then you look back, damn, I thought you were God. What is this you doing? They didn't properly measure what it means to be God. A lot of us fall victim to that, right? A lot of us don't see how much of a responsibility this entails. It's not an easy task, it's a hard burden to carry, right? When I look at, for example, Atlas. This is this European concept of this man struggling to hold up the earth. His knees is buckling if you look at it carefully. We the original man is God, six sex ten tons is nothing to him. We're not gonna buckle under that pressure, but a lot of us didn't calculate exactly how much that was gonna cost, how much we was gonna lose. How many of my family members said, yo, I can't, you talking about you? God, I believe in Jesus Christ, I can't associate with that. Damn, we lost a lot. I personally lost a lot.

SPEAKER_02 35:33

Me too.

SPEAKER_00 35:35

So you understand, yes, sir. A lot of people don't calculate those loss, they don't calculate how your friends are gonna now call you a square. But I'm good with that.

SPEAKER_03 35:46

Or or uh here you come.

SPEAKER_00 35:50

This five percent of God body stuff, yep, right? But I'm good with that, and this is one of the beauties that wise scientists of law, I God, powerful, many gods that I encountered. This is some of the beauty that they imposed in me, that they showed me. Yo, it's not gonna be easy, it's gonna be extremely painful, but it's extremely worth it. Like one of the things that uh I guys always tell me, everybody ain't meant for this. That's why it's called the five percent. It wasn't meant to be an abundance of numbers, that ain't the case, because only a handful of us are qualified, and we qualify ourselves, right? But only a handful of us are prepared to really go out and carry on this duty of civilization teaching others, so that's in true indeed, God.

SPEAKER_03 36:59

True indeed. Um, the measure, measure, mm. Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_00 37:06

I got that from you. I I read your bills all the time, God. I got I I see you use that word constantly, and I'm like, let me look this word up. So I looked it up. I said, you know what? I get it, I get it.

SPEAKER_03 37:19

Now, um, to move on to so we spoke on any other books. So you had said the Bible, the Quran, thorough dynamics, Gregor, Gregor Mandel, and uh any any other books?

SPEAKER_00 37:33

Of course, I've I've read I've read many books, such as uh I don't like this, I don't I don't use this word, but from inward the gods, for example. Yeah, um I even I even read uh In the Name of Allah. Okay, right, even though a lot of gods told me not to read that book, right? I've read that, and a lot of the plus degrees that I was able to encounter from different gods over the years.

SPEAKER_03 38:00

Now, the plus degrees, plus degrees are interesting because

Plus Degrees And How To Study

SPEAKER_03 38:04

um, you know, you'll find gods with a a binder book of life this thick, with you know, of course, 120, and then after that, it's like a bunch of plus degrees. Now, what plus degrees did you ever you did you come across? Oof, let's see.

SPEAKER_00 38:27

I came across grass.

SPEAKER_03 38:29

Yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 38:30

Say that again.

SPEAKER_03 38:32

I came across some plus degrees about grass, sex control. Yeah, you got that one?

SPEAKER_00 38:39

I I've I've I yes, I do. Yeah, uh, solving a problem, XYZ, uh teachings of a law on the first nine born. Yeah, yeah. Um, it was many plus degrees I came about, and again, a lot of them the gods that was around me tell me, yo, these aren't actual facts. Study these, analyze them. If you see something ain't right and exact, break it down, come back, let's build on it, right? Because sometimes as we're we're doing our research, we personally might see something ain't right and exact because of where we are mentally, but someone else can actually see the reality of it and show and prove it and give you the actual tools to see it clearly. So that's what I did. I would go back, analyze what they gave me, came back. Yo, what this mean, what this mean? And gods was they walk with me, they literally walk with me. So I I love these gods because of they sent me on this path the right way.

SPEAKER_03 39:36

That's peace. And so are they still incarcerated?

SPEAKER_00 39:40

Many of them are, yes. Many of them are.

SPEAKER_03 39:43

Wow, all right, all right, and then so when you came, when you came out, came home, started building with the wife, y'all went on a ride. Now, of course, you got a lot going on now, right? So you gotta get acclimated to the new world now. It's crazy. You gotta get a job, just decipher born, uh, whatever education you got behind the wall, you're trying to, you know, make things you know manifest. So, I mean, you give you, of course, you got busy the first year or two out, super busy. Now, after that, what was done to make to

Reentry, Heart Surgery, New Mission

SPEAKER_03 40:22

solidify the nation in your area?

