COINTELPRO PHONE AND INTERNET GAMES - Ron & Mikey

Someone is pulling strings playing phone and internet games. We aren't sure who it is and where its coming from. Kevin Ali has received some disturbing text messages and phone calls. Also, I got a message from a moor who has shown me a text of someone pretending to defend Eric Muhammad but the idiot spelled Muhammad with an O as in Eric Mohammad which isn't the way the real Eric spells it. Here's the kicker ... Its the same exact number of the Kevin Ali prank and the moor who got pranked. 

Someone is playing games.. Dangerous games... Who is it? We don't know but we are going to publicly address it.

Transcript

Greetings And Setting The Tone

SPEAKER_00 0:10

What's going on, everybody out there? It's Ron Brown, LMT, aka I Supreme. That's what we're gonna go with tonight. AKA Michael Colleone. Yo, shout shouts out to uh uh uh the brother who gave me that idea about Michael Colleone and Sonny, man. Peace to you, peace to you, brother. Uh great advice, you know what I mean? You've been uh hitting me with um great advice, but uh let's talk about it, man. Let's let's let's start about I need to introduce myself, peace, world.

SPEAKER_05 0:43

It's your brother Mikey Fever right, right, brother.

SPEAKER_00 0:46

Come on, brother. Once I say it, you're supposed to go.

SPEAKER_03 0:49

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:50

You know, this was this was this is uh the first um hold on, hold on, brother. Say he's here.

SPEAKER_05 0:59

Peace to the world, peace of the chat, man. How people are doing. Hope everyone had a great Father's Day, a beautiful weekend. Peace to all, peace to the nation, the gods and earth, peace to the NOI, Islam to the Morris Science, Temple of America, and uh for the nasal. Peace to my brothers that are traveling, you know. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Oh, you know, people like to you know spreading misinformation. Peace to Illuminati.

SPEAKER_00 1:32

We all get look what we got in the building tonight with us. We got Sheikh Denham Ill. Peace.

SPEAKER_05 1:39

Peace, peace, peace, God.

SPEAKER_00 1:40

Peace, peace. Life is great, brother. We got all of New York, we got all of New York covered. We got Brooklyn, Harlem, Bronx, and Syracuse in the building right now.

SPEAKER_05 1:54

Peace, please, please, please, peace. I'm just trying to give the people something to talk about. Yes, and I just joined the Illuminati and YP's Illuminati, baby. We don't do that, don't do that because then they're gonna take the clip, they're gonna clip it up, and then boom, try to make a case like the clip in your mom's ass. I'm sorry, I'm gonna get some Uncle Murder stuff. You take clips of us, you flip it, whatever, you put it right in your mama's ass.

SPEAKER_00 2:21

Oh boy name, yo, this is a family. I see, I see Kevin Ali 668 saying greetings, brother. If that is Kevin Ali, the real Kevin Ali, let me know if that's the real Kevin Ali. So uh the real somebody said the real uh the Illuminati doesn't exist anymore. Oh no, all right. So look, I know y'all came here for for a reason. So let's let's let's let's talk about it. We're talking about COINTEL Pro phone games, phone and internet games, right? So I'm gonna set it off in ignorance in the conscious in the so-called conscious community. So I'm gonna set it off with um my experience, right? So my experience with the community has uh, yes, brother, I've been on the podcast.

How The Phone Games Start

SPEAKER_00 3:10

Uh okay, uh Kevin Ali. I don't know if that's the real you. If it is, I'm gonna say Asalam Aleykum, and your response after that would tell me if that's the real Kevin Ali. Asalam Aleykum, brother. Uh, so let's go into it. I've had experience with the conscious community or the community, schools of thought, since 16 years old, right? This is not a game for me. This is not something that I wanted to be down with, right? Because, you know, for identity's sake or wanted to be a part of something, that wasn't my thing. This is something that is in me. This is something that a path that I've that that chose me. This is not a path that I've chosen. This is a path that's chosen me. So I grew up in Harlem among uh just if you want to call Afrocentricity, if you will. Okay, uh, so-called black pride. I grew up in this, right? And then at 16 years old, I picked up the 5% nation. Um, uh uh, I also at 18, I joined the Democratic Party Club. I started a uh a program in colonial projects for uh gang members and so forth and so on. And uh 2000 uh 200 uh 5, I joined the new Black Panther Party, and I learned a lot of things from the new Black Panther Party when I joined them. After that, I got into Morris Science. I've been in the more I've been in the movement of Moorish science for 20 years, been a five percenter for 30 years, and just recently, um, okay, all right. Um, so just from looking at the chat, pardon me. So just recently I've uh through Eric Muhammad and his teachings, and you know, I've taken upon the the teachings of the messenger, right? So it's it's it's something that's in me, right? This is what's called quote unquote foundational black American quote unquote culture, right? So-called African American culture. If we're talking about the nation of Islam, we're talking about the 5% nation, we're talking about the Moorish movement, right? This is my heritage, is that's how I see it. So I study all three, and uh, I'm very proud to uh study all three because it's a part of me, it's a part of my history, it's part of my heritage. So, anyway, my history in these organizations have been um up and down, up and down, up and down. I've I've witnessed a lot of greatness, and I've witnessed a whole lot of ignorance. All right, now fast forward to today, I want to talk about the phone games and the internet games that have been been played for the past couple of weeks. So I don't know where these folk these texts are coming from, right? I don't know where this stuff is coming from, right? But I'm gonna tell you this. A few people have uh gotten texts, right? You got Mikey, it started off with Mikey fever. You started getting texts first, right?

SPEAKER_05 6:45

Yeah, somebody was looking for their mother. I said they mom left that morning. I didn't finish busting that.

SPEAKER_00 6:50

Come on, come on, bro. Let's let's let's let's let's go into those text messages.

