How We Heal with Ryan Pink

Introduction to Psychedelic-Assisted Psychotherapy (with co-host Rachael Spyker)

Ryan Pink Season 1 Episode 41

This episode is a deep dive into the controversial psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy with Corban and today’s co-host, Rachel Spyker. They discuss the importance of having this conversation, the profoundly transformative effects of this medicines when used specifically and intentionally, with care and caution. 

These therapies can help reduce rigid thoughts, support us in moving into primary consciousness states,  help us reflect on our relational templates, and aid us in becoming aware of our primary conscious awareness

They touch on the dangers of this therapy when doing it with a practitioner who isn’t well-trained, when a strong therapeutic relationship isn’t established, and when the treatment is not well-suited to the client’s needs and condition

Corban and Rachel define set and setting when preparing for psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy, and the importance of establishing them as the foundation for this therapy. They talk about two models of associated therapy, one being the Passive Sitter model, the other Psychedelic Somatic Intersectional Psychotherapy, and how the second model is based in part around learning safety around saying “no.”

Proper after-care in phychadelic-assisted phychotherapy is discussed, and the importance of stabilization. They touch on real risks involved in this type of therapy and that research and training has not yet progressed to help people with certain conditions. 

Finally, they explore healing and connection, the type of connections we need to heal depending on wounding, and summarize with the statement: “good psychedelic assisted psychotherapy is good therapy, plus the right psychedelic plus the right dose.”



Rachael Spyker has a Masters in Psychology and is a Registered Clinical Counselor in Kelowna, BC, Canada. She works with a variety of trauma-informed therapeutic modalities including, but not limited to, Interpersonal Neurobiology, Internal Family Systems, Accelerated Experiential Dynamic Psychotherapy (AEDP), and EMDR. She also runs women's retreats, group ceremonies, workshops and events, and is the host of the Deconstruction Podcast.



You can learn more about Rachael on her website here , follower her on Instagram by searching for @rachaelspyker, or listen to her Deconstruction podcast here



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