SPEAKER_00 40:25

Well, it took it took me a couple years of being home before I learned about the culture up here, the dog up here. Um, and it was one of the things that I was telling my wife that I'm doing everything I can. I'm working every day, providing for my family. You know what I mean? I'm doing everything the right way. I'm not out here trying to cut corners and none of that. Hard day work is a hard day work. I'm gonna get it. Right. But I needed something for myself. I needed something to bring me back to us where I can find my peace at. Right? I play chess, that wasn't working. Right. So I told my wife, I said, yo, I gotta find out where the gods is at, where the earth is at, because that's what I'm missing. I don't have them, no one to build with. And it's just what happened as I'm going through this phase. My wife's cousin hits me up. He's God. I said, Oh wow. He says, yo, there's a brother here about to open up a school. No, he said that the brother that opened up a school here, Paul and South. Yo, you should come down. I said, okay. Where's it located? So he told me where it's located. I said, I'm gonna come check it out. Went through, checked it out. It was new, so it has its growing pains. You know what I mean? So when I get there, I I meet the gods, and I said, Okay, whew, I'm home. This this is what I've been missing this whole time, man. Now I know why I felt so out of pocket. As I'm building with the gods, gods asked, yo, won't you come to Supreme Educator here? Okay, peace. So every week I'm at the club, I'm at the school teaching every week.

SPEAKER_02 42:15

That's peace, right? That's peace.

SPEAKER_00 42:18

And then, you know, some some things occurred, which I'm not gonna build on, but some things occurred and I had to separate myself for my own peace of mind, right? Which hurt me to do because again, I searched for this to get me back where I need it. And during the process, like I suffer from a heart condition, unfortunately, right? So I'm in the hospital undergoing heart surgery.

SPEAKER_02 42:44

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 42:45

As I'm recovering from the heart surgery, I tell myself, I gotta do something more. So I started looking into creating a podcast, and as I'm analyzing the idea, it just crystallized while I'm laying in that hospital bed.

Building God’s Power 716

SPEAKER_00 43:04

Came out the hospital, boost on the ground.

SPEAKER_03 43:09

Right. Now, how did you meet uh just mecca? And and um, I want to build about the other brother because he's like, I don't even know, I don't even know, I don't know anything about the brother, you know what I'm saying? So um let's talk about first just mecha. So, how did you say, you know what? I want to do this podcast, just mecca.

SPEAKER_00 43:32

Well, I met Jess Mecca at the school, right? Um, and she wasn't the most qualified Earth in terms of having 120. Just Mecca was new to the nation, right? Right, but sometimes it don't take years to see the potential, sometimes you can see it instantly, and as the earth was building, I said. Something about her. There's a light as an aura around this earth. Just like a goddess. Right. So when I when I came up with the idea for the podcast, in all transparency, my first thought was another Earth. One that was more seasoned.

unknown 44:19

Right?

SPEAKER_00 44:19

And we actually interviewed that Earth on the show. But then when that Earth said she wasn't able to do it because of her location, I said to myself, the only right course is just mecha. So I brought it to her. And at the time she was separating herself from the school for her reasons. Right? So I said, listen, this could be our chance to you know create a mark to show what this nation is really about. I spitballed the idea to her, she liked it, and we took it from there.

SPEAKER_03 44:56

S peace. Somebody in the chat, uh mental the gods 777. Definitely an aura around the earth. The earth got it. The earth got it. She got it. Um, so the other brother, uh, what's his name? You know, no disrespect to the brother. I just never communicated with you before, you know, and then on social media, I don't I never see you, so I don't know. His name is Saikim. Say Kim Godala, say Kim God of Law.

SPEAKER_00 45:26

Okay, indeed. All right. Again, that was my that's I I was introduced to him by my wife. That's my wife's cousin. That's your wife's cousin.

SPEAKER_03 45:36

All right, so got it. Say Kim is your wife's cousin. Now it's all it's all it's all coming together right now, it's all peace. So now you you tell the earth the earth is like a go-getter. So she's probably was she was she right on it? Like, yeah, like let's do it. Or was she like hesitant?