SPEAKER_05 6:55

Now, the the reason why I say that, I'm coming off like this, right? I don't I don't know what's more disrespectful. The actions of what I'm what I'm saying at this moment. We are all grown men. I find it very homosexual, like for a grown man to be playing phone games with another man. Something must be wrong with you. So, this is why I'm responding the way I'm responding. Maybe they mom left my house. I didn't tip her. Her box was bad. I'm sorry. I'm gonna talk like this to get I'm gonna get under people's skin for real. You know what I'm saying? I did it that whatever, kicked her out the next morning, didn't even tip her. And I hope you chop this clip up and use it. You know what I'm saying? In your mouth, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 7:38

So, look, let's go into the text so y'all can go into the history of the COINTEL Pro. So the first text we got is it started off with Mikey Fever. I don't know how long ago this was, but this is what the text said. I I was gonna put it on the screen, but I didn't feel like doing all that. Peace. This is what was said to this was said to Mikey Fever. Peace, black man, was texting to speak with you about brother Eric from the nation. This is not the minister's teachings, brother. And then, brother, you practice with the Masonic Temple. What really is this thing about you all are doing on the YouTube? Please call back, brother. Myself and some others, myself and some other other brothers from the nation of Islam need to speak with you. We have been watching the channel for two weeks now. I would like to add that we come in peace, brother. And then Mikey fever goes, peace. Who is this? No respond. No response. So it all started with Mikey Fever, right now. How long ago was that Mikey Fever?

SPEAKER_05 9:08

While I am uh uh uh I think it was about like a month or two, a month or two ago, and and I'll just ask who who it was because I kept it very cordial and respectful. The person didn't respond, and they just continue texting nonsense. And I'm not I'm not gonna respond. Once you don't identify who you are, and you're you're reaching out to me, and I get no identity from you. I'm not responding to you because I don't respect it. You're you're playing foolish passive games, and I don't fall into that. And for anybody who claimed to call themselves so-called conscious and decide to fall into these games, you are stupid. This is why I remove that narrative, and I hope please quote me on this. I'm gonna explain as best as possible. Let's stop blame blaming the white man for this coin tail pro. We already know what it is. We in the information age. If you're carrying out the actions, you are a fool, you are a coon. Remember, a white man's idea put these things in motion. It was black hands that took out Malcolm. Not a white, it was a white mind, but a stupid fool that pulled the trigger. Pardon my language, N I double G A trigger. Fingers were on the trigger. Same thing with the same thing with the um with the Black Panthers. It was a black agent that went in there and infiltrated, working for the so-called white men. So, again, we gotta look at ourselves. Stop blaming that white man. Look at yourself. How many of you were out here will go out there and sell your own brother? Same thing happened across the across the globe, same thing with Haitian politics in Haiti. Brothers are killing brothers. Come to show you it's the problem within our community. Our people are sick. Ron posts a video, this person versus that person, X amount of views, right?

SPEAKER_00 10:49

And it wasn't even six months. It wasn't even, it wasn't even a verses video. People saw verses and now it's getting 11,000, 12,000 views.

SPEAKER_05 10:58

Come and show me that we are in a sick paradigm.

SPEAKER_00 11:01

Crazy.

SPEAKER_05 11:01

I don't care how much how much consciousness a person, how many books a person

Reading The Anonymous Texts

SPEAKER_05 11:05

can read about history, you could quote your lessons all day. If you're behaving like a baboon, you that's what you are. A stupid, educated baboon.

SPEAKER_00 11:13

Right now, sorry, brother Mikey fever. I want to I want to make sure this point is brought home. So Mikey fever, those were the texts of for for going to Mikey Fever. Now, most recently, Eric Muhammad, and I don't even want to mention this person's name. I'm not mentioning nobody's name, but Eric Muhammad, because I know Eric Muhammad, right? And I build with Eric Muhammad and I build with Kevin Ali and I build with Mikey Fever. So now these texts I'm about to read to you went to Brother Kevin Ali. Okay, peace and blessings just reached out in a peaceful conversation, but after being cussed out, I won't call you anymore. Peace and blessings. Uh, some other uh text bear with me. That was uncalled for, brother. Peace and blessings. If you need any help or assistance, brother, hold on, hold on. Okay, so these are the texts, right? We have been called up last night to address this. A lot of the Moors are not feeling this, brother, and they calling up the Mufties to deal with the no y to this matter. Can you quell this? Right now, I could go on and on and on, right, about this. Long story short, this person actually called Kevin Ali and mentioned his wife and his child. Oh wow, yes, disrespectful, very disrespectful, as in uh uh like almost threatening, you get what I'm saying, without threatening this brother. Now, here's the dumb thing that this idiot did, okay. This uh are these threats, brother. Who's having a uh comments? These are threats, right? If I tell you, uh if I'm having a conversation with you, I don't know you from a hole in the wall, and I mention, hey, you know that pretty wife you have, and you know your young daughter, okay, what does that tell you? What's that? What that's a threat without passive aggressive, yeah, it's passive aggressive, yeah man. Okay, so this same fool sending uh uh calling Kevin Ali, threatening him, threatening him on the phone, and sending a threatening text. This same person, same exact number. You hear what I said, same person, same exact number, right? I get a call. I get not a call, I get a text Saturday morning. I get a text Saturday morning. This person, I'm not gonna mention his name. He knows who he is. He is a more a more hit me up, right? And and send me screenshots of this person who texts them, who texts them, this more, this more who is from New York City, who knows me and Mikey Fever, right? This person texts me Saturday morning, like I said, this with the same number of the person who texts uh uh uh Kevin Ali. The person says to him, so and so name, right? The brother who we both know, Mikey Fever, goes, Who is this? Right, the guy says Eric Muhammad. Now, the way he spelled it, he didn't spell it with a you, he didn't spell Eric Muhammad with a you, which that's how Eric Muhammad's name is spelled with a you. This man spelled Eric's Eric Muhammad's name with a O.

SPEAKER_02 15:55

Oh, he might be an Arab or something, B. I don't know. I don't know. Or that could have been a throw-off or a misdirection.