SPEAKER_00 45:56

She loved the idea, but had it had to crystallize with her how it was going to be done. And the same for me, because this is something that I was venturing into for the first time. I knew nothing about it. Right. Fortunately for us, we had a a good crutch to lean on, and that crutch was my brother, who is the producer of the podcast, produces podcasts for a living. Oh. So he taught us little ins and out as we're going along. He's still teaching us. He has us going. I haven't been able to make it to him because of my work schedule, but he's brought Mecca to seminars to show her. Listen, now, this is how you go from stage to stage to stage. This is how you get to that point where you're monetizing if that's your goal. You know what I mean? So we had that crutch. And I love my brother for that. This is my biological brother. Um, so I appreciate him for doing what he did for us. And in all transparency, he first of all, he charged us the minimum rate possible, not what he charges everybody else, and then it got to a point where we were he seen it, yo, listen, this is kind of a struggle. Don't worry about it. I'm doing this because I I believe in what y'all are doing. And he supported us through it all. You know what I mean? So my brother Jamil Cruz for that.

SPEAKER_03 47:16

Jamil Cruz, peace to Jamil Cruz. Thank you, brother. I need some tips for my damn self. This podcasting is uh, we you know, it's not um all that easy if you if you if you're just doing a niche like this, because um, you know, on on on YouTube or in the podcasting space, if it's not about gossip and foolishness, yeah, yeah. So there you go.

SPEAKER_00 47:48

But so now, you know, you got something real quick, and again, I told you this personally, it was watching your podcast, right? You and Mikey that's that also inspired me because I realized, yeah, you can do the positive route, right? We ain't gotta be gossip hungry and all that. We can do this the right way, and my whole point was I wanted to show highlight true and living gods and earth that are out here shining, doing what they're supposed to do, living this culture the right way, because unfortunately, there's a lot of people that ain't and I didn't want that to be the narrative, right? Right, my wife literally came. I brought her to the school one day, and she got a bad vibe. She was like, There was some things going on. She was like, Yo, it's kind of like a church, and I that didn't sit well with me. I'm like, nah, you're not about to call my culture no no religion, no church, right? But the reality is, then when she's looking out and seeing other individuals on Facebook, they're saying they're God and drinking and smoking, doing all types of nonsense. She says, Yo, what's the difference between y'all and them? So I say, you know what? I'm gonna show you the difference. I don't want my example to be it, I'm gonna show you multiple examples, and if

Spotlighting Gods, Earths, And Real Work

SPEAKER_00 49:18

you look at everybody we had on the shoulders are multiple examples of this culture, right?

SPEAKER_03 49:23

Right, right. Indeed. That's that that's like a misconception, too. Like everybody thinks that we all we drink and all smoke, like yo, peace, god, like that's not how it is, like at all, at all, it's not how it is, you know. So now, um the podcast. Name what's the name of the podcast? God's power 716. God's Power 716. God's Power 716. I'm gonna keep saying it. God's Power 716. Make sure y'all check them out on YouTube, God's Power716. Now, explain more about the podcast. So, you what what's the deal with the podcast? You bring the gods and earths on, and uh that's your format.

SPEAKER_00 50:10

Well, for the most part, we brought Gods and Earth on. We also had uh a couple in the brothers, a couple brothers that I know well that are not part of the nation of Gods and earth, or the five percent nation. One brother was a Christian, the other one's a Muslim. However, these brothers were dealing with social change, which is something that the nation is about. Right. So I wanted to highlight what they were doing so others could see your line. We got a bigger mission. We have to work together, we have to find common ground. Whether you agree with their ideology or not, look at what we have in common because somebody else is also looking and they're trying to destroy all of us. Right? So it's other individuals, but again, for the most part, the platform is designed to talk and build with gods, hear their stories, where they came from, their struggles, how they overcame their struggles, how they rose to success. Like one of the gods we had on uh was the god, my my God King Allah. Right? And this is a brother that I did time with. Not to throw the gods out there, but again, he literally just came home right before me. He's a millionaire now. Literally a millionaire, from coming home with a positive mindset, uh understanding who and what he is is God, and a determined idea. Now he owns several dispensaries and other businesses throughout Albany area and different states. Nice. You have um the brother St. Kim, for example, right? This is this guy he has more badges than a little bit, real estate, uh taxes. Like the guy did my taxes when I came home, right? And he did time in prison. Um, and he's also an author. Right? You have various gods who's doing various amazing things. Let's just talk about Mecca. She was interviewed on the show, right? Mecca, who works her normal job, works her second job, like as my wife would say, being a mother is a job, works that job, and now she's out here distribution, distributing clothing and apparel throughout the 50 states.

SPEAKER_02 52:42

Yo, I see it.

SPEAKER_00 52:43

She's on her grind. I every day I see a different review from somebody saying how much they love her quality of her merchandise, but it's not really the merchandise, I think it's the earth herself.

SPEAKER_03 52:55

Yeah, yeah. I want to know her diet. What is she drinking? She's drinking uh uh uh them juices, man, the uh them green drinks or something, something she probably h too well. You know, the earth got a stand tone, yeah yo, yeah. So um that's peace on the podcast and things like that. What other uh endeavors you're gonna get yourself into, like you know, business endeavors and things like that, or anything you want to let the people know that you got going on. Also, the name of your area from a law's world manifest.

SPEAKER_00 53:34

All right, first of all, um the name of this area originally was Bethlehem. That's what it was originally called to my understanding. I don't know exactly when it was changed, but now they're calling it born now.

SPEAKER_03 53:50

Born now, born now, right?

SPEAKER_00 53:52

Um, in regards to other indeed, my focus right now is I just had a daughter recently, my first child. So oh, congratulations, brother. Thank my my destiny, her name is Destiny. This is my everything. So my focus is making sure my daughter sees a positive example of what God is, so that she's not 20 years from now confused, running around here trying to figure it out. So that's my focus, showing my daughter what it means to be God. The podcast is kind of my focus. I want to get this to where we can stream it live. It's one of my goals. I want to be able to do it live, like like your show, right? Um, again, you're kind of my inspiration for a lot of this, but um want to reach out to gods from different places. Like I've I've recently been in contact with a guy from Puerto Rico.

SPEAKER_02 54:52

Oh, that's peace.

SPEAKER_00 54:54

And I want to have these type of individuals on the show to show and prove Allah seeing her everywhere.

SPEAKER_03 55:00

Indeed. Indeed. Now there's a God, his name is um uh infinite, who um I think he is par me, God, if I get it wrong. I think you're Cuban, I think. So um he's built a cipher in a country, a quote unquote Latin country. And there's a lot like you maybe you should connect to that God. I think that'll be that'll be that'll be uh connected with. What you say?

SPEAKER_00 55:34

I think that is the god I'm connected with. Infinite? I believe so.

SPEAKER_01 55:39

I'm I'm looking up his the his full attribute right now. Hold on. I got a lot to I I can't find it actually.

SPEAKER_00 55:50

So he wears glasses, indeed so, indeed so.

SPEAKER_03 55:55

Okay, that's the god. I know if this is the god, I've known him for like a long time. Okay, yeah, long, long time. I think early 2000s. I met the god. I met the god through um Knowledge Eternal and Sunyaz. They had something going on. Um, where's the brother from? Before I keep going on and on about this. Where is he from?

SPEAKER_00 56:23

Who was this? He's he gave me. Oh, I gotta find him now.

SPEAKER_03 56:26

You got it was it now justice or New Jerusalem? Now cycle. God is not from this the mainland. Oh, he's not from here. No, he lives over there. Yeah, oh, then that's not the same

Future Plans And Final Salute

SPEAKER_03 56:40

God. Well, okay, all right, yeah, yeah. Or maybe he moved, but you said he's from so no, he's this guy is living from a whole nother country. Gotcha, gotcha. So I I I think um uh it text, you know. Once we get off this, I'm I'm gonna send you a text, but anyway, let's get back to it. The podcast, God cast God Power716, the Godcast, indeed. The Godcast. God Power716. The next time you come up here, I want to make sure I have a banner at the bottom so they can always see that and they can go straight to your podcast, you know, make it easier on everybody. You know what I'm saying? Um, on that note, brother, thank you for coming out this evening. I really appreciate the bill. Uh, it got a little heavy in the middle. I'm gonna do my own research, my own due diligence, Greg Gormandel, and thorough uh dynamics and looking at the Bible and the Quran from a different perspective. Hold on, hold on. Ah, there we go. There we go. I'm I'm gonna make sure I put that up on the next one. God's power seven one six to God cast peace to Mecca, and we are out of here. Peace.