SPEAKER_05 16:03

Yeah, could have right now, that's that's a good call right there.

SPEAKER_00 16:08

Now, Minister Eric Mohammed, right? This this person is pretending to be minister Eric Mohammed, and then goes, tell Brother Teharka to stop talking shit about the nation of Islam. Mind you, this is the same number of someone who is telling someone in the nation of Islam to stop talking shit about the Moorish movement. Now we have someone over here talking to a Moor to tell Taharker to stop talking shit about the nation of Islam.

SPEAKER_05 16:48

Same exact number games being played. You know why I want to add on before you guys.

SPEAKER_00 16:53

I want to wait before you before you before you I'm gonna finish. I'm gonna land after this. I'm done. I'm done talking about this after this. I just want to say this.

SPEAKER_05 17:01

Okay, whoever paid close attention to this, whoever has that Moore's number that we know, Mikey Fever that we soldiered with and did uh uh community, we get feeding the community worked out in the park together, had meeting.

SPEAKER_00 17:21

Yes, worked out in the park and all of that, doing martial arts and all of that. Yep. This whoever has that brother's number has Kevin Ali's number and has Mikey Fever's number.

SPEAKER_05 17:39

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 17:42

That's all I'm gonna say. And these are the texts right here, and that's all I'm gonna say, and I'm gonna leave these receipts, and uh, I'm gonna remember everything, and I'm gonna just watch, just like we're being watched, you're being watched, just like you're not scared, we're not scared.

SPEAKER_05 18:07

Talk about it.

SPEAKER_00 18:08

So you do with that whatever you want to do.

SPEAKER_05 18:12

I want to say this you you want you want to know why, for me in my 42 years on this planet, why I would not find Cointel Pro threatening for me. We live in an information age, that's number one. Number two, being that they say a people or a person should learn from their mistakes from the past. If I know a Cointel Pro was used to create disruption amongst organizations, and we are here in 2026, and I'm gonna allow that to happen. You must be a damn fool. Because before that even takes place, I'm gonna contact he or she on the phone, or if not, meet me in the physical so we can resolve our issues. I'm not gonna be on the internet playing these stupid games.

SPEAKER_00 18:53

Yo, Mike, love you, brother.

SPEAKER_05 18:57

Love you, you know. I mean, we're not because I it's not gonna work with me. And you know what? I'm gonna say this. I don't know to Harker from a whole, you know, from Adam. Whatever that brother's doing, he's doing what he's doing to maybe put the information out there. Same thing with Sonetta and all of them. If Cointel Pro really did it, you know, really that powerful and it keeps it's keeping us from coming together to work collectively to unite and uplift our people. All that educational stuff we we talking online is useless, it doesn't bear any fruit. Why even have a conscious community? You might as well just go back in the street and do dumb shit. Blood is

Impersonation And Quiet Threats

SPEAKER_05 19:40

this for the youth. This is why I don't fault the bloods and crips. I don't, I see why they don't respect the elders because look how the elders are behaving out here.

SPEAKER_00 19:49

And you see the internet fiasco going on right now, exactly.

SPEAKER_05 19:54

And this is why the conscious community, the conscious community, I look at it, I'm I hate to say it, it look it's a joke. We tolerated scammers, we we we tolerated scammers, we tolerate people to come in there with the pedophilia, nobody could check that. People come in there with misinformation, people are you know selling people dreams, and nothing is bearing fruit. You get what I'm saying? Not not one school the conscious community has produced, and I'm not I'm not talking outside, I'm talking outside the school of thoughts. Show me an academic school that the conscious community have built.

SPEAKER_00 20:30

No, you won't see that. Show me a show me a bouncy house, show me the easiest you can do, show me a uh a food pantry, show me uh uh what else? Uh uh a clothing drive, show me uh back to school, show me uh uh a basketball, uh a talent show. Remember, talent shows what happened.

SPEAKER_05 20:52

It's all entertainment now, it's all of going here, spread gossip, people this and that. That's all is that's being done, and to each say, Oh, and that's how y'all get your money. Go ahead, get it, but leave me out of this, and this is something I learned from my mother.

SPEAKER_00 21:03

Leave us out of this, yo.

SPEAKER_05 21:04

Leave us out of this one in none of that. And my family comes from Haiti, and this is what I see. My mom, although her and I disagree a lot. She always says, 'I don't know why people get involved in politics and get involved in act and being activists' because your own brothers and sisters will not appreciate you, they love to see the rebel, but would not catch bullets with you.

SPEAKER_01 21:24

Right, okay. A prophet received no honor in his own home.

SPEAKER_05 21:29

Talk about it.

SPEAKER_01 21:31

That's pretty much niggas.

SPEAKER_05 21:32

I'm sorry to say, it's a bunch of stupid niggas within these conscious communities. I I'm sorry, it's the coolest thing. They just want to debate all day, flex on one another. But these, like as Neil, um Neely Junior said, the black man's a tough ass coward. A nigga will have heart to shoot another nigga in a second, right? Let that white man come around or a cop come around, these niggas turn into lawyers. They change the whole vernacular, changes. The high pitched voice comes out.

SPEAKER_02 22:00

I did a whole demo on that.

SPEAKER_05 22:01

I'm sorry that I'm it's like it's getting aggravated. Bunch of suckers out here, yo.

SPEAKER_02 22:05

I did a whole demo on that, B. What you talking about? I did a whole demo on it. Whole demonstration.

SPEAKER_00 22:12

So for me, I'm done. I put it all. If you miss what I said, please rewind the video. Watch the whole thing. Whoever has the number of the more that me and Mikey Fever knows, and we soldiered with in 2020. Whoever has his number has Kevin Ali's number, has Mikey Fever's number, and they're playing phone games. Okay. And this could go left. So I'm leaving it like that. You brothers got the floor to uh build on COINTELPRO.

SPEAKER_05 23:01

Ron is wild. Yo, it's an honor to meet you, Sheikh for real, man. Peace. What's up, brother? You too feeling it. It's just that I got love for black people. I don't care where you're from, the continental Africa, diaspora, or here. I see you as family. You get what I'm saying? But when we act like this towards each other, none of us are perfect. We learn, we grow. But to be late in the game to see what's taking place in this world for us to behave as such, I don't respect it. I don't respect it. The brother put out a video of a tag that says versus. It was so many damn views that went up. And when they listened to the conversation, there was no verses. It was brothers sharing ideas and similarities.

SPEAKER_00 23:38

Bro, both videos I put up about that says versus they both are doing the best on the platform we ever seen.

SPEAKER_05 23:48

Come show that niggas are sick. Any other black platform within this conscious space that's doing their thing, peace and shout outs to you. Salute to you because it's a pool. We all hear got the same messages, different approach, maybe. But I don't view you as competition. You're not a competition.

SPEAKER_02 24:04

I'm sorry, but if you notice when you look at other platforms, it is versus it's but it's it's done in it's done in such another, it's done in such a way, you know. I'm saying it may, it may say, say it may be about male and female dynamics. And you got three sisters. And when the brothers speak, the sisters count. And usually a lot of times it turns into a shouting match. Exactly. I see it, I see it all over the place. Just just a com just a common conversation becomes a competitive effort. You know what I'm saying? It seems like you know, I told and I totally agree with you, you know what I'm saying? Like when you look at the platforms and you look at how the platforms are operating, they're all they're all they're they're they're almost operating from a counter cultural perspective. And that's how I know that some of these people are paid, brother. That they are given the platform specifically to do these things, like Charlie Kirk was given a platform. Well, we got we got people who look like us who've been given platforms too to do these types of things, and that is a COINTELPRO move. CONTOPRO started in 1956 and ended in 1971. Yep, you know what I'm saying? But the thing is that what we see, we're still witnessing aspects of that. For instance, COINTELPRO, the operators of COINTOPRO, they did a whole thing with the Black Panther Party and the NOI. They sent letters, they sent letters to the NOI, the NOI sent letters to the BPP, but none of them sent letters to each other. That was the FBI who sent the letters to them, caused a conflict between them. They almost killed each other, B. And they almost killed each other. So, what you're witnessing right now with the phone thing, the phone tag thing, that's a very common to disrupt. You know what I'm saying? That that's a very common thing, and and what's going on, what I see is the the the disruption is probably because your competition or they can't compete.

SPEAKER_05 26:05

Or whatever's being said is striking them, right?

SPEAKER_02 26:08

Exactly. Whatever's being said is causing is causing their ego to be ruffled. And to come from see with the see, here's the thing you know you can trace social media, right? You can trace text messages, yeah. You can you know what I'm saying? It's like are these they they're not too smart, they're not too intelligent. Um that's why I call it the coonchis community. It's never been conscious, it's it's the coonches community, it's it's coon shit, it's it's coonish, it's a bunch of coons, you know what I'm saying? And and the characteristic is coonish. So when we become gatekeepers to our own people, to each other, you know what I'm saying? Then we see the manifestation of what we're dealing with right now. You know what I mean? And this is for me, COINTELPRO is another style. They just they just retired the name. But you're witnessing these things all day long. And for those who don't know what COINTELPRO is, stick around. But we should all know what it is, because in the 50s it began with in 56 it it began basically with communism. But by the 60s, it expanded to black to black nationalism, the American Indian movement, any type of movement that was subversive that was subversive to the cultural paradigm of what America was trying to put down at that particular time. So that's where this shit went. And that's basically in a nutshell what it is, you know, the disruption. You got to think about you got to think about the techniques that they used. You know what I'm saying? You Jay J. Edgar Hoover launched it off. He it was his final, it was his call, right? And you know, you just got to think about it like the techniques they use, man. Spreading, spreading anonymous letters, misinformation, um, creating distrust amongst its members, amongst the members of different organizations, extensive surveillance, yeah, you know what I'm saying? Intelligence gathering, discrediting leaders publicly, causing situations where where the leaders are discredited publicly. Ain't that all what's going on right now to neutralize and to destabilize?

SPEAKER_05 28:05

Yeah, the rise of the black messiah.

SPEAKER_02 28:08

Yeah, that's that's what they said. And they said also in the coin to pro that any leader you get, it will be us giving him to you. Think about that shit. Think about that shit, and think about leadership from since think about that. Think about that. Any any leader you get, we will give him to you. They were looking for the messiah of any black revolution that killed Fred Hampton. You see what I'm saying? So we know we know the techniques, and brother Mikey Fever is on point for even just calling it out for what it is, you know. Cointelpro is right at your fingertips. But a lot of us aren't inclined to know these things because we're busy competing with our own selves.

SPEAKER_05 28:51

Can I add one thing too?

SPEAKER_02 28:53

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_05 28:54

Cointelpro is just like what happened within the black community and other melanated countries of black people. It's a self-cleaning oven, it's a self-cleaning oven program, as Nipsey Hustle say. Black, you know, block for me, black man. I'm gonna keep it so real with you. I walk the earth, I don't fear no man. You shouldn't. But I know when it comes to a time like this, and I'm gonna say this, they're gonna hate me for this. I expect to go by the hands of another brother, not a white man that's gonna kill me. It's gonna unfortunately be a brother. I'm gonna keep keeping it so raw. It's gonna be a brother that's gonna try to take me out.

SPEAKER_02 29:28

You 100% correct because I know what he's saying.

Why Online Spaces Drift Into Drama

SPEAKER_02 29:30

If I'm at the ATM machine, I don't worry about a European coming up to do something to me. I'm not worried about that. I'm worried about somebody who looks like me that may hit me in the head. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, you're 100% correct about those things. Also, brother, you Haitian, right?

SPEAKER_05 29:44

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 29:44

You got a couple tricks up your sleeves, of course.

SPEAKER_05 29:47

I got the trick. That's why I don't worry about these games, but I ain't want to get into that.

SPEAKER_02 29:51

But you're saying, yeah, you know, no thought because um, I'm I'm wearing, you know, I got a couple tricks up my sleeves, too.

SPEAKER_05 29:56

That's that's that's all because I know because I know even watch like those who are watching this show, if they ever see us in traffic whatsoever, it's not the white man I'm worrying about, it's one of you dumb fools that's gonna try to prove a point because I don't care if Coin Town Pro is in effect, I know they're gonna use your vulnerabilities to exploit you, and you're gonna carry out the action. So, again, what is the need uh what is the need of so-called black leader or leaders to protect and uplift the community if the comp if the community's not gonna protect that brother?

SPEAKER_00 30:27

Right now, I want to just I just want to acknowledge Brother Tariq for the ten dollars. I really appreciate it. He says, Samota B, peace God, Islam. I commented on your page about brother Steve Coakley resting. Steve Coakley. Yep, uh, lecture on YouTube entitled Black Finance of Black Leadership and Spies of Mississippi. I'm gonna definitely watch that, brother. I didn't learn about COINTELPRO until I joined the new Black Panther Party in uh, I think it was 2005, I think I said 2005. Yeah, I didn't know about that. I didn't know about COINTELPRO to 2005. When I I went to uh Trenton, New Jersey, uh, when uh Divine Allah was um you know heading the new Black Panther Party out there. We went into like this, it was so dope. We went into this uh uh it was like a community center, it was like dark and it was so movie, it was like a movie, and uh you had to sit there and watch a film on COINTELPRO. You couldn't move, like it was like, you know, and that's that's what I was doing.

SPEAKER_02 31:41

It was a great, great book. Written, written called COINTELPRO. It's a book. Um, I read it in 1990. You know what I'm saying? Um it's it may still be somewhere in publishing, in publish, being public, you know, it's still maybe in in publication somewhere. It's called Corn, it's his name, it's called Corn Top Pro, it's the name of the book, Cornel Pro. So that you know, it's a good collect, it's a it's a good book for you for you know to have in you know in your collection or whatever, man. But it sounds like to me, man, like um somebody wrote jealous, man, and and they're they're they're they're you know, they're going and they're going down to um these little tactics. That's pretty predictable. I mean, it's pretty it's pretty easy to gauge who this individual or individuals may be simply by yeah, no the way the folk the way the whole thing is juggling. And you know, brother Taharka, man, but you know, brother tahaka always up for smoke, man. Whoever that person is, they can just go call tell brother call brother to herka on their own and just tell him tell them the same thing, you know. Don't tell don't send a third party message, be a man, you know what I'm saying? Be a man, um, and and and go tell Teharka the stop fucking with the NOI.

SPEAKER_00 32:50

No, no, brother, you didn't hear it. The brother, the same brother who said to Kevin Ali, uh uh stop fucking with the Moorish community is the same brother or whoever it is, it could be a sister, who knows? Uh the same person told the brother who's a Moor to stop fucking with the nation Islam. You see, that same person, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:23

That's that's a co-into pro he so he's talking to the Moors and to the nation, right?

SPEAKER_00 33:27

He's telling the Moore, he's telling the Moors stop fucking with the NOI. He's telling the NOI stop fucking with the Moors.

SPEAKER_05 33:34

All right, so here's the challenge I have for both factions, right? Being that we know the history, we're intelligent, you study these high sciences, high knowledge. Quit living in your ego and being stuck by the principles, all these false tenants that your false interpretation of your of your of your teachers whatsoever and meet up to kill all that this divisiveness. So you don't be a victim of Cointel Pro. I challenge anybody from those groups to call each other and speak out in public. No phone calls, let's meet up, let's let's let's coordinate a date. We can meet up a place in a place in time that's safe, and we make it happen. Man, rats I'm not doing no phone games with nobody.

SPEAKER_02 34:16

Yeah, rats is scared of light, so is roaches. Yeah, the lights come on a run, B.

SPEAKER_05 34:21

Exactly. So see me in public.

SPEAKER_00 34:24

So look, look, look. You know, um, let's talk about COINTELPRO. Let's go into it. Mike, what's what do you know about COINTELPRO?

SPEAKER_05 34:34

Um, the exact thing that's the brother Sheikh said, you know, from 56 to 71, they they monitored people like Dr. King, the Black Panther Party, that um the Communist Party in America, the native, yeah, even the Puerto Ricans. Yeah, the young lords, young lords, yeah. Yeah, they were on them heavy, and we know um Jay Edgar Hoover was um uh Jaygar Hoover was like we know from what we heard he was the cross dresser.

SPEAKER_02 35:00

Yeah, he was a cross dresser, yeah. No question. Definitely, definitely a cross dresser. Also, he was he was a mulatto.

SPEAKER_05 35:07

Yep, he was. So that's what happened. That's what happened with them. And you know, they had these programs, it later trickled down to what happened with Malcolm when they had the boss organization that was surveilling Malcolm, and they were intercepting Malcolm's letter for Elijah and vice versa, whatever the case may be. And again, we're different from them. We're in the age of information, but let's remove the fact of the age of information. If these guys were not stuck in their feelings, they could have decided to meet up and handle business as men. That's where it goes wrong. And this is why you gotta really look at the teachings. I don't know if you if you're familiar with what they do in the in a in a mass chair when brothers stand next to each other, they understand the symbology of that, not to let air get in between us. You know, you're close to me, we will communicate.

SPEAKER_02 35:56

Shoulder to toe, shoulder to shoulder, the whole nine.

SPEAKER_05 35:58

Exactly. Just like other places, if those who know who are with the craft, what that means when we could band together. Nothing comes between us.

SPEAKER_02 36:06

That's right.

SPEAKER_05 36:07

If Ron and I have a disagreement, whatsoever the case may be, and there's many times you call him, he's like, Yo, bro, we gotta meet up. Sure, no problem, we meet up. You know what?

SPEAKER_00 36:14

Because we have because if we got checks and balances, like I got somebody that'll tell me, yo, you bugging. Yeah, like like like when I posted a video, I posted a video, right? The way you responded to the video, I was like, all right, the brother may not like this, so I'ma just take it down. You get what I'm saying? Like, yeah, so you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm you may say something, or somebody that I'm I'm tight with, an older brother. I always got older people that I can I could reach out to, you know, shake Shake Denim L is one of them. I can go, hey brother, yo, this is crazy, but I can just he's somebody I could talk to over the phone and just just air it out. And I really and I really appreciate that. So I'm always I'm always uh what you say, get counsel from older people to check me. There's there's there's people out here, I guess, they don't have people to check them. So but but see what we're trying to what we're what we're thinking is that these people live by the same moral fabric that we live by, and that's just not it, bro. It's just that's just not it. So, you know, um before we cut out, man, like I just want y'all to just build on COINTELPRO real quick. Um, whatever else you brothers can add on about COINTELPRO, that'll be peace.

SPEAKER_02 37:33

Okay, I'll add on some things, you know. COINTELPRO was found to be a very controversial thing because a lot of times it violated constitutional rights, man. Things that people could constitutionally do, you know what I'm saying? Like

What COINTELPRO Actually Did

SPEAKER_02 37:45

protesting and things of that nature, which is guaranteed by the First Amendment, the right to protest and freedom of religion and all those things. You know what I'm saying? You know, they would violate that, man. They targeted lawful political activity, violated constitutional rights. They did a lot of they did a lot of stuff, man. Operated with with limited oversight. In other words, they operated, you know, where nobody was watching over them. They didn't Cohen Telpro didn't really have to report to anybody. No, there was no systems of checks and balances, and like the brother said, he mentioned some of the major organizations that they targeted at that time. Martin Luther King, he's 100% correct. That just the whole civil rights movement, period, including Stokely, Carmichael, and a couple of other people, the American Indian movement, anti-war student movements as well.

SPEAKER_05 38:33

Yeah, I even think they got into the was it the uh correct if I'm wrong, even of Nation of Gods on Earth at one point.

SPEAKER_02 38:39

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because there was they were they were they were they were they were all over the BPP in the nation of Islam, and then the father bounced, what was it, 65? Yeah, no, no, no, no. 60 65, right? Yeah, 65.

SPEAKER_00 38:53

When he died, or he went to Madawan.

SPEAKER_02 38:55

No, when he went to no, when he when he left the nation of Islam, it was in 64. Oh, when he when he when he left the nation of Islam, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:01

I can't say 65 because 64 is when you know the five percent nation came about. Um I forgot I for I forgot that history.

SPEAKER_02 39:11

Yeah, it's gotta be like 64 then. If if the five percent nation, it's gotta be like 63, 64 then. But the point is, is that when he left the organization and took those took those lessons into the streets, that created a whole nother cultural moment, a whole nother cultural moment from the auspices of us right here on these shores. When you mentioned FBA indigenous religion or makeup or whatever, that was another aspect of it again. You see what I'm saying? So the father became a leader that Cohen Telpo didn't give us, so they had to get rid of him, too. Of course, because he had the power over the youth. Anybody that can control the youth will get they they will get rid of you.

SPEAKER_05 39:54

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 39:55

Anybody that can influence the youth, they will get rid of you.

SPEAKER_05 39:59

You want to hear something crazy about that? And this is why our people get so caught up in conspiracy theories. Again, I'm gonna use it. The father should have never been taken out. There's no way you could come to my community and and and take me out, execute the same thing with the god the god corrected, God corrected it was 1963.

SPEAKER_00 40:18

Peace, God, thank you, brother.

SPEAKER_05 40:20

And that's what happened. This is why people are afraid to take the forefront, they rather do entertainment and talk foolishness. Because if you go, if you come out there too raw and real, as Malcolm or the father was doing, and you're talking that talk, you're not part of the program, they'll take you out. But again, it's your own community. I'ma I'm gonna say it again. You niggas out there are fucking cowards. I'm sorry. You let them come in the community and take out your own people, you won't do nothing to defend them, you won't burn a building, throw a rock, but let a team win a sport event. Y'all go out there and do whatever.

SPEAKER_02 40:55

This is what you would do. Yeah, you would film.

SPEAKER_05 40:58

I'm you niggas is cowards. I'm sorry. You just go over there and sound nice.

SPEAKER_00 41:03

But we don't we don't have no protection as a people.

SPEAKER_05 41:06

No, we don't.

SPEAKER_02 41:07

No, we don't, brother. Brother, we never had protection as a people, but yet we're still here. It is the resilience of us, it's our resilience, man. That's what that's what the that's what coin for me. That's what cointopro was all really all about was trying to kill the spirit of our people, man. And anything that was gonna be counterculture to what the American system was trying to lay down at that time, you know what I mean? And Coin Topro means counterintelligence program to counter the intelligence, right? With counter tactics, and these tactics were dirty, you know what I mean? Very, very dirty. I mean, I mean, I mean, damn man, I mean, the way they killed Fred Hampton was ridiculous. First of all, how'd he get in his house?

SPEAKER_05 41:51

Right while he was sleeping.

SPEAKER_02 41:54

How they get in his house, somebody gave them black men, of course, somebody gave them the blueprints to get in the and the key to get in the door.

SPEAKER_05 42:02

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 42:03

You see what I'm saying? This is why my circle is like like this.

SPEAKER_05 42:10

But it comes to show you again, it's a white mind, but a black man. So, black men, are you really that intelligent? No, you just I'm I know we might get flagged for this. You just no, no, no, we ain't trying to get flagged. No, we're trying to get flagged, but you're just another dumb, a dumb, a dumb. That's all you are. You sell your own brother out. You probably sold him out for a sandwich for three for a thousand dollars. You're a coward, no respect whatsoever.

SPEAKER_02 42:35

Tariq is right, Tariq is 100% correct. WE B DABAR was one of the means. Boole, all boulet was like that. All of them cats is spies.

SPEAKER_00 42:47

So it uh, thank you, brother Tariq, for the five bucks, man. Really appreciate you, man. You really helped us. Uh, look up the Black Spot Network 1917. Way back. WE B Du Bois offered to spy on us from what I never knew that.

SPEAKER_02 43:05

What he called Marcus Garvey a little black ape, I remember that that needs to go back to Jamaica or some shit. Yeah, I mean, W.E.B. Du Bois was was he he was he was one of them boys, man. Boom, a Philip Randolph, too. You know what I'm saying? It was a lot of sellouts, but the thing about W.E.B. Du Bois, at least by the end of his life, he was in Aqua Ghana. I don't know if he went to Ghana to die there because of the guilt, but he did say Garvey was right all along. When he got older, he was like, Garvey was right, I was wrong all along. Garvey was right, Garvey was right, and he died at Aqua Ghana.

SPEAKER_05 43:45

That's what I'm saying. You're no different. These these these conscious people in this country's community, whether you're aging or not, I don't respect you.

SPEAKER_00 43:52

But let me ask you this do you think it has something to do with uh not being like not having an upbringing like? uh uh um quote unquote black power so to speak pan-Africanist kind of beginning no i think it's jealousy and ego I think it's just I think it's just I think it's also I think it's psychosis attached to it.

SPEAKER_02 44:17

See somebody said something earlier in this dialogue about unity right us not being able to get together. My thing is this we will never be able to get together as long as we have religious affiliations and titles attached to us see as ego he he's a Jehovah's Witness right and I'm such and such I'm not fucking with him he's a Hebrew and I'm a Christian I'm not messing with him so we allow affiliations and religious thoughts or schools of thinking create this divisive approach. Now why do we allow that because we don't have an authentic knowledge of self authentically but that's what I'm saying the Pan African see what I what I mean authentically I mean not from just the lessons but do you know how your capillaries and your arteries work do you know how the inner makeup of you work your physiology you know say how your brain all of that that's a true knowledge of oneself not just quoting philosophy and words and parakeet and shit it's actually do you know you have you read your book brother because you are a book have you opened up you and read you no many haven't they read outside of themselves they look for the external source to get an answer when they are the fucking answer man so that ego that wicked character that's who they are that's who they are that is their makeup that's their make that's their natural in that's their natural inclivity that's who they are when a person reveals to you who they are true when they take that mask off and really show you believe them probably running around here with pierced nipples and all that get out of here B bro wouldn't be surprised I know I know brothers that's supposed to be tough and they got pierced tongues Cisco ton the thumb thumb okay weird real weird weirdos running around but the psychosis is the psychosis man and if I was y'all I would just stay ready you know I'm saying because you I know you are you're always ready but I think that right that that that's just tactics tactics because if that was really what it was somebody would have got a visit of course of course you know I'm saying somebody somebody would have got a visit and let me tell you I got that powder for you to hit you in your face if you know remember I'm Haitian fuck around turning into a goat he messing with me yo bro man I got some brothers man over in Haiti man good brothers these are my these are my these are my um brothers of the craft and um they already know yeah yeah yeah yeah they heavy B they heavy they they want us to come over man they're trying to get us to come over there I had an idea for the brother right but you know you know I ain't even gonna say I'm not even gonna say it online I'm not I'm not we'll talk about that I'll share it with you though because I think I think it's a dope I think it's something real dope that and it can benefit Haiti as well.

SPEAKER_05 47:40

Of course man but even there down in Haiti people always they as as we had a brother on here spoke about that Hassan we romanticized the history of the independence right there was still internal fighting that caused us to fall because our people man I don't care where you put them have an issue we can't work together. No you can say it's tribalism whatever but when it was when that white man came to snatch your ugly black ass from Africa and other countries got involved and I use the word ugly because that means how you thinking they formed treaties to prevent themselves from fighting to work on your dumb black ass.

SPEAKER_00 48:20

Right so again is the black is the white man the problem the devil of is you niggas oh about to get us I'm sorry yo but uh you know this this is uh you know I can never imagine in a hundred years like I'm I'm I'm I'm coming into this like I'm gonna work for the people I want to do what I need to do for the people and then dealing with all of this this is why people leave the community like brothers like Hakeem Bay where's Hakeem

Unity, Ego, And Real Knowledge

SPEAKER_00 48:55

Bay bro I've been looking for Hakeem Bay for 20 years man who knows I don't know where he's at man as I've been saying this online i um I was the secretary for the temple he opened up in Harlem uh years ago like early 2000s right and uh there was so much about him opening up a temple under Millie ill and all of that it was like and he was doing it right and he was doing it right and and and uh we had to be on point like security like it it could have gone down I'm gonna tell you something I'm gonna bro you know you know I've been in the Mars world for a while myself and um I'm pretty well known and I got a lot of enemies in the Mars world you know I'm saying a lot of them but and I and I'm always by myself and I travel and I go to places and I don't see none of these none of them I show up in places I'm I'm I don't see none of them you know I'm saying um it's not that I'm being um boisterous or trying to challenge anyone I'm just a man going where I want to go that's all I'm just a man going where I want to go man I ain't got no intentions to harm anybody but you cross my path in um in a way that's maladaptive in a way that could be harmful then we might have some problems but other than that I'm not looking for problems but if you want it you know and I I want to clarify that too before somebody come on here and say oh but it's proximity crimes no it's not proximity crimes I I negate that I should not be on point and cautious amongst my own people but unfortunately because how you think we don't have immunity because you because you're operating on a lower frequency lack of emotional intelligence lack discipline as Ron said you're not eating the right foods not drinking enough water not getting enough rest you're emotional I gotta be on point around you I should do that with the other side but obviously I don't have those problems and I want to say this is cool I want to say this I say what I say about whatever and then I'm done and I keep it moving yeah that's you should that's it I'm not going back and forth on the internet that I'm not doing that that's gonna take that's gonna take care of itself because see what people tend to what people tend to forget when they're in their ego especially in public in public places in public venues is that there's an audience watching that's what they tend to forget there's an audience watching and the audience and the audience is able to decipher and to deduct what they need to deduct like they do with other situations and what they do of course they're like the FBI themselves. Yeah of course they are and they know the dickhead when they see the dickhead even when the dickhead is doesn't think he's the dickhead or she's the dickhead when they're the dickhead because they think they're being intelligent and smart at the moment you know I'm saying but you know there's an audience watching exactly exactly and unfortunate people tune in for drama that's the crazy part I don't get it come and show you your I don't know what goes on in our personal lives man but if you like the watch 31 people on a live with no but just we didn't even put shake l uh shake deniml's name in the in the pod but people heard the drama oh let's tune in let's see what's going on what's going on we're looking for entertainment oh you know what I'm saying i'm gonna start i'm gonna start doing the umar johnson thing saying it three times there is no drama on nyp listen again there is no drama on nyp listen again there's no drama on nyp we this is the last video we do on this anything i'm not even gonna address nothing else that's it that's it that's it done i'm done with it but i and again i'm gonna say this i do have i'm gonna tell you this too i never erase a text ever never peace of the conscious community but get it together man enough with the nonsense we don't need any more debates all right if these teachings were real i don't want to say that but the fuck i'm gonna say it if you're that near and dear about your teachings as the gods say show improvement i don't want to just keep showing improving about you knowing this and that let's start building things for the children you get what i'm saying let's make let's let's let's make our mark in the world and i ain't talking about the mark in the world with entertainment and and sports like that let's do something else yeah showing improvement is action is it's it's an action it's a verb right i want to know what you know what with all these people with uh platforms and organizations i mean uh when are you ever going out into the to to to the community and you you're doing anything like i i don't i haven't seen anything i haven't seen much i mean um i've seen like a more uh before go out there and you know i you know go into parades and you know she got a temple that like so i see that going on you know at least i can i could give i could give certain people respect at least they're doing something well we have a full pantry we have a full pantry um i'm i'm the director of a community center um that's owned by a woman named dr mary noson um who gets no financial who gets no federal state can county community money period she everything is ran out of her own pocket she had this center for over 20 years we do a back to school i'm I'm the director i'm the executive director we do a back to school program we gave away 26 000 backpacks last year um we we do a we do a we do a full pantry every monday up at the center um yeah so we we we have an after school program as well um we also meet also we have where where women pardon me where families where fathers and mothers can meet and bring their children so they can have safe space for you know parent parented meetings or whatever unsupervised meetings and so on and so forth so they come to a to a you know to a safe space or whatever so we got a couple things going on man and but about i'm trying to implement a ged program as well nice dope that's what i'm talking about now uh mike and i we did something some years back uh we we wanna we wanna put something up again uh we did uh uh we were giving out food in the bronx and uh uh and things like that and years back i had a program i hope my whole program for uh the kids in the community martial arts we had uh computer classes nice all kinds of stuff so but now in these days and times i'm just trying to figure out the best way to go about doing what we did in the past because that was a hard job brother it was that was a hard job 2000 plus families and you know it felt good doing that you know yeah i know it did people hope you know because it's immediate it's a me for for those who are doing it like when you brothers do that that's an immediate gratification it's instant gratification because you're seeing the results instantly you ain't waiting for it you you you your happiness you're proud you're proud and and you're happy that you're able to assist somebody and you're watching it in real time as it's happening right you know I'm saying so that feeling is a very powerful feeling you know I'm saying when you're getting instant gratification because a lot of times see that's what these cats are seeking too they they're looking for the validation and the gratification of others they play these games when you don't have knowledge of yourself or you're not you're not living in it correctly you you you can be other than yourself because you attempt to carry the traits and actions of others you get jealous of others and then you want to kind of be like this very thing that you are jealous of that's why you're jealous talk about it and your ego get in the way and so on and so forth man yeah I mean I've seen it all my life bro all my life and you know I'm I'm a very peaceful person I don't bother nobody man and people hate me man at least they hate me they hate themselves that's all talk about it I'll tell you quick all I can be is me I can't be anybody else because everybody else is taken so I'm gonna kill this chicken swarm B we need to eat some chicken swarming man

Community Programs And Closing Updates

SPEAKER_00 57:51

yo man uh on that note uh brother shake denim ill this was the first time you got back on the platform in a while definitely uh we we definitely want you back up here more often okay uh glad to see you me too bad Mikey Fever this was our first podcast together in a while uh just before we cut out um I just want to say we're doing less lives now okay okay with a lot of the stuff we do is gonna be pre-recorded uh moving forward you probably get one or two lives a week and the rest of the videos are gonna come out uh over the weekend like Saturday Sunday Monday those pre-recorded Saturday Sunday Monday would pretty much be the schedule we might do some flashback videos um um you know on on uh either Thursday or Friday so we might be we might do like a throwback Thursday and a flashback friday so you're gonna get some old videos just to set up the weekend and Monday and then and then uh we got a live pretty much on Tuesday you know Wednesday the live might be Wednesday maybe it might be Tuesday but just letting you know how we're moving moving forward thanks to everybody in the chat thanks to everybody watching even COINTELPRO uh watching quintel yeah he there whoever he is he he or she or they here watching i hope i hope i hope they're enjoying the show while you enjoying the show you're doing your little tactics somebody's banging your wife out you know i'm saying doing a little natural wife situation bro or your boyfriend yeah or your boyfriend yeah yeah you are maybe a guy yeah man never know you know those those Anunnakis you hoping to come on earth to come rescue you are not coming but your wife will be coming i promise you that yo well on on that note man thank y'all again for coming out this evening the co-hosts and the and brother she denim ill thank you brother brother Robert and we